Coco's retirement leak

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Narukami Leak TLDR
Posted at the same time when Coco started her stream.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3T57HYEvV4

>Taiwan incident happens
>Cover is blacklisted from China
>Cover has executives and shareholders that are chinese and do not like Coco, and wanted her gone
>From this point forward besides the harassment from the outside, there was also harassment from the inside

Examples:
>Cover puts restrictions over Coco, these restrictions were said at the time that they were made to "protect" her
>From now on Coco wasn't invited to big streams on the official channel, she could not do sponsored streams alone, ideas from her were shut down and requests to collab with HoloEN were denied
>The annoucement of her celebration goods for the 1mi subs was late
>Coco was not featured in the Hololive anime
>A particular episode was the one where the staff mistakenly gave mod powers to a chinese anti, who went on a rampage banning everyone in her chat

Result:
>After everything that happened, this broke Coco's heart
>And she decides to retire
>Management's goal was accomplished, and after all the mistreat Coco decided to leave on her own accord
>From this point, HoloEN collabs were accepted, everything Coco asked was given an OK
>Coco also became more active on her roomate's account, streaming more often there (bday stream yesterday)
>In the end, Cover did nothing to protect Coco, and in reality wanted her gone

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who

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rrat

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unbased

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>>4819356
black company

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Honestly those all sounds more like well educated guesses, any information and how the guy knows this?

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>>4819356
Liked and Subscribed!

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>harrasment bullying
If the rrats turns to be true i hope cover pulls off a gamebu

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>>4819356
SHUT HIM DOWN

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>>4819356
CHADkami strikes again!

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bad rrat, gtfo retard

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>>4819356
>Trusting Narukami
How is this board any better than jp again?

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We only post outrageous rrats here anon. Nobody cares about this plausible truth.

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>>4820203
narukami is kami

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>Cover has executives and shareholders that are chinese and do not like Coco
source?

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>>4820203
He uploaded this before Coco announced her graduation, he clearly knew she was going to graduate before hand

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>>4819356
>Coco was not featured in the Hololive anime
Nigga the dragon is front and center, this isn't even a good lie, you can literary go watch it right now.

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>>4819356
>Narukami
Fuck off, also , OGEY RRAT

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>>4819511
>>4819954
>>4820203
At the very least he was not wrong with anything hololive related. He is the reason Mel is still here to begin with.

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>>4819954
Narukami's motive is that he wants to destroy the vtuber trend. He hates chuubas with a passion. But he is smart because he knows just saying random shit online doesn't mean anything so he presents evidence with his claims. However, most of the time the evidence will be pretty vague or there will be one piece of evidence and he makes schizo rrats based off those. There are times where he will get news before everyone else but the actual details behind those things are filled in by him. So chances are these are educated guesses based on his experience with other companies and how they operate.

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>>4819954
Anonymous source and it will stay that way, but it's weird that he gave the news minutes before Coco herself.

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>>4820323
Because Coco had the template that's literally used for graduations...

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>>4820203
>if it's not Holos: "BASED NARUGOD, COPE FOREVER KEKS"
>if it's Holos:"Nooooooo, he's a liar and a collossal faggot! D-Don't believe his lies!"
The cope is real, hehehehe

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>>4820427
why?

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>>4819356
My personal rrat is that she was too crass for hololive and she was too much of a liability to their new idol agency image.

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>I stay positive
if you want to graduate, why you should stay positive?

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>>4819356
So, it's basically a compilation of good old rrats we used to see on /jp/ with some crap mixed in?

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>>4819356
I can believe it. Totally.

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Oh , its just narratives. Narukami, i am disappointed

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>>4820581
What do you mean why? What do you think would've happened with Mel if she kept quiet? Do you not know about her being stalked by her manager last year?

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bros... i beleeb it...

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>>4820321
The only reason why cover would have even thought of going into china was if they had an executive or shareholder who was Chinese and could help them get set up there. He's probably guessing, but it's something anyone should have been able to guess.

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>>4820501
It's not weird at all see >>4820512
Dude likely also had the video ready for months, updating it once in a while when something that could fuel his views came up, he saw the thumbnail and he published it

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>>4819356
>>>Cover has executives and shareholders that are chinese and do not like Coco, and wanted her gone

Fuck them

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>>4820547
干杯 ! ! !

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>>4820547
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>>4819887
WEEELLLL NOW
LOOKS LIKE THIS WE'VE GOT US AN ORIENTAL BUCK THAT NEEDS TO BE BROKEN

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>>4820337
Probably means hologra.

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>>4820748
i mean as, what he did? he leaked it?

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>>4820772
okay
so it comes from your ass

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>>4819356
>>Coco was not featured in the Hololive anime
Okay right away he's wrong. For one it's not an anime to begin with and for two, there's a dragon that looks identical to her dragon-form she's described.

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Can narukami become the CEO instead

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>>4820547
based

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This has to be real, right? The video was made beforehand, and it's extremely plausible seeing how Coco was upset at management.

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>>4820845
Yes. Cover only posted the apology letter and compromised with helping Mel after the video + backlash.

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Easily believable rrat, dangerous even

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>>4820949
It works too perfectly to not be real

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>>4819356
If Cover starts getting chinese sponsorships again within this year, you know for fact they sold Coco out. And Fubuki fucking flinched at the idea to actually go through with her pledge.

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>>4819356
>Management's goal was accomplished, and after all the mistreat Coco decided to leave on her own accord
>In the end, Cover did nothing to protect Coco, and in reality wanted her gone

Actually a really common Japanese practice for wage workers. I don't know the term, but they'll move employees that they hate into broom closets/mechanical rooms/generally any place that's insufferable to sit in for hours at a time and give them no work. They just sit there for hours at a time at desks that usually don't have computers or internet until they quit.

Sounds like the vtuber version of doing that. Want to keep being Coco? Well fine, enjoy being Coco alone. Fuck Cover.

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>>4819356
>Coco was not featured in the Hololive anime
... Okay...

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>>4821070
Pledge? What are you talking about?

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>>4821070
Is Fubuki going to leave now too? FUCK NO.

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>>4820512
>>4820779
There's no template you actual retards.

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>>4820337
It means hologra in one member stream she mentioned that they haven't call her to record a new episode in the last 8 months

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>>4821070
Yeah, I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt until Chinese sponsorships happen. And Fubuki's actions are also suspect but I don't want to think she was bought out either, particularly because unlike Aqua, her name is still mud in West Taiwan.

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>>4819356
>>Coco also became more active on her roomate's account, streaming more often there (bday stream yesterday)

What is her roommate account?

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>>4820547
>Ayy rmao ching chong nip nong

Easy with the capitalization, zhang.

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>>4819356
Can I get a link to her roomate's account? I want to at least support her there.

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>>4819356
>Hololive anime
Where is that?

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>>4819356
Go home narukami no one cares about your bullshit lies lol

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>>4821070
If Fubuki leaves, so will I.

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>>4821278
Then why would they put her in one of their biggest projects yet.

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>>4819356
Japanese Keemstar might be on to something here.

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>>4819356
the rratmaster is out of his hole today I see

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>>4819356
This seems more like an alternate interpretation for shit we already know rather than any new rrats desu. Narukami not at his best.

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>>4821084
This is, ironically, because Japanese labor laws are so strict. It's so hard to fire people that you must either resort to this kind of shenanigan, or create a literal cult inside your company where you only hire people who will do absolutely anything you tell them to.

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>>4821441
graduate soon

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>>4820203
Not only was his video out at the same time as Coco's, it was a premiered video. In other words IT WAS PRE-RECORDED

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>>4821441
That's a fake account, otherwise it would have a wrench next to it.

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>>4820547
>Pottawatomie massacre
Dude we all know that's just FOXBOXX

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>>4819356
No more easy money for that degenerate bitch
She was poison to hololive, always bringing western culture to it
I hope she go broke and has to shoot some JAVs

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>>4819356
> guy reads threads on 5ch
> get views from stupid EOPs
heh

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>>4820705
That's the point, she doesn't want it.

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>>4821070
Narukami's video makes too much sense. While it's hard to validate anything he says, the NARRATIVE actually fits perfectly. I can't trust Fubuki or Cover unless Yagoo himself performs haragiri on Coco's graduation stream. I'm not consuming any more Hololive content, and if Cover starts making Chinese moves, I'm turning full on Hololive anti.

