/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

there are 2 explanations for this shadowverse collab

she saw the response to her shit collabs with coco and gura and thought, "i really need to ramp up the enthusiasm for the next one," and the next one happened to be with this trash taste faggot

she is genuinely more excited to work with people outside of hololive like trash taste faggots and other indies if she could, and collabs with hololive will continue to be completely flaccid

explain, deadbraps

[Anonymous No.]

no she just wants the gigcock

[Anonymous No.]

>mori is sexually attracted to short asian men
>gigguk is a short asian man
It's really that simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
Its the former, but that's not fun to post about so people will insist its the latter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
She chose the worst possible moment possible to actually start trying.
She's a fucking idiot either way. She should have started acting like this during a holo collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
Former. However, if she sounds bored in holo collabs, and sounds very happy in the next non-vtuber collab afterwards, then she truly doesn't care about hololive and vtubers at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
OH FUCK OFF!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688727
looks like we've found our answer, close the thread

[Anonymous No.]

so do all deadbraps have an ntr fetish

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688746
oh yeah every single collab that she's done with her genmates before are completely devoid of any emotion, fun, and preparation but she just manages to fix most of her faults when she doesn't collab with her fellow coworkers? The one who she is supposed to be most comfortable with?

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>>4688727
isn't Gigguk not short though? he's not the shortest on Trash Taste at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689212
Correct.

[Anonymous No.]

It's the latter until proven otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688727
This.

Honestly, why are you retards upset that Mori is genuinely enthusiastic? That is part of the reason I like her so much, she's the least fake person in Hololive. Would you rather she hide her emotions like every other idol out there? Absolute braindead morons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
reposting because it applies here
>Makes Gura extremely uncomfortable during their first collab together
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Drags the entire generation into a series of extremely boring Overcooked 2 where she just mumbles to herself the whole time forcing collab partners to pick up the slack, despite being the one to start it
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Promises Kiara that they'd do weekly Minecraft streams where they could learn the game together, collabed MC exactly once one one month later and never again
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spends half an hour thanking superchats during her first Minecraft collab with Gura
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Doxxes herself and then obnoxiously fake screams into the mic the entirety of the Secret Neighbor collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Can't even be bothered to set up the game correctly for the first big Among Us collabs, is a massive anchor for the team and a wet blanket during meetings
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Was in a separate Discord channel thanking superchats during her second Among Us collab while her JP senpais all introduced themselves
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Played Lethal League with deadbeats while Ina literally stood there and watched, in what was supposed to be a Mori Ina collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Starts sulking when the punishment game comes up in Puyo Puyo Tetris, refuses to take part and brings the mood down
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Extremely and inexplicably rude to Kiara during the Takamori Q&A, nearly brought her to tears
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Doesn't know the first thing about Reine during their collab together, keeps calling her 'senpai' and actually thinks she's a Turkey character
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>According to Kiara, has overslept multiple collabs, forcing them to be delayed or rescheduled
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spoils the outfits for the Walfee outfit reveal collab, doesn't even try during the Jeopardy rounds and just types gibberish
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>was in a separate discord
>Completely uninterested during her Clubhouse 51 stream with Kiara, Kiara even has to pull out the fucking weather deck to try and get any sort of response from Mori
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spent 2 hours saying absolutely nothing but random autism grunts, as Kiara desperately tries to carry a conversation during their Shadowverse collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Can barely speak two words of Japanese during her Super Bunnyman stream with Rikka, forcing him to use English instead
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Completely shits the bed in the highly anticipated Coco Meme Review collab, exercising her usual "awkward sperg spamming stock phrases like naruhodo instead of holding an actual conversation" shtick to its fullest as Coco becomes more and more desperate to get ANY kind of reaction out of her and eventually asks 75k live viewers "is she always like this?"
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>made Gura wake up early on a day she had a stream later in the day
>replaced their game because it only has local play with a game that only has local play
>didn't install the game anywhere between the game being changed and the actual collab
>made a sleepy Gura wait 20 minutes only to have her experience about 0.5 to 2 second lag
>finally settle on Phasmophobia after all this struggling
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!

ULTIMATE version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689493
you're a retard if you think that's the reason people are shitting on her, deadbrap

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689493
Hiding her emotions and deadening herself during most streams is literally the problem.

Her entire persona is the fakest fucking shit to the point her rap "character" and her stream "characters" are two different personas who don't overlap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688727
/thread

[Anonymous No.]

what's this Gura collab everyone is talking about being such a disaster? you mean the recent phantasmophobia one?

[Anonymous No.]

It's not just about enthuisiams, card games like Shadowverse take a lot of reading and at this point there are thousands of cards to read through. It''s a simple matter of her knowing the game and her decks better now after more experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688727
Gigguk is almost 6 feet, well above the average asian male size and above average for all males

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689597
She's the least fake because she doesn't modulate her emotions, how do you not understand this? People who can fake enthusiasm are the ones who are fake. I can't believe I have to explain this. People like Coco and Gura are very good at pretending to be enthusiastic. Do you not realize this? I've never understood why idolfags are so obsessed with girls acting fake enthusiastic about the most mundane shit. Whereas others might pretend to care about nerdy shit, Mori actually likes some nerdy things and won't try to pretend she's interested in something when she's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688727
Gigguk is tall wdym?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689385
>>4689764
>>4689859
>t. gigguk

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
Mucho texto. (giv a like if you get the reference xD)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689801
No one wants to watch someone who looks bored, because it makes the viewer also bored. Entertainment 101.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
Well if you put it like that its hard to like mori even a little...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
this list will only grow longer

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689315
wrong. it's just when it's with kiara that she doesn't care. sure wonder why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690041
based cumbud

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
>she saw the response to her shit collabs with coco and gura and thought, "i really need to ramp up the enthusiasm for the next one," and the next one happened to be with this trash taste faggot

It's this one.
That's why she apologized for the first one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689801
In that case the most "genuine" thing she could do is not stream at all if she doesn't find it interesting. Her being visibly unenthusiastic doesn't mean she isn't being fake, it means that she does a terrible job at being fake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690343
Gee whiz, wonder why she's so unenthused when collabing with the woman who's aggressively flirting with her regardless of her own preference, and pressured to not straight up reject because their yuri-loving fanbase would quite literally explode.

I mean literally watch this collab and then watch the collab with Kiara. The difference is fucking staggering.

[Anonymous No.]

It's the latter, it's always been the latter. For fucks sake she unironically wanted to collab with Charlie before ANY jp, and before like half her genmates, so badly that when Cover told her no she threw a fucking temper tantrum.

She legit doesn't give a shit about hololive. She doesn't want to be a vtuber. It's a means to further her music career. Hence why she doxxes herself constantly to lead people to her devilcube identity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
Yeah this is a nice evidence.zip, but can you add a hook, bridge, and thesis? Then a short conclusion at the end and I'll grade your essay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
meds take them

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690513
explain gura and coco, dumbass deadbrap

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690513
Kiara didn't flirt with her in the Shadowverse collab but keep coping deadbrap. I'm sure you will defend her when she has the Charlie collab and gets call over his dick too.

[Anonymous No.]

