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>> No.48192533
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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EN3 is kill

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>>48192502
Recent clip numbers
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>>48148681
>>48148711
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>>48148781

>> No.48192574

>>48192388
>using all that retarded dribble and not just summarizing it to susan trying to fix the algo for her shorts project and fucked up everything else
funniest part was with the rouge algo suddenly banning some black youtubers kek

>> No.48192598

>mori and ger blu ray shilling
what does she gain from this?

>> No.48192647
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* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>67,379: Pekora (Hololive)
>50,393: Yorumi (Nijisanji)
>40,166: Subaru (Hololive)
>37,795: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>36,399: Flare (Hololive)
>31,931: Aqua (Hololive)
>19,132: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,831: Ange (Nijisanji)
>13,232: Voltaction (Nijisanji)
>12,566: Watame (Hololive)
>12,301: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,947: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,138: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>10,940: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,938: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,243: Ina (Hololive)

>> No.48192649

>>48192568
good we need more male vtubers

>> No.48192678

Hololive JP > Hololive ID > Hololive EN

>> No.48192691
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>>48192647
>APRIL 2023 GOLDS
1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream
2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong
5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal
7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut
8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft
9) Ryushen (Nijisanji) - 78,299 - Smash Bros. Tournament
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 97,308 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament draw
11) Iroha (Hololive) - 37,543 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 39,193 - Uma Musume gacha
13) Korone (Hololive) - 111,617 - 4th anniversary 3D live
14) Hal (Neo Porte) - 62,240>APRIL 2023 GOLDS
1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream
2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong
5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal
7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut
8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft
9) Ryushen (Nijisanji) - 78,299 - Smash Bros. Tournament
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 97,308 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament draw
11) Iroha (Hololive) - 37,543 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 39,193 - Uma Musume gacha
13) Korone (Hololive) - 111,617 - 4th anniversary 3D live
14) Hal (Neo Porte) - 62,240 - Apex VSaikyo 5 final scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,037 - Apex VSaikyo 5 tournament
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 244,788 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament
17) Miko (Hololive) - 55,500 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Nene & Mel
18) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 122,091 - Host outfit 3D reveal
19) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 40,447 - Rust
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 64,780 - Granblue Fantasy collab
21) Marine (Hololive) - 96,062 - Pro seiyuu auditions w/Miko, Polka & Koyori
22) Kanata (Hololive) - 104,665 - 3D birthday variety show
23) Miko (Hololive) - 51,761 - Soulcalibur 6
24) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,091 - Granblue Fantasy
25) Pekora (Hololive) - 51,435 - Granblue Fantasy collab
26) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,379 - Granblue Fantasy collab

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji
3x: Neo Porte
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
7x: Pekora
4x: Miko
3x: Hal
1x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Kanata, Korone, Kuzuha, Marine, Okayu, Ponto, Ryushen, Salome, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
87x: Hololive
20x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
34x: Pekora
10x: Marine
8x: Miko
5x: Toya
4x: Hal, Subaru
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei
2x: Chiroru, Koyori, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Iroha, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Salome, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>> No.48192694

>dwarf repellent OP
Not gonna lie, those chocolate elves look pretty fucking breedable.

>> No.48192706

>>48192649
Well clearly the issue is that they were targeting the wrong region, so the only logical move is to debut StarsID and make JP7 a mixed gen.

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new thread just in time for a Kronii stream

>> No.48192712

>>48192598
>what does she gain from this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeXatquVqAc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULeDlxa3gyc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0
vids related

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So, at the end of the day CCV means nothing, SC means nothing, Likes, Views, Comments, it was all meaningless. What have we even been doing here besides discussing the latest drama.

>> No.48192734

>>48192422
>people still hope for pikamee joining that snake den
somehow I'd feel bad for her

>> No.48192753
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*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>4/26 DAILY TALLY
12,301: IRyS (Hololive)
10,243: Ina (Hololive)
5,126: Mori (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR APRIL 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,729 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Mori (Hololive) - 19,768 - Outfit Reveal
3) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,749 - Q Remastered
4) Mori (Hololive) - 24,195 - Birthday Stream
5) Kronii (Hololive) - 12,994 - Minecraft
6) Sonny (Nijisanji) - 13,826 - Birthday Karaoke
7) Kronii (Hololive) - 21,845 - Uno (w/ Mori, Magni, Vesper)
8) Selen (Nijisanji) - 23,498 - PuyoPuyo Tetris 2 Tournament
9) Mumei (Hololive) - 43,634 - Outfit Reveal
10) Kiara (Hololive) - 15,972 - Easter Collab
11) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,199 - Minecraft
12) Kronii (Hololive) - 10,504 - Minecraft
13) Mumei (Hololive) - 9,986 - CouncilRyS RPG
14) Kronii (Hololive) - 11,753 - 2.0 Reveal
15) Gura (Hololive) - 19,449 - Choo Choo Charles
16) Baelz (Hololive) - 27,878 - Outfit Reveal
17) Gura (Hololive) - 17,691 - Choo Choo Charles
18) Gura (Hololive) - 16,667 - Baldi's Basics
19) Kiara (Hololive) - 7,271 - Minecraft
20) Ina (Hololive) - 18,401 - Karaoke/Announcement
21) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 12,392 - Touchstarved (w/ Vox, Ike, Sonny, Doppio)
22) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 88,255 - Outfit Reveal
23) Ina (Hololive) - 28,128 - Outfit Reveal
24) Mori (Hololive) - 8,583 - Minecraft (w/ Kobo)
25) Vox (Nijisanji) - 12,650 - Birthday Stream
26) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,301 - Unarchived Karaoke

>PER COMPANY
21x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Kronii
3x: Baelz, Gura, Mori
2x: Mumei, Kiara, Ina
1x: Sonny, Selen, Fauna, Fulgur, Mysta, Vox, IRyS

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
25p: Kronii
23p: Fauna, Ina
22p: Mori
21p: Baelz
20p: Mumei
17p: Kiara
15p: Gura
12p: Luca
11p: Vox
9p: IRyS
8p: Sonny, Selen, Mysta
5p: Fulgur
3p: Kotoka
1p: Axel, Amelia, Elira, Ike

>> No.48192764

>/#/ hates male vtubers
>/#/ likes Towa, Ina, and Kanata
explain yourselves

>> No.48192778

>>48192691
>7x: Pekora
Is she the Salome of Hololive?

>> No.48192798

>>48192678
This is the numbers thread, SEAfag.
JP>EN>>ID

>> No.48192807

>>48192709
sorry, i'm busy jacking off to kronii paizuri

>> No.48192808

You know it's kinda funny how vshojofags keep praising vshojo for not being corporate, at the same time they dogpile silvervale for "lacking professionalism" when she left

>> No.48192814

>>48192764
you are a faggot

>> No.48192823
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>>48192753
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
82x: Hololive
32x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
12x: Mori
9x: Baelz, Gura, IRyS
8x: Mumei, Ina
7x: Amelia, Fauna, Kronii, Vox
5x: Kiara
4x: Mysta
3x: Pomu, Shu, Selen
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
99p: Fauna
82p: Ina
79p: Mori
78p: Mumei
76p: Baelz
74p: IRyS
64p: Vox
54p: Amelia
48p: Mysta, Kiara
47p: Kronii
45p: Gura
38p: Luca
26p: Selen
17p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
10p: Ike
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
8p: Finana
7p: Regis, Elira
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>> No.48192827

>>48192502
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>> No.48192837
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>>48192764

>> No.48192871

>>48192808
talent freedom as long is the freedom that they choose for the talents

>> No.48192888

>>48192823
noa is better

>> No.48192890

>>48192709
I'm just gonna watch Bae. I don't like One Hand Fapping and I honestly like Bae more than Kronii right now.

>> No.48192892

>>48192649
Aren’t there enough male streamers without having to hire a bunch of talentless hacks desperate for clout and/or sex?

>> No.48192905

>>48192764
>Ina, and Kanata
man-hating dykes are ok as long the pretend to love their males fans

>> No.48192925

>>48192827
*HoloJPChad. EN and ID can go fuck off for all I care.

>> No.48193007

>>48192925
>JP beggar trying to gain credit for pekoras success
The only chad here is pekora and the nousagis since other JP members keep dropping the ball without her

>> No.48193010

>>48192837
I could've sworn there was an image like this but with Ina instead?

>> No.48193026
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>>48192925
Got yer oshi right here faggot.

>> No.48193036

>>48192892
it's still virgin field for dudes with anime avatars
>but luxiem
they don't count his target market is SEA

>> No.48193062

Huh i just realized that Pekora is the oyabun of hololive

>> No.48193091

holobronies

>> No.48193112

>>48192925
You blew your cover on this a few days ago. Forgot already?

>> No.48193121

>Bae can't stream regularly because she's in a hotel this time
>Streaming from the studio
>Says it's a work trip

>> No.48193148

>>48192365
>nyanners
>giving up on her biggest grift yet
it's the same person who shooed her fucking cats when she got dicked down, anon

>> No.48193156

>>48193062
that's still Sora, Pekora is the Kaguya Luna of Hololive

>> No.48193174
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>>48193112
>few days ago
try few months ago
last nijirai larpers are persistent

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Still waiting for them to graduate

>> No.48193228

>>48193156
Nah Pekora is much bigger and more integral in Hololive than Sora now

>> No.48193249

>>48193174
>not even a tripcode
try harder ENshart

>> No.48193258

>>48193036
It doesn’t matter. Vtubing has become an extension of traditional streaming and the demand for male vtuber streamers is nigh nonexistent (especially now that the fujos have fucked off). Stop over saturating the market with leftovers no one is interested in.

>> No.48193273

how this game had money to hire trigger to animate the trailer? i thought this was some small game, will holos play it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjOXlvs87Lo

>> No.48193277

>>48190785
Only Gura can get 1 million views after passing 60k ccv

>> No.48193282

>>48193192
Only one that has the risk of graduating there is Nina
Everybody else if shielded due to cliques/high earning nijimale

>> No.48193283 [DELETED] 

>>48193062
>>48193228
Nousakek please your brown brothers dont come here for another 7 hours or so

>> No.48193306

Is kronii still the #1 council?

>> No.48193316

>>48193228
So is Marine, Miko, and Subaru though

>> No.48193322
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Lol.

>> No.48193329

>>48193306
Yes

>> No.48193348

ENshart this ENshart that

>> No.48193349

>>48193277
Retarded ENshart

>> No.48193351

>>48193306
No

>> No.48193353

>>48193192
This would be better as a catalog ritual post

>> No.48193355

>>48193322
lmao

>> No.48193359

>>48193249
nijinigger...