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>>4821295
_ka_son on twitter

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>>4821330
I don't know what you're talking about, but I really like the easily searched channel "kson ONAIR," for no particular reason related to your question that might violate any rules

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>>4821288
What actions? What did Fubuki do?

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>>4821295
fuck off newfag

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>>4821330
Prove that you're not a chink first

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>>4821978
gate

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>>4821206
Fubuki said to trust her and if she leaves Hololive is because something bad actually happened there.

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>>4822086
No tengo una buena forma de probar que no onions un chinkchonk más allá de hablar español, pero al menos puedo decir que Coco aprendiendo mi lengua me alegraba el día. Lo estaba haciendo muy bien.

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>>4820203
I agree that Narukami bullshits a lot but for this scenario he probably knew what he was talking about since shit lines up well and the video was fucking fast

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>>4819356
>trusting japanese keemstar
lmfao

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>>4822256
friend....

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>>4820705
Reincarnating as a solo or with a new company.

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All those people that went "if Cover bends the knee to China I'll stop supporting them" "Coco graduating because of the China drama would be suicide"
I'm going to see them being all wrong, Coco will graduate, Cover will lick the Chinese boot, and nothing will happen.

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>>4819356
>Cover did nothing to protect Coco, and in reality wanted her gone
RIP in piss reddit dragon. You won't be missed.

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>>4821738
I already saw that shitty English in another thread, fuck off zhang

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>>4822522
>>4822545
end yourself zhang

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>>4821244
if the rrat is real, she better leave. If not, people would see her as two-faced bitch

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>>4819356
Fuck China.

Can't they have us nice things?

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Really conflicted between my hate of america, everything and everyone american; and my hate for china, everything and everyone chinese. Until now I reluctantly supported China because I hate redditors and redditor movements with every atom of my soul, but now the chinks are making my oshi sad and I fear I dont have enough hate inside of me to properly hate half the world population.
Please reply to this post so I can experience the seething hatred I had for you and your people when the chink branch graduated, thanks.

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Reminder: Narukami defended Aloe and Miko. It's not like he's just a dramatuber for nothing.

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>>4822462
I stopped buying blizzard projects after that hearthstone shit, if it comes to light that cover was courting china with this shit I'll drop hololive in a second. Even if it makes me sad

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>>4819887
Black companies in Japanese speak are much, much worse than this. At worst Cover is just incompetent.

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>>4822462
Don't care, already unsubbed from H*lolive and made a twitch account for VShoujo.

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>>4822600
Seethe lmao. China won. China's going to keep winning as long as they have the lion's share of the market. Seek acceptance. Or just keep seething.

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>>4822344
I agree. This scenario however because of how fast the video turnaround was I'm going to assume he does have a Cover source who knew what was going on and was pissed enough to go against any NDA to tell him what happened. Plus it all lines up

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>>4821404
because they probably had cut finished months ago

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>>4822671
Why not hate both america and china? They are both shit in their own way.

Good I'm EU fag. While not amazing, it is better than those two shitholes.

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>>4822545
>kanatan i just shot my first 10 men bukkake so i can keep living with you
Reddit dragon future

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>>4822844
He did bust the mel case too back when cover was denying that

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>>4822462
I mean
Hololive first boom was with the chinese until for some miracle the westies noticed Hololive as well and the true boom started.
They will definitely lose the EOP audience if they start working with China again but will win back their zhangs again.
The thing is EOP are more unity than Zhangs, so if Cover decides to focus on CCP's market again then the holos who got "saved" by the EOP saviorfags will definitely be the ones to lose there.

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Cover wanted Coco gone
1:21~ Cover's management/sponsors have contained Chinese which have hated Coco (as a American) from the very start of her debut, and some minors things that triggers their discontent. (Corrected by huji) Coco was actually WILLING to stream on BiliBili but they ignored her inquiry and she did not even know how to stream on it.


1:54 ~ the start of Patriotic Chinese' attack on Coco because Youtube statistic shown Taiwan as a country. Coco want to stream a apology video as soon as possible but it is STOPPED INTERANLLY by Cover because similar situations have happened before like Aqua and Pekora, which Cover have promised to teach their talents about sensitive political knowledge about China to prevent this happened again, therefore if Coco did apologize as soon as possible, Cover would look like they didnt' teach their talents and appease their Chinese sponsors/ management at all.
3:11 ~ Another evidence supporting Cover's attitude on appeasing their China counterparts, which promised to accept "One China policy"
3:58~ More evidence showing that Coco is being bullied and boycotted inside by Cover's management (Not Holomem, I think they are genuinely supporting Coco), so that Cover can appease the Chinese again and return to Bilibili. Evidence like being spammed in chat room without any help, forbidding any collaborations within Coco and HoloEN
4:36 ~ More evidence. Cover's website would celebrate their talents' 1million subscribers usually, but all of them have been posted on their website EXCEPT Coco. Not until some fans being skeptical about this, Cover finally post the celebration (after like, 2 months). Moreover, Coco have never been appeared in the official channel (those animation on Sunday) ever after.
5:08 ~ The most serious issue, which when Coco hand over the antis list for Cover to block, they "accidentally" (intentionally) set the list as moderators but not the blacklist, which caused many members from Coco's channel have been banned (remember that time Coco can't held anymore and kanata came to comfort her? this was the reason behind that)
6:05 ~ Reasons why they want to boycott Coco. They want Coco to be the one who voluntarily graduate so that Cover would look less guilty. Once Coco have graduated they can finally re-enter their Chinese market to gain their loss (like collabartion events with Chinese mobile games and streaming on Bililbili)

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>>4822737
If the allegations are true, and they seem credible, then Cover is 100% a black company.

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If Coco starts posting regularly rather than periodically on her roommate’s channel or reincarnates as another vtuber like Aloe then it probably lends credence to the idea she was passively pushed out. If she really decreases her overall online presence then it could be she’s burned out.

Also minor point given the overall issues but the only solid bridge we’ll have between western fans and the girls will be Kiara now, ugh not really a fan of hers.
Wonder if the Reddit will also decrease engagements without meme review, doubt someone will keep that format going.

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>>4822752
Based coomer chad.

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>>4822752
Melody is based

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>>4822671
>I hate redditors and redditor movements with every atom of my soul
You really need to think anon, China harassed a vtuber into leaving and may be coming after anyones oshi next, reddit just makes shitty memes.

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>>4822877
you have the cradle of civilization and you wanna import niggers for feels

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>>4822930
She's already revived her roommate channel anonymous

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>>4819356
Upvote

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>>4819356
Big if true.

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>>4822930
Anon
Aloe barely did something on her roommate account post graduation. And her streams are unarchived and unlisted.
Literally not the same situation

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>>4823006
>>4822902
>>4822688

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>>4822909
But which one’s truly got saved? From the top of my head Towa and Aki, but it’s not like they are booming right now either, it still pisses me off that Aki is only in front of Azki in subs and trailing Mel last I checked, I wish westies had focused long enough to push her into the jap radar again like they did with Towa.

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Fuck it, this rrat is entirely believable and Narukami's record with Holo gossip is decent. Fuck China and fuck Cover.

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>>4819356
Gotta profit while the corpse is still warm huh?

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>>4820705
She has an army of whiteknights willing to worship her. Each one of them are capable of shelling akasupas multiple times each on her roommate streams. However, this time, 100% of the money goes to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822688
What did Miko go through to need defending? Out of the loop on that drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822344
The last time he announced a graduation, with proof, and it came true
this time he didnt announce it 2 days before like he did last time, but he clearly knew it was coming because he already had the video made AND posted it when Coco's started

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823355
Fujos went after Miko and Marine because they riffed about a BL novel on a zatsudan stream, Holo fans fought back, Miko and Marine apologized and took a 3 day "break"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821836
Continue to support Haachama at least, since it's clear Cover is giving her the same treatment.

[Anonymous No.]

It's time, anons.
We must resurrect MacArthur by any means necessary and give him control of at least 40% of the US military budget.
It. Is. Time.

[Anonymous No.]

