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>Goes from saying that she won't collab with males one on one to not make her fans jealous to straight up shipping herself with them nowadays
Did Luxiem ruin her or was she hiding her nature and it was revealed by Luxiem?

>> No.47464907

>>47464835
A nijiwhore would never promise that sort of thing

>> No.47464956

>>47464835
Anon...people lie all the time

>> No.47465041

>>47464835
Luxiem and Noctyx had nothing to do with it, she's a flip women, they stick to men's dicks like white on rice.

>> No.47465054

>>47464835
Soooo the proof of her ever promising that is where exactly?

>> No.47465111

>>47464907
A lot of them where completely different before Luxiem became popular.

>> No.47465132

>>47465054
Do your reps. She literally said it in her first 3 months.
>"Ah so no proof then."
You will not be spoonfed.

>> No.47465231

>>47465132
the burden of proof always lays on the one who makes a claim, so unless you deliver, you're full of shit.

>> No.47465246

>>47464835
There's some kind of evolutionary process of a chuuba that applies to quite a few of them. It's not guaranteed but it's definitely a pattern of fallacies/bad judgment/misguidance that looks something like this:

>1.) may start off with idealistic goals, very sensitive to fan input and trying to make them happy

>2.) thinks they're successful-enough to start to do whatever they want and drink confirmation bias kool-aid all day cherrypicking what fans they still feel like listening to

>3.) eventually encounter setbacks and get resented, now totally unwilling to listen to fans and if anything gets butthurt about people reminding her of how she used to be

>4.) lashes out openly and impotently, stops distinguishing fans from antis, takes an us vs them approach only valuing input from other vtubers (mori lean arc for example, and millie's probably is the secret GC stream).

>> No.47465296

>>47464835
not cute or charismatic enough for people to gosling over so she resorted to this when she became a 3 view

>> No.47465321

>>47465132
Deliver the proof then.
I literally can't see a whore like Millie saying this.

>> No.47465390

>>47465132
You could say what to look up in the archive and I'd go do my reps then.
But I know you're a lying nigger and you wouldn't even know yourself what to look for, because you / OP made it the fuck up.

>> No.47465414

It's amazing how niji vtubing culture is so different to what it was like pre males that people cannot even fathom a niji doing gfe.

>> No.47465698

>>47465321
You probably got into her late. It was around December when all the girls of the net (including large indie vtubers) were jumping onto lux's dick. She wanted to "reassure" people she'll never do that.

>> No.47465761

>>47465414
I watched Millie a ton during her first few months and I have no clue when she said anything about intergender collabs and she definitely was not trying to be GFE. If anything all she said was that she was too shy to talk to the guys at first until Vox tried to be friends with her.

>> No.47465869
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47465869

>>47465761
She definitely said it but it doesn't really matter since she was just lying.

>> No.47465911

>>47465414
which nijien girl ever did gfe?

>> No.47465963

>>47465414
Niji management and talents alike mostly didn't actually-understand how nijiJP is and took it upon themselves to try to be the anti-Hololive which means starting to try to go out of their way to do anything they can think of to drive away Holo fans. Which was a real smart idea, just fucking brilliant nobel prize tier shit to do, when Lazusydia was built up entirely on trying to be a Holo-like. The later comers are trying to erase all this and pretend that wasn't the case but it very fucking distinctly was.

They all thought they didn't need to do that anymore thinking Luxiem was gonna make HoloEN irrelevant soon and vindicate all their SJW notions that anime/idols etc are all evil and they didn't have to pretend to care about Japan anymore etc. But nah, that flip-over point never came, and even though it was obvious to me that Luxiem growth actually never even come from the Western vtuber fandom they just clung to the new setup anyway.

I mean it's not like you can undo entrenching yourself leeching the dudes once you start, it's an image/perception thing, once it's tainted it won't really recover for years which in vtuber time is "basically forever." It takes effort and care to maintain a certain image of heavy but convincing/amusing kayfabe/purity etc. This, this fact, really really annoys all the girls who already fucked up irreversibly and wanna drag down the others with them, it's a crab bucket thing.