>Mora Ina
Awkward trash
>Mori Ame
Awkward trash, practically doesn't exist
>Mori Gura
Occasionally decent, mostly trash
>Mori Kiara
Only good when it's an off-collab

It's everyone else's fault but Mori's, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
Dont be lazy and update that shit anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690576
Yeah, and literally the other collabs with women Calli has ever had, except the ones she had with Kokkoro Beats and Trash Taste, as well as the excitement she had to collab with Charlie.

If you're seeing a pattern, it's completely in your imagination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690659
mori isn't worth the effort, but I'll do better next time senpai

[Anonymous No.]

Where did the Mori-likes-asian-manlets-rrat come from?
I've heard about the manlet fetish, but did she ever specify Asians?

[Anonymous No.]

Is this the thread for retards and fags?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690731
Mori likes manlets. All asians are manlets. Therefore, Mori likes all asians.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690513
cuckbeats coping now

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690772
So just a rrat then, got it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690772
Damn. I'm an asian manlet.
Mori. PLEASE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688727
They're clearly fuck buddies at this point. Reminder that both of them live in Japan.

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>>4690735
no those threads usually have something like this in op

>A collection of conversations concerning choral curator and christless cake Calliope Mori and her cavalcade of compatriots

>A symposium for the soliloquy of the (currently) silent bringer of the eternal slumber, Mori Calliope, and the standouts of her syndicate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689801
Dont just throw "fake" and "genuine" around like it's a free pass. She is being unprofessional and that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690857
My tiny brain cant comprehend ur superior english anon.. please elaborate

[Anonymous No.]

based brapping cashcow is still making the 4chinks seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688727
>asian
isn't he philippino or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690735
you got the wrong door buddy, the retard and fag club is two blocks down

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck me you people are miserable

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691055
Buddy I've got some news for you on what continent the Philippines are...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689711
Assuming you live under a rock, Phasmo was a plan C. Mori didn't perform the bare minimum preparation twice over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690866
This. Everyone tries to be engaging with their fans in their own way and while a lot of the EN collabs are awkward, you can at least tell that the other girls put effort into them. The last two ITT with Mori were alright and I think she actually opened up and started interacting after the first thirty minutes and the TTRPG stream was good, but there's so many flops where she just doesn't seem to put in any effort both before and during the stream and she ends up leaning too heavily on her collab partners and it sucks. You can sit around and tell me all about how great she is when you get her T3 mem, but I'm never going to do that when she can't even convince me to watch her normally. She can't even get invested in the games she's playing when she solo-streams. Her music streams are fine because she actually cares about her music, but everything else is so... shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Why doesnt she just exclusively do music and ttrpg, seems to be things she's passionate about. I quite enjoyed the ttrpg stream, while otherwise I dont like watching her.

[Anonymous No.]

trying to expand her appeal to SEA

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691144
Nobody counts those as real people, let alone asians

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690731
Literally Seanigger cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690731
She changed countries to pursue a rap career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691350
*to pursue a rapper without career

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
Thanks anon, I hate Calli now

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689212
yes we do, also the majority of us are Trash Taste fans in the first place so this is a massive win. I honestly cannot wait for more collabs with them, I hope Mori brings the rest of holoEN to join in on the fun too

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690857
I enjoy these because they remind me of the old Pripara threads on /a/, back when they were allowed to get creative

[Anonymous No.]

I believe that none of the EN girls actually wanted to participate in Calli's TTRPG which was the final straw for her. She then took a week off to negotiate her standing in Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691399
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691506
You realize the next TTRPG stream is in 3 days right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691055
he's thai

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691170
Yeah, at this point I think I'm only going to listen to the music instead of bothering with streams. Every time she comes back from a break after the high of a song or album release I watch her streams, and she just doesn't improve on that front that much at all. Similar problems keep coming up, and I get frustrated and watch others instead. Her song/album release celebration streams tend to be alright, so leaving on a high note keeps tricking me into thinking this time it'll be the charm.

How much more into it she was with someone outside of Hololive kinda confirmed that the streams just aren't what she wants to be doing. And I don't enjoy watching them. I've kinda been shitting on her all day here to get it out of my system, but it does feel iffy with someone whose message in her own music is about self-growth and fighting to make it as a big motivational thing from someone who is just so unmotivated to be there.

Like, I'm glad she made it. And it is inspiring, especially after the last song on the last album before joining Hololive. But it feels kinda shitty how complacent she is during her streams. Bare minimum effort, if even that. Content creation is definitely a grind, and a visible one like this where you're live this often probably wasn't what she was ready for. But it's hard to support someone who doesn't even want to be there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691566
It'll be Calli doing all their voices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691224
Funny part is, I'm pretty sure most would be fine with this. Add in zatsu streams and it's good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
This entire list is so true that it's not even funny anymore. Why the fuck does she not take anything seriously besides her music. Callie should be graduated. She must leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691673
I'd kill for her just doing zatsudan streams.

[Anonymous No.]

Does Calli even like video games to begin with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690659
There's more?
wat

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691632
Separate the artist from the art. The words can still mean a lot to you and drive you to do things even if the person who wrote them isn't wholey behind the lyrics. If you're not a fan of most of the content she puts out, you should just unsub and buy albums when she releases them, maybe dump a supa in the chat during a lyrical breakdown or release day.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that only 4chan schizo incels give a shit about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
>Coco becomes more and more desperate to get ANY kind of reaction out of her and eventually asks 75k live viewers "is she always like this?"

Holy cow i would kill myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691831
The only thing I wanna dump on her is a sweet turd down her throat

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691837
yet you still feel the need to come here and white knight over someone who obviously doesn't care

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691861
That wasn't even the worst of it. She later asked Calli why she was asking like a crackhead to try and get her to wake up when that didn't work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691904
She absolutely would care given her last reaction to a little "feedback"
She'd have a full on panic attack reading this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
>Doesn't know the first thing about Reine during their collab together, keeps calling her 'senpai' and actually thinks she's a Turkey character

>Calling your kouhai your senpai

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691975
Well, if she can't see (some of) the criticism in this thread as being legitimate without freaking out, kinda tells you that there is a problem there, huh?

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>>4689527
Deadbraps will try to censor this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691975
then i hope she does see this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>4692167
Reine had to lead her along the way on the Minecraft server she was a guest on as well. She'd spent considerably less time on the server and already knew the general layout of it better than Mori.

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>>4689527
>Extremely and inexplicably rude to Kiara during the Takamori Q&A, nearly brought her to tears

This one was actually the one that got me to stop watching Mori. She was so stilted and awkward during this whole collab and it made me realize shes always like this. She sounds super fake during streams, like shes barely putting up with it. Sad because I like her music well enough but she just doesnt mesh well with Hololive I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
Deadbraps on suicide watch when exposed to the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689493
Why can't she be this enthusiastic during EN collabs? Why does she always show up to those with no fucking energy, barely talks, always has some kind of technical issue that gets the game changed or the stream delayed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689801
>People like Coco and Gura are very good at pretending to be enthusiastic. Do you not realize this?
There are a lot of people here that realize this.
If you're an adult that has an adult person job that you had to do to live and survive, the people who can do can do that are admirable, even if they're the type of person who has been adept at it since youth. They still do the same work, even if they're fake about it. The work is what matters, and being fake requires work in of itself, besides. I've seen too many people who have never "sold out" who are either spoiled assholes (because they found success) or miserable assholes (because they never got success). You may not like it, but being convincingly fake and pretending things are great is one of the key things that makes the world continue working.
I'll take the fake shit any day of the week. After a certain point it ceases to matter, the fake can become real or replace the real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
Just move her over to "Vsingers" or whatever that is that hololive is making in the background when it gets released.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689801
It's called putting effort into your job. They are literally payed to be entertaining, not "genuine".