Already starting with the conspiracies huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821070
>>4821206
>>4821244
Have a tweet: https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1288748210760978432

And an official stream translation (turn on captions):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekHJb03tzQ4&t=3404s

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine being stupid enough to blame Cover or Coco for this. We all know whom is responsible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821479
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banishment_room this is what I think you are talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823131
She posted like a month ago?
She’s definitely not posting as she would if she were still in hololive, my point isn’t she’s ultra active and that Coco will become such.
But if Coco suddenly picks up the pace at her roommate, or reincarnates as another vtuber it lends somewhat credence to her being pushed out.
Not sure what point you thought I was making.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823665
>>4823665
>>4823665
This.
It explains the cruel timing of them killing her project - the day before it was supposed to end. It wasn't incompetence. They were malicious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822965
This board has people dedicated to doing the same thing to any streamer they dont like. People in this literal thread right now spammed cat gore to get kiara to graduate. People here, now, are part of discord groups dedicated to doxxing and harassing vtubers they dont like. "subhuman chinks harassed a vtuber" doesnt work here, because so did you and you'll do it again with no cognitive dissonance.
reddit has done more damage to the internet as a whole, as a concept, than any other website or collective in human history. reddit is, and Im saying this without a shred of irony, one hundred times worse than the communist party of china, simply because china doesnt posture as a ragtag freedom fighting collective.

I fucking hate reddit and I wish nothing but pain and misery on them.
I fucking hate america and every amerimutt and every kike and I hope yellowstone wipes your miserable abomination of a country off the face of the earth.
I fucking hate every chink and every online communist and every redscarf botsoul and I hope the next canadian plague they steal is flesh eating bacteria and erases their disgusting genetic pool in a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821607
Pretty sure after his war against Buddha and Co then whole development of MeiRoa case which people have been using his own word to break his statement, He has been doing livestream less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820547
Reverse bug spray doesn't work anon, unlike you we're allowed to talk about the shittyness of our government. the issue is that no-one cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822256
unfortunately Cover still held her too dear to be released unlike Coco, they'll most likely try their hardest to prevent it to happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
Based Narukami.

[Anonymous No.]

MacArthur... you promised you'd return... now's the time... onegai

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823759
This was in the immediate controversy; she was referring to the possibility of Coco being cut then and there,.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823511
oh i actually thought he was talking about the Holowhore from this same time last year

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823762
Cover posted the announcement in chinese before any other language anon. they don't post announcements in chinese outside of things relevant to the chinese branch.

[Anonymous No.]

Cover does have Chinese staffs.
And they hate coco.
I thought you dicks knew this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823265
Yeah, as someone that has been following her streams, it seems to match perfectly with all of the bizarre stuff we've seen. Stuff that come to mind: not being at the new years celebration. Said she didn't know it was required, despite every other Holo being there. Also complaining that "someone" was getting between her and the EN girls. We assumed it was Enama, but it doesn't make sense that the EN branch would care about what CN antis would say when they're 99% EOP. Also why would she air dirty laundry? Seems like she had a lot of complaints about management recently too. This seems to indicate that Coco had some serious issues with management, and this all lines up with the rrat that Coco was bullied out. I don't think I can continue to support Cover anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823762
If China is responsible then Cover is also responsible these are not separate entities with nothing to do with each other. Cover is either fucking stupid (capitulating to Zhang) or fucking shitbags (workplace harassment on behalf of Chinese shareholders).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823511
Jesus Christ what complete retardation, very fan of something is a retard, you should aim to be simply an enjoyer of things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823889

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821070
Not even sponsorships, just wait until they start playing Genshin normally

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823394
Just like he was right about Roa bullying Meiro, oh wait, but that doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821084
So.. Holostars?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823762
>still defending Cover
Some of you guys never learn do you?

[Anonymous No.]

OGEY

[Anonymous No.]

Can we just fucking glass China already? They do nothing but spread their chinky little rat fingers into ever facet of entertainment and its pissing me off

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820909
he's talking about hologra you moron

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820427
He is also the one who spread that Kaoru got Miko pregnant so lets not pretend he has a good track record.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823759
>Fubuki says she will leave if management is forcing her to say that they're working hard
Wow it's fucking nothing and doesn't relate to the situation at hand.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822909
The ideal timeline would be
> EN and JP markets get pissy and drop them
> Chink market doesn't forgive them, get no viewership from them
Cover goes bankrupt

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823688
The United States literally meddled everywhere they fucking could, yet the one time it mattered Truman was like “oh just let them be” fucking hell, let’s fight a war to split the coreas in half and finance militias in fucking Nicaragua, but mixing yourself in a civil war on one of the largest countries on earth? Let’s sit that one out.
You already nuked two cities Truman, why the fuck was Beijing too much for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
>narukami
Ogey rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824217
Wait did Miko actually get pregnant?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824217
You're full of shit, I watched that stream live and I remember that he specifically clarified that Miko was not the one that slept with Kaoru, and her hiatus had nothing to do with that.

[Anonymous No.]

you guys unironically watch keemstar too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824428
Obviously fucking not dude, that’s complete retardation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824217
He especially said it wasn't one of the vtubers who Kaoru fucked, you nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820337
That probably means Hologra, but even then, in the Alternative PV she was portrayed in dragon form and not as her vtuber model, which is kinda weird considering this "leak"/rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824426
yea remember when mel was never harassed by cover's staffs?
me neither.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824400
Time to learn that the Democratic party has been Zhang city for over a hundred years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824590
>>4824665
That was after he implied it WAS her, and then had to backtrack because she was getting harassed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823329
youtube still take a cut

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824217
He specifically said that it was NOT miko and it has nothing to do with pregnancy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820547
You forget that we are allowed to shit talk our country as much as we want because we have a concept known as
FREEDOM OF SPEECH
You can shit talk the USA as much as possible without being arrested and forced to make Iphones in a political prisoner forced labor camp.
I know your bug brain can't wrap around this notion, but we can even tell ghost stories.
Have fun living in a smog filled hellhole!

[Anonymous No.]

How is this rrat remotely true? The entire rrat hinges on the fact that the chink shareholders caused this and Cover didn't care. If that were the case, why did they cut the ENTIRE CN branch AND stopped all holos from streaming on BB? This rrat doesn't line up at all on a basic level. It's as simple as it seems. She's tired of angry chinks constantly spamming her channel and friends. She can't even collab without bugs swarming them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824758
He did not imply that it was her, people jumped into conclusions because she was MIA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821084
In the age of cell phones that sounds like free money

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824729
It was even redesigned to make it more obvious it's her. Why even bother to redesign it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823889
you need to take your pills anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
>>Coco was not featured in the Hololive anime
Uh....

I'm throwing the baby out with the bathwater on this one. OP is retarded and so is the video.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822877
It's great to be from latinoamereica. no 1st world country troubles here. :u

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824128
He's based only when it's not about Hololive after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
>>A particular episode was the one where the staff mistakenly gave mod powers to a chinese anti, who went on a rampage banning everyone in her chat
Did this actually happen? That's comically unthinkable even for cover. It must be on purpose. you can't fuck this up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
>narukami
don't care, it's bullshit. even if it's true it's bullshit, because it came from him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824895
>. If that were the case, why did they cut the ENTIRE CN branch AND stopped all holos from streaming on BB?
Because they got banned from bilibli.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824665
>>4824590
>>4824850
He initially went "Kaoru got canned because he fucked someone who's currently on hiatus right now, wink wink nudge nudge" and then had to publicly clarify that it isn't Miko a few days later, do your fucking reps

[Anonymous No.]

This would at least explain the awkwardness HoloEN had in wanting to collab with Coco, but for some reason had to keep their mouths shut about why they couldn't. Or why Haachama was blackballed to a lesser extent. At least I'm sure this isn't the last we'll see of kson by a long shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824819
Better to have a cut taken out than to get a cut of what you earn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
I'm going to add to the accuracy of the TLDR

> there are numerous Cover shareholders and sponsors that comes from China.

But before Taiwan incident, from debut, Coco wasn't liked by these parties. She alone couldn't stream on Bilibili and was ignored when she herself asked. That's what Narukami said preceding mentioning anything about Taiwan.

