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>be Mike the cat
>blow up your highly successful career trying to prove you're not fucking an alien
>fat asian-american friend who left the same company you got fired from convinces you to sign on with an American "agency"
>get fucked over by not reading a contract that hinders your ability to stream on your preferred platform, youtube
>new company is now falling apart because of trans shit
she really can't catch a break.

>> No.48173162

>>48173013
>get fucked over by not reading a contract that hinders your ability to stream on your preferred platform, youtube
Sauce?

>> No.48173281 [DELETED] 
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48173281

Lets be real she probably was fucking him but even if she wasn't she still did this to herself all she had to do was shut the fuck up and let it blow over.

>> No.48173331

>>48173013
why'd she replace this SEX model with not one but two downgrades

>> No.48173346

>>48173162
https://youtu.be/KvQ1_3q_d4Q

>> No.48173386

>>48173346
Kson later admitted she was wrong and didn't understand the situation correctly herself.

>> No.48173429

>>48173162
That's how twitch partner is if you get a higher cut. They don't allow you to stream on YT or it'll be considered breach of contract.
>>48173346

>> No.48173448

>>48173346
>>48173429
Well that contract money better be worth it, I guess considering what Twitch has become and will become.

>> No.48173511

>>48173162
she, as nazuna, stated shes contractually forbidden from streaming on youtube as nazuna

>> No.48173575

can't find clip of nazuna saying her contract doesnt allow it could be that mikecat said it in twitcast - mind you ive never heard it myself, so i shall not claim truth to it

>> No.48173595

>>48173511
She's wrong. Kson could never LIE.

>> No.48173645

>>48173013
So what. She always fucks up and always gets fucked up and she always comes back with minimal damage. Why do people still care.

>> No.48173705
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48173705

>>48173346
>Trusting Kekson in year 2023
NGMI

>> No.48173807

>>48173386
Kind of weird that she'd be wrong because that's not a Nazuna-specific thing.

As far as I know, if you're a Twitch partner, which Nazuna decided to be, you're not allowed to stream on YT

>> No.48173818

>>48173281
Lets be honest you don't know japanese or they culture

>> No.48173900

>>48173645
>minimal damage
anon her Nazuna numbers, to my knowledge, are a fraction of her green-haired GFE era numbers, no?

She's by no means struggling, but she definitely had significant damage.

>> No.48173917

>>48173013
This post is proof that for most people their initial impression is their permanent baseline view of a person.
Imagine thinking Mike was unlucky in life.

>> No.48174162

>>48173429
>>48173807
Twitch partners can stream on YouTube. They just can't simultaneously stream to both Twitch and YouTube
https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/partner-exclusivity-faq?language=en_US

>> No.48174553

>>48173575
go watch her streams then, clipfaggot

>> No.48174800

>>48173807
kson herself became a twitch partner after they changed/clarified the rule that you can stream on both

>> No.48174855

>>48173645
>minimal damage
faggot, as Rushia she was literally number 1 superchat in the WORLD and still hold the most superchat total even now. Nazuna will never reach those numbers again.

>> No.48174996

She's not going to renew her contract with Vhoejo. Cat model made more money and Kekson + VhoejoJP is not worth shit in the long run.

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48175050

>>48173705
>>48174855
This you?

>> No.48175118

>>48173013
>she really can't catch a break.
Good.

>> No.48175140

>>48175050
that is you faggot.

>> No.48175255

>>48174553
if you fags watched streams people wouldnt need to find clips to proof your spoonfeeding requests, same with the kson shit where she said she wouldnt join another corp and people that werent here for it yell about wanting proof because THEY werent there and didnt hear it, hilarious.

>> No.48175345

>>48173595
nothing to do with kson, its what nazuna said

>> No.48175401

>>48173346
Saying "how was I supposed to know" isn't a defense.

>> No.48175408

>>48175255
>just watch every stream ever bro
or how about you just post any sort of proof?

>> No.48175495

>>48175140
pretty sure thats you because you keep seething about rushia

>> No.48175601

>>48173013
>Mike the Cat...
>Miguel el Gato...
>Michel le Chat...
I used to despise her, now I just feel bad.
>So are yo-
No.

