what did she mean by this

[Anonymous No.]

it doesn't explain anything at all!

[Anonymous No.]

NO MALES

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
herataso…. She’s definitely a Rushia 2.0.
Dyke version

[Anonymous No.]

literally coping and seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
talking about the upcoming mc collab I'm assuming, had males on the poster and kanata said she's not gonna collab with males, basically this tweet is saying she's still not collabing with males and that the mc collab is okay'd because she doesn't have to collab with males to participate
at least that's what I think is going on

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
She's saying it's fine in this case only because it's a sponsored thing, but that doesn't change her usual stance. The translation got 案件 wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719886
at least with a dykes you can let things like this slide more easily as no one excepts her to flirt with some eboy or smth

[Anonymous No.]

I heard she cried in the last mengen and said things like "男と絡んだら私は天音かなたをやめます" btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
She will be jumping ship to vshojo soon. Kson has had her claws in from the start

[Anonymous No.]

>Although there are indeed m*les on the card I will not interact with, nor perceive, a single one of them

Yeaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's pretty uhhhhh ummm based

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720047
Watashi....

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720102
vshojo is even worse than niji when it comes to male interaction. remember that nyanners karaoke stream?

[Anonymous No.]

why are people treating it like m*le collab in the first place?
it's literally a game set up with variety of YouTubers in professional environment with supervision

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720189
I'm saying that Kanata wants her "talent freedom", aka the ability to interact with as much dick as possible. So yes, I do remember. And my pooint stands

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720009
So is she going to stick to pekora like glue?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720047
that's only cuz her unicorns were making a fuss

[Anonymous No.]

>streaming alongside males
>you're forced to ignore their very existence and pretend like they're not there so you don't risk upsetting your khhv chigyu fanbase

kind of pathetic any way you look at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
its over collab w/ male she even talking about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720315
Can someone explain why Kanata is getting all the heat when she's only 20% of the hololive presence in this collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
>Translated from Google.
No shit. DeepL it. Google translate sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720594
>pekora
got molested by an ojisan in 3D
>botan
dried up hag
>chloe
vshojo-level slut, so it's not a big deal
>laplus
laplus

[Anonymous No.]

kanatan... not like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
This is like the 10th post about this nothing burger. Move on dramafags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720250
Why is Kanata even doing it if she knew males were going to be in it to begin with? she could've easily decline and they could've asked FBK, Matsuri, etc.
I've seen Kanata's stance on males and her idol way and completely agree with it but i'm still going to drag her on this because it still seems hypocritical. If she seriously doesn't want to upset unicorns go FULL idol, not partial idol not "this situation is okay because..." no DO NOT INTERACT WITH MALES PERIOD.
I mean after all that shit with Coco Heimen shouldn't be worried about Kanata to begin with but all this posturing shit she's been doing lately reeks of her not really being able to hold up to being an lesbian an idol after all.

And then there's Management too they fucking know these retards are going to drag the hololive girls anyway, why not send the STARS or at least once again FBK, Matsuri, etc. girls that are completely fine with males and can wrangle their fanbase.

This is such a colossal fuck up on both ends.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm more confused by the fact she even has unicorns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720556
Gen-chan made a collab at the same time he unveiled an outfit, he needs the money, don't blame him

[Anonymous No.]

kek, what a cope.
Just accept your hypocrisy and move on.
Ignore the schizo unicorns. It's already been proven those worthless idiots aren't the majority of superchats multiple times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720354
she made that bed and she will sleep in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720594
because of that clip on youtube that all the sisters are upset about

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720719
Can you larp any worse than this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
>don't worry my dear schizos not one pixel of a male will be visible during the stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
Can this be considered spamming or flooding at this point? You can't force a drama just by spamming the same thread on the catalog over and over again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720719
blame management and kanatan lack of spine

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720719
Beggarkun you're not fooling anyone. I hope you used a bot to write this though because holy shit get something better to do with your time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720719
they hated him for he spoke the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720354
love that these posts always act like the women aren’t receiving thousands of dollars a day for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720594
Because beggars legit hate her for shutting them down and are trying to stir the pot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720849
kill yourself faggot
Kanata is self declared unicorn herself just as Laplus

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721066
As in: you don't know what's actually happening and you're talking out of your ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719877
ok self-hating tranny

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people who don't watch Kanata or even like her talking as if they know anything about her fans and this situation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721144
>Kanata is self declared unicorn herself just as Laplus
And we saw how that went

[Anonymous No.]

to all beggars and faggots here
this event doesn't change anything and her stance remains the same
you can cry about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721293
Pretty much, they should learn Japanese before shitting on a Japanese vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721160
Bullshit, dude.
If it was a solved situation that everyone assessed properly like you're saying, it wouldn't BE a situation. But instead Kanata is losing her mind, making unhinged statements in the mengen, and couldn't even watch toss ball.

[Anonymous No.]

>Kanata does something she did before that nobody had any problems with
>Reiterates her stance so it can't be taken out of context
>Fans are satisfied
>EOPs who don't like or watch her take it out of context
>catalog will be spammed for days
Epic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720719
UUUM is a black company, they just specified holomem they wanted, and for some reason (trick, blackmail, business, I dunno) Cover couldn't refuse. That's my rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721368
>unhinged statements in the mengen
I'm sure you're a heimin. Why don't you provide timestamps?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get the issue. She can't collab with males or with homostars specifically? Because if it's just homostars that's a weird distinction to make IMO, which I agree she is free to follow, but weird nonetheless. Maybe because if she did it'd be too simple to do so again/too hard not to do so again since they are under the same parent company?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719877
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720719
This is one of her chance to get a sponsored stream that's why she need to do it, i guess

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't La+ also say something similar and then it turned out she was playing offstream with some eceleb guy and was in his discord and shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721417
what do EOPs have to do with this? her japanese fans are the one that are making her go crazy. you need to stop blaming everything on le EOP boogeyman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721368
It's not closed but you don’t know shit, so you shouldn't say shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721417
fans arent making these threads i can tell you as much

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721567
cute gamer maid

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721587
Kanata has way more options than just this , she doesn't need it none of them do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721609
>what do EOPs have to do with this
He asks on the EOP board, in an EOP thread, with an OP that’ll be spammed for days (by an EOP).

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721609
>what do EOPs have to do with this?
Because this is entirely a forced drama by shitstirrers like you predicated entirely on the assumption that other people who can't understand Japanese will believe whatever you tell them
>her japanese fans are the one that are making her go crazy.
No they aren't and no she isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721590
she apparently played valo off air with regis and kobo and some twitch streamers

only discord thing i know of was her getting in trouble for getting caught being in a Rust community server for streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
Are real viewers actually legit upset about this or is it just a few deranged unicorns plus sisters/homofags/nijifags larping as unicorns

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
Kanata has quickly become one of the smartest girls in the industry

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721500
https://youtu.be/xqtGIaStTPE?t=994

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721812
No one cares about this, it’s just catalog bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720952
No, you definitely can. 4chan has an extremely long history of it. Might even be able to argue it was easier before that catalog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721543
It's not that she can't, she won't allow herself
This is an issue because she can't back down of a collab she was tricked into

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721812
1. No.
2. Stop abusing the word unicorn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721609
Because SEA thinking they're close to being Japanese or "understanding the feelings of the Asian (Japanese)" people , they feel the need to always blame those who "don't understand" despite 99/100 times the girls getting screwed over is by Asian fans not Western fans who generally seem more supportive of freedom, see ex: Towa etc.

