2%

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>2%
2%

[Anonymous No.]

2%JISANJI

[Anonymous No.]

Man what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

Explain

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>>49016021
Is this the numbers thread?

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>>49016136
FalsEyeD just leaked that Nijis only receive 2% of the profits made from their merch, everything else goes to Riku's yacht fund

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016136
False just said Niji members only get 1-3% of merch sale cuts. People knew it was the lowest cut because people like Pomu said it was the worst way to support the talent but didn't think it was that low. Niji merch is all garbage anyway, you shouldn't be buying it in the first place

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>>49016080
Kek

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>>49016210
To be fair.
It's actually 1-3%, so it depends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016223
>Niji merch is all garbage anyway, you shouldn't be buying it in the first place
Reminder

[Anonymous No.]

ENTERTAINMENT FACTORY

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>>49016080
Nice boat.

[Anonymous No.]

Why the fuck would they get any more than that? It's not like they designed or made the merch or own the character themselves? Also this isn't news, the livers have said before to buy voice packs (which they actually write and make themselves) if you want to give them the most cut.

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>>49016210
>>49016223
Releasing wave after wave makes sense now

[Anonymous No.]

oof

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>>49016313
You tell'em, sister!
#CutandJumpForVex

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>>49016313
How's that boot taste? Why wouldn't you get more profit from a character you personally promote for your company? The merch doesn't sell if you're not a popular talent

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016021
2% what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016417
Then don't buy it? There's no evidence that Anycolor pockets the 97%, they probably pay royalties to their artists and a lot of that also goes to production costs. It would be shitty if they took more than 50% of the extra since that's what they get for streamlabs/superchats, but there's no evidence to suggest otherwise.

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>>49016313
Thing is, it was assumed that at least buying merch would help support them to some extent. Yes they don't own the character, but at the same time they were also responsible for the company growing and making money to begin with.
She said merch is the least effect way of supporting them, but she also didn't say they only made a 2% cut from it. That's fucking embarrassing when the fans gladly point to how well the company is doing whenever things look bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy fuck, that's not a cut, that's just an insult.

[Anonymous No.]

nijisanji more like 243 2%

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016313
Anycolor could shoot your oshi in the face and nijisisters would say
>why the fuck shouldn't they do that?

[Anonymous No.]

1 week ago
>Nijisanji gives a good portion of merch sales to the livers! They are good!
Now
>Umm so fucking what if they only get 2%? They should be glad to get anything at all, chud! Nijisanji dindu nuffin!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016313
now I wonder what's their cut from voicepack sales

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016707 (me)
apparently it's 50%, seems low all things considered

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016692
Well, yeah. You see, when you sign niji contract (in blood, obviously), you become their slave.

[Anonymous No.]

Drain their wallet for debut funds to reduce costs, don't pay a salary and take all of the merch profit. So that's how ACCELERATE is so profitable, sasuga Tazumi-san...

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>>49016584
>it was assumed that at least buying merch would help support them to some extent
3% is "some extent", not a very good one but it's more than nothing, especially if it sells well. Doesn't contradict what she said and doesn't make a difference if you haven't been just buying VP like the rest of us
>>49016707
I've heard people say 50% or 90%, no way to know. It's better than streamlabs apparently though according to Pomu and the other livers who've talked about this, which it a 50/50 split.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016488
See >>49016223.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016021
Why are people surprised? CN sweatshops always only give their workers the bare minimum to afford suicide nets outside their windows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016021
2%342%

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I know I'm going to get called bootlicker, nijishill, nijinigger, nijifag, etc.
But why is 2% a problem for work they don't put anything into?
Voice packs are entirely seperate from Merch and they get a 50% split on those vs Merch that's created with zero input from the vtuber like those acrylic stands.

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>>49016223
lmao that’s rough if true, what are the dramanigger’s sources on it though? Not giving that nigger a view

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>>49016820
I dont consider 3% to be "some extent". Especially if they've been in the company for at least as long like Pomu. 10%, that's something.
It's not like the company puts effort into the merch to make them unique, it's pretty much the same mass produced factory junk with expensive shipping. The only hard work is getting their mama to make some themed art and that's it.

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>>49016996
Because that trash sells of the back of their name and their streaming activities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016996
kys bootlicker

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>>49017113
Maybe I'm thinking of it wrong but I always thought it was something along the lines of "Vtuber puts X effort into this product so they get X cut"
>voice pack has a lot of effort put in from the talent because it takes time so they take a 50% cut
>merch takes 2 seconds or less to approve an image of a keychain so they take 2% of this while 98% of production comes from manufacturing
Again maybe I'm just being naive from a manufacturing / product perspective.

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>>49017264
"Pay no attention to marketing costs"

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>>49016763
IIRC hololive don't take cut from voice pack....

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017264
vtuber merch would be worthless without the person behind it building the brand/demand for said merch.

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>>49017356
What marketing costs? They pretty much have the talents announce that they have new merch on sale, maybe do a tweet for it.

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>>49016996
It's cookie cutter trash that sells a character they promote as their job. It would not sell without the liver basically doing marketing for it. They deserve more than that, even if they don't have input on it. Sure, maybe not a massive cut but 2% is fucking embarrassing

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>>49016996
>But why is 2% a problem for work they don't put anything into
But they do - their images, that is. People buy those merchs because they like the livers.
If, for example, Mysta was less popular, there’d be fewer people buying his merchs. Putting the value of those efforts at only 1-3% of the whole thing is insulting - and I hope that’s 1-3% *before* the other non-Niji parties (suppliers, producers, etc,) take their cuts. Otherwise, it’s just pitiful.

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>>49017264
You are monetising an audience that is there for them. They are buying keychains and acrylic tat that is basically worthless without that connection.
It would be stupid to claim they should get all the money, but a 2% cut is absurd.

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>>49017356
>Hey guys, I have merch on sale
Marketing costs done.
>>49017393
I mean, I guess? How would you put monetary value in "existing" though?
Maybe if you're Vox you can demand more because you have a chink fujo legion following?

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>>49016996
They don’t exactly have the option of providing anything towards the standardized merch, so it seems that part is moot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016021
SHUT UP sage sage sage

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>>49016021
Damn bro if 1000 people buy your merch in Nijisanji you only get like $20

I'd get a lot more money doing nothing

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>>49017264
Selen tried to self fund her own custom merch (like Holo) and got rejected multiple times.

