/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Holostars are about as useful to Cover as a screen door in an airplane.
Yagoo needs to get rid of them now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47646181
Well they make more money than the EN whores, so maybe it's time Yagoo looks to cut costs elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

Different market, different clientele. In the long run the drama probably helps advertise them. If you don't think fujos are a cash cow remember how many /vt/sisters there are shitting this place up.

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>>47646181
boys are pure, girls are whores
so no

[Anonymous No.]

>>47646181
Involving woman for more than their intended purpose is always a mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>Shitting on Male Vtubers
>Pekora OP image

This is getting predictable, like WTF does Pekora even have against Male Vtubers since she is one of the ones who acts like the opposite gender doesnt exist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47646579
Maybe OP means that Yagoo should be more like the rabbit in that sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47646181
b-but watching clips will help for sure!!

[Anonymous No.]

if Yagoo truly cared about the homos, he should send them to homo company Nijisanji. not only are they a cancer in concept of the aidoru company but they barely succeed because no sane male fan would support them to grow.

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>>47646181
based peko

[Anonymous No.]

>>47646579
It's literally one (1) guy.

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>>47646378
At the cost of damaging HoloEN and it's income and delaying Gen 3. Aside from clown guy and vesper, don't seem to balance out what was lost. How many /vt/sisters are paypigs? greyfags are useless whether live or stars.

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>>47646378
>muh negative publicity is still publicity
Tell that to AnyColor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47646181
Screen door for an airplane sounds useful as fuck though? You can let out the stench of shitty passengers without letting bugs in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47649848
It's not damaging HoloEN except in a few schizo's minds

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>>47646181
EN is dead weight and only exists because Gura has become a mascot. They should also be eliminated.

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>>47650085

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>>47646244
Oof. Now, really, is there any chart to compare? Just curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47650125
are you a faggot sister? long time members quit membership when the girls collab with tempus.

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>>47650258
So that's what? Just a few kronii memberships?

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>>47646181
>Yagoo needs to get rid of them now.
In your dreams

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>>47650294
wake up greyfag sister, your homos is a plague, their integration were so forced there are no goodwill left for your homos, especially tempus 2. Schizo on sis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47650169
>>47649848
From 04/10 - 04/17 mem + gift mem for StarsEN.
Altare: 878
Axel: 559
Vesper: 209
Magni: 1737 (he hit 200k subs so at least 1k of that came from that alone)
Bettel: 498
Flayon: 453 (surprising)
Shinri: 738
Hakka: 643
Things to consider
You can't gift in ars unless you actually live there
This was only a weeks worth.
There's also the merch they sell.
Gifted mem is always tier 2, tier 2 is 6 dollars for all of them and like 2 dollars usd in the cheaper currencies like Columbian (but you can see what currencies are used on hololyzer and Columbian isn't one of them)

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>>47650304
>dreams
Ironic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47650606
>>>>>>>>>>>Ironic
I should be saying that to you. It's been five years and they're still around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47650575
Flayon's viewers are small, but they're all greens

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>>47650502
>no goodwill left
>Schizo on sis
the schizo tells others to schizo it's funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>47650502
greyfag doesn't make sense as an insult when they get so many memberships >>47650575

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>>47650258
Wow. Some members are throwing hissy fits. We should all bend the knee to satisfy the voices of a few.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47650668
Except for the one that started everything kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47646181
No really the problem was not debuting EN3
Even the tempus drama helped as free advertisement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47651051
>drama instead of more cute girls
Just what hololive production is for.

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>>47646244
>Fauna has 5,000+ members who voted in a poll not a long ago.
So Holostars have over 5,000 members and birthday merch that has broken records before?

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>>47646181
Pekora be nice.

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>>47650575
Did vesper decline after his retard arc or was he always the runt? I never bothered checking stars numbers

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>>47650575
Which site counts membership gifts?

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>>47651233
my dream

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>>47651440
It's literally written on the post, you're just retarded.
>>47651233
Hololyzer.
>>47651231
Unironically slow week for him, if you do it in the previous weeks it comes up to above 350-450

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>>47646181
You'll have to take Holostars from his cold dead hands.

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>>47646181
Just get rid of all the side branches EN and ID and focus on JP

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>>47651826 (me)
You can interpret slow week as decline.
Also forgor pic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47652008
He was the chosen one, sad state of affairs.