>> No.48193409

>>48193316
And Suisei and Aqua

>> No.48193408

>>48192892
None that are willing to become vtubers, looks like.

>> No.48193418

>>48193322
>average EN watcher

>> No.48193430

>>48193273
it isnt 2018 anymore anon
trigger isnt that high profile

>> No.48193432

>>48193273
I’d watch that anime (yes i know it’s just a game)

>> No.48193461

>>48193192
Luca will be the last man standing. Every NijiEN girl wants his dick badly.

>> No.48193462

>>48193430
please, just don't fuck up dungeon meshi

>> No.48193467

Rosemi 2k, is she inclining?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6sPZMekwWw

>> No.48193534

>>48193408
I mean why would they become vtubers when being a male vtuber is a debuff compared to being a male fleshstreamer
worse of all if you are gaming centered your vtubing career will be more of a hinderance rather than help when it comes to getting into tournaments

>> No.48193559

>>48193467
oh it's pink Fauna

>> No.48193593

>>48193348
>>48193349
I have literally never seen a good post with enshart in it

>> No.48193610

>>48193467
kek, why is vrabi recommending vesper in rosemi's graph?
https://vrabi.net/video/w6sPZMekwWw

>> No.48193624

>>48193467
>Fnaf
Yeah no

>> No.48193629

>>48193467
looks like it was a raid? since i saw it going to 2.2 and then dropping to 2k and now bleeding agai

>> No.48193633

>>48193559
She debuted before Fauna...

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>>48193467
uh good gimmick probably, expect every organ to run it into the ground in a couple weeks

>> No.48193663

>>48193467
>fnaf
low for nijis

>> No.48193671

>>48193610
because for some reason its also recomending rosemi in vespers graph

>> No.48193675

>>48193026
Iinchou my beloved

>> No.48193736

>>48193467
>only 2k for fnaf
isnt that a little low especially for a gimmick stream?

>> No.48193803

>>48193467
we gonna pretend Rosemi didn't used to be popular?
ok

>> No.48193805

>>48193409
>Aqua
Why do Aquacrews still think she's a top tier holo?

>> No.48193808

>>48193736
overlap hell

>> No.48193827

>>48193534
That’s exactly my point.

>> No.48193830

>>48193322
Massive "please for the love of God buy my bluray" energy.

>> No.48193836

>>48193322
TAKE YOUR TIME

>> No.48193854

>>48192712
Blu rays usually don’t fall under the artist revenue unless you have the weight to ask. Even then her body is owned by cover so she only gets a cut of a cut

>> No.48193897

As if anyone is surprised or not, the im@s girls are dead on arrival. Not even singing a pretty popular iM@S DS song is helping them (and they can't even sing). Not sure what the fuck Bamco was planning with this, I actually kind of feel bad for these girls.

>> No.48193911

>>48193633
And the Phantom existed before Batman, but history hasn't been very appreciative of that fact.

>> No.48193913

>>48193036
There are plenty of great male streamers, what do they gain from being a vtuber? Appearance and kayfabe are the only real advantages that being a vtuber gives you. No one outside of Asia gives a fuck how you look, which is why being a male vtuber doesn't work in the West. OTK have some of the ugliest fucking dudes in the entire streaming market, yet their clique is the biggest on Twitch and still dominate.

>> No.48193930

>>48193854
UMG is paying Mori in exposure

>> No.48193981
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I just realized rio didn't get the rust buff. Why does it work on gamma but not on rio?

>> No.48193982

>>48193322
Kronii deserves this not for being a holocollaber, but for running to daddy EN management and demanding they release a statement about MUH MALE COLLABS WE DOES WHAT WE WANTS instead of handling her own channel drama.

>> No.48194008

>>48192598
>It's cringe if it's Mori but based if it's Suisei

>> No.48194009

>>48193854
talking more about her umg salary
even though its a little low something like an average of $50k a year she still has a contractual obligation to shill it
That and the more blue ray she sells the better umg gives her exposure

>> No.48194050

>>48193322
Holy fuck the absolute state of HoloEN

>> No.48194053

>>48193897
The who?

>> No.48194056

>>48193981
Rust buff is a male buff not a female one

>> No.48194071

>>48193322
>me whenever kronii streams

>> No.48194083

>>48193981
Because Gamma isn't playing rust, he's playing microsoft paint.

>> No.48194092

>>48194008
That statement applies to almost everything.

>> No.48194096

>>48193854
No wonder they tied sales to stretch goals for her next sololive.

>> No.48194109

>>48194053
Yeah, exactly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxBftixd3Gk

>> No.48194117

>>48193322
Guys im starting to think they might be a little bit desperate

>> No.48194137

>>48194009
>That and the more blue ray she sells the better umg gives her exposure
How are we not at concert nr 2. And why the fuck is her exposure conditioned on fucking blurays and not concert sales, album sales, online views blah blah

>> No.48194149

>>48194008
>I don't understand the difference between always doing it and a sudden change in behavior

>> No.48194174

>>48194056
That’s anything when the males leech. They get a buff while sabotaging the girls. It’s not worth it for the girls, yet some continue to allow males to take advantage of them.

>> No.48194178

>>48194008
do you have an inferiority complex wheb it comes to suisei?
i never brought her up
i just wanna knoe what she gains.
does she get a sololive sponsored by UMG? i wanna know

>> No.48194197

>>48192720
Wrong about sc they do mean something if you’re pumping a million a year. It’s still considerable at 600k+ but yes for the most part it’s worthless. Ccv usually isn’t important but drop in ccv is showing an actual drop in vods and sc for the other members. On the other hand the more jp ccv grows the less they need sc. Also the LEWDS

>> No.48194254

>>48193322
Kronii made her bed. Let her lie in it.

>> No.48194350

>>48193228
>>48193062
No pekora is the uraban of hololive

>> No.48194352

So A-chan took Bae to eat cup noodles... Didn't she take Gura and Ina to some fancy meat grilling place?

>> No.48194380

EN3 ah ah ah

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>> No.48194384

>>48193981
Holopro in VCR rust is like HoloEn in HoloRust. They were there but not a center of the attention.

>> No.48194391

>>48193322
don't you think it's time to forgive mori and kronii /#/ they deserve a second chance, they were just blind by cocklust or in mori case retardation

>> No.48194435

>>48194352
Gura and Ina went out by themselves

>> No.48194450

>i wanna eat it when i get back to my shed
that cuck shed...
when will she finally leave it?

>> No.48194467

>>48194137
>And why the fuck is her exposure conditioned on fucking blurays and not concert sales, album sales, online views
unironically because some retards high up still thinks that physical sales means something in the music scene
>t. someone who was friends with chicosi andd 1:43

>> No.48194480

>>48194385
Kronii please play Dredge or something.

>> No.48194500

>>48194391
I don't have anything against Kronii or Mori, I just wont watch them unless they do something very interesting. I'd rather just watch the runt rat.

>> No.48194503

>>48194174
the girls look much happier playing on this server than in holorust tho.

>> No.48194522

>>48193349
Show me members with multiple million vods at 60k ccv. If you really want to prove a point show a member with 14k ccv that broke a million views.

>> No.48194528

>>48194385
GRIM

>> No.48194529
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>>48194435
Lesbian sex confirmed?

>> No.48194538

>>48193322
Clockfags are just not engaging in idol culture like she wanted, part of which involves fans getting reamed up the ass with grossly overpriced goods

>> No.48194549

>>48194391
>>48193982
this anon gets it, slamming open the door for the twitter mob and antis it's a real long lasting effect and much of her issues regarding the birthday sales comes from not signing at least 500 postcard, the lazy fuck.

>> No.48194555

>>48194435
They also went to Karaoke and a meal with A-chan and Sora.

>> No.48194612

>>48194391
I don’t hate Mori and Kronii and never did. The problem I guess is that “apathy” or “mild positive feelings” don’t get people to buy merch. Tourists don’t buy merch (like for example a bunch of people who who show up for special streams or collabs but not your normal stuff).

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SexRyS

>> No.48194633

>>48194549
she had jaw surgery and before even fully recovering went to japan, have some empathy

>> No.48194672

>>48194178
She said that Bluray sales are tied to how fancy her next soloLive will be; live band, pyrotechnics, bigger venue and so on. Of course, you could interpret that statement less generously as saying that they're gonna cut those things from the event instead of them being addons, since most of those are pretty standard for a second Live, or any of the recent Holo ones.

>> No.48194680

>ace of council
>not even 5k

>> No.48194684

>>48194538
I still find it funny that Gabe got cucked by 3 blue women

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>>48194538

>> No.48194690

>>48194623
super...

>> No.48194736

>>48194633
nah

>> No.48194740

>>48194690
That's not the edited one it's the original.

>> No.48194743

>>48194680
If anything it proves that Fauna's fans are botting her streams

>> No.48194751

>>48194612
>Tourists don’t buy merch
They absolutely did

>> No.48194755

>>48194633
>Jaw hort means she can't fucking write
it's a line of work with absurd returns, and she's coasting on the hardwork of her senpais that built the brand while shitting on it, it's all deserved.

>> No.48194758

>>48194685
Kronii is getting fucked in the ass by the shipping thanks to cover...

>> No.48194761

>>48194096
umg has always been retarded and backward when it comes to that since they somehow still put a lot of emphasis on physical music sales

>> No.48194777

>>48194743
we already knew that

>> No.48194807

>>48194685
Shipping not gonna get fixed until contract goes up for re-negotiations with DHL.

>> No.48194806

>>48194633
The time doesn't line up though, the actual signing merch thing will be long after her jaw recovery.

>> No.48194812

>>48194503
How many hologirls are even in this rust server? Just a couple hardly helps your aegument.

>> No.48194836

>>48194751
isnt kronii on the lower end of the merch sales when it got tallied?

>> No.48194859

>>48194503
Matsuri looked like she was having fun on both.

>> No.48194871

Marine doing a kaigai holo thing with Pochi, Pekora doing tournament announcements, Koyori has a big announcement.
Too much stuff going on in Hololive today. There's a guarantee niji gold event today right? Or am I misremembering things

>> No.48194899

>>48194836
shh, they'll call those numbers fake but still seethe at them

>> No.48194898

>>48194503
really cause ive been following matuli and she seemed much happier in s1 and 2 holorust than the current server

>> No.48194915

>>48194807
Not that guy but it's only Laplus (retired early), Matsuri and Towa oh also Rio. That's it I think.

>> No.48194914

>>48194812
Towa/Laplus/Matsuri

>> No.48194934

>>48194898
Only because Luna was talking to her.