tl:dr EOP is just a common boogeyman or scapegoat if you see any anon on an English speaking board saying that don't take them seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721906
yeah that's what i meant, that it is self imposed. but again, is it ALL males or just homostars? isn't she a dyke anyway? I don't get the outrage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721795
>caught being in a Rust community server for streamers
There's this one also, but that's her RM account

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721144
ahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721812
I’ve seen like a few on twitter but it’s almost completely manufactured drama by

1. Homobeggars still seething about that clip
2. Dramafags desperate for anything
3. Antis in general knowing Kanata is weak to negativity

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721991
All males, the outrage comes from everyone thinking she lied or changed her mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721144
>just as Laplus
RORU
RUMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721991
>I don't get the outrage.
Here? Just look at who keeps making these threads and the pattern becomes clear that it's the same salty faggots from that clip comments section a month ago.
In JP? There's not really an outrage and it's weird as fuck that you and everyone else in this thread just believes that there is one unquestioningly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721812
Probably like 2% of gaymin are actually losing their minds like Kanata is, but 2% of thousands is a lot of people who can go running around shitposting. And outside of that 2% is still a lot of people who just don't want to watch male collabs but aren't ripping their hair out and burning merch.
I personally think the collab was a poor idea that anyone should have seen would cause rampant shitposting, but Kanata's decision is her decision and now the results are here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722049
wasn't this debunked?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720719
Why the fuck is it a big problem to you to begin with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722127
I thought the Homobeggars were only the EN guys why would they care about Kanata if she is JP and can't communicate or collab with any of them anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722127
It's also crucial to understand that very few people with membership or active heimin twitters will speak out against her.
Even if they're crying into their Kanata daki, or running off to megami or sk to blow it out their ass, they're still just gonna うんうん in the mengen and tell her they love her on twitter while keeping up their bot 了解 to all her info tweets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722304
see >>45722127>>45721417
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721812
Kanata has vile and dedicated antis that are not above larping as unicorn schizos to attack her.
They will use any angle they can find to make her miserable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722127
eh I wouldn't completely dismiss few of her gachi getting concerned
I'm glad she cleared it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720719
Because she is setting expectations. Kanata coming out and straight up saying 'no males' is a great way to keep hardcore fans, but it's also kinda crippling for her growth in the entertainment industry. Voice acting roles, various partnerships or sponsorships, game tournaments, etc. all effectively end up off the table, because even a single male being a part of it would mean she either has to decline it, or upset the fans she promised 'no males' to. Undoubtedly she is using this as a way to say "Look, I can still do those things but without directly interacting with said males, even my manager agrees, so it's fine", so that she doesn't screw herself too much down the road.

[Anonymous No.]

So Kson really was the only thing keeping her sane huh?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get why the unicorn situation became so much harsher in the recent year, it seems. Is it all just larping? Maybe people who saw retarded "idol culture bad" clips but actually thought the misrepresentation of idol culture was a good thing and joined as secondaries to defend a non-existent cause?
Because don't get me wrong, I don't want male collabs for my oshi either, but this kind of event/work-related stuff has never been an issue. You ask anyone who has Marine as an oshi and doesn't want male collabs about all of the 2hu shit and nobody gives a single fuck. It's just obviously not the same.
Nobody loses their minds either because most of the studio staff looking at them in their tight mocap suits for concerts is male. It's always been about the breach of the private space between vtuber and fan.
It's a somewhat similar reason as to why even if you go to regular flesh streamers with fans that don't give a fuck about him being in a relationship, they still don't really wanna hear about his girlfriend all stream. They're not there for the girlfriend, they're there to interact with the streamer. It's not a couple channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722385
finally someone that actually understands how it works

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722177
>>45722385
You know, the "unicorn menace" seems kind of highly overstated if the best evidence of it is "well the 'unicorns' aren't going to say anything or harass her or make a stink but they're totally upset you just won't see it". I'm not saying there are no gachis, but this is more of a self-own against beggars since the strawman of "unicorn" fans holding a gun to her head never seems to be substantiated versus active harassment from people mad about her own stance. Why not give her agency in this case and stop blaming the fans she actively wants and seeks that you can't even point to doing anything actually toxic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721621
>>45721869
>>45721919
>>45722127
>>45722153
>>45722177
>>45722421
For something that is a "nothingburger" you people sure are doing a lot of damage control here. Are you trying to convince yourselves or other people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722127
I've barely seen any homobeggars seething, you got the few redditors that don't even watch the stars, but the rest of the comments I've seen, "I don't agree but she's free to do what she want's" or "If she's more comfortable with girls then..." that kind of shit. Only other shit I see is schizo unicorns doing victory laps and now dramaniggers trying to stir up shit with these new developments while larping as unicorns. Hell, some of them probably are unicorns themselves, let's not give unicorns that much credit.

Personally it does seem hypocritical at a quick catalog glance but in the end why should I be upset what some ho I don't watch does? Why would I want to see this person collaborate with x person with a penis? Beyond seeing what this drama was about I don't really care at the end of the day. Let the woman play minecraft while autistically avoiding the men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722529
you sound like a normalfag who has no idea about kanatan mindset and the fans she has all

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720594
Mostly because unlike the other girls she made a statement saying she will never interact with any males

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722457
Because as we all know girls who are lesbians cannot possibly be in any close proximity to a human male, even if it's in a professional setting, or else they'll *checks notes* stop being lesbians. These unicorns are fucking retarded and Kanata's stance shouldn't have to include the things you listed because any person with a single braincell would not even think about this being a "threat" to their relationship or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722789
Bro you're not Japanese, Kanata isn't some 5th dimensional being and you're some kind of 200 IQ cypher. She wants to be an Idol Kanata's view of idols are women that are devoted to their fans and don't want to hurt them by having other males make them feel un appreciated. What you don't understand is that people doing this shit tend to end up being more harm than good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722529
Because people like Oboretai had a bone to pick and were willing to create a strawman of an enemy that is simultaneously barely functional, too socially anxious to talk or post anything, mentally retarded, a tiny minority, and also the loudest voice in the room that uses mastermind manipulation to hold the girls universally hostage under threat of blackmail and violence. It's necessary to do so to justify your own zealousness in "combating" them. The butchering of the word "unicorn" to mean what it means today is emblematic of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722869
and she will not interact with them in any serious capacity just as she said, this event isn't collab. case closed.
all homobeggars and dramaniggers get the rope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722789
Yeah, she's not my oshi. I always enjoy her music, some of her stream series and all of her collabs with my oshi, but I'm not up to date on her fans or whatever. But this is a general sentiment I'm seeing in all discussion around this subject.
I haven't seen even the most schizo of fans mad because his chuuba accepted to be on the same stage as a male MC in order to participate in something like V-Carnival. I bet over half of the schizos making a big deal out of events now don't even know what V-Carnival is.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this confirmed to be about the Minecraft collab with men?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723163
It's about Gen-chan's graduation, you should've seen her crying about it in her mengen

[Anonymous No.]

She just had a membership stream right, anyone know if she addressed this drama there?

[Anonymous No.]

This situation is so dumb.