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>>47651192
No lmao. Donation money and the like is cope. Their subs are shit and cover cares about that too. Nice money from a few fags and fujos. Now go actually be popular and sell out tickets. Go actually expand the brand faggots.

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>>47652292
They already did by going for a different market than the girls

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>>47646765
>Yagoo is a male
>He should pretend males don't exist, which includes him
That's how a tranny would think anon

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>>47646579
Just post her Hypnotist or minecraft collab that usually shuts him the fuck up

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>>47652346
A niche inside of a niche, businessmen should know better.

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>>47652365
>>>/pol/

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>>47650575
>please watch my brotubers!
>here I'll pay you to watch their members-only content
>yeah I'm subscribed to my bros for bro-to-bro action
do these people really think anyone still falls for it

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>>47652433
They know better than you about how to run their business

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>>47652386
Neither are as bad as your faggots homobeggar

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>>47652483
You do know you can just ask them to show the membership and it will literally say if it's gifted or not, right?

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>>47652498
So no one here knows anything then, not even the idols should but some have also given their opinion.

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>>47652498
Pretty sure they don't

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>>47652663
The retards /here/ would forego a profitable venture because of their ideological hatred of male vtubers

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>>47652761
>ideological
Sounds like they would fare better getting money than projectors.

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>>47652292
So wait, the girls can't collab with males regardless of what the general audience thinks because the unicorns are cash cows, but the boys' cash cows don't matter and they need a bigger general audience.
Do I have that right?

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>>47646244
Holy shit. You really believe that

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>>47652761
Google opportunity cost

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>>47652847
They would have a bigger fanbase by the sole virtue of not fucking up.

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>>47652882
>Uses the money on girls that don't stream
vs
>Uses money on boys that do stream and make money
Think they weighed up the opportunity cost pretty well.

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>>47652882
Doesn't apply since they're two different branches

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>>47652949
Double negatives do not make a positive.

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>>47653018
So, what else would you use the English branch money on? Give it back and say "kill the branch, use the money on JP"?

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>>47653062
Sadly, there is no coming back from something like that. Remember China.

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>>47653062
On girls that stream. It can't be that hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47653136
So on just Mori and Kiara? Ok. Sure I guess.

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>>47653136
Holo can't do complete zero effort shit like react content so they only stream when they haven't made enough money. Can't have both.

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>>47652761
big companies forgo profit for ideology all the time. if you are at the top of the market you can shift things to some degree and your customers will move along with you. just don't go too far to quickly (see the recent bud light shenanigans)

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>>47653230
If you lose the core purpose, you will be forgotten and replaced sooner or later.

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>>47653230
>if you are at the top of the market
It's clear Cover doesn't view itself as top of the market.

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>>47653230
Stars have existed since 2019

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>>47646181
It's hilarious how cover tries to hide the failures that are holostars from their investors

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>>47653479
Meanwhile the nijichads aren't afraid of adding their 2views to their numbers

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>>47650575
>HoloEN reached their absolute lowest point ever since these faggots debuted
>the fags themselves get lesse viewership than fucking HoloID and even some small corpo chuubas
>their merch combined got outsold by Kiara's bottle
>even the gay clown SCs started to slow down
>"muh memberships"
these niggas are a fucking flop and I can't believe there are still sisters trying to numberfag such a dumpster fire. A fucking chat bot with a female voice would've outperformed all these flops combined.

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>>47653185
You need to update your facts lmao

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>>47653542
Yeah because if they didn't they would lose half their streamers

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>>47653617
Your graph is meaningless since it ignores that the most popular HoloEN members have been streaming way less

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>>47653723
I'd bet in the hypothetical situation where they released EN3 in January the viewership would not have gone down but remained the same or increased

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>>47653800
At this point you can blame the homos as much as you want for no EN3 but it's either one of two things
Yagoo waiting for that 1 million subbed council OR there's so little talents that pass screening that they just don't have a gen to debut.
I'd also bet on the hypothetical that it's the latter. Especially considering the types of women that have been debuting in the EN sphere recently.

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>>47653852
Idol and Eien chuubas would all do fine in HoloEN though

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>>47653723
It's not, even if you take Gura and Ina out of the equation every single EN member reached their lowest point ever since their debut. Only exceptions are Kiara who remained stable and Fauna who actually managed to grow.
And even then your homos are still bottom of the barrel trash who can't even compate with indos. HoloEN desperately needed a new fucking gen and Cover debuted 8 fags no one asked for.

