/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

[Anonymous No.]

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as countries interacting with each other through means peaceful and militant alike!

We're STILL so Back Edition

Previous thread: >>45630602

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

Introductory document for new anons:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-intro

CURRENT GOALS:
- Survive
- Explore

>Note that the map is set in stone.
>Casual Stories or Greentexts of your general in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Ignore any trolls, falseflaggers or dramafags. Report, hide and move on.
>Try to keep hornyposting, socposting and funposting to the absolute minimum until we hit the bump limit.
>Please think twice before posting if you're intoxicated or feeling moody.

THREAD REP TRIPCODES:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-rep-trips

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents:
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems:
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-climate
Tectonic Plates and their Movements:
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces:
https://rentry.org/ztaf99
Minerals:
https://rentry.org/Minerals-Ores-VTWBG

CURRENT MAGIC SYSTEM:
https://rentry.org/chuubanite

FLAG POSTS:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-flags

VITUBIA ARCHIVE:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit

SPACE ARCHIVE:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ukyK3_sidebA_kLuH8i1I6TuVyFkWeJSYvyhqT6FMRU/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.]

Real previous thread: >>45794683

Anchor post for any story/map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes. Please mark and tag the section you want the relevant content to be archived. Unmarked posts will not be archived.
Anchored posts in the last thread will be archived within a day after the thread has been archived. You may also ask for your own archive posts to be updated or organized according to your standards.
- - -
If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>https://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated/missing lore in OP.
- - -
/VTWBG/ HISTORY
Anchor post for events in the /vtwbg/ canon timeline.
Reply to this post or commentate directly in the sheet suggestions for events to add to the timeline.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18-HH-xmC_qxOS3ZV0Ssxzb1mDA0xVKv31yMDLWo_pEo/edit

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/votevtwbg1-27to1-29
Aggregated Past Vote Results:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-votez
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-bylaws
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

[Anonymous No.]

CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-prompts

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LORE CATCH UP:
Last thread's new lore/discussion you might have missed:

>Anchisukiru:
>>45796710 (Anchisukiru preview)
>>45858751 (Anchisukiru story known as «Tongue Acid»)

>Lord of the Seas
>>45845671 (Half of Chapter 4)

>Great Siege:
>>45916252 (Great Siege, Origins)
>>45919749 (Great Siege, Imperial Plan and OOB)
>>45987218 (Great Siege, HoloID Coalition Plan)
>>46044467 (Great Siege, HoloID Coalition OOB)

>Morinium:
>>45806141 (Morinium update)
>>45988312 (Morinium update with cool pictures)

>Retro Reich:
>>45856532 (Retrian Fleet update)
[
spoiler]thought this would help everyone better with the amount of lore posted.[/spoiler]
Reply to this post to be included in the next thread's lore catchup.

[Anonymous No.]

SPACE ANCHOR
Space here!

If you'd like to contribute to the space AU, you can get started by skimming this page: https://rentry.org/cvt40k-start-how

Lore Archive:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ukyK3_sidebA_kLuH8i1I6TuVyFkWeJSYvyhqT6FMRU/edit?usp=sharing

Stellar Objects:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FIoW2jXshYn5FD2b5g7IJX4MILYFOI9hRboE-dAyjtg/edit?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.]

I think we need to try to combine the space anchor with something else, whether it be revert it to the OP or putting it with the lore anchor (my personal preference). 4 anchors is too many imo...

[Anonymous No.]

>>46046353
Makes sense baker-san, I do appreciate the organization of the lore update like that.

[Anonymous No.]

ABANDON SCIENCE HAVE SEX WITH SQUIRRELS
ABANDON SCIENCE HAVE SEX WITH SQUIRRELS
ABANDON SCIENCE HAVE SEX WITH SQUIRRELS
ABANDON SCIENCE HAVE SEX WITH SQUIRRELS
ABANDON SCIENCE HAVE SEX WITH SQUIRRELS

[Anonymous No.]

VTWBGG WebGame Anchor

http://vtwbgg.mooo.com:9069/

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VTWBGG is a web-based civilization sim currently in development. This anchor is for:
- New Country requests
- Feedback
- Gameplay suggestions/ideas
- Sharing Trade Codes
- (Maybe posting trade offers in the future)

Current TODO:
- Enable sending trade offers
- Decrease stored resources based on attrition rates to simulate "resource use"
- Decrease happiness based on active working populace
- Increase happiness based on stored item types

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047014
For testing purposes, this is my (dev) trade code:
MSBkR2hsY205dmRHRmtiV2x1

[Anonymous No.]

lets just get 20 anchors, why not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047058
Ahoy

[Anonymous No.]

I made a quick and simple timeline of Yubicraft's lore, hopefully it helps in the rare case someone decides to write anything tangentially related to /ybc/.

For explanations on what the Era changing events are, you can read the /ybc/ lore rentry on the archive

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047117
Looks nice!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047117
This looks really clean, what'd you use?

[Anonymous No.]

Can we play as the squirrels yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46046180
>[
>spoiler]thought this would help everyone better with the amount of lore posted.[/spoiler
Idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047014
does registration not work? it doesn't go to the mail?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047450
Registration works, but you can only register under existing countries.

>>46047248
I can add "risu" and put "Nuts" as a resource node?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047528
ohh, can nations have unique resources?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047155
Thanks!
>>46047196
Graphic Design is my passion, so I used Canva

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047569
Yes, but not at the moment. Though if I added "Nuts" first, then made a new country, that new country would be the only one with "Nuts" because they didnt exist before.

Once trading is implemented I'll make another post about seeding each country with a few resources only they can have, but I wanna make sure most of the base countries are added first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047014
add rose, nasfaq, lazulight, mep, moon, rumina, hoshiyomia, v7 and mhm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047670
What exactly is the difference between each country right now and how does storage work???

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047528
desu, nuts as a resource would be an issue because they basically have no value to anyone outside of risu itself, but if they are a unique resource, suddenly they have a ton of value.

overall, not sure unique resources is a good idea at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047670
if /vrt/ where to be added i would be interested in a "relic" resource since that would be thematic to the nations if that would make sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047014
Add rrat, luna, towa, wah, wawa, sakuran, mans, vrt and lig please.

Also, I don't know how feasible it is, but while the page loads on phone, I can't switch to different tabs to allocate people to resources or send trade codes. Would be nice to be able to play this on the go.

[Anonymous No.]

Btw Sapling, I'll be making a hydrology map of /nasa/ tonight so that another anon can place down some resources for us, you want me to do yours while I'm at it as well? It would be done on the height map I posted a while ago(and a part of it last thread)

[Anonymous No.]

can anyone by chance tell me what the naming scheme for /aeg/ was? i am not certain and don't want to get it wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>46049469
Diastima (for the /aeg/ era)

[Anonymous No.]

>>46049554
not the name of the nation but the overall naming scheme

[Anonymous No.]

>>46049891
Greek.

[Anonymous No.]

also does anyone by chance remember the name for /pcclg/? trying to find the correct name amongst Megas writing is giving me a headache to be quite honest

[Anonymous No.]

>>46051611
Ayakkayoli

[Anonymous No.]

>>46051672
wasn't that the old name for /aeg/?

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>46051694
no, /aeg/ was never called that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46045867
https://rentry.org/Louis-d-Avranches-Act-Bergazeet

Introducing the next part of the story, set during the Great Siege. Tell me how you like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46046353
I think it's okay like this, since it's a different google doc. Helps clarify where it should be archived in cases that might be ambiguous for the archiveanon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46053915
it is literily called that in this map: https://files.catbox.moe/t2u2ey.png

and as an example in lore: https://rentry.org/icsyc

[Anonymous No.]

>>46055165
You do realize that came before the new aeg rep came in and changed it right? Ask yourself why it was still called that, and its obvious that it was because there was no rep to state what the actual post-/pcclg/ name was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46055615
https://rentry.org/A-Dying-Nation
The lore for the nation literally says
>A Dying Nation: The Diastima Empire

[Anonymous No.]