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>>49017264
I doubt they're paying much of anything at all on manufacturing costs, considering there likely aren't any additional costs to the manufacturer due to Nijisanji's products being images stamped on molds already in production.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017561
>announcing sage
Enjoy your 3 day vacation

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017009
Only people that'd know would be members, so good luck getting names. Supposedly multiple sources and I wouldn't be surprised at one being Sayu.

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>>49017579
That's if the merch cost a buck per person which it obviously doesn't.

But even if people were dropping $100 for full sets, 1k buyers would be $2,000 profit for the chuuba. Which sounds OK until you realize Blackcolor kept $98,000. I'd say like, 10% would have sounded reasonably good/fair.

[Anonymous No.]

How much doe HL girls get?

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>>49017595
Well, we probably know why at this point. Its because Anycolor would take a smaller cut from customized merch than their current model. They'd not only have to probably do more work, they might even be forced to share the profits more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017595
I'd pay for pic related as a poster.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijidogs actually trying to defend this, how low can you get?

[Anonymous No.]

Target acquired, Mythic bros.

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>>49016313
Do you buy vtuber merch just because you like the character design absent of the person giving it life?

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>>49017790
No idea. But judging from how hard holo's sell merch it's probably a lot more than 3%. I suspect somewhere close to 30%

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017859
Nijisisters oshi is Anykara

[Anonymous No.]

Why would anyone apply for Niji after all this stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017733
>1000 people paying $100 for a Niji merch
You living in fairytale land or something, wake up my guy

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>>49017790
>>49017892
All we know is that the times people have asked what is the best way to support them is merch and voice packs get mentioned, and we know SCs are at least 50/50.

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>>49017790
I don’t think there is any solid figure. All we know is that they get a decent cut on company funded merchs. If it’s talent-funded merch (i.e: Lamy’s wine), they get full cut or close to that (after other parties get their parts, of course)

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>>49017945
They wouldn't if they're a girl.
For guys it's still the best corpo. Holostars? Rumao
For girls, it's kinda evident when they picked up 3 jap ESL's instead of western women. (Though I guess Sayu is a whitewashed Jap)

[Anonymous No.]

I see nijisisters are split on
>there's no way it's real
and
>if it's real, they deserve to get paid peanuts
Anycolor can do no wrong for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017733
To be fair, it’s not just AnyColor and their talents. I expect manufacturers to take a big cut themselves too
(Unless the 1-3% figure was after that)

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017945
>>49018041 (me)
To further add, until there's a better corpo for males (maybe Mythic? who tf knows), you're almost always going to default to niji or indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017733
The most realistic average would be $15
Look at how cheap their merch are

[Anonymous No.]

Surely they get a higher cut whenever they sell unique merch. Does EN just not do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018041
I'd argue that at this point it's not even worth for guys.

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>>49017945
Never underestimate how many indies or starving 2views would apply to any company that would be a step up from their current situation, no matter how black it is. WACTOR wouldnt be around otherwise.
But the thing is that only 2views would apply to NijiEN at this point, and mostly to get close to their oshis. If you're in Zaion's position, if you're a solid 3-4 view indie, the company has genuinely nothing to offer you. Its probably why we never saw anything of the GAMERS wave yet, it probably got canned because they couldn't find any pros that would be remotely willing to apply to their rules.

[Anonymous No.]

how much do holos get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016080
Not gonna lie, this yacht must have pretty nice 3D studio inside, much better then PS1-tier graphic I see on the left side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018213
They keep getting rejected. Hololive has the same issue I've heard, like with Gura's daki.

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>>49018213
>Does EN just not do that?
Selen tried at some point but got turned down for some reason. Other livers from JP and exID/KR have made custom merch on booth but I don't know how much they make from it, probably more but who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

i am out of the loop, what the fuck is this 2% shit? who said it?

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>>49016340
I mean, it always made sense. The fact that that’s their strategy was always an indicator that vtubers cost less for Anycolor than they do for Cover *somehow*.
But I guess this sheds more light on exactly how. I only just found out right now by clicking on this very thread. It sure explains why they don’t put any effort into their merch. The vtuber gets such a small share that cutting costs matter much more than increasing sales. Like, jfc…

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>>49018128
That would be $300 from 1k sales then... which is very optimistic as was said, maybe like Vox and Luca and Ike could get that and not a lot else.

This all sounds like small potatoes until you realize Anycolor brags about their massive revenue on their quarterly charts primarily being from merch sales. So somehow these little keychains and backpack pins and shit are what make them most of their money. Man they must have fucking 0 overhead on these, must cost them like 2 cents per and they sell them $5 each and still make a killing.

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>>49016210
Holy fucking NIJIBASED, that's a true Sigma male move

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018359
Bro, I don't think they would be making 1k. Not a lot of them have 1000 viewers, so much fewer dedicated paypigs when you total it all out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016210
Fucking based.

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>>49016210
>>49016223
and what was his source for that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018359
>Anycolor brags about their massive revenue on their quarterly charts primarily being from merch sale
Well, yeah, if they keep all of the profit for themselves, that makes sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018488
The loudest voice in his head

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>>49018213
The most they get is anniversary merch, which allows them some input on the designs. Stuff completely unique to the liver like Selen wanted (iirc she wanted an Ember plush among other things) gets turned down

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018314
>Hololive has the same issue I've heard, like with Gura's daki.
A mildly sexual loli daki getting rejected is a completely different thing for any and all custom merchandise being rejected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018337
Mysta made an offhand statement that it's 1%, Pomu said their cut is very low and that buying merch is the worst way to support her, they probably have some input from Zaion too

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018304
All of it, but they also have to fund it themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018304
Probably at least 30%. Holos always say merch is a very good way to support them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018231
There's no where else to go except being an indie. Unless you wanna suddenly say homostars is good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016210
Hory shit!
Still better rates than genshit gacha.
I guess Riku isn't as greedy as I thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018567
She also gets game permissions, collab permissions, and a lot of other things rejected. A loli daki would not be any different at all. Nijis experience rejections almost on a daily basis. That's what you get for being with black companies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018488
>let me reveal the niji livers who gave me confidential information so doxsisters can go after them for making their black company look bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018304
From generic merch? Probably not much more than Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016579
>they probably pay royalties to their artists and a lot of that also goes to production costs.
1-3% of PROFITS anon, not sales.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018688
It simply seems like a better work environment than Niji, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016313
now now dont reason with these catalog fags pomie... you know theyre a bit sick to the head