>> No.48175643

>>48175255
>same with the kson shit where she said she wouldnt join another corp
She never said that, but feel free to prove me wrong.

>> No.48175835

It's confirmed that Cover is behind her not being allowed to stream on youtube but holokeks spent so long insulting vshojo and/or twitch over it that they will never admit that it's their company's fault.

>> No.48175963

>>48175835
She streamed horror kusoge 3 days ago.

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>>48175643

>> No.48175990

Has she said anything about two girls she doesn't know leaving the company that she is now a part of? kek

>> No.48176018

>>48175643
not my problem if you didnt follow her back then newfag

>> No.48176059

>>48175495
pretty sure because you are a faggot.

>> No.48176112

>>48176018
I've been watching her streams since 2019.

>> No.48176258

Mikeneko I love you so much. I adore your mere existence and the time we have been able to spend together.

>> No.48176313

>>48175835
The only people who know the actual answer can't talk about it publicly due to NDAs.

>> No.48176620

>>48175643
>>48175979
>never heard of it, too dumb to search for it, so it must be false
different anon here, tatsunoko too, she did said she don't plan to join another corp. she took a month break after Coco left, came back as Kson, chat had a lot of questions for her, whether she plan to join another company was one of them, she said she have no plan for one but never said never. If you fags want clips go search felix or kson clips, 2 dead clippers, i heard it on stream but they very likely clipped it.

>> No.48176784

>>48176620
i saw that stream too retard
that's not what that guy claimed she said

>> No.48176805

>>48176620
I think it was the first membership stream after graduation which was specifically to clear up rumors and to ask tatsus not to cause a fuss - tho you're propably right in that she didnt say never

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48176953

Talent Freedom doesn't cover Platform Freedom

>> No.48177195

>>48176784
you faggots are just going 6 is 9, 9 is 6, go piss on each other in the corner or something.

>> No.48177272

>>48176313
There's only 3 possibilities
1. Vshojo - It doesn't make any business sense for them to limit her audience, they're a merch selling company. The CEO said it's not their doing as well.
2. Twitch - They no longer have the exclusivity clause, except in special contracts give to huge streamers who have 5x her views minimum. And even then the exclusivity is not a secret.
3. The competitor vtuber company who uses youtube that she just left on bad terms.
Literally only one possibility makes the slightest bit of sense.

>> No.48177389

>>48173013
Don't forget she BTFO'd her unicorns to conform to vshojo. She cant catch a break.

>> No.48177563

>>48177389
Last I checked, about two weeks ago, she read a comment saying "you should collab with men" in the same sort of frustrated voice that you'd read an anti comment out in.

>> No.48177680

>>48177272
>YouTube
See, according to Nazuna, she could have debuted on YouTube. It was a choice. She said that debuting on Twitch is what locked her out of YouTube. She also said that, if she knew what she knew now, she wouldn't have chosen to debut on Twitch. One of these pieces of knowledge seems to be the fact that the Japanese were far slower to adopt Twitch than she had expected.
So unless Cover's clause stated something like
>you can debut on a different platform, but only one
this makes absolutely zero sense. On top of that, she can YouTube just fine on Mikeneko.

>> No.48177716

>>48177563
It doesn't matter how frustrated she pretends to be, she collabed with men and talks to plenty of them in private.

>> No.48177751

>>48177563
Most of this thread are EOPs who don't watch her streams. They hear a rrat, can't tell if it is true, and pass it back and forth between each other like the blind men at the bottom of the well.

>> No.48177790

>>48173013
Whats Juan Leon up to lately anyway?

>> No.48177848

>>48176620
>>48176805
In a membership stream after Coco announced her graduation, chat said "join Noripro". Coco said no, and then that she'll *probably* never join another corp. She then joked that she can't work underneath other people because she's a top not a bottom. Taishi didn't translate the joke correctly, because he never translates her sex jokes due to the fact that he's a Christian angel. /vt/sisters only saw the screenshot of the bad translation and didn't know she was joking even though it's obvious by her tone.