>>46055615
yes, he changed the name for /aeg/ from Ayakkayoli to Diastima

here is when that happened: >>/vt/thread/S32555370#p32584142

but that would still be the empire AFTER /pcclg/ and not when it was still one big nation

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>>46056304
>still be the empire
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047014
Dev God, is there anyway in particular you'd like us to organize ideas that we might have that could help you out? I'm sure everyone has their own list of concepts that they envision but whether or not those can actually work is something that you'd have to figure out.

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>>46056370
/aeg/, or more presice /clg/, and /pcg/ used to be one thread called /pcclg/ and the vibuian lore is written as such that both the Empire of Syndeoneia and the Empire of Diastima used to be one big Empire together, problem is that it never was mention by Sol or aegbro but only in the odl stuff megas wrote, and that is honestly a mess to read for someone like me who is not a language crack or history crack

[Anonymous No.]

>>46056792
>language crack or history crack
I think the general consensus even among those people that his lore is a total mess regardless and hard to read.

[Anonymous No.]

Slice bread dogs. Toast bread dogs. Butter up bread dogs. Grill cheese sandwiches with bread dogs. Crumble bread dogs into bread crumbs. Soak bread dogs in syrup and raisins into bread pudding. Fry egg-soaked bread dogs then bake into French toast.

[Anonymous No.]

why is every nation in the souther Corpo-Liberal continent named some long name starting with A

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>46059266
Yes, those are all standard breaddog recipes. My favorite has to be the maple sirup one.

[Anonymous No.]

Feed bread dogs. Pat bread dogs. Care for bread dogs. Love and fluff bread dogs. Tell bread dogs they're good boys. Play frisbee with bread dogs. Carry and hug bread dogs. Protect bread dogs. Give all love to bread dogs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46060013
All this is necessary to create the best tasting bread dogs. You don't want them to go stale. Its like Highland cows.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe in sword and sorcery Vitubia bread dogs are magical constructs created from enchanting bread dough. I digress. As long as you have the frame and the correct bread dog dough you can bake more bread dogs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46060392
You LEAVE bread dogs alone, meatman! Bread dogs are for loving and cuddles! Not eating!

[Anonymous No.]

>>46060912
Your lore reps. You don't eat the whole bread dog. Bread dogs are cyborgs with bread bodies. As long as you have the endoskeleton you can bake more. Bread dogs should be eaten once a month before they get too stale. And you're talking to me the bread dog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46061296
I still need to read up on lore, yeah... still, I get a little panicky about bread dogs because they're just too cute to be eaten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46046945
Has the shitposting come back?

[Anonymous No.]

Stories aren't lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46061547
Oh you sweet sweet summer child. Allow me to quote one of the functions from their rentry.
>Also bread dogs are natural punching bags. You can kick and punch them as much as you want and they won't break thanks to "kneading dough" technology.

[Anonymous No.]

Uuuuuu I miss the /meat/ anons!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047719
Done.

>>46048215
Done.
>I can't switch to different tabs
Done. (I'll try to keep an eye out for mobile stuff going forward, thanks for the report)

>>46056692
Good question. Most everything breaks down into 3 things: Frontend, Backend, and Balance
If you have a new idea, split it into these categories by stating:
- Balance: How does it affect the balance of the game, and what math or algorithm involved are you proposing. If you want a new buff or debuff or status effect, consider what calculations need to go into it. Is it affected by population size? Resources available? Resources stored?
- Backend: This is mostly on me, unless someone here is really up-to-date on how databases and ORMs work, but essentially, think about how things are stored as excel sheets. If the addition youre proposing involves a whole new excel sheet for storing the data, try to describe it as best as possible in one go because its a PITA to change later.
- Frontend: This is the UI. If your idea involves showing a whole new page or set of information to people, try to come up with a mock example of how it should look and what each button should do.

>>46047752
Every Country starts out from the same template, so countries will really only change when/if the people managing the cities within change.
>Storage
You assign parts of your populace to work resource nodes. The server will do some back depending on the resource node richness and the happiness of your population and store that amount of resource in your stores.

>>46047973
See what this >>46047937 anon said about unique resources. Theres certainly a discussion to be had about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46065392
Maybe there could be a more generalized "Magical Product" resource that could used to represent cases like the /vrt/ relic? If I'm properly interpreting "relic" as old objects that have been magically reinforced with /vrt/ craftmanship. That could represent stuff like /ringo/ piss, /luna/ candifying equipment, /morig/ magic diamonds.
We could also add unique resources for all of those, but I don't know what effects so many unique resources would have. I guess it depends on how abstracted the use of all the resources is.
Though regarding nuts I feel like they'd be neither unique nor worthless. Nuts are a useful trade commodity, like other foods that keep relatively well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46065392
hmm i somehow don't seem able to login

[Anonymous No.]

>>46065392
based age of mythology

[Anonymous No.]

>>46065894
>a more generalized "Magical Product" resource
Thats on the roadmap. Essentially once a Governance moves out of the Settlement level, they'll be able to research tech and unlock production of new resources that use existing from their stores to make "Processed Resources". That way it will be possible to convert things Commodities into Luxuries, etc.

>>46065938
Not to sound like the "did you turn it off and on again" tech guy, but did you activate your account by clicking the link in the email?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46066054
age of mycology

[Anonymous No.]

>>46066254
Yeah, that makes sense. So I guess in this case, the gameplay mechanic would be that you gather a "chuubanite" unprocessed resource and convert it to a "magical product" processed resource, and this represents /vrt/ infusing chuubanite into old equipment etc?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46066534
Yeah, that's the plan at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>46066254
... ahh yes the email, you know the email? the no one, i always click the link in the email and without the email

[Anonymous No.]

>>46067488
AWAY I throw to the spam folder! AWAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>46067534
This! This here, the EAR of the email...

[Anonymous No.]

>>46067966
cause i don't click it. and then i click the link site email. okay? you understand? understandable! email! yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46047014
>>46067488
>>46067534
Proposal to make this the built in response when asking for email verification help

[Anonymous No.]

>>46069007
I'm adding it to the verification email for sure

[Anonymous No.]

Other than shopping tomorrow I'm not cooking dinner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46071672
I meant to clarify. I should have have tomorrow evening free to clean up /nasa/ lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46072774
What do you need to clean up???

[Anonymous No.]

>>46074326
he needs to update the part about kinky, unadulterated sex with bread dogs.

[Anonymous No.]

bread dogs? more like bred dogs
Hooman women will get addicted to that pretzel dong

[Anonymous No.]

>>46074425
>>46074524
Yeast infection speedrun any percent

[Anonymous No.]

>>46074524
The insides are soft, warm and pillowy. The outside is a hard, textured, stimulating surface. It's no wonder.
Bread dog... Here's your peanut butter. You just know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46072774
Getting our schedules to align is gonna be a pain, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46075751
Yep. CDT is the worst timezone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46074651
https://youtu.be/XKMJDQBTZv0

[Anonymous No.]

>>46074651
Sex with Bread Dog?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46077686
Are you a white woman or Hoowoman?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46076966
>>46077686
>>46074651
>>46074524
Get the flamethrower.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46065392
From a balance perspective I agree with the squirrel. Having unique resources for each civ is going to be a pain to balance once people start trying to min-max stuff and an economy forms. Although I love my mushrooms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46079393
One nation wouldn't have just one resource to export. Its not just resources that are exported. Art, ideas, and culture get exported as well. And sometimes diseases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46079393
>>46065392
Possibly, resources could be given an origin tag? So each Resource would have two variables: origin, nature. You could have /mep/ wine be differentiated from /morig/ wine, or /pcg/ mushrooms be differentiated from other mushrooms. This would add uniqueness without adding arbitrary new resource types.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46079539
Diseases? Time to brush up on my Fungal Pathology handbooks and cook up something nasty.
>>46079628
I don't know if that would be hard to code for Dev-san but also I feel as though having the same resource perform differently based on who it comes from is bound to lead to conflict. Although if people can keep their act together that would be a cool feature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46076966
anon is a faggot for not thinking about this one instead.
https://youtu.be/eRBOgtp0Hac

[Anonymous No.]

