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45173919 No.45173919 [Reply] [Original]

Is your Oshi offering alone time to the most dedicated fans a dealbreaker for you or a benefit?

I've seen a lot of indies doing this tactic recently and it leaves a gross, bitter taste in the mouth. I might just be defensive because I cringe at myself for purchasing it in the past for Lumi in the early cyberlife days. I can't decide if this is a true path or soulless.

>> No.45173954

>>45173919
Is this from small corpo i heard few week ago?

>> No.45174110

>>45173919
isnt that basically acting like a hostess
seems to work for ripping lonely men off at any rate, cant hate the hustle if there's no actual intimate contact

>> No.45174132

What did you get do with Lumi? Please tell me there was ERP. Or is the reason you regret it now that it was a real lame Discord date?

>> No.45174234

This is no different than paying to text with an OnlyFans girl, except it's even more likely to be the boyfriend or manager doing it. If you pay for this you are irredeemable as a man and can't even groom an egirl correctly. You do not need to pay over a grand a month to bag yourself a vtuber. If you do this without the intention of fucking the vtuber you're even more pathetic.

Fuck Pippa, fuck Rosemi, don't trust or fuck Lumi.

>> No.45174244

>>45173919
Tell me you're a prostitute without telling me that you're a prostitute.

>> No.45174387

>>45173919
That text alone is so cringe it makes me shiver

>> No.45174405

>>45173954
Small corpos do this but that doesn't surprise me. It's noticing indies do it on their own according popping up more regularly that is throwing me off. This is the miku clone with 30k subs who streamed with the ai vtuber.
>>45174132
Watched a movie, flirted during it, then had cringe worthy erp afterwards. Of course that shit is regretful to pay for.

>> No.45174411

>>45173919
what the fuck am i reading

>> No.45174437

>debasing yourself for the equivalent of 200 tier 1 memberships
grim

>> No.45174478 [DELETED] 

>>45174234
the thought of a cuck like you thinking you can manipulate Pippa when she's had a bf for years is hilarious senpai.

>> No.45174577

>>45174478
I think you missed the joke, an-non.

>> No.45174600

>>45173919
At that point you might as well get yourself an actual hooker. I can't imagine being so horny that i'd pay nearly a grand to erp with a vtuber.

>> No.45174608

>>45173919
In Germany you can literally get a Ukrainian girl to suck your dick for 50 bucks not sure why the fuck British people are so desperate they'd do this.

>> No.45174689

>>45174234
>>45174405
>This is no different than paying to text with an OnlyFans girl, except it's even more likely to be the boyfriend or manager doing it. If you pay for this you are irredeemable as a man and can't even groom an egirl correctly. You do not need to pay over a grand a month to bag yourself a vtuber. If you do this without the intention of fucking the vtuber you're even more pathetic.
Thanks I got a laugh from imaging a vtuber having her male manager ERP with a fan while pretending to be here.
>mannie-san: uwu anon-chan, I've never felt this way with any other paypig
>anon-kun: vtuber-chan, daisuki!
>chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>> No.45174692

>>45173919
I just wouldn't watch a vtuber who goes on e-dates with her biggest paypigs. This shit is downright predatory.

>> No.45174695

>>45173919
whose patreon is this? i want to know so i can avoid it
yeah, avoid it and nothing else haha

>> No.45174772

>>45174692
Youtube ought to have a cap on membership at like $100 a month or something. Or at the very least the same as their $500 akasupa limit.

>> No.45174777

>>45174695
https://www.patreon.com/killyourself/

>> No.45174931

>>45174777
i can't even get mad at you with those trips
so who's this poor Jamaree Joseph bastard? is it you?

>> No.45174969

>>45174692
What about if they did it in the past but no longer offer it since they make enough with normal donos/memberships?

>> No.45175001

>>45174405
>Watched a movie, flirted during it, then had cringe worthy erp afterwards. Of course that shit is regretful to pay for.
Holy shit, I can't believe I missed this chance

Please recommend me cute indies who do this

>> No.45175008

>>45174931
Boyfriend of the girl in the OP.

>> No.45175067

>>45173919
Somebody has to pay the bills.

>> No.45175086

>>45175008
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME, NOT HER

>> No.45175114

>>45173919
Dunno, I haven't heard of any of the indies i'm following doing this.

>> No.45175119

>>45173919
Noel offers one-one-one shit for the biggest paypigs on her roommate account.

>> No.45175196

>>45175119
is it any wonder that her roommate has the most favorited fantia account on kemono.party?