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018746
>t. nijisister

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018688
Yes, unironically, homostars is better than niji, unless you are a sleazy faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016996
Because the talent is basically the avatar itself, they make it move, they make it talk, they are the ones who cultivated the fans that buy the merch. They gave life to the avatar. 50/50 is the only reasonable cut here, nothing less, probably should be more if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018719
>A loli daki would not be any different at all.
Except it is. You talk as if this is Gura personally getting slighted by management but Marine took half a year to get a daki out because it had to go through several revision to be considered safe enough for the brand.
Selling a loli daki to a western market is hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018748
Man that's fucking grim. If their margins are bad and they eked a profit then the livers must get couch change and some leftover mcdonald's or something by the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016996
DONT REASON WITH THESE FAGGOTS WHEN WILL YOU LEARN THEY JUST LIKE TO SHITPOST ALL THEY BCAUSE THEY DONT HAVE ANY HOBBIES EXPECT BE PSEUDO MANAGERSS AAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018719
I love how niji's are trying to equate their shit company with holo now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018098
Chink trashmills have to compete with eachother on price, so their cut won't be massive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018304
My mother's lover works in Cover's financial department. He told it was 15%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018567
Nah, it's exactly the same thing. If she had been with Phase, Prism or any of the smaller companies, they wouldn't have had control freak of a management whose only interest is to leech money off of their talents.

>>49018896
Nope, not really. Gura got immediately approved after a long exhausting battle with them. Heck Gura even has a promotion video of her NAKED which no one in Nijisanji would do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018806
Why ask a question if you're just going to reject any answer you don't like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016210
Nijisanji is good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016996
It only kinda flies because the merch is so fucking cheap and janky it's like "who cares lol" but if it were something nice going around like figs, nendos etc the livers might look at the figs of themselves on their desk and think "y'know, the motivator for people to buy these things is me.. but I get nothing out of it.. so why should I try..."

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016692
The few fags still sticking it out with the nijigirls are basically buck-broken slaves, shades of their former selves clinging to the glory days of Lazulight/Obsydia and pretending nothing has changed. You can't get through to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016210
THEY TREATED PROFIT LIKE FUCKING GACHA RATE, LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019027
yeah Good at being a black company that is. I pity the streamers who are getting leeched on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018995
Then why was Marine rejected? Isn't she in the racist "shill club" or whatever and should always get her way? Apparently her daki wasn't a long and exhausting battle but Gura's was. It's all always so hard for EN, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018770
Actual retard, the merch sells because of what the Liver has done with the character/model to build a rep and community that will buy the shitty overpriced merch, without them no one would buy their overpriced shit when they can get better for less with normal anime merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018963
You seem rather upset, and provided nothing to the conversation while announcing your fury. Odd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018488
leech dramaniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018892
Roru, rumao even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019009
Anon, you just made up the answer. That's why it was rejected. And it runs contrary to all information people know about their merch sales. Holos prefer fans buying merch over superchats so it's a better profit than that.

[Anonymous No.]

The livers are salaried. The 2% is a pretty nice bonus actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019124
>Then why was Marine rejected
You're literally asking why the sky is blue retard. If you're hired by black companies of course they're always shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019109
I still wonder if Anycolor is like a Yakuza front or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018951
That's the thing. Niji's profits are very good. This is just them screwing over their talents. Unlike holo who reinvest most of their profits into concerts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018731
so no credible source
can't wait his next stream when he reveal that elira and her clique were behind the holocaust and zaion was one of the survivors from the camps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019188
>salary
Ahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019185
So the answer you don't like is made up but but all the other answers which contradict each other are real because you find them acceptable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019144
damn thats like the /#/ thread, do you go there often?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019188
Niji livers do not get a salary. Zaion confirmed that in her doc. Only holo and idol do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019262
>no credible source

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016210
>2% of the profits

so, not 2% of the total of each sale?

how much does NIJI profit from it?

assuming the price the public pays for an item is 3x the cost of production for it, shipping is on them, and they pay to advertise these products, they are likely making somewhere between 20%-35% profit.

2% of that means that for every 1k USD they recieve from payments, 200-350 USD is profit, and 4-7 USD goes to the talent.

even 1%-3% of profit is still bad, it means it could be as high as 10.5 USD per 1k, and AS LOW AS 2 USD. that's literally 0.2% for every 1k

if this is the case, it's so much worse...

[Anonymous No.]

It's literally information that Deron released four years ago...

[Anonymous No.]

>but muh sales that dont affect me
Rent free you retarded holoniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019420
Holy reddit spacing, go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019262
Lol nijisisters are complete retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019306
I'm not even the anon you were talking to I'm just pointing out the obvious. You're deep in the double think right now. Even after all of the people who left Hololive on bad terms haven't come out with details like this when it was obvious they were salty about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019426
My rent has to be free so I can afford it on the Nijisanji salary

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019426
Keep seething sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019188
This is a disgusting bootlicker copium
They're not even paid and ANYCOLOR forces their talents to pay for their own models, rigging, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019407
did he provide it ?
just because he's preaching to the choir doesn't make his fanfiction true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018304
Watson said that the best way to support her is through merch, and since we know they get 50/50 from SCs from Coco and Moona, merch should be more or equal to that. Lamy also said that she funds her own merch production, so if she funds her own merch, there's no way in hell Cover would take 97% of the revenue. The rrat is this is only exclusive to merch with the talent's input, like birthdays, anniversaries, 3Ds, and special occasions merch, not generic ones like figures (nendos, figma, etc).

To the contrary, Pomu mentioned that the best way to support a Niji is through voice packs, streamlabs, SCs, then merch, further supporting this FalseEyed reveal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019426
they don't affect me but they sure do affect your livers' bank account kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019518
You're not pointing out anything. Nobody has every said anything about GENERIC merch. Why would the talents get 100% of profits from merch they might not even promote or plan themselves?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019541
>source : zaion "i lie as easily as i breathe" lanza

[Anonymous No.]

So who is the rat that is leaking shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019541
>talents to pay for their own models, rigging,
Which usually goes up to tens of thousands of dollars, and 3 view streamers barely get anything to live by.

[Anonymous No.]