>thing is virtual nothingburger
>a few JPs worry that it's a somethingburger
>Kanata then has to tell people that it's a nothingburger
>EOPs: if it's such a nothingburger why are you having to address it like it could've been a somethingburger
>shitflinging ensues between unicorns, beggars and shitposters spinning both sides
Everyone is being retarded here including Kanata

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723217
Genichirou? Did she beat him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723018
Doesn't matter though because to most hardcore idol fans just being around the presence of a male is enough to start a witch hunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722758
Reread the thread and you will see plenty. See literally three posts below you. For some reason a bunch of people on this board, like >>45722941, are getting angry about "unicorns" on her behalf(?) while backhandedly shitting on her by saying her stance is not something anyone with a functioning brain cell would have.
>>45722789
>Let the woman play minecraft while autistically avoiding the men.
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722186
That was laplussy talking very "friendly" with that dude, Kanata has nothing to do with that...

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720315
>Come to jp bros the grass is greener
Without cope explain yourselves jp fags

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723274
Just misuse the word unicorn like every other one of your ilk if you want to talk about shit you don't understand.

[Anonymous No.]

Kanata is actually so based for making homobeggar seethe this hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722976
so basically he made his strawman real by constantly talking to them until someone who actually saw themselves in that boogeyman heard the call? kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723272
A little stuck with the lighting reversal at the start but she killed him after she gave up on doing a cool move like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722869
And thus the homobeggars targeted her and are false flagging and spamming these threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722682
Because IT IS a nothingburger but people here try their very best to blow everything up into a big deal. Remember when the “no male” Kanata clip blew up and how many people were purposely misconstruing Kanata words into saying anyone who collabs with a male isn’t a real idol? I’m a Heimin who doesn’t give a fuck about male collabs I just don’t like people attacking Kanata or trying to manufacture drama to get others to attack her.

[Anonymous No.]

>vtuber says she will not interact with males
>despite it still get roped into some kind of event with males cuz management
>some fans are concerned (not malicious)
>vtuber makes clarification that the self made rule still applies
>fans are calmed down and wish her luck
>anons who don't watch her are seething because?????

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723285
I'm not shitting on her stance, I'm saying that she could EASILY have saved herself a lot of unnecessary trouble and professional disadvantages had she not taken that stance or excluded males by THAT wide of a margin, this isn't even about this event specifically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723430
>anons who don't watch her are seething because?????
BECAUSE UNICORNS GRRRR. Watch one of them indirectly call Kanata a massive retard again while supposedly being on her side against the evil unicorns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722127

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723430
Now make a thread saying this and we'll be out of the woods

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723430
See here >>45722127

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723463
So the homobeggars get to dictate her speech? Nobody cares however many of these posts you spam. We know Kanata acts in good faith.

[Anonymous No.]

I know this is people pretending to be unicorns to troll, but the idea that Kanata can't be in a game with dudes on the opposing side is insane.

Not only is it not really possible, it would be boring since women are usually too careful or passive to make things interesting in a competition 95% of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720719
Well what else is she going to do?

When you work in the entertainment industry, putting collabs aside, you have to work with all variety of people. Producers, mixers, partnerships with people of all variety and even big inter-company deals that have a shit ton of money on the line. If you yourself refuse to work with anyone because "no males", well then who the fuck are you? People in the higher ups aren't going to bend over and risk their own branding for your own personal views. 80% of people working in the showbusiness, be it behind the scenes, or on stage are guys. You would have to be genuinely stupid as fuck to refuse such opportunities because you refuse to work with people of the opposite gender.

That's literally peak extremist SJW, which I doubt Kanata is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723575
this is kanata's own decision, not cover's or anyone elses

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723639
Why did you skip over 80 posts of content just to single out the most obvious retarded troll to reply to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723639
That's how amane kanata wants her career to be. That's it

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723575
>I know this is people pretending to be unicorns to troll
Then don't feed them. What the hell. Why have people forgotten basic internet etiquette?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723639
>Kanata anti is homobegger
like clockwork

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723694
I think the post was legit just because you're opposed to it or have a different stance doesn't make it some "troll" post. Even the guy you replied to is trying to sensibly reason with the facts at hand.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this gonna mark the end of Hololive? They are literally forcing someone who is probably the most anti-male in Holo to collab with men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
NG = No Gays

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723803
We leave when fubuki leaves, closely followed by kanata

[Anonymous No.]

it's fascinating to watch people pretending to care about Kanatan while simultaneously shitting on her long time extreme idol stance she literally had since day one on here

[Anonymous No.]

Congrautlations Heimin, your oshi is so retarded that any anti can larp as a deranged unicorn and make the rest of you look bad. Too easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723803
she said in her mengen that if Hololive enforces collabs with males she will quit.
She put this on her manager, she trusted too much and did not look into the details of this collab and now it's too late to pull out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
how is this related to males?
i need a non-schizo explanation

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723906
Got any more lies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723906
I still can't believe she actually believed her manager after all the shit she usually has to go through because her manager is absolute shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723774
No you bumbling retard, I don't care if she collabs with males. I'm saying is she didn't work with guys AT ALL, she wouldn't have joined Hololiove in the first place.
Who is ran
By a male
Her fucking boss, Yagoo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723639
>another beggar calling Kanata a massive retard again to shit on le unicorns

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723906
I hope she quits; it will make her a martyr and will put the other girls on the spot about their choices and well as any managers with any weird ideas like that.
Someone has to step up and remind them that this is an Idol company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723362
naisu, will watch vod

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723906
she's disappointed with situation and said it will not happen again
she's stick to the girls

[Anonymous No.]

Watch holojp they said
No homobeggars they said

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723430
This thread should have ended after this post. What else is there to say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720354
Beautiful. The way Jesus intended.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does it matter if Kanata collabs with men? I don't understand. She said she didn't want to collab with them, and now she is, correct? Maybe she's just changed her tune?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723777
NTA but
>but all this posturing shit she's been doing lately reeks of her not really being able to hold up to being an lesbian an idol after all.
That screams troll post to me idk why

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723906
>>45724007
this is the summary of her mengen from /jp/
>>>/jp/42999887

0. She wasn't able to fully watch WBC because of this and because she had too many things on her mind, so she didn't tweet anything.
1. She cannot talk about everything as this also involves other Holo and other people. Her manager told her to ignore everything but she feels that she wants to talk with Heimin. She saw a lot of comments being worried about her talking with men in VC, but that will never happen, her stance on that has not changed.
2. She apologized about yesterday's Space and she said that she think it was rude (to whom I do not know) and she said again that she cannot talk about everything.
3. Here is what she said about the event:
- She trusts the manager so she accepted the event but she should have checked more
- She and other Holo WILL NOT BE ON THE SAME FUCKING VC AS THE GODDAMN MALE
- She won't even go and greet the other teams before the event
- She has not and will not talk with any other participant in discord outside of Holo
- She has not been invited to a party or an after-party or anything, she also said that even if she was invited she also won't go
4. Here is her determination
- If Hololive changed their policy about male collabs (if they start forcing the collabs) she will quit
- Stated again that she will from now on never communicate or play with men for streams (work), also she of course won't be playing with men behind everyone's back.
- She apologizes that it is impossible for her to never interact with men for work because she is not an indie anymore, for example, Yagoo.
- If Kanata ever thinks that she has betrayed Heimin, she will quit.
- This is everything she wants to say to Heimin, she will not mention these things again in the future
5. Kanata cried a bit and said that it is her fault for even creating a possibility like this for Heimin to doubt her. She is scared that this problem will cause more problems for her down the line with sponsors and such, but even if that happens, she won't be discouraged and will keep trying her best.
6. Kanata said that she didn't want to cry and it is unfair to Heimin because she cried.
7. She understood that no matter how much she tries, she will not be able to please everyone. She said that this is a matter of trust between her and Heimin, so instead of just apologizing, she wants to share what she is thinking with everyone, to communicate with Heimin.
8. If anything happened such as a man talking to her or something, she will take all the responsibility and make a formal apology.
9. Kanata said that she wants to talk with Heimin a lot about the fes and Expo and such. She wants to show Heimin how much she loves us and wants to make everyone happy. Unfortunately, she still isn't able to talk about it for probably a while.
10. She will try to turn everything back to normal tomorrow, so expect a gaming stream or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724188
Just use point 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724150
homobeggars do not watch streams
doubly so for jp streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723274
This is factually incorrect homobeggar

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723905
isn't it great

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724150
You niggers aren't even using that word right anymore. Nobody is pushing for male collabs by saying Kanata is a retarded menhera.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724188
> If Hololive changed their policy about male collabs (if they start forcing the collabs) she will quit
based menhera tenshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724188
>she won't even go and greet the other teams before the event

[Anonymous No.]

