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Nijisisters... We failed...

>> No.45220068

>>45220029
why are there like 10 posts about this guy? is this advertising?

>> No.45220090

jannies pls ban these dumbass newstuber dramatuber faggot posters.

>> No.45220280

>>45220068
>niji tries to take down dramatubers with false dmcas and fail
>nijifags sperg out over the hex dildo thing and tell everyone that mentions it to stop talking about it
>now anons are spamming both because niji and nijifags want both ignored
This is the reason.

>> No.45220314

>>45220090
False is actually pretty good.

>> No.45220341

>>45220029
TAKE THIS POST DOWN RIGHT NOW

>> No.45220353

>whips it out
>exposes his tool
Well, at least he got some mileage out of it.

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>>45220029
CHINKSISTERS NOT LIKE THIS

>> No.45221298

You know I just realized that the only good news Nijien has comes from a charity case from tempus
Kek

>> No.45221648

>>45220483
is that big chungus?

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>>45220029
LMAO

>> No.45223354

>>45221298
what?

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>>45223300

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>> No.45223747

>>45223433
Imagine a world where a rape joke is more "damaging" and in need of a termination than the literal dildo in a sex dungeon.

>> No.45224080

>>45223747
An unfinished rape joke that was mostly her babbling incoherently at that.

>> No.45224125

>>45220280
yes.. nijifags anon, not exclusively hex fans

>> No.45224187

>>45223747
>>45224080
yeah.. she was temrinated because of a rape joke that appeared over a month after her stealth suspension, not beacuse of the many reasons they said and for not wanting to improve after being warned.. makes sense.

>> No.45224202

>>45223300
Based indgod

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>>45220029
Funny how Sicklings don't know about the Streissand effect.

>> No.45224214

>>45224187
If it wasn't the reason it didn't need to be included.

>> No.45224300

>>45224214
good thing it wasnt the only thing included, then, and the termination notice mentioned how not wanting to improve after two suspensions and one training didnt change anything

>> No.45224317

>>45224300
Your reading comprehension is atrocious.

>> No.45224466

>>45224317
not as much as yours, considering how you can't interpret how her not wanting to follow the rules, including internal ones, is the reason and the main point of the termination

>> No.45224522

>>45224466
I'll speak in simpler words to help you out. If thingy no matter no talk about thingy.

>> No.45224561

>>45224466
That being to smear a talent with a bullshit list instead of sticking with the supposed actual reason for the termination?

>> No.45224601

>>45224522
ill simplify to you: its one out of many examples, the unwilingly to cooperate is the main point of the entire thing to not want to work with her anymore

>> No.45224684

>>45224561
not a bullshit list when most of them are reasonable examples with the rest of the text pointing out how the main issue with those arent them happening but the unwillingness to change the actions after being suspended and going into training to not do it again

>> No.45224922

>>45224684
You're a stupid ass nijinigger I see. How is a raid shadow legends joke a reasonable example? When everything that's public is a fucking joke, why do you feel the need to suck the black company cock? It's simple really, make a list that lies and misrepresent what happened to smear. A normal company would have just said, "due to multiple infractions and failure to improve."

>> No.45225013

>>45224601
Considering the termination list includes shit she did after she was already fired... No I'm calling bullshit. See the thing you are apparently unaware of is that they actually shut down her streamlabs page DURING the suspension, proving she was actually terminated early. It was only after that point she started liking comments on youtube. Yet somehow that made it to the list of reasons why she was fired. How strange.

You see, I'm not arguing that she was a good fit for the company. I'm not arguing that they weren't within their rights to fire her. I'm arguing they went out of their way to do it maliciously. Not a single person has been able to prove otherwise, and you won't be able to either. Why? Because the standard notice for a termination is "Due to internal disagreements with X, we have decided to terminate their contract effective immediately". That's it. No mudslinging.