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689801
If she can't even bring herself to feign interest in 90% of the content she's supposed to be doing in hololive maybe she shouldn't be working there.

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>>4691831
>If you're not a fan of most of the content she puts out, you should just unsub and buy albums when she releases them
That's exactly what she wants though. Why should you reward her?

Not that Anon, but I'm not going to buy anything from her. She doesn't need my money. She didn't do anything for me in any sense. I don't have to buy anything and if she wants to have it her way always then, hell, so will I. I'd rather buy something from TOS or any of her other friends before giving her money.

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>>4692705
Because you can still support the music aspect of her because you do enjoy it. Giving money for something shows interest in the subject. It's kinda why you see so many people getting pissy about twitter fights over IP's they have liked for many many years starting to do shit to either attract or get PR with people who have very little to no interest in the actual product.
Beyond that, showing her you like her music gives her the drive to create and focus on it more. Not giving her money during streams shows her you don't like her content there. It's not like you hate her actual produced content, it's just you dislike her as an entertainer, which is fine, but you don't have to throw everything she does away just because you dislike a single part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4692583
She needs to be good at singing to be move to Vsingers though.

[Anonymous No.]

Mori is the DSP of vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4692839
Except her work in hololive is the reason I know about her in the first place. I didn't find her as her roommate, I found her as a hololive vtuber. The vast majority of her fans are the same.

And why do I need to show her I'm interested in her music? She's already pretty enthusiastic about it. She's not going to stop because I'm not there, and if you ask her I bet she'd admit it, even be proud of the fact. She might pretend otherwise but both you and I know she'd flip me the bird in her heart. Half her songs as her roommate are her bitching about the problems she herself creates because she's too autistic to admit she has to depend on others. I can relate to the loneliness and the sorrow she feels because of it, but when I'm actually on the receiving end of her bullshit and know first hand why she's fucking alone, what the fuck am I going to disassociate from? There's no person who is the vtuber and then the musician, they're the same goddamn woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4693288
That's Ame..

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>>4693334
The lyrics still mean those things to you despite the fact that you don't think that they reasonably apply to the woman who sang them. There is no reason to get whiny and give up her music. Just stop watching her streams, and enjoy the releases when they pop up.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm fucking exhausted at how many excuses she has and how many times people eat it up
This girl has probably the most excuses per minute on stream and her twitter combined

At least with the Japs and their fucked immune systems, I'm willing to lend a simple ounce of my mind that it's believable the girls get sick all the god damn time.
This girl is a healthy American woman in Japan who was handed a winning lottery ticket for a career, even just a simple "lemme double check this" or "let me just pre-game before I go to bed" would do her wonders for her streams quality, not even talking about her low energy personality but even when she doesn't do any sort of work for her stream, aw man here comes ya boy with the excuses again please forgive me :( and money rains from the sky
It's exhausting, it's a meme to call it Stockholm Syndrome but Calli could at this point become a legit alcoholic and pass out on stream from her shitty konbini wine and people would go "aw it's okay Calli we all become alcoholics sometimes :)"

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>>4693437
>There is no reason to get whiny and give up her music.
You know what, you're right, there is no reason. It's not reasonable. But that's precisely the problem. I don't want to be reasonable. She's not being reasonable, so why should I be? Why do I have to be the better man when she refuses the bade minimum effort, or even a shred of honesty about it? If she had even the later and could drop the pretense, I would support her as an artist. But she doesn't even have the decency to do that. Since she won't come clean, then neither will I. So go tell her to be reasonable and see where that gets you.

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>>4693714
Money is a strong motivator. There's no way in hell she even thought about having the amount of money she has currently coming in. Like others have said, most of her streams are just her typically phoning it in with little to no prep unless she has explicit interest in the thing being streamed. If I were handed a bunch of money to do something I didn't like much and was told that I have a free pass to be apathetic about everything I do during that job, I would say 'SIGN ME UP'. It honestly comes down to her core fans becoming fed up with all the issues, and from what I've read around here, there were a few paypiggies making some light criticism on twitter about her inability to prep streams.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope Mori has at least half as much fun as I do while reading the endless shitstorms she constantly causes.

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>>4688670
she doesnt like vtubing or videogames, this is just a job to promote her musical career and make connections, she will do everything she can to avoid videogames and anime, she will bring in these scum for collabs, play card games and TTRPGs, anyhting at all but videogames and anime

and if she does have to play a videogame she will complain the whole time about how shit she is at videogames

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
Shes more comfortable in a collab with someone shes collabed with before, and is speaking her native language, simple as that

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694215
Explain every EN collab after the first 3 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694052
Fuck, TTRPGs and card games could be actually completely fine if IT IS FUN FOR HER AND SHE IS ENGAGING. Sure, there will be less watchers initially, but it is still so much better than fucking up for more than half a year and screwing your genmates.

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>>4693503
With this collab, it's pretty fucking clear she only sees her hololive gen mates as nothing more than co-workers, she is by contract, have to interact with them and be "friendly" but when it comes to her actual friends, she's alot more cheerful and energetic. After the podcast, she probably hangs out with those guys off stream, as they're all gaijin living in Japan knowing little to no Japanese, and people in similar situations tend to become good friends. Mori should have just became an indie or something, or join vshojo/nijisanji if she wants more freedom to collab with non vtuber males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694215
You legit don't watch mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694280
sure, I'm fine with both but her disingenuousness is annoying

dont go on other streams and be disinterested then abuse their kindness to make them do your thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689385
You are short and loved, but this is /vt/, so get the fuck out, gigguk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4693503
This is exactly why she'll never improve and fucked up in the end. Deadfags will always groom her for evry single moan of complain she throw with their akasupa. Honestly it's really scary to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4693334
The vast majority of her fans seem to have found her from Trash Taste, or at least that's how she's acting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691506
that's retarded, Ina wanted to play a ttrpg with them since the debut, Kiara was well prepared and interested, only Ame and Gura started off rather quiet but they seemed to get into it as the stream went on

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't the first explanation pretty accurate? She got a lot of criticism for not having good collabs so she tried to ramp it up and it just happened that her next collab that was planned in her schedule was with this dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691673
>>4691711
So you guys like her zatsudan streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694413
Lets be honest, Living 5years in japan TO pursue her DREAM, without bother to learn any japanese was already a redflag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688746
>mori has earned the benefit of the doubt
No. she hasn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689801
>She's the least fake because she doesn't modulate her emotions
Do you seriously believe that? Mori tries to fake enthusiasm all the time. Stop making up reasons to defend your waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694752
To be fair, she is doing her reps and she doesn't seem to be that bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR9XEG_JHdE

[Anonymous No.]

Are you ready to apologize? You hated her for TakaMori, and all it was was Mori being autistic and Kiara trying to be her friend. You hated her for leeching on hololive, and she ended up being loved by everyone there and even trying to help her lesser known senpai like Aki and Mel. You hated her for talking about Pekora, and she had a great collab with her and it turned out to not be a problem at all. You hated her for the baby stuff, and she addressed it on stream. You said so many things about her, and yet at the end of the day, Kiara would never betray her hololive fans and is always happy to stream.

