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47666627 No.47666627 [Reply] [Original]

>Kiara is abrasive and rude
>Mori is autistic and stupid
>Amelia is a contrarian and throws tantrums
>Gura is lazy and asocial
>Ina is boring and has anger issues
Were English vtubers a mistake?

>> No.47666769

Oh wow, another myth thread...

>> No.47666787

gura is just like me (but cute)...

>> No.47667148

Kiara is a good girl, fuck you op

>> No.47667186

>>>/jp/

>> No.47667711

>ina
>anger issues

I get this is bait but you're gonna have to explain this one

>> No.47667795

>>47666627
I always wondered why people though kiara was rude then i learned that amerifag censor swear in radio song. Then i laughted at how snowflake they are, and wondered what did go wrong with them and concluded everything, so i'm still wondering why people think kiara is rude.

>> No.47667871 [DELETED] 

>>47666627
Kill yourself

>> No.47667959

>>47666769
Because they're relevant. Unlike a certain other english gen.

>> No.47668013

>>47667711
The entire thread is bait, but Kiara mentioned a few times that during her US trip she tried to make Ina learn a whopping 2 dance moves, and Ina got passive aggressive real fast.
I can't find the stream or timestamp now.
But you can instead watch Kiara rant about Myth girls being ultra lazy, undedicated whores. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCZ6ltup0Zw&t=11677s

>> No.47668085

>>47667795
They think Kiara is rude because she's blunt. She says what she thinks with a minimum of sugarcoating. If anything, she's already much more tactful than others of her kind.

>Don’t take it personally; it’s just the way Germans are. Think about their bluntness as a type of goal-oriented behavior. They say what they want, what they think, and how they feel. Period.
>In Germany, my husband got scolded for mowing our lawn on Sunday. Another time, a foreigner rang to ask why my son was crying so loud, as she could hear him from the street. A colleague once told me I was wrong to go back to work while my child was only a few months old since the child would turn into a criminal. My list could go on and on. The point is that almost all Germans act similarly. Some will be nicer and ask you with a smile not to mow on Sunday. Others will lecture you about why Sunday is the Lord’s Day when everyone should rest.

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>>47666627

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>>47668085
Counterpoint: the Swiss

>> No.47668356

>>47668085
>Germans are rude at baseline
>Kiara is a product of their society
In other words Kiara is rude, got it. You can learn how to not be blunt. She has received multiple social cues and has not learned from it, which is why she didn't last long in Japan. Being blunt is not a personal trait, it just means you're an asshole. I've met funny assholes before that are fun to hang around, but Kiara is not one of them.

>> No.47668569

>>47668356
The only reason you think that is because your culture is so inseparably tethered to meaningless pleasantries that for someone to say something even vaguely uncomplimentary is treated incredibly seriously because it carries with it the implication of breaking your social mores. When Kiara calls someone amazing she means it, but you don't believe that if you were the one doing it it would just be lip service.

>> No.47668872

Pff, what kind of a terminally online twitter tranny finds Kiara rude? She ain't rude or abrasive. She's vanilla.

>> No.47668976

>>47668013
Oof

>> No.47669047

>>47666627
Accurate to be honest. God I love them so much.

>> No.47669283

>>47667711
Originally it stemmed in /jp/ from a tako projecting some anger fetish onto Ina because he thinks it's really hot. But shitposters can't into jokes and usually have to make shit up for Ina, so they just say she has anger issues.
>>47668013
>this entire thread is bait, but [posts more bait]
Weird over simplification. That day Ina was already sleep deprived from the day before, then spent almost 12 hours helping Ame to get the tech ready for Kiara. Also, while still having to work on her own projects, and she had to leave soon. Then of course, she wouldn't want to add learning a whole new dance and doing recordings to it at the time.

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>>47666627

>> No.47669348

>>47669283
you don't have to pretend that Ina doesn't have her faults.
no one is perfect

>> No.47669415

>>47669348
Fuck off

>> No.47669434

>>47669348
I didn't say she's perfect. Just the whole anger issues thing is retarded

>> No.47670035

>>47668085
>>47668255
As a swiss person, those examples of germans being direct actually sounds like normal behaviour to me.