You certainly don't first post a suspension notice that leads to your employee getting doxxed and harassed and then fail to release any sort of statement discouraging it either. These are very simple things they could have done to prove they were acting in good faith. Spend a little effort discouraging harassment, spend LESS effort by writing a shorter termination notice. Everything is Kosher. But no. They couldn't do that.

>> No.45225157

>>45224922
Pretty sure a black company would make the statement as vague as possible. Meanwhile actual companies like sports organizations and top500 companies list all infractions. Quitt getting angry because you're losing the argument and only have speculation and rumors as evidence.

>> No.45225199

>>45220314
roru
rumao even

>> No.45225287

>>45225157
They don't because they don't want to be sued, you stupid nigger.

>> No.45225360

>>45225157
I’m pretty sure “actual companies” don’t encourage their customers to dox and harass anyone who gets fired from the company.

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Why didnt we finish him off when we had the chance...

>> No.45225447

>>45223300
Kek

>> No.45225476

>>45223300
KEK

>> No.45225683

>>45225157
You don't seem to understand how Japanese black companies operate. See, the first thing you need to know is that they treat you unfairly. Obviously, right? But then you ask yourself "Okay, if they are treating me unfairly, don't I just leave?" And therein lies the catch. They have multiple filters to stop people from leaving:
Firstly, you are under contract. This contract carries penalties for you leaving. That's not bad in and of itself, but that's just the start.
Secondly, if you try to leave anyway, they will slander the ever loving fuck out of you to make sure you don't get to work in that industry again. You see, in Japan, interviews look very heavily at your past job experience. There is a LOT of weight given to the words of your previous employer when you try to get hired somewhere. You are also under NDA so you can't speak your side of the story to clear your name.

Now you might think, "Oh well that's just pointless spite that doesn't actually help them, because the person is still gone anyway". Wrong. See they aren't doing it just out of spite. They have a very simple motive. To keep employees trapped. They make an example out of one person to keep the rest in line. If one person gets tarred and feathered, anyone else thinking about leaving is going to think twice, yeah? That's why people in the blackest companies often turn to suicide. They know if they quit their life is over anyway. Now I'm not saying Anycolor is the blackest of the black. Absolutely not. But they definitely take some pages from the playbook. Yugo made the branch look real bad when they left and ended up more successful as an indie. Can't have that happen again.

>> No.45225830

>>45223433
Sounds like the company has doppio standards

>> No.45226004

>>45225683
You're not making sense. You're talking about a company trapping someone when this is about terminating a member. Then you bring up yugo who was already a successful content creator before niji, leaving niji and.. becoming a successful content creator? This must be some schizo shit you picked up from the catalog. It's like nfl players crying about getting suspended over marijuana when it's legal in their state but can't understand it's illegal in the nfl

>> No.45226095

>>45226004
Nijiniggers can't fucking read, "They make an example out of one person to keep the rest in line." The example in the Zaion situation is Zaion herself.

>> No.45226179

>>45225157
>a black company would make the statement as vague as possible
yeah, nah.
if you want to see how a real black company does shit look at how Wactor has been handling their problems over the last year

>> No.45226199

>>45226095
You're a dunce trying to pass off an opinion as a fact, lmao

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>>45225390
watch yourself Enna

>> No.45226306

>>45226004
>You're talking about a company trapping someone when this is about terminating a member.
Then try rereading it slowly. You make an example out of one person to keep the rest in line. That's why her termination notice was so abnormal compared to the standard. They made an example out of Zaion to show the rest of the livers what happens. Fuck around and find out, get it?
>Then you bring up yugo who was already a successful content creator before niji, leaving niji and.. becoming a successful content creator?
The problem with Yugo is that they were less successful WHILE BEING PART of NijiEN. That makes NijiEN look like the reason they weren't successful. What kind of ideas does something like that plant into the heads of current employees? "Hmm, maybe I would be more successful on my own too..."
>It's like nfl players crying about getting suspended over marijuana when it's legal in their state but can't understand it's illegal in the nfl
Please stop trying to turn this into an argument about whether she SHOULD have been fired when I have, at no point, made the claim she shouldn't have been. It's bad form to put words in someone's mouth like that. The issue is that they went out of their way to terminate her IN A MALICIOUS MANNER. You still haven't argued against this point whatsoever.