>>46079817
Not sure what the gameplay loop is going to be, but conflict between the players might be an expected and desirable part of gameplay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46079393
>Having unique resources for each civ is going to be a pain to balance
I mostly agree. Though what I do want to do is rather than give countries resources specific to them, I want to give certain countries an abundance of certain resources. /uuu/ would obviously have more lumber, /who/ might have more metal, etc etc.

>>46079628
>origin tag
>>46079817
It wouldnt be difficult to code per-se, but it would be a pain to track. I don't think its particularly worth it, and hopefully the "processed goods" mechanic will fill that niche in the future as certain countries or colonies specialize their productions.

>>46081251
I'm hoping so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46081116
But there was no jelly. Just peanut butter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46065392
>I'll try to keep an eye out for mobile stuff going forward, thanks for the report
I'll keep checking for stuff as you develop it in case I catch anything else. Also, because I haven't yet, I fucking kneel to you, anon. You did more with the premise of this project in a week than all of us combined did in a year. Keep it up, bro!

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>>46082940
The dickriding is insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>46082940
This might be the dumbest post ever made in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46081991
>just peanut butter
holy fucking based. jelly is gross

[Anonymous No.]

>>46083317
>>46083372
If anons deserve to have their dick sucked for a new chapter in a story that's been going on for months, then this boy does as well. So please, anons, if you want to experience the same pleasure, go write something :)

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>>46081753
>It wouldnt be difficult to code per-se, but it would be a pain to track.
True, or to visualize even, imagine having wood from 40 countries, you'd have to make those stellaris pie charts kek.

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>>46083535
correct, stories aren't lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46083414
Jam's good if its made from preserves, which has fruit pulp. I love me some good marmalade.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to get fucked by a deadbeat
t. Breaddog

[Anonymous No.]

>>46054094
This was a really cute scene anon. Looking forward to more.

[Anonymous No.]

Dev blog for today

Overall a bunch of crap on the backend, so nothing too big for users, sorry guys. I'm trying to keep the code clean so I dont end up painting myself into a corner. In light of that, a few things needed to be cleaned up and organized.

Changes:
- Added a bunch of new countries
- Navbar works on mobile now
- Some font and css class changes
- Several UI changes for the administration page. Should make it easier to troubleshoot and fix issues in the future.
- Entertainment nodes are now default for new users
- Created several scripts for fixing database and editing the database
- "Management" is now a drop down. Paving the way for more management pages instead of just resources.

Roadmap:
- Decrease storage values to simulate use
- Increase happiness based on unassigned workers
- Trading!

I also need some help from you lot for something, will make another post about that later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46082940
Thanks anon. I cant write words as well as most of you, but if I can contribute by writing code instead, I will.

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>>46087069
I'm curious anon, since your website is not on https. What are you hosting it on? If it's hosted on your machine, not using the secured protocol might open up some vulnerabilities on your end. Either way, you might also consider running the server through a CloudFlare layer, their encryption and ddos-protection service are surprisingly both free and anonymity-friendly.
Good progress!

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>>46048873
Hey, anon! Sorry, I get around to scrolling up to read the thread until now. If you can make the map thatd be awesome. Do you need any input from me?
From what I remember sketching out before, /uuu/ was gonna have some rivers coming in from /who/ like something resembling picrel, but Im perfectly willing to yield to your expertise in the matter as to what would make the most sense.

Btw, can rivers end in-land? like just go into the earth or something? I think it'd be really cool to have a river that just ends inside Fauna's Cradle (would make for some nice river-style funerals for saplings), but if its too far-fetched, its whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck we're actually having a vidya?
What about asking /nasfaqg/ for help? They got experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>46088347
Its hosted on a VPS with most of the ports locked down. HTTPS is on the TODO, but I've been too lazy to go through the whole cert signing process for now.
Will look into the free tier for cloudflare though, didnt know they had unpaid options, thanks for the tip!

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>>46088649
NTA, but I'm a bit of a hydrologyfag. Would you be willing to have a system of subterranean caves under Fauna's cradle? Basically, you could have rivers that terminate in the cradle, their water permeates through the earth to those caves, and that outflow ends up flowing lower in the water table without any outflows visible from the surface. This is called karst topography, often happens if there's limestone in your geology.
Other options are to have a salt lake, which is probably not ideal for Fauna, or to have the water be teleported somewhere else with a portal. Which could be cool too desu. The water just wants to end up somewhere.
>>46090583
Kek yeah certs are a hassle. Feel free to drop any questions about CloudFlare here, I've gone through that setup and it wasn't effortless, but it does make the platform a lot more robust.
>>46090168
Apparently Honk has been MIA recently.

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>>46083414
A small boy sat at the table with a frown,
A sandwich in front of him, brown and round.
It was peanut butter and jelly, a classic treat,
But the thought of the jelly made him feel defeat.

He thought it was slimy, it didn't taste right,
He preferred other foods, like crackers and sprite.
He'd try to eat it, but the taste was too much,
He'd rather have something he enjoyed, like a chocolate bar or such.

His mom would say, "But jelly's so sweet!"
But he'd shake his head and refuse to eat.
It was a battle that happened every day,
But he just couldn't stomach the jelly in any way.

Maybe one day he'll change his mind,
And the sandwich won't be left behind.
But for now, he'll stick to his picky ways,
And find other foods to fill his hungry days.

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>>46090168
/nasfaqg/ main dev is MIA, and even with that, it got plenty of issues on its own.

[Anonymous No.]

In the vein of my question to Deadbeat; how does geography/location relative to your capital affect the traditions and religious beliefs of your people? Is it as big as separate sects or as small as minor differences in ceremony and language.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking shitty ISP... CLEAR!!!

[Anonymous No.]

Come on- CLEAR

[Anonymous No.]

>>46095637
Iirc there's a marked contrast in that regard in /ggg/, with the submarine settlements being more fundamentalist towards Gura worship while shallower water chumbuds have more religious leeway.

[Anonymous No.]

Cute shrimp girls are for hugging.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

*hic* CLEAR

[Anonymous No.]

>>46054094
I just love the father and son dynamic, nice work anon.

[Anonymous No.]

*hic* Fucking hiccups- *hic* CLEAR

[Anonymous No.]

Hiccups CLEAR

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>>46088649
Just like with /who/, it's up to your preference on basically everything. I did already make the height map that somewhat follows the old heights (with some liberties taken here and there as the scales are different) and the hydrology would be based on it. Didn't get to work on it yet because like usual, monhun with friends got in the way, but I should be free today. Attached is the png file with your border as well as /who/, so you have some reference on where the rivers flow there. If you have any wishes for the main rivers, don't hesitate to tell me.

Also, as the other anon mentioned, while there are exceptions, usually rivers will end at the sea.

https://files.catbox.moe/tuqymo.png

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>>46095637
while the capital is in the east because thats where onobots initially crashed, it has more to do with the way the Retro Reich expanded from the eastcoast towards the west.

the culture and the nations desire for craftsmanship and love for old relics is the strongest on the eastcoast and northcoast and the further you go south or west the weaker it becomes

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>>46108832 me
Oh, should also mention that despite looking kinda flat compared to /who/ and hoshi, you still can have some hills, big or small, as each layer is 200m of elevation. Needed to mention that, since I forgot to add the fucking legend to this specific png.

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>>46108832 still me
Another thing to consider if you want some exotic hydrology are intermittent lakes. Nothing more wacky than the area you traveled through not a month prior now being a lake.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Intermittent_lakes

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Hi guys, looking for some creative help with the website.
Right now picrel is all there is in the world. Could some of you come up with more things for each category? (Or maybe one or two more categories?)

NOTE: These are RAW resources. There will be mechanics later for processing resources into other materials, so these have to be BASE level things. Also, if you could format your posts with proposals like this:
ThingA
ThingB
ThingC
instead of:
ThingA, ThingB, ThingC
That'd be appreciated. Thanks!