Also, Coco's spirit broke specifically after the moderator incident (I'm not Coco oshi, but Narukami's description of mod incidents aren't Staff giving mods to Chinese antis but something about "that situation where it needed too big of an investment to hire mods for Coco's channel" -Not really sure what this is about as Narukami did not specify)

Also, this TLDR has something that I think heartwarming but crucial missing in it.

After the Taiwan incident, the talents had BIG arguments with managements asking about the fairness of Coco's suspension stating that this isn't the first or second time talents disclose Youtube analytics to viewers. Narukami also said that it wasn't on Cover's guidelines or contracts that you can't disclose analytics.

Also, Coco wanted to make Apology Video on her channel that Cover "with all their power" obstructed.
Why? Narukami said Coco wanted to say "I did not know there was a restriction to talk about China".

So there were Coco's supporters among livers inside Cover that raised arguments with managements with regards to Coco's punishment, so much so that Cover management got sick of the "collusion" and then initiate a plan for Coco's expulsion.

That's like Black Company shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824400
Truman was a communist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824665
So Kaoru graduated because he slept with vtubers? Who are the rumored one’s?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824995
yep, and coco spent weeks taking DMs through twitter to unban people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824995
Yes, happened two/three months ago? It was such a shitfest that Coco had to unban people herself, because staff was too slow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
So when you say “Narukami leak” you meant 5ch which means all of this is bullshit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825025
Yes. And in the original video he did not mention who it was nor anything about pregnancy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824955
How many more EOP retards didn't know that Hologra has been called Hololive Anime since the start?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825088
>>4825136
Alright, I'm with the rrats, this just doesn't happen out of a whim, that was on purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821885
>>4821916
I'm not the anon >>4821978 is replying to, but funny enough jewtube has never revealed me any vtuber roomate aside from Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820909
He's not talking about holoalt. The word holoanime is refer to the 3D series

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825079
This genuinely doesn't make sense, i can't imagine a situation where all the talent is ok with coco being bullied out and they do litterally nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821070
Yeah if cover starts getting in the chinks good favor again I’ll know for sure that’s what went down. Until then I am just gonna support her roommate the best I can

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825086
holy timeloop

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824729
Memory reps anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825161
>he STILL is believing in reddit bullshit about narukami.

[Anonymous No.]

I just hope they don't start harassing her roommate (and also literal roommate).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825234
They can't do anything.
They lack any kind of power themselves. Thats what employee of a company means.
Only thing they can do is to follow Coco and leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825234
You don't know they're doing nothing yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822930
anon aloe did a flip it's a miracle she fucked up the stunt and is alive

[Anonymous No.]

my problem with it being other cover insiders is if thats true, why did she get two new outfits since saying Taiwan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
Newfags will believe this retard.

[Anonymous No.]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825234
Maybe because your beloved "family" meme wasn't real and they're in this just for money?

[Anonymous No.]

Kanata doesn't sound sad or depressed at all. Either Narukami is full of shit or Kanata has been a liar all this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823961
MacArthur is my oshi now.

[Anonymous No.]

Narukami-sama I kneel

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825086
A lot of vtuber girls, and someone from hololive who was known for seducing other male vtubers. The problem is that he was married, and his wife complained to Cover, and he had to quit in order to save his marriage, because his wife didn't trust him working there anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825379
the chinks already were harassing her roommate channel, she was trying to talk with youtube through twitter a week ago i think to get them to do whatever they did to fix it on coco's channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825234
They have consistently shown support for Coco, starting with the Amoung Us collab. But they probably don't want to leave over "bullying" when Hololive is such a cushy gig. Honestly, I'll be pretty disappointed if no one else leaves.

[Anonymous No.]

The reason they reduced Coco participation in stuff collabs/official stuff and didn’t feature her in Hologra was precisely to draw less eyes on her probably as a strategy to see if things would finally calm down, shitty strategy which likely did somewhat alienate her, but not understanding why Haachama was fine and she kept getting harassed they thought maybe her prominence in comparison was the issue.
But the idea that this was a Black company style bullying to push her out falls completely apart with Holo alternative. She’s one of a handful prominent character in it, and they even redesigned the dragon to highlight it. This sort of stuff takes months to plan, and they wouldn’t invest such time, effort and money on someone they were hoping would quit soon. This likely postponed the project once more, diluting the excitement attached to it each time.

[Anonymous No.]

My trust in FBK is at zero.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821295
kson on air

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825306
That's gonna be edited out soon don't worry (also Noel will end up killing her in her dragon form instead)

[Anonymous No.]

please don't spam kanata

or do

whatever

fags

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825545
It's called acting retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825234
I'm sure not everyone is Coco's faction. But we can tell whose close with Coco just through collabs and zatsudans of other members. She's not being bullied so much as being neglected after the incident. Narukami's video doesn't instance of bullying, it's more acts of neglects, obstruction, and restrictions. I don't think she's verbally being abused or anything like that. Narukami would have wrote that quote verbatim if that were true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825372
>he's still believing anyone at all including Narukami

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825545
>>4825474

[Artia did nothing wrong, and C(...) No.]

>>4819356
She actually was in the hololive anime clip you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese Keem defense force strong today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825746
You forgot to change your name Zhang, kinda sloppy

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825591
>This sort of stuff takes months to plan, and they wouldn’t invest such time, effort and money on someone they were hoping would quit soon.
That would make sense of Hololive was totally cohesive.
But it does make sense when one part of the company wants her gone and another part is fine with her. Hololive seems to be big enough for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825584
Any names? Like hololive vtubers or generally vtubers? The way you worded it makes it sound like several random vtuber and one specific hololive one, or maybe you mean a staff hololive girl defiling my holoboys?

Damn Kaoru, what a mess, kinda glad that guy is gone lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825545
From Narukami's video this has been going on for a long time, there was a specific date of stream on November where Coco spirit broke according to Narukami.

That period lines up with Kanata consoling Coco and saying "you have an important decision to make/consider" don't you, and Coco kinda broke and cry a bit, I wasn't even Coco or Kanatan oshi and I knew about that event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825831
>The way you worded it makes it sound like several random vtuber and one specific hololive one
That was the case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825642
They live together, she'll be seeing plenty of Coco. But I agree that trying to wheedle information or a reaction out of any of the other talent is an extraordinarily shitty thing to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820547
why are you stating the list of awesome things that happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825306
Nvm then, i'm dumb. But now that makes it weirder: why include Coco in that PV when they wanted her out and harassed her according to the leak?

Smells like rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825437
Did a flip? What stunt? I do not understand your internet talk, boomer energy flows through my veins.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/bPvnk0ERPmo
> I do think it'll be a little tough that I can't talk about Coco after she graduates
aaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825980
look at the date.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825980
Animations of that scale take at least a year to be done, idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820909
What is OP doing. Narukami said nothing about Hololive anime (or maybe I missed it I only listened to it once) but there was subtitles, I'm sure I don't miss anything big.

To everyone,
>Coco was not featured in the Hololive anime
Not on Narukami video

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826045
just google DO A FLIP

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823889
I don't ever think I've seen a brain this rotted before in my life, jesus. Meds aren't going to help this one

[Anonymous No.]

>After everything that happened, this broke Coco's heart

I'm sorry, passive aggressive executives broke Coco "Fuck you Motherfucker" "Double down" Kiryu?

It's not even a good lie.
It's probably your own channel
Get out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825443
Yeah, two outfits, prominent role in the alternative when so many other girls aren’t there, if they wanted to black company bully her they waste so much time and money on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825980
Maybe, just maybe. People responsible for the PV are different from those that harras/restrict Coco?

I'm sure there wasn't "plan" to remove Coco. Just restrict her content. And if she leaves? Yeah, whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824895
They got kicked from bili.
Also there was likely a lot of internal struggle over how to treat Coco, but in the end the japanese are passive bitches and would always go the path of least resistance. Which is letting the chinks in Cover management harass Coco into quitting.
I'm not saying this is necessarily true, though the evidence lines up pretty convincingly, but it is very plausible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826150

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820949
Real, and from insider. My autistic rrat thinks this is from like Fubuki or some big liver on her position. Definitely did not come from 4th gen. It's definitely not from Kanatan because she's way too close to Coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
>Cover has executives and shareholders that are chinese and do not like Coco, and wanted her gone
Force them out or kill them. Something. When you see a rroach, you squash it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826045
I'll spoonfeed an elder, even though context should help; flip is slang for suicide, like doing a flip when you jump off a bridge or from a chair. Stunt=acrobatic feat=flip=suicide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826150
It's perfectly viable, if she had to fight the antis herself while the management actively made it harder, and she was in it because of the fans, but even the fans suffered, then she's much better as an indie where her fans are safe and she doesn't have to do extra work because her bosses hate her.