>> No.45226523

>>45226306
>Then try rereading it slowly. You make an example out of one person to keep the rest in line. That's why her termination notice was so abnormal compared to the standard. They made an example out of Zaion to show the rest of the livers what happens. Fuck around and find out, get it?
this is an opinion
>The problem with Yugo is that they were less successful WHILE BEING PART of NijiEN. That makes NijiEN look like the reason they weren't successful. What kind of ideas does something like that plant into the heads of current employees? "Hmm, maybe I would be more successful on my own too..."
also an opinion
>Please stop trying to turn this into an argument about whether she SHOULD have been fired when I have, at no point, made the claim she shouldn't have been. It's bad form to put words in someone's mouth like that. The issue is that they went out of their way to terminate her IN A MALICIOUS MANNER. You still haven't argued against this point whatsoever.
your entire argument is flawed and based on feelings. You're in no state to tell what people can or can't do in a discussion. The last sentence is also a comparison and not "putting words" in your mouth because nobody claimed you said those things. The reply wasn't even aimed at whatever point you brought up. Quit getting angry and emotional

>> No.45226588

>>45226523
You have repeatedly avoided actually debating the topic and so I accept your concession.

>> No.45226648

>>45226588
I won but ok.

>> No.45226688

If only you Nijiniggers can take your own advice and stop defending a black company because you feel emotionally attached to the company for some retarded reason.

>> No.45226728

>>45226688
Nijifags oshi is the company, please andastan

>> No.45226751

>>45226648
You attempted to attack my character rather than the argument of "They put in extra effort to make a malicious termination notice". Your debate skills are laughable and you should, quite frankly, return to school.

>> No.45226792

>>45226688
the ghosts of coco, rushia, artia, aloe, sana still exist and didn't disappear in the ether. Where are their fans that supposedly supported them now?

>> No.45226823

>>45226256
Wtf? I didn't know she was a gamer.

>> No.45226863

>>45226751
It's not an attack when your statement was already false and an opinion. It's not everyone else's fault you were fed exaggerated and wrong information then get angry because people aren't your schizo buddies. Sit down.

>> No.45226868

>>45226792
>Where are their fans that supposedly supported them now
>coco, rushia
Probably watching them?
>artia
She shills crypto now, so you tell me.
>aloe
Watching her.
>sana
She bailed of her own volition and doesn't stream anymore. She still has people making daily threads though.

>> No.45226917

>>45225683
Funny you say that and none of that happened in JP, you know, the branch with actual JP management. only two members were terminated and the ones who graduated did by their own accord with no problems. your theory kind goes to hell with it..

>> No.45226945

>>45226792
Why are you bringing up fans of graduated vtubers when the point is how Nijiniggers can't help but suck a company's dick?

>> No.45226952

>>45226868
they have maybe 1/5th of the viewers. Their former company's fans obviously don't support them

>> No.45226959

Haha remember when Zaion was fired for putting sex toys on stream? Oh wait she never did that or anything close to it.

>> No.45226974

>>45225683
>Now you might think, "Oh well that's just pointless spite that doesn't actually help them, because the person is still gone anyway". Wrong. See they aren't doing it just out of spite. They have a very simple motive. To keep employees trapped. They make an example out of one person to keep the rest in line. If one person gets tarred and feathered, anyone else thinking about leaving is going to think twice, yeah? That's why people in the blackest companies often turn to suicide. They know if they quit their life is over anyway. Now I'm not saying Anycolor is the blackest of the black. Absolutely not. But they definitely take some pages from the playbook. Yugo made the branch look real bad when they left and ended up more successful as an indie. Can't have that happen again.
I can bet with you that NijiEN will have graduations in the future without any problem when most of them dont have the problems zaion did. nijisanji had what 50 or more graduations? and none of them had the company doing anything against them, even the ones with disagreement like melissa or mayuzumi

>> No.45227027

>>45226917
Okay? Are we talking about NijiJP or NijiEN? Why bring up NijiJP?