>had to pay for their own debuts
>no salary
>get 1% of merch
Bro why would you ever join niji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019596
>since we know they get 50/50 from SCs from Coco and Moona
That's Cover's cut after Youtube's? So only 25% before taxes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019650
>"my source for the accusation: my lies" -Niji Shill 2023

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019687
>rigging
>tens of thousands of dollars
lol no it's fucking not
You're being lied to by whoever is asking for that much money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019727
Be a starving 2view

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019626
>Why would the talents get 100% of profits from merch they might not even promote or plan themselves?
I never even wrote that so you're obviously foaming at the mouth with delusion right now. As this anon poiints out their pay cuts have already been exposed (including by people who left) >>49019596 so what information are you deciding that Holos somehow make approximately the same as 3% of profits on their merch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019760
No they get 50%. 25% to cover and 25% to youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019727
>had to pay for their own debuts
Who doesn't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019727
being part of the most popular and lovable Vtuber group in the world

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019687
All of Nijisanji rigging is done by a in-house rigger
Its also why not a single person in Nijisanji has good rigging

[Anonymous No.]

Huh, that's pretty fast breaking news

https://youtu.be/u2fGW5Lt9jw

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019832
Holo and most other vtuber groups give you a budget to use. That's who.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019188
IIRC the dog had to ask people for help when she needed food.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019650
You misspelled niji management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019802
Bruh, stop bullshitting. Youtube always was 50%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019426
Anon, this is straight up black company behavior. I love some of the talents there, but I dont want to support that horrid company.

>>49019626
>Why would the talents get 100% of profits from merch they might not even promote or plan themselves?
People arent asking for 100% of the profits to go to the talents, it's a business company and they need to pay for overhead costs, that much is perfectly understandable.
What people don't like is the idea that their oshi only gets a pittance, regardless of how popular they are or how long they've been with the company. They only buy merch because they do so in hopes that it supports their oshi, without it they'd just be well polished but incredibly generic character designs. That the oshi barely benefits but is constantly forced to support it, that's just frustrating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019671
I look forward to the niji struggle sessions while they try to figure it out

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019897
Wrong. Seethe bootlicker.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019875
Nice. Now be glad to provide a link of proof, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017544
>I mean, I guess? How would you put monetary value in "existing" though?
It's not hard to put monetary value on spending dozens of hours every week promoting the merch and other company products. It's not like the livers get a salary from the company for that time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49018304
From what Yagoo implied, probably most of the net revenue >>46160521
For generic merch like acrylic stands and such, no idea, but it's obvious most of it would go to Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016996
Becasue their fans only have so much money they can spend on vtubers. If they think talents get a good cut of the sales then they'll buy merch instead of donating since they get something solid while supporting their oshi. Learning the truth will be a blow to some fans who thought they were helping the talent rather than the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019867
So even despite record breaking profits after going public, they still do the same scummy shit. Fucking incredible.

[Anonymous No.]

>Pomu quit her actual job for this

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019947
I accept your concession.

[Anonymous No.]

Blah blah blah all corpos do the same shit anyways. That’s what they signed up for

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020021
/b/omu should just go back to whoring herself as it makes her a lot more money

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020040
You've seethed, you've coped. Now you can dilate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019566
Mysta said he only got 1% from merch before, too. Is it just a coincidence, then?
(And the dramafag has no reason to joke around like Mysta might have according to Nijifags)

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020062
proof that cover does this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020102
And you just projected everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020062
Proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019801
Another anon said they get all of it, retard.
>their pay cuts have already been exposed
No, not for generic merch they have not.
When Cover puts holo merch into chips, crackers or whatever the fuck, do you really believe they all somehow get over 50% from those sales?
Do you actually think they when they sell a huge selection of acrylic keychains that took zero input from the talent, they just hand over a huge cut of the profits to the talent?

>>49019907
>People arent asking for 100% of the profits to go to the talents
Anon is claiming that they get 100%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020062
As far as I know, only Nijisanji restrict their talents to getting a measly 2% for their profits

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019596
True but even with other stuff that cover sells (like the plushies), holo talents still like to acknowledge and thank their fans for their purchases. Meanwhile you got nijiJPs like Kuhuza joking that maybe niji will give him some of the profits of his merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020164
I've given you good information. You are simply coping because your favorite company treats it's talents like garbage. So you now want to equate it to hololive who treat their talents extremely well and give them much bigger cuts in comparison.
if you actually cared about the niji talent you supported you would be fighting for bigger cuts of the profits so more of the money you send would get into their pockets.
But instead you're bootlicking the scum company who are literally stealing money from them.
Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016210
>leaked
Where did he got the sources?
Any receipts?
Does he has screenshots of the earnings compared to the merch sold from niji streamers' account?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020062
Ready to debut?
This is what we get our talents for debut:

Tailor made VTuber model with leading industry rigging.
GOXLR Mini + SM7B studio microphone including extra accessories.
$3000 to spend on stream elements (overlays, backgrounds, etc)
Cover song production.
Promotional art of your model.
Video games of your choice.
https://idol-company.com/audition/

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020135
only thing >we know about cover is they take 50% of memberships and superchats and a smaller percentage of merchandise. the tempus boys always repeat that buying merch is the best way to support them so they get a much larger cut than niji's 2%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019995
>For generic merch like acrylic stands and such, no idea, but it's obvious most of it would go to Cover.
t. nijisister
The talents get most of the profits.

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijis barely shill their merchs because they get 1-2%
>Holos shill their merch harder because that's what earn them the most money with QR code, slides during streams and regular shilling.
I believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020062
>whataboutism
ah the good 'ol nijispecial

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016210
nijisweatshop lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020188
You keep using this "generic merch" term but don't seem to understand how different Hololive merch is and continue to have no proof there's a difference between their special merch and the stuff they release for events like concerts.
Also you should quote the 'anon' you're claiming is saying they get 100% of merch because that just sounds like (You).

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019995
>>49018304
Depends on how much Cover put into the merch. Cover encourages the talents to fund their own merch its why holos release Dakis, handbags and all kinds of things.

Several talents have talked about how they get the best cut from merch sales.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017710
Why is /vt/ so anal about calling jannies

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020188
Going back that comment chain it didn't seem like the anon said they get 100% on "generic merch". It's possible that the Holos at least would get more than just any Niji would, going by what we've seen of Cover compared to Anycolor.

[Anonymous No.]

Just a quick reminder that for almost all streamers and youtubers, merch is treated as a loss leader. Merch is more about giving back to the fanbase and encouraging them to stick around.
Companies like Cover or even LinusTechTips are exceptions to this as they've put in the work to bring much of the production in house, or at least build better relationships with the factories and suppliers.

Don't even know why I bother trying to make sense out in the catalog though, considering most of you are underaged Pacific Islanders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019426
How's that boot taste? you filthy fucking animal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020447
pewdiepie makes money through merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019897
Youtube's cut is 30%. The remaining 70% is split in half between Cover and the talent, so 35%. Don't know the source but I've often heard some of the biggest talents like Pekora negotiated for a bigger cut, so probably up to 40%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016210
If Nijisani's 'talent' were actually talented, maybe they'd get paid more. Perfectly fair to only give them that much, given all they do is play video games and make sex jokes.
If they don't like it, they can go independent.

