Mori doesn't care

[Anonymous No.]

https://streamable.com/9cbgcr

It's confirmed now. Unmistakably confirmed. She said it herself. She doesn't care. Hololive is 5% of her life.

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>>4749348
Shit bait, you’re stupid

[Anonymous No.]

We don't care either, Zhang.

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>>4749348
legit unsubbed and never watching her again. fuck this shit whore. cover's biggest mistake hiring this cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>I dont care lol
What an arrogant bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
WHAT THE FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
big yab. deadbraps will take their 5% gladly because they're cucks

[Anonymous No.]

When she says "I don't care" she means she doesn't let upsetting things dominate her thoughts. Some of you might learn a thing or two from her.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
Fartbrap will defend this...

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder what % of her life Ayame views hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

Too many people here focus on her. HololiveEN in general is cancer you idiots. Destroy it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
I'm gonna brrrrrrap and defend by queen

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
What a fucking bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749521

[Anonymous No.]

cuckbeats...

[Anonymous No.]

Meanwhile, some holos quite literally use streams as the vast majority of their social interaction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
Everyone that isn't a cuckbeat already knew this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
And what percentage of her income is a result of that 5%?

[Anonymous No.]

which holo am I supposed to protect and follow now?

[Anonymous No.]

>Yeah this collab got moved but I don't care lol
>You see, you guys are only 5% of my life so basically you don't matter
>Deal with it lol
What the actual fuck is wrong with her?

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>>4749348
Okay, so? Are we supposed to give a shit?

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>>4749348
She's based and awesome for respecting herself and not pandering to deranged unicorns. Vtubers are not your girlfriends. If you're so pathetic that you need to play pretend date, just unsub Mori and go be miserable and watch Lamy or Rushia.

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>>4749740
Yeah, beat the shit out of that strawman.

[Anonymous No.]

To be fair, 5% is still 1.2 hours a day.
But that just confirms she does no preparation or thought at all outside her streams, not even watching anyone else's streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749689
95%, kek

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>>4749348
>posts Mori shitpost thread #824395723809461089234y08458120374180923470819234798527389410

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749644
Polka...

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>>4749348
>>4749414
>>4749415
>>4749450
>>4749459
>>4749508
>>4749509
>>4749539
>>4749560
>>4749643
okay chang, she talk about 5000 furries that she btfo in Twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really care how little of a shit she gives about Hololive (it's always been obvious she doesn't care).

The problem is that she's actively trying to drag it down almost as a punishment for the "audacity" of being forced to do solo streams. Trying to force the Charlie collab, griefing hololive collabs, etc.

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>>4749348
That 5% is the only reason she's relevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749799
Yes. Mori is shit

[Anonymous No.]

This board was a mistake, it allows a few schizos to spam threads and reach a much bigger audience than ever before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
I wish my job could only be 5% of my life...
I thought being a full time creator was Moris dream though

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>>4749348
honestly, thinking if my oshi (gura) said shit like this, id drop her instantly.
dead beats seriously what the fuck? not even trolling. are you alright?

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>>4749348
I was really hoping that it's Miko boat. You disappointed me OP, now you can go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749728
Stop putting things into her mouth, my cock is already in it fag

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>>4749348
>Hololive is 5% of her life.
She said streaming is 5% of her life.
The other 95% is spent producing recording, writing lyrics, drawing, editing MVs, maintaining some semblance of her roommate's existence.
Same goes for like, almost every other Hololive member.

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>>4749859
Then leave and go to any of the social media platforms where positive discussion is enforced and criticism is curbstomped.

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>>4749348
LMAO
Is her fanbase legit paypigs and cucks who get off to this hummiliation?

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>>4749912
Holy fucking cope lmao

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>>4749490
No, if she was just talking about upsetting thoughts she would have worded it way differently and said something along the lines of not letting the negative get to her too much. What she did instead was go on to tell her fans that hololive is a small percent of her focus and she doesn't care that much about it or what her fans say.

She literally doesn't give a shit about hololive and only uses it as a way to push her shitty music and get connections to people who would have ignored her before. Deadbeats are literally the most cucked fans and I couldn't imagine supporting someone like her. The 5% of her life she doesn't care about is literally the only reason she isn't still working all day for change living in a hole producing music no one will ever find.

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>>4749348
Trinitybros we can't stop winning.

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>>4749942
No just pathetic whiteknight simps who derive more pleasure from posting "YASSS QUEEEN YOU GO GIRL, DO WHAT YOU WANT US DEADBEATS COME SECOND :)))" than they do from actually watching her streams.

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>>4749348
Hololive is literally 99% of the reason she's not getting deported when her work visa expires after doing shit menial jobs in Japan. And then proceeding to starve in a ditch in the US.
But she's to proud and retarded to realize this and will never be grateful to her senpai for paving her way to success.

[Magnolia (they/them) !!PVnz8mubL5N No.]

yeah, i unsubbed

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>>4749348
imagine being so retarded you value a company or the idea of a company over your own interests and values

i would watch mori even if she started streaming outside of "hololive", it doesn't matter, I care about her content, not the company

if this isn't bringing her joy, i'd rather her continue her actual music career where she can obtain self-fulfillment

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>>4749405
>>4749810
>y-youre all chinese! haha g-get it? people should ignore your posts because I called you a bugmen
DEADBRAPS COPING NOW

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>>4749964
What, you don't like that Mori uses her extensive skills to advance a career your incel hikki ass could never dream of having?

[Anonymous No.]

That goes for all the girls. Were just money to them. JP girls are the only ones that care

[Anonymous No.]

ahhh man this sounds so bad without context

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>>4749348
I don't care, I don't watch her. She makes cool music and she gets nice fanart, that's all that matters.

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>>4749348
Reminder cover and YouTube take nearly 80% of all the money the holos make and once you're gone Cover removes all the content you've ever made and pretends you've never existed. BASED Mori for being an adult and "cover"ing her ass in case things take a turn for the worst. Bet you morons think your companies value you as family too. Best of luck with your dead end jobs.

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>>4750020
She's be starving in a ditch without the company that her senpai built up for her. A company that a lot of her senpai will defend to death. You're a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagining being a T3 Deadbeat and paying to hear this sort of attitude. Truly the most cucked fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

Deadbraps are such pathetic cucks lmao
Imagine defending your oshi not caring about her fanbase lmao
Truly brainwashed

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>>4749912
She said the rest is stuff she can't share with us.

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>>4749348
Pekora...
Korone..
Watame...
Miko...
Flare...
Fubuki...
Kanata...

That's it, im out, fuck this bitch, and before anyone mentions Ayame at least she has the decency of never trash talk about her workplace or bring IRL problems to her stream

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>>4749964
That’s literally true retard. We already know mori works behind the scenes on shit

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>>4750068
She fucking knew this when she accepted the job and she'd be in a ditch without cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749924
schizo posts =/= criticism

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>>4749912
Don't bother trying to convince actual schizos

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>>4749348
That would explain why she's almost never prepared for collabs and naruhodo libs them.

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>>4750068
can you imagine a hoshiyomi trying a "oh I'd still watch suisei if she never joined hololive" no you fucking wouldn't because you'd never have found her and she'd have long since quit and moved on to a normal life and died on the streets

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>>4749810
>I'm gonna brrrrrrap and defend my queen

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>>4750068
Cover is the reason they earn any money doing this shit at all. Every debut gets catapulted into orbit audience-wise. If anything, Cover's cut is extremely generous.

[Anonymous No.]

can't wait for the cr1tikal collab next Deadbraps!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4750152
You can label anything with a buzzword if you don't want to confront it.

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>>4749348
For those who need help with math, 5% is 1 hour and 12 minutes a day.

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>>4749348
Listen again.
She doesn't care about (You).
She doesn't care about dramafaggots and yab tourists, or the spergs who shit themselves over 3D men.
She doesn't care about the fans retarded enough to go along with the zhang cosplay.
She doesn't care about the faggots who will skip all her streams and let shitposters spoonfeed them bait instead.
She doesn't care about >here anymore.

And the advice in this clip came from her genmates.
The same girls you think you're bllack knighting for are the ones who told her to cut you niggers loose.

And that's why you're trying to make this the next Taiwan. Because you know everyone else in Hololive hates you just as much as Mori does.

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>>4749348
U need to go back to highschool or pre school and learn English u dumb fuck

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>>4749348
>95% of things I don't share with (You)
Fuck. I can't believe Mori won't share some of those .95 inches of cock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4750353
You forgot
>She doesn't care about her subscribers, members, or fans from hololive in general.

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>>4750353
Yeah course not, cuz she doesn't care about anything related to her VTuber job, just getting more people to hear her shitty raps

[Anonymous No.]

deadbraps, brapping now
deadbraps, fuming now
deadbraps, seething now
deadbraps, coping now
We'll brap it out!!!
So when you bitches need me, call!!!
(By your side with my beans and red wine~)
I'll make 'em wish they never smelled at all!!!
(I'll stink 'em up, Gucci?)
Just leave it all to us, 'cause in the end
Just brap it, just brap it
Just leave it all to us

[Anonymous No.]