>> No.48194935

>>48194633
Literally nothing is stopping her from getting someone ELSE to sign these if somehow jaw hort means she can't use her hands. Bitch just said "nope" to 100k worth of sales

>> No.48194939

>>48194503
lapu was with yui so obviously

>> No.48194947

>>48193322
I like it because Kronii was literally the last bastion of defense for the beggars. They lost Mori, Ollie, Ame and Matsuri but Kronii was still getting amazing numbers even after the meltdown. People were speculating that those were tourists and her gachi would end up leaving but fags from /inf/ insisted that everyone but that gabe faggot was still there.
This is justice, if there is a single Holo who deserves the recline is Kronii. She never gave a fuck about Hololive or her fans.

>> No.48194964

>>48194871
>There's a guarantee niji gold event today right?
Lauren and Salome graduation announcements

>> No.48194971

>>48194871
the 3 stream you wrote are in 3 different timeslots, Pekora is sandwiched between Koyo and Marine

>> No.48194982

>>48194914
>Laplus
She didn’t even bother with it the Holorust server.

>> No.48194988

>>48194812
Towa, Matsuri and Laplus, Towa already mentioned she wants to play Holorust and Matsuri seemed happier on s1 of Holorust desu

>> No.48194995

>>48194935
Personal integrity?

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>> No.48195021

>>48194503
Laplus spent almost the entire time with Yui, who is possibly now her best friend.
Matsuri had way more fun in holo RUST.
Towa didn't play holo RUST at all.

>> No.48195034

>>48194947
but miko shills merch too in her loading screen

>> No.48195036

Anyone saved the smug face Kronii? I want to use that image to post about her current number.

>> No.48195037

>>48193981
Gamma made himself a key fixture of the server by whoring out his art services. I don't think Rio did anything notable beyond joining the rest of the Homos a couple of times.

>> No.48195040

>>48194758
only Kronii?

>> No.48195057

>>48194684
he's gonna get cucked by the current green woman he's simping

>> No.48195070

>>48195000
>Mori self shilling stream higher than a nijien gimmick stream and vespers specialty stream
jesus...

>> No.48195075

>>48192598
>why do people want to sell something that makes them money
Are you dumb?
The absolute fucking state of /#/

>> No.48195083

I don't think kronii is getting on the cripple tally tonight...

>> No.48195087

>>48194995
We are discussing Kronii, no?

>> No.48195090

>>48194871
what niji gold? there is no event for niji today unless that valorant stream with a pro is a event

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>>48194982
No, that was Towa. Laplus actually played a little bit on HoloRust.

>> No.48195098

>>48195000
didn't vesper usually sit at 3k? what happened?

>> No.48195106

>>48194982
She played it twice on stream and a couple of times off stream. She just walked around for a few hours and got killed while having no idea what she was doing.

>> No.48195128

>>48195040
yes, the others are doing paizuris instead

>> No.48195136

>>48195070
Mori's mom is in the stream...it's a handcam unboxing...

This is supposed to be a big buff, she's literally whoring her mom out to advertise merch lmao

>> No.48195140

>>48195040
everyone but especially Kronii
her stuff is weirdly voluminous, apparently

>> No.48195141

>>48195075
>she actually gains something other than money from selling the blu rays
not my fault you are clueless.

>> No.48195150

>>48195128
Hot

>> No.48195155

>>48194982
She played twice I think
Granted it was around the same time they were having a little rift with holox as a group on the direction of their gen

>> No.48195154

>>48195128
what a waste wtf

>> No.48195166

>>48195037
Honestly if you only do the thing everyone else is doing better then it's not gonna help your numbers. The others really should have thought of what skills besides shooting they have and used them. Though I think Gamma is thanks to Laplus since she's the one who made him draw and kind of advertised him I think.

>> No.48195168

>>48195098
had a fight with blue homo, thirsted for gook pussy

>> No.48195175

>>48194684
riifu is not blue tho

>> No.48195200

>>48195000
Thats just sad. Good shit Mori. Does any luxiem have something lined up or is Fauna gonna get cripple with ASMR?

>> No.48195224

>>48195200
Mori has unarchived karaoke after this

>> No.48195227

>>48195136
its a buff when you arent unboxing your own merch anon and unboxing something interesting
self shilling couple with unboxing is a big debuff which is why streamers usually do gimmicks like giveaways or amazon gift cards when they do shit like this

>> No.48195277

>>48195096
Fubuki Rust was pretty kino. Fucking gambling addict

>> No.48195280

>enter the stream
>mori and her mom are shouting buy the bluray
doesn't Mori have any of her oil barons left? She used to get 500$ akasupas for no fucking reason, you're telling me some of these fags can't buy some goddamn blurays when their oshi is literally begging them to? This is the kind of shit that'd never happen to Gura

>> No.48195302

>>48195175
saw him hanging out in ghost gura streams but disappeared

>> No.48195327

>>48195280
People who superchat thousands don't always buy merch because some people don't see the point in physical goods vs having their SCs read

>> No.48195336

>>48195224
Didnt she only get like 8k with that last time? I could have sworn

>> No.48195348

>>48195227
I want to see Gura unboxing her Crocs.

>> No.48195357

>buy my merch!
>buy my bluray!
Things looking dire on the female side of the skwad. Let's take a look what the males have to say
>We make too much money!
lol

>> No.48195362

>>48195302
>spoiler
that dude is the cuck litmus test kek

>> No.48195363

>>48195280
most of her paypigs bailed when she shifted focus to RM stuff

>> No.48195369

>>48195166
Gamma had big numbers from doing multiple art commissions before La+ and Yui decided they wanted one as well. In fact, they decided to commission him after seeing the art he had been hired to do for someone else though I don't remember who. Not knocking Gamma for finding a unique way to leverage his skills, though Astel is proof that being good enough at shooting can be considered a unique skill, but I do agree Rio lacked that. I do wonder if Roberu saw a significant bump from being the social monster he is normally, or if it was just his normal collab numbers but I don't care enough to actually check.

>> No.48195412

>>48195336
6k

>> No.48195431

En3, you probably don’t exist but if you do and you’re reading this: male collabs. Not even once.
You know I’m right.

>> No.48195441

Bae for the love of god JUST MOVE YOUR FUCKING TIMESLOT TO 2HR LATER AT LEAST.
even fucking kroni with secondnpart of a debuff indie game is getting more than you being on fucking japan.

>> No.48195462

>>48195348
If she put them on her feet with a feet cam that'd be a ez 70k stream.

>> No.48195465

>>48195369
>they decided to commission him after seeing the art he had been hired to do for someone else though
the yuri art was their commission

>> No.48195476

>>48194623
>surprisingly not super

>> No.48195491

>>48195357
Money Mori and Coomer Kronii got a taste of real gachi milking and sometimes they still get a glimpse from the past, the crumbs that the faggots got their hands on pales in comparison.

>> No.48195499

>>48195363
i thought they'd go for her RM stuff as well, how does that work? or did they bail when "muh underground scene rapper sold out" with the umg shit?
>t. clueless

>> No.48195512

>>48195431
anon if EN3 ever comes its going to be mixed gen, it's over let it go

>> No.48195527

>>48195465
Yes, anon, but they weren't his first customer. He'd been doing commissions for scrap for a while on the server, and they decided to hire him after seeing the art he had produced for a different client.

>> No.48195539

>>48195336
That was archived, JP and overlapped by Lacunny karaoke. Her last unarchived was guerilla 3am valentines which was 11-12k i think. Honestly it’s kind of funny how every non JRPG part 77 stream she does in JP time gets something like that. She does ASMR and gets hit by NoeMari ASMR

>> No.48195580

Do you ever give up Lapschizo

>> No.48195583

>>48195441
If IRyS doesn't want to be the EN garbage collector, then Rrat should do it.

>> No.48195584

>>48195441
Tourists don't actually know she's in Japan You can see in Twitter replies people being consistently astonished when it's brought up in passing

>> No.48195603

>>48195357
The more she gets the better bonus she gets for the next concert. It is good she is shilling this hard

>> No.48195609

>>48195499
Who knows she had so many yab happen over the years it's death by a thousand cuts. All that's left is to see what the final nail will look like.

>> No.48195614

>>48195512
would be weird since they would have to make a brand new division for that to work and considering the budget cuts they are imposing on stars i dont think thats feasible

>> No.48195645

How come Yagoo wants to destroy the thing that makes his group special? Hololive 2023 is so much different from Hololive 2020-2021

>> No.48195655

>>48195499
The answer is that he made it up. Same as when people claimed TonyBones, the chumbeat who paid for DMC voices for Gura birthday left her after the AirBnB and then he superchatted her. People don’t like Mori so they decide she’s failed and work backwards.

>> No.48195664

>>48195584
Is on the thumbnail

>> No.48195679

>>48195369
Yea I only saw it from laplus pov and heard people talking about him so figured it was the first one. Either way he made some connections even if they're somewhat shallow at this point. He went from literal who is that a viewer to that artist that did commissions. Axel went from "Oh god not this guy again" to "Oh god he sucks too."

>> No.48195706

>>48195499
not really since holo stuff usually dont go hand in hand with holo stuff

>> No.48195716

>>48194137
>>48194467
Her concert was 3k I believe. Album sales were middling. Online views of newer songs don’t compare to the old discography. The only impressive metric has been her sales.
Now we come to the disconnect. We don’t know the numbers but her merch was limited and sold immediately so we’ll call that x. Impressed by that they probably got greedy and went for x^2 instead of 1.5x for the blu ray expectations. We’re now in a scenario where Mori either has a soft limit at a little over x or she flatlined. Either way they have to beat the goal so the added shilling.
Realistically Mori is either confused or they lied to her. It’s more likely that the concert will happen when she reaches the sales goal.

They pay for the concert and ticket sales are split 50/50 at worst so it makes sense they want to be assured of their money first.

>> No.48195741

>>48195645
Debuting Hololive EN was a mistake.

>> No.48195748

5k dorya....
She got a sizeable funnel from Mori ending

>> No.48195751

>>48195539
No i meant her last Mom&Mori karaoke. It got like 8k or 6k if this anon
>>48195412 is to bw bwlieved

>> No.48195796

Kronii's ccv increased before Mori ended. This is why I don't think there is a fat funnel.

>> No.48195804

>>48195751
the 6k was a christmas carol karaoke.

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>>48195751

>> No.48195829

>>48195645
You? You only want SOME; but Yagoo, Yagoo wants it ALL!

>> No.48195831

>>48195716
>Realistically Mori is either confused or they lied to her
That and they still put a big retarded emphasis on physical music sales in 2023

>> No.48195830

>>48195645
The market became stagnant, and he had to seek out new audiences to maintain growth.