So, are you ready to take a knee? Or do you want to wait until the pink cat collab comes around and nothing major happens again?

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>>4691638
I want this to be reality, but only as a joke.
>Calli doing very poor imitations of each one
>Long enough for people to think that this is just the stream now
>After a few minutes we hear giggles or laughter coming over Discord.
>Eventually one of them says "Hey! I'd never say that!" and the charade is broken.
It'd be kino.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694752
You don't learn Japanese whilst teaching English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694905
Mori being an inconsistent fuck-up doesn't excuse Kiara's chronic foot-in-mouth syndrome. That said, I don't hate Kiara and I will admit that she's at least thinking about Hololive and idolfaggotry rather than thinking she's trapped in a bubble after collabing with 3 people poorly.
I won't kneel to chimken yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694905
I still think she has her problems, but at least she fucking tries and clearly cares about hololive. So for questioning her loyalty I will apologize.

[Anonymous No.]

Trinitychads WW@?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694905
chimken love!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694943
It would be a legit good skit, so no chance of it happening on pink woman watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694905
All the begging for subs. She got a cool million, and still she whines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694905
I don't really like Kiara's personality and voice, but it is pretty clear that she puts in a lot of effort, even watches other member streams live and I really like the idea of holotalk

[Anonymous No.]

Deadbeat falseflags and derails the whole thread with little effort.
I fucking love it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689801
Pretending to be enthusiastic and being enthusiastic are the same thing. Gura and Coco make themselves enthusiastic and that's a real skill. Just like how feigned confidence is still confidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695332
She has good ideas but horrible execution sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

There's like ten fucking threads about this pink bitch, fucking /vt/ for fucks sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695385
ogey cuckbrap

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688718
>no she just wants the gigcock
doesn't everyone?

waitwaitwait. is that why the deadcucks are so mad? They want to be the one gigguk rails from behind? They're pissed that mori is taking the gigcock fas I type this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695385
>i-it's just a joke can't you s-see, Mori could never be that retarded
>i-it's just a falseflag can't you s-see, people could never have these opinions about your boy
You cried wolf a dozen times too many, dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4691144
SEAniggers are not asians, bud. Asian really means east asian

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688727
anon, gigguk is tall...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4692486
also I know this is the Mori anti thread and no one is reading this shit so I want to be clear that this isn't a criticism or implied criticism of Mori. She works her ass off, I just don't think anyone should be throwing other idols under the bus just because they do shit differently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690731
mentioned in trash taste podcast afaik

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
Im honestly really sorry for deadbeats. Mori started out so promising and has been absolutely shitting on her while fanbases for months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694905
I won't kneel to chicken until she drops chicken voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695969
I won't disagree that she works hard. The problem is that the thing that this board is for, you know, virtual youtubers, is something that she does not put much effort into. Her focus and creative energy does not go into Hololive. That's fine, but people are going to shit on her on a board that talks about her abilities in the context of vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695969
She works hard at her music and nothing else. She's neglecting half her job. In the real world that gets you fired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694905
fuck off kfp

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
> Collab with my irl boyfriend!
How deadbeats would react?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696304
they would lap up the cum dribbling off her lips and say thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696405
Hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
>>Doesn't know the first thing about Reine during their collab together, keeps calling her 'senpai' and actually thinks she's a Turkey character
Deadcucks will actually defend this, it's unreal

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688727
Gigguk already has a cute fiance tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696304
I would not be surprised at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694744
Her rpg streams are good too. Any slower paced game with downtime for commentary and chat interactions makes for good streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696015
why do people like this watch hololive? why not just follow monstercube on twitter and call it a day

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696517
Is that supposed to change anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688718
That guy is married.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696517
> Mori always collab with married man

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694280
Fewer watchers not less watchers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688727
Deadbraps should be happy about financing her boyfriends, honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696405
This kind of answers make me wonder "Would I do that? Would I kiss Mori in the lips full of another mans cum just feel her hot saliva going in my mouth?" Most of the time I just stop mid-thinking because I dont want to think about the answer even though I know the truth damn well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697177
I'll take note of that, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
>Was in a separate Discord channel thanking superchats during her second Among Us collab while her JP senpais all introduced themselves
For real?
Why doesn't she just thank people at the end of her streams like every single other member (except for Ina who's based and doesn't thank most people)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697395
She doesn't do it anymore. That was back when she was just starting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697395
Because she doesn't give a fuck about anyone but herself. She didn't even bother to learn how to play the game before the collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697449
>Because she doesn't give a fuck about anyone but herself
Wrong
She cares a lot of about anituber collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697449
Nigga, she has stopped doing that months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
What shit gura collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697517
Oh right, my bad.

>>4697552
The only thing she ever stopped doing was preparing for streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697449
She cares about collabs she thinks can grow her brand, she just thinks that Vtubers are a bubble that won't get her anywhere

[Anonymous No.]

My dad oshi is a whore, and I love it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
Maybe I should revive the old Mori shazam pasta again. Seems like a good time to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4693503
I now want a v tuber to pass out from alcohol poisoning on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4694489
Anyone able to defend doesn't watch the streams, making stuff up is easier than lying about what you know happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697578
River City Girls collab
>permissions fall through because they only have ps4 permissions and need PC version for remote play multiplayer
>switch to cuphead on steam remote play
>Gura has a full second of lag on everything
>Gura can't handle it and complains
>Mori stops after 1 boss
>They move to phasmophobia
>they have mic issues and play for about 30 minutes
>Mori cuts the stream
>she whines on twitter about negative feedback and privates the video
>she complains about negative feedback to privating the video and un-privates it again with the technical difficulties edited out, promising to take collabs more seriously
this all happened about 2-3 days ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689527
Your doing gods work anon. Saved

[Anonymous No.]

>>4693503
>Finally caught a Mori stream
>She said "Naruhodo" for 3 hours straight and then fell asleep on stream
>What a great entertainer she is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4693503
She needs a fraction of Ame’s OCD to be successful. Otherwise she is a sloppy dumpster fire riding on luck. She isn’t even the best rapper in HoloEN, what the fuck is your appeal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4693503
it truly is amazing how every time it's something outside of her control yet the other girls never have the same number of issues

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
The most surprising thing about all of this is how many people didn't expect this to happen. Mori NEVER wanted to be a vtuber, she has been trying to make it off of her music first and foremost over everything else. Did people really not expect her to just use hololive as a stepping stone to push her shitty rap to the most people as possible? You can guarantee if she was allowed to collab with Charlie, vshoujo, and any other random big personalities she would be all over it just to promote her next song or album.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
I think this might be mori's way of resigning from hololive. She's not brave enough to do it directly, so she'll stirr up more shit until the management asks her to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698293
Her return stream made her sound like and entitled douchebag that was somehow owed fame. Fucked her and the dredges she wants to elevate. Bitch they suck for a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698293
she already has tried to collab with Charlie and other twitch/youtube react guys but hololive isn't letting her
that's what sparked the whole "hololive is a bubble" thing. She doesn't want to collab with indies she wants to collab with big 50-100k viewer twitch streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698293
Her return stream made her sound like an entitled douchebag that was somehow owed fame. Fuck her and the dredges she wants to elevate. Bitch they suck for a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