We're at the stage of deliberately misinterpreting shit she says or taking it out of context to further schizopost? Don't get me wrong, I don't like Mori, but there are enough legitimate reasons to shit on her without fabricating some.

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>>4750075
WRONG, she'd be plenty sustained on all the semen she'd be downing looking for record contracts or gigs to play so she doesn't get deported

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>>4750353
youre right, she doesn't care about anything other than herself. Great post, dedbeet

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>>4750518
Projecting shit that literally happened to Kiara onto Mori now, are we?

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>>4749348
She could literally release a video fucking a man while saying she fucking hates all virgin nerds who like vtubing and the deadbeats would still defend her

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>>4749924
>>4750231
>using false dichotomy to give any sort of excuse for the existence of landfill of shit anti threads
One or two concentrated threads would be enough already, and there's nothing buzzwordy or confrontational in that, it's about keeping the board organized. By defending this behaviour and telling him to go into hugbox places instead of voicing his disapproval (which apparently is fine with you) you have just proved his point of this board being a mistake, you mental nigger.

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>>4750402
Just the ones >here, and the Twitter whores. Because at this point what's the difference

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck happened on her break that made her like this?

Sure the "she doesn't care" rrat has been there since debut but after she quit her shitty teacher job she genuinely seemed enthusiastic about spending more time streaming, and for a while it worked.

But now look at her.

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>>4750353
Can't wait for her to leave Hololive thinking her current audience will follow her only to become just as irrelevant as she was before she joined. Then she'll realize that the only reason people give a shit about her music is because it has an anime girl attached to it.

[Anonymous No.]

man chinks are getting pretty desperate to stir shit up

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>>4750579
If you think female "musicians" don't suck dick to make up for the fact that their music sucks you're a fucking retard

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>>4750068
Youtube takes a third and Cover takes half of the rest. They get about $33 from your $100 superchat.

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>>4750655
>Falling for this narrative still

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>>4750615
She's always been like this, but her contract is up soon and she's ready to jump ship so she's less worried about hiding it

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>>4750617
>Can't wait for her to leave Hololive
She won't.
But you will.

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>>4749912
Holos are famous for doing regular ridiculous endurance streams that go on for longer than most people can stay awake for. COPE.

[Anonymous No.]

>it's just a joke!
>you're ESL!
>she works a lot!
>you're a chink!
>it's out of context!
>next time!
>uh... her boobs are big?
I wonder what you will come up with next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4750590
>using false dichotomy
>anti threads
contradicted yourself in one sentence, plebbitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4750655
source: "dude its obvious"

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>>4750819
gosh it's almost like 12 different rrats are wrong for 12 different rreasons

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>>4750819
based shazam poster

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>>4750615
Pretty sure the break was her throwing a tantrum over not being able to collab with ecelebs. J-chad crumpled and now Mori is reverting back to her old ways.

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>>4750655
well see, she got famous cause of hololive, not because she sucked a bunch of music corps dicks for exposure. Or are you one of those faggots that think all holos sucked yagoos dick to get into hololive?

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>>4750816
Plenty don't, not everyone is Doog m8

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>>4750210
>extremely generous.
Idk about that
idolXholos is more like coexisting, you can't live on traffic injections all alone.

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>>4750819
please stop being right shazam

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>>4750656
wow, ONLY $33 for every $100, when she receives them by the second? boo hoo. cut that down to 25 and force me to suck yagoo's dick, i'd still take her place in a heartbeat

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>>4750911
She got famous cause of hololive and hololive alone, now shes saying she doesn't care about it, while the JP girls are constantly thanking Yagoo for giving them a livelihood, Mori is such an entitled fucking dumbass

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>>4750020
>i would watch mori even if she started streaming outside of "hololive", it doesn't matter, I care about her content, not the company
So why didn't you watch her, before she joined Hololive? Also, most people will dump her like a sack if she quit.
People like individual talent, but watch the pseudo-TV channel called Hololive. Believing anything else is delusional.

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>>4749348
Nice bait clipfag
She said that she only spends 5% of her day streaming. She said later on on the stream that she spends more than just 5% doing hololive related work.

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Hahaha, what a bitch. Finally gets some attention for her shitty music and her head swells to the size of a zeppelin. She could quit at any time if she's sick of this! But she won't, cause of the money.

I guarantee it's the anitubers she's palling around with, too.

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>I don't care haha this doesn't affect me
>had to take down a stream
>had to address and remove SC critical of her
>literally 90% of her songs are her """btfoing"""" antis
>I-I promise I'll be better for the fifth time

DOESNT CARE

[Anonymous No.]

>>4750878
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. She even got her alternate costume to look like a shitty rapper groupie.

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>>4750068
They get about a third of all donations. She makes thousands per stream on donations alone before royalties, salary and everything else.

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>>4751058
5% only? Maybe she should start putting in more effort then. Even twitch streamers give way way more than a measly 5% of their day to their streams. Fuck this cunt

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>>4751071
That's the most spurious connection I've seen in a while.

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>>4751038
How about I cut that 33 to 16, because the taxman takes a cut.
Then cut that 16 to 8, because you need to reinvest into assets for your content.

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus Christ, Kiara fucking busts her ass everyday to deliver only her best and Mori has the gall to just come out and say that streaming is only 5% of her day.

Streaming is your fucking job. The least you could do is put some effort into it. Forget about pulling 4+ hours every day streaming like Kiara, just try to actively engage with your fucking job.

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>>4751058
you expect people on this board to watch streams?

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>>4750911
She was in the industry before Hololive though, and Japs won't give you a green card just to sleep on couches and upload garbage to SoundCloud. She needed a lot of checks to prove she was an upstanding citizen, and she didn't cash them on the quality of her music

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>>4751068
How does SC removal works, by the way? Do they get a refund?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751220
After the shit Shion and Ayame have pulled, I'm not sure what the standard is.
In fact I'd expect her streaming times to start looking like theirs at some point(1-2 times a week).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751220
There both shit and cringe normiefag

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>>4750152
Name a single major criticism of a holo that's happened that you wouldn't call a schizo post but actual criticism

[Anonymous No.]

Stupid white western whore being a stupid white western whore. Why are you even surprised?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751182
Look at half of Hololive JP's population, who stream from a couple times a week to a couple times a month, and are still perfectly respectable streamers and VTubers because they have other shit to do for their job

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>>4749348
DEADBRAPS BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751208
Everyone’s paycheck gets taxed, what’s your point.
Also she works for a company - they cover any expenses she incurs in her work. Computers, software, etc. Probably even train fare.

[Anonymous No.]

https://streamable.com/w998lp

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751356
>Shion and Ayame have pulled
quick rundown?

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>>4751389
they stream like once a week if you're lucky

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751323
if he's talking about the screenshot i saw, the message gets censored like [message deleted] and it looks like the money is kept

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>>4750858
What else would you call threads used near exclusively to dunk on someone with open insults and doomposting rrats because of a single collab with an anituber, then, faggot? At this point it's even worse than whatever Orcschizo hoped to accomplish, because her shit was mostly contained in /hlgg/. If that word bothers you, then remove it and refute the original fucking point of the board being flooded with low quality posts that you've been avoiding instead of telling the other party to fuck off already, newnigger.

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>>4750075
>A company that a lot of her senpai will defend to death.

they stream video games retard, it's not that big of a deal. they delete channels when members get booted out, there is no "defending to the death" with hololive

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>>4750899
>>4751027
>she doesn't need to not paywall most of her streams in the month
>she doesn't need sing anything but her own four songs in karaokes
>she doesn't need to produce her own music despite taking full credit for it
>she doesn't need to rap Godzilla
>she doesn't need to play Doom
>she doesn't need to play videogames
>she doesn't need to know Japanese
>she doesn't need to put any effort in collabs
>she doesn't need to collab with Holos
>she doesn't need to be fun to watch
>she doesn't need to stream
>she doesn't need to care
>she doesn't need to be in Hololive
I'm sure there's more.

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>>4751382
>Also she works for a company - they cover any expenses she incurs in her work. Computers, software, etc. Probably even train fare.
How new?
https://youtu.be/feTpmMRah3g
https://youtu.be/KwYsDj3SASw

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>>4751356
Can’t really do that when you have 7 sub tiers lol. She wants her cake and to eat it too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749912
>spent producing recording, writing lyrics, drawing, editing MVs
Why can't she share this with us, then? Obviously not the actual content, but it's not as if she hasn't talked about the process before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751220
>bursts her ass everyday
wagie get in cagie

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751058
yea 6% big fucking deal

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751463
Yes there is idiot, Miko, Suisei, Kanata, Marine, etc. would all be dying on the streets without Yagoo's holy hand

[Anonymous No.]

I like this level of honesty. At this rate it won't be long until she's openly mocking deadbraps
> Look at these cucks, they just keep throwing money no matter how little effort I put in. They don't even care that I hate them, they say that my needs come first!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751461
>Single collab
It’s about all her HL collabs being pretty bad and then suddenly her shit with her friends is good. You can’t beg and plead to collab with 3rd parties while shitting the bed with your group and especially genmates constantly for almost a year.