This is the crux of what holofags seethe at Kson for being a "traitor" over, a lewd joke she made 2 years ago.

>> No.48177862

>>48177680
again you keep posting this retarded theory based on nitpicking the words the translator chose to use

>> No.48177945

>>48177862
She's literally said this twice, on two separate streams, months apart. You can't fumble this entirely down to a TL error.

>> No.48177996

>>48177389
lol just last month I was being told she yelled at all the anti-unicorns and told them to fuck off
which is it??

>> No.48178035

>>48177751
No one watches long clips dude

>> No.48178268

>>48177996
The BTFO unicorns thing was a Nazuna stream she did while manic, raging on her period, and mad at one(maybe more?) of her big donors I think. She made up with him, called herself an idol, and acted like it never happened the very next stream.

>> No.48178294

>>48177680
>See, according to Nazuna, she could have debuted on YouTube. It was a choice.
Let me revise my post then.
There's only 3 possibilities for who would lock Nazuna to using a single platform of her choosing
1. Vshojo - It doesn't make any business sense for them to limit her audience, they're a merch selling company. The CEO said it's not their doing as well.
2. Twitch - They no longer have the exclusivity clause, except in special contracts give to huge streamers who have 5x her views minimum. And even then the exclusivity is not a secret. Additionally it doesn't make any sense for Twitch to block someone from using them and force them to only use a competitor, unless Twitch doesn't want her and she's banned from the platform, and she is not banned on Twitch. So we can rule that out.
3. The competitor vtuber company that she just left on bad terms.
Literally only one possibility makes the slightest bit of sense.

>> No.48178318

>>48177996
Both. She collabed with men and had to go through a schizo meltdown from her unicorns so she did what she could to keep them around.

>> No.48178475

>>48178318
>She collabed with men
who did she collab with?

>> No.48178540

>>48178294
The idea that Cover has somehow imposed a year+ non compete that allows her to stream for a rival company on a platform, but only a single platform, is honestly ludicrous. Non competes are barely enforceable as is, and Kson didn't have the same issue (or if she had a non compete, it ran out after a year), so unless being fired altered the terms of a non compete (it shouldn't, non competes are determined at the time of a contract signing), then there's no reason to assume it's a noncompete.

>> No.48178541

>>48178475
Taishi and some apex players

>> No.48178624

>>48178475
Whoever was on that gartic phone collab. She also called into a man's totsumachi stream.

>> No.48178646

>>48178541
>>48178624
Damn not even Rushia is safe now huh

>> No.48178761

>>48178646
This drama is literally months old and caused fights between her and her fanbase. One of them was a legitimate accident caused by joining a collab halfway through and not checking who was actuall participating.
Her current stance is "no male collabs". Anyone telling you otherwise doesn't watch her and is deliberately pushing to timeloop old drama.

>> No.48178831

>>48178646
Her fans will tell you it's ok because it wasn't a formal collab and she said she wouldn't do it again and will marrry a fan.

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48178888

>>48173013

>> No.48178899

>>48178761
Her stance was always supposed to be "no male collabs" but then it suddenly wasn't and now it is again. She simply gets along better with men but she will lie to you to make you think otherwise.
She is not your wife.

>> No.48178993

>>48178541
Isn't that guy part Kson's group?

>> No.48178995

>>48178540
>The idea that Cover has somehow imposed a year+ non compete ... is honestly ludicrous.
Yet it's the only option that is possible.
>and Kson didn't have the same issue
1. Kson isn't a new persona
2. You are ignoring the very likely explanation that Hololive contracts post-Coco graduation could have and probably did become more strict.

>> No.48179021

>>48178540
they could have increased the length of the noncompete after kson left or she could have negotiated it to be annulled or cut shorter?
the idea that nazuna with 0 hours streamed on twitch would sign some secretive twitch exclusivity contract that no other vtuber has, that doesn't cover her other identity and also didn't help her get partnered for over two months is even more ridiculous

>> No.48179038

>>48178899
You're always so quick to reveal yourself to be the schizo lately.