>> No.48195835

>>48193322
this is sad

>> No.48195840

>>48195040
The shipping costs rise up exponentially based on the size of the package, and since she's sending a pillow that makes her merch particularly onerous when it comes to shipping costs. Marine has the same issue with her pillow

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>>48195796
anon when in doubt always watch the graphs

>> No.48195855

>>48194450
Never

>> No.48195862

>>48195796
Getting anything for that game is already a fat funel

>> No.48195891

>>48195830
Their growth has gone way up since late last year in spite of the homo push.

>> No.48195920

>>48195716
>Literally claiming they lied to her with 0 evidence
>Claiming it sold poorly when everything from her mood to her actual literal words to everything she’s said or shown about previous sales for UMG stuff was it being fantastic

>> No.48195922

>>48195098
>Skip every branch collab
>Yabba dabba doo

>> No.48195938

>>48195741
Nijiseethe

>> No.48195951

>>48195840
How is the other plushies not affected AS MUCH for that. Like the sapling and risu are huge but arent as fucking stupid on shipping as kronii

>> No.48195955

>>48195357
>Buts its ok when SUISEI does it!

>> No.48195963

>>48195741
Hololive becoming popular in the west was a mistake
Theres a reason why the Golden Age of vtubing was when Nijisanji was on top

>> No.48195965

>>48194685
>>48194758
The man literally admits to having no plans to buy it originally. Now he claims he’ll buy it with less shipping with a green super. Yea this guy definitely has $150ish laying around

>> No.48195975

>>48195716
Mori is still doing great by Hololive standards but keep in mind that since she joined UMG she's been on a nonstop recline. I don't think they are too happy with that, labels are supposed to use their massive influence and funds to turn you into a superstar. I'm pretty sure they were hoping to make Mori reach her 2020 peaks.

>> No.48195980

>>48195716
As a musician I can tell you, if your record company is talking to you about numbers, your contract is bullshit. "Mori" is a character owned by Cover. She should be doing whatever she wants and not giving a shit about *their* deal.

>> No.48195986

>>48195830
nigga we have the IPO papers and graph anon did a 365 average chart earlier today, it's all incline for both branches before Tempus, now only JP

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>>48195848
I did. Kronii's ccv graph trajectory changed before Mori's stream ended. But Kronii did get a small bump after Mori ended.

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>>48195891
>Their growth has gone way up since late last year in spite of the homo push.
You can clearly see which branch is the one that inclined and which is the one that declined over the year.

>> No.48196015

>>48195922
People used to think he was bro until he flaked on a group collab like that.

>> No.48196048

>>48195965
LC Lapen is a long time Mori gachi who drops reds all the time he has the money

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>>48194743
Nice try Kroniie.

>> No.48196086

>>48195975
>Mori is still doing great by Hololive standards but keep in mind that since she joined UMG she's been on a nonstop recline
Isnt that partly their fault as well since they use that retarded spotify doctrine which infected holo

>> No.48196098

>>48195716
Alternatively the umg manager bonuses come directly out of how many blu rays she sells and he asked mori to try and sell a few more copies so he can have a nice Christmas vacation this year

>> No.48196114

>>48195891
lol, not really. unless you're only talking about ccv

>> No.48196123

>>48196005
yeah not everyone wait for the post-credit scene while watching a movie, some fuck off early

>> No.48196151

>>48196011
>still using the niji 35 graph
what a dishonest graph

>> No.48196210

>>48195741
I remember how much fun the 2021 Halloween stream was and how much hope I had in the EN branch after that, despite my reluctance to accept Council. And then Luxium debuts a few month later and everything starts to fall apart for the whole EN vtuber scene. Maybe it was before that or after, but the sense of incoming dread came when NijiEN started debuting faggots and Cover returned with 8 more in kind. Even if I mostly watch JP, EN had more convenient hours for someone in NA time zones, I watched and enjoyed their content because I love all the Hololive girls regardless of the branch they come from. That’s what made Hololive become special to me.

>> No.48196216

>>48196086
No, I think UMG is using apple music, which is even absurd.

>> No.48196220

>>48196151
Ok you can stop replying to me now, SEAmonkey.

>> No.48196226

>>48196114
i mean compared to the rest of the market they are actually thriving

>> No.48196238

>>48194633
>>48194995
I don’t know where the misunderstanding came from but you can start signing a week before and up to the last day of sales. Technically you can keep signing right up until it’s ready to ship. So no this is purely on her not wanting to.

>> No.48196256

>>48196098
That is exactly what she has said

>> No.48196258

Why is a bunch of people in vt talking like they're industry-insiders with years of experience?

>> No.48196268

>Bae shown Ollie the new Ori
OK Cover announce ID2 3D debuts already for next week 2 max, shes invited to Ollie's one.

>> No.48196274

>>48194391
>>>>>>>>>>>second
arent we already like on 40 something?

>> No.48196279

>>48195741
This

>> No.48196284

>>48196086
>retarded spotify doctrine
?

>> No.48196289

>>48195951
It's calculated based off total dimensions, not on volume for some reason, so the pillow being 1m x 1m make it count as cheaper than the plushie whose longest dimensions are less than one meter

>> No.48196295

>>48196216
i meant the doctrine of spamming and releasing song nonstop that was proposed by spotifys management

>> No.48196318

Bae's been working on her song coming out since middle of last year. The orisong shit really takes a lot of time for EN. Think it's like Kiara said with sparks about cover getting in the way?

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>>48196258
>he isnt one

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>>48196226
compared to nijisanji, they're lacking behind. that's why they start to follow nijisanji strat again this year

>> No.48196347

>>48196258
This is the thread for that. Many people here also work in marketing/insider trading as well and like to share that know-how with VTubers and how the industry can grow.

>> No.48196358

>>48196151
Huh so thats why theres something weird going on with nijijp in that graph

>> No.48196376

>>48196015
I noticed he wasn't a bro when he was treating Magni like shit the moment he was put in the same collab as a female (fucking Ollie).

>> No.48196375

>>48196258
/#/s has 200 collective years of industry experience

>> No.48196383

Bae getting 3k in an SC reading with a Kronii/Mori overlap is surprisingly good. Fauna only had Ina and she had to get a funnel

>> No.48196384

>>48196258
The fans sometimes understand the industry more than the supposed expert

>> No.48196394

>>48194947
Let’s not exaggerate. Nowhere near amazing but good for sure

>>48195034
Next you’re going to say miko had to get an extension to

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>>48196258
WTF, we've got an outsider here. I'll have you know I was a tree in the class play in highschool.

>> No.48196464

>>48196086
I know we hyperfocus on YouTube in part because it’s the platform we have the most access to numbers for but for music music streaming services matter more.

>> No.48196484

>>48196344
Still weird that Anycolor is still sitting on all that liquid assets and paying shit ton of taxes for it
It kinda feels like they are preparing to ditch just in case something happens

>> No.48196486

>>48196375
and >we post 9000 thousands year old cunny, holy shit

>> No.48196485

>>48196318
Well yeah they need to fucking work ith jp producers so everything will be delayed for months since they have like only a few hours a day to actually get and discuss feedbavk and goals.

>> No.48196494

>>48196417
That's not a very well drawn foot.

>> No.48196500

>>48195741
So much this.

>> No.48196518

>>48196384
Now say that without laughing

>> No.48196537

>>48196375
In flipping burgers?

>> No.48196549

>>48196494
that's a fucking broken foot kek

>> No.48196553

>>48196486
>9000 year old
>cunny

>> No.48196555

>>48193981
rio's problem is that he's actually playing rustm, like axel

>> No.48196557
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>>48196494
Please make due with this.

>> No.48196599

>>48196394
She has though?.

>> No.48196606

>>48196384
fans may be faster at recognizing patterns/issues but have zero clue on how to fix it

>> No.48196613

>>48196344
I mean if you are using company garnished charts from both cover and anycolor sure you can say that
although its kinda funny that anycolor is kinda behaving like centennial technologies back in 96

>> No.48196680

>>48196518
I work in marketing management and have expertise in economic forecasting as well. The industry has the potential to boom but the problem is idiots love stagnation or focus on unnecessary means of growth.

>> No.48196685

>>48196606
Isn't it just fans know what they want and they know when the company isn't giving it to them? It's not like there's some expert knowledge and foresight involved here.

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48196696

imagine

>> No.48196706

Mori gold Fauna silver because Fauna is trash and will never get another gold

>> No.48196711

>>48196210
I don't really see Luxiem affecting anything because they are targeting the fujos in the east. Western vtuber scene is already not really good and that "something looming" was the cultural war that was waging in all the media in the west and it certainly is already around the corner for hololive because the major western players, vshojo and codemiko are all SJWs or their allies. There is no way you wouldn't have troon infection if you want a western audience. This is also the reason why all the posters of the DC/Marvel movies have black people in the poster (e.g. Antman) while Eastern countries received normal posters. If the viewers themselves don't push back on this thing using institutional power, then the cultural war will always be there and the girls can't even do a video with space shuttle in it, let along watching a space launch or reading some interesting histories. The contents will always be stale because they have to sanitize their contents for this cultural war as a result of the long march in the institution.

>> No.48196713

>>48196484
I mean, just look at Cover
>Blue Journey was a flop
>Nothing about Hololive City at all
>No news regarding 3rd studio
>HoloEarth is nowhere near done
>HoloAlt has no hype and is pretty dead at this point
Would you want to invest in other ventures when your competitor is failing at it?

>> No.48196717

>Suisei is a homocollaber
>Suisei shills just as much if not more than Mori
>Suisei streams once in a blue moon
>Suisei collabs with people outside hololive more than fellow hololive members
>But Suisei good Mori bad

>> No.48196768

>>48196717
big numbers good

>> No.48196776

>>48196318
Orisongs typically take a long time unless you have an album in progress. JP just have Cover songs in between so it's not noticeable.

>> No.48196788

>>48196518
>Now say that without laughing
>Anon doesnt know about the sony email leaks revealing how retarded the market experts really are
Im no expert at comic book movies but im pretty sure Spiderman doing crossfit and pilates while drinking jamba juice shouldnt be the main theme of a movie

>> No.48196797

>>48195037
>>48195166
>>48195369
>>48195679
>>48195465
>>48195527
Yea i 100% agree about wactor
Himea D'Almaria
https://youtu.be/H9eZO1iwzRA [Open]
https://youtu.be/2lphqQItVNo [Open]
https://youtu.be/FojCVWaLf6Q [Open]
https://youtu.be/xoMMU4OPuAo [Open]

>> No.48196841

>>48196680
It feels like they're so afraid of damaging the IP, they're afraid to make any move at all which is damaging the IP. If they do nothing with it, interest in hololive in the west eventually falls off.