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>>4751463
Multiple holos have talked about Hololive basically saving them, though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751461
>rrats
who's the arbiter of what's a rrat and what isnt? you? a plebbitor who's mad he cant control the flow of conversation like he can on plebbit or twitter?

get the fuck back to your hugbox where you can and leave us alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751373
cause when they do actually stream and collab they dont act like a wet blanket

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751526
She was literally a wagie 9 months ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751486
BASED
KEKBRAPS BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751486
This is fundamentally a management problem. Good management takes out a rotten apple before it spoils the whole bunch. Bad management fixates on not throwing apples away (in this case thinking Calli’s numbers aren’t replaceable) and ends up with a pile of rotten fruit.

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>>4749348
Whore.

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>>4751463
A lof of JP members literally said they'd be dying in the street without hololive and are grateful for their jobs. Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
this is literally no different than what gura would say under similar circumstances. 5% of her day and the rest is a mystery to all of us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751565
And again, the only people who are going to fall for that are dead subs and tourists. Everyone else actually saw those collabs and knows they're usually as good as the Gigguk stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751488
Paying someone to compose your music and make merch not sold by your company is entirely different. Those in and of themselves are not business expenses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751612
Sure, so you admit that Mori does actually care about Hololive, like Ayame, Shion, etc., but Mori just isn't that good of a streamer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751619
Only 9 months of freedom changed her entire mindset. Think about that.

[Anonymous No.]

can you kindly post in youtube as he streamable link is not working

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751670
Maybe so but Gura at least has energy in her streams and doesn't drag down collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get it can someone explain the context
>you guys are only 5% of my life, I don't care if you're unhappy with me
That seems pretty definitive to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751670
The difference is that Gura doesn't pretend she has something better to do that 95% of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751670
alcohol & clubbing

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749490
Ok deadcuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751726
true. she certainly wouldn't say "i cancelled/moved karaoke and i literally don't care." i mean i could imagine her saying that if she was in a really bad mood but immediately backpedaling the next day. she's spineless and it probably helps her numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751740
No. Watch the stream or go back to Hololive Moments

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751785
Yeah, literally no one would say that other than Mori lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751689
Are you delusional? She might’ve well had printed “DNR” across her head for the latest Coco and Gura collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749893
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>4750981
As you can see in the case of Mori - you clearly can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751771
>alcohol
sure
>clubbing
you really think gura goes out clubbing? are you clinically retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>you know, you guys are like 5% of my time, and it’s cool and all, but the other 95% of my time is very important to me. So you know what, I don’t care if I miss stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
>I've a life besides pretending to be an anime girl
Shocking. Every fucking holo is like this, this is just a job, what the fuck are you retards expecting from them? That they truly and unironically love CORPORATE and their faceless audience?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751486
Based Shazam

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751851
She's working as an entertainer, so the least she could do is fucking entertain people on her streams and not being a wet blanket every time.

[Anonymous No.]

The funny part to me about this is that she's not even addressing the general criticism she's been getting recently.
She's talking specifically about the few people unhappy that she scheduled an unarchived karaoke god knows how long ago and has been steadily postponing it since.

After months and months of getting feedback about postponing streams, claiming she doesn't like postponing streams, vowing not to postpone streams come hell or high water and proudly reaffirming her commitment to not postpone streams, her final word on the matter is "I know I've postponed this highly anticipated stream a bunch and some people are... """unhappy""" but I don't care"
And then proceeds to drop the 5% line.

I skipped her karaokes even when I was following the rest of her content faithfully but boy I don't envy the people that actually give a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751795
Okay so the op is right and everyone's justification for her being an awful person is pretty much spot on. Got it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751851
They sure fucking do, they'd literally be starving to death without Cover corp and their audiences

[Anonymous No.]

Simply put, Mori believes that her hauling ass justifies her being an asshole in conflicts, regardless of the conflict.
Anybody here knows that dude in their life who, once you try and ask him to listen instead of talk for once, sees it as an existential threat to their entire sense of self. They're weak inherently, because they're afraid to be weak on purpose

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751827
>he doesn't know about miami

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751851
Yes they do truly love the company they've built up from nothing and have a passion for entertainment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751795
sounds like cope, cuckbrap

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751911
She does that already with her white girl rap tracks, and everyone loved that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751937
Simply put, Mori is a conceited dumbass who doesn't respect the fact that she would be nothing and nobody without hololive

[Anonymous No.]

This sure is giving me Clinton vibes

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751922
when cumbud got his akasupa deleted for genuine concern was when I realized mori's a bigger threat to holoEN than kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751373
>and are still perfectly respectable streamers and VTubers because they have other shit to do for their job
Anon, Shion's 'other shit' is literally being depressed, she doesn't do anything else
Ayame doesn't care about Hololive and anybody with a brain has been saying this for almost 2 years now. She cares about her friends in Hololive. But at least Ayame keeps her trashy bullshit out of it, when she isn't sarcastically snapping at her chat with barely held back anger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752029
This one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752016
Hey now, she would be a struggling indie rapper teaching english to little shits 8 hours a day

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751717
You're not making a very compelling case, here

[Anonymous No.]

The sheep mob mentality overtaking these threads is pathetic. Looking pretty similar to the other shit forums this place has traditionally criticized for their groupthink. Embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751208
Of course it's taxed, everyones income gets taxed. And it gets taxed more when you earn a very high amount, like she does. Should I just mail her a bag of cash instead?

[Anonymous No.]

Hey Cuckbraps, can you finally decide if your go-to copexcuse is going to be

>(A): n-nooooo, she totally cares about Hololive! It's just that she does most of her stuff off stream so you just don't see it as much...

or

>(B): w-well, fuck Hololive anyways, so what if she doesn't care for them, she's too good for them anyway!

because I see you trying to deflect by pushing both angles and you should really get your astroturf script straight in your daily discord sessions, because no one buys your shit if you can't decide between "she totally cares" and "she's right not to care for Hololive". Just a friendly tip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752068
ye

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752068
based cumbud

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
>Get hired by the biggest vtuber agency in the world
>Become an overnight hit, get millions of hits on your songs
>Start sulking that you can't collab with charlie even though you're riding on the success of the brand
>Ignore all your senpais and continue interacting solely with your small clique
>The only collab you put effort into is the one where you can collab with Gigacuck your irl friend
>Admit to your fans that your streams (the main part of your job as a vtuber) are only 5% of your time and the rest of your time is spent looking to get in top hat mans pants
Can Mori even be redeemed at this point? This is gross

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752077
Oh yeah, you wanna actually provide an argument instead of hiding behind lameass excuses?

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't you just not watch Mori if you think she is so bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752077
Yeah, deadbraps are truly terrible, aren't they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751486
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
STAY AWAY SHAZAM
he's going to be right again, isn't he?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
>I only bother spending 5% of my time on the job that gets me 95% of my income
Yeah I think that's the problem actually you dumb cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
LOL she keeps digging

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751561
Mori would unironically be a great findom streamer, with both her model and personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752087
Holo's fanbases aren't a hivemind.

It's kinda like how some chumbuds are grade schoolers, but others just want to have sex with grade schoolers

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751937
She's just like my sister. She's abusive to everyone around her, dependent on everyone around her, yet thinks everything should go her way because she works all day, despite all her work does for her is give her grievances.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751689
You just know who doesn't watch mori and just wants to be part of a team

[Anonymous No.]

>>4750911
No you idiot she was sucking dick for years to stay alive and in Japan before cover handed success to her on a silver platter

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751488
Gotta spend money to make money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752087
Mori is a strong woman! she had a shitty job and a rough past!! She does what she wants!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752239
and most of all, they both made you cry when they refused to suck your cock

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752016
>conceited
She's only conceited about people that like her.
She's a drooling self-deprecating coward with anybody she likes or that don't give her attention. That one dude who wrote a song about her to tell her to fuck off is proof. She will chase the people that refuse to validate her. She desires those who don't want her. Once you want her, you're beneath her, and she no longer gives a fuck about you, because she's better than you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
>Some people are upset I broke my promise and lied about something I said I'd do for the umpteenth time
>But I don't care because Hololive shit isn't my priority LMAO
How do Cuckbeats cope with this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752226
>you can't be a grade schooler that wants to fuck other grade schoolers
gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752310
Sorry, I think you misspelled Suisei, because Mori is an arrogant dumbass who got given a free ticket to success and is still fucking it up

[Anonymous No.]