*slurp* bigh umphs for the akaspacha *gulp* GUH he just cummed in ya boy's mouth

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697130
... shit, there's actually a pattern there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698398
>>4698347
>"I want to collab with more indies. Help the little guy, y'know?"
>Next two collabs are with THE most popular vtuber in Hololive (in a triple-scuffed stream, even) and an anituber that's more popular than her.
Mori just say you want to collab with 3D streamers and people you already know. Quit fucking around with this bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4689385
>>4688727
Just googled it, and wow Gigguk is 6ft. Now it all makes sense
>Gigguk is 6ft, has wife
>Joey is 6ft, has girlfriend
>Connor is 5'8", is single.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
honestly she basicly put herself in a lose lose situation, the only way she wouldve lost the least was to mess up this collab similar to the gura one and then did better with her next in-house collab but this would only work in the case of the former and not the latter.


honestly cali needs to revaluate her situation and take a step back, look at all the different criticisms and figure something out because ive noticed both on this board and in general people are starting to get tried and annoyed of her generally not great streams.
the honeymoon period has begun to end and soon people will just stop watching leaving only yes-men and people wholl just go with what shes doing b/c of sunken cost

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698224
You missed the part where her chat was actually pointing out the potential problems with lag etc to her before, and she ignored them - even GLOATED on stream in the beginning how she "made it work anyways!" after wasting everybodys time fiddling with settings that should have been setup BEFORE the stream - and then had to fold like a little bitch again when her fucking "haha who cares let's just wing it"-attitude made her embarass herself again.
That she then had the nerve to private the streams (oh because it "was not up to your standards??" well that would be more convincing if you actually prepared beforehand, because otherwise this lack of care demonstrates that THIS IS exactly your standard) and send off a passive aggressive tweet afterwards is just the cunt cherry on top of the shit sandwich.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698660
>cali needs to revaluate her situation and take a step back, look at all the different criticisms and figure something out
Never going to happen. Prepare for the final yab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698660
>take criticism
all she needs to do is prepare for collabs
that's it
just write a few jokes and a few stories beforehand in case you draw blanks, play the game for about a half hour to an hour the day before to work out all the technical shit
that's literally all people are asking for

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698919
that would be part of what i mean, yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>4690845
Do you think he makes his fiance watch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698919
>all she needs to do is prepare for collabs
It gets my blood boiling when I think about how much money some of these girls make doing this only to see how sometimes they can't be assed to even open the game they plan to play ONCE before a stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699211
No, she is too busy streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699412
if it's any consolation, Mori is the only one who does this
Gura, Ame, Kiara, and Ame are all perfectionists and play through chunks of games before they play them on stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698919
but that'd take """effort""" and time away from rather hanging out with my new eceleb friends, ugggh why does Hololive have to be such a goddamn ~bubble~ with people expecting me to actually give a minimum shit, can't they see the amount of cash I (me alone personally, and Hololive certainly had nothing to do with it, fuck em) I make from my deadbrap simps, which means I'm right and don't need to improve?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697026
Wouldn't he abandon his wife for a 2d whore like a true "ironic weeb"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699529
>Gura, Ame, Kiara, and Ame

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699529
This implies the entire JP side doesn't exist at all. No one in Holo has done it to her degree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699529
I would disagree with Gura and DMC, but then that was the whole idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699640
lmao I did not catch that, Ina is so boring I literally forgot her name and wrote Ame twice

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699672
I don't know man. When gura sucks at DMC people just think it's cute and excusable that she spams one move the entire time, and DMC 3 was her 2nd DMC game. Subaru played DMC and saw that she sucked and spent hours offstream practicing and came back with some good combos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699412
What's even worse is that a large part of the fanbase, and even some girls themselves, then still pull the card of "Haha, cursed EN scuff, so funni, amirite, nothing we can do about it!" to coddle the streamers (and the streamers coddling themselves) so that they never have to actually improve or do better.
It's not """scuff""", when it's not unavoidable external issues like an ISP fucking up, but completely preventable and self-inflicted problems caused by not giving a shit, not testing and preparing, and not even learning from the goddamn LAST TIMES this already happens, which all but guarantees it will happen again and again, and it has stopped being cute a long time ago. You're almost a year into this "job" that got you a seven figure following with a six figure income, and the least you could do to live up to that is to finally start acting like you give a shit (but what am I saying, especially the "gets money already no matter what"-part of the asinine fanbase keeps assuring that it'll never get better).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699785
She clearly just likes to see the wacky woohoo pizza man on her screen. Hard to blame her for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699683
>best EN
>boring

[Anonymous No.]

I've given up with Mori after seeing the bs she put me through with shadowverse and her collab bubble excuses, you play the game shitty with your own genmate who just has fun hanging out with you but then you suddenly decide to take the game seriously because of some anituber faggot? Disgusting, I'm disappointed in her and I hope she doesn't try forcing the girls into collabs like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699543
Can I say how incredibly frustrating it is that Roboco might as well not exist for Mori, despite the fact she knows K's personally? I mean, it's already pretty bad that she ignores all the other musicians in holoJP, but when you have shared acquaintance like that you have to wonder what goes on inside her head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699892
yes, she's boring and her fans are retards with Dunning Kruger and an inferiority complex

[Anonymous No.]

>4699916
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699916
irredeemably shit taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699892
I want to bully Ina for being a shy retard who can't speak

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699979
implying I want the same taste as some pathetic fag
suck start a shotgun

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699529
The other girls still have their problems, but the main issue is that they keep their "scuff" mostly in their solo streams, so for people who aren't fans of theirs it is pretty easy to ignore at least.

Mori on the other hand is the one who brings her issues (like, completely avoidable "scuff" by lack of preparation, and overall mostly bored/grumpy attitude) into collab streams the most out of all of them, so it's pretty annoying for fans of the other girls (or pretty much anyone who isn't a deluded deadbrap at this point, noticed the pattern) who are forced to endure watching her in collabs, and they're tired of her shit.

And then there's the nerve of deadbraps calling all criticisms of her a "timeloop!!", yeah well guess why people keep pointing out the same problems with Mori, it's because she KEEPS MAKING THEM over and over again!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699785
To be fair, she was very tired on her second DMC3 stream and she didn't learn anything from her DMC5 stream because she played on easy, which is literal journalist mode, then jumped back to DMC3, where it would have been understandable that she played on easy since that game is actually difficult. It's the kind of thing that happens when you start on the latest entry of a franchise that always builds on the previous ones. If she had played DMC4 she would've probably had a better time since that game starts with Nero, which she's pretty acquainted with and is much more straight-forward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699896
> I've given up with Mori after seeing the bs she put me through with shadowverse and her collab bubble excuses, you play the game shitty with your own genmate who just has fun hanging out with you but then you suddenly decide to take the game seriously because of some anituber faggot? Disgusting, I'm disappointed in her and I hope she doesn't try forcing the girls into collabs like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699916
Bayo has been kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700172
god you cant even wojak properly

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699990
Same, anon, but I'm also too shy of a retard to bully her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
Mori doesn't care about Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