Reading time now
Ples wait

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724188
Ngl, she sounds borderline schizophrenic

[Anonymous No.]

Males do not get to talk with her.
Males do not get to greet her.
Kanata doesn't even view males as fellow humans.

Which is FUCKING OBVIOUS since she's an angel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724188
Honestly really respectable of her to also clean the company's name when she could just try to pretend management pushed her to do it against her will. She takes responsibility and reiterates that the company at the moment does not in any way force her to do this kind of thing.
Pretty based if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.]

Was Kanata assaulted or something? I'm not sure it's really fair to warrant quitting over having to interact with a man on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724366
Absolutely based. I love her even more now. Wish Gura had the balls to say this

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get it. If it's going to be such a big issue, why not just don't participate in the event? This thing is done annually right? So she must've known that going in.

[Anonymous No.]

sure would be nice if she had a nearby friend to rely on in a situation like this
too bad the same schizo manager that caused this situation made her move away

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724517
The specific "having to interact with a man on stream" situation may be a bit extreme, but it's still good to have someone putting their foot down saying they will not put up with being forced to do shit they never signed up for. That's how you avoid the slippery slope, don't handwave the first signs of trouble.

[Anonymous No.]

I seriously do not understand the kind of extremist unicorn attitude that’s been picked up over the past year or so, but a lot of it is definitely manufactured by antis on this board using it as a tool to use against Hololive talents. It’s not even something you can blame “idol culture” on, because some idols will still interact with males through sponsorships and tv shows, or feature in the same programs. Nobody’s going to go apeshit about that. But when idol vtubers so much as appear in the same space as men, they get targeted. Even though it’s different to deliberately choosing to collab with men on your channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724517
She's just mentally unstable. Like 90 percent of Hololive, but she specifically is a bit more menhera than the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724601
I have to assume her desire to not be in a stream with men is not greater than her consideration for other people's work. Creating trouble for everyone involved because she didn't think things through before accepting would be a really shitty move. Take the L and learn from it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724517
>understands gachi because she is one herself and wants to make content she herself would want to consume
>uhh was she RAPED

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
not even miko is this mentally ill miko at least acknowledge the stars if necessary and she has no problem with mentioning males

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724188
Deranged. The only way to fix someone like this is immersion therapy. Dump her into an all male environment so she's forced to get used to talking to guys. Otherwise she might struggle to function in real life.
I suspect that's probably what happened here. Her managers realized her extreme stance was unhealthy and put her in the collab so she could gain some experience talking to men in a casual environment. Hopefully we can see her talking normally with guys in the future. If we can dream, maybe even a roberu collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724601
Mane-chan completely failed the assessment check, so here we are.
Who could have ever guessed Kanata's manager is incompetent?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724406
and that's why she has very close relationship with heimin
the parasocial between them goes both ways
also you can now see how she attracted former fandead easily

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724640
I blame retarded "/vt/ collage" twitter accounts making retards think this place is schizo paradise and come here with the express purpose of repeating the behavior they've seen in those screencaps. Attention whoring is a disgrace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724584
I don't follow or watch Kanata much at all but I really respect her for having such strong convictions, even if the may seem crazy and ridiculous to most people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724640
It’s not unicorns it’s antis posing as to stir trouble. Idols have always interacted with males in one way or another as you said through sponsorships and shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724640
you can't grasp that people false flag to make the side they hate look bad? It's pretty obvious and not at all subtle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724280
>Nobody is pushing for male collabs by saying Kanata is a retarded menhera.
Except for the people literally pushing for forced male collabs against her will >>45724724

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724724
ok, I laughed, I'll give it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724188
literally ideal women

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724700

Man, I don't know. I just think it's odd that she would consider quitting over having to interact with a certain group of people. Maybe it's not as drastic as assault, but maybe she does have her reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720315
looks like they are split into four groups, holos are in one group alone, I dont even know what they are going to do in the event anyway, challenges?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724793
These are unironically the root problem of 99% of containment breaking cancer on the site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724882
>Ideal woman
Yeah for other women, maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724936
Maybe I am a woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724188
pic related...

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724188
This whole issue is ignored if she just doesn't say she will never collab with males. She's more then free not to do it, but don't acknowledge it as it just creates shit like this. No one really cared when Aqua was in Vsaikyou not talking to 99% of the dudes, and then when she even did a VC interview with Hal at the end there was nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724891
It's almost like she is taking her audience's preferences into account. How shocking!

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724188
now all that yandere stuff she does sometimes makes it feel even more realistic
no wonder her gachi love her

[Anonymous No.]

Kanataso will speak to Hendy, and you will like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724640
Are you even reading this thread because it's not the pro-Kanata side that's acting up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
She means she wants to collab with males and she only wants cuck fans who will accept it as long as they aren't Holostars.

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody ITT actually speaks Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724891
You're too fixated on the "certain group of people" part. Suisei would probably quit if she was forced to coombait, and nobody would come up with wild theories to justify that. She cares about her image and her image does not involve coombaiting. Doesn't mean she hates people who coombait, she gets along just fine with a bunch of them, much like Kanata and people who interact with men on stream, she just doesn't want that for herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724724
(you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725144
No shit. Thread should have ended after >>45723430

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724936
yeah, me

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724997
I appreciate that she clarified her position on male collabs and she is clearly acting in good faith. Leaving the audience in limbo is a much worse option and comes at the audience's expense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724997
No one cares outside of people who don't watch her. She clarified her stance and was transparent solely for her personal ideals, her fans understand her, other people are now mad about it. Just like last month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725147

That's fair. They're not all coomer bait, though. I'm sure there are some cool dude streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

when you shit on unicorns you indirectly shit on Kanata as well
think about it before you write homobeggars
why do (you) hate her?

[Anonymous No.]

>Pekora gets jealous that Kanata's been rising in popularity and approaching First Army status
>purposely sabotages her by inviting her to join her team in a male Minecraft collab, knowing her strict anti-male unicorn sensibilities will enrage her gachikoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725436
This is retarded, "When Ina called VTuber viewers idiots she MEANT HER FANS TOO" she was obviously talking about backseaters that got too into "you're doing it wrong" and takodachi understood and took no offense. No Kanata is not a schizo that will threaten her favorite idols or their family with death if they interact with males, it is totally legit to call the ones that are borderline like that out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725552
This happened because kanata wanted to kill the ender dragon first and then pebot scheduled a guerilla to kill it even first-er

[Anonymous No.]

can someone explain why is it only kanata needing to engage in drama and explain her situation, while other members involved are seeing barely any

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725557
she literally called herself unicorn numerous times
no need to seeth about it ledditor

[Anonymous No.]