>> No.45175348

>>45173919
>935/mo
>sold out
jesus, just buy some gfe from your local whore at this point and it'll be cheaper and you get your pp touched

>> No.45175440
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45175440

>>45175001
Oceanne's new persona offers you an evening with her. But like OP's indie it's around 900 big ones.

>> No.45175447

>>45175001
I think you can find one in this very thread

>> No.45175525

>>45174969
That means they'll do it again if their numbers dip and are perfectly willing to pull the scummiest moves possible.
(You) aren't a fan to her, you're a potential money pool.

>> No.45175681

>>45174405
>Watched a movie, flirted during it, then had cringe worthy erp afterwards.
No wonder she stopped doing it that's really gay.

>> No.45175687

>>45175525
>(You) aren't a fan to her, you're a potential money pool
Name 5 tubers who dont see their fans this way

>> No.45175813

>>45175525
I think you should be more empathetic and not view them as hungry husks, anon. Assuming you have the typical /vt/ taste in vtubers you'd be surprised to learn what they offered in their infancy days.

>> No.45175822

>>45173919
I don't understand this. It looks to me like the cost to value ratio is extremely bad. I mean just imagine how many video games you could buy with the same money.

>> No.45175869

>>45174969
It's immoral to even resort to business practices like this in the first place, let alone charge such exorbitant rates. Any streamer who does stuff like this makes it explicitly clear that they're preying on mentally ill, lonely men. The illusion is already shattered.

>> No.45176036

>>45173919
Which company is doing this?

>> No.45176112

>>45173919
Yeah that's a deal breaker for me. I watch vtubers like I watch anime, to see cute anime girls fooling around. If I want to pick up a girl, I have real life for that, so I don't need some chick to flirt with me 1on1 even in my entertainment.
Who's this chuuba anyway? Anyone big enough to notice?

>> No.45176192

>>45175687
Watame 5 times

>> No.45176213

>>45175687
I could but they're almost all smaller corpos or hobbyist indies.
>>45175813
>they offered in their infancy days.
I know what many offered and they're just as pathetic as the men who pay for it.
>you should be more empathetic and not view them as hungry husks
Are ones that sell themselves in such a way anything but a husk?
There's no such thing as a reformed whore.

>> No.45176302

The only reason a vtuber isnt selling herself like that is because she bas a boyfriend who doesnt approve of it

>> No.45176487

>>45176302
So what you're saying is that vtubers with boyfriends are superior.

>> No.45176609
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>>45176302
Some vtubers date very ''progressive'' boys.

>> No.45176636

>>45176487
If you're sole judgement is whether she sells private time with fans then us. (Keep in mind some guys are ok with their gf whoring herself out if the money's good enough, especially so when shes just a side bitch)

>> No.45176671

>>45173919
a greedy bitch like that would never be my oshi

>> No.45179383

>>45173919
I don't know too much groom risk

>> No.45179661

>>45176192
Maybe Watame is doing something wrong?

>> No.45179699

>>45173919
Disgusting. Actual virtual whore.

>> No.45179749

>>45176487
Married vtubers that don’t do gfe are the best ones.

>> No.45179774

>>45173919
You can literally hire an escort and get her to cosplay and larp as your oshi and have her spend the night with you for that kind of fucking money.

>> No.45179971

>>45173919
This kind of stuff is really trashy. I remember when Cyberlive tried to force it's girls to do this and then had to scrap it immediately. Any notable vtubers still doing this? I realize some do it under the table (like a stripper fucking dudes for money afterhours) but do any advertise that they do this?

>> No.45180641

Maybe lobotomies are actually useful.

>> No.45181173

>>45179774
Losers who watch vtubers dont want sex they want intimacy. Theyre peak herbivore men

>> No.45181561
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>>45173919
Wouldn't it be funny if the "1 on 1 time" was only via text chat and the vtubers paid someone else to do it for them?

>> No.45181728

>>45179774
The target audience for this is too insecure to actually get intimate with real women, which is why they have convinced themselves that 3D women are lame anyway.

>> No.45181788

>>45173919
For 900 a month she better come to my home and suck my dick.
>sold out
the fuck is wrong with you people

>> No.45184951
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>>45179749

>> No.45185245

>>45173919
Pretty expensive whore. And you dont even fuck her. WTF who pay for that?

>> No.45185692
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45185692

>>45179661
WARUKUNAI YO NE >:|

>> No.45185734

>>45179971
>force
dyrbi

>> No.45186559

It's the kind of thing that's always struck me as predatory and a tacit admission that they're just fishing for whales but the real criminals are the ones who enable them to do that kind of shit.