[Anonymous No.]

一応会長のファンとしてずっと見てきた自分からしても全ての発言と時期が一致しています。
billbillの件も炎上する前からやり方が分からないと発言してました。
できればもっとこの件について詳しくききたいです。

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825829
Hard to believe something like that would get greenlit while another powerful chunk of the company wants her gone, you’d think at least they’d tell the design guys not to give her any new outfits, can you imagine everyone getting one except for her? Such a simple thing to do as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826271
probably a staff member

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826115
are you sure narukami dind't said "hologra"¿¿¿

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825936
I’ll take it there is no solid rumour on the hololive one since you refuse to elaborate, thanks for the rundown nonetheless.
That crossdressing bastard was using the holo cred to seduce poor impressionable vtubersas well, what a douchebag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822923
>The most serious issue, which when Coco hand over the antis list for Cover to block, they "accidentally" (intentionally) set the list as moderators but not the blacklist, which caused many members from Coco's channel have been banned (remember that time Coco can't held anymore and kanata came to comfort her? this was the reason behind that)

Oh so that's the 投入大量した件. I missed that context because I did not know what that was about.

That specific incident was when Coco resolved to quit Hololive because she felt the iyagarase (put-down) is way too consistent for herself to deny any longer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826501
nigger she was one of the last people to get ANY new outfits. gen5 had outfits before her

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826115
he says hologra, which is a hololive anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822924
No, they're just a typical company. Shit like this is what JP companies that want an employee gone do since they don't typically fire people because it "looks bad": they act passive aggressively until the person "gets the message" and quits. Black companies tend to do much worse overt bullying and threats as well as overworking their employees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826150
Your EOP is showing, listen to us multilingual speakers for once.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/crunchy_mmloni/status/1280739636667486210?s=21

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826501
You have no idea of how a big company works, do you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826150
That is RP, retard. Coco is just a woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826613
>>4826737
Oh right, yeah yeah yeah I rewatched the video. I thought he was talking about the 3D anime on the official channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826501
That would be too obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826125
>>4826308
Oh you saying Aloe tried to kill herself? Well glad she was unsuccessful on the endeavor. Hopefully she’s happily eating a lot of penis shaped sushi’s right about now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826215
According to the video they never liked Coco to begin with. They were probably extra mad when she caused a dent in the company's returns. The only thing I'm unsure of is who "they" are. It could be Chinese shareholders, but it could easily be others in the company that didn't like or want her there. There may have been a struggle between those that wanted her to stay and leave, or the whole of management may have wanted her out but knew that they couldn't justify it. It feels more like the later to me, as the harassment she got seems to be deeply rooted through the structure. Finally, they decide to release a statement in Chinese. Why? Because the whole point of getting her out was to access the Chinese market again. FUCK cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825657
Looking at cover's inactions for Coco after the incident it makes a lot of sense desu. Coco kept asking for help and they did nothing except making it worse. It was at the point where she did some Kson streams and probably made more money from that than with Cover neglecting her and yet still taking a big cut from her. That's likely why she decided to quit.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822671
Don't worry bro. American here, you are free to hate me as much as you want. You have a god given right to not only hate me but to express that hate and I won't try to get your waifu fired for expressing that hate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826950
It's definitely the Japanese old men who run the company.
>Dixie Virtual American / Japanese
>Big mouth and ran Asococo for ages
>not marketable to kids

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826950
is yagoo powerless in the decision making

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
>Narukami
He’s vague as fuck. Ogey rrat
And everyone here’s is speculating, no matter how well the narrative fits. I’m waiting for Genshin permissions or Bilibili return until dropping Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826741
They straight up sabotaged her and left her to deal with the harassment all on her own. If that doesn't fall under your definition, then I don't know what will. I understand why Aloe said that she lost faith in corporate vtubing, because these people are snakes.

[Anonymous No.]

So this was it huh, this was the final yab that killed cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825552
Too based for this world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822671
Oh boy wait until you find out about the common link between America and China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826950
What videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827464
That would be nice.
Would be great reminder for companies not to get involved with China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826887
hologra is the 3d anime on official channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827411
Everything that's happened this year has made me question what the fuck Yahoo actually does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827449
>I’m waiting for Genshin permissions or Bilibili return until dropping Hololive
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827411
Yagoo is the CEO, he mainly works on the AR/VR part of the company along with pushing for events, and lets managers run the talent. Many idols have never had a real conversation with him. He is also WAY too young as the AVERAGE age of a CEO in Japan is 59. I guarantee he has no power over the shareholders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825234
thats Japanese work culture for you, those girls dont have the voice at all in the company when it come to internal affairs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826950
Narukami specifically stated in the beginning there was some "racial discrimination" towards Coco, as if implying the chinese shareholders (and sponsors) dislike Coco from the beginning just because she's American (but that's an implied). Narukami said racial discrimination though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827449
He's not vague AT ALL in this video.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827589
He's a window puppet, he long sold his shares to chinks and they keep him around, or rather just a photo to post, so people think cover is still the same company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826698
>>4826808
>>4826896
It’s funny that all of these have the same conclusion but different ways to get there.
>too obvious
Not at all, most would barely notice it, furthermore could just keep postponing it indefinitely, furthermore part of the bullying to get her to quit is her realizing she’s getting differential treatment, so being obvious would be an important factor.
>she was one of the last
Why did she get it at all though, just don’t give it to her.
>company is big, many moving parts.
“Assistant, send email to design team ordering them not to make new outfits for Coco, and another to the anime team specifying which Hologirls can show up, oh they’ve already begun work on both of those? Well tell them plans have changes”
Or
“There are simultaneously enough executive working against Coco to bully her but not enough to be aware of these things as they are developed through weeks/months”

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823889
>your average schizo vsimp

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827517
John Cena?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827411
Not likely unless he fucked up, but a nice chunk of his company's ownership is probably owned by outside investors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827704
watch the video you fucking retard
narukami hasn't said a word about outfits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826698
She still got hers before the rest of gen4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827411
You can't run a company alone. That's assuming that Yagoo isn't complicit in the whole situation. Best case, he was Coco's ally, but was unable to stop others in cover from fucking with her through "mistakes".

>>4827449
You won't need to wait too long. Just enough for EN to calm down. I'll never let people forget that it's coming though, and when it does I expect every faggot like you to follow through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823759

If i remember correctly, wasnt this from the HOLOcaust when countelss videos got removed due to mio incident? I remember that day very well, tons of hardcore fans where insanely furious and thought cover was going to disband in the next days or something, but I think the chink incident was also somewhere close during that period too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826501
hololive clearly does not sync outfits with that, cn got new outfit reveals on day of graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827735
It starts with J alright.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827411
He has no power in front of shareholders. They even reduced his salary to save their own asses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827449
Oh fuck that's right Genshin. If anyone streams Genshin then we'll have our proof

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827696
This. Yagoo specifically got disciplined by order of the board of directors after the whole Taiwan thing during a press release.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827571
I know I know. I was replying to this anon >>4820909 and wanting to say that Narukami does not say anything about Hololive Alternatives on his video (just Coco's non-appearance on the 3D anime channel)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821330
oK you SON of a bitch, do your fucking reps, youtube does half the work anyway

[Anonymous No.]