>> No.47466020

>>47465869
>still can't provide a keyword in the archive or even direct proof

>> No.47466025

>>47465132
>no proof

>> No.47466031

>>47465911
Lazulights somewhat did at first generally. People were gushing on and on about Pomu's Akiba tour stream as being like, better than Hololive tier GFE. Rosemi kind of was too initially.

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>>47464835
Pretty sure she didn't go this hard on the shipping while she was indie, guess she got hungry for numbers and relevancy.
That or she was victim to Enna and the rest of nijiEN corrupting her

>> No.47466111

What drives people to write multiple paragraph replies full of obvious threadwatcher observations and regurgitated bait and rrats?

>> No.47466192

>>47466111
What drives people to think "writing a thorough answer" is a bad quality? Being 12? Having your brainstem rotted out by twitter?

>> No.47466300

>>47466031
doing occasional streams that can be interpreted as gachikoi bait by schizos is not gfe, rosemi never did anything resembling gfe in her career. You faggots always just projected it onto them because the only male vtubers that spoke english were oliver and reza

>> No.47466450

>>47466300
The asnwer being "the girls were low tier thots all along and you just couldn't tell because there weren't dicks all around them yet" doesn't make their earlier work any different. It does make them all lesser people however just unworthy of your attention when there are chuubas out there who -aren't- like that. Like was just said it's a massive crab bucket thing for the ethots to try to drag everyone else down to their level.

>> No.47466557

>>47466031
>Rosemi kind of was too initially.
No she wasn't, lol. Rosemi's been incredibly cagey about her personal life and emotions specifically to avoid people thinking of her as GFE.

>> No.47466576

>>47465246
money and influence can really change a person

>> No.47466640

>>47466450
I'm saying your interpretation of their 'earlier work' is cherrypicked and not representative of reality

>> No.47466737
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47466737

Millie objectively was gfe at her beginning.
There is no way that can be denied.

>> No.47466807

>>47466640
their earlier work didn't involve them orbiting dudes half the time and/or making half the streams big collabs trying to leech incompatible audiences. protip random chinese office ladies do not give a single tiny ant-dicked fuck about someone like millie on her own, only when she's in the presence of one of their bishie boytoys. that's why she's a 3-view, same with finana and reimu. reimu had the fucking royal leech express getting in so close with vox and it didn't help her one bit. actually, what happened is vox tripped himself up over her instead with his cringe "I'm not actually a demon" rant.

>> No.47466816

>>47465698
which stream?
i believe you but i want to see it

>> No.47466968

>>47465390
Think what you will but your denial doesn't change reality.

>> No.47466970

>>47466807
are you seriously pretending millie or reimu were ever more than 3-views or were on an upward trajectory? As for finana she killed her fanbase with the trap shit

>> No.47467032

>>47466807
>protip random chinese office ladies do not give
Meanwhile
>Annie has donated to multiple girls outside of collabs

>> No.47467061

>>47467032
you should have known it was a threadreader fanfic thread when they started saying rosemi was gfe

>> No.47467120

>>47467061
gfe isn't something a chuuba just decides to say they do or not sometimes, it's something the viewers see in them. woman moment for sure.

>> No.47467295

>>47467120
>gfe is entirely my cognitive illness
gotcha

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47467298

>>47467120
>gfe exists by whatever mercurial definition you've settled upon today in order to be right
woman moment for sure.

>> No.47467569

>>47464835
Does Niji-EN has a non-whore at this point?

>> No.47467599

>>47467298
>>47467295
your whining doesn't change the facts. you do not have to actually-try to be GFE to be considered one, it is an attribute viewers award to you, it's earned. ethots knowing they will never, ever, not once ever, be regarded as that ideal perfect mate type attribute only makes them fucking seethe until they shit blood.

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47467949

Is it this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB9NhzI1T48
At 1:01:56.
She says
>Don't worry guys, i know you guys love me too much, so it's a girl ok, it's girls, niji-senpai girls
So she acknowleges that she doesn't want to make her fans jealous and reassures them that she's going to be collabing with girls but she never made any definitive statements.