>> No.45227084

>>45226863
>It's not an attack when your statement was already false and an opinion
You claim falsehood but offer nothing else. Your argument is the equivalent of a child going "Nuh-uh"
>It's not everyone else's fault you were fed exaggerated and wrong information then get angry because people aren't your schizo buddies
This is yet another attack to my character.
>Sit down.
Childish behavior. Please don't pretend to have authority over other people on an online image board. It's laughable.
>>45226917
>Funny you say that and none of that happened in JP,
Great. Happy that Nijisanji proper is doing well. Doesn't change the fact that NijiEN is a shitshow though.
>you know, the branch with actual JP management.
Perhaps the difference in management is the issue. Though I'm pretty sure NijiEN also has Japanese managers since Mysta mentioned them in the past.

>> No.45227091

>>45226945
why are you getting angry that another black company doesn't support their vtubers? Does this black company have some sentimental value to you?

>> No.45227097

>>45226945
when are you holofags going to understand nijifans dont "suck" anykara?
showing you their financials is showing you proof that the company is doing well, unlike the narratives you all spread over the years about how the company was going to die
its also to show how members of EN and JP, the branches showing distribution of costs, make money on things outside of superchat, including voice packs, sponsorship and other sources of money
and ageeeing with a termination dont mean you suck them
like holy shit guys is it hard to accept that nijisanji fans criticize anykara for what they think its right and jut beucase in some subjects we disagreew ith you it means we suck it? most of us just try to prove what happens, not like we ignore actual shit like id and kr or in failing as branches and post merger those two branches being left out
if only you guys had dialogue and werent so hostile to nijisanji itself and nijifans

>> No.45227125

>>45226256
She won't be saying Kyo eats fried chicken anymore

>> No.45227130

>>45226959
Remember that one time she used a BDSM rape dungeon as her stream background? Oh wait, wasn't her either.

>> No.45227147

>>45227084
maybe so, maybe its because of different management between jp and en
although im on th opinion the termination is fair even if not 100% well handled, imo not because of what you said but in reaction to the backlash they got from barely giving any details why yugo left

>> No.45227158

>>45227084
I offered that your information was false and then you attack my character. Please don't argue when you don't have the mental capacity. It's truly embarrassing.

>> No.45227179

>>45226959
Haha don't forget the stream wasn't age restricted either!

>> No.45227190

>>45227027
en, but he mentioned jp tactics, so thats why i mentioned jp, the oriignal branch

>> No.45227228

>>45227130
tomoe has done that for years without problem

>> No.45227277

>>45227091
>Why do you care if a company is a black company who is willing to lie, abuse, play favorites, and be a mess in general.
God dick ride Color some more, would you?
>>45227158
Says that faggot who keeps going, "why so emotional?"
>>45227097
Nigga, I ain't a holofag. I'm not married to an agency like you fuckers.

>> No.45227319

>>45227097
>showing you their financials is showing you proof that the company is doing well, unlike the narratives you all spread over the years about how the company was going to die
You know, I think can actually kind of explain this. It's all about reputation.
When Cover is doing well, people celebrate because they "know" a company that heavily reinvests in their talents and takes care of them is succeeding. You know, Good Things.
When Cover does poorly people feel bad because said company isn't.

When Anycolor does poorly, they see it as a bad company that treats employees like dirt getting its comeuppance.
Likely when they do well it's just another example of a cruel company succeeding.