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>>46133617
Can do but before that, could these categories be defined in a more comprehensive way?
I can kind of understand Necessity as things that you get food from but would mushrooms really be one of those? Commodity and Luxury are also a little confusing

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>>46135333
My bad, should have clarified:
>Necessity
Flavor text: Things your population would need to survive, or mostly cant do without.
Mechanic: Without enough of this, your happiness will start draining.

>Commodity
Flavor text: Things your population can use to make their lives a little better.
Mechanic: Primary fodder for either production, or trade. No consequence on happiness.

>Luxury
Flavor text: Shiny or pretty shit. No logical reason for your population to want it, but humans are weird.
Mechanic: Sufficient amounts of this will increase happiness by just having it in storage.

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>>46136213
So with these definitions, might want to move silver down to a commodity(at least for /nasa/), or keep it on the back of your mind if in the future we get some tech trees, as it is used in printed circuits due to it's excellent conductivity, as well as stuff like solar panels.

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>>46137330
We will for sure have to rework things as we move forward. I'm keeping it simple for now, but I did leave all of these things as variables so we can change them in the future if needed.

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>>46133617
Necessity:
Rice
Horses
Potatoes
Oat
Coconuts
Fish
Bivalves
Crustaceans
Nuts
Corn
Barley
Plantain

Possibly rice, wheat and oat could be abstracted as "grains", and fish, biuvalves and crustaceans could be abstracted as "seafood".

Commodities:
Bamboo
Zinc
Tin
Whale Oil

Luxuries:
Platinum
Marble
Ambergris
Saffron
Vanilla
Cloves
Coffee
Sugarcane

Could possibly abstract the spices under "spices".
I gave a lot, feel free to only use the ones that make sense to you.

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>>46133617
>Necessity
Water

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>>46138711
I might shift some of these around, but its good stuff, thanks anon

>>46139276
Ok but... you really wanna be trading water?

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>>46139585
Some poor sucker out there in the middle of a desert might need it, who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ or if a disease contaminates a settlements water supply or something.

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>>46139956
>disease contaminates a settlements water supply
Hmmm... Ok, I like this idea...

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>>46139276
You're better off trading beer as an essential. Barreling up water is not a sanitary way of storing it as water will get swampy. In some areas drinking alcohol is better than drinking river water.

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>>46140090
>trading
That wouldn't even be the primary function as a necessity, would it? If those are used up to keep the happiness of your people up, water would be pretty gosh darn important, wouldn't you agree? You try living a life with only one cup of water a day for an extended period of time.

>>46140055
Why thank you, I do have some good ideas sometimes

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>>46047014
Big backend update just pushed.

>Attrition
Things in storage will slowly be "used". Each type of resource will be used up at different rates.

>Luxury buff
The more luxuries you have in storage, the more of this buff you will get

>Necessity debuff
If you are lacking in necessities, your happiness will drop.

>Why does happiness matter
The happier your people are, the more efficiently they will work. If you manage to reach 0 happiness, they will stop working altogether.

All of these happen "per tick". I run a tick about 3 times a day. I'll automate it to a more regular occurrence later.

I've set everyone's happiness to 75 to start with so hopefully if you havent been working any necessity nodes you will have some time to shift before your settlement goes to pot.

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>>46140387
I must have read wrong. Still beer in this age is easier to store and preserve than water. Most water is used to irrigate crops. And with how sanitation is you need to boil water before you can cook or drink it after its been stored for a while. Beer and ale you can drink straight from the barrel after its distilled. Also you should look int9 the history of grog in the navy. Also 90% alcohols have medicinal properties as early wound dressers. Also there are alcohol lamps that burn alcohol for light. I used to have one.

Water is essential. But don't sleep on alcohol either.

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>>46140677
Oh, regarding attrition, is there a visual indicator how much of a resource was removed on the previous tick, like a -x in red to the right of total resources or do we just have to keep note of it? Perhaps this could be nice for gaining resources as well.

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>>46142558
Histograms/line graphs, my beloved...

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>>46142558
>>46142640
Sadly, not for now, sorry

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>>46142855
Oki, just wanted to make sure.

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Mock up of the upcoming trading feature. For now, you will only be able to request things from others if they have those nodes. This is to prevent the trade transactions from being used to see what resources others have in storage.

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>>46046180
https://rentry.org/Great-Siege-d-Avranches-Strikes-First

D'Avranches strikes first and hard, but the outcome is not quite what he expected.

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>>46145706
The "number available" on the right is handy. That makes me think, eventually some kind of counter letting you know how many workers you are using would be nice qol, for the anons not so good at mental arithmetic.

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>>46148531
>counter letting you know how many workers you are using
In the resource management page? Or the trading page?

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>>46149148
Management, yeah. Last I looked there, I had to do a smidge of mental math to make sure I had assigned exactly 100 workers, it would be nice if there was a counter letting you know how many unassigned workers you have. Unless I'm misremembering?

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>>46149148
>>46149393
Quick mockup

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>>46146118
Nice work, anon

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>>46149393
>>46149847
Ah, yeah that makes sense, its gonna take some JS which I hate, but it should be simple enough.

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So how's everyone this evening?

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>>46153812
Observing the general dynamics of /vt/. In just the past two days, two color-oriented generals have appeared, /tan/ for delicious chocolate chuubas and /pink/ for pink women good.
What did /vt/ mean by this?

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>>46152676
Oof, JS hate. Good luck and thank you anon.

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>>46153962
Yellow woman the best.

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>>46153962
/vt/ is separating the coloured ones from the rest of the vtubers. What's the next step?

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>>46154811
No... Not the chococide...

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UI for trading is mostly done, just have to hook it up to the backend and add the few verifications for "does player A have enough resources, does player B have the storage for the incoming stuff" etc.
Should be done tomorrow. Really sorry I wasnt able to get it out today like I'd planned.

Last reminder to check your resource assignments, I'll be running another world tick in about 30 minutes.

Lastly, thanks for the support anons, its been fun working on this.

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>>46146118
How do you work so fast? Its incredible honestly!

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>>46153962
I think for me things are normalizing a bit. Currently I'm watching the budget. Everyone will have to sacrifice snacks from now own. Also no more pizza unless its home made or frozen. Even then prices are too high.

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>>46155657
Rice and beans, friend. Rice and beans.

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Rice and beans bump.

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BUTT

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>>46155192
Thanks for the hard work Dev-san. >>46155657
Eggs are also usually cheap protein, eggs rice/pasta and beans made up my diet for a long time... Turns out you can't make a living just doing mycology.

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Are there actually any writers for the corpo-liberal continent left?

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>>46170895
Im still around!!
I just lurk and dont post much because i am busy!!

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>>46170895
Retro is here. That's about it.

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>>46172240
anon, that is retro..

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what is the corpo-liberal continent anyways? "liberal" is a weird term to use in terms of geography.

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>>46171936
Ruminaanon is that you?
>>46172606
The liberal part is just to showcase the indie part of the continent, it is mostly just a placeholder term i use until people of the continent decide an official term and because i dislike the placeholder term that others use

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>>46172949
Yes!! How are you Retro??

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>>46172949
What nations are supposed to be there?

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>>46172949
why not just say corpo-indie then or call the north Indie and south Corpo? just curious.

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>>46172491
I refuse to believe it, that sentence did not have a single typo in it...

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>>46172999
ehh, doing so-so, but actually putting some finishing touches on something i am working on right now that i am really pleased with for the first time in forever, glad to see someone still around, hope you are doign fine too.

>>46173064
there could still be some around potentially like /jidf/ or /pcg/

>>46173164
i mean there isn't technicly a strict divide between who is on what half, /pkg/ for example is on the north while /pyon/ would be part of the south, at this point i jsut used this particular placeholder for so long than switchign would be a hassle mentally

>>46173522
i might have dyslexia but even i can get some short sentences right

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>>46174664
Been told /pcg/ rep pops in now and then so he can weigh in on this, haven't seen them. Although I took a long break so might have just missed them to be fair.

If they pop back in though I'll ask permission for a cappipalist micro nation to get shoved in a corner somewhere and write my IRA adventures as we fight for independence from the outsiders occupying our land.