>> No.47468126

>>47467949
People likely read between the lines as they say, otherwise she would have said outright if she planned on collabing with them. This is Milica we're talking about.

>> No.47468307

>>47467949
Holy crap why is it so hard for you retards to just post this for proof?

>> No.47468555
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47468555

Wow we were really innocent back then...

>> No.47468583

>>47468307
>Spoonfeeding catalog fags

>> No.47468608

Is there any Niji-EN girl that can be trusted?

>> No.47468743
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47468743

I loved Millie and she broke my heart

>> No.47469268

>>47468608
You can trust Nina to be a whore

>> No.47469368

>>47469268
funnily enough nina is the one staying away from the males and pushing female collabs the most these days, not a high bar but still

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47469474

>>47469268
Outdated shitpost by at least 6 months

>> No.47469847

>>47469474
she can't wash away her sins

>> No.47469855

>>47469474
so does Nina panders to fans the most now?, or she constantly collabs with the fujobait creatures?

>> No.47469899

>>47468608
Depends, trust for what exactly?

>> No.47469977

>>47469899
trust she will make content focused more for fans and not constantly collab with the cringe males, +not shitting on fans for being ´´parasocial´´.

>> No.47470131

>>47469268
That's not exclusive to her. It's the prereq for being a nijigirl

>> No.47470410

>>47464835
she literally has talked about going on dates with guys IRL from the beginning
millie has never been unicorn friendly, stop with your schizo bullshit

>> No.47470478

>>47470410
>>47467949
You were spoonfed already faggot, fuck off

>> No.47470620

>>47466970
>As for finana she killed her fanbase with the trap shit
No. It was gacha spam.

>> No.47471009

>>47467949
>>47468555
Nijikeks tried to bury their pasts

>> No.47471152

>>47465296
This is true for almost all of girl chuubas that started as GFE or at least being close to GFE. Once they see that the whole gimmick is not worth it compared to the stress that it brings (having to balance out the attention between the paypigs/attention whores) and the income is barely different from their non gfe coleagues, they just drop it and do whatever.

>> No.47471278

>>47466970
>As for finana she killed her fanbase with the trap shit
Based mouth-breathing catalognigger

>> No.47471563

>>47471009
I'm not burying anything i was chased out of /NijiEN/ by the hordes of women that run the place now.

>> No.47471586

>>47466970
Reimu never stood a chance, but Millie was inclining. Before Enna took off, Millie had the best viewership in their wave.

>> No.47472914

>>47471586
numbers aside since i don't give a fuck, i still mourn the day i learned Reimu was vox sidekick, she had so much affectionate chuuba potential...

>> No.47474762

>>47472914
condolences

>> No.47476296

>>47468608
My wife Pomu

>> No.47476374

>>47476296
>/b/omu
She's the LEAST trustworthy.

>> No.47477792

>>47470620
I thought it was the parasocial fucks thing

>> No.47479396

>>47477792
It was the Valoguard situation, as this is what pushed away most of her pay pigs and biggest supporters. Parasocial fucks and trap situation just pushed away people who occasionally watched her.

>> No.47480125

>>47467949
Bump. Thread is about Millie BTW not sure what happened to OP pics

>> No.47480228

>>47465132
Ah so no proof then

>> No.47480809

>>47468608
Only watch NijiEN women for casual entertainment. Actually scrap that, only watch NijiEN women, men, and whatever in between for casual entertainment. Member them at most but for the love of god do not get too attached to them when they start talking about their personal life or try to view chat as their friends/affectionate lovers.
It feels like there's too many situations where fans try the opposite thinking it wont happen to them and just get burnt badly.

>> No.47480826

>>47480125
Janny probably fucked up trying to delete the thread after proof was posted.

>> No.47480950

>>47480228
this much coping isn't healthy

>> No.47481176

>>47464835
>file deleted
do jannies really?
it was millie btw

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