/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone explain why Flare is the shitter of sankisei?

[Anonymous No.]

brown elf sex

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Look closely to her chat

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>>46092848
Because she's a nigger of sankisei.

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>>46092848
>Flare
Who?

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>>46092848
Humans are closer to dwarves than elves.
Lamy is only successful because she looks like an slave sex elf.

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>>46092848
She's easily the least entertaining and forgettable.

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>>46093106
Secretive fanbase
Chuuba herself is unnecessarily a bitch all the time
Chuuba hates gfe + lewd shit
Chuuba gaslights her chat into admitting she’s always right
New viewers get zoned out by secret club mentality
Menhera moments
Throws fandom shit out of the window the moment said shit gets mentioned (ex. The noel fad)
Chuuba is passive aggressive
Just to name a few. I like her and I’ve been following her and religiously watching all her streams, especially the ones with Polka and Migo.
She was enjoying herself at the beginning but she has something within her that never allows her to have fun and letting it go.
Flare’s a weird woman.

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>>46092848
Because she hates everything people like about her and the things she wants to push nobody cares about

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She's only good in shiraken collabs. Her solo streams are boring shit.

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>>46092848
She has Wardrobe changes and her Schtick back the is being the Androgynous talent that attracts girls which not surprisingly not attract Males

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>>46092848
She's a bitch

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>>46092848
>Can anyone explain why Flare is the shitter of sankisei?
Why would this be a question when every fucking idiot subconsciously knows the truth?
You know a vtuber is shit when is carried by her gen.
You know a vtuber is shit when is carried by her brand.
Hololive is full of mediocre streamers, there's a reason Coco, Rushia, Aloe, lost all their viewership without the blue dorito brand

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It's the Kiara problem. Sombody has to come last and between horny, boobs, war crimes, [REDACTED] and dark elf, dark elf is just the least interesting.

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>>46092848
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

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>>46095140
What carries them is not quite the brand in itself, it's the box. At least not on regular stream days, that is. Same reason why Niji tends to be more top-heavy than Hololive despite the comparable strength of the brand.

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>>46093601
>hates gfe
that's surprising, from the outside looking in I thought she was at worst ambivalent

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>>46093601
Everyone thought Noel would be the menhera of the couple. But I always knew the real menhera was Flare all along.

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You know the Ameway where she does things the way she wants and doesn't really give a fuck? I get the same impression from Flare. She streams what she wants to do and doesn't try to gain fake subs by acting out of her character.

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Denied her dark elf blood. She killed her elf loving fanbase.

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>>46095140
>Aloe
Oh yeah, she had amazing viewership when in hololive.. Such a popular streamer with so many streams and so many regular viewers who watched her for so long... What a loss...

Fucking dumbass

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>>46097177
totally this
Flare does what she wants.

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>>46097296
Hey, you know to this day Aloe is the holo with the highest average CCV per stream.

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>>46097375
Hey look, it's proof why average ccv is a retarded metric and all numberfags are idiots.

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>>46095739
She is GFE
She explicitly denies having a boyfriend and does not collab with men, or bring up female dominant topics like BL or fashion. Don't listen to EOPs.
Flare just got put with 4 heavy hitters and trying to compete against them for attention is hard, she would do better in a different gen and most would do worse than her. Add in that she's very opinionated and can be combativewithpeople, and you have a chuuba that requires investment to enjoy. Why deal with Flare ignoring your overtly sexual supachat if others will read it?
She is 100% """GFE""" like all gen 3, as if being loveable and not constantly reminding everyone how out of their league you are is a negative trait.

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>>46093601
Ayoo this is not chuuba fanbase anymore, this is religious cult in making

btw Furea's song Atelier is nice, and been on my playlist for a while

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>>46097444
Only thing it proves is that debut buff is a thing.

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>>46097597
Is any woman nice to you GFE?

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>>46097597
Does that really qualify as GFE now? So she's unicorn-friendly, but I think the minimum qualification should be a level of affection towards chat that goes beyond friendliness. Like I said though this is just from the outside looking in but Flare to me seems like the Female Friend Experience.

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>>46092848
She constantly fights against her character Archetypes and therefore drives away the people who are attracted by it

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>>46097797
Just watch her stream and you'll understand
There's being nice, which is very easy, and there's being please and aware of someone else's emotions, which is how holos stream.

