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>no Spanish branch
>no French branch
>no German branch (Kiara doesn’t count)
>no EU branch covering several different European languages
>no Portuguese branch
>no Korean branch
>no attempt to try a China branch, again
>no Arabic branch
There’s a lot of markets Cover has yet to try their hands at

>> No.47451626

>>47451562
TW branch soon

>> No.47451653

No need

>> No.47451706

their budget isn't unlimited

>> No.47451723

>>47451562
>Spanish
Not worth the drama.
>French
Nobody wants frogtubers, even the people saying they want frogtubers.
>German
Not profitable enough.
>Portuguese
lmao
>Korean
They "tried".
>going back to those fuckers
lmao
>Arabic
You trying to get people killed?

>> No.47451776

>>47451562
HoloEU should just be euros speaking english that stream in euro primetime, it is what everyone means when they say HoloEU

>> No.47451874

>>47451562
>no French branch
The French are poor and all they ever do is eat cheese and riot.

>> No.47452739

>>47451874
Sounds pretty based to me

>> No.47452782

>>47451723
>>Arabic
>You trying to get people killed?
Explain.

>> No.47452861

>>47451776
They can speak English when they collaborate with each other and speak their own languages (along with English) in solo streams

>> No.47452920

The french hate vtubers

>> No.47453023

I feel southern America is wildly available for hololive as the types of cutie and characterization there is self evidential. There's literally no reason to not sweep up a huge cutie gfe group from there.

>> No.47453083

>>47453023
Hololive saw that WACTOR never took off so they wont do it, same as to why there will never be a HoloEU since the chicken has low numbers and no euros buy merch

>> No.47453108

>>47453023
You mean south america, the continent, or redneck america (texas and the like)?
Cause if the former, that's definitely a massively untapped market. Sure, less profits directly, but mostly uncontested territory (and bleedover from other hispanic chuuba viewers).
I doubt it'll happen cause Hololive has a massive japanese bias (obviously) and barely enforces/manages the gaijin branches.

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47453320

>>47451562
>>no French branch

>> No.47453727

>>47453023
>be vtuber in south america
>in hololive, get a lot of money
>capped

>> No.47453980

>>47452861
even English always like kiara is okay.
would be interesting enough to know they are from different EU countries and have them talk about cultural differences and stuff

>> No.47454031

>>47453980
But then there would be no point to an EU branch. Might as well just make them EN3.

>> No.47454129

>>47454031
the point is the cultural flavor. speaking a language hardly anyone understands is just limiting your own market.
what's the point of ID if they rarely speak indonesian?

>> No.47454233

>>47454129
Most solo ID streams have them speaking it most of the time (save for Reine, Ollie, Kaela and Zeta) and most collab streams have them speak the language 90% of the time

>> No.47454558

>>47453320
Ha, if streaming in general gets popular enough we may live to see the Canadian government sponsor a "French" vtuber

>> No.47454709

>>47452782
He is racist

>> No.47454803

>>47451562
EU is a different timezone from where most of their talents and managers are, and speak various different languages.
Making HoloEU will b a lot more difficult to manage than any of their other branches.

>> No.47455595

>>47454803
>and speak various different languages.
they speak english
>EU is a different timezone
Just hire professionals that are awake when people go to their jobs in EU and then all meetings would be in the afternoon in japan

>> No.47456063

they already have japan and indonesia locked down. there's no reason to expand again.

>> No.47456691
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47456691

>>47455595
You overestimate the English skills of ESL.
Dutch and Swedes may speak quite some decent English, but it's not their native language and misunderstandings and miscommunication will happen quite easily. Also funny accents.
And then you have larger language regions where every movie is gets dubbed in their native language. People over there speak some pretty bad English if they speak the language at all. Some may refuse to learn a second language and will only rely on their native language for their entire life.
This may not be that much of a problem as a streamer when talking to chat, but what about business meetings?

>> No.47456733

>>47456691
>Some may refuse to learn a second language and will only rely on their native language for their entire life.
But enough about the US and lets talk about the EU

>> No.47456753

>>47456733
retard

>> No.47456806

>>47456733
You have no idea how annoying it is when you enter Brussels. Capital of the EU, in a country with 3 official languages, the surrounding area is in the Dutch speaking region, yet those assholes outright refuse to speak anything other than French. Shouldn't they have learned Dutch in primary school already? Even the scammer on my phone can speak English and he lives in a third world country!