>the absolute seething in this thread
If it wasn't painfully obvious you tourists don't actually watch the streams and instead rely on clipniggers, it wouldn't be funny.
Can't wait to see which next shiny object you niggers will focus on next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752345
That's all women, not just Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752373
>How do Cuckbeats cope with this?
YASSSS QUEEEEEN YOU GO GIRL!!! DO WHAT YOU WANT WE COME SECOND :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751316
That's right, they didn't give her a green card for being a soundcloud rapper, they gave her a green card for being an English teaching assistant and a wageslave at Starbucks WHILE doing her rap shit on the side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752123
I wouldn't even care about this is if she could phone it in for her genmates/jp senpais but she can't even manage that. There are idols who have done reprehensible things but as long as they apologize and publicly be a team player people don't care. We'll see in the coming weeks if she moderates her tantrum and isn't a liability waiting to graduate and drama whore for clicks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752041
>Ayame keeps her trashy bullshit out of it, when she isn't sarcastically snapping at her chat with barely held back anger.
Clips? This sounds entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751461
We were doomposting the same stuff about Ollie months ago dumbass and look at that we were right then too. Yabs out the ass and a fucking VSHOJO COLLAB is upcoming but of course that was never going to happen since you stupid fucks were saying that back then as your dismissing cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749740
Thanks for the advice, I'll actually go watch Lamy who happens to be my oshi. Her social life is fine, she hangs out with other Holo girls and her non-Holo friends, she takes her time to do her reps. She also has really close bonds with her family. Her viewers are important to her but of course not to the extent of not having anything else in her life. So she respects herself and gets on with her life. Now what about Lamy's viewers? Surely there are a lot of miserable gachikois, but Lamy actively encourages people to do their reps and get through their real life stuff, like work or school. Her content is GFE at times but first of all it's a healing experience, it's having someone who will genuinely try to make your shitty day a bit better to the best of their ability.
Let's see:
>Lamy. Like any sane person she has her life outside of Hololive and streams. She shares with her viewers some things that she's able to and wants to. If it's Hololive related stuff it shows that she's working hard and making progress on her goals, like reaching out to senpais, getting better at singing, working on her projects etc. Her vtuber job is not 100% of her life but she does it properly, which includes keeping her promises and contributing to the sense of unity, which is a huge selling point for a lot of Hololive fans. A pleasant bonus: gen 5 chemistry is amazing and every member, including Lamy, contributed to it from the start.
>Mori. Like any sane person she has her life outside of Hololive and streams. She shares with her viewers... not so much, we're only 5% after all. Besides we're not her IRL friends and not her favorite ecelebs, not anitubers. If it's Hololive related stuff it shows that... uhh... she's really busy? Possibly working on her music? Other aspects like improving her time management, caring about her senpais etc. seem non-existent, because she either doesn't talk about it or makes empty promises and doesn't keep them. Her vtuber job is not 100% of her life but she... actually no buts, this sure as fuck can't be called "doing her job properly". She often doesn't manage even a bare minimum of effort needed. A not-so-pleasant bonus: her collab chemistry with her genmates is non-existent, and she doesn't even try most of the time, while her eceleb friends get the best treatment and collabs full of energy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752145
Why don't you think most people who're tired of her shit haven't done that already?

She can be as lame in her solo streams all that she wants. But when she brings her bullshit attitude also into collabs streams with OTHER girls that people actually want to watch, you can't blame them speaking up again when they have to endure her shit again.

See for example how the current Mori criticism blew up again after she had a few very poor COLLAB performances recently, and fans of the other girls (who have long dropped and ignored Mori and her solo streams) were exposed to her regressed attitude again, and want her to do better so she doesn't shit up future collabs with their favorite girls again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752077
>forums
Go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749912
The other 95% is her having sex with me

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752415
>don't actually watch the streams and instead rely on clipniggers
Hey, see the bright side, that's one step above Mori!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752345
>That one dude who wrote a song about her to tell her to fuck off
link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752415
5% deadbeats
95% sucking off Gr*nt
Honestly someone needed to fill the cuckholding niche in Hololive, glad it was the wigger

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: Retards who don't actually watch streams. Seriously, you're all a fucking clipnigger hivemind.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=9892&v=xTXgCF-Ezyk&feature=youtu.be

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752221
If she did that she would be absolved of all wrongdoing in my mind because that's a fucking hilarious way for this to end and probably better for her in the long run

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752437
Be a Lamy, not a Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752520
>Le Garnt meme
He's literally already married to one of the Vshojo whores, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDiWiV4JUfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggi7JtCwZ2k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy8_M9wnl-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rvhk1kgp4I
Literally just YT search stuff like "Ayame snaps" like I did to find these in a few seconds
A lot of moments weren't clipped and/or were lost to the Holocaust, though. There's more, too. I seem to recall something in one of the 3D CoC SENPAITACHI did more than a year ago.
Ayame has anger issues, unironically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752591
Be a literally any other Hololive member, not a Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752587
>screaming and crying about "muh cuckbeats" while literally begging her to make findom streams based on his delusional psycosis and fetish for verbal abuse
You antis are so fucking transparent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751851
I'm pretty sure a lot of the holos have nothing better to do with their time than stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752586
>lying words
>actions
guess which one /vt/ gives priority for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752432
>muh vshojo boogieman

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752442
The current criticism only blew up because Mori deleted the archive and tweeted in the most passive aggressive fashion possible.
Just skip the collab if you don't like her, it's just 1 stream. Personally, I never watch any collabs with Kiara or HoloID.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752698
>schizobabble
Don't care, didn't ask, pus you're a Chink.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751711
compare the gura and gigguk collab and you have your answer

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752687
Yeah, none of them sing or make music at all, or record their voices for anything, or plan for future streams, or any of that at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752421
>he's never had a woman fall hysterically in love with him to the point where she idealizes you enough to frame everything you do positively in her mind, especially your desiring of her
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752586
What's the context that makes Mori saying she doesn't give a shit if people are upset she flat out lied about unarchived Karaoke because streaming takes up 5% of her time and she has better things to do than keep promises to her fans who pay $25 a month to see all her content

[Anonymous No.]

so when is someone going to put together a compilation of all the lies mori has told onstream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752586
see >>4751257

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752751
>Chink
hahahah wait are you cuckbraps running with this damage control instead of arguing the point at hand? even kfp were better at trying to explain their oshi's POV.

I get why you niggers are called cuckbeats

[Anonymous No.]

Do any of you actually like vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752437
Based Yukimin. After listening to her recent ASMR and witnessing first hand just powerful Lamy is (I ended up grinning like an idiot while resting in bed) I'm convinced Lamy's quality. So you got me to take the plunge and sub. I'm gonna sub to Botan too since I'm also subbed to Polka and membered to Nene.

What are Lamy's member streams like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752739
>don't collab if you don't like her
Gura and Mori have literally never had a problem with eachother, retard. Mori was just too busy or too lazy to sort out streaming permissions for River City Girls, and Cuphead shat itself for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752596
Thanks for linking. Didn't really seem that bad though, mostly just clickbait titles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749845
HELLO IS THIS POMU

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752771
Compare any other collab with Gura and Mori, retard, your RRAT ain't worth shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752786
Anon, there are days that Pekora will wake up, egosearch, eat, egosearch, take a shit and shower, start the stream, and then and only then try and figure out what to do
Then she'll stop the stream, take a nap, read manga, egosearch, take another shit, eat lunch, egosearch, nap again, and wake up, just to start another stream she didn't prep

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752415
Of course I don't watch her streams, her content always was garbage. It also means that I never had any reason to be mad at her. Until she brought this anituber cancer in. Holo management should have known better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752846
Where the fuck did I say anything about not collabing? I'm telling you to not watch the collab if you don't like the person involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752846
If only Mori liked Gura as much as she likes Gigacuck she would've put the same amount of effort into preparing so the stream wasn't a scuffed pile of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752846
>Cuphead shat itself for no reason.
Maybe not even installing the game before the collab started had to do with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752905
>of course I don't watch her streams
So everything you've said is meaningless schizobabble then, glad we've established that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
>>4749414
>>4749415
>>4749450
>>4749459
>>4751774
>>4749508
>>4749987
>>4749992
>>4750012
>>4750010
>>4749942
>>4750026
>>4750131
>>4750655
>>4750911
>>4752298
>>4752414
>>4752146
>>4752087
>>4752345
>>4752373
>>4752424
>>4752829
>>4752591
>>4752633
>>4752939
No one cares. Kill yourself dramafags

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752939
>if only she liked her colleague who she's only known for like 8 months and already gets on with really well as much as one of her only Emglish-speaking freinds in Japan, maybe I'd post less schizobabble
Wow, good one faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752840
Botan's laugh is a different kind of healing but a good one. Her recent TABS stream was hillarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752975
deadbraps brapping now

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752975
All me

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752840
If you're looking for some good ASMR and JOJO/John whick whatchalongs that's the place for you. (also the 15 minute ASMR video)

[Anonymous No.]

I actually feel bad for Deadbeats now. What are you even paying money for if she just cancels her promises and justifies it with idc lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753057
>only
>8 months
>already gets on with really well
You're delusional, and since you're mentioning japan, calli is as awful as she always is in streams with kiara, the one person who was her friend in japan from her gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752975
>no one cares
>while replying to everyone who cares
Um... Deadbrap...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
That's not what she said you fucking retard.
Off yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753132
If you're looking for some good ASMR and JOJO/John whick whatchalongs that's the place for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752975
DEADBRAPS QUOTING NOW
DEADBRAPS QUOTING NOW
DEADBRAPS QUOTING NOW

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753057
If only Mori was actually professional and put as much effort into all her streams as she does the ones where she gets to hang out with irl friends and get paid for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753141
lol deadcucks don’t care

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
Slut.