[Anonymous No.]

ahh but you've missed one thing: I don't care about numbers. I don't care how many subs they get, viewers they have or how much money they make. Vesper, Flayon and Beetle in particular are really fun because they're comedic horrible at games, it's gap broe.

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>>47653891
>Eien
aren't they EN AVtubers? Why would they join holo?
>Idol
I know literally nothing about them besides the Rin girl that everyone shills and she'd collab with Tempus anyway so retards on this board would call her a flop.

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>>47653852
I dont know where these people got the 1 million sub thing from, it's pure speculation

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>>47654001
>AVtubers
They wouldn't be if they were holos, duh

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>>47653922
Cool, enjoy them, keep them away from hololive for everyone's sake then.

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>>47654059
the mixed collabs are fun though

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>>47654088
It hurts cover, do you not care about that? If not, then go back to indies.

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>>47653922
I bet you'll suddenly start caring about numbers once the homos start getting lackluster standardized merch and even cheaper projects/events

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>>47653914
Adding more livers will just lower your precious "peak median" because of overlaps in the long run

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>>47654042
Uhh..I think they want to be, hence why they chose Eien.
>>47654026
It's based on past events IIRC.
Botan got 1m and suddenly JP6 happened, etc.
>>47654059
Besides the one time with Ollie's apex tourney thing, I don't think Bettel or Flayon (or any of the new 4) have collabed with the girls a single time or expressed interest in it.

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>>47654161
They can already do fun projects on their own

[Anonymous No.]

>>47653891
>EIEN
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>47654176
>livers
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>47654176
Having a good amount of streamers prevents full dead times like the Japan trip arc, meaning a steady viewerbase with higher avenues of growth, overlap be damned

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>>47654217
Gens are planned way in advance, the girls got to know each other for months before they debut. Botan hitting 1m is a coincidence.

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>>47654235
We know from the homos that cover enforces certain stream hours and timeslots for about a month.
Then they can choose to either branch out or keep the slot.

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>>47654026
Same place they got Tempus delaying EN3: Their asses.
Stars JP gen 1 and 2 were only three months apart, even closer than the two halves of Tempus.
The girls still debuted Gen 3 a month before Stars1 and Gen 4 a month after Stars2.
None of that matters because this is, at its core, a drama board.

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>>47654346
That was brand new with the time limit and overlap prevention. Been around for ages and never saw anything like it in hololive.

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>>47654121
>It hurts cover, do you not care about that
pfffhahaha, Can't get over how pathetic you're sounding.

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>>47654121
I already said I don't care about numbers so even if that were true no I wouldn't care at all. I'll take the chuuba's side over the company's on that every time. I don't collab beg either.

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>>47654121
I guarantee you Cover LOVES those collabs

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>>47654485
It's good that you don't collab beg, but if they hurt the company are you not worried that they would graduate?

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>>47654121
>It hurts cover
That boot taste good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47654543
Idk how does nijis taste

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>>47654522
no because they don't actually hurt the company lol. schizo arcs are more likely to lead to graduation than that.

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>>47654557
Dunno, I follow the vtuber, not the corpo.

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>>47654566
Actually when it comes to hololive most graduations are due to just leaving the company not going schizo, even if the schizo was the biggest surprise

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>>47654607
Then believe it or not, cover does not consider you their target audience. As a corporation they want to build a brand, if you don't give a shit about the brand they don't give a shit about you. Same goes for any corpo, niji vsj 774, you name it.

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>>47654360
Management has started caring a lot more about the girls overlapping the homos. That's why the whole company had to stop for uproar's 3d debuts that barely anyone even watched. Taking that info and the fact that we've had 2 tempiss gens in succession without any other debut near it while there has been minimal advertisement for the girls auditions most likely means that they have not done anything with EN3 while they focused on the homos even though it has been nearly 2 years since council

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>>47654655
Anon, everyone knows you don't give a shit about the "corporation" and the "brand", so stop pretending. You seem to care more about hating males than liking the girls at this point, and you're making whatever excuse you can to justify it.

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>>47654836
Yes because the hundreds of dollars I've spent on merch means I don't care about the girls or hololive, yep sure bud.