[Anonymous No.]

interns are working overtime today huh
and you just KNOW they're not getting paid

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019566
i think Pomu has said merch is the least effective way of supporting them, never revealed the percentage. This is in stark contrast to Hololive merchs that the talents always push for, customize and has direct hand in creating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020317
Cute deflection attempt, sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020378
>You keep using this "generic merch" term
That's what my original answer was about, you fucking donkey.
>don't seem to understand how different Hololive merch is
I know exactly how different it is, retard. Niji also sells similar merch, sometimes.
>continue to have no proof there's a difference between their special merch and the stuff they release for events like concerts.
What is "stuff they release for events like concerts" and how it is not special merch?
>Also you should quote the 'anon' you're claiming is saying they get 100% of merch because that just sounds like (You).
Here you go, retard >>49018643
They get all of the profits, but this answer is not made up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020537
There is a cult in that company or some yakuza shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020602
Mio even asks her fans to not superchat but buy merch instead. If it was niji she'd be taking an indefinite holiday for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020276
>good information
You've pulled youtube fees part out of your ass. It never been 25% for anyone. It seems like your are copying that your favorite company treats it's talents even worse than a garbage, so you started to make up some imaginary numbers to make it look like they treat their talents well. If you actually cared about the holo talent you supported, you wouldn't lie about numbers and simply donated or bought some merch. But instead you revealed yourself as a pathetic little liar.
Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020615
1. There is no "generic merch" in hololive.
2. The talents always get most of the profits.
Now stop falseflagging, nijisistah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020447
>Just a quick reminder that for almost all streamers and youtubers, merch is treated as a loss leader. Merch is more about giving back to the fanbase and encouraging them to stick around.
Merch is the number #1 in revenue for literally every single company and individual in existence because you can overprice the shit out of it you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020447
>merch is treated as a loss leader. Merch is more about giving back to the fanbase and encouraging them to stick around.
That isn't the case for Nijisanji, they make plenty of income through their cheap mass-produced merch. If they really wanted to encourage fans to stick around, they probably would put out more unique stuff, while also giving a bigger cut to their talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020683
Not reading all that bootlicker. It's amazing you're sucking niji's dick and not fighting for your oshi who is being robbed. Disgusting fucking cunt.
Oh I accept your concession by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016263
As if this shit makes it any bettet

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019596
>50/50 SC
wrong, its 30% to holos 30% to youtube 40% to cover this was what according to coco and mori though the latter before the gaijin tax

[Anonymous No.]

No receipts from him and you guys treat it like a big revelation. Sometimes I worried about the IQ of the average posters here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020728
I accept your concession x2

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020770
Keep dilating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020617
>What is "stuff they release for events like concerts" and how it is not special merch?
The talents have birthday/anniversary merch, Mori has her own albums, merch from branding like deals with video game companies, food companies and then there's collective merch for events like concerts which they all shill together. You still haven't defined what your generic merch is. You seem to be implying it's the acrylic stand shit which is the only merch Nijis seemingly have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020447
You are actually retarded, merchandise for any company makes the most amount of money. See Disney or the Pokemon Company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49017579
And then you get taxed on that 20 dollars. RIP Nijigirls

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020751
>everyone but the boot I lick is lying
The NijiCN concert, which was already pre-recorded and was a online only event with no live audience was cancelled for covid

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020804
Try saying it without crying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020734
it's 30/30/30 between youtube/telent/cover and the last 10% goes into a group fund that is split between all talents, according to Coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020810
>You seem to be implying it's the acrylic stand shit which is the only merch Nijis seemingly have.
Yes that's exactly what I'm """impyling""", you fucking idiot. Do you think you scored some epic own right now by finally comprehending what generic merch is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020887
Try saying that without 2%ing lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020751
>just rat out your source so they get punished by the company and hard doxxed by sisters
this is like, the most basic principle of journalism
NEVER REVEAL YOUR SOURCES

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016021
Oh scary, doesn't stop me to buy Elira cushion upcoming soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019426
The rent has to be free, you couldn't afford it with that 2% cut

[Anonymous No.]

>Holo doesn’t have generic merch
AHAHAHA!! How you liking your random gacha buttons merch for the shitty En concert lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020919
>2%ing
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020919
Try saying it without realizing that those 2% are still equal to more money than your whores earn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020447
That is cope to a degree. You're not wrong but the problem is Vtubers are very merchandiseable. The fact Hololive has become a merch machine is actually an indictment of Nijisanji's model who does very little in terms of merch outside acrylic stands. To a degree the Nijisanji merch was doing so well in part because there was a belief it helped talents more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021004
Tako cushion was a great idea and I don't even like Ina.
Suisei's doll is cute, Watame's slippers, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021058
nijitroon going full mask off lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021058
That shit gon get taxed bro, they be in the negative

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020910
Anon, you're going rabid about poorly explaining something which is almost non-existent in the company you're insisting has the same contract pay ratios so it's a meaningless comparison and you can't grasp that you still have provided 0 proof. You're just a retard having a fit on the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021004
Now zoom out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020751
Sue and go through discovery if you want source

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021004
At least hololive doesn't steal merch

[Anonymous No.]

Nijiniggers ITT should be gassed IRL. filthy subhumans stealing oxygen

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020751
just look at the timing nijisis it shouldn't be hard to guess who
bet you and your kind already working to dox her even more in nyfco or farms

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020922
You can provide receipts without ratting people out. How do you think people do journalism. Stop mixing journalist with dramatubers. Dramatubers are lower than paparazi. At least Paparazis got the sources by their own effort lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021122
Holonigger instantly jumps conclusions. What else is new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021255
TOTAL NIJJER DEATH

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020447
You retarded ape that's completely untrue and even fleshtubers sell merch BECAUSE it makes them profit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021004
That isn't generic though, it's specific to Mumei. Retard

[Anonymous No.]