>> No.48196850
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The first hour of this stream had only 4 people whole people overlapping him
>Kyo
>Finana who ended 30 minutes after he started
>Rosemi
>What looks like some kind of Mori song debut thing that I refuse to click on to find out what it was that ended after about 10 minutes
He still failed to reach 2k unless you're niji tier desperate and counting Zs, and this is his big signature buff content.
These guys are dead as shit, I genuinely can't see them coming back from this at this point.

>> No.48196861

>>48196680
Even someone like me knows that a marketing "manager" wouldn't want to waste their time on 4ch

>> No.48196860

>>48196768
Why does this thread like any EN then

>> No.48196862

>>48196344
Based on the patterns, Q4 tends to suck for some reason.
If 2023/3 Q4 grows 20% more than Q3, I will kneel.

>> No.48196888

>>48196717
We hate Suisei here too if not more than Mori
>>48196713
How much are they down today?

>> No.48196924

>>48196537
I flip a mean burger. Secret is to make form a ball of ground beef, sprinkle with salt and pepper. Place it in scorching hot skillet, take bottom of another small pan and smash ball as flat as you can, salt and pepper again and wait for edges of meat to brown, proceed to scrape with spatula and turn to other side. Put cheese on top and let melt. Place on bun after cheese melts and put whatever on top of it. Congrats, you just made a smash burger.

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>>48193192
>can get fired for being too based
absolute state of nijicucks

>> No.48196939

>>48195831
Umg japan where it’s still a big thing in Japan. It’s making a resurgence in the west

>> No.48196954

>>But Suisei good Mori bad
Yes. Is that so difficult to accept?

>> No.48196964

>>48196717
Yes.

>> No.48196965

>>48196717
Most people here want Suisei to graduate though

>> No.48196970

>>48196860
this thread is not one person

>> No.48196971

>>48196850
The thing about vtubers that are declining (see graph >>48196011 ) is that they are generally not that interesting.

>> No.48196990

>>48196713
>Blue Journey ok
>Holocity ok
>3rd studio built and moving in
>HoloEarth is releasing character customization beta next month
>HoloAlt just signed a contract with LineManga
A lot is still going on.

>> No.48196995

>>48196841
>interest in hololive
Nonexistent desu
Or that's the future with the way things are going now.
>>48196861
Speak for yourself. I've advised many companies that are new to the NYSE that went public in how to market better.

>> No.48197036

>Suisei good Mori bad because... Uh... IT JUST IS OKAY

>> No.48197043

>>48196924
I saw this movie. Then you spread the graham cracker crumbs and make the guests wear funny chocolate hats and marshmallow suits, and then burn down the restaurant, while letting the escort leave, right?

>> No.48197046

>>48196713
If anything that would be the best time to invest since you can deliver the killing blow to your competitor but instead they still hoard it.
Hell thats not even including the weird coincidence of Xi winning the reelection in march and imposing his october plan of chinese companies investing outside china and gaining more soft power and Anycolor suddenly going foreign investor side of the jap stock market
Not to mention theres less investment in their own events and merch this year compared to last

>> No.48197057

>>48196990
Notice how many of those projects involve HoloEN.

>> No.48197060

>>48196990
No
No
lol
Flop on arrival
Flop on arrival
Just cope and accept stagnation.

>> No.48197071

gold candidates for today?

>> No.48197090

>>48196927
can get fired for "being too based" while also not fitting into the reality-TV drama culture of nijiEN
zaion was *too good*
rosemi and pomu are also too good
we'll see

>> No.48197097

>>48197036
Name one thing why Mori is good.

>> No.48197105

>>48197036
I don't watch both their streams but singing wise, yeah, Suisei is just better okay

>> No.48197108

>>48197036
But we hate Suisei if not more than Mori here.
Right thread though, king.

>> No.48197114

>>48196713
>Blue Journey was a flop
The fuck are you talking about

>> No.48197121

Alright /#/, it's time to set aside tribalism for a moment. Who's winning the Cup this year?

>> No.48197152

>>48197060
>Just cope and accept stagnation.
isnt that niji post 2020 though? i mean they got that big boost of cash when they went public but even then that cash stagnated in their accounts

>> No.48197153
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>>48194549
>HOW DARE SHE NOT SIGN POSTCARDS AND HAVE THE AUDACITY TO STREAM WITH MALE STREAMERS. MALE FUCKING STREAMERS. I AM SO MAD BECAUSE I AM AN UNKEMPT VIRGIN
I dont have a soijak strong enough for this post, have a onimai

>> No.48197158

Thread was good a few hours ago but now it seems only retarded people are posting?

>> No.48197164

>>48196927
>too based
Sure, would you want Zaion as EN3 instead?

>> No.48197170

>>48197071
If Toya or Kuzuha is going tonight, feel free to mark them as a favorite.

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>>48197036
Mori has disgusting graphs

>> No.48197179

>>48195920
Man you cuckbeats get defensive. At what point did I say it sold bad? My exact words were that they were impressed but
now want more. Go buy more blu rays if you’re that pressed

>> No.48197184

>>48197036
Yes.

>> No.48197188

>>48197097
She's literally the Suisei of EN.

>> No.48197201

>>48197121
Leafs

>> No.48197207

>>48196318
Anon, even Suisei took more than six months for a song. Music production took a lot of time.

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>>48197121
Towa cupping my balls

>> No.48197229

>>48197170
>chinman or kuzuha
>having a chance of beating pekora tourney draw
ruru

>> No.48197232

>>48197170
Going where?

>> No.48197240

>>48197188
Name one gamer moment for Mori?

>> No.48197249

>>48196711
Luxium’s success got us 8 homos. Maybe Cover would’ve still debut Tempus, but they probably don’t fast track more thar likely allowed them to completely ignore female auditions.

>> No.48197252

>>48197060
I accept your concession.

>> No.48197258

>>48197114
Not even 100K views after 2 weeks
It is a flop.
>>48197152
I don't care about Niji. But their profits are substantially higher than Holo and can risk more bigger projects than Holo atm

>> No.48197261

>>48197224
I'm counting this as a NJ answer

>> No.48197264

>>48197153
>tranime watcher

>> No.48197292

>>48197158
>every post who doesn't agree with me is posted by a nijinigger
>unicorn hating/baiting
Gee I wonder why. Some people just want (You)s instead of discussion.

>> No.48197300

>>48197184
>>48197173
>>48197108
>>48197105
>>48197097
Stop replying to desperate deadbeats.

>> No.48197301

So what is the percentage of vt users that are from SEA compared to those from NA? I'm guessing the SEA users have outnumbered NA users already

>> No.48197305

>>48197240
Scarface watchalong

>> No.48197313

>>48197170
do they have something special today?

>> No.48197349

Reminder that Suzy was known more from her Tetris and not singing early in 2020. You guys remove one of the reasons she's popular

>> No.48197365

>>48197258
Do you think Suisei's midnight grand orchestra was a flop as well?

>> No.48197370

>>48197301
>NA hours
>let's blame all the shitposting in sea because reasons

>> No.48197403

>>48197301
well, poor people usually obsess over numbers

>> No.48197410

>>48197258
>can risk
>can
Key words.

>> No.48197412

>>48197258
>But their profits are substantially higher than Holo and can risk more bigger projects than Holo atm
Thing is they arent risking in any projects this year hell in fact it kinda looks like the opposite since it seems like they are lessening investment even in their own activities this year compared to last year
It kinda seems like they are preparing for something grim desu

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>>48197164
>implying I even watch vtubers that aren't indies
lol
lmao even
I only come on here to laugh at schizos and wank off. nijicucks are a different breed, eternally malding over being the shadow of a more successful corporation like Hololive must be hard

>> No.48197470

>>48197249
Even without Luxiem Cover would still debut starsEN because they are trying to fill a market niche. Failure by Cover is not that they debut starsEN, but it is to
1. Blur the brand of "starsEN" and promote them as "Tempus" collectively
2. Blur the line between holoEN and starsEN
Which resulted in a lot of drama. Way more drama than the JP side equivalent.

>> No.48197473

>>48192709
>Mori doing kareoke and is barely beating Kronii. who is playing a debuff game.
LOL

>> No.48197490

jesus christ bae and kronii are absolutely bleeding to mori

>> No.48197539

>>48197258
>more bigger projects
didnt they soft cancel kanae and nornis 2nd concert that was supposedly coming later this year? and they supposedly bailed or in the process of bailing on some asian con as well.

>> No.48197544

>>48197423
>implying I even watch vtubers that aren't indies
Oh just a tourist lusting for (You)s then. Go back.

>> No.48197557

>>48197423
whatever happened to yanderedev

>> No.48197573

>>48197365
Was it not a flop?

>> No.48197601

>>48197490
Mori mom buff

>> No.48197629

>>48196048
But is he one for kronii?

>> No.48197668

>>48197601
I don't watch those specifically because Mori's mom is there. She's a debuff in my book. I have nothing against her but honestly I don't want to listen to her mom.

>> No.48197681

>>48197412
What are you on about? Hololive already has 5 empty projects looming, one of them already a flop on arrival.

>> No.48197697

>>48196717
blue good not blue bad

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>>48197153
Don't post Mahiro you subhuman

>> No.48197708

>even the traditional hololive only clippers are now clipping hololive moment about nijisanji
Well unity abounds.

>> No.48197710

>>48197473
Just shows how out-of-the-box she is after all her fuck ups. She should be used as a cautionary tale for EN3 on how not to conduct themselves as a Hololive member.

>> No.48197716

>>48197470
The only reason you think so is because you can't read Japanese and don't know about the drama there

>> No.48197717

>>48197258
>Not even 100K views after 2 weeks
What?

>> No.48197727

>>48196861
>you stop visiting the websites you were visiting in college and just because you got hired somewhere

Nigga, I've shitposted on /k/ from the CDC campus while waiting for instruments to run on the weekend.

>> No.48197730

>>48197539
>didnt they soft cancel kanae and nornis 2nd concert
Never heard that but I do know the concerts didn't go too well.

>> No.48197770

>>48193981
Gamma had third place vsaikyo buff, vspo girl interaction buff, as well as drawing art pieces for several players. Not only that but he’s actually good at balancing interaction with players and chat, which is why he’s always been ahead with SCs as well. He can flow in between being entertaining with a zatsudan and doing a bit with any streamer he comes across, plus he’s polite.
Meanwhile, Rio is absolutely terrible at streaming, but has good chemistry with other holopro talents and is cute, which isn’t a draw for new people.