[Anonymous No.]

can we call deadbeats 5%ers now

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751972
that's an hour's drive away, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753152
Theyve internalized the transparently performative attitude of modern Americans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752437
>Her content is GFE at times
>at times
Anon she may be doing it out of love but there is not a doubt in my mind that some part of Lamy is secretly titillated about building a reverse harem.
She's insecure about not being your #1 and only holo, so she quite literally airs her frustrations of her confused feelings out loud(which she does a lot in general, see "pretty pantsu make me feel more confident" and "man I was naked and sweaty during that ASMR", among other things like a literal proposal). She even said that she wanted us to hug her daki during ASMR and that that was one of the main reasons she put it out.
Also, we've known that she likes muscles for a long time now, and what has she recently done, and hinted at doing? Taking a stronger approach at exercising, and then at publicizing her exercise, and then talking about using it to inspire us to exercise because she wants us to be healthy.
Mind you, she gives a fuck, but I have to say it, if you don't think there's not a small part of Lamy(that even she might be confused about) that is titillated by and is emotionally connected to the idea of her being the center of some bizarre reverse harem, I think your attention has been somewhat selective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749912
Paying other people to produce your music and in some case's write lyrics is actually pretty easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753225
Gladly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753256
why are you talking about Lamy in the Mori thread now lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753256
sounds based to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753238
>he really lacks the knowledge regarding miami

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753171
>not what she said
>link is a video of her saying it word by word uncut
Uhhhh

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752415
Clipniggers know how to pronounce Reine, they know she is a peacock and not actually a turkey and they know she is one of the three Hololive members who is Calli's kouhai, not senpai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752975
Specifically Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
brapsharts jerk it now!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753221
This
They're doing it because their tastes were attacked at some point and they got angry, at this point it's not about Mori anymore, it's just projection

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749740
>pay money
>dont get services you paid for
>"I shouldnt hold her accountable because that would be me pretending she's my girlfriend and that would be problematic and triggering humu humu"
lole

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752068
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheDeadmanstrolling/discussion
based containment breaker

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753272
ok give me suisei's album

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753225
5 braps til sunday

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752437
Based Lamy. I have nothing but respect for good work ethic.

[Anonymous No.]

Mori pulling this shit is quite ironic when she made a song shitting on people that only bitch but don't work their asses off to get fame

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753302
It is based and I will cherish any girl who is so selectively menhera that her menhera has wrapped out to -1 and she's now turned mental illness into a genuine form of functional, supportive love unavailable to most people

[Anonymous No.]

/vt/dramawhores are like vapid teenage girls who just fucking gossip about celebrities all day, except they dont even watch the content they post about. only you mentally ill neets could turn a minute-long clip into multiple threads over several days.
and this only happened because some deadbeat thought it would be funny to paint the board pink by posting it on hlgg.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753318
I hope you're just pretending to be retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752786
>Sarcastically responds about how they do things outside of streaming
>By only listing examples related to their streaming
For fucks sake anon you could have at least said that they hang out with their friends or something. You really don't see the person behind the avatar at all do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752710
We're always right and you people have no respect or care for anything even if you're literally paying for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751580
>tripling down on nonsensical false equivalency while admitting to not even reading the threads
Yeah, in a true plebbit fashion retards like you started creating their own hugboxes by seething en masse over literally fucking nothing hoping it will ever make a difference, and if this was ever considered a conversation, then I am more than happy to stay here and laugh at your perpetuating wallowing in feces. Take your own advice and get the fuck out where you belong first if you can't deal with others mocking your unfounded faggotry. You're not providing anything to the conversation other than throwing shit we had to deal with /jp/ long ago, just like the faggot below. Call me back when the next Holocaust happens, not when a Holo vtuber collabs with a fucking male.
>>4752432
>a fucking VSHOJO COLLAB is upcoming but of course that was never going to happen since you stupid fucks were saying that back then as your dismissing cope
And again, the only ones coping are fucks like you who seek le final yab approaching 24/7 for some retarded fucking reason. The same idiotic nonsense was being spread about Nijisanji 2 years back, and surprise surprise, everyone between the 2 companies is friendly and has collabed with each other multiple times and nothing came out of it, just as nothing came out of JP talents streaming with IRL people before but of course you can't know that because you're an EOP newfag enabled by HoloEN's arrival and in dire need of a tribalistic niggerism over pixels on the screen. You weren't ever right about jack shit, so neck yourself already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753422
She does work her ass off to get fame, thats not the issue here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752869
She's a Japanese woman so let that temper what you can expect. Remember that in Japanese if you want to say "What the fuck is wrong with you?", you instead say something like "That's, uh..."
Don't expect their snapping to be our snapping. It's all in the tone and suddenness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752633
Okay, you have a new Artia now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752129
I don't care to make an excuse, because I don't care about Mori. I only recognize her merit and contributions to her company and those that choose to watch her. I have no interest in being disingenuous because I have no biased narrative I wish to push. The facts are apparent and only an objective interpretation is required to understand them.
But since that appears to be too much of a challenge for some here, regarding the collab that started this shitshow, there is enough evidence for me to believe that Gigguk's involvement in it is limited to his expertise in the game, having achieved the highest rank in it from playing it for 1k hours. Mori wants to get good at the game, and Gigguk has enough experience with the game and enjoys it himself. She can now try to redeem herself in a tournament and find closure since she was BTFO'd by Kiara the first time around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751522
You have to pay T3 for that :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752771
I'll buy into this one when I see the upcoming mori/coco/ollie collab

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/VNel79gPOZI?t=3361

Uhhh 5%beats??? How come Amelia cares 14x more than your Oshi??

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753330
>>4753185
>>4753152
>>4753241
>>4753077
You're a minority. Die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753515
>hugboxes
you keep using this word, you dont know what it means. GET THE FUCK BACK NIGGER and cry about this thread to your plebbit mods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753516
Sure she did, she literally applied as a half-joke, got accepted, went viral via a song she had produced for her with unlimited budget, barely puts in any effort actually streaming. That hardly counts as work at all compared to what Sora, Suisei, and 1kisei went through

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752975
you did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753563
nah she was sucking his thai dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
amelia is THE gatekeeper in holoEN. even Ina comes 2nd to ame's gatekeeping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753579
Imagine how much worse things will get if she wet blankets that tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
Kek dedbraps are pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753652
ok 5%. At least my oshi likes streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753652
so this the power of braping.

[Anonymous No.]

Five poor-cent

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753446
I was talking about how they put effort into their careers other than streaming, the exact proportions with which they spend their time don't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
UH
UHHHH
BUY YOU SEE
AMELIA DOESN'T HAVE A ~LIFE~ LIKE YOUR BOY DOES
WHAT'S THAT """"DEATH-SENSEI""""? I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS?
OH WELL
NO ONE CARES

[Anonymous No.]

>>4750819
Shazam poster
I KNEEL

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753652
Leave the 5%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752710
>muh vshojo boogieman
>slippery slope strawman fallacy lol
>muh anituber boogieman
>slippery slope strawman fallacy lol
>muh twitch streamer boogieman
>slippery slope strawman fallacy lol
>muh shift to roommate content
>slippery slope strawman fallacy lol
>muh more badmouthing of Cover/fans
>slippery slope strawman fallacy lol
>muh causing problems for the company
>slippery slope strawman fallacy lol
>muh trying to bring other holos roommates out
>slippery slope strawman fallacy lol
>muh causing debilitating gachikoi flight
>slippery slope strawman fallacy lol
>muh Hololive is dying because of Mori
>slippery slope strawman fallacy lol
>muh destroyed a hobby for tens of thousands of people
>slippery slope strawman fallacy lol

[Anonymous No.]

you guys are going to get btfo in mori's next song

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753677
She clearly puts in a lot of effort when it comes to releasing music, even before hololive. Its just clear at this point shes using her fanbase for money to fund her actual interests that she does work hard to succeed in. Just because those 1kisei didnt get lucky doesnt mean Mori didnt work hard to make her music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752345
...she's a woman?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753497
that's an astounding lack of self-awareness

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753864
oh no, whatever will i do...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
Never been prouder to be a Teamate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751771
Do they give out juice boxes at night clubs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753893
You're right anon they do lack self awareness

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
SOMEONE STOP ME, I'M NOT ABLE TO CLOSE IT AND IM AT 59 MINS NOW, I THINK I'LL WATCH THE REMAINING 30 MINS FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753864
Is that because it's too much effort to do it by just getting her shit together for her streaming content that it needs to be in a song?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753744
That would seriously be interesting to witness

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
FEELS SO FUCKING GOOD

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone really expect anything else out of a white female rapper?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753913
>>4753810
>>4753762
>>4753751
>>4753748
>>4753689
>>4753651
>>4753927
OK 50 cent army

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
>uhh yeahh this thing is 5% of my life and you are less than that
LMFAO THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF BRAPKEKS

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753864
>/vt/ jerk it now
>/vt/ jerk it now
>/vt/ jerk it now
Can't wait for that lyrical masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone tell me what Mori is so busy with the other 95% of her time? She quit her actual job and is one of the most superchatted people on the planet, literally what is stopping her from putting a modicum of effort in her streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753864
I'm sure whoever is actually writing it is going to have some strong words