>> No.45227367

>>45227277
Pure spergout material. All it took was to bring up graduated blue dorito vtuber's average viewer count. Black companies should be ridiculed, right

>> No.45227417

>>45227158
>I offered that your information was false
I'm sorry, that post must have gotten lost in the mail. Could you resend it please?
>then you attack my character
I didn't attack your character, I admonished your actions. There is a difference. If I had called you a child because of your childish actions, THAT would be attacking your character. Does that clear it up? Good.

Now kindly get back to the topic of "The methods used in Zaion's termination notice are unnecessarily malicious". Or leave. Either way is fine with me.

>> No.45227467

>>45227097
you arent showing financials, you're showing revenue because you're brainlets who dont understand basic accounting

>> No.45227477

>>45220029
Can you women stop spamming this board with your dildo shit already? It was a bit funny when hex did it as a joke but the overreaction from all of you is just annoying.

>> No.45227491

>>45227367
What the fuck you talking about, you legit ESL or something?

>> No.45227554

>>45227417
Pretty sure the topic how ridiculous your spiel on black companies was. How about you get back to that topic or leave?

>> No.45227751

>Acting like only Holofags are allowed to shit on color.
I think I understand now why Nijiniggers need to defend the company to their dying breath. You got buck broken by the Holofags. Too bad for you, but I watch mostly phase and friends, so your holocope is just that, a cope.

>> No.45227753

>>45227554
>Pretty sure the topic how ridiculous your spiel on black companies was.
I now understand the issue. You came into the argument during the middle and didn't read previous posts. The "spiel", as you called it, on how black companies operate was an explanation for WHY said termination notice was intentionally malicious. It was an argument towards my point. It was not the point itself. Clearly. Not that you actually argued against black companies operating that way anyway... In fact you haven't actually made any arguments at all. Are you sure you are up for this? We can do it another day if you like.

>> No.45227757

>>45227319
>When Anycolor does poorly, they see it as a bad company that treats employees like dirt getting its comeuppance.
Look I'm always going to agree on ID and KR because those dont even have basic merchandise for anniversary and birthday, among other problems. 100% im going to be on your side about that. But JP and EN? two successful branches? with many members in there who are full time streamers who abandoned their old job to become streamers in EN alone? with like what over 80 members in JP renewing contracts 2 years after 2 years? the evidence shows that
im not saying en and jp are perfect branches or have perfect management, but the way you all say like those vtubers dont make money just isnt true with the evidence they provide on living off that venture and their own spending in their channel and other products
hope i explained myself as a nijifan and my stance as one. i dont care about anykara as a company, like most nijifans dont, but we also will point out and correct wrong things said or exaggerations like i mentioned before
>>45227467
revenue is a part of a financial brief..

>> No.45227844

>>45227757
Am >45227319
I'm not actually saying I agree with all of it. I'm just saying that's the general mood of the board, and why I think people react the way they do. I should have clarified.

>> No.45227852

>>45227757
How can you say EN isn't mismanaged when they confirmed silent suspensions like a bunch of fucking morons?

>> No.45227889

>>45227753
I pointed out how ridiculous that post was and I was right. I don't know who you are trying to square up trying to act like in some debate club while on an anonymous image board. Quit getting mad and emotional

>> No.45227900

>>45223747
You want to cancel people for having sex toys?

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>> No.45227957
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>>45227900
part of the group that hates vtubers and looks for reasons to get angry at them

>> No.45227984

>>45227889
>I pointed out how ridiculous that post was and I was right
You made a claim and provided no argument to back it up. If that's all it took to be right then the world would be a frightening place.
>debate club
It doesn't need to be a club to have a proper debate though. Like I said before, if don't feel like debating, nobody is forcing you to try.

>> No.45228053

>>45224125
>hex fans aren't nijifags
The absolute state

>> No.45228076

>>45227900
Imagine firing someone for a rape joke and not someone who assumedly without permission added a dildo asset to one of the talent's models. If color did it on purpose, then their clean image is a fucking lie.