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>>46097860
Holy mother of ESL

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>Stop calling me a dark elf
>Stop pushing the Noel ship on me
>Stop fawning over me
>Stop asking me to collab with the others
I mean, she's basically just asking for it at this point

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>>46097919
Anon that's in perfect English

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>>46097914
I do watch her, and I don't know about that anon. Being pleasant and aware of someone else's emotions is just what a nice, good person does, that doesn't have any romantic undertones. Chloe or Rushia are what I would consider to be GFE.

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>>46097997
>Chloe GFE
Confirmed for a thread shitter
Flare is more gentle and caring to her viewers

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone explain why OP is such a bitch?

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>>46098274
Dwarven blood

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>>46092848
I hate her new voice, I hate her new design, she is not the oshi I used to know

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Because her model was a debuff model
Because she was the 'chinese' model in her generation, to appeal to the chinese audience
Because she then debuffed herself further because she attracted the 'cool girl' fags but wants to be 'cute' but is shit at it
Because she doesn't leech from Noel who is more popular
Because she is kind of dumb

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>>46092848
she likes lolis so i like her

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>>46098794
Oh and I guess also all the types of rando in Asia who would normally throw her a sub just for being in holo do not because they hate brown skin unironically.

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>>46092848
I blame her for not making 3rd gen the first one to get 1 mil for all.

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She's really weird
To be a holo elf you need to be somewhat crazy

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>>46092848
Super autism. She's a massive undertale fan, that says it all

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>>46097994
Only ESLs speaks in perfect english.
Burgers don't give a fuck about their own language and will butcher it every single time.

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>>46095673
They're not even comparable. Niji literally has 213 talents to Covers 75 (54 if you don't count the guys) and has 8M less subscriptions to their channels.

For Cover, with their 75 talents and 74.2M subs, that's 989,333 / talent.
For Niji with their 213 talents and 66.3M subs, that's 311,257 / talent.

Niji is just shotgunning as many mid level talents out as they can in the hopes that a few take off while Cover picks the best they can and supports them all.

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My mom's least favorite Holo, never seen her watching or sharing a moment of hers

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>>46099495
Is your mom single? Would you like a new dad?

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>>46097994
He failed to use punctuation.

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>>46097444
It's actually quite a good metric when not looked at through extreme one offs.

>>46097597
You really think people are out here going "Hmm, I can only support Gen 3, no other Gens and I have to select just one between them all to watch."? It doesn't matter how big the rest of her genmates are, she is an individual just like the rest of them.

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>>46092848
People think she’s a gyaru. She also doesn’t like interacting with eop since she has had cases where a few retards have asked her stuff like are you mixed race because she has a dark skin model

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>>46099352
some truth to this, I have a habit of messing around with sentence structure in particular

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>>46092848
design issues

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>>46092848
So you know how Kiara constantly debuffs herself in most retarded ways?
Flare is kinda like that but more while also caring about her depictions way more

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>>46092900
She hates sex, she wants to be cute kawaii.

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>>46100627
She hates being called cool. She's still sex incarnate, especially with redesigned costume and its FLARED thighs.

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>>46092848
She's a run-of-the-mill holo in the same generation with very exceptional holos

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>>46099352
>only speaks one language
>is shit at that language
Why are burgers like this?

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>>46099352
>write perfect english
>get called ESL
>write like a retard
>get called ESL
you just never win around here

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>>46092848
Because she is got very fussy for the most asinine things. She want to be looked as a cute uguu girl, instead of embrace the cool sex looking vibes of her desing.

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>>46096348
And that is incredible because Noel has on-screen meltdowns and that is not counting the ones of her rm

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>>46099477
>Cover picks the best they can
Says a lot about them when the "best" vtubers they can find are mediocre at best. They should start buying talents from other companies instead of wasting money on retarded projects.

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>>46100833
I wouldn't call Noel exceptional. The only thing Noel had going for her was ASMR, long playing hours back then were on the menu for everyone in sankisei

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone explain why Atelier, her best song, doesn't have an MV?

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>>46092848
Pekora and Marine are both amazing orators, good at comedic timing, etc, just lots of "mass" appeal. Rushia was GFE and screaming queen...

Flare was a bit more "directionless" initially and the early lizard-esque model really held her back.

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>>46099477
LOL Cover does not pick the best, or you wouldn't have stupid sluts like Kronii who think Ahoy is from One Piece, doesn't know Weather Hackers, etc.

Nor people like Ina who lie and dodge their fans for 3 months.