>> No.47456810

The Japanese are almost completely incapable of operating businesses in the EU for some reason. I'm not entirely sure why, but this has always been true, even back in the post-war meteoric rise era

>> No.47456826

>>47454709
And that's a good thing.

>> No.47456870

>>47456691
The distribution on this seems about right, but in reality anything above a 4 on this chart is good enough to live in an English speaking country. English speakers are too used to accommodating people who are bad at the language in their everyday lives

>> No.47456901

>>47451562
>no Spanish branch
poor cunts
>>no French branch
who even speak this but negro nations that are poor as dirt
>>no German branch (Kiara doesn’t count)
Can't even not freeze thanks to russia
>>no EU branch covering several different European languages
most euros under 30 speak english
>>no Portuguese branch
huehuehuehuehuehue
>>no Korean branch
wanting more k-pop stans in vtubing lol
>>no attempt to try a China branch, again
china is gay
>>no Arabic branch
haram

>> No.47456930

>>47456901
>>>no Korean branch
>wanting more k-pop stans in vtubing lol
Ah I completely forgot about the k-pop fandom that infected NijiEN, jesus christ that is a continuous shit show

>> No.47456950

>>47451562
>Arabic
Would Middle Eastern countries even allow their women to become VTubers? Yeah I know Indonesia is an Islamic country, but I don’t see how a Saudi woman could ever become a VTuber due to hardline sharia law. Same with Qatar. UAE seems the most suitable. Forget about Syria or Afghanistan.

>> No.47456973

>>47456901
>who even speak this but negro nations that are poor as dirt
Uhh France? Quebec?

>> No.47457004

>>47456950
If indonesia is an islamic country, then Bali will be dumped

>> No.47457011

>>47456973
Negro nation and Sweden has more inhabitants than Quebec and a Swedish speaking vtuber is a fucking insane idea

>> No.47457029

>>47457011
Ike Eveland is Swedish

>> No.47457051

>>47456870
What really pisses me off is when someone who speaks the language poorly gets an inflated ego about their English skills. Even though they are only getting compliments because people are way too nice to ESLs and 4chan is basically the only place that it's normal to insult them. If I can tell you're ESL online, you are not fluent enough. IRL is a bit different because I can hear their accent, but if it is super thick and they make the common mistakes I see all the time, they are not fluent enough.

>> No.47457066

>>47457029
Only speaks swedish on april fools and when playing games that features swedish, also he lives like full time in canada

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47457091

>>47451723
Jump ship

>> No.47457137

>>47457051
It's not really about being too nice, it's just a fact that everyone on the planet knows some English, and every english primary country has large and extremely diverse immigrant populations. Every English primary speaker has to spend huge portions of their life getting used to all these shitty accents and bad grammar. The truth is that *you don't need to be good at English to have natives understand you*. This is not true of most other languages, where even a slight bad accent will have people not understand anything you're saying because they're used to only good native speakers.

>> No.47457151

>>47451562
>>no attempt to try a China branch, again
That attempt would go up in flames. China must hate Holo now

>> No.47457154

>>47456870
But can they speak business level English? They need to be able to hold conversation with management to talk about how their numbers are tanking or the best way to handle a situation after a scandal happened.

>> No.47457187

>>47457151
Holo is hiring people with traditional chinese skills, they are going into Taiwan (and China by extension)

>> No.47457203

>>47457154
I work with a bunch of Chinese people who suck ass at English. Genuinely terrible. They can still muddle their way through SME and business conversations because the other party is perfectly able to accommodating. Japan is a very good example of the antithesis of this - if you've ever seen a foreigner with bad Japanese attempt to talk to a native speaker you will rapidly discover that they are so unused to hearing it they cannot comprehend anything.

>> No.47457316

>>47451562
They are virtually all the same EN shit. Which is a globohomo branch. Indos can somehow escape globohomo because of their weeb market.

>> No.47457761

>>47451562
They should make a Hong Kong & Taiwan branch.