>>45723905
The funny part is that no matter how deranged they act, they'll never be as deranged and mentally fucked in the head as Kanata.

[Anonymous No.]

Will someone explain to me what a unicorn and a homobeggar is?

[Anonymous No.]

Why does the definition of "unicorn" always mean "gachi+CGDCTfag+idolfag+schizostalkers+virgin chasers(the original definition)" until it's brought up that Kanata is three of those things and shitting on them is shitting on her and then it only means "schizostalker"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725676
Because apart from Laplus the others haven't come out and outright said they won't interact with dudes at all. Laplus ran with that shick, got caught out in lies about it and copped some hate over is. This is basically the same thing, just to a lesser extent because this isn't some smoking gun about living with a boyfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725730
Kanata is literally personification of idolfag /vt/ or /jp/ incel KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725761
unicorn means whatever you want it to mean

a homobegger is someone who wants girls to collab with boys by force, even if they dont want to

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725761
>unicorn: respects her wishes and doesn't make 15 threads per second
>homobeggar: doesn't care about her and wants to "own" the other side, attracted to males so they want everyone to be like them

[Anonymous No.]

Kanata shouldn't even be breathing the same air as a male. All the homobeggars can rope themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725932
that's why I plug her nose with my cum

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725552
>>45725657
It all returns to PEKORA.

[Anonymous No.]

Kanata is a very nice girl. That is all

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know. It's her decision, in the end. If she doesn't want to talk to any guys during the collab, that's fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
I don't really get unicorns. I get not wanting to watch a girl stream with dudes and I get disliking roasties, but their whole thing is about maintaining the illusion. Like wrestling fans. Or actually it's more like that sports team owner who told his wife, who was half his age, he didn't care if she fucked basketball players, but he was mad she took pictures with them. How do you get to that point? You have to realize that doesn't sound quite right, surely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45724188
Holy shit based tenshi. Imagine if she actually does leave because Hololive decides to enforce cross-gender collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
what was management thinking? fucking retards they know kanata doesnt collabwith dudes because it makes her uncomfortable. this is disrespectful as fuck to her. i bet her manager is grinning that she own le unicorns but who she really owned is kanata herself. stupid

[Anonymous No.]

What's with the "anyone who shits on this male collab is secretly a homobeggar who WANTS her to collab with males" narrative her fans keep pushing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726094
you really have to go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726133
That would be hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725761
Unicorn - Somebody who screeches and flings shit everywhere at the mere mention of a male
homobeggar - The definition USED to be 'somebody who constantly tries to push for the girls to collab with males', but as is usual, /vt/ watered it down the point where it's literally just 'anybody who mentions males'

[Anonymous No.]

Now just to wait for Holoclips or Oboretai to do another video on this shit and congregate all the homobeggers in their comment sections bitching about muh idol culture.

[Anonymous No.]

watch as her explanation will only make her bigger target for homobeggars and trannies who can't stand idea of women caring for her fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726142
Kanata could have spent ten seconds looking into what the event is. Why did she think an officially sponsored Minecraft event would be gender segregated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720594
Because everyone else just ignored any bitching or trolling about it and Kanata let it get to her.

[Anonymous No.]

Why would her manager even include her in the event if it has males, like there should be a blacklist for all the girls who don't collab with men when forming these types of sponsored mix-gender groups. Homobeggers bitched non-stop that management was preventing the girls from collabing with men, but now it seems like the opposite where management is literally going to force the girls to collab with men. HoloX is one of the best gens because all but 1 of them is gachikoi, do not take this away from us Cover you fucking cucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726280
Because of how they described it to her?
I imagine her manager said something that made her think it's a simple collab with holomem and that's it

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726280
because she's dumb and cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722869
But she's not the only one who said this lol. Pekora/Noel/Kiara and some of the other girls have straight up said that they wouldn't collab with men you fucking tourist clip nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725552
tsk, took (you) long enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726147
It's the same people who say every non-gachi is a homobeggar

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora doesn't collab with males either but she hasn't received any backlash from this because she doesn't make "I HATE MEN" her whole personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726507
non gachi wouldn't complain or shit on her or her fans for avoiding males at all costs while homobeggars would

[Anonymous No.]

>>45725007
recently i saw the samething happen with nekofami too...

[Anonymous No.]

uhh. isnt this a team based PVP??
she's teamed up with the holomems.
they're only interaction with males would be murder.
people really seething about this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726577
it isn't whole personality of Kanataso either
the clipniggers made it look that way

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726094
>he didn't care if she fucked basketball players, but he was mad she took pictures with them.
An actual unicorn is not fine with his wife getting fucked by anyone at any point in time.
The """unicorns""" here have admitted several times that they have warped the definition because "languages evolve", but real reason they do it is because they found themselves in a situation where if they were serious about their beliefs they would have to drop their oshi.
Their fucked up definition only exists on this board where they can mass report anyone that even says the word 'boyfriend'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726577
Kanata doesn't either, she just made the mistake to feed the trolls, which is something Pekora has much more experience with. That's pretty much what the whole issue comes down to.

[Anonymous No.]

Never thought I'd see the day when all that was left of idol purity was Gura and Fauna.

No males means NO MALES. Period

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726730
nekofami are cucked and permit their wife to hang out with men
there nothing realistic about the way she acts

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726280
>>45726413
She asked if it would require talking to men and they said it would not, because the holos will be in a separate VC the entire time
If for some reason they lied about this and drag her into a voice chat with the dudes she said she'll do the bare minimum amount of talking and apologise afterwards, which feels unnecessary but whatever
This was all explained in her twitter space and members stream that none of the people pretending to be mad about this watched

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't these women that don't collab with men just ignore them and not say anything about it? it worked for the other girls who live that hardcore idol life, they don't acknowledge the males and don't acknowledge the requests of male collabs and they keep doing their own shit, that's all you need.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726814
cool larp

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726577
>because she doesn't make "I HATE MEN" her whole personality
oboretai clipnaggers really do be like

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726753
greeting section bring out homobeggar and anti to create a drama
since it kanata weakness toward negativity

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726814
Oh, now that is ironic

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726706
You're wrong. Kanata and her fans are getting shit on right now, because she fucked up, big time.
How? you ask.
Because of her no-male declaration, ANY and EVERY anti now has the perfect cover/camouflage to act like a unicorn Heimin and make sure Kanata and Hololive look like they have insane fans. Outside people won't even know the difference, and you can say goodbye to official sponsorships and collaborations in the future that have males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726706
You don't need to be a homobeggar to read >>45724188 and think she sounds like a mentally ill retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726033
rape correction necessary

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726915
>if you are anti male collabs that makes you a homobeggar!
Don't you have that a little backwards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726992
t. homobeggar

[Anonymous No.]

>>45719825
she is a femcel she hates male

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726814

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726939
Kanata was never going to talk with males anyways, so nothing was lost, and holoan shit on everything Cover does so its just piss in an ocean of piss.

[Anonymous No.]