I guess upcoming TTRPG collab will make or break the whole thing. This is Mori-driven stream, so she can present herself the best. Or fail as usual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4692167
>>Doesn't know the first thing about Reine during their collab together, keeps calling her 'senpai'
this would honestly be funny as a shitpost to do on purpose if Ame or Gura wanted to prank their kouhai
but its just sad when it's done by accident

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699896
It could be the other way around too, she got serious after losing to Kiara and then reached out to Gigguk to improve/get content out of this whole thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699896
> disappointed in her and I hope she doesn't try forcing the girls into collabs like this
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700253
This, hopefully the TTRPG thing can make her put some effort in the collab and such. This will show if shes at least capable of collabing with her genmates properly when she puts her 100% on it helped by a topic she enjoys or if she is actually so retarded that she cant collab properly unless its a e-celleb. I have faith in you mori please dont let me down

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699836
Yeah I know, but the difference in work put in while off stream is pretty big.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700090
I don't even think it's the difference between scuffed solos and scuffed collabs, it's simply that her attitude and complaints about hololive being a bubble, while clearly being infatuated with the en weeb twitch bubble, have eroded the benefit of the doubt that she used to have, while the others still get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700395
I missed a lot of things on the EN side, when did she complain it was a bubble?

[Anonymous No.]

at the end of the day i think i prefer Ame and Gura pretending to have never played the day's game than Mori doing no prep whatsoever

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700475
Her return stream. It is a bit veiled but still pretty obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700343
>This, hopefully the TTRPG thing can make her put some effort in the collab and such.
That's not the problem though. She could do that, and it would change nothing.

The problem is that she doesn't put effort on anything that's not HER idea. Of course she's going to do well when she's presenting a game to her genmates who don't know anything about it and directing the way things go. The problem is that she's completely incapable of following along when she's not in that position.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700521
Just saw it. Surprisingly easy to find with the timestamps lol. But yeah I can see how weird it sounds, since she hasn't really interacted with the Hololive bubble except for EN side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700687
She's about to become top 2 subscribed in Hololive and she has still barely interacted with the JP side at all. Instead she wants to shill her indie friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700475
she said she wanted to collab with western indies but idk who there is that's big?
Bahroo? VShojo? Tsunderia? Pikamee?
I find it hard to believe she's out here dying to collab with Pikamee when she has over triple the subs and viewers Pikamee has

what's more likely is she wants to collab with XQC, Moonmoon, MoistCritikal, Dunkey, etc and is calling them "indies" so it doesn't look like she's abandoned vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699672
Gura at least did the due diligence and opened the game with OBS first to see if it would even function. She mentioned having seen parts of the OP while setting up. She also did make sure her controller worked with the game, although you don't have to go farther than the main menu for that. Mori didn't even install Cuphead even though the stream was updated to Cuphead at least an hour beforehand.

>>4700100
Gura talked about changing to Easy after getting her shit pushed in by Vergil for a whole stream, but when chat told her she'd have to replay the whole game on Easy she was like "Nah, guess I'll have to git gud". I suspect somebody will tell her she can grind off-stream and she'll magically have an extra couple of bars of HP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700565
>Of course she's going to do well when she's presenting a game to her genmates
I like Mori but Im not even sure she can do this right. What Im trying to say is that if the collab goes well then at least that means that collabing with Mori and having the collab go well is ACHIEVABLE even if youre not an e-celleb, of course this doesnt mean she would then do well in other collabs, she would and will most likely be shit in the next collab if they are not her idea but it would mean that if she puts the effort (unlikely but not impossible) she can perform well in a collab that was not her idea, although it would take some time

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700565
did you forget the Overcooked collab?
it was Mori's Idea and she completely fucked it up, being completely silent in some parts and making other ENs pick up the slack

[Anonymous No.]

The virginity and social underdevelopment in this thread is fucking staggering. I'm honestly impressed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700896
thanks for posting him, makes me feel handsome by comparison

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700395
Complaining about being in a "bubble" when she's had less interaction with the JP branch than Watson who doesn't speak any Japanese at all is completely ridiculous. Mori never really got over her hate for idols based on her actions. She's way more comfortable with ironic weeb anitubers than her senpais.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700879
>did you forget the Overcooked collab?
I mean, I wanted to...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700914
you're welcome, but it takes more than looks to have sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700896
Imagine being born with Filipino genes, how much would that suck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700915
Yeah, even if she can't speak that much japanese or do that much games, at least karaoke streams with some senpais that already wanted to stream with her like Suisei or something. They are handing her opportunities but she's throwing it away for indies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700957
yeah unfortunately I have a career and no desire to become Kadokawa's lapdog and shill their absolute trash anime every season to 15 year old weebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700793
I wouldn't mind her shilling her indie friends but at least shill the fucking musicians or artists, not anitubers and twitch streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700959
>makes 6 figures by fucking your oshi
>actually has sex
can't be that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700793
Might wanna check how much the #1 person has interacted with the JP side there, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>4701000
the musicians like Moe Shop are too busy collaborating with real vtubers like Kizuna-Ai to talk to Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700988
imagine working 40 hour weeks when you could work 10 at most and make double just by having surface-level banter about your favorite hobby

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698608
>>Connor is 5'8", is single.
He's also railing all of our favorite chuubas because height is a meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700793
based as fuck desu. she values comrade above being a performance monkey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4701009
I don't think there's a single person in the world who has Hajime Hime as their oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>4701015
Yes but she hasn't interacted much with anyone outside EN at all, which is the difference. I'll talk shit about her when she starts to do that too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700253
Is that thing even still alive? Ame and Gura were asleep for most of the first stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4701015
Gura hasn't been autistically stamping her feet wanting a collab with moistcritical.

[Anonymous No.]

More Danganronpa 2! Case 3 was a mess. :|
https://www.twitch.tv/guardianzet

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700987
Please let's stop saying "indies" like it's indies in general when it's just the people she already knows, which she wants to "uplift" so they don't exclude her from their circle.