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>>46175990
>outsiders occupying our land
That's not happening anymore to my knowledge.

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>>46152620
>>46155194
>>46085116
>>46104189
Thanks!!! no comment on how i do things at speed, everyone works at different speeds so idk.

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>>46178748
I really need to catch up on the lore then. Just re-read the lore docs when I came back for a refresher so I must have missed it.

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>>46181496
it has been a while but from what i last understood the whole occupation thing has been radicly been downgraded tho i think it is not entirely gone, how much of that has yet gotten into rentries i don't know, you would have to ask the /2434/ rep directly since i honestly doon't follow her stuff anymore since we have been on bad terms

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>>46181496
i cant remember what we did, but it is massively downscaled but I also doubt i will ever write over there anytime soon. i don't even think there is actual occupation of anything anymore or the economical stuff either.

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I really fucking miss ri2ner. Still have their vocaroo saved.

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>>46046180
https://rentry.org/Great-Siege-Lunesian-Zetan-Preparations
We're working on it, but we ain't as fast as the others on this. Still very much a WIP.

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>>46047014
Can you add Nenmen?

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>>46047014
Moon has two resources, aside from entertainment. Suggestion! Allow us to create multiple settlements to check for bugs and other stuff.

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>>46188635
yea we are slow as hell kek comparitively.

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>>46190136
>>46188635
Hey!! All that matters is you both do good work!!!! I will adjust my end as you go…

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Why is founder never here when the thread is doing good? Pretty sus.

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>>46155192
i think i broke your game, all verificatioon links now spout some nonsense and all my settlements sicne have been turnign into the capital of gambling and fun: Bot Vegas

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>>46192705
Wouldn't put it past the gnome that he was the schizo all along.

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>>46195275
He did start developing some weird fixation on Alice

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>>46195474
Lek

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>>46189365
Done.

>>46189937
This was almost an idea I was going to entertain (hah), until I saw what this >>46194914 anon did.

>>46194914
You made a bunch of accounts under the same country, the country ran out of resources and the only thing it had to give you was Entertainment nodes. I appreciate the QA test, but maybe ask next time? I cleaned it up, but I gotta push back the trading update to add the safeguards for this.

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>>46045867

The historic Legacy of a lost Nation:
https://rentry.org/aia6b

archive for /aeg/

i wanted to document and put into a rentry all the things aegbro and others like me had planned overall for the lore for /aeg/ before it all went to end so that at least there is some proof of it all, as well as the nation existing.

some notes:

Woozieporium is a company i wanted to create for the purpose of the whole /aeg/ and /aa+corpo/ interaction, i had mention it before but back then it didn't have a name so thsi si the first time i gave it a name.

Corpollum Akio is not a canon name for /aa+corpo/ in any capacity but i wanted something as a name besides just the thread name as to not break immersion so i gave it this placeholder name, should the thread ever get a proper name i will change this.

Diastima-Syndeoneia is the name i choose for /pcclg/ because i really cannot discern from megas writing what he initially named the old merge thread before both became their own.

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>>46196424
This was a wonderful read, retro. Good job, dude.

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>>46196424
Great work!!!! very well done and thorough. A proper send off for /aeg/!!!

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Can't believe I freaking forgot that youd also need to see the status of your outgoing trade offers...

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>>46196242
Gambare devanon... If there's anything I learned from nasfaq, it's that players will probably be trying to poke holes into whatever is going on to make number bigger.
Speaking of breaking stuff, if you believe the game might go through resets in the future as you implement new features and stuff (or perhaps if resets become a feature in themselves), it might be a good idea to let it be known, so there aren't ill-fated emotional attachments being created.
>>46196424
Good piece, I liked this bit of imagery "The puppeteer's hands had been halted."/

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>>46200843
>players will probably be trying to poke holes
This was fully expected. I'm just a bit sad that I'm having to push back a big update to fix this issue. Was bound to happen though.

>resets
I'd 100% let everyone know. I've been trying pretty hard to construct things so that I wont have to though, at least not for updates.

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>>46196242
Btw, just wanted to ask something regarding happiness. I have been trying to find a balance for it, and have slowly been decreasing the amount of people working with each tick(which you mentioned affects it iirc) and yet it keeps plummeting, and seemingly faster with less people assigned to work. It has come to the point where I am not producing enough essentials to break even yet the damn thing is still going down. Is this intended?

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>>46201196
That's my bad, I hadnt settled on the right formula for raising happiness based on job-less population, so I didnt implement that part yet. I'm assuming your happiness has been dropping because of lack of resources if thats the case. Go assign all your workers to nodes, and I'll find you in the database and give you a happiness boost for the next tick.

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>>46201726
Don't think it's the lack of resources, I spread them over pretty well I assume. Also don't worry about giving me a boost on the next tick, I know we are basically in early alpha rn and testing stuff, so I hold no attachment to anything and just enjoy being the tester and giving feedback and asking questions, specially if a reset might happen later when we have more features in.

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>>46201934
>spread them over
Not generally a good strat. Luxuries ONLY give buffs, and lack of Necessities ONLY give debuffs. So if youre starting out, you want to amass Necessities first, make sure thats good, then slowly transition to Luxuries.

.... this is starting to sound like we need a wiki...

>being the tester and giving feedback
Its very much appreciated. Developing this in a vacuum is gonna make it pretty weird.

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>>46047014
Nasfaq should be Nasfaqg

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>>46202939
Done.

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>>46093939
>>46092088
Trialdev is the main dev anyways

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Finally done with this GUI

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can I still get an invite to the discord or is it all private now

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>>46204892
Fuck off. We're full.

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>>46204892
Sure, here. He45f9h

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>>46047014
Proposals:

>1. Nation Clarity
There should be a way to see the settlements of the nation you are a part of.
Possibly the same for settlements within other nations too. Making visits or seeing what any particular settlement is doing should be up to the player to choose.
See: NASFAQ private vs public wallets. You can see all wallets on the leaderboard, and their net-worths, but there is an option to make your wallet private so that no one can see what coins or funds you are holding.
>2. Trade Clarity
There should be a way to see resources pouring in and out of a nation or a settlement, and where those resources are being moved. Not only would this make for very interesting reading, it would also help prevent the hypothetical case of someone making a bunch of accounts to make settlements inside other nations and just extracting all the stuff from there. Not a pressing issue right now, but for a "release" version it would be a good idea.
>3. Trade efficiency
Should internal trade within a nation be more efficient than trade that goes outside a nation?
>4. Resource Attrition
A simple "X unit of population needs access to Y necessities (Food) and Z entertainment" would be nice. For example, 1 population consumes 0.2 necessity(food) per cycle. As for entertainment, I would propose that instead of working pops generating unhappiness, working pops consume more entertainment per cycle.
>5. Resource balancing
I think that each settlement should have some access to more resources than just 3 nodes + entertainment, but that most of these should be "Poor", with the current 3 being guaranteed "Rich" or "Fair".
This would allow for someone to plausibly play the isolationist settlement route, although naturally it would be way less efficient than trading. It would also be more realistic; Even in a desert or an arctic icecap one can produce some food.
>6. Crops rework
Relating to >>46138711
Consider grouping crops into categories such as "Universal", "Tropical", "Temperate", and "Arctic". "Universal" would mean crops that can be grown pretty much everywhere (potatoes, for example), the other ones should be obvious.
Then, instead of giving a settlement a single crop as a resource, give them a few units of "Tropical/Temperate/Arctic Farmland" as resources. Let a player choose which of the crops available to their class of farmland they grow there. Richness of a "Farmland" would then naturally be a measure of how fertile the farmland of a settlement is. I do think that all settlements ought to have at least 1 unit of "Poor" farmland. Some settlements could then have more units of Farmland of various qualities.
Animals like cows could be included, this would just mean that in-universe your farmland is a pasture instead.

Questions:
>1.
I would like to know how resources are decided on a nation level basis.

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>>46204892
https://discord.gg/fJ9DepEN
here.