Why are nijisisters trying so hard to defend their company screwing over their talents? Or is it all interns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020884
>moving the goalpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021142
>something which is almost non-existent in the company
They sell shitloads of it but it's not sold on the hololive store. I understand how you might think it's nonexistent if you only watch EN though.
>you still have provided 0 proof
You have also provided zero proof.
>You're just a retard having a fit on the internet.
You're the one rambling about "sisters" lying about your favorite vtuber company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020751
While he didn't seem to pull out concrete numbers, if his source is to be believed (and its easier to trust his source more than it is to trust Anykara or their talents), it really lines up with what Pomu said, Mysta and Kuzuha's apparent "jokes", its hard not to believe it especially with how the company just rapid fire churns merch. They even said that Anycolor IDs (which are used for buying merch on the official store and using NIJISANJI FAN CLUB) were up 94%, so obviously they're making good fucking money.
You'd think with all the money they make, they could give some more to their talents without worrying about whether or not they'll still be well off,

>>49021278
>Jumps to conclusions
>Calling Hololive talents "whores"
Yeah, I wonder why someone would react harshly when a Nijifan/employee/talent decides to call a rival agency a bunch of whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021362
Bruh, everyone hates holofaggots, they are worse than chinks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020689
>>49020823
A great example is the NFL. A majority of their profits come from TV deals, while a smaller percentage comes from licensing and merchandise.
https://archive.is/M6HH5
>So it's safe to say more than half of the league's $15 billion in annual revenue comes from the TV deals

>>49021095
This is very true though. Nijisanjii needs to do more with merchandising their most marketable vtubers, while they are still relevant. Cover has done very well with striking while they're hot, and producing fan-favorite merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021004
Don't play this game, spoiler you will lose and very badly

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021362
>its easier to trust his source more than it is to trust Anykara or their talents
>Pomu said, Mysta and Kuzuha's apparent "jokes"
So can you trust them or not???

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021424
>everyone hates holofaggots
and yet it's the nijinigs always crying in their thread about how mean everyone is to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021364
Anon I don't need to provide proof. Nijisanji pays 2-3% of profit to the talent, you need to prove Hololive has the same cut because that's your claim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016210
Ok, that's so fucking low. Not even worth the work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021004
wrong pic? also gacha buttons merch are standard for concerts it's not exclusively holo thing or even vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021276
>How do you think people do journalism
They get paid by governments, companies and other powers but they never reveal /those/ sources nigger
Look at how Vice, Buzzfeed and many other propagandists going bankrupt these days considering Soros' money went dry

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021464
Damn, holo keychain looks like a cheap turd compared to these.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021449
>This is very true though. Nijisanjii needs to do more with merchandising their most marketable vtubers, while they are still relevant. Cover has done very well with striking while they're hot, and producing fan-favorite merch.
Depends what the goal is. Nijisanji have been very successful in profiting for Nijisanji, hence their excellent recent financial results. Better than Cover, who spend too much time of custom merch and let the talent take too much of the money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021523
>I don't need to provide proof.
Yes you do.
>because that's your claim.
You're lying right now because I never claimed that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016210
That's it? That's the "earth shattering" news you retards been spazzing out over?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021464
Oh look holofag, the same Button Merch!! Except ours aren’t fucking gacha shit!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021559
>Our cowshit is better than your cheap turd
Damn you really got us with that one

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021112
Its really unfortunate that hololive has the highest quality stuff despite their talents being absolutely unwatchable so I dont want any of it
Every stream is just a non stop woman moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021630
>a timeloop of something that we already knew from Mysta about his debut merch and Kuzuha 3 years ago.
Man I'm looking at newfags aren't I?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021522
>and yet it's the nijinigs always crying in their thread about how mean everyone is to them
and yet holofaggots always crying in ALL catalog threads about how mean everyone is to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021336
It has to be interns or the talents themselves being forced to work overdrive, it would explain why all of them aren't streaming right now. Basically running damage control on not just Zaion basically having a fresh new start that was well received, but also after being exposed by FalseEye'd that they barely pay talents.

>>49021480
A talent that says it on stream? No, you really can't because they're more than likely pressured by management not to talk about anything that could remotely go against their will. In the past they also had Slack notifs that would go off, so they're even less trustworthy.
Off the record though? It's more than likely they'll spill the truth. And again, there's nothing wrong with that. They want change, they want the company to do better for those working there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021620
>>49018746
>From generic merch? Probably not much more than Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021640
Shifting the narrative from Birthday merch vs Birthday merch

to Birthday merch vs concert merch

Fucking pathetic lmao

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Aww! The nijiniggers are now trying to defend their oshi, the company!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UtRnGn5hc

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021615
Their success so far can be attributes to
>Taking 98% of merch
>Not paying for debuts
No shit they're doing well

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021714
>n-n-no u

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021424
Niji still have to suck chinese cocks, Holo burned all bridges. kek Nijinigger so funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021549
They have actual footage of things they reveal, you absolute mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021732
Keep seething, anything you shit on Niji for I’ll turn it around and shit your Hololive since they do the same shit. Difference is that the majority of our Livers arent women on their periods 24/7

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021657
Damn, this board should really be age-restricted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021720
There was never any claim that it's the same cut. Can you explain how they give the right talent their over 50% profit from something sold at random?

[Anonymous No.]

Gee Selen, how come your corpo lets you have 2%?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021336
Their oshi is the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021791
You mean footage that are easily falsifiable and fake news most of the time? Sure thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021362
The reason it lined up with their claim is because he took the things we posted here and run it like his own story. Dramatubers will always reveal their receipts if they have any because it is what that brings viewers and attention. FalseEyeD has none.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021812
Livers dont have genders, it is an organ used to filter your blood

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021776
Wow, holofaggots really do love talking about sucking cocks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021640
that's nothing new, you're supposed to trade with your fellow concert goer to get the one you want (and socialize, concerts are actually social event)

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016021
i dont watch hololive or niji but this is retarded. 2% is perfectly reasonable because it's from the full price not the profit margin. tell me the profit margin but assuming it's 10% then the talent gets 20% (10-30%) of the actual profits. the margin could be less or could be more, this number says nothing by itself

[Anonymous No.]

I recall Marine and some others having mentioned that they can send requests to Cover for them to pay some of the costs, but that they front the majority themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021630
Newfags are weird

[Anonymous No.]

Okay but let's not talk about how holos have to BUY the fucking stock for merch I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021859
So "not much more" is where you're going to pack in that that's not the same as saying their cuts are comparable or negligibly different? And again, that wasn't my claim, that was someone else you were talking to. Get a grip. Stop desperately defending a company exploiting their employees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021945
Organs don't filter blood. They are big music instruments in churches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021812
Yeah instead they're Mean Girls and Desperate House Wives on steroids kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021968
Yeah because they're pointing and laughing at Nijis who are deepthroating cocks while getting fucked in the ass with the 2% garbage they're trying to copium with

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021712
>A talent that says it on stream? No, you really can't
All the people quoted said those things on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021992
>not the first post from this IP

[Anonymous No.]