God, Mori is fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4701077
I have seen the superchat numbers, tubers with up to 500k subs make less than I do from my day job
I'm going to stick with what I have lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine being so insecure about your oshi's incompetence in doing basic streaming reps that you try to falseflag literally everyone else as a sexless incel that has never seen let alone touched grass.
I admire the hustle, though. Keep farming those (You)s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4701015
Gura isn't collabing with anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4693503
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700959
Imagine being white thinking you're superior when in fact your life is much worse than his.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4701088
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
My rrat: Connor has said in the past that the trash taste cast and calli became friends during the aftershow drinking party. She's actually familiar with him and friends so she was able to relax. She doesn't know coco and she's never met gura personally, they're both strangers to her compared to the trash taste cast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4701200
>heheh it's all just a falseflag, y-yeah i didn't need my lunch money anyway
Kill yourself, deadbeat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4701200
Honestly anyone who gives a fuck abut Mori probably already realized that she's a garbage streamer who gets subs and views only due to her music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4701015
Gura is just enjoying the ride and is too busy with alcoholism and self-hatred for collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>all this rrat posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>4701088
https://youtu.be/zcPcZErvW5M
Reminder that Connor is fucking badass and deserves to fuck your favorite chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4688670
Man you guys really don't understand Calli do you? Here's how it works. Calli is a socially awkward wigger weeb with no self confidence and imposter syndrome. She's the kind of person who will awkwardly tell a joke and then laugh at her own joke to make sure that people know it's a joke. She might even throw in a meek, "Did you get it?" afterwards and then immediately silently berate herself. She hates awkward silences and will try to fill them. She seeks approval and confirmation but she's also dense as fuck so even if people are giving her approval and confirmation and praise, she wouldn't be able to tell and the few times she is able to tell, she doesn't believe them because of her low self esteem. And this is all how she is in her normal life.
As a Vtuber? An entertainer, a presenter with literally thousands of eyes on her? Ohh boy. She will also feel extra pressure to perform in a collab because it's not just her, it's her colleagues and she's worried about messing up in front of them and also for them and their fans, in addition to her own. So she will try too hard and then cringe and then there will be a lull while she silently tells herself that she is an idiot, and a moron, and stupid, and there will always be a lull because Gura is a non entity in collabs right now and Ame can't always carry everything. Eventually Calli will stop beating herself up long enough to realize "OH GOD NOTHING IS HAPPENING ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING AND EXPECTING US TO ENTERTAIN THEM THEY GAVE US SO MUCH MONEY, I DON'T DESERVE THIS" and so she'll launch right into the fray again the only way she knows how, by talking energetically and also taking care to enunciate things and describe them for the ESL audience since she used to be an English Teacher. Occasionally she will become genuinely amused or tilted at something in game and that will slip through, but because she's a sperg, her genuine emotions will still be as awkward as her forced ones.
Then when the collab/stream ends, she will collapse on her bed silently weeping and thinking about all the things she could have done better. She'll think about her fellow rapper from whom she heard about the Hololive auditions and feel guilty for taking their shot, they wanted it so much more than she did, she just applied on a whim, and even though they told her it was okay, it's not REALLY okay, they are just saying that to be nice because they are a good person unlike me because I'm such a piece of shit for stealing my friend's dream and I deserve to die.
Then she drinks and cries herself to sleep.

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>>4700253
>>4700343

No, the real proof of improvement will not be the next ttrpg stream, because (and this is the actual issue that people have with her) she has already shown that she CAN make the effort to give a shit when it's about something she actually cares about, like her music, her rpg project, or... now sadly shown, eceleb dicksucking collabs.

People want her to bring the same, or at least some, of that enthusiasm when it's not a super special personal event for her, but only a "mere" regular game collab with her own genmates, which she has too often lazily phoned in.
So the measure to watch out for is what happens over the next "normal" collabs, if she has gotten the message there.

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>>4700896
fuck off gigacuck

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>>4701288
Do you really have to meet people in person to develop a friendship? It's not like mori never talked to gura behind the scenes. I don't understand why they are so uncomfortable with each other.

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>>4701372
That does not excuse her sheer disregard for appropriate preparation. She doesn't even try. IF she wants to make excuses she needs to demonstrate some effort first.

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>>4693503
>Calli could at this point become a legit alcoholic and pass out on stream from her shitty konbini wine and people would go "aw it's okay Calli we all become alcoholics sometimes :)"

This would only make her more popular just look at that time Emma fell asleep playing Fall Guys or Coco went full zombie on sleeping pills playing MC.

Honestly I don't care about her shitty content. If people like her style it's their problem. The thing is she shows again and again and again how little she cares about Hololive.

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>>4701372
Hope this becomes a pasta

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>>4701372
i'll read this once you promise to take your meds

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>>4701015
Gura is just a lazy piece of shit.

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>>4701372
This would make sense if not for the fact she was super enthusiastic in this collab.

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>>4701499
The difference is she doesn't pretend she isn't

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>>4701478
Coco was different though. She thought she was stream but it was just recording so she then played that video of her doing that while commentating on it. She didn't do it live.

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>>4700795
Hint, with her it was never about actual "indies" or whatever the convenient pretense was, instead it was always just using her newfound clout from Hololive to finally get an "in" into her favorite eceleb circles that wouldn't have looked at her before when she was a nobody.

It's actually the opposite from all the "indie!"-bullshit she likes to spout, and quite scummy in its cynicism.

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>>4701372
Take your meds, Calli. Also make sure your games are installed and you have permissions BEFORE you try to play them on stream.
Paradox saved your ass with WoD permissions because they're desperate for publicity, but don't forget that you fucked that one up, too.

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>>4694694
>Kiara was well prepared
She made all that shit up 5 minutes before the stream.
But she IS interested and excited about it.

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>>4701499
Gwomba is legit socially retarded.

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>>4701372
All you have to do is check the fucking game you sperg bitch.

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>>4701441
I for one have never known someone only from the internet who I'd consider a friend, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was like that for some other people too. I need to meet people eye to eye to really become friends.

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>>4701372
It's not like Gura is totally unfamiliar to her after working together for HALF A YEAR. And this is not counting time they had before the gen even began. They, the five, were literally their first audience.

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>>4701372
Bitch, the Coco, Ollie collab will have 20k+ audience. Practice. Practice. Practice!

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>>4701372
Thanks for the insight, mori. You’re still fucking shit as a streamer and need to step the fuck up.

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>>4700896
It will never not be funny to me that Deadbraps are being reduced to actually having to cape for Gigguk and his eceleb faggot circles (so, people who you'd be hounded off the board for, if they weren't related to Mori) because their oshi has decided to hitch her ride to him and her new, better """friends""" instead of staying in the ~Hololive bubble~, and her fans are coping through the mental gymnastics of "y-yeah that's actually all well and cool, y-yaaas kweeen, we actually really like TT just as you do Mori, and c-can't wait to see more collabs with them...."

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>>4699575
Anon his wife is already a vtuber. . .

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>>4701732
Jesus fuck this will be a disaster.

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>>4701372
tl;dr

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>>4701441
Well, they are introverted to significant degree and open up easier from behind the avatar of some sort, so it can go both ways between them, really. Maybe Mori just needs to have a glass or two with Gura, look her in the eye and shoot the shit for an evening. She is also non-trivially older.

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>>4694969
You don't learn it by living in Japan and then going out of your way to find all the English-speaking expats either.

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>>4690658
But flute collab with Ina was hilarious

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Look at this bubble. It's making me gasp for air with how small it is. It's so tiny and constrictive.

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>>4701499

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>>4701499
But she's an HONEST lazy piece of shit.

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>>4701372
You know, that could've worked better if we were still in autumn last year and Mori was still new and her "aww poor widdle me is such a fuckup and doesn't deserve all your generous donations"-shtick was still being cute.

By now she doesn't even care to read her donations anymore, she treats large parts of her "Hololive job" as an odious chore at best, keeps repeating the same beginner mistakes that would've been ironed out by now by anyone who actually gave a shit, and has gotten lazy and entitled and being an e-celeb has gotten to her head that she cares more about hanging out with her other favorite ecelebs.

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>>4702000
They're all japanese! She can't speak japanese so the bubble is just her and rest of EN. She wants to collab with english speaking chuubas.

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>>4701959
Carried entirely by Ina. Mori, THE MUSICIAN, didn’t practice a goddamn thing and just sat there making awkward flute noises to cheer on ina.

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>>4701372
>Man you guys really don't understand Calli do you? Here's how it works.
Nope, here is how she works.