I’m not a homo shill or anything, I’ve been interested in their buffs and checked out their streams. Honestly Gamma is someone who takes chances and works hard, then you have Uyu who is the absolute shitter of all of HoloPro. It’s clear as day what’s needed for them to incline just by looking at these two in comparison — they need to capitalise on buffs and have something that pulls people

>> No.48197792

>>48197716
Funny because I actually can. Cover actually stopped a lot of drama by clearly stating that hololive and holostars are different groups in JP.

>> No.48197854

>>48196995
Economists are hacks no matter how good you are because you can never make good predictions.

>> No.48197869

>>48197668
Same. Not that I watch Mori much anyway but I'd probably watch a solo Mori karaoke over aBae zatsu normally. No interest in her mom.

>> No.48197878

>>48197573
It sold better than any hololive album except Suisei's

>> No.48197912

>>48197770
>not a homoshill
>use the term holopro

>> No.48197930

>>48197573
Depends how you argue it. Bigger concert more merch but I think it sold less than the first album.

>> No.48197937

>>48197681
talking about niji anon
the taking on bigger risk is kinda bs at the moment considering most of their actions seems to be retreating rather than investing in projects especially with their weird ip enforcement that started this year which resulted in a lot of niji mindshare to go poof
like with the fan cafe ones and clamping down on en fanmerch

>> No.48197950

>>48197349
>Tetris
lol no, she was lucky and got carried by EOP Suicopath XD meme.
If she wasn't, she would be Azki tier in popularity now.

>> No.48197979
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Looks like vshojo was trying to rip veibae off.

>> No.48197980

>>48197912
Are you traumatized by the term holopro?

>> No.48198008

>>48197770
>It’s clear as day what’s needed for them to incline
be good at Apex?

>> No.48198017

>>48196258
There unironically are

>> No.48198025

>>48197730
I mean isnt that what happened when you slash the concert budget?

>> No.48198049

>>48197980
I do know people properly call them stars until omegatroon lead the way for the troons to call them holopro.

>> No.48198070

>>48197979
why would you even publicly say this...

>> No.48198071

>>48197979
What's the over/under on Gunrun trying to pay them in backpacks?

>> No.48198074

>>48197979
Sounds like she's been getting ripped off for years and only now found out cause she got a lawyer to review the contract instead of just trust me bro.

>> No.48198084

>>48197979
Aieeeee vshitshow bros

>> No.48198130

>>48196258
>>48198017
If these people here are the experts that we had in the country no wonder economy has always been shit. They don't know what they are talking about all the time.

>> No.48198159

>>48197979
How would one go about contacting a "vtuber lawyer"?

>> No.48198167

>>48197979
>starts dating twitch royalty
>gets involved in with the twitch illuminati
>suddenly realizes vshojo was jewing her over for years
I predict we're about to see more Mythic talent signings in the near future

>> No.48198175

>>48198070
to warn anyone that may want to join that black fucking company. they got nazuna already with their bullshit because she trusted a friend instead of doing her contract properly.

>> No.48198181

>>48197937
>like with the fan cafe ones and clamping down on en fanmerch
Talking about the ONLive con one? Kinda weird that anycolor threatened them only after making the fanmerch, it kinda seems like a repeat of what happened with those indofags and bday merch.

>> No.48198186

>>48197979
But Kson told me there is no cons in joining VShojo.
I guess she got scammed by the freedom meme.

>> No.48198190

Didn't someone invest 11M to Vshojo? They must be crying now.

>> No.48198198

>>48198074
>Merch numbers start to come out for Hololive members
>Vei realizes how RAW she's been getting fucked over by Vshojo's "we take all your merch money" deal, gets a lawyer to review shit.

>> No.48198234

>>48198070
Veibae always speaks her mind.
>>48198159
You just get a normal contract lawyer.

>> No.48198249

>>48198186
for kson there are no cons since nazuna was the one that got screwed

>> No.48198252

>>48197979
Reminds me of Kaguya Luna poisoning and Sony vtubing project forever.

>> No.48198254

>>48197979
oof... vshoGO defense force gonna have to work OT

>> No.48198256

>>48198190
That has to be the worst spent 11M dollars ever. The fuck did it even get put towards? The backpacks?

>> No.48198302

Miko guerilla?

>> No.48198315

>>48198190
>>48198256
didnt 90% of that go to that streaming backpack project shit or is that DOA also?

>> No.48198322

>>48198198
Soda does a lot of community merch runs too so she probably learned from him too

>> No.48198326

>>48198198
Even a drooling retard that lives in a mud hut in Laos and posts here could tell you a deal where the company takes ALL your merch money is stupid. You don't need a lawyer to know that.

>> No.48198335

>>48198186
Kson probably got the best contract possible along with a signing bonus.

>> No.48198406

>>48198186
Maybe because Japanese corpo standard like Cover's were harsher compare to western industry standard

>> No.48198418

>>48198256
Some of that definitely went to several new live2d models they got. Even the male Kson model

>> No.48198429

>>48198159
I think even an entertainment lawyer is more than enough. Even if her form is a vtuber, it is still the same shit at the end of the day, which is entertainment gig.

>> No.48198457

>>48198326
Literally what the fuck does Vshojo even give them, I genuinely do not understand

>> No.48198459

>>48198335
I thought she also doesn't have a cut for the merch?

>> No.48198473

>>48198418
Didnt mouse say that those came out of their pocket?

>> No.48198494

>>48197770
I’m no idol shill but Rin might be the world’s greatest vtuber
Rin Penrose 】
[YouTube] https://www.youtube.com/@rinpenrose
[Twitter] https://twitter.com/RinPenrose

>> No.48198510

>>48198256
Posters in Tokyo

>> No.48198519

>>48198190
>someone
It was Venture Capital from California, for tech startups.
Meaning, money laundering.

>> No.48198528

>>48197979
We've been screaming at them about this merch shit for over a year and the Vshills always just deflected to MUH FREEDUMZ. Would love to see how kson tries to damage control this one.

>> No.48198531

>>48198457
they give them a twitter icon

>> No.48198533

>>48198459
They dont get cut for Vshojo merch but Vshojo also doesnt get a cut for their personal merch.

>> No.48198562

>>48198418
They buy their own models.

>> No.48198579

>>48198533
Yeah that was how Kson explain it. I don't think that is a good deal personally.

>> No.48198595

>>48197979
it's not looking good vshojobros...

>> No.48198605

i want to fuck her mom

>> No.48198606

>>48197878
Midnight grand orchestra is Suisei’s album

>> No.48198626

>>48198457
Legal protection

>> No.48198632

>Silvervale and Veibae both leaving while shitting on either vshojo or the people in there
Wasn't this the inevitable conclusion to a woman talent agency without men and NDAs keeping them in line?

>> No.48198636

>>48198457
Check the replies from >>48153085 and >>48156805

>> No.48198646

>noteven 8k for mori karaoke
tough mamamori karaokes are alwasy kinda meh

>>48197979
how is /vsj/ taking it?

>> No.48198683

>>48198579
Its a retarded cut especially when vshojo really doesnt have brand power or merch power since most of their vtubers are islands

>> No.48198696

>>48193981
>be Gamma
>join Rust for the first time
>have 3 girls actually wait for you to log in and even follow you around for 5 hours
That's an automatic +3k ccv already. Dude can be Roberu but better

>> No.48198710

>>48198646
Anon the fucking karaoke is still going why do you do this? Do you want to grudgepost yourself?

>> No.48198712

>>48196258
>m-muh experts with 30 years of experience
nigga we're talking about anime girls playing MC, not quantum mechanics. Nothing wrong with some long time fans metafagging a bit and using some data to prove their points.
Hell personally I worked in a bit in marketing, nothing too crazy but you're a fool if you believe that it's some hard science or that Vtubers aren't a new phenomena and that someone who worked in a marketing position for an hardware store would have better insight than an actual hardcore fan who keeps an eye on the larger picture.

>> No.48198747

How can we save holoen?

>> No.48198776

>>48198457
>Vshojo even give them, I genuinely do not understand
The same can be applied to hololive what does hololive gives you in the long run. Vshojo at least allows you keep your model once you leave hololive you will have nothing.

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GOOGLECHAMA?

>> No.48198788

>>48198636
>con presence
funny thing is that with the new ceo being more chummy with otv than with gunrun compared to the old one, that con presence perk might be a lot better in mythic

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>>48197979
FAKE BITCH, WE GOT LEGAL SUPPORT HERE

>> No.48198820

>>48198747
It's unsalvageable for now. If what chicken said was true, thinking they can fuck off with their deadlines means they don't have any kind of commitment or compromise.

>> No.48198829

>>48198747
give them antidepressants, adderall and cocaine

>> No.48198841

>>48198710
is a really slow growth
we are 40 min in

>> No.48198851

>>48198808
>safety support
>did fuck all during the hogwarts drama

>> No.48198879

>>48198841
All it takes is for one of the two bozos to finish

>> No.48198906

>>48198606
I know.

>> No.48198912

>>48198712
Not to mention we've seen numerous vtuber companies completely fuck everything up and go under. This is not really a "don't worry everyone knows what they're doing" situation. Does mean we're always right but it always doesn't mean these people running these things are always right either.

>> No.48198923

>>48198851
>our legal team already advised her to not play the hogwarts game, but alas she went ahead and play it anyway

>> No.48198942

>>48198776
Kson please. Cover gives you literally everything, including the model, the brand name that insta levels you up beyond your shitterdom past life (vshojo doesn't do this they just recruit you if you're popular), gives you good merch cuts, real sponsorship opportunities, concerts, 3d

>> No.48198946

>>48198782
oh nyo...

>> No.48198951

>>48198776
Holos can give lowtiers like Aki personal wine merch and several sponsors lining up.

>> No.48198966

Youtube isn’t notifying me for streams again. Useless fucking pajeets

>> No.48198988

>>48198776
>The same can be applied to hololive
Not even close, Vcuck.
>what does hololive gives you
Merch that they can profit from, for one.

>> No.48198990

>>48198942
All that at what cost? For her to be a slave? I am glad that she got her freedom.

>> No.48199025

>>48193982
>It's OK if JP did it

>> No.48199037

>>48197979
Vshojo is such a joke kek

>> No.48199048

numbers at this hour?

>> No.48199051

>>48198942
>becoming cover slave
ohnononono

>> No.48199063

>Wactor taking first place of the black company challenge
>Vshojo, Phase, Nijisanji and Kawaii trying to fighting over 2nd 3rd and 4th place of wwhos more blacker
How the fuck does this keep happening to Hololive

>> No.48199068

>>48197979
I don’t know how stupid you have to be to give someone the rights to monetize your ip and give you nothing. That’s nothing on nendos, con merch, website merch, specialty merch, all based on a model owned by them not to mention the cut on sponsorships. Even nijisanji gives a cut even if it’s small and they don’t have to because they own the model. If you called this out before kson’s fans that stalk every thread and comment section would call you a chink

>> No.48199081

>>48199025
....when did JP do it?