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753563
>only recognize her merit and contributions to her company and those that choose to watch her.
What merit has she brought to the company's talents? They're a part of the company, but they benefit directly from different things that the company itself directly benefits from. Clearly if she provides value to the company, she must've done so for other holos, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749912
https://youtu.be/VNel79gPOZI?t=3361

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752895
So what you're saying is Pekora is the embodiment of talent and charisma?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753652
I think 5% is the minority...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
Based beyond belief.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754027
She is truly a linguistic genius. Mori>Nabokov

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754012
>he calls people brainwashed
>when all he does is mindlessly insult people who disagree with him
>the people he attacks try and put forth at least the appearance of logically structured arguments
>he calls them schizo to deflect and goes back to being angry
I guess in a way, deadbeats are cucks to Mori like Chinese are cucks for Winnie

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
You know maybe I should give Amelia a second chance. She always struck as pretty fake but she always seems to put a ton of effort in what she does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753864
oh wow.... another cringe whitegirl jwigger song, whoa I'm so afraid...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753864
Whats it going to be about? How her "haters" are mad she is giving anituber MEN their key into hololive and how the haters are incels too? I sure everyone that dislikes her is going to listen to her content!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
I love... Amelia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754029
Her roommate getting to join that tour with those other guys she's a fan of probably requires a lot of bending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753864
Reminder this is what Mori sees her fans as:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5GONDGSvX8
People who are abused but keep coming back for me for reasons she doesn't (and likely doesn't care to) get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754029
watching ch*rlie streams
dooting some """music""" into cubase
drinking with her newfound eceleb RL friends where they talk about how lame and cringe Hololive and its fanbase are

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754047
Unironically, yes
Pekora is exactly what a talent in Hololive should be. Invested, vulnerable to/malleable by true criticism made by her fans, while being rock solid against criticism done by antis, and genuinely emotionally invested in and dependent upon the approval of her viewers while keeping a grounded view of the importance of maintaining a positive mindset to then share with her nousagi.
Pekora is the apex holo because she has made it her life goal to unconditionally love and do what she can to be the kind of person who can make people happy and has conditioned herself to feel happy when she makes other people happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754094
I will gladly suck the cum out of Mori's cunt, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754047
the 1 hour botan collab yesterday. I didnt understand one japanese word and my sides were gone 30 mins in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
Damn it feels good to be a 75%mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754044
Oh fuck that's really god damn cute
Teammates groom her harder god damnit

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754029
She has the roommate excuse.
I'll be honest, I legitimately think she just threw that random 5% number without actually giving much thought to how little it makes it sounds at first, when trying to essentially say "I do many many things in parallel with Hololive". Everyone just takes it and runs with it over here though (and honestly it's pretty hillarious).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749414
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753879
I acknowledge that she put effort into her pre-Holo songs (although not as much as Suisei did, to be totally honest), but the moment she got handed an opportunity she just cruised and let Cover's infinite budget and her English-speaking anime girl voice and avatar carry her way ahead of anything she ever deserved.

If she was a member of 0/1kisei she'd have long since given up. It's only 5% of her life anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754238
We know deadbeat, it's time to stop proudly reminding us about it

[Anonymous No.]

is 5%braps the new official name for her fans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754341
yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754148
If you actually watched the stream this thread has been about, she's got a senpai collab song releasing this month, and another senpai collab with two of them next month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754216
>Pekora tells her fans not to mention her on other streams to not start shit, tells them to not bite the baits
>Mori thinks her fans come from the TT podcast
I never thought I would be kneeling to nousagis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753141
Eh it's just 5% of their time

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754238
based falseflagger

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754381
>/vt/ watching streams
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754341
It's just the 5% for me. They don't deserve to be spoken of as individuals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754381
Tomorrow she gets to prove everyone right, or somehow prove us all wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754285
5% is not a random pull. You don't pull 5% out when you want to talk about your literal main job. You pull like around 70-80ish if you REALLY like it/are busy, 40-50ish if it's you're just coasting and a little detached, and somewhere around 20ish if you are really at a low point but still think of the job as "your job".
5% is a number you pull when you deliberately low ball it for the purposes of negatively depicting it's importance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
>75%mates
>5%beats
The shitposting is writing itself, haven't seen deadbeats get a trashing like this since 2020

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754381
I hope she will put some effort into learning their names before the stream this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754242
>botan
Ok but that's cheating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Prc9biIfk

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348

Holy fuck Mori that 5% pays for your remaining 95% dumb bitch. Hololive is the only reason why you were able to drop your garbage low paying jobs and actually move forward.

Fuck this dumb whore seriously. I was never an anti for anyone but she's so fucking retarded. She shouldn't be in Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754318
I 100% agree with you on that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754474
>haven't seen deadbeats get a trashing like this since 2020
Well deserved since some of them what to be in hardcore denial over this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754381
With her favorite senpai Rain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754381
>senpai collab
You mean something produced by a third party that has lines by someone she has never talked to, like the Watame one?
>another senpai collab with two of them next month
Next month as in "starting next month", right? Since she's had plenty of delayed song releases despite apparently mixing and writing them with her own blood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754238
Just cut out the middleman and suck the cum directly from your oshi's favorite eceleb dick, will ya?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754453
This. Not only is this number low, it's also ridiculously low. She is spending way more time on hololive, so why be like "pssh only 5% of my important rapper time is Hololive and shareable"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754453
>You pull like around 70-80ish if you REALLY like it/are busy, 40-50ish if it's you're just coasting and a little detached, and somewhere around 20ish if you are really at a low point but still think of the job as "your job".
What? A healthy normal person should have their job as approximately 33% of their life, no more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754488
Botan laughing is healing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKtXWjMShoU

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754388
Say what you will about nousagis, but a lot of our dumb behavior stems from genuine excitement because of how much our oshi spoils us
No other holo except Rushia has been as dramatically emotionally effected and defensive of one of her fans(literally a fucking rando) getting targeted online to the point of publicly airing her emotions about it on stream. When your oshi gets pissed (or in Rushia's case, is driven to literal tears) that somebody hurt you, and then goes into a quick talk about how she loves you and to never let them convince you otherwise, it's hard to not let that sense of security get to your head.
Pekora is a godsend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754100
>She always struck as pretty fake but she always seems to put a ton of effort in what she does.
Both are true. Amelia probably is pretty fake and it's not a bad thing. She takes her job more seriously than her peers and basically works to cut out the ugly and give the best end experience possible.
Wanting your oshi to be real with you is naive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754453
I'm just coping anon. I also wanted to bring up her autistic brain as another possible reason for her to say 5% in my first post, but didn't know how.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751922
This is the heart of the matter. She claimed she cared for months, but now it's revealed she doesn't. You're only 5%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754569
Yeah, but if you have a public entertainer position you're supposed to be extremely invested in you would normally give a lot more than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754569
>What? A healthy normal person should have their job as approximately 33% of their life, no more.
Even Mori would disagree with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753864
> She'd rather make a rap song than not ruin a collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754569
A full-time job (40 hrs/week in America) is exactly 50% of your weekday (16waking hours x 5 days = 80 hours). People who are super passionate about their work frequently put in 50-60 hour weeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751972
>>4753238
>>4753314
Why do all the biggest and greatest youtubers originate in Florida?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
based gremlin

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754603
meanwhile Suisei doesn't even read superchats and Hoshiyomis loves her to death and want to drink her piss
Must be that mathematically perfect voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754689
Sleep is an important part of your life and only counting waking hours is dishonest and undervalues your own health.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754036
There are different types of people, and thus different types of streamers. Conveniently, this allows for different niches to be filled in a field that's constantly competing for viewers' limited time. I don't really watch the ENs outside of specific promos/collabs, but she has a unique enough identity and persona that produces enough unique content to draw viewers' interest, like any of the other moderately successful Holo. If anything you fags should be grateful that they decided to try the western market with HoloEN, although obviously they'd be retarded not to at some point. But hey, some companies hadn't done so at that time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753864
actually made me laugh irl, well done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754746
8 hours of sleep a day is the recommended amount for health and what I factored into my calculation

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754751
Calli is arguably the most unique Hololive member there is. Unique never meant good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749912
copium surely is a strong drug

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
Kiara may make some mistakes but that orange bitch also says that Hololive has sucked up all her time so... there's also Ina that has a job as an artist but still streams putting more care into it than Mori honestly this is just embarrassing deadbeats, having Mori as an oshi is like being the captain of the titanic

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754783
I think we agree with each other and are just using different math, my "work should be 33% of your life" was 33% of a 24 hour day, not a 16 hour waking day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754629
>I'm just coping anon.
Ah, my sympathies friend, I mean that unironically. I'm glad you haven't fallen deep enough into the trap of rationalization to convince yourself that you're perfectly okay with anything though, that's something that few people manage to do and it's a mindset worth being proud of, even if it sucks sometimes.
If it helps, I once had a similar thing, not with an oshi but I didn't have one at the time and she was the closest to it. Got disappointed, felt like absolute shit. I used GFE clips/streams of another holo to literally love bomb myself back into a more positive frame of mind with regards to the hobby. Figured I'd say something because it sucks when you begin to feel the cognitive dissonance and losing interest in hobbies because of it can lead to a knock-on effect in other areas of your life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754861
Oh I misunderstood. I get your view now