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>>46140677
Oh also, my happiness started at 50

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>>46205592
>>46205759
i missed the invite give me another one

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>>46208748
the one i sent has 5 uses, you can use it.

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>>46208817
it doesnt work

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>>46208894
https://discord.gg/FD4mmEVh
try again. I messed it up.

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>>46208952
this is not the og cord :/

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>>46209193
well maybe they can invite you :/

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>>46209193
The 2nd link has 3 more uses on it if you want in :)

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>>46209778
unnable to accept invite

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>>46209589
https://discord.gg/GFHkZap9
Here. ill take my leave.

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>>46210178
A few people joined so probably ran out.
>>46205705
As for Resource attrition and stuff like that while I would like it to be publicised so it's easy, if Dev doesn't want to we can just make a wiki and work it out ourselves anyways.

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>>46210379
>t.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
who could have guessed making trades and bank-like transactions was going to be an involved process..........

BETA TRADING UPDATE IS UP.

You will trade other people's trade codes for it to work (Mine is up near the anchor if you want to test). You can only send a max of 5 trade requests.
I'm SURE there will be bugs and issues, and I apologize ahead of time. I'll try to make a longer post about this later, but Im pretty tired rn.

>>46205705
Lots of great points, will reply in another post.

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>>46213626
Thank you for your hard work devgod

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>>46213626
devlove!
I've got a trade up without the option to accept it, only view, but enjoy your sleep, this is good progress.

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>>46214026
The difference a missing pair of () can make... Fixed.

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Woops, for a second there you could accept a trade multiple times. Fixed.

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>>46214832
"Vitubia Simulator is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits!"

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>>46205705
>1. Nation Clarity
So the whole privacy/isolation thing is mostly handled by the trade codes. If someone wants to put themselves out in the world, they can just share their code.
As far as involuntary visits: the idea is on the table. Sending scouts or spies out to other nations is something I'd like to work in at some point.

>2. Trade Clarity
See above about spies, but I'm not sure about a full public ledger. If people want to advertise their trades here on the board or something, thats up to them, but I think it adds to the social aspect of the game to be able to keep trades secret or under the table.

>3. Trade efficiency
Oooooh, I do like this idea. I was planning on implementing something like it later by allowing the largest city in a country to impose import and export taxes, but maybe having a small scale version of it would be interesting too. Noted.

>4. Resource Attrition
This is already sort of setup. Happiness numbers from resources are based on population. Attrition isnt tied to pop because of how the database is set up, and because pop is mostly static right now. Could be worked on in the future though.

>5. Resource balancing
Next "big" update is going to add a "Quest" system, and a "Rewards" system (names are WIP). These will let you buy access to new resource nodes.

>6. Crops rework
This... would be a big update... I'll make note of it though, I like the idea.

>I would like to know how resources are decided on a nation level basis.
Right now its a random sample from the existing list. Will be reworked later to add weights to the sample so each country is different (big reason I asked for the list of resource ideas).

>>46210483
>if Dev doesn't want to
I'm not really trying to hide anything, I'm gonna open source this whole thing eventually anyway, but would it really be any fun if you turned the whole thing into a math problem? I know some people are into that sort of game, when the game is fleshed out, but this one is so early in its dev stage it'll turn into an excel spreadsheet if you so much as mention algebra in its general direction.
>we can just make a wiki and work it out ourselves anyways
I mean, that'd be neat regardless tbdesu

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Food poisoned bump...

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>>46217681
https://vtwbgg.fandom.com/wiki/Vtuber_World_Building_General_Game_Wiki
Created a wiki page but haven't added anything to it as of yet. It is able to be edited publicly without logging in but it will send me your IP so use a VPN.

If anyone has suggestions of what should be added to the wiki feel free to send them through and I'll make a to-do list. If the page gets griefed I'll just do a rollback, also if you want admin perms Dev just make an account and reach out to me.

>>46221037
Hope your stummy gets better anon.

[Anonymous No.]

All these new developments but Founderchama still ignores us...

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>>46221702
Feel like its a little odd to have a vtwbgg wiki but nota a vtwbg wiki although that would probably make the thread a little redundant.

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>>46221702
I'm mostly over indigestion. Though I caught a 24 hour bug on top of it.

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>>46222040
Founderchama is dead. Founderchama wemains dead. And we have kiwwed him. How shaww we comfowt ouwsewves, the mwuwdewews of aww mwuwdewews??

>>46222646
Would be easy for people to copy-paste lore into a wiki and would be reasonably good with cross-linking articles etc. but don't wanna touch on that. Think I should leave that sorta stuff to ArchiveAnon and the bigger contributors, considering I'm a tiny part of this.

>>46222804
Ginger, sleep and lots of water. Stay hydrated Anon.

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Ok, I added a sum calculator in the resources page for any math-impaired anons. I'll try to remember to make a full dev-blog style thing detailing the trading update tomorrow.

>>46221702
Yooooo, thats pretty cool anon!

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>>46192705
>>46222040
>>46224369
Im still here you bozos!! i posted and bumped several times in the threads!
>>46164065 was even me
I dont put on the trip all the time because im not an idiot (most of the times). Im really enjoying the new developments! like the game site, the morinium entry, mycology anon returning and the new 2343 arc
I saw the recent shit show and i dont wanna make it about me. bad jinx juju

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>>46230547
Dawwww... Gnomesama is tsuntsun

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When you heard of /hag/

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[Sol !BN2jysYUOI No.]

Hello friends and Mycology anon in particular,

thread discussion for me is backloaded a few months so I won’t get into it beyond the last few days, Regarding the whole confusion over Phase right now, from my understanding, the situation is as follows:

>1. We lost the war but the land we lost was either historical land of other powers in lore (voms/774, is the other Phase writer who sort of changed our language and culture a bit still around?). We also lost a peninsula, and a island.
>2. The CIO (others too) decided to exploit /aeg/ and not us. Most of the internal problems we would have would come from the more accurate tribalism in our thread like the old capippalist and kaipaniki feud, the gen 2 split threads, etc.
>3. As should be expected given Aetheria’s fall, they were instead the ones exploited by foreign powers, including us. There was some good lore about this from aegbro.

In all, I have decided to cancel the plans for the war of liberation since tit all became increasingly impossible for me to do given how busy i am and truthfully, the thread drama gave my little motivation to do it in the end.

As for your micro state, i have a proposal: Why not have Capippalist separatists that manage to succeed somewhat in getting autonomy? That could be an interesting route. Also, Im not the most qualified on the current state of pcg to know if other things have emerged that come up in lore. Glad to see you back, let’s try to get back to work. Maybe the other pcg anon can come back too.

Also, good work on the /aeg/ lore piece, Retro, i presume. I wish i was around to help there and I am sure aegbro would have too. If there are any corrections I would like to make, ill try to bring them up. I think the only thing you might want to consider changing is the name for /pcclg/ to something else as I think the diastima name came post-war. I personally would prefer us to use the former name of cyberlive (Ayakkayolia) and use Syndeoneia as part of a union (like Poland-Lithuania) but maybe we should make a whole new name for that shortlived empire. Good seeing that you’re doing well and also glad this place has seemed to become much less toxic than it was for a while. Impressed by the efforts put into the Heishin War, Space, and this game.

Maybe I will pop in more often when I can.

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>>46241204
Appreciate the catch-up Sol, and kind of glad I missed this drama people keep mentioning. I'm backlogged with finishing up the /morig/ mycological survey and then doing projects for /2434/, /risu/ and /mans/ but assuming that I take breaks in-between projects I'd love to write about the Cappipalist separatist microstate I mentioned. I'll iron out some details and chuck them in an entry for feedback some time, if you have any suggestions for a location within Syndeoneia that makes the most sense I'd appreciate that too.

Glad to see you in the thread again, and hopefully the other /pcg/ writer shows their face again.

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>>46241204
Sol!!! I miss you!

[Sol !BN2jysYUOI No.]

>>46242370
Take your time, it takes forever to get stuff done for me anyways. I know that I need to probably go through the lore archive for PCG and find out what still applies.