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>>4702136
tbf ina used to be in a school band and can still play by ear <at least simple stuff>, but yeah, she carried the stream hard + she was the one who came up with the idea for it, mori just tagged along

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>>4702136
True. It was hilarious when Ina actually did a semi-competent tune and Mori could not match her for shit. Not to mention all the puns. Shows you who the adult in the room was.

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>>4689527
Don't forget that she didn't even confirm properly that she had WoD permissions, and had to cancel the collab she'd been planning for months at the last minute because she assumed she could use the Dark Pack streaming rules (that only apply to solo streamers). That stream was literally only saved because Paradox has a staff member that's a deadbeat and they fast-tracked a deal with Cover on the spot. If she hadn't bitched about it in a Members' stream one of Mori's best collabs would've been shitcanned.

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>>4702062
If you're going to be lazy, at least be like gura and be lazy across the board. Don't be lazy with Holo members then not be lazy with people outside Holo.

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>>4702212
This is golden

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>>4702129
>She wants to collab with english speaking chuubas.
Boogey Voxx and Ririsya speak English?

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>>4702212
Im gonna fucking cry

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>>4702445
Right so if she's okay with japanese then why isn't she collabing with her senpais before the indies? She's creating the bubble herself by limiting her own collabs in hololive.

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>>4701372
meds

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>>4702212
My fuckin sides

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>>4702397
>>4702506
>>4702746
have another one

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>>4702129
>She wants to collab with english speaking chuubas.
No, she just wants to collab with people she already knows because she has zero interest in leaving her comfort zone. You're never going to see her reach out to some indie that she's never spoken to before for a collab.

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>>4702785
Hahahaha oh my god this is just too good. Thanks for sharing anon

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>>4689527
The korone collab was enjoyable but korone was the one pulling all the weight

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>>4703250
That applies to every calli collab that is enjoyable except 2 perhaps.

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>>4702129
English reps are becoming more common among Holos and she spent years as an English teacher. Mori collabs with JPs would unironically be great for both, as the JP would get real-life practice in Eigo and Mori would be able to stay engaged with the collab by coaching girls through English phrases.

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>>4702900
But she has already responded to various Vshojos and.... oh wait oh no no NO NO NO HAHAHA

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>>4689527
>Extremely and inexplicably rude to Kiara during the Takamori Q&A, nearly brought her to tears
That is it. That bitch has gone too far.

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>>4703464
Mori was as JET teacher, which means she doesn't actually know how to teach english

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>>4703968
I sometimes wonder why elevens even allow that. Are they this starved for eigo teachers to even consider inviting people without any proper education?

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>>4703968
She can't be worse than duolingo.

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>>4702785
You're the real MVP anonchama

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>>4704086
They work them like slaves and barely pay anything. Mori was living in a fucking box disguised as an apartment previously and said as much on stream, so little space that she had to put her mouse on top of her tower and use it like that.

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>>4704086
>>4704140
JET teachers are not teachers, they're glorified TAs who get paid minimum wage
and that's if you work for the Japanese govt sponsored jobs, there are shady private companies who have even worse conditions

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>>4700896
christ, are you seriously simping for gigguk now? deadbeats really are cucks

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>>4704486
It's literally one guy in every Mori thread trying to scapegoat incels as the reason people disliked the collab, while everyone actually complaining about the collab is mostly just asking why the fuck she can't put 10% of that effort into other collabs.

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>>4688670
Nah, she seems to unironically like the game, or at least be driven by some aspect of it like the competition or getting the runback against Kiara. Basically, she's the type that can only be truly enthusiastic when engaging in things of interest, as seen in the other successful collab of hers, the TTRPG collab. She may know this about herself to an extent, and seems to be working on her overall energy/enthusiasm levels.
Also Gigguk was an unironic fan of Shadowverse, having played 1000 hours of it and reaching the highest rank at one point. So he was able to share her autistic energy regarding the game. Basically, they could just have fun since it's a game they both enjoy, which is good for Mori since she's bad at pretending to like things. But that may not last for long after she experiences the meta. She is extremely butthurt about Kiara's deck, after all. Not that I can't understand that since it's pretty unfun to play against.

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>>4704345
hey sometimes they're the teacher because the Japanese teacher is a lazy bum, sometimes they're a desk warmer. But they do always get paid a shit wage

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>>4689527
Can't defend this

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>>4700343
Is she incapable of starting a discussion herself or something?

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>>4702212
Holy shit that fucking got me

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>>4705384
I think shes just really uninterested and ungrateful. She has the attitude of a walmart employe that hates their job when she probably earns a six fig and had a one in a billion opportunity that a lot of people would love to have

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>>4694905
Kiara tries way too hard, and as a result a pretty obnoxious as a vtuber. Her Pekora collab was bad for reasons that everyone talked to death.
Mori is entirely different ballpark. She does not like vtubing, gaming, or hololive lore and culture in general. She was handed over a free golden ticket with Cover giving her amazing starting kit and an audience, and she milks it dry to boost her music career without giving anything back.
Chiken bad, but I wouldn't even count pink woman as a proper holo at this point.

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>>4706693
Kiara has many flaws, but at least she tries sometimes. Hell, she tries to engage with her community as much as possible like ollie does. Also, is still weird she used this high pitch voice for her character when she used her regular voice on one of her stream and it sounded way nicer, wonder why she didn't try sticking with that

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>>4704086
They’re just assistant teachers. My friend got a job with JET after undergrad despite being on track for law school. You don’t need any experience in education at all.

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>>4700793
Let her. Keep her out of JP. I hate her for what she did to Coco

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Did she really make Kiara want to cry during Takamori Q&A?

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>>4701037
>Kizuna-Ai
Didn't everyone say she lost her funk when the original left?

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>>4701288
My rrat:
She was gone because she went camping with Joey and Giguk and had sex with both of them. Now she's moving in with them in whatever that landlocked prefecture is.

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>>4706693
There was nothing wrong with her Pekora collab save for the minute when Kiara broke into tears, which antis latch on to this day. Them not happening to collab since doesn't mean they hate each other or whatever.

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>>4707230
Yes. It was bizarre how grumpy she was for no reason. Kiara actually talked about it later on, she had no idea what the fuck was going on either.

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>>4707481
Pekora was trying to show this cool thing she and her friends built, while Kiara couldn't give too shits about it, just overwhelmed by the moment of being in the same discord call with her oshi.
All culminating in that final goodbyes that probably convinced Pekora to never speak to her again.
I can't even call that a collab, more like a make-a-wish stream. The only highlight was Moona showing up.

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>>4707481
Based, Pekora collab was fun
https://streamable.com/10ug9g

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>>4707764
Was it this one https://youtu.be/G3zAKMFfilM?t=465 ?

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>>4707954
I dont know if the previous anon meant that one but what the fuck was her deal

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>>4688727
>sexually attracted to short asian men
kek why tf would a woman like that

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>>4707954
>Doing her random Jap word insert shit
>Mechanically starts humming RIP when a sentence in it comes up
>"Don't take it too personally koosohtoeree" (While talking about their friendship)
What the fuck is wrong with this woman?

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>>4688670
come back with your apologia once the VOD is deleted. not privated. deleted.

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>>4707288
The original is the only Ai and has been for years, the thing with the other voice actors ended a long time ago.

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>>4694905
When she develops an actual personality i might start watching her.
Also if Mori is shit,imagine how shit someone who's whole shtick boils down to simping for her is.