Or pure nepotism like Sana who literally fumbles the ball and "graduates" in disgrace.

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>>46103426
>Choosing an EN, and Council no less, to show that Cover doesn't pick the best
I'm not a Cover dick rider but c'mon anon that's cherry picking. If you isolate just the JP branch, then Cover's success rate is much higher. Even if you include IND and EN, their success rate is at least average to slightly above average

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>>46103962
I know that EN is way worse than JP, but it's not like Cover is ONLY JP, just like Niji sadly includes EN "talent" too(except the few I love, like Nina)

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>>46103962
>>46104033
Even if you say this, you have talents like La+ that literally pull worse Mori in regards to RM activity.
JP isn't infallable either.

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>>46104033
Yes, but when all three examples you pick are from EN, then don’t say “Cover”, say “HoloEN”. It looks disingenuous as fuck otherwise.

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>>46104129
I was never suggesting that Cover is infallible. I was saying that Cover's success rate is higher than most people on this board would like to admit. Yes, they have their stinkers (Choco comes to mind) but the successes far outweigh the misses. Also, yeah, what La+ did was pretty fucked but you can't deny that she has talent, and as such Cover chose her. Is it entirely Cover's fault that she'd go AWOL? No, they're only partially at fault for not wrangling her sooner.

[Anonymous No.]

Flare is cute cool. If OP could stop gargling dicks like a dumb catalogue fag maybe he could appreciate that she's doing fine and built a dedicated loving fanbase.

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>>46104033
Oh, well it was my personal bias in picking who I hate the most.

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>>46104127
Sorry meant to reply to you with >>46105910

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>>46095140
This revisionism where we pretend that Rushia wasn't/isn't a good streamer has started to grow tiresome.

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>>46092900
Awooooooooga

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>>46105725
Flare wishes she was cute lol

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>>46092848
OG model was horrible frog/mantis face. Least entertaining of the bunch.
>>46106170
Rushia/Peko/Marine definitely the top 3 of Sankisei, then Noel and then Flare. All together are amazing but solo Flare isn't that great imo.

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>>46099802
no ESL will ever make dumbass mistakes like "could of" "would of" "should of" or confuse "their" with "they're" or "paid" with "payed"

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>>46103426
They pick people they think have "potential", or "talent". And yes, the english recruiting team doesn't seem to be on par with the japanese one, or mabye there just aren't many talented english streamers.

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>>46092848
She cripples herself at every opportunity.

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>>46102282
She has like 5 songs without an MV or anything.

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>>46092900
Half elf.

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>>46095457
Flare is a half elf, not a dark elf.

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>>46099625
She is mixed race.
Half elf, half human.

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>>46092848
>he's at it again
Kys retard

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>>46100627
>>46100726
Cool has a different meaning to the Japanese, it is used for the “cold” connotation. She doesn’t want to feel obligated to act cold, stoic and unemotional.

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Flare has her own niche and she has the biggest autism of sankisei. She's the brains behind shiraken, she's done a tremendous job at rebranding herself, and she's a dope.

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she's autistic in the bad way and will spend an hour lecturing chat on the correct nuggie consuming temperature she must be depicted as consuming nuggies at

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>>46105119
This. Being talented, gifted or a genius doesn't automatically mean one has good ethics, social aptitude or, you know, just plain like pleasing their fans.
Lapuchan's case though is easily remedied by correction T u T

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>>46092848
She snacks on dried seaweed.

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>>46093601
I'd also argue she plays against type which can only be blamed on her so much and some fault lies on Cover for assigning her a Elf onee-san model. Everything screams for her to play a cool and seductive archetype but she prefers dorky and cute.

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>>46113189
there are tons of holomems who play against their type and are successful

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>>46097914
This is sad to read

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>>46093601
She is a very weird woman indeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>she is such a shitter
>no examples
so she isn't one
NEXT THREAD

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>>46092848
Because Flare likes to spam shit game. She should spam good games like Minecraft and do more collaborations with other holomems

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>>46113390
True but the same could be said for alot of items on the list I replied to. Doesn't make any of them less valid. Its the collective sum of these things.

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>>46092848
She cares more about good content that numbers. She doesn't care about popularity as much as she cares about being genuine and having a good relationship with her audience.

Numberfags are such retards.

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>>46093601
Almost none of that is true. She's not passive aggressive either, she's extremely genuine and forthright with her thoughts.