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754453
This. If you ever tell your employer your work is 5% of your life, it wont be received well, no matter what you do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754861
>>4754961
Though conveniently a 40 hour work week also works out to about 33% if you don't count time asleep but do count time awake on weekends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754530
I still can't get over this
> Name one of your favorite Japanese senpai! Anyone is fine!
> Uh... The Indonesian kouhai whose name I can't really remember...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754833
That's on Yagoo and the staff though. I heard he likes unique people. And sorry, I have to give them credit for their talent searching. For whatever reasons, it's been pretty successful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755039
didn't she bolt out Azki, Sui, WTM before when she was asked that though

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754711
>hoshiyomis love her to death
Yeah, all 5 of them here. Also, if they loved her to death, they would've actually SC'd.
I'll be honest, there's a reason that previous indies in Holo have some of the most dedicated fanbases, and the answer is always "previous indies". Miko, Suisei, Robocco; their fanbases are all slavishly devoted in terms of attitude. Because the bedrock of their fanbase are the super obsessed who found them and stuck with them from the very beginning in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

Given that viewers take after the streamer I think we should all understand that the reason the 5%beats seem so desperate to cope to impossible levels is because they're as delusional and stupid as mori is

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754711
Because Suisei is what the 5% wishes Mori would be. They know she's using the time she could be using reading supas for something better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755077
Maybe in some other stream, not in that one.

[Anonymous No.]

>there are people who believe brappa the rapper ever cared about hololive
I wonder what it's like to be so self-deluded

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754711
hoshiyomis are to busy doing cool shit like winning national sports events and building rockets

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755079
Is there someone in Hololive deadbraps won't shittalk in an attempt to make Mori look better?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
The gift that keeps on giving. Deadbraps will never live this 5% shit down

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
I KNEEL, TEAMMATES

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755176
You don't need to like or watch Hololive to join Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753672
The only ones crying all this time were fucks like you, yet you still choose to continue and attempt to brand it as a conversation without providing any logic or reason as to why, and for which you've been ridiculed by the rest of the board here and back in /jp/. You keep citing your beloved plebbit so much, you clearly know it better than me from all this referring others to go there, so get back there yourself and leave us the fuck alone already before you inevitably move to the next spergout only to incredibly unsurprisingly be left empty-handed time and time again. Even unironic zhangs would get bored at frothing at Coco at this point, how many more times does it need to (not) happen for you niggers to understand that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753651
Ame is very high in terms to how much she cares. The average value is likely around 8 mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755176
>brappa the rapper
lol

[Anonymous No.]

At least 5% is higher than 0...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755079
A couple devoted fans do not give Suisei the most successful songs and utawakus bar Calli, she wins over her viewerbase with genuine dedication, effort, skill. As the other anon said, Suisei is what the 5%beats wishes Mori could be.

Suisei is an actual hard-working musician and lyricist who can stream and collab in an entertaining way. Calli rode Cover's unlimited HoloEN budget to succeess and barely tries anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755441
>logic
you guys believe in cutting your dicks off and men can be women. I'm not taking logic lecture from you retards, kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755251
well maybe we do could start with not an being obssassed with a fucking to compony and prioritize the artists and creator????!!!
Mori loved by more than the kneelers all the way, because she know how to treat the game, and she hate you shit to giving to her tryna tell her what she do or not, fucking bitch

[Anonymous No.]

Meanwhile Baqua was super thankful for everybody's support when she streamed today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755588
5%...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755588
5%

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755588
5%, anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754689
Damn I'm glad I don't live in America then, 40h/week is still too much to balance life well, 25~30 is ideal, I'm glad my job let me do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755588
If she knew how to treat the game she wouldn't be an unprepared wet blanket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755592
Imagine Aqua coming back from suicide watch and saying "you know guys all this vtuber stuff is only 5% of my life"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755588
ESL 5%-chama...

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you fart sniffers now shitting on the girl who loves your oshi and desperately wants to collab with her? What the actual fuck is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756006
Because she doesn't deserve her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
Wait a fucking minute
You're using this clip to imply she doesn't care.
But that clip has actually been used on a video that went viral a few weeks ago on japan, detailling all the months where Coco couldn't collab with EN, and it's used to show how Mori wanted to collab with Coco but she wasn't even sure she was allowed to say her name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baifqPeUHC4

I don't get it, the same clip is being used for the exact opposite argument in japan.
So who is wrong? a group of dedicated schizos on a mongolian basket-weaving imageboard or japs who have been watching hololive since before you faggots even knew what a vtuber was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755524
These anime women will never care about your schizoid hallucinations just like trannies will never be women, the fuck are you on about? Good job on outing yourself as a projecting redditor you've been all along you fucking retard, kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756006
5%beats know they have no excuse for M*ri not collabing with Suisei (she has so many manlets to collab with first, you see). So instead they try to shit on Suisei to cope, acting like she's a leech and calling cometfags collab beggars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756054
Which Rrat is stronger? Only time will tell but I think we've made a pretty good case

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753515
>oldfag who is okay with male collabs
Oh, are you that type? Well then let me ask you a question.
How's it feel that sankisei turned Hololive into a cabaret, by the way?
Does it hurt, faggot? Does it sting knowing that they influenced behaviours of multiple other gens into pandering to idolfaggotry and GFE? All those niji collabs; gone. All those potential interactions with IRL male stars and VAs; gone. Indies like Mea and even as many collabs with previous common collab partners like Tamaki? Gone. What's here? Growing schizophrenic adoration for their viewers from an ever increasing roster of holos. Deeper codependency. The conversion of a significant portion of EOPs to idolfaggotry to the point where outright GFE stuff can rarely, rarely get upvoted on Reddit and Youtube, of all places.
How's it feel, oldfag, to see your shitty lack of investment fail? Because I was there too. And I yelled and ranted unironically about male collabs even when they were common. I am of the brave few who set the stage for GFE acceptance. I was there, getting irritated about Aqua doing that group collab with Kuzuha. I was there, pissed about every Oozaru family stream. You all thought I was memeing. But I wasn't meming. And then sankisei came. Rushia came. Pekora came. Marine came. And I watched them fall in love with their audience, and then I came.
And for me? Right here, right now? It feels pretty good. Pretty fucking good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756142
I deleted the post because i opened the wrong Mori anti thread, but i'm pretty sure i saw another thread with the first clip i was talking about in the OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756149
Unfathomably based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756006
In just 24 hours, Brapbeats have been mindbroken

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755588
shut the fuck up, 5% deadbeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756149
I kneel...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756149
dangerously based. hololive WILL be gatekept and there's nothing these cucks can do but seethe with buzzwords

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
She claims to be all for the indies when they'd fucking kill to have what she has and meanwhile she treat it like an annoyance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752437
>Wastes a ton of her time on some dumb corproate job shit and panders to the mentally ill who watch to pretend to have a human being interested in them at all, much less a GF
Absolute state of Lam the Sham

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756149
It is good for you that you are comfortable with being insane and retarded, but I am afraid that you have to realize that like 90% of what you just mentioned as sacrilegeous happenings were only bad in your sick head, so don't drag it around the internet projecting on others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754697
Wait a second, I'm in Florida and I'm debuting soon
I'm gonna show all of you what "Florida Man" really means

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756613
As a fellow Floridian I just want you to know you're pathetic for pandering to a normalfag meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
I'll take impostor syndrome over this ungrateful hag any day.
Kind of feel bad for 5%'ers, they picked the wrong oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754751
By adding to the niche covered within their company, they reduce their own niche. There is no other popular "idol vtuber" company out there, and Hololive blew up initially because of that label. (Yes, even 2nd gen, don't tell me for one second Aqua wasn't an idolfag)
Every time they spread out, they cleave away at the niche they have a lock on, opening the door for somebody to swoop in and take a significantly lucrative and active fanbase away.
"idol vtuber company" is not the same as "vtuber company with idol vtubers", and anybody who is actually honest with themselves can acknowledge this. People rely on the theme of the company(if it has one) to uphold standards, making potential fans feel safer in investing themselves since they're at much lower risk of an about-face turn from their favorite content creator(s) away from the content they enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4751038
Onigiriya here, no horse in this race, but just want to point out that a cut of 30% is honestly a good cut for an entertainer. Your average music producer gets 12% off of total revenue, most of which comes from live ticket sales. For streaming, it's even worse at 6%.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180819/00051140461/only-12-music-revenue-goes-to-actual-artists.shtml

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756613
DEMO DON'T

[Anonymous No.]

Slow success builds character, fast success builds ego. Regardless of how you feel about anyone in Holo EN, their reaction to this explosion in their success and wealth says everything about their character. On one hand you have things like Ame using her position to run a huge charity stream for animals or Kiara doing a shit ton of fan commissions and tons of interaction with her community. On the other you have Mori’s reaction where she seem’s to have already decided she’s too big for Hololive and has far better things to focus on, with very little in the way of recognition for the people around her who enabled this level of success to begin with. Actions will always speak louder than words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756703
Gura WILL collab with a male streamer and you WILL love it. Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756613
Florida Man would be a really good name for a male chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4755488
>most successful songs and utawakus bar Calli
For the prior, it's because very few holos release songs at all, and even less release original music with any sense of regularity. And none of those are big hitters.
For the latter, that hasn't been true for a while. Her utawaku get trounced by several other holos, both in average live viewers, peak viewers, superchat, and VOD views.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll gladly live inside your head but who the fuck pays my rent?