I usually don't do translations but this time it's the exception.
I'm gonna translate the whole narukami video.
Fuck cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827899
They got it in the works and announced it before the entire china thing. Only after taiwan thing happened did cover decide to cut off CN, but since they already announced outfits, they just released it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820547
zhang are you aware of false equivalents, kill yourself annoying spammer

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827831
Never said he did, the point is that’s a weird thing, they blocked her for months from hologra, blocked her from collabs, blocked her from official events, but the outfit just slipped their radar? Weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
Dangerous rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827860
>You can't run a company alone
Especially at his age, he would have incredible tough luck getting money from the banks in Japan.
You either need an older uncle/retired family member being a steward or give too much power to faceless men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827689
I just don't buy it that shareholders could affect the day-to-day operations of cover without strong internal support. Coco was getting fucked over by people she directly worked with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828081
exception does not make the norm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822752
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828039
Just be careful to not mistranslate it or play up any of the incident or you'll give fuel for people dismissing the video as fake fan fuck off with your drama anti.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826323
>>4826868
>>4826266
>>4826786

The argument for her being all alone vs spammers is literally "Remember that one time...!" that doesn't track to sustained internal harassment for months, and I don't buy that the person who doubled down when Hacchama was getting heat, suddenly had their knees buckle months later when shit was actually fairly clear. Having to apply members only chat isn't THAT bad. She wasn't putting down a kitten every time that happened.

It could be possible she's interested in doing other things with her life then reddit meme reviews the rest of her years.

But hey, knock yourself out. You can buy what the doomrrats are selling but I'm not

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827411
CEO's are powerless before shareholders, look at Vince and WWE. CEOs are just frontmen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828105
Based redditfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
Is it fair to conclude at this point all of this is the CN/Anti's fault for this happening? Not just them, Cover took part in the fault as well a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828081
I mean, this is gonna be a rrat but it's probably because they can't just give new outfits to everyone in gen 4 except her, it would make it too obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828258
I just wouldn't believe anything here since chinks are clearly invading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826741
Nah, this is black company stuff... This will destroy cover if it turns out to be true, but narukami alone isn't really credible enough because he has been wrong pretty often too. He alone wont make it any more than a commonly repeated rrat without something else. Gonna need something more.

If it isn't true though then I don't know what he is expecting, wouldn't this be something that gets him absolutely sued for slander in Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828105
We need to push this until they cave in, holos quit, and these fucktards learn what the get by bowing to the chinks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827449
the MOMENT they started crawling back to the chinks i'm out

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828164
The outfit plus hololive alternative, makes more sense that these blocks were more likely trying to give her less prominence once again to try and get less heat on her, which likely backfired alienating her, but that it was a conscious black company decision is questionable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828301
As opposed to everyone in new years event except her? How was that also not obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828196
Yeah I think it’s apparent she was forced out of hololive or quit because they’re a black company

It still hurts though

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827449
He posted the video 13 fucking minutes before Coco started her stream

[Anonymous No.]

Can't believe you idiots actually watch this guy. Just watch a soap opera instead of plaguing the board with the thoughts in your head

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827954
5 bucks says it's aqua

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828258
Bro, first brush up on your English and the meaning 'all of this is'.
Second, just like with covid and the global superconductor shortage, CN/Antis are just the push. The real cause and source of the blame is with Cover. It's a completely different story if she had the full support of the company she is working for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828545
>it will be Fubuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820203
Haven’t watched the video yet and I don’t trust Narukami’s “leaks”, but the greentexts are true things that happened and are also true to Japanese’s idea of valuing the company as a whole over the individual and their passive aggressive ways of getting rid of an individual without outright saying it. It’s bullshit, but I believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828545
Wouldn't it be Ina since she was the one who leaked that they couldn't stream Genshin in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828493
You can have the info that she's graduating beforehand since it will be a big wave behind the scenes of chuubas. But he can likely make anything up too and people will eat it up because "He has info about graduation so everything else must be true!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827696
Cover is a private company with like 30 employees. They don’t have shares or shareholders and aren’t nearly big enough to have a board of directors and shit. You all need to learn more about how businesses work and the insignificant size of Cover as a company. Their level of series funding isn’t even public meaning the entire company was probably created with a personal loan.

Yagoo is the primary owner of the company and likely the final stop for all decisions made at Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828468
And? They also don't put her in anything at all on the official channel. They could've thought the new year stuff can be brushed off and forgotten about, but denying new outfits would be too obvious and also hurt their bottomline from denying new outfit superchats for the whole gen 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828258
They are just a part of it. if anything it's Cover's failure as a company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828688
>30 employees
Not anymore, it's over 100 and growing

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828493
He has videos prerecorded on every current event. This was probably recorded two or three weeks ago and he cheered when he saw the stream slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4826150
I know it's easy to forgot, but she's just a lone, young woman who has had to deal with an extraordinary amount of harassment almost entirely by herself, and she's already broken down at least once on stream. She's not an actual Yakuza mob boss taking assacoco for breakfast and shoving buttplugs into people's asses, she's just a girl that liked playing videos games and got fucked by Cover and China for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828688
This is accurate, Mid covid I went looking to buy Cover stock because I figured this shit was going to blow up.

You can't, there's no shareholders, the rrrats are bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828368
I bet those chinks are already celebrating on their safe space anti-west forums.
>>4828553
Right, my grammar shows how tired I am. Too late for Cover to support her now, all they've been doing is sidestepping over issues due to CN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828196
Are you a fucking child? Have you ever worked in a toxic environment where you had to watch out for sabotage? That's a lot different than taking a momentary blast of heat.

As for the harassment, there is no other Holo with as much shit to talk about management as Coco. If you actually watched her streams you would know that she has had problems with them this whole time. I just assumed it was the usual stuff from the early days, but the tone has been distinctly different than the ironic "lmao fuck managers" of before. That's in addition to Cover's obvious aberrant treatment of her too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4821836
that's why its so insidious. Because there is no evidence, but it is a valid and possible intepretation. Really depends on your own feelings. Some will say Narukami must provide evidence to back it up, that the burden of evidence is on him to prove this is what happened (I think that is the right position), others will say it is on cover to prove it did not do so (which can be taken on emotion, but its like proving unicorns don't exist, any evidence given would just be handwaved as 'company line'

All it does is muddy the waters, but that can absolutely shatter a fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828838
It's okay bro, I'm tired too. Fuck Cover but at least this is a wake up call to no longer support or trust them

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828105

I think I'm done with Hololive/Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828105
Maybe the Redditfag tourists are actually doing good for once…

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828663
Ina's roomate does art for GF and arknights so if anyone is already open to working with chinese companies thats her. Half of hololive already hate her for being korean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828688
then who maintain stuff like holoEN, CN and so on?

[Anonymous No.]

Anybody wanna do gramma check on my translation? ESL here.
Send me PM on discord kak#4793

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828081
There has to be a Coco faction inside the company. Internal politics and shit like that.

>>4828141
Sponsors could put pressures to management though. Like, we're pulling funds if you don't let Coco go. Internal politics from then on. I don't think the entire managements dislike Coco but the fact that she wasn't in the New Year stream was very apparent to me.

It shocked me too as it's already fucking May.

>>4828195
Even if they "mistranslate" there are enough of us on 4chans to correct them. Also, Narukami put subtitles, it's really hard to mistranslate.

>>4828196
Anon, she wasn't invited to New Year countdown program when every single livers was there.

>>4828384
Narukami said it comes from a recording from an insider (I really think it's from liver instead of staff, but that's a rrat). You don't have to trust all Narukami's words but this specific video is in-line timeline wise with shits we see on the surface.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828688
For a company with 30 employees Cover needed outside investments in order to function. Yagoo himself isnt a multi millionaire capable of doing it himself. When people say shareholders, they meant investors who have a big say in the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824113
more likely muse dash. Gura has alluded to wanting to do so in recent streams. With the knowledge that the members knew in advance, what she said really hits different. If they start playing muse dash or chink impact then im done, it will be all but confirmed in my mind. Azur lane I can just barely accept given its Japan leaning and their lack of action.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828825
>You can't, there's no shareholders, the rrrats are bullshit.
Private companies can have share holders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4819356
You're missing a really important point from that video. The Taiwan thing happend twice before Coco - with Aqua and Pekora, after which Cover promised their chinese overlords to thoroughly educate their talents on those sensitive political subjects. Of course they just said that and went about their day as if nothing happend.
After Coco's Taiwan yab, she was going to release an apology video that same day, but it was axed by the management. Why? Because the apology went something like "I had no idea I wasn't supposed to talk about Taiwan", which would put Cover at fault for not doing what they promissed. It was a choice of whether to make themselves look bad or make Coco look like misbehaved brat, and you know what they chose. All the following harassement was to cover for Cover's ineptitude - they literally threw Coco to the wolves just to avoid making themselves look bad before chinese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828825
Do you think the only way to invest in a company is through stocks you mong? Facebook didn't wait until IPO to attract inverters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM-kPro1TGI

SMALL BILLIONAR COMPANY

PURISU UNDERSTANDURU

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829170
>COVER the company COVERed themselves in the face of yab
We were so blind the whole time!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829066
Man just put it here, I'm not discording you. Also, what's your Japanese level? If N1, you're good to go more or less, Narukami put subtitle anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828820
I wouldn't say she is an invincible bastion of power that never had a sad.