>> No.48199084

Bae has never played a single Super Mario game, so she's in the Ina camp of being fucking worthless in the tourney. IRyS and Fauna are the last hope.

>> No.48199095

>>48198879
nah mamaori just suck singing
even when mori was still getting 20k that mamaori karoke was just like 10k if i recall.

>> No.48199097

>>48199048
HoloEN domination

>> No.48199099

>>48199025
I don't think any JP went to the management and beg "please put out an official announcement that allow me to collab with the homos".

>> No.48199121

>>48198923
>Her actions beyond that point is outside of VShojo's legal protection

>> No.48199132

>>48194467
>unironically because some retards high up still thinks that physical sales means something in the music scene
Anon please, that's the only cope Japan has left when it comes to market relevancy

>> No.48199151

>>48199095
Sucking at singing has literally never mattered otherwise Fauna would be getting Kiara tier karaoke numbers

>> No.48199167

>>48199095
The first MamaMori was 20k but the QandA right before was like 23k

>> No.48199185

>>48198528
>Would love to see how kson tries to damage control this one

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1651409977024872448?s=20

TL: Vshojo is great cause you can quit if you no longer agree with the contract!

>> No.48199188

>>48198942
Cover does not give them the model. They only let them use it. The model is still Cover's.

>> No.48199195
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48199195

damn, kson is like Eren in how much she talks about freedom

>> No.48199206

>>48198788
The twitch CEO’s answer to discovery issues on twitch is literally
>just collab with the big streamers duh

>> No.48199209

>>48198990
>>48199051
anon veibae from what veibae has revealed vshojo kinda feels like advanced slavery
like indentured servants

>> No.48199251

Should just graduate all of the 3views NijiEN already, this is embarrasing

>> No.48199260

>>48199084
>IRyS
Have you watched her play Mega Man?

>> No.48199276

>>48199084
Has Fauna played a single platformer on stream? Not counting GOI and Jump King obviously. At least Irys has played Megaman. Fauna doesn't even have any sort of practice stream scheduled so far either, so I'm not expecting much.

>> No.48199278

>>48198942
>3d
But does Cover have Super3D? Checkmate freedomphobe

>> No.48199289

>>48199188
What a retarded correction. I didn't say they permanently give them the fucking model, in the same way your workplace gives you car, no one would read that as "you are permanently granted a vehicle by your employer, have fun!".

>> No.48199303
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femsapling?!

>> No.48199307

>>48199132
not just japan some asian agencies are still in that retarded phase

>> No.48199308

>>48198130
I don’t know what’s dumber that you think the music industry is what’s holding up the economy, or that you confuse being involved with being the ceo of a huge music conglomerate

>> No.48199310

>>48199084
I believe in Fauna. Please be the one non embarassment from EN. Or next time there wont be an invite

>> No.48199329

>>48198808
>SAFETY
>Silvervale left for dead because of wizard game
lmao. and why do they need a legal team? aside from getting copywrite or DMCA takedown what kind of shit does your average streamer need to lawyer up for and why isnt a problem for even bigger streamers?

>> No.48199339

waiting for notZaion to pull a Veibae

>> No.48199349
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48199349

>>48199278
fugggggggggggggggg........

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48199352

>>48195512

>> No.48199378

>>48198966
so thats why numbers are low
they would have had better viewership if youtube didnt deliberately sabotage them

>> No.48199405

>>48199276
Closest thing was that one game she played with Ame/Mori/Sana. And she was decently good at it. She also wanted to play Mario Maker before too but it's one of the many games that slipped her mind because she's kind of dumb like that.

>> No.48199412

>>48198406
Cover is indeed harsher with NDA, no joining other corp for certain time after graduation?, seizing the model after talent left the company, high cut on SC etc. But they make it up for it with guaranteed success through their brand's power, which afforded them considerable negotiation power. Many other corpos especially western one started after Vtuber/Hololive broke through the global market. In order to acquire their starting talents while having no brand power, they were forced to come up with a much more favorable contract to attract new hire, remember Cyberlive? They allow graduated talent to take their model and persona with them. These corpo contracts are today industry standard on the west

>> No.48199426

>>48199329
Certainly not permissions lol. Imagine if Vshojo ever got big into japan, big enough for jap companies to holocaust them with perms

>> No.48199438

>>48199063
I've seen it before, Hololive literally has some divine luck or something. Yagoo probably saved a god before founding Cover, because even when HoloEN starts to dig their own graves, it's almost like every other corpo decides to bring a fucking Caterpillar.

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48199457

8k get

>> No.48199461

>>48198776
>Vshojo at least allows you keep your model once you leave
>keep
You mean the model they own before joining? At least wait for Nazuna's graduation before saying this.

>> No.48199463

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdBpodrSvEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdBpodrSvEA
Gold

>> No.48199467

>>48199329
its even more funny considering their legal team will be useless against jap corps since they can just sue the vtuber directly since they themselves are the owner of the ip

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48199468

>>48199251
Damn

>> No.48199475

>>48198696
Be rin gain 200k subs now have 2k ccv and rising
Rin Penrose 】
[YouTube] https://www.youtube.com/@rinpenrose
[Twitter] https://twitter.com/RinPenrose

>> No.48199484

>Mori unarchived karaoke
>with mom buff
>sub 10k
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GURA PLEASE COME BACK AND SHOW US NUMBERS

>> No.48199503

>>48199167
Yeah i recall they losing viewership on that one.

>> No.48199514

>>48199463
Anon? Have you SEEN his other undertale streams?

>> No.48199518

>>48199412
Cover is more lenient that Anycolor. Mori’s rm is signed to another fucking agency and Cover gives zero shits meanwhile Anycolor stalks their talents rm to see if they’re saying anything negative about the company.

>> No.48199519

>>48199484
time to bully gura into streaming again

>> No.48199533

>>48199405
If she goes tryhard and practices she'd probably be pretty good, we'll see I suppose.

>> No.48199547

>>48199412
>seizing the model after talent left the company
Nigger what does this mean. Its their model, they ain't seizing shit.

Really curious to see the high and mighty vshitshow and what they're going to do if nazuna leaves, since Nazuna's model is actually vshitshow's. Are they going to generously give it to her? Doubt it, they won't even allow her to stream off twitch.

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48199552

>>48199463
Dyrbi?

>> No.48199557

>>48199289
I know what you meant. But Ksonkeks will respond about Cover not allowing her to get the dragon model. I gotta put some nuance.

>> No.48199616
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48199616

The freedom to live in your head for the rest of your life.

>> No.48199617

>>48199412
Cyberlive's model is not standard, in fact no one else has followed it because it was stupid in the first place. Most agencies just copy the Niji/Holo model. 50/50 revenue split, company owns the model and character IP. Phase is like this. Idol, for all it's bragging about how great they are, follows this model. Kawaii follows it. Prism followed it and presumably still does under Sony. Even Tsunderia followed it until they started to fall apart then were willing to sell off models to talents as they left because they needed the cash.

>> No.48199648

>>48199616
Nice cope Cuckson

>> No.48199688

>>48199185
She's just salty she didn't get to keep the titty dragon.

>> No.48199700

Why are people ignoring the fact that you can just commission nearly identical model from the same artist after graduation? Just look at Lulu and Kson. Even one of my indies, Lulu's sister did this.

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48199703

>>48199412
>seizing the model after talent left the company,
Isnt that what happened to that phase invader after she was fired from phase even though sge owned the model and will also likely happen to nazunas model as well if she abandons vshojo?

>> No.48199723

>>48199617
Anyone with a pulse saw CyberLive dying from a mile away cause of that clause.

>> No.48199742

>>48199703
>Isnt that what happened to that phase invader
yes
>and will also likely happen to nazunas model
no

>> No.48199751

>>48199616
Nice number btw.
But she is the one bringing out the controversial ideas. She will be mentioned of course.

>> No.48199755

>>48199352
The wall gets 10ft higher every time someone mentions EN3

>> No.48199787

>>48199468
Homochads, we won

>> No.48199826

Bae is around 3k for a just chatting stream with overlap, that's almost as good as Fauna's right?

>> No.48199855

>>48199742
how so? since currently vshojo owns nazunas model since she supposedly only gets it after she quits vshojo and im assuming thats under the provision that its an amicable one

>> No.48199879

>>48199688
She's been insanely salty about that for years and its sad. You can tell in her brain she feels like she owned that model, and that when she left she didn't really care cause she thought "they'll follow me for me!". But reality came crashing down.

>> No.48199883

>>48199855
Nazuna owns Nazuna's model

>> No.48199938

>>48199826
You can't compare when one is labeled [chatting] even if she's reading SCs and the other one is blatantly labeled SC reading.

>> No.48199945

>>48199700
It can't be *that* close, and you can't use the same name or you're risking a lawsuit. I can't just go out and commission Nacho for Goor Goorah the indigo shark girl any more than a restaurant can have Donald McRonald be their mascot.

>> No.48199952

>>48199883
not really since people were able to find ksons model and copyright for her model in that jap copyright website but vshojofags never produced nazunas which means her ip is stateside

>> No.48199972

>>48199879
It was funny reading the comments regarding the fighting game when they announced Coco.
Everyone hyped as hell about the “legendary Coco” but those same people don’t really care about Kson. They see them as separate people.

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48199981

>>48199438
It took a bit before I understood what you meant by Caterpillar.

>> No.48199985

>>48199938
what?? how is that different?

>> No.48200002

>>48199883
I gotta need a source for that.

>> No.48200019

>>48199700
because jap copyright laws can fuck you in the ass

>> No.48200038

>>48199985
[Chatting] Is a zatsu.
[SC Reading] Is a fucking SC reading, even if most of the time the talent tangents

>> No.48200046

>>48199412
>no joining other corp for certain time after graduation
Just like the other companies
>seizing the model after talent left the company
The model is owned by Cover, it's their IP
>high cut on SC
Industry standard cut and negotiable after the first year

>> No.48200050

>>48199945
Look at Fubuki's sisters. Also, almost all of Nacho's models are the same, just change the colors. And Don't get me started on Fauna's sisters.

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>> No.48200075

>>48200002
they produced a source for kson but never nazunas iircs

>> No.48200093

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1651421738071375872
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1651421738071375872
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1651421738071375872
>Get rid of Ina and Gura
Ogey, Cover.