>> No.47670229

>>47670035
Why are you guys so autistic?

>> No.47670323

>>47670229
NTA, but why are you such snowflakes? It's common to call out someone if they're disrupting the peace or normal workflow. And I'm not even german.

>> No.47670512

>>47670229
I honestly don't know, I thought this was normal until I met people from elsewhere...

>> No.47671074

>>47668085
However, Kiara is Austrian. We are different from Germans, namely we complain about everything, we call that 'sudern'.
Here we joke about that if an Austrian can't complain they cannot be happy.

>> No.47671251

>>47668085
lol yes, Germans are rude. Like how they bluntly told millions of migrants to behave and stop raping their women? Germans (and Austrians) are cucked now and Kiara is just a bitch.

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And today, anons learn that some cultures are blunt, some are subtle, and many are somewhere in-between. Germans, from what I've seen, are blunt. Japs are subtle. America is somewhere in-between. And every other country falls somewhere on this spectrum. People should try to be understanding of this when someone from a different style comes into yours. They may not understand that they are being rude. And people should also try to be understanding as to why one culture may believe that person is being rude as well. Understanding and empathy can go a long way on cultural differences that ultimately don't matter that much. Some cultural differences do matter and can be shat on, but this is not one of them.

>> No.47671390

>>47667795
Europeans can arrest you for misgendering. Yea hearing someone say shit on the radio is definitely worth that

>>47668085
Retard there’s being direct, there’s being blunt and there’s being rude. Americans are some of the rudest people you’ll meet just bump into them on the street, asians are blunt and racist, and every straight man is direct. There’s a difference between calling your son a sissy or fag for wearing skinny jeans and telling a fatman have fun dying in a year. There’s a difference between seeing old asian ladies say wow you’re so much uglier than the last time I saw you and telling your neighbors stop mowing their lawns at 5am. Entering a light conversation and adding your baggage is rude when people can’t respond with “i dont care” because it’s a livestream or leaving her on read. Saying she wasn’t invited to an offcollab, that’s open invite in a group chat she’s in, causing people to attack mumei and Ame is rude.
>Rude offensively impolite or ill mannered.
Kiara would fall under ill mannered. Another example calling your friend a bitch or a maidenless faggot after beating you in a game is fine but that same friend in the middle of the game telling you his gf was cheating on him is rude because I don’t care and I now I have to respond or I’m being rude. Hitting on your friends gf in his face is also rude but you’re doing him a favor at least he learns she’s not loyal

>> No.47671570

>>47668569
What culture is this? No man is saying wow you’re great at this for pleasantries. No man is talking to another man past a head nod unless you see this person more than three times. Your culture is sounding very feminine and gay if you think anything past a drink at the bar or laughing at someone’s misfortune is worth striking up a conversation

>> No.47671690

>>47671357
No, stop being reasonable! I want to shitpost...

>> No.47671910

>>47671357
If you go to another country look like a foreigner and they shit talk you in their language where does that fall? Because that’s literally every single country in the world.

>> No.47672005 [DELETED] 

>>47668013
ah yes, shitkin's word being reliable

>> No.47672046

>>47671910
Either playful banter that some cultures are more used to than others or being unempathetic, I guess? But in this case, we are discussing a vtuber who is online and speaking their second language. Which is why I tailored what I said that specific way.

>> No.47672080

>>47671357
>And every other country falls somewhere on this spectrum.
Just like how anons fall on another kind of spectrum.

>> No.47672125

>>47667959
The only reason you think they're irrelevant is because they actually stream and make enjoyable content, which is why you never hear anything about them since you only read threads that shit on people.

>> No.47672156

Sex with Kiara while she criticizes your life choices

>> No.47672186

>>47666627
Part of having an oshi is knowing these things but loving them anyway

>> No.47672193

How does it being part of her culture excuse her rudeness?

>> No.47672245

>>47666627
>Kiara is abrasive and rude
Abrasive? absolutely, rude? Kiara is one of the few vtubers who seem to genuinely like their audience.

>> No.47672293

>>47672193
English speakers should try to be more understanding of how her kind of people talk and she should try to act more like a typical English speaker. Both are important.