>> No.45228083

>>45227852
anon i straight up said they dont have a perfect management for EN or JP, thats me saying its flawed and at times needed to be criticized when making bad decisions
we can talk with each other without having to be aggressive or insult each other

>> No.45228104

>>45225683
>To keep employees trapped
nigga talking like Zaion was the first ever graduation or termination for that matter
Zaion didn't want to follow the set of rules everyone been following since the branch debut
nobody is fearing for their careers, not even millie

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AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.45228129

>>45227984
It's not a debate because you're confusing me for another person in the thread you moron. Your post was stupid and you deserved every piece of criticism and mockery in the thread so far. Sit down

>> No.45228141

>>45220029
Wtf bro you're supposed to Hold It Down, not Whip it Out!

>> No.45228151

>>45228053
the only ones who are doing that retarded minor bs saying for others to delete are hex fans, not fans of other niji members, so i think its fair to say its not nijifans, its hex fans in particular
like, im not going to blame nijifans because retarded sisters harassed reimu, im going to blame vox fans, the ones in particular, not the others who had nothing to do with it

>> No.45228155

>>45228104
And you believe that, why? How has NijiEN done lately that makes you want to trust their word?

>> No.45228252

>>45228076
once again, shes not fired for a rape joke. her first suspension was much before that even happened..
showing a dildo at best will give him a warning, its not even in the same level. now if he shows one, two, three more times and insist after he was warned, then yes, suspension, thats how it goes

>> No.45228265

>>45223747
i don't think a dildo is as major as joking about nonconsent but it's bad nevertheless. i also dislike hex for coombaiting and his first year psychology student complex. I think he should be suspended for the dildo honestly

>> No.45228276

>>45228076
>added a dildo asset to one of the talent's models
they can't even do that with nijisanji outdated software
any "asset" is a png on obs

>> No.45228310

>>45228104
>nigga talking like Zaion was the first ever graduation or termination for that matter
In NijiEN, she was "officially" the first person fired. Yugo was graduated and I brought them up separately. The branches do not share the same management, so the actions of the main branch are irrelevant here.
>Zaion didn't want to follow the set of rules everyone been following since the branch debut
This is an argument made in bad faith. There are multiple examples of every rule in Zaion's termination notice being being broken by other livers. Many without any punishment at all. Luca never even apologized for stealing music from a Hololive talent. Zaion got an intentionally vague mention of "playing copyrighted music she didn't have permission to use" because it would have looked bad if they had explained it was actually her wavemate's cover she was trying to advertise.
>not even millie
Honest opinion here? Millie and Enna have the least to worry about unless something REALLY bad happens. Simple reason being that if management tried to fire one of them the other would walk immediately. It would be the worst PR imaginable outside of someone committing a felony or something.

>> No.45228331

>>45228252
If she wasn't fired for it, then why bring it up? Unless the goal was just to throw shade at her.

>> No.45228347

>>45228276
Company proprietary Live2D software is usually worse than what everyone else uses

>> No.45228511

>>45228129
>It's not a debate
Yes, I agree. That requires two sides to make meaningful arguments.
>you're confusing me for another person in the thread
Yet your last post claimed you pointed something out, was that not an attempt to debate?
>Your post was stupid
An excellent argument if there ever was one.
>deserved every piece of criticism
I haven't seen any valid criticism directed at me all thread.
>mockery
I'm hurt. Truly.
>Sit down
You tried that already.
>you moron
I agree. You. Moron.
I accept your concession.

>> No.45228598

>>45225830
heh

>> No.45228608

>>45223300
KEK

>> No.45228691

>>45228511
You're still going after realizing you've been talking to the wrong person. Shut up already, moron.