This "yab" is fucking lame
The Zaion doc was fucking lame
Where's the good stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022080
it's literally my first post in this thread are you retarded or baiting me

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021992
>i dont watch hololive or niji but this is retarded. 2% is perfectly reasonable because it's from the full price not the profit margin.
Anon it's 2% from the profits

[Anonymous No.]

>>49019124
Gura's daki wasn't simply rejected. Management outright lied to her about the legality of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49016313
>Why the fuck would they get any more than that?
Because they are the reason the merch sells.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022121
then that's nonsensically low, that would be equivalent to 0%

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021812
I don't doubt you'll try, and you'll continue to look like a furious retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022148
They are the reason their debut merch sells? The merch created literally as they debut when there's absolutely no time to establish a fanbase?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022118
you see that funny little number I circled there?
that shows up when a new IP posts
notice what's missing from yours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022050
Anon... you are sitting in front of a monitor on a image-board. Nobody is sucking cocks around you (maybe except for your parents/friends).

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022148
sounds like commie shit
Did they manufacture the merch?
Did they design it?
Did they put up the capital to pay for inventory?

Live in the real world kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022179
Yes, Mysta already said it's basically that

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022219
retard you refreshed or something maybe thread is moving fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022233
Mysta actually said it was 1% so they get a whole 1% more!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022221
>Nobody is sucking cocks
Nijis sure are

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021812
>anything you shit on Niji for I’ll turn it around and shit your Hololive since they do the same shit.
Hololive barely had any talents leave. In fact, they seem actually HAPPY to be there. Compare that to Nijisanji and the amount of graduations and terminations they had, its almost like the talents only just tolerate it until they cant take it anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022260
yeah alright then

[Anonymous No.]

jesus christ, this thread is full of nijidrones. keep licking riku's boot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022223
They could but they aren't allowed to, otherwise Niji wouldn't get all the money

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022283
that's DOUBLE the profits! possibly even TRIPLE! Kneel to nijisanji's generosity!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022179
Kuzuha says it's 0% in 2019. It's actually an improvement.

https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1130702535147188224?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022337
i just came in here to see wtf is 2% because i love numbers. my oshi gets 10% profits from her dakis so i assumed it was 2% of profits but if its from whole price that IS dumb. idc either way lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022033
>that wasn't my claim
Yes it was. In >>49019801 you pointed to >>49019596 and said those are their pay cuts ("we know they get 50/50 from SCs from Coco and Moona, merch should be more or equal to tha").
Are you now saying that you don't actually believe that they get a 50% cut off their merch?
>Stop desperately defending a company exploiting their employees.
When have I done anything like that? Literally all I ever said was that hololive likely doesn't give their talents massive cuts off generic merch they do zero work to make happen.
Explain how the talents get 50% cut from this >>49021640

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022386
>up to 2% in 4 years
Holy kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022404
>idc either way lmao
nijidrone coping and seething

hows that boot taste like

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022291
Are all holokeks live in their own cock-sucking delusions or is that just you living through some mental trauma? Because that's just simply beyond being a faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022337
>believing a dramatuber
I have a bridge to sell you, and it only cost you 2% of Elon's annual earning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022510
Ok I'll believe the talents it's actually just 1% of profits kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022500
I'm not even a holokek lmao
If you're in a shitty black company corpo, then you're a cocksucker

Enjoy those 2% pennies I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>49021742
>Accelerate
>Oh you need money to have a proper debut? Go deep in red, it will come back eventually with our renowned brand
>You need to pay your debts? Sell merch, it's effective way to earn money.
>Merch sold. Company collects 98%
>Oh you think your 2% cut on merch is too little? Well fuck you, after what we've done to you from the debut, using our esteemed brand and even releasing merch you are still complaining?
>You want out. Fuck you bitch, we will run a smear campaign so that you'll be radioactive for the rest of your miserable life alone with no one there to support you.
>Accelerate
Vicious

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022491
literally never watched a niji and never will i think its shit and all big corpos are shit in fact. my argument is simple
2% of whole price = good deal
2% of profits only = talents getting robbed
idk which it is and idc

[Anonymous No.]

>>49020367
Nijisweatshop, that's a good one. But does that mean the mean girls routine can be forgiven due to workplace environment?

[Anonymous No.]

they earn 120% of each sale

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022569
>I'm not even a holokek lmao
Your web history says otherwise, lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022546
Exactly. It is just 1%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49022432
>hololive likely doesn't give their talents massive cuts off generic merch
probably not, but it's probably more than 2% let's be real.
Many of the hololive girls make massive incomes off their merch, it's their primary source of income. In fact people like Noel and Matsuri said that less than 10% of their income is superchat, the majority is merch. They make such a crazy income on merch it's insane. They don't even bother to read superchats is such a tiny portion of their income, it's not even worth the time of their day.

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>>49022573
A fair number is what they agree to in the contract. Simple as. They want a bigger cut they can go indie.

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>>49022653
>Your web history
Schizophrenia is a mental illness anon. Take your meds

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>>49022571
With this and girls bailing from Vshojo and talking shit about contracts I think we can officially say the real winners are the girls who got into Hololive. I hope they still get treated well even if management in EN is a complete shitshow.

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>>49022500
Do you retards think everyone in this board is a holokek? Hey, newsflash, a lot of us are small corpo and indie chads. Look at how many active small corpo generals there are these days. We laugh at and shit on both your black corpos. Enjoy your dumb slapfight to the bottom as you point fingers at each other.

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>>49022684
fair enough, you know what i meant tho

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>>49022684
Which what everyone should fucking do since it's the indie age now for the West

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>'News' widely known 3-4 years ago

Newfags...

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>>49022500
>durr you must be either a Holobrony or a Nijibootlicker
Kill yourself black company bootlicker

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>>49022283
Damn, Riku is a kind man.

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god i love shitposting
but yeah if talents are saying "dont buy merch it doesnt support talents" that is a perverse incentive and that is why the talents do need a good cut

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>>49022678
>Many of the hololive girls make massive incomes off their merch, it's their primary source of income.
Yes, off of the sets they sell a minimum of two times a year.

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>>49022432
I don't need to prove the other anon's claim, I referenced him as someone posting a discrete detail (something you're not doing and which was my initial response to why the other anon brushed you off). And there's a near consensus in this thread of people not denying those numbers. I'm not going to dig through Youtube clips but Coco, Mori, Ame and Ina from immediate memory have all gone slightly into these details.
You're the only person in this thread who is really denying the difference and trying to treat the number as comparable.