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>>47654655
So, tell me, how do you contribute to the brand?
>SCS / membership / merch
You're contributing to the talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47654218
And other jokes you tell yourself
The day of the chuuba r.ope draws ever closer, and once it reaches Cover, your beloved CGDCT defilers will be the first against the wall

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>>47654738
No matter how ridiculous it sounds they most likely believed tempiss to be an adequate replacement for en3

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>>47654865
Then what are you doing obsessing over guys you don't even watch? You really think shitposting on some anime imageboard is gonna change anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47654975
cringe

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>>47654975
two more weeks nijisis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47654975
>least insane CGDCT enjoyer

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>>47654655
so did you donate directly to cover or what? ain't no way you are supporting cover directly without either being a paid shill or you donated to them

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>>47654951
All of those have a cut that goes to cover, I also tell others about the streamers I watch which will promote the brand, and I push concerts and shit because I think its good content. It's like saying that if I buy addidas I'm not supporting addidas but t-shirts because I bought a t-shirt.

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>>47655000
I don't want the males in thr streams I watch because not only is that content I don't want to watch but it actively hurts the girls by bringing drama to them, potentially causing a shitstorm.

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>>47655012
>>47655023
>>47655026
nice samefag, totally not an obvious raid from the mans containment thread defense force

[Anonymous No.]

>>47655051
So basically you're an unpaid shill? Damn, at least go into clipping and ask for some money.
Yeah I can't shill for a corpo like you can, all I do is just watch the talent, sub and membership if I enjoy the streams enough.

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>>47655108
>I don't want the males in thr streams I watch because not only is that content I don't want to watch
Okay.
>but it actively hurts the girls by bringing drama to them, potentially causing a shitstorm.
That issue lies within yourself. There would be no drama if you retards don't start shit to begin with.

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47655125
Here's your pity (you)

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>>47655180
So you think that a major change to something should just be accepted if it isn't what people want to watch? That would make me a cuck, so instead I voice my displeasure and if shit continues I leave. Meanwhile you have faggots begging for collabs and going in to sturr shit and make the streamers feel uncomfortable by trying to make the original fans feel uncomfortable and leave. Basically, what I'm doing is mild gatekeepers, and those fags are the ones who want everything to end.

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>>47655277
>That would make me a cuck
Well that didn't take long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47655321
It would be the same if I was talking about magic the gathering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47655277
>That would make me a cuck
you already are though

[Anonymous No.]

>>47655379
No, I don't think it would.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47655406
It absolutely would, if you don't gatekeep the things you love and enjoy and just accept whatever slop is given to you even if you don't like it, its the same mentality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47655277
>what I'm doing is mild gatekeepers
SEAfaggot spotted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47655449
Nah it's just 330am and typed the wrong word

[Anonymous No.]

Homobeggars thinking that Hologirls merch is also getting standardized just because council extra merch for their new outfits wasn't a fucking custom fridge and 3 were keychains, but at the same time Fauna released a hand towel that will surely bring more money than the merchandise of the homos in 1 whole year

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>>47655513
That kind of merch doesn't make Cover any money. It's useless to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>47655801
It makes them some money, it also brings people to the events where they make the most money, such as cafes and concerts.

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>>47655801
But anon, Youtube takes 30% of SCs! If you really want to support your oshi you need to buy the acrylic stand where 40% goes to shipping, 15% goes to materials and labor, 20% goes to manufacturer profits, and 20% goes to Cover!

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>>47655955
It's funny because this is how niji works since all their merch is like that on purpose by management. Their talents make the least amount by selling merch. Which is completely opposite for hololive. Holostars is starting to follow the niji path.

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>>47646378
>Different market, different clientele
So, why are they keep shoving them onto my face?

[Anonymous No.]

>>47656103
They don't you just keep looking for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>47656138
HAHAHAHAHA faggot CEO pushed them on NYE stream and don't forget the holopro venue tour stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>47656225
I have had almost 20 memberships to Holos spread across every branch and I genuinely don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're just obsessed.

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>>47656648
You're retarded then.

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>>47656737
Skimming through hundreds of hours of content per day to hyperfixate on the two minute promotion that makes you unhappy is not smart, anon.

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>>47656808
>two minute promotion
Yeah, very retarded indeed.