She absolutely wasn't 'lone' though, she was wildly popular among the talent, wildly popular from her fans. She has very close friendships in hololive, and got lots of support from Gura dedicating yakuza songs to Fubuki sticking up for her. There's already an almost universal outpouring of public love for her from the rest of the talent. Doesn't sound like pressure from on high to me.

I just don't buy that the things in OP could break the person who I saw go through all these last months with a smile and a laugh for her fans. I've seen vtubers breaking down under pressure. Coco doesn't have that look to me.

People will make their own judgements, but that's mine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829170
Seconded. This 100%

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828892
They have already engaged in obfuscation of the details with heavy moderation in reddit and telling Coco to keep quiet about her reason for leaving, in addition to the announcement being made in Chinese. The burden of proof is on them at this point. Don't give them an inch of charitability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828545
I knew that JAV whore was a traitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829360
You know that the whole motherfucker thing is a persona that she plays on the stream, right? It's a character, you understand this part right?

And you do realize that she has broken down and cried on stream too, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828688
They're have at least 50 employees, probably more than 100 if you count every middle management and end staff member, they've had 20+ million dollars in funding from the biggest banks in japan and they absolutely have a board of directors.
They're a multinational talent agency managing around 40 people in at least 5 different countries and renting actual stadiums to do concerts.
Cover is not a small indie company, they're probably making close to a million after taxes every months and they barely pay minimum wage. They actually needed a literal lawsuit to start paying minimum wages at all.

Stop acting like this is a garage company. Its an idol management corporation and they have schedules and quotas to meet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828688
>Cover is a private company with like 30 employees
https://cover-corp.com/company/

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829170
Who is "the chinese" to you in this scenario?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829360
>I just don't buy that the things in OP could break the person who I saw go through all these last months with a smile and a laugh for her fans

I'm autistic. Are you autistic? Seriously, how could you watch her streams and not get that she was stressed out. Coco is not even my oshi but the clips that got to my YT recommendations and stuffs makes it apparent that she's under pressure.

It's good to doubt, be critical, and form your own opinion, but don't be in denial when Coco herself talks shit about management from time to time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820908
You tend not to be able to do business in China without Chinese onboard. It's a way they worm their way into companies and take control.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829146
>>4829196
They're not subject to the same public pressures that are being claimed here. C'mon don't play games like you can't understand why a private company is less subject to public pressure than a publicly owned company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829119
Not how it works. Cover has no reported venture capital income and have not ever done even a series a funding round.

I doubt Covers startup capital demands were any more than a hefty personal loan couldn’t cover which is usually the case with start ups that haven’t done any series a funding rounds yet. Simply put, at this point Cover is not as an organization owned by anyone other than the original founders that currently operate the company.

With that said, they could very well be looking to clean house to actually start a series a funding campaign which West Taiwan loves to get into. But all the house cleaning decisions are being made by Yagoo and nobody else at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828688
>>4829517
>with like 30 employees
>They don’t have shares or shareholders
>aren’t nearly big enough to have a board of directors
everything you said is wrong. Maybe you should learn how businesses work

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829631
They're subject to the pressure of their Chinese shareholders not liking Coco and wanting to be int he Chinese market. How fucking hard is that to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829103
Think he's gonna have to make the recording public I think, maybe put it through some heavy manipulation before he does so, but he's gonna have to present evidence to be a true killer, and if it turns out to be false he will fucked in turn by doing so.

[Anonymous No.]

Cover does have investors i believe.
During the taiwan incident, they released some statement that states that yagoo took a reduced salary after high-ups decided that was the punishment. And everyone was wondering who is higher up than yagoo is he's ceo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829756
Which one of these shareholders are chinese

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829631
>>4829753
Idk man, I don't really care enough to check Cover's website and check their financial report but even I know Mitsui and Mizuho invested in them. No way they don't have board of directors.

My rrat is actually that Yagoo is on the side of Coco. It's hard for me to see him as a double-faced sociopath considering how many hololivers has some sort of physical ailments and got their second chance through hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829753
Holy shit retard
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000252.000030268.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829559
Shareholders (株主) and sponsors. At least that's what the video says.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829614
Look, absolutely, time to time? sure! Hell it is still totally reasonable that she might have had a bad relationship with some management.

But did she have a "we're using subterfuge and harassment to eliminate our biggest money maker, persistent revenue stream, and the person who kickstarted the now biggest branch of our company?"

And they as a company as a whole let it all happen "because she's icky? Troublesome?" They wanted to kick off a fan kickback higher than Aloe because she grossed them out? I'm getting more incredulous people are giving this rrrat the time of day. There's way better out there.

There's not sufficient motive, there's not sufficient evidence, and there's not sufficient corroboration with other events at the time. It's barely credible enough to not be a conspiracy theory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829897
Put it through heavy manipulation and people will just say he recorded it himself. When you have a reputation for lying and creating drama, it will be hard for people to trust anything you do. But there will also be people that will believe it because he also has a reputation for telling the truth sometimes. So honestly whatever he says will just be to confirm your own suspicions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829972
>>4830039
Why do people think Cover has chinese shareholders? Why are you getting your information from the one guy notorious for making shit up?
Are you actually retarded and dont know they have a sponsorship from HTC, a taiwanese company?
Why am I asking these questions to mongoloids?

[Anonymous No.]

Those are RSU holders from angel vestments. None of those listed as shareholders are venture capitalist groups. Hell most of them are partnership agreements.

And at $4million held capital, they are a tiny company

[Anonymous No.]

Still not finished yet, check my dubz
0:01 Good evening, this is narukami.
0:03 This video has been recorded and uploaded on youtube privated
0:08 By this time this got publicized
0:11 Kiryu Coco graduation or something similar would have been announced by Hololive
0:18 The details (of the graduation) might be changed further on
0:22 And by the time I uploaded this I would not know any of the changes in details.
0:25 For those changes, if necessary, I would publish more about them later
0:29 For this video, it has been recorded with information provided by insider(s)
0:34 By this time
0:37 “Kiryu Coco retired by her own will” would have been spread around
0:43 I knew from multiple sources that Kiryu Coco would graduate
0:49 One of that source has told me information that denies the “retiring by own will” part
0:55 So it will be about that this time
0:57 These are the details that the person had told me
1:00 The circumstances leading to Kiryu Coco leaving Hololive
1:04 is the result of the west Taiwan incident, harassment that can be called racism from part of the management,
1:11 and the movement to relentlessly alienating her
1:17 First of all
1:18 There are magnitude of chinks insider as shareholders and sponsors. (Do a search yourself on investors)
1:23 Kiryu Coco, being American, has never been liked much from her debut by those (chink insiders)
1:29 For example, about publishing videos on bilix2,
1:32 she asked the west Taiwan branch on how, but got ignored.
1:35 As a result, she is the only one that has never been explained about the procedures and can never stream on bilix2

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830131
Narukami says in the video you can check Cover's list of sponsors and investors for yourself, it's public knowledge. There's chinks in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4825980
That's because it IS a rrat. You fuckers fall for this shit EVERY SINGLE TIME.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829980
Like all companies there will be sides. So yagoo and his side probably supported coco and was the one that offered her many options when she said she wanted to quit. There are probably shareholders with employees on the opposing side that was making life hard for coco despite the other side's support. She's in a sticky situation no matter what so it makes sense for her to just quit.
I hope the side that supported her just breaks off and create another company and then they can just rehire her and all the rest of the talents will graduate and join this company too

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830279
Keep going anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830091
>But did she have a "we're using subterfuge and harassment to eliminate our biggest money maker, persistent revenue stream, and the person who kickstarted the now biggest branch of our company?"