I think NO MALE rule is reasonable, as Twitch drama is often about problem in relationships between the sexes.
In fact, I got so fed up with it that I stopped watching Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726939
One guy spamming threads about this on a Taiwanese crab fishing forum is not going to have any impact on anything, as much as you wish it did

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726939
if you hate the fact that Kanata is a unicorn who avoids male collabs because that's what she believes you should just state it outright instead of roundabout way shitting on Kanata as you're doing now

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727005
i will spell it nicely for you
homobeggar = hate unicorn
anti = hate hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727005
>homobeggar
see >>45726225

[Anonymous No.]

This situation is getting bigger for no reason.
Kanata need to learn to ignore bait and stop ego searching on fucking 5ch.
Sometime the best course of action like her manager said is to shut the fuck up, She's one of my favorite but what a way to add oil on a light flame.
Pekora,Sakamata dont collab with guys either and they didnt make a big deal out of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720594
Because she owned the homobeggar and they are seeking for revange and they are as always pure shit people who make unicorn look like saints.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727067
>>45727071
Interesting cope. Perhaps you need a unicorn hugbox if you want to run away from criticism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726992
The consequences of not getting fucked by Coco anymore have been disastrous on this girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726880
>Why can't these women that don't collab with men just ignore them and not say anything about it?
"How dare she not acknowledge her coworkers" was a pretty common sentiment among the homobeggars when tempus debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726094
An actual unicorn wants purity, a regular gachikoi will usually not care about her history, only her current self, evidence of prior dating is irrelevant as long as she's not right now, and the idolfag may or may not care about any of this, it's unrelated.
the larping /vt/ cuck will hide behind the iconography of cultures they do not understand to mean "I don't want to see a male avatar on screen even if I'm well aware she's sucking cock on the regular". It is bizarre. But they're not unicorns. They're just faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727120
There is no situation, she talked to heimin about it (twice) and everyone is happy with her explanation
There's just one guy who's really determined to find any sort of hololive "yab" who will spam threads about this until the next ebin drama comes up

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726992
go back normalfag
you're not welcome here

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727120
see>>45722127

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726225
/vt/ also watered unicorn down and it now means 'someone who doesn't want to see men on stream'

[Anonymous No.]

NONE OF YOU FAGGOTS HAVE EVEN EXPLAINED WHATS IN THIS EVENT.
THEY COULD NOT EVEN INTERACT WITH ANY MALES. YOU PEOPLE ARE RETARDS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727067
If it was one guy making drama out of a nothingburger then Kanata wouldn't have had to do a whole Twitter space begging for forgiveness and then follow it up with a member stream crying and apologizing and swearing to quit Hololive if it ever happens again.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking give up, not touching these threads again
No one reads or knows Japanese, might as well hibernate until next sekiro stream, still excited to see her fight my favorite boss

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727226
literally 0 people have any idea what they're talking about and 0 people have checked the previous MC JP event where none of the teams interacted and none of them talked

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727186
>she talked to heimin about it (twice)
Which she wouldn't have done unless there was a situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727207
wasn't this the stateus quo from long ago
/vt/ unicorn
reddit homobeggar
twitter trannies

[Anonymous No.]

>>45721812
I don't really care for male vtubers but collabing with them has never hurt my viewpoint on the girls.
Of course there are a lot of people who get super autistic about this sort of thing, which is why you always see them bitching out when it happens. Same thing happens in any fandom, just look at Sonic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727301
Yes, there was a situation (Kanata read one comment on 5ch and got upset about it like she does every week) and there is now no situation, because time has passed and circumstances have changed

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726992
she IS a mentally ill retard, is this supposed to be new information for anyone?

[Anonymous No.]

the only people seething at this point are trannies who don't like the existence of the rule that Kanatan will follow until the graduation

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727175
Fucking newfag, /vt/ doesn't know the difference between gachikoi and unicorn

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727342
Kanata is one of those "super autistic" fans who loses respect for girls who collab with males. Why do you hate Kanata?

[Anonymous No.]

i guess it's also Kanata's fault for giving this nothingburger her attention..

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726147
You realize you just accidentally admitted the people shitposting about this aren't her viewers right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727397
Well according to the retards in this thread, you're a homobeggar for pointing that fact out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727164
And? ignore that shit too, especially since most of those complains are coming from western fans.
Like not even idol shit, in normal jobs there are people who don't acknowledge everyone they work with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727412
No, they're seething because Kanata broke her rule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727186
Maybe your right,I understand her frustration getting your fanbase clowned on the internet certainly doesnt feel good for her but if we really had no situation talking about it is even more of a bad choice wouldnt you agree?Shit she wouldnt be getting emotional about it if the thing she read didnt affect her.
In short what im trying to say is that she should avoid letting her Anti get in her mind like that. Easier said than done for sure but reducing the ego search might be a good first step.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727263
what's your favorite boss, faggot? for me, it's Great Shinobi Owl
also excited to see if she can read hairui on the spot, so far only Koyori (of all people) managed, kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727520
>>45727226

[Anonymous No.]

>Demanding Diverse Japanese Vtubers Become Uniform Twitch Whores.
Since when did Twitchidren become communists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45722049
>not even 2k
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727520
she didn't break the rule and she explained in mengen and twitter post how that rule still applies
are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727186
>everyone is happy with her explanation
Kanata herself acknowledged and there will probably be people who are not happy with it. Some actual fans were upset over it and this event does land very close to the line between real competition with nothing but impersonal interactions with other competitors, and a large collaboration where everyone acknowledges each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727533
Literally everyone (heimin, her manager, other hololive members like Marine) has been telling her to cut down on the egosa and stop letting people get in her head every 5 minutes for the last year, at this point it's just a thing you have to accept will happen if you watch her

[Anonymous No.]

Heimin will say this male collab doesn't count and then turn around and spam 50 threads about how the EN girls are all whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727547
Guardian ape, I think I perfected the way to fight it after he destroyed me on my first playthrough and now I love fighting it every time

[Anonymous No.]

I am totally fine with mixed gender collabs and while I dont agree with kanata position about no males I totally respect that(tho I think her posture is bit extremist) but why people are seething for a minecraft collab, she is going to obviously only talk with the other holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727339
It was never the status quo. Everyone loves posting MTL screencaps from 5ch where they post the emojis but they never changed the defnition. The change only happened here because cucked fans still wanted to call themselves by a word as gay as unicorn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727654
this but unironically considering she will literally not talk to any of them during before and after event

[Anonymous No.]

The ones that force GFE the hardest are always the ones that actually have boyfriends. The fact SEAfriends and Japanese fans fail to see this after Rushia is peak cognitive dissonance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727448
I find it really hard to believe Kanata doesn't respect Sora or AZKi. I think you're projecting a little here.
Not wanting to consume something and not respecting the people making it are two entirely different things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727776
Oh no... Noel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727776
Kanata is extremely obviously and aggressively homosexual anon

[Anonymous No.]

It's unironically over. Sorry Heimin, but I can't use glitter and magic to change the reality that antis are going to build up because of this move.
Now, call me a homobeggar, like standard procedure.

[Anonymous No.]

>Yeah his penis is inside her but it's OK because they're not talking while they fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727622
Marine would encourage male collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727711
oh, man, this fight is fucking incredible. that fakeout will never work ever again but it was amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727717
Read the thread you dumbass. Nobody is seething outside of the anti-unicorn crowd who are shitting on Kanata for having that stance and calling "unicorns" hypocrites for being happy with her response. Where the fuck do people keep coming into the thread and replying with the same response?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720594
Because she was the only enough retarded yo bend the knee to the schizos. Instead of bullshiting her way or polite decline to answer, she impose to herself a very ridicule standard of not being near of any m*le ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727832
her position was always the same nothing changed and the way she acts didn't change you moron

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727904
I think the fact that Kanata is having a schizophrenic meltdown in member's streams out of fear her fans will crucify her for being within 50 meters of a male is proof enough.