Location wise, I think we were reworking the map but i personally can't remember what the state of that was.

Glad to see you too.

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>>46230547
Oh sweet, I'm glad you like the website, founder!

[Anonymous No.]

>Sol is back
>Myco anon is back
>Vnug anon is back
Uuuuuuu /vtwbg/ is healing...

[Anonymous No.]

>>46244637
>Vnug anon is back
Proof for these claims?

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>>46217681
Additional proposal
>7. Public Market
Instead of having to directly contact someone for trades, let me put up a listing of a trade anyone can see and fulfill, after which the listing expires. Make it like the NASFAQ auction house
Additionally, let me cancel pending requests.

Responses:
>2. Trade Clarity
The idea was not to make individual trades public, but to make the combined resource movement in and out of a nation within, say, a week's time public. I would LOVE to just look at the numbers as it satisfies my autism[/spoiler
>5. Resources balancing
There is also the issue of people with double resource nodes being fucked because as the system is, a duplicate resource node, especially if it is of lower richness than the other one, is completely useless.
>6. Crops rework
Something similar could be done with minerals as well, but I do not know if that would become too autistic. Some mineral resources after all tend to occur together, like Iron, Copper, and Gold in IOCG deposits. Instead of a resource node providing a single resource, have it provide multiple ones with different weighs. A single IOCG mine could be "Rich" in copper, "Fair" in Iron, and "Poor" in gold, so that each "unit" of production would be divided among the possible resources provided accordingly, in this case for example, 0.65 Copper, 0.30 Iron, 0.05 Gold

It would be a big thing, and probably not high on the list of priorities, but since you wanted ideas, I want to share them.

Questions:
>List of resource ideas
How in depth do you want the list to be? It would be extremely easy to get resource bloat, although having a wide variety of resources would add to the realism aspect.
>Manufacturing
What are your ideas for how manufactured goods would work as of now, if you have any?

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Additional proposal
>7. Public Market
Instead of having to directly contact someone for trades, let me put up a listing of a trade anyone can see and fulfill, after which the listing expires. Make it like the NASFAQ auction house
Additionally, let me cancel pending requests.

Responses:
>2. Trade Clarity
The idea was not to make individual trades public, but to make the combined resource movement in and out of a nation within, say, a week's time public. I would LOVE to just look at the numbers as it satisfies my autism
>5. Resources balancing
There is also the issue of people with double resource nodes being fucked because as the system is, a duplicate resource node, especially if it is of lower richness than the other one, is completely useless.
>6. Crops rework
Something similar could be done with minerals as well, but I do not know if that would become too autistic. Some mineral resources after all tend to occur together, like Iron, Copper, and Gold in IOCG deposits. Instead of a resource node providing a single resource, have it provide multiple ones with different weighs. A single IOCG mine could be "Rich" in copper, "Fair" in Iron, and "Poor" in gold, so that each "unit" of production would be divided among the possible resources provided accordingly, in this case for example, 0.65 Copper, 0.30 Iron, 0.05 Gold

It would be a big thing, and probably not high on the list of priorities, but since you wanted ideas, I want to share them.

Questions:
>List of resource ideas
How in depth do you want the list to be? It would be extremely easy to get resource bloat, although having a wide variety of resources would add to the realism aspect.
>Manufacturing
What are your ideas for how manufactured goods would work as of now, if you have any?


>Fucked up spoilers

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>>46217681
For fucks sake I fucked up the reply too
See: >>46245957

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>>46244637
If only the Sanalites can leave.

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>>46247612
Your wish is my demand. Aight breaddog, pack your things, we moving!

[Anonymous No.]

Cycle passed

Happiness changed by -4.86 with the new value being 35.19
100/100 people working, had access to 1/6 necessities + entertainment, and 3/3 luxuries.
Delta/wrk ratio for the "Rich" node changed by +1.1%, and for the "Fair" node by -27.3%
Predicted production for the "Rich" node for the next cycle is 55.89 units with 4 less workers, although it will likely be less than that due to happiness deficit. I predict it to be close to 50 units.

Production for the "Rich" deposit higher than expected. Probably a rounding issue, or then fractional resources are not shown visibly but are still there, although the fact that the amount of other commodities changed by -1 would imply that I would have lost one from the "Rich" node resource as well.

Sell me necessities:
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>>46047014
Possible bug report
1. One of my trade offers is still pending even though the recipient has accepted it.
2. Accepted trade offers count towards the 5 offers limit. I cannot make new ones.
3. I cannot accept the trade offer I sent to myself. Unless I am a retard who does not know how to accept trade offers.

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https://rentry.org/Great-Siege-Lunesian-Zetan-Preparations

It's complete, i think. me and zetabro worked on this together, and I think it turned out alright. Left with more things to do and change with my own lore thanks to the stuff done in here but that's for another time. Tell me if its any good and/or makes sense.
>What is pan-medianism and why is it called that?
well, I am making the decision for all the IDbros (lol) that our peoples are called medians after the name of the mountain range that runs down from Risu to mhm (not on the map yet), the Median Mountains, or literally center mountains. Naming shit is hard, but i like it enough but any protests from the other IDbros or ideas are welcome because it was hard to think of something in latin that worked considering i dont know latin beyond google translate. But Pan-Medianism seeks to restore the ID Empire idea I had in some form, basically. idk, tried to make something interesting and different.

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>>46250285
Great, I just wanted to pet squirrels.

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>>46255123
It's ok dude, we're just moving down south to the funky tree people. We gonna learn magics and shiz brah, I even got a dealer down there for that gooooood shit...

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>>46251638
>Cycle passed
>number autism
This feels nostalgic...

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>>46256568
What are you even talking about? What about the Bakery and the Squirrels?

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>>46252601
>1
Hmm... I checked the logs and there arent any errors... Did you refresh the page?

>2
Woops, will fix, thanks

>3
Fixed. You can't trade with yourself. I forgot I commented that line out while I was testing.

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>>46259055
Forgeeet them dude, let's just go back to the nature, eat bark and smoke leaves... The hippie life is the reeeeal life bro... They'll teach you how to loooovee.... and hopefully how to go along with a joke jesas...

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>>46262483
Don't stereotype us

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I just wanted to run a bakery.

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>>46262613
So you don't got no weed to sell me?

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>>46263632
Maybe one day I'll be able to make this come true for you in the game too

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>>46263632
I dunno what your issue is with the one in the repubkic but i wouln't mind a family bakery in the retro reich, cunt already said uts fine, bolts would bring a family over on cassandras request

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>>46265022
Pan pan!
>>46265455
Not sure we have enough families to do this. I'm still working out the details of the pizza ovens. I also don't think I have the time to draw up a bakery in vrt.

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>>46260993
What's up with happiness? no matter what I do it tanks.

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If we did open up a bakery in vrt, it would also mean that the productivity of the one in who would be down which might make us fail.

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>>46266084
>>46265627
Pan pan! I love bread dogs!

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>>46266234
Pan pan! They love you too.

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>>46265877
- The debuff has a cap, keep growing your Necessity stores and it will get better
- Thanks to this >>46251638 anon (You?), I spotted a bug in the algorithm. Should be a bit better now.
- Because of the previous point, I ran some forecast tests on the test server and tweaked the math to make it a bit easier on starter settlements

I do appreciate the feedback and suggestions, its helping to find a lot of little issues.

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>>46266084
>productivity of the one in who would be down
Why?

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>>46266466
We would be losing families in the who bakery, which would lower the production there because of the lack of people to work. Maybe in 20 years, we can expand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46266451
I still only have two resources for /moon/ devbro btw.

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>>46258563
I will continue autisming

Cycle passed
72/100 workers
1/6 necessities + entertainment
3/3 luxuries
Happiness changed by -4.87, new value at 30.32

Despite having LESS workers, happiness dropped MORE
Does the amount of goods you have stockpiled affect the rate at which unhappiness falls, instead of only whether you have enough to feed the population for the next cycle? Does having people in the entertainment job decrease the rate of happiness drain?