>> No.48179106

>>48179038
What will you do when she inevitably collabs with a man again?

>> No.48179115

>>48179021
She joined an org that has connections to Twitch and debuted as an affiliate straight out of the gate. It's basically confirmed that she has "some" form of special contract with Twitch, but the actual terms are not public knowledge.

>> No.48179150

The absolute state of Vshojo lmao

>> No.48179184

>>48179106
Read your posts about it because I don't watch her and you obsessively post about her every day of your life.

>> No.48179193

>>48179038
Don't reply to him and allow him to seethe.
His existence is honestly pitiable and he craves (You)s like his life depends on it. Let the thread die

>> No.48179272

>>48179184
I barely post about her. I just call you a cuck whenever you poke your face in the catalog.

>> No.48179361

>>48179115
so you think she signed some big shadowy deal just to get fucking affiliate status? the status that requires an average ccv of 3?

>> No.48179374

>>48179115
Big streamers can get affiliate easy. Twitch is run by humans rather than automated systems and algorithms so they will do shit like that. Kson also got affiliate before she did a single Twitch stream, long before she joined Vshojo.

>> No.48179378

>>48179272
You post about her every single day of your life because you have a mental disorder. You've been doing it for 15 months.

>> No.48179438

>>48179378
But I don't.

>> No.48179747

>>48179378
Stop responding to him, you retard. If you are who I think you are, I'll post your Twitter in the thread if you don't shut up

>> No.48179838

Link my post about her from yesterday if I post about her every single day of my life. Do it.

>> No.48180401

>>48173013
Soooo, does that mean she can stream on her Mikeneko channel again after LOLshojo goes under?

>> No.48180517

>>48180401
She streamed on her Mikeneko channel four days ago
VShojo can't stop her doing that, thankfully

>> No.48180859

>>48180517
>>48177272

>> No.48184089

>>48173013
nnot my problem

>> No.48185103

>>48173013
Even though she was my oshi, I cant feel bad when she manipulated so many of us lonely men to give her money, just to cuck us later.
If only every manipulative women out there got the same karma.

>> No.48187448

>>48185103
So true fellow robot

>> No.48187780

>>48175401
Sadly it is for at least a decade now.

>> No.48187786

>didn't even do anything lately
>dramaniggers still feel the need to bring her up

>> No.48188424

>>48187786
seanigger like to making drama out of thin air

>> No.48189695

>>48185103
I bought a poster and a keychain. Aaaand that's about it. If it makes you feel any better, it went straight to Covercorp and not her.

>> No.48189725

>>48175050
>Vshocucks now obsessing over random twitter accounts and creating random conspiracy theories based on them
kek

>> No.48195163

>>48173013
She'll be fine

>> No.48195208

>>48187786
>didn't even do anything lately
Shes been crying over numbers for months now. Recently her unicorns starting getting on her nerves but due to her aforementioned declining numbers she puts up with them.

>> No.48195404 [DELETED] 

>>48189725
Ok phasecuck shill kiwinnigger deranged numberfaggot that sucks Hololive cock. And spicsfaggots.

>> No.48195406

A lot of you are spreading rrats about someone who has expressed the desire to sue people who do that exact thing. Godspeed.

>> No.48196068

>>48195404
They really mindbroke you huh?

>> No.48200583

>>48173013
>she really can't catch a break.
no

>> No.48204116

Tell me about all the tranny shit going on at vshojo. Any company, group or person bending the knee to the inexistent mentally ill pedophile lgbt deserves to fail. It's the worst political crap you can do and they deserve to burn for eternity.

>> No.48204370

>>48178475
Zentrany

>> No.48206431

>>48173013
Can she ever recover?

>> No.48207003

>>48175050
> vshojoniggers brings out the bvtm everytime they see a phase fan.

Rent free and obsessed. Kson will never be coco and I can see why cover fired her ass out of hololive.

>> No.48212389

>>48175050
what the hell?

>> No.48213228

>>48175050
I'll never get over how hypocritical this image is

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