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>>45721091
eh, still not in the top 5 in her company. she doesn't have to do this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727957
It was never stated that she changed her stance

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>>45727857
try harder homobeggar

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>>45727936
you're wrong
she's herself the schizo and based one for that

[Anonymous No.]

Like this retard >>45727936. This is like the 20th fucking person to show up and claim Kanata is being hounded by unicorn schizos and held at gunpoint over something she has reiterated to be her own personal beliefs over and over again. If you want to call Kanata a schizo just do it. The fuck is this post.

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>>45727936
You didn't even watch the clip of her saying that where she explained it's because she personally believes idols shouldn't talk to men and wants to hold herself to the standard she applies to others
Kanata IS the unicorn

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>>45727904
Yes the pro unicorn and Kanata crow spamming "homobeggar" and any other insult they can find are absolutely the calm and collected ones in this thread, in fact them even adressing it shows how much of a "nothing burger" this truly is.

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>>45721091
eh, still not in the top 5 in her company. she doesn't have to do this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45727985
Anon, Kanata has meltdowns over literally everything.
Kanata had a fucking meltdown over Kanata being in a collab that Kanata organized.

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>>45724188
in the olden days on this board she would get called based for it
now she's attacked by anons
what happened

[Anonymous No.]

Woah another thread about this bullshit, I'm sure OP is not the same faggot who has been constantly making new thread about this and trying his hardest to make it into a huge thing when it is not

[Anonymous No.]

>>45728216
There's more hololive antis, and since hololive hasn't had an actual yab for over a year they are increasingly desperate to find things to seethe about

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>>45727936
These retards will seethe at any other girl declaring a anti-unicorn stance, but when THEIR girl declares a pro-unicorn stance, it's suddenly 100% free choice.

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>>45720719
Nice falseflag sister but she is still not collabing with your faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>45728216
Taking part in this event makes her seem unreasonable.

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>>45728317
Way to get em sister she's not collabing with her faggots but some other random faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>45728350
she admitted she was wrong to take it, but will ensure the rule is unbroken
what's the problem

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>>45728159
>why are Heimin seething [[[at Kanata over this minecraft event]]]
>they aren't [[[seething at Kanata]]], Kanata antis are [[[over this event because they see her as a hypocrite]]]
>oh they're not seething [[[at Kansta over the minecraft collab?]]] then why are they mad [[[at the antis in this thread]]]
???

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>>45728454
I explained why this is happening you fucking idiot. Why did you ask if you didn't want an answer?

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>>45722468
She was never sane even durango the Coco days. You are talking about a girl that smashed her hand to feel the relief of someone talking care of her.

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>>45727985
>out of fear
Holy shit Oboretai is actually here.

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>>45728552
He made the other thread too

[Anonymous No.]

>>45728552
It would make sense, this is an anti thread and he is a hololive anti

[Anonymous No.]

Since this thread is so popular I'm sure the faggot OP is going to try to keep making new ones over the next 2 days trying his hardest to keep manufacture drama out of thin air

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>>45728216
She would be based if she actually followed through on not collabing with males, she loses that status when she does it anyways and makes excuses for it afterwards.

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>>45728695
that's already been happening, this is the nth one

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>>45728552
He will never make it big as a VN writer if he keeps wasting his time as a Holo anti...

[Anonymous No.]

Unicorns proven once again how mentally deranged they are. Males collab should be completely fine unless you are mentally ill but looking at this thread, that doesn't seem to be the case

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>>45724019
Your logic already retarded, according to your logic she wouldn't be working with anyone because guess what, even flesh group idol have MALE manager. She make her boundaries, you faggot bring in absolute in everything.

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>>45725816
>>45722139
>>45721221
>>45721144
Laplus didn't do that either, threadreaders.

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>>45728790
(you)

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>>45728790
>Unicorns
Anon, they're beggar larpers. You got baited.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45728790
Every single post like this is a backhanded way to shit on Kanata, just so newcomers know.

[Anonymous No.]

if Kanata is so against men, why does she have mostly male fans?

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>>45728739
if she doesn't talk to males it literally isn't a collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>45728739
>t homobegger/larper

[Anonymous No.]

>>45728971
because she fell for pure idol meme and her dyke genes only enforced it

[Anonymous No.]

>>45728832
Yes she did, she said she wouldn't want to see other guys mixed up with girls. There is even a clip for your uninformed self that you can search up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45728832
Yes she did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726814
The irony in this singular post is so ironic, I can almost taste it. The sweet, SWEET, irony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45728552
>isreal

[Anonymous No.]

>>45729115
>>45729125
>doesn't understand jokes

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The only thing this thread has proved to me, is that Kanata is a massive retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45729145
>vtuber board
>homobeggar faggot talk about rm stuff
Why doxx faggot like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>mentally deranged unicorn fanbase forcing talent to make a statement
What more pathetic? The fact that these people exist, or the fact that people actually think there is nothing wrong with this?

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>>45728893
So far all I've even seen in the thread from the actual pro-"unicorn" side is people saying they're happy with Kanata's stance and transparency, calling her based for her mengen, while everyone else is talking about some massive "unicorn outrage" and either directly calling Kanata a schizo menhera retard or doing it indirectly by circling back to the "unicorns".

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>>45729220
Well you suck at making jokes. Anons in /vt/ say that kind of stuff unironically.

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>>45728138
>hold herself to the standard she applies to others

So you didn’t watch the clip and just read what others said about the clip. She doesn’t hold that standard to anyone but herself.

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>>45729252
If you don't think Kanata is a schizo menhera retard then you aren't a real heimin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45729250
>t. Obo "women have no agency or beliefs. their thoughts and opinions are entirely at the whims of the men who control them" retai

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>>45728552
>Oboretai
oh wow so its a manufactured anti thread which purpose is to get reactive (you)s from schizos. how am i not surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45729321
It's not for the reason people keep posting though

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>>45724188
>Her manager told her to ignore everything but she feels that she wants to talk
Typical menhera behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45729252
She IS a schizo menhera, that's why her fanbase loves her as much as they do

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>>45729342
Just stop replying when he inevitably makes like 9 new threads because this one got to bump limit

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>>45729321
I do think that, and I don't think there's anything wrong with it. The shit this thread is having a sperg attack and attacking her for is a bad excuse to shit on her, though.

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>>45729252
Your blindness is real. What about all the "homobeggar" accusations towards people who are not begging for homo collabs?

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>>45729266
no, it was a joke when she said it.

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>>45729515
I don't see them attacking Kanata tho?

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>>45729220
If it was juat a joke why doesn't she collab with the guys she plays with? Why did she hide that she played with regis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45729515
EOP Kanata antis are either homobeggars still asshurt about her no-male collab clip or general Holo antis. Pick your poison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45729515
>okay they're not shitting on Kanata but they're being mean to ME :((( this is why I hate unicorn incels :(((

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>>45729250
you do know that she herself is harder on herself for even the possibility of make appearing on her streams more than her fans right? literally no one is forcing her to take anti male stance but she sticks to it nonetheless, it was always like this

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>>45729636
Are you serious right now? Did the homobeggars make Kanata cry, or was it the unicorns?
Answer me honestly, but you won't.