[Anonymous No.]

Did she write Off With Their Heads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749348
>vshojo tourists will proudly defend being the lowest priority of their osh... fav
YASS QUEEN SLAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756870
no she wont

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756996
the 5%

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756933
>very few holos release songs at all
This is complete bullshit. For fuck's sake, Noel released a cover with Flare a couple days ago and she can't even sing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756427
>hololive WILL be gatekept
Doesn't seem like it. Guess you'll have to adjust or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4757042
Yes she will. Senzawa fucks all the time dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756864
And what's Gura doing? Crying because nobody wants to be the friend of the top number girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4757042
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>4757050

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756613
anon, I'm scared
>>4756846
holy fuck, is this why artists behave like complete retards at times? i didn't know they have it this bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756864
Not a 5%er, but if we are going by their roommates Mori has been working hard for a long while. She clearly doesn't give a shit about hololive, but for a different reason.
I don't think she thinks she's too good for hololive: she never cared about it even when she debuted, she has laser-focus on her trash rap and never wanted to do anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4757087
>cuckbraps SEETHING
shouldnt you be somewhere to fill up the 5% quota deadbrap?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4757050
Holobased

[Anonymous No.]

>>4756864
Mori shilled Ame's stream like crazy and spent a fairly large portion of her drawing stream discussing her own plans for a charity stream.

Of course you don't actually watch the streams and just shitpost on here. Go back to discord.

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>>4749414
same

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>>4757042
lol with all those streams she had with guys back then? You would be killing yourself if you saw some of them chumkek

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>>4756564
Oh boy, it'd sure be a shame if I akasupa'd Pekora, Rushia, Lamy, and a few others again, telling them how much they mean to me in that cliche way that nonetheless makes them laugh. Do you know that one time, Rushia was in an obvious bad mood, and I sent a series of akasupa to her with cheesy lovey dovey shit, and felt her mood spike immediately? Do you know what she did afterwards, almost immediately. Stream some really, really intense stuff on her roommate, solidifying that parasocial codependency. And I could literally pinpoint the moment she switched from her mood of wanting distance, to the mood of wanting closure, as she read my intentionally heart-warming SC. And this is only one of my many, many efforts. Let's not get into how many YT brand accounts and how many twitter accounts I have, how many comments I've posted and likes/dislikes I've made and how many very carefully worded tweets I've made after tracking down which tags and search terms the girls were using for their egosearching by evaluating the pictures they had liked and in what order, to maximize visibility of comments made to reinforce feelings of genuine love towards them but also feelings of exclusivity, to make them feel guilt for thoughts of not pandering to that.
I am projecting it on others, anon. I'm projecting it on the holos themselves. And it worked. Over and over, the little seeds I planted for almost 2 years.

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>>4756149
i kneel

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>>4757145
The music and entertainment industry is all fucked up. Read the article and the reports linked there, it's one hell of a rabbit hole. Making music is definitely not a good way to make money unless you end up in the top 0.000001% or are in a tiny niche with little to no competition.

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>>4757159
Of course, all 5 of them worked hard for a long time, some with more success than others. But regardless of that, having such a jarring jump in the popularity and recognition of your work is going to affect how you view yourself, and how you react is very telling of what kind of person you are.

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>>4757127
Gura and Ina have probably changed the least from their first day

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>>4757277
Let me know when that charity stream actually happens, I'll take back what I said.

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>>4757061
>it's because very few holos release songs at all, and even less release original music with any sense of regularity.
Read the full sentence my guy
Covers aren't exactly much of a big deal, original singles are moreso the big deal

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>>4757458
What is the appeal of posting here if you don't watch any streams

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Ratiobros?

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>>4757277
Again, actions not words. I’d be more than happy to see her do a charity stream, I would love to donate. But considering how she never had any mention of doing one before Ame decided she was going to do one brings into question the motives of it, if she does one at all.

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>>4757540
>But considering how she never had any mention of doing one before Ame decided she was going to do one brings into question the motives of it
What? Amelia was the first to propose it and try to get something organized and through management but Mori mentioned multiple times she really wanted her viewers to tune in and donate if possible because if Ame's stream went well it opened things up to the rest of them to follow.

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>>4756149

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>>4756149
>>4757374
What a GOD.

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>>4754553
>>4754333
>>4754532
>>4754054
I think that you're an idiot.

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>>4756149
I came inside Rushia, Pekora and Marine. Cop

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>>4758210
based

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>>4758210
Really? I only did to the Pekora daki, but soon the Rushia daki will be here too, I already picked out an onahole to sow into it that I think feels like Rushia would

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>>4757643
So what was stopping Mori from doing a charity stream if it was actually her idea all along. If you never had the idea of doing a charity stream but then somebody else did and you copied them that's one thing, but saying you want to do a charity stream while talking mad shit about how much you want to give back but then waiting until somebody else does one first so they can "prove the concept" is peak clout chaser behaviour

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>>4758308
ogey

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>>4750819
Shazam poster... My knees...

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>>4757042
How will kekbeats ever recover

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>>4753864
best post in the thread by far

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>>4758348
As expected of a 5% who worships their "I hate fake people" fake idol

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>>4758436
Why didn't anyone else in Hololive ever try to do a charity stream? I guess they only care about their paychecks and having the option for charitable donations cuts into their own bottom line.

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>>4758479
Japan would roast them and the company, charities are shit on over there (not like they're wrong since most are a scam)

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>>4758479
Read what I said. Not having the idea to do a charity stream is fine. Having the idea to do one but then saying you want to wait for somebody else to prove the concept is bad.

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>>4758583
How is it bad? You need to workshop this bait man, trying to get at her for trying to get money towards charities is just a little too much of a stretch.

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>>4757267
HAHAHA HAHAHAHA

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Isn’t it ironic the people who call out “fake” people the most often end up being fake themselves

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>>4758633
>> I want to do a charity because I love animals. No ones ever done one before so I’m not sure how it will go but I am going to do it anyways because I really care about the cause
>> Wow this person did a charity and it went super well and they got a ton of publicity and attention from it, I should do it too!

Sure, they both are getting money to good causes, but one is doing it because they are a good person, the other is doing it because they are a clout chaser. No one is arguing running the charity event itself is bad.

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>>4758704
Do these posts sound better in your head

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>>4758633
It's not bait. I legit think it's clout chasing behaviour. No different from all those people putting #debuttba on their vtweeter account and then spouting political garbage all day

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>>4758801
Ok so your entire thesis relies on assuming the absolute worst in her and even then it boils down to thinking she's still doing the right thing, just for the "wrong" reasons.

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>>4755079
Miko and Roboco arent indies retard holy shit
Can you at least pretend to know what you're talking about? Probably not considering viewing 5% of hololive streams is the best you could do

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>>4758914
You don't understand. She's not going to do a charity stream. She's going to talk about how much she wants to do one for the attention and then put it off like the members karaoke and say "I don't actually care" when people ask her about it

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>>4756543
So it's true. The 5% will attack any Holo or any vtuber for that matter trying to whiteknight Mori. I could compare Mori to fucking Sora and you cucks would still shit on Sora for being tryhard corpo slave or something.

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>>4759018
ogey

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>>4759051
Keep coping 5%. Yourw already giving her clout for "doing the right thing" even though she hasn't done the charity yet. You literally proved my rrat

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>>4759045
whiteknighting deadbeats are the worst part of this whole yab. I am disgusted to share one board with those degenerates.

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5% is not enough time to do a charity stream. That takes some effort to setup.

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>>4749348
OP feels like a hero hei title and thumbnail.

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>>4749348
Do you have autism?

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>>4749348
5% lmao

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>>4749740
ok vshojo tourist

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>>4753651
75%... I KNEEL

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>>4758926
Anon, what do you think Gen 0 refers to

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>>4760239
It refers to them debuting as a hololive signed vtuber by themselves, and not with a unified generation group you fucking newchama

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>>4757458
This is bait

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>>4760239
Again, you can't even spend 5% of your time looking it up
Do you think Sora was an indie too? Or do you not even know what indie means?

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>>4756149
I'm glad there are a lot of schizos like you. o7

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>>4760575
Based NON-incel

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>>4757374
Sure you did. Time for meds grandpa.

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>>4756149
my dude how can you still be this edgy its 2021

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>>4762107
it's necessary evil

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Just imagine supporting someone who doesn't give their all for their viewers and their genmates. Imagine liking someone who won't even try to open up and talk while their collab partners are forced to carry most of the weight through the stream. Imagine watching someone daily who doesn't want to entertain their audience and being ok with the shitty experience they produce. Not only are you ok with doing all of that, you then go forward to give them money for doing all of that. Don't hit me with the "You've gotta see her in her T3 streams! It's totally different!" shit.

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>>4756149
Now this is a based schizo