>> No.45228757

>>45228310
>This is an argument made in bad faith. There are multiple examples of every rule in Zaion's termination notice being being broken by other livers.
yada yada yada
you fucks can only parrot the same shit everytime
for every infraction both zaion and another live commited, there a clear separation of frequency and timespan
Hell finana probably did about all of Zaion's list, but once again Zaion's frequency was high enough for them to put a break on her
NOW, was she fired because of them? No she wasn't
Unless you think everyone of her wavemates are lying like I presume this faggot here think >>45228155
Zaion CHOSE to not return after the public suspension and nijisanji only option was to terminate the contract
So why the list then? Character Assassination nothing more. You can see the grudge management held over her for including "liking comments"

>> No.45228898

>>45228757
What did her wave mates actually said that wasn't a poor attempt to walk on eggshells?

>> No.45229281

>>45228757
>So why the list then? Character Assassination nothing more. You can see the grudge management held over her for including "liking comments"
You are arguing with me, but it isn't necessary. We agree on basically all the main points. When I called your argument "bad faith" I simply meant that everyone hadn't been following the rules since branch debut. I was not excusing her actions. She wasn't a good fit for the company and they had every right to fire her. They also have good reason to fire others, but meh. It's the malicious notices I take offense with. Well, that and Kyo getting away with being the crippled snake he is. Although I will say that I adamantly believe she was already fired during the public suspension. Since her streamlabs page was terminated during it. You wouldn't do that to someone that still works for you. They likely fired her around the midway point and spent the rest of the 30-day suspension building a list for said character assassination.

>> No.45229443

>>45228898
to be more exactly what Kotoka and Ver said that was relevant, was xsoleil trying to convince Zaion and not management
when you look at everything it just makes sense
>Sayu was already a big indie
>As Zaion she struggled or straight disagree with the restrictions
>After the january break(stealth suspension) she lost growth momentum
>Twitter demands her head after the public suspension
Zaion had no other reason other than friendships in the company to continue

>> No.45229805

>>45229281
Unless as said they commit a felony or pull out a rushia anycolor won't terminate anyone that still wants to keep working for them, so PR and revenue wise they won't fire anyone for these infractions
We have seen on JP side livers getting suspended for shit that would actually "hurt stakeholders" and kept their jobs
and we also saw shit like Axia graduating for hating his fanbase

>> No.45230106

I dint give a fuck about frequency, if you break the rules enough times, fire them. If you make exceptions for some, that's playing favoritism and it means that you are treated worse than your coworkers, which is scummy. If a company or any place of employment does that they should go bankrupt.

>> No.45230667

>>45230106
This. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand. Double standards is a sign for corruption.

>> No.45231293

>>45228151
>hex is not a niji
The absolute state

>> No.45231422

>>45230106
I kinda care about frequency, but in the other direction. I'm more forgiving of someone making a lot of mistakes starting out than I am of someone that keeps making mistakes years later. The former is adjusting to a new environment and that takes time. The latter has had more than enough time to learn and clearly doesn't care to do so.

>> No.45232663

>>45220029
Nice clickbaiting title

>> No.45234738

>>45220483
nothing will happen

>> No.45234939

>>45223300
rofl

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45236123

>>45234738
Maybe not immediately, but the moment he gets terminated, this one misstep can easily fill up three lines in the termination list kek.

>> No.45236359

>>45226917
>Lulu
>Graduated by her own accord

>> No.45238294

>>45236817
>>45236817
>>45236817
please move to the next step in dildogate

>> No.45239476

>>45236359
DYRBI?

>> No.45241937

>>45220029
Kek

>> No.45243773

>>45220068
Theyre still fighting

>> No.45245242

>>45231293
Dude how hard is for you to understand a simple sentence? if only one fanbase is doing one thing why the fuck would you blame other fanbases? if kiara fanbase does shit does that mean holo fans in general are doing?

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>>45223300
theres something to be said when ensharts are turning to drama.
there was a time nijisanji did the same

>> No.45248636

>>45245352
I have never seen a good post with enshart in it

>> No.45248776

>>45220029
>Hex Haywire Exposes His Tool
Gotta admit. I kek'd at that

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