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>>45729874
It's actually neither of those, it's Kanata reading a single holoan post and thinking it's the most important piece of feedback in the world
This happens basically every week

[Anonymous No.]

why does she hates men in the first place and why is her fanbase okay with it? us she a misandrist?

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>>45729874
Neither, Kanata and Kanata's antis made Kanata cry you dumbshit. I KNOW for a fact you don't watch her because this has been going on since her debut and the "leech" days.

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>>45730033
She's a lesbian idolfag.

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>>45730033
>why does she hates men in the first place and why is her fanbase okay with it?
She doesn't, she hates you specifically. Her fanbase is okay with it because they also hate you specifically.
>us she a misandrist?
Only towards you.

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>Unicorns
>make talent fear for their life
>held talent hostage with their money
>force talent to restrict their social interaction
>put talent under heavy pressures to keep up the act
>deflect the blame to others when they are the one responsible for making talent sad/cry
>only come back is to call others beggars and antis
Anyone with a brain can see how much of a baggage these people are, they are the biggest cancer in the internet and vtubing, especially Hololive has too many of them

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>>45730434
t. shitboretai

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>>45730434
You should spend your time getting better at writing VNs instead of writing schizo posts on 4chan oboretai

[Anonymous No.]

>>45730434
don't you get tired of shitposting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720681
>>chloe
>vshojo-level slut, so it's not a big deal
She is a classy oiran, that knows how to excite her viewers, not a street walker like vshojo that talk about how many dicks they sucked on every stream

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>>45724584
No, Gura gets away with everything because she refuses to acknowledge or otherwise tiptoes around drama and topics like homobeggars
The only way I see her interacting the homos is if it's some retarded management mandate, both because she has no interest in them and also she knows the shitstorm that will result
If she is forced to acknowledge them, she'd probably follow Fauna's example: https://files.catbox.moe/3xb75k.ogg
The fact that Gura barely uses twitter and ghosts so often also helps provide cover (heh) for her

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>>45728790
Stop calling Kanata mentally deranged

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>>45730434
You'd fit right in with the psychos that get laughed at on megami!

[Anonymous No.]

>>45731205
But she is mentally ill. She is her worst enemy always.

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>>45729266
but that would make it a good joke.

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>>45728937
that's fine, she sucks.

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>>45724188
nazuna doesn't pass this checklist lol

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Honestly? Maybe it's for the best if Kanata graduates. Just getting her schizo fans out of vtubing is a net benefit for Hololive and vtubing in general. Otherwise this meltdown will just happen again and again. Rip off the band-aid and let the girls collab with who they want instead of trying to control their lives like psychopaths.

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>>45731205
Apologizing because you have to interact with your boss who happens to be male... is not a sign of a mentally stable person.

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>>45732056
why do you hate Kanata? just because she wants to avoid males doesn't mean you should hate her

[Anonymous No.]

>>45732193
no one in Hololive or vtubing in general is stable
some just hide it better

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>>45732056
I actually agree, it’s her fault to begin with, she can just also bail out and stuck in her own world until vtubing dies, or she can just graduate and make her own brand and company where the employees are females only. But we are all know that she’s nothing but a talentless half deaf leech whose entire career revolves around being Coco, Suisei and Marine sidekick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45728982
the event has males, it's still a collab.

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>>45732502
LOL

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>>45732056
>Otherwise this meltdown will just happen again and again
Why should heimins be held accountable for homobeggar meltdowns?

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>>45723639
>Producers, mixers, partnerships with people of all variety and even big inter-company deals that have a shit ton of money on the line
Unicorns don't complain about any of this

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>>45732502
should just do like some other chuuba companies do it where it is clearly stated and is no ambiguity

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>>45724188
You posted wrong pic you dumb nigger.

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>>45720719
people might call you bot or homobeggar because they are afraid you are right.(homobegger has nothing to do with this ffs)
This whole thing is so dumb, she could've just decline or just ignore antis and schizo, instead keep doubling down.
hell even Chloe, a GFE and gachi pandering chuuba didn't make a fuss about it.
her meltdown in mengen will definitely bite her in the future, now schizo nip antis has ammo.

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>>45732804
Unfortunately, hololive doesn't ban males collab so she should go ahead and do it herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>45732502
You replying this everywhere isn't going to make it true. You can scream, seethe, and cope all you want but Kanata is very talented and her career has been successful for a while now doing almost everything solo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45732834
how is this new ammo when her position was always expressed verbally and clearly on this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIQdGYmkNco

[Anonymous No.]

>>45732834
Well, this will definitely give her a good lesson to not feed the trolls

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720719
You can't blame management you know, Kanata can just refuse but she didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>45733005
successful at what exactly? successfully being an idiot and terminally mentally ill retard on the internet pandering to the lowest of the lowest subhuman? What exactly is she successful at heimin name one of her achievements.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45733257
eat shit and die beggerfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>45733397
>points out Kanata is a talentless hack
>no argument instead calling people homobeggar

[Anonymous No.]

>>45732805
Then why is the guy that the other anon replied to throwing such a temper tantrum over it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45730434
nice one novel a.i

[Anonymous No.]

>>45733257
Where do you want to start?
The games she played recently maybe? We can talk about her having one of the most viewed vtuber Dark Souls streams in history perhaps (only topped in views by Nijisanji's 2nd most popular vtuber).

Make sure to reply without crying.

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>>45733016
Because she is still doing the same activity with males. No same VC? No interactions? Doesn't matter, those are cope and doesn't change the fact that she's in the same event with males, which goes against her no-male policy.
THAT is the new ammo, and it doesn't matter if you disagree, antis can use it to mentally break down Kanata.

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>>45733257
Singing and building an audience without needing to rely on anyone. She had a very successful 3d live concert that she did completely solo while having one of the best and most memorable performances in hololive. She's released ALOT of covers. She's been MCing for hololive events like the new years event and HoloFes. (The other anon is not me)

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>>45733639
>In history
Nta, but slow your roll there bucko, Kanata may have had a high viewer count as far as Vtubers go, but she's nowhere near as being the highest for Dark Souls

That's a completely separate niche.
T. Soulsfag

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>>45733820
My man, please parse the "vtuber" right in the middle there specifying exactly that.
No Vtubers can compete with normal streamers. Niji koshien barely pulls numbers that some fleshy streamers get while broadcasting debuff content.

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>>45727186
Maybe she should stop letting antis and schizo rent free in her head? or just stop egosa on fucking 5ch/sukikirai/matome? or you know fucking IGNORE whole things just like her managaer told her to?
she could've just stopped on ''dont worry we're not on the same VC" instead she doubling down having meltdown on mengen that definitely not going to be used by her antis.
It's fucking hilarious seeing heimin just attack people who call out Kanata retardation as homobeggar. your oshi are the one who make big deal out of this

[Anonymous No.]

>genuinely mentally ill niggers itt
And that's why abortion rights are so important!

[Anonymous No.]

>>45720719
>>45700219
>She trusts the manager so she accepted the event but she should have checked more

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>>45733016
jesus you cannot be this RETARDED right? do you think antis fucking care about that? and like >>45733696 said antis will use that to attack her that it just cope and she's lying, on top Kanata being fucking menhera she is, she just can't stop letting negativity on her head and keep feeding troll attention. then again I shouldn't expect someone whose oshi is Rushia, another menhera.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45726476
Kiara? Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>45734825
You just outed yourself.