She didn't appear on New Year countdown program. It was a 6+ hour stream, it's very odd that every liver is there but not her. That's just the most blatantly obvious one.

According to Narukami, and I also believe it after the fact, the "making trolls mods" incident was the straw that broke Coco's back because she couldn't deny any longer the consistency of Management's put-down towards her.

Those 2 events happened before our eyes.

Anon, it's okay if you don't understand Japanese culture, but some of us here do. We have more exposure on a regular basis to Japan and shit like that.

It's okay to be a critical western but don't be in denial on blatantly obvious shits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4827229
Everything lines up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828081
Let's see

Spend a few grand on an outfit that will pay itself back 3 times over in 5 minutes
Or
Be petty and leave youself open to a massive rat about how cover neglected to ever give her a new outfit outside of the new-year one

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830335
Sponsors and investors do not get a say in how a private company operates. In fact individual investors specifically stay out of the operations of companies because more often than not, it’s an investment firm managing some rich persons portfolio investing on their exit strategy rather than having any involvement and interaction with the companies directly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830335
So did you check it? Who are the major chinese shareholders?
We both have the same list. Who are the chinese in Cover's BofD?
>narukami says
this time yesterday this would be immediate grounds for dismissal, just so you know. he's vtuber keemstar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830091
Don't bother debating these retarded rrats. If they hated Coco so much, they would've graduated her instead of nuking the CN branch and pulling out of China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829429
The subreddit has always been heavily moderated, and it won't stop this from spreading so its irrelevant if it the currently lockdown only stays up for 24 hours. If it goes longer than that then yea I agree that that is fishy and the burden of proof may be on them to explain Narukami's video. Announcement being made in Chinese... is it traditional chinese or simplified? If its simplified then that is big, as they supposedly have no more business interests left in China, only in Taiwan. The characters look uniformly complicated so I think its traditional, but my chinese reps are long ago past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830279
Don't say West Taiwan are you fucking joking. Just translate normally without your bias in it.

>racism
It's racial discrimination, racial differentiation if you want to be literal

>the movement to relentlessly alienating her
Just say exclusionary practices man. This is the 排斥運動 part, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830667
>Announcement being made in Chinese... is it traditional chinese or simplified?
Both

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830410
Your hope is not going to happen because the side that breaks off will be cut off from the rest of the industry and sponsorship opportunities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829972
"Other Individual Investors"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830091
Look into black companies and how they get employees to quit. They never fire them

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830618
The thing is, to know, you need to know how many % of Mizuho and the likes are owned by foreign entities though. And you can do that yourself if you want. I'm not invested enough to do that for you.

Not to mention, we can't know "potential sponsors" that demands Coco being let go as requirements anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4822462
IF you're relying on things said 9 months ago, the situation has changed since then with HololiveEN. Its different if this rrat is proven true, but if it is not proven then a good amount of EN audience who came with the arrival of EN will stay. It could definitely have a chilling effect on JP viewers though, they'd be likely to have their main English tie be Coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830664
They nuked the CN branch after Bilibili already preemptively banned them. It's a domino effect. Besides, during that time Artia was under a misunderstanding that she get to keep her live2d, which she had to retract right afterwards. That sounds like internal politics to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4823875
her roommate is half vtuber already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830486
So because "It's odd" and "remember that one time" suddenly it makes it blatantly obvious? I'm actually speechless you're trying to cover so much ground in 5 sentences and you think it makes sense.

While quoting "did she have *such* a bad relationship that this was something that makes sense?" when that relationship isn't even proven to be mildly strained. Missing one event and "that one time" unbelievable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830930
You also know they axed a whole wing of their business to not kneel to pressure. Plus the legal laws in China around Vtubers. Did you forget those things happened?

This unknown investment Chinese sponsor just whistled and the entire private company said "yes sir!" Do U Rlly Belieb?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830930
>"its public knowledge, there's chinks in there, everyone knows, I heard it online"
>"well we cant know for sure, maybe the third biggest bank in japan is actually chinese, we dont know. maybe the chinese are hidden."
>"I'm not invested enough to look it up."
oh no no no no he fell for the rrat. he needs to defend the virtual youtuber rumourmonger on the 2003 kurd carpet cleaning forum.
he's in way too deep, he needs to be dismissive and ironic or else he has to admit he doesnt actually know.
he actually thinks investors would call a company demanding changes instead of pulling out if they thought it was bad. he doesnt know

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830773
there is no differentiation between the two words in Japanese.
>exclusionary practices
what the fuck does that even mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>4831295
Retard, they axed holoCN BECAUSE of pressure from the chinks, the chinks wanted to "save" their girls from Cover and Cover kneeled like they always do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4829170
Regardless of Cover's mismanagement, Coco is the one making the choice if the graduation is a possibility or not. The executives know that even China hates her, treating her badly will result into bad PR toward the rest of the world due Coco being its influential figure. On the other hand, treating her a hero was distasteful to other co-workers who relied on Chinese market to meet ends before the split. You have Executive A who's nice to you before the yab turn sour and irritated after you're the main cause of losing half of your salary.

And truth to be told, several talents have resentment toward the split and have shown change of attitude towards Coco. If they're really thankful about Coco, those talents who care for her should put a strike or silent protest. But they're in a situation that they put their shoes first before others, especially Vtubing is a dying career trend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4828108
And we all know how the japanese yield to faceless men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4831399
They tried to pressure her into quitting even before the Taiwan incident by giving her worse treatment

[Anonymous No.]

>>4831154
I don't care enough to convince you if you're doubling down on your stance anon. I'm literally only here because I'm on a leave for personal reasons. I rarely visit 4chan anyway. Take it or leave it.

>>4831399
Basically, your superiors makes your situation in the office uncomfortable af so that you'd resign on your own "volition".

>>4831295
Bilibili pre-emptively banned Cover though.

[Anonymous No.]

>hololive CN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MEsNwHP_j4

[Anonymous No.]

>>4831295
>he wasnt there
the chink ultimatum was "either you fire coco or you pull out of china", and cover pulled out of china. this was why they axed CN. they chose the japanese branch.
>This unknown investment Chinese sponsor
no fucking way this is your actual train of thought instead of either "cover fired coco because of antis" or "coco left because of antis" or "coco left because of cover".

[Anonymous No.]

I know it's Narukami, and this video alone is full of bullshit, like Coco being rejected from bilibili, but come the fuck on. Cover themselves admitted that they gave a bunch of people who were supposed to be blacklisted moderating rights instead "by mistake". By mistake? How fucking retarded do you have to be to not see what the fuck was going on? Whether it was because of chinese boogeyman, or because Yagoo pesonally hated Coco, or whatever else, it's blatantly obvious that Cover harrassed her into quitting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4820547
A retarded twist of an already retarded concept.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4831557
alright thanks, also i put in west taiwan and chinks so that leddit wouldn't copy my shit (like nigger watermarks) but i guess we want them to know this

[Anonymous No.]

>>4831627
>By mistake?
Yeah Narukami pointed out this is the straw what broke Coco's back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4831713
nobody can even post on the subreddit right now. it's pretty much run by Cover so don't expect Narukami's rrat to shows up anytime soon

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck do you get for defending Cover, sir?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4830664
Were you even around during the Taiwan incident?
When it happened, Cover immediately threw Coco under the bus and tried to suck China's dick once again to make amends, but it backfired really bad with the western audience. And no, I'm not talking about 4channel or some discord server. People were genuinely mad over basically anywhere, the consensus was that Cover fucked up by (once again) conceding to the Chinese and that they would rather not support a company like that. Remember that also it was not long since Aloe's fiasco, so it really added up. Not to mention how HoloEN was just a huge success, they couldn't risk losing the massive newcoming EOP crowd, so they had to make a choice.

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>>4831713
You wouldn't do Coco any favor if you put political bias into your TLs though. But it's your TL ultimately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4831986
Ok, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4831406
Then they would have let them keep their costumes, like they wanted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4824066
Not that anon, but there was also the incident that Cover made a china anti a moderator and he banned her members.