>> No.48200094

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1651421738071375872
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1651421738071375872

>> No.48200126

>>48200074
>scarle 2view
pls tell me thats edited or a raid sponsor

>> No.48200152

>>48200093
>>48200094
BASED BASED BASED

>> No.48200161

>>48200093
>fuck those lazy whores
Marine finally gave up

>> No.48200162

>>48200093
BASED BASED BASED

>> No.48200185

>>48200093
>>48200094
watch as jpnogs suddenly praise and love umisea as the best thing ever

>> No.48200195

>>48199952
Nice source
>>48200002
Nazuna, Kson, VshojoJP's CEO

>> No.48200199

>>48200093
>jap restaurant wants jap only sponsorship
anon i dont get it

>> No.48200212

>>48200094
>>48200093
At this point I'm 100% sure EN is being torched to the ground by everyone involved.

>> No.48200217

>>48200093
I guess it's not practical for Gura and Ina to promote a Hokkaido seafood company in the domestic JP market.

>> No.48200222

>>48200046
Lamy renegotiated her SC within a few months.

>> No.48200254

>>48200195
>Nice source
what source? vshojofags never produced nazunas copyright while being able to produce ksons one

>> No.48200264

>>48200199
Isn't Gura super popular in nipland?

>> No.48200267

>>48200185
I love umisea and it is the best thing ever.

>> No.48200269

>>48200093
>>48200094
kek

>> No.48200291

>>48199260
IRyS is the type that can brute force her way to respectability.

>> No.48200315

>>48200254
>what source?
Good question.

>> No.48200324

>>48200264
Yeah, she was popular when she was streaming.

>> No.48200328

>>48200222
>bold enough to renegotiate her SC a few months after joining
>lets herself get browbeaten by her manager into not doing collabs
I don't get Lamy. Seems like a schizo.

>> No.48200349

>>48200195
>Nazuna, Kson, VshojoJP's CEO
source? cause if its a verbal agreement like with ksons "vshojo will protect you from harassers" then its probably shit considering they did fuckall with the hogwarts harassment and death threats for both their vtubers

>> No.48200350

>>48200093
Even Marine can't save those lazyasses.
>>48200222
Nah it's longer than that. A year is more likely.

>> No.48200366

>>48199475
>actually doing it unironically...
>jew...

>> No.48200369

>>48200093
it's hard doing project when they aren't streaming and also not doing cover related things pls andastando

>> No.48200392

>>48199412
>>48198406
Slave terms
>NDA-They can talk about everything except their secret identity or cover projects. Personal ones can be spoken about.
>No working for the competition is a normal clause in the west but Nazuna goes against that theory so idk
>SC cuts are 30ish percent as youtube leaves you at 70. Cover also allows you to 100 times what you made before
>You get a cut of all merch even if you’re not involved
>Manager
>Builds you up
>Pays for your project
>Doesn’t let you keep the model you didn’t pay for
>Camaraderie

Non slave contact
>Company is allowed to use your ip to make money and give you nothing
>You can only join if you’re already successful
>Leave you stuck on one platform
>Takes a cut of the sponsors it gives you
>Allows you to be a slut without twitch banning you
>All sc
>No camaraderie
>NDA
>Pay for your own manager
>You can keep the model you paid for

>> No.48200398

>>48200291
Given enough time. It's a tournament for a game she's never played as far as we know.

>> No.48200423

>>48200093
>>48200094
>Gets rid of Ina and Gura
>Keeps Aqua
Why is she like this?

>> No.48200429

>>48200349
The stream where Nazuna and Kson talk about Vshojo, she mentions she owns her model. Also the CEO interview.

>> No.48200430

>>48200315
so vshojo still hasnt produced nazunas copyright huh

>> No.48200464

>>48199484
>minecraft
>jump king
>unarchived karaoke

at least she's trying

>> No.48200483

>>48198159
Streamer contracts have been a thing for 15 years bro, its not exactly new

>> No.48200502

>>48200195
If Nazuna were to have right for her model she would've take it and bail a long time ago.

>> No.48200525

>>48200392
>Pays for your project
Everything else you posted is fine, but this is not true for the majority of projects.

>> No.48200548

>>48200429
the same stream where kson said that vshojo will protect their vtubers from harassments? yeah that aged pretty well so unless vshojo fags managed to find nazunas copyright like they did with kson and her shop its all promises

>> No.48200563

>>48200093
>>48200094
Holy based. Fuck the lazy EN whores. Glad Marine finally opened her eyes and see how much of a bitch they are and removed them

>> No.48200597

>>48200093
I mean, isn't this why they made Umisea Jay Pee? For JP related sponsorships?
Not like full umisea wasn't in that shrine maiden collab literally days why does this place have a goldfish memory?

>> No.48200598

Damn. Gura talked about all the deadlines and they are stressed about it. They are not even in this umisea project this time. Marine is pretty busy but she still made time to organize a VA audition skit and stream zatsudan for her fans. I don't know how many excuses can chumbies find for their lazy shork.

>> No.48200637

>>48193322
tfw you collabed with homos and now nobody will pay 500% markup for your merch

At least she got the daki out of the way early

>> No.48200663

>>48200597
They're literally removing the two girls and remixing the fucking song.

>> No.48200672

>>48200050
I don’t get what you’re arguing?

>> No.48200684

>>48200597
Gura is just way more busy with multiple big projects.

>> No.48200702
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48200702

How can we save them?

>> No.48200707

>>48200423
akwa is cute

>> No.48200720

>>48200663
What the fuck are you talking about? It says they're getting a new song.

>> No.48200721

>>48200392
>Takes a cut of the sponsors it gives you
vshojos sponsor cut is the same as their merch cut where vshojo gets everything for sponsors the find themselves and the vtuber gets everything for the ones they find themselves
its one of the things vei threw shade at vshojo when she signed with mythic and also the reason why ironmouse signed with that other company when it comes to sponsorship and promotions

>> No.48200734

ENSharts status?

>> No.48200747

>>48199484
This is more about Mori's individual recline than it is about EN's recline.

>> No.48200764

>>48200702
Collab with holo

>> No.48200780

>>48200430
Waiting for you to provide the proof from those mysterious "fags"
>>48200502
Two more weeks
>>48200548
Are these "vshojo fags" in the room with us right now?

>> No.48200786

>>48200195
if that was true miguel would have left the monet she got that twitch contract since she hated it

>> No.48200802

>>48200598
I wouldn't be surprised if EN management is making the girls do a bunch of shit that leads to nothing.

>> No.48200813

>>48200423
>she
what?
are you retarded to think this is marine's project and not cover's?

>> No.48200818

>>48200707
Gura is cuter tho

>> No.48200835

>guys Le Heckin Based Tranny Silver is like totally gonna join Hololive now because her friend Ame is there!
She ripped both Hololive by name and fans alike last night. Stop trying.

>> No.48200842

>>48200734
Shattered and heartbroken over the Umisea breakup.

>> No.48200843

>>48200598
The excuse is that she is a lazy shork and whenever she gets big workloads that affects her more than the others cause she can do less (due to lazyness).

>> No.48200845

>>48200663
its a new song for the jap restaurant anon

>> No.48200848

>>48200786
>source: crackpipe

>> No.48200858

>>48200598
I will step up your bait
Damn. All of EN have talked about how busy they are and that's why they are barely streaming and they haven't been in any event or promotion or campaign
Why are this bitches such liars and lazy

>> No.48200873

>>48200734
Earning more than all of JP

>> No.48200874

>>48200093
>Even Marine gave up hope for Gura
Its over ENbros.

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48200902

>>48200126
it looks like this now

>> No.48200942

can't wait for a fucking restaurant in hokkaido to drive more discussion than all the vshit and phaseshit that went around those past days. total organic.

>> No.48200946

>>48200423
Aqua is cute and can sing

>> No.48200969

>>48200423
RABU RABU ONYAN

>> No.48200979

>>48200874
>marine decides what sponsorships the unit takes and who the sponsors ask for
huh?
And again, full Umisea was literally in a sponsorship days ago.

>> No.48200978

>>48200902
Holy 3 view hell

>> No.48200986

>>48200212
And thats a good thing

>> No.48200991

>>48200423
This is why no one likes you ENsharts holy shit

>> No.48200995

>>48200525
Covers, 3Ds, certain events all come with a budget. And based on their completely arbitrary standards of whether you have penis or will use your 3D to shill the stars they offer to pay for a lot of things

>> No.48201004

>>48200979
doesn't count

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>>48200780
>Are these "vshojo fags" in the room with us right now?
No but they were here when just after kson joined vshojo and announced her physical pop up store last year and managed to post proof that kson still owns her own identity with that jap copyright website which is why I believed them.
Cant say the same for their rrat about Nazuna owning the rights to her model though since the only proof they presented was the lip service stream.
Pretty weird to claim that the guys that actually proved Kson still owned his brand and merch were not vshojofags according to your standards

>> No.48201029

>>48200328
Her manager probably encouraged her to do so. I wonder if managers do get a cut too kek.

>> No.48201035

>>48200942
We went over those yesterday. Cope more, shart.

>> No.48201047

>>48200818
not true

>> No.48201049

>>48200979
Umisea is Marines project. She signs off on what they do, not Cover.

>> No.48201059

Hokkaido fucking hate foreigner, of course they will request Cover to cut off those filthy gaijin for their promotion

>> No.48201107

>>48201059
Don't you dare say my orca is not smelly and filthy.

>> No.48201121

>>48201049
why lie nigger?

>> No.48201144

>>48200721
What value does vshojo have then?

>> No.48201164

>>48200858
>Kiara Takanashi:81 hours streamed
>Mori Calliope: 77 hours streamed
>Fauna and Kronii both over 50 hours streamed

>> No.48201178

>>48201049
Anon, that is a very very retarded statement. Umisea started as a unit Marine did, yes, but Cover immediately got in on that and merchandised their asses. I can assure you Marine is not sending out Umisea emails looking for sponsors.

>> No.48201187

>>48196606
>>48196685
Fans know what THEY want, and it's fine of they themselves are the only person that's needed to be pleased
Doesn't work like that when you scale it up to millions

>> No.48201195

>>48201059
They only hate chinks, not all foreigners, you dumb ESL chink.

>> No.48201196

>>48200874
What about the stream tomorrow that includes gura?

>> No.48201222

>>48200093
>>48200094
>Ina and Gura have even less work now
>Umisea can start doing projects
Everyone wins except schizo enfags

>> No.48201259

>>48201195
Based. I knew Hokkaido like SEAchads.

>> No.48201268
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>> No.48201269

>>48201144
Only actual value they have is "legal protection" since their so called protection from harassment was a fucking joke
which is probably why the others signed on to mythic since they got the same legal protection + actually getting connected to sponsorships and collbs.

>> No.48201283

>>48201022
Kson registered a copyright for her model because she made her own merch with it. All of Nazuna's merch is Vshojo merch.

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