>> No.47672297

>>47672156
couldnt pay me to have sex with that thing, id even go for mori over her

>> No.47672471

>>47666627
Mori is autisitic and stupid? common she is much more worse than that being autistic and stupid is not a persons fault but she is much worse

>> No.47672903

>>47672293
I’ve met germans, russians, ukrainians, and the Scottish all of them ranging from fluent in English to extremely esl. Not one of them talked like kiara but they were all straightforward. I’m pretty sure everyone is confusing the two. Being blunt isn’t being rude

>>47672245
Kfp an awful fanbase for an awful vtuber. I guess all the jps hate their fans, all the small corpos hates their fans all indies hate their fans yet they so many are doing better then Kiara with a quarter of the subs. None of them are losing fans consistently maybe she should hate her fans like apparently every single vtuber does. Rude means no manners Abrasive means harsh. By your logic of being the only one to like her fans she would have to be rude because she can’t be abrasive

>> No.47672983

>>47672293
she's still shittalking her genmates 2 years after debut
I think she's had plenty of understanding and is giving nothing in return

>> No.47673107

>>47666627
>Were English vtubers a mistake?
Yes. We've been telling you this for years.

>> No.47673489

>>47672903
>>47672983
You guys who watch her way more than me would know better than I about how she acts. If she is acting beyond how normal Austrians do, I can see why she gets criticized for it. And yes, I do agree she should try to act more like a typical English speaker as I should be expected to act like a typical German speaker if I were speaking German. Sadly, some do not assimilate enough, especially online. I see that where I live very often, but I try to at least give some benefit of the doubt unless they have been here a while. Then I tend to expect more. I don't know Kiara well enough to say if she should assimilate more when speaking English or not.

>> No.47674053

>>47666627
Mori is the worst thing that ever happened to Hololive

>> No.47674241

>>47666627
they make you seethe, so they were a success.

>> No.47674410

>>47666627
wow, they're just like me

>> No.47675364

>>47670229
why are you mowing your lawn on a fucking sunday faggot we're trying to rest here

>> No.47675422

50 posts in and no BUT WHAT ABOUT NIJI? I'm impressed.

>> No.47675479

>>47666627
>Anon is autistic and stupid, abrasive, a contrarian and lazy
Was Indonesia a mistake?

>> No.47675510 [DELETED] 

>>47666627
Don't you mean Mori is arrogant and a drug addict?

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>>47675422
It's because everything that was mentioned is true and even us holochads know it.
But those imperfections are what makes them cute.

>> No.47675730

>>47675510
If you didn’t realize except Kiara literally none of those are true

>> No.47676083

>>47666627
Which Niji had a meltdown today?

>> No.47676679

>>47672471
>she is much more worse than that being autistic and stupid
She really isn't.

>> No.47679138

>>47666627
Yes. All of them could be sucking my balls and stick right now as their fans cheer them on.

>> No.47679398

>>47675510
Why was this deleted?

>> No.47679849

>>47666627
projecting hard enough to bring back drive-in cinemas around the world.

>> No.47680266

>>47668013
geeze this just makes me like kiara more
no wonder she gets along with pomu
two of the hardest workers and most dedicated, always get spurned by their coworkers who seem to get significantly more leeway than them
any outbursts they have are completely justified hearing the shit they have to go through

>> No.47680417

>>47666627
>Mori is autistic and stupid
This just makes her cuter though?

>> No.47680509

>>47666627
>Kiara is cute
>Mori is cute
>Ame is cute
>Ina is cute
>Gura is cute
I agree! Excellent thread OP!

>> No.47680539

>>47666627
You are putting JP talents on a pedestal anon...

>> No.47680649

>>47672186
yeah, too many people grow up without accepting people have flaws and end up being fickle

>> No.47681069

>>47667711
>>47668013
Also Ame unveiled she was getting aggressive while they were setting up Ame's studio.

>> No.47681365

>>47666627
these are mild personality flaws that every human has

>> No.47682582

>>47681069
source?
aggressive ina...

>> No.47683405

>>47666627
Are we time looping again care to explain why

>> No.47683559

>>47676679
Mori also has low EQ which is why her acquittances ditched her before she had anything to offer.

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