I think the only reason you think Elfriends are a secretive bunch is because we like to keep the retards away.

>>46097177
this, only without being a dick about like Ame. Flare is someone you either enjoy or you don't and she doesn't twist and turn herself into something fake just to viewhore. It's why her fanbase is so loyal and gives her so much money. We come to Flare for a genuine experience, not fake, confected GFE/kayfabe.

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>>46113189
Nah, Flare is cool rather than cute

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YouTube is racist. All black chuubas are debuffed. Flare is actually the most popular one.

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>>46117945
We are in 2023. she threw that out long ago

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>>46113189
I would say Cover is completely at fault since they don't give the hololive talents any creative control over their model or default outfit. Flare definitely hated the skimpy outfit and didn't have any interest in playing the role of sexy waifu. It's easy to see that Ina and Kronii have that same problem.

>>46113390
A coomer bait model is a debuff for a vtuber that wants a general audience. Most people expect the appearance of the vtuber to reflect the type of content they will make. There was good reason that Flare fought to get a redesign.

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>>46102263
Noel has exceptional tits that make me ejaculate exceptional amounts of cum

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>>46092848
>doesn't pander too coomers like Noel and Marine
>doesn't pander to children like Pekora
Flare is a holo for men and those are less numerous on the internet.

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>>46092848
Somehow more shizo than Noel. And Noel is on meds mind you.

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>>46122352
Botan, Towa, Mio etc all have sexier models and each plays to normie audiences, keep grasping

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>>46092848
If she wanted to be popular she should have gone full on dark elf.

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>>46092848
The best thing I can think of is that Sankisei are full of colorful characters.

Pekora have the crazy rabbit. Marine is the lewd pirate. Noel is that big-boobed nee-san. And Rushia (RIP) is the yandere girlfriend.

Meanwhile, the best I can describe her is…. The half-dark elf girl that wants to wear frilly thing? And the kinda-serious one? Idk, she’s definitely intended to be the cool onee-sans of the group, paired with noel, but she goes out of her way to rebel against that. Even with shiraken, I can’t descibe her personality much other than “she wanted to be cutey cute girl…”. Kinda hard to root for Internet personality that I cannot describe.

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>>46092848
She constantly sabotages herself.

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>>46092848
>One of the strongest singers in Hololive
>Wastes her skills on doing almost exclusively standard J-pop covers and original songs.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Flare was one of the top 25 vtubers in the world last year and anybody who argues with this fact is a damn dirty dwarf

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>>46128103
I know her as the ikemen harem protag that every Holo would go gay for.
That and arson. Bitch loves arson.

[Anonymous No.]

Flare is extremely passive agressive, she basically has a western liberal mind, a bad one at that, she can be good but she is outright lost it these days

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>>46130864
HOW THE FUCK DID KOYO DO 600 STREAMS

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>>46092848
She's mad they matched her irl color with her model.

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>>46104129
What'd lapchan do?

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>>46127137
Those are odd examples to use when the upper part of their outfits are fairly modest which is the only thing viewers see during normal streams. A hololive talent can't do much about a boob window unless they hide the model behind a prop. I would say that even management partly agreed with Flare since they removed the boob window and added shorts to her 3D model.

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>>46092848
i will not support the aum shinrikyo

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>>46133931
Mayonnaise is calorie dense and provides a lot of energy

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>>46102263
You clearly an EOP.
Noel is the best at zatsudans in Hololive. There's zatsudan specialists and there's Noel who could honestly just go on for a life time, no matter where you come from, your gender or age Noel pretty much can entretain someone with a conversation about literally anything, if it wasn't because she's a nervous mess she would idealy be on her way to TV because not even people there can match her at times

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>>46102263
t. retarded EOP who thinks Marine is good.

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>>46092848
>971k
>Literally 1100%x more subs than most Indie vtubers will ever see
You numberfags need to be banned posting outside of your containment thread.

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>>46134569
...What's the connection?

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>>46128058
If she did just get a little bit in character this could work out really well.

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>>46093815
don't talk about your mother like that anon

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>>46136647
https://streamable.com/m99tf2

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>>46135759
>Noel is the best at zatsudans in Hololive.
Alright, I see this thrown around a lot, how exactly do you define "best at zatsudans"? Nothing against Noel at all fwiw, just curious what this constitutes. If it's just the ability to talk about things, that doesn't seem that impressive, as their are other holo's who can talk about, and relate to, a ton of things.