Prediction was even worse than I suspected. Produced only 45 units with 72 workers. Delta/wrk ratio changed by -19.49% for the "Rich" node.
Next cycle prediction is 0 for all nodes at 0 workers. Let's see if that fixes any of the happiness issues.

>>46047014
I'm starting to feel like the unhappiness mechanic is a bit too oppressive as it stands currently. Is the "happiness drain to necessities available" function linear? As in, missing 1 necessity adds a flat -X to the drain rate?

I think it would be better if the system was less punishing. I think one should be able to deal with the drain a bit better by having pops not working, instead of it seemingly making the drain worse. As the system stands currently it seems there is no way out of the unhappiness pit unless you can meet all of the demanded necessities.

>>46266451
No problems!

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>>46266853
>Me to my settlement

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>>46046180
https://rentry.org/Secretariat-214
I integrated the previous post >>45796710 into the main document, but stuck now...

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>>46241204
thanks for the feedback, as for the name, i tried discerning the circumstances of the Diastima name but i could only find it beign mentioned in thread like twice in short succession of two posts deciding that /aeg/ now simply is called that retroactively. i am not even sure if that was aegbro or jsut someone else but since aegbro never said anything else i assume that it stands. and as i already mentioned i cannot decipher what of the many namedrops of megas is meant to be the name for /pcclg/.

that said however i did try to give a nod to the Ayakkayolia name by mentioning some places havign called it that in the past and given that point maybe it is fair to assume that the name change happened cultury when the change from /clg/ to /aeg/ happened so i will change it. i think it is an improvement, thanks.

as for doing well... not really but this is the first piece of lore i managed to write in months that i felt good with so as shitty as it might sound, having finally given up on being on good terms with certain people and simply accepting that they have no good will towards me and i don't care or liek them anymore weirdly enough has helped my mind.

that beign said, while i made it clear in the beginning that this is meant more as a subjective take as to not have it contradict potential details, i also do not intend to misrepresent lore of others, even those i am on bad terms now, and thus if anyone else feels like something is off or some correction feel free to drop it and i will take it into consideration.

>>46265627
>>46266084
well it is an offer, tho it would be run by a family that would move over with bolts and thus before all the things that happened to /nasa/ later and therefore should not impact productivity of the one in the owl republic as that one would be a sepeprate entity afterwards.

if you just want to write some lighthearted family buisiness thing, feel free to take up the offer.

[World Exploring Sanallite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>46263632
The bakery floor plans in /who/ is done. I just haven't been motivated to write the rest of the plans.

[World Exploring Sanallite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>46266639
Also did you ever think you could train the locals to make food? The bakery would be better off learning to bake local recipes using local ingredients. Also it appears I'm being false flagged again. So trip is back on. Anyway as novel as /nasa/'s sweets and bread are local recipes will give you ideas how to use local ingredients. For the /who/ mining town the soil isn't that great for wheat. Which means Sanallites in the bakery have to learn to bake marble rye and barley bread to start with. Next breads on the menu is potato bread and maple syrup buns. We don't have 21st century freight. So it takes time and money to import ingredients from other regions.

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>>46266709
My bad. Fixed.

>unhappiness mechanic is a bit too oppressive
Yeah, thats what the forecasts on the test server showed, hence the tweak. I'm working on a trading transaction stability update rn, but I'll run some more tests for this in a few hours. If I do many bigger number adjustments, I'll bump everyone's happiness up by like 20 to give us a few more cycles to monitor things.

>Is the "happiness drain to necessities available" function linear?
It's a combination of a couple of functions at the moment, but they're very much not linear.

>I think it would be better if the system was less punishing
Yup, working on it. Thanks for the tests and the samples.

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>>46196242
i was honestly jsut trying to reroll for better resource nodes because i got hit with a bunch of poor ones and jsut a single fair while others said they had onyl rich and fair nodes. i wasn't aware there was a limit for settlements in a nation

that beign said tho, maybe instead of pure random assignment there should be some overall value of richness for resources a settlement can have that is equal for each so one does not get hit by bad rng

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>>46267941
Is this something you could fix? Or is having a useless copper node a feature?
nasfaqg, btw

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>>46267975
>some overall value of richness for resources a settlement can have that is equal for each
Kinda breaks the realism, but its a fair point from a game mechanics POV. Will make note.

[World Exploring Sanallite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

As for opening a bakery in /vrt/ onobots could be better bakers than Sanallites in theory if they can automate most of the cooking process. In /nasa/ we should have bread factories and appliances that automate mixing, raising, kneading, and baking for us. Its part of the food factory that makes rations for us.

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>>46268078
>Is this something you could fix
Sorta, and I get its a tad annoying right now, but see below

>a feature?
Kinda. Next "small" gameplay update is "world events". Beta test for "world events" will have random nodes in some select countries turn into either "Blighted" or "Plentiful" nodes, which will either severely detract from yield, or severely boost it, respectfully. If you have multiple nodes of the same resource, only one might be affected which lets you keep extracting from the unaffected one.

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>>46268432
When do accepted trade offers disappear from the trade offers pile?

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>>46268432
Do you think part of the happiness issues comes down to there not being enough necessities given out due to RNG? Like, I got two luxuries and one commodity.

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>>46268159
well for realisms sake you would have to actually consider what resources nations written for actually have, right now for example the Retro Reich(vrt) isn't actually rich in rubies but amethysts and quartz.

and while this might sound icnredibly stupid on first read, i fear that goign for realism and reflecting nations that way isntead of a game balance might actually encourage people to powergame their nation by suddenly bringing up richness in resources etc.

so i think goign for balance form a gamestandpoint is a better choice here

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>>46268432
Really REALLY low priority, but could sorting by the type/amount of resource be added at some point? My OCD is killing me...

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>>46268432
>>46268546 (me)
Because they are still counting towards the cap of 5 offers.

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>>46268432
for the double node issue, maybe limit the amount of workers that a node can have, that way you can use commodities later that can increase that number like a mine or a farm

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>>46047014
Please add cotton into the game and make moon always get it please thank you desu

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>>46268546
World tick removes any Accepted or Denied offers older than 1 day

>>46268628
Doubt it. But everyone should at least have an Entertainment node to mine for Necessity.
That being said.
Right now every country only has 10 nodes, and every player only gets 3. This was done to make testing easier in early stages.
Once I put in the new resources, countries are getting 50, and players will get 4.

>>46268686
>so i think goign for balance form a gamestandpoint is a better choice here
I agree, I already made note of it and its on the roadmap.

>>46268719
It's killing me too anon. Its on the todo list (but gods do I hate javascript....)

>>46268821
>limit the amount of workers that a node can have
Also on the roadmap. Not super easy right now because of the backend is set up, but I do plan on it.

>>46269144
>add cotton
On it.
>Make moon always get it
Thats gonna have to wait a bit

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>>46269184
>I cant trade for 24h
Please make it so that accepted or denied requests do not count towards the cap of 5 requests im begging you

[Anonymous No.]

>>46269184
>>46047014
While we're on the topic of adding things, sugar and candy?

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>>46269184
in that case i would like to ask for gold, amethyst and quartz as resources

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>>46269277
The next update tonight will raise the cap and implement this change, but for now I can go in there an manually clean it up. Just kinda wondering what all the trades going on are now though....

>>46269363
Both of those are processed goods. Gonna have to wait for that update.

>>46269774
Noted.

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>>46269817
actually candy and sugar in the candy kingdom would be a mined resource

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>>46269817
>Just kinda wondering what all the trades going on are now though...
Scramble for necessities, settlements are dying.

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>>46269817
ohh also could entertainment be a tradeable resource since thigns like wandering circuses and theaters groups or bards are a thing?

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>>46270211
Country-specific resource for the sake of lore accuracy are coming in a later update. Right now the balancing is tough with just the resources we have. But I hear you.

>>46270275
... fair enough

>>46270411
I thought about this, but I want to flesh it out with a better mechanic than just trading "raw" entertainment. Kind of want to make a whole tab for managing cultural imports and exports.

[Anonymous No.]

baker-chama?

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>>46273449
>>46273449
>>46273449
Fresh bread