>> No.47457866

>>47457761
Hong Kong is China now.

>> No.47457899

>>47451562
>Kiara doesn’t count
Gut so, sie spricht wie eine Ghettoschlampe

>> No.47457910

>>47457203
So working with people who have a poor grasp of a certain language shouldn't be that much of a problem as long as others like management and higher ups are able to take that into account?

>> No.47457960

>>47451562
EN3 should be holoEU. They all speak english and then they do one language stream per fortnight. Simple as.

>> No.47458009

>>47457960
They should all speak their own native language and have streamers from the Balkan to spice things up.
HoloBABEL

>> No.47458103

Holo Esperanto when? Or Holo Pig Latin? Or just straight up Latin? Or Wingdings?

>> No.47459626

>>47457154
Management can just have the talent get a B2/C1 business qualification.

>> No.47459995

>>47451562
Arab branch will have a genie girl.
Egyptian member will be an archeologist that's secretly a mummy (like in mummies alive).

>> No.47460160

>>47451562
If you want made in china mass produced vtuber branches, just go back to nijichinks.

>> No.47461484

>>47457187
They're hiring translators to put subs on videos, cover will never make a Taiwan branch

>> No.47461545

>>47461484
My poor Yogiri...

>> No.47461716

>>47451562
The reality is that most of those are yab-magnets of the highest order. The Chinese and Arabs are thin-skinned dramawhores. Koreans is just asking for shit to go down when korea throws a hissy fit about some colonial era shit again and the EU branches simply don't have a big enough audience. Spanish is the only language that would be big enough in places that actually watch VTubers but they're too poor to matter.

>> No.47463216

>>47451562
We don't need more branches.
We don't need more language coverage.
What we ACTUALLY need is timezone coverage.

>> No.47463898

>>47454031
Nobody wants to start a separate branch just for Europe, although Cover should, by all means, set up a foothold in Europe, even if that's just for Kiara and Dokomi. When people say "HoloEU" they just mean ENs in european timezones, because currently they have to pick between NA mornings and JP/ID evenings, so two rare zones. There's no good coverage of european post-work afternoon/evening or european morning.
We Yuros seriously wouldn't mind if all of them spoke English, it's taught at all schools after all, at this point I wouldn't even mind if they weren't actually European, I just want to have a chance to watch a full stream that doesn't happen during my company time or sleep time.

>> No.47464049

>>47451562
HoloEU is just english speaking chuubas. I say that as a Yuro myself. The real issue to solve is the shipping.
>no attempt to try a China branch, again
>no Arabic branch
And I thank Allah, God and Yhwe(?) every single day for this

>> No.47464068

>>47451562
EU and LATAM markets aren't worth the try. Europe doesn't watch vtuber content and Latin America is full of poorfags that will never give donations.

>> No.47465298

>>47464068
Europe DO NOT FUCKING HAVE VTUBER CONTENT

In eu prime time (7pm tp 1am) you have like ZERO holo streams, at most you get late watame/luna/kaela and kiara 2 times a week

The biggest legit EU vtuber is... the slut german orca and the likes of panko LOL (i love panko)

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47466793

I don't know a single european who wants a european branch/euro exclusive vtubers. We all know english (minus the french cus theyre stuck up retards) enough to watch holoEN. It's retarded to think there's a market for EU branch when it'd just overlap with the current EN branch. Maybe there's some profit in SA, idk if those monkey brain eaters watch EN but they sure as fuck can't afford to buy merch/support anyone financially.

>> No.47467300

>>47465298
We also have Anny (the girl making Neuro-samas new model) and uuuuuh
dyarikku on the afternoons streaming her workday so if you work from home you have something to watch
Yunii streams early in the morning for some reason and is italian like rikku so I guess she targets NA neets/degens
Yoclesh streams evenings for EU
Squchan for late afternoon to evenings
Yes I know that all of these are from the same group that is how dire EUtubing is

>> No.47469554

>>47451562
>no German branch (Kiara doesn’t count)
YOU VILL WATCH ZE TAKANASHI KIARA SUBCH.

>> No.47471494

>>47451562
Nobody's interested in catering to euro subhumans, just accept it. Next EN talents will be US or AUS time zones again, calling it now.

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