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All those viewers from Nijisanji are better off supporting indies instead. Don't give another cent to thieves.

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>>49022762
>Do you retards think everyone in this board is a holokek?
No, but it's very simple to check:
>Post looks like it's written by someone below the age of 10 => It's 100% a holokek.

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>>49022966
last thing i want is nijifags moving on to indies.

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>>49022949
Why can't you explain how the talents get a 50% cut from this >>49021640?

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>>49022995
your continued seething just makes you look sad.

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>>49023026
Anon, have mercy and end the talents' suffering

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how is so much evil concentrated on one company...
ceo, fans, support, talents(bullying, backstabbing, company-towing, hypocritical) are all so awful

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>>49022995 (me)
Here is a perfect example of such a post:
>>49023059

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>>49023037
Anon you keep deflecting for me to give random price cuts or explanations of other peoples posts instead of just explaining yours...

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>>49018488

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>>49023026
>nijifags moving on to indies.
And that's a good thing. Say hello to /wvt/ for me.

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>>49023151
Why can't you explain it?
I have explained my reasoning several times but you are too mad to read it. I don't need to prove anything because all I've posted is speculation while you claim you have concrete proof and numbers. Now explain how the talents get 50% cut from merch sold at random.

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>>49018304
Iirc, there was a chart few weeks ago that showed exactly how much Cover gives from youtube income, from merch income and from sponsorship income. I don't recall exact numbers, but I think they were around 30-40%

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>>49018041
In Holostars at least you don't have to sell your soul, still get support from the company and can do whatever you want. The numbers are Russian roulette depending on how strong your "he's just like me fr fr" or "i can fix him" energy is

... + Its very existence pisses /vt/ off, I see that as the best part of the deal

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>>49021464
>>49021640
lets do a proper birthday merch vs birthday merch comparison

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>>49023279
>Why can't you explain it?
Why can't I explain other people's statements? This is like asking me to explain an account from someone else seeing a hippopotamus and expecting me to know more about their experience than what they've told me (what you can read in the thread).
>I have explained my reasoning several times but you are too mad to read it.
Anon your "explanation" is just repeating over and over again that you couldn't believe Hololive pays a better cut on keychains than Nijisanji, you're not going into your rational about the production process if it's not the same process as their birthday merch, etc. Does Nijisanji even give their talents the opportunity to have custom merch where they would have a more favorable cut? Do you have a source that they get paid a smaller share for other merch sales like acrylic stands? This is your burden of proof.

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>>49023813
>Why can't I explain other people's statements?
Because you keep quoting them you fucking idiot. So you do not actually believe that they get a 50% cut then? Why do you keep arguing about something you have no actual opinion on?
>Does Nijisanji even give their talents the opportunity to have custom merch where they would have a more favorable cut?
Why do I need to answer this? I'm not a Nijisanji representative. I don't even watch them.
>Do you have a source that they get paid a smaller share for other merch sales like acrylic stands?
I never claimed anything. It's all speculation based on common sense. The talents did no work to put that merch out and often don't even promote it. Sometimes they don't even know when it's on sale. There's no reason why they would get an equal cut.
>This is your burden of proof.
I never claimed anything. I don't need proof.

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>>49016021
hey, that's already better than vshoujo's 0%

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>>49023806
Chloe got a bunch of girls to buy collars?
Holy fuck, my knees can't handle it.

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>>49023683
Looking at it like this and comparing it to what I see here... It doesn't seem like a bad deal, the problem is having to put up with blue homo shit

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>>49024471
That "collar" is really small, it was intended to be more of a key chain, but a lot of keepers modified it to work as a collar, and there were some cute girls using her bracelet at the aquarium event too.

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>>49024239
Anon, you don't even understand what a claim is.
>From generic merch? Probably not much more than Niji.
That is a claim. The claim you need to prove.
And you're stringing together my posts with a bunch of random other anons combining statements about rates on Superchat revenue (which is the origin of the 50% which you're hung up on) and asserting I'm claiming that's the same as a variety of merch sales and promotions (something you can't quote directly on).
Gonna stop replying to you at this point.

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>>49021742
Short term gain. All those Yabs aren't just internet points. At some point enough bad reputation causes financial losses and trying to suppress it just delays the problem and makes it worse.

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>>49021615
>nip company accepts a reduced profit in order to support their employees and provide a better service for their customers
>chink company offers the absolute minimum support possible to their employees and does everything they can to fleece their customers
Do 2%sisters really?

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>>49024671
>That is a claim. The claim you need to prove.
That's not a claim, idiot. The word "probably" makes it speculation and not a claim.
So to finish things off, you don't actually have any idea about how much they make from merch since you clearly do not believe it's over 50% and you're really just arguing because you think you're sticking it to the "nijisisters" even though I only watch hololive.

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>>49020447
Spotted the Zoomer that's never seen Spaceballs before.

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>>49023806
Oof... this is damning? Nijishills have been real quiet since this post? To busy moving goal posts and deflecting with whataboutisim?

That's right nijinigs I know how you do it. Don't you have some indie to harass! You darn bitches. Your company is black. Oh no my poor multi million dollar company! I will save you and your honor!

You will never be as big as Gawr Gura, Pecora, Fubuki, Suisei, or any holo. Your numbers are used as a metric to determine how well indies are doing and how bad holos are doing. Anykara is a blight upon the vtubing landscape it is the epitome of low effort plastic trash. I cannot wait to here the cope when Hololive once again enters a market you failed in or discounted with low effort and beats you out... again. The only time I feel alive is when I am exposing Nijisanji as a black company I get a high because of how nasty and disgusting Anykara and it's fanbase have been, are, and will continue to be.

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>>49025500
Being completly honestly, even though I hate tue homos, if Cover released Homostars ID and somehow miraculously conquer the male ID market that Nijisanji gave up... That would be the ultimate humiliation

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>>49025865
An impossible goal, but by God that would truly be the ultimate humiliation kek

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>>49025500
Hololive IN and KR coming soon

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>>49016223
b-but /vt/ told me that the money is split equally between the company and talent

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>>49016285
Does anyone have the old /jp/ photo of the niji-branded ramen in the bargain bin of a conbini?

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It's up!
Lmao!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyynD83X-uI

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>>49026546
Let the world burn to ashes

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>Defending 2%
Nijibros really love the company more than the organs huh