>> No.45186942

>>45175687
Pippa

>> No.45188253

>>45185734
Yeah. Bottom tier vtuber companies do this kind of shit all the time. Sign up people, get them under contract, then spring extra obligations on them. Some of them might have been down but I doubt 100% or even half were. The fact that almost no indies even do this shows that most people are outright uncomfortable with it, or at least the appearance of doing it.

>> No.45188391

>>45175440
>Oceanne's new persona
is this a meme?

>> No.45188471

>>45174608
and get 50 diseases thought extinct to mankind, sure

>> No.45189697
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45189697

>>45174132
Nothing, since she noped out of that before anything happened.

>> No.45189939

>your oshi wouldnt spend an hour with you even if you paid her 800 dollars
Damn she must find you fags creepy as fuck

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45189995

>>45173919
To each their own

>> No.45190230

>>45175440
>be woman
>literally all you need to do for people to drop near 1k on you is pretend that you love them for like an hour

>> No.45192476

>>45190230
world's oldest profession.

>> No.45192781
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>>45173919
The males do it also. This dummy just clicked the wrong hing on his obs and leaked his private time assets

>> No.45193050

Idk, I got dozens of hours of alone time with kiyomi pyon pyon for free and was actually totally pissed that she wouldn't stop doing her GFE bullshit with me when the agreement we'd previously settled on was that we'd just be normal people with eachother. Wasn't interested in romance or anything like that, and she just couldn't help herself from doing her groomer bullshit which I eventually fell for while she took pleasure in emotionally manipulating an isolated and depressed person into thinking we were in some irl relationship.

>> No.45193435

>>45173919
I wish, I already donate that much

>> No.45193511

>>45192781
>dummy clicked the wrong thing totally by accident
>the same faggot who grooms mentally ill underage girls

>> No.45193530

>>45193050
Sorry to hear that chow

>> No.45193645

>>45192781
Do you not see the background?

>> No.45193924

>>45184951
thats a big one!

>> No.45194043

>>45173919
>$1k for erp
Meanwhile japanese girls would eat my dango for 100 bucks lmao
https://youtu.be/watch?v=u1RcAhDvb0Q

>> No.45194172

>>45173919
It's based because it's what you do with regular women anyway. At the end of the day, all women are pay to win

>> No.45194204

>>45193530
It's okay. She's a psychopath monster in a human skin suit who I came to find actually deserves all the anti shit she gets. Mask fell off. Is not a nice girl.

>> No.45195620

>>45173919
>just $1,000
lmao

ENTER GFE COMPANY
Two people donated $21,750 for a 5 min talk with the vtuber in question.

>> No.45195693
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45195693

>>45195620
>forgot pic

>> No.45198980

What compels people to this?

>> No.45199663

>>45198980
Historically, giving gifts has been a part of courtship. So theres probably some part of their brain that associates this with actually courting them and having a chance of being successful

>> No.45199823

>>45173919
I respect the grind (exploiting the richest parasocial fans' unfounded feelings). Are any male streamers doing this? Are there lists of people who give this much money? Looks like a good way to find sugar daddies/mommies.

>> No.45199889

>>45173919
Is it really that bad?
>Lumi did it
Oh fuck sorry for asking.

>> No.45200000

Almost all women on the internet have done something like this in one way or another. Either sending pics for money or getting paid to chat/erp

>> No.45200108

>>45199663
To be fair to those losers, sometimes it does work out, by which I mean they can become one of the paypiggies who get to fug the chuuba once. Take Vera, Koopa and some others I won't mention, for example
Still, paying that much money to an amateur prostitute for just one fuck and not even a professional quality fuck, is so pathetic that its almost sad to laugh at them

>> No.45200209

>>45200108
Didnt koopa get pumped and dumped? She got groomed, paid for a flight to go fuck a fan and he ducked out as soon as he pulled out

>> No.45200534

>>45200209
I assumed it was the fan who payed. Good for him then, no reason to stick around for some menhera whore
Hopefully it fucked up her self worth even further

>> No.45200575

>>45173919
I paid for that kind of service from a chuba before she became a chuba many years ago, it was way cheaper than what op posted hahaha and it was 10 minutes of chitchat and felt more like her getting BFE from me than me getting GFE with how much she was venting. She's cute and friendly and I'm glad she's rich now

>> No.45200622

>>45200575
a woman getting money from a man is pretty much BFE

>> No.45200757

>>45194204
Sorry to hear you didn't get your money's worth but... who?

>> No.45201187

>>45175196
How much money would it take to enter that club? $500 minimum?

>> No.45201348

>>45200209
I want to break her hips

>> No.45202015

>>45173919
Dealbreaker, I'm an extremely jealous fag, whore.

>> No.45202687

>>45202015
can you even call that jealousy? no sound minded person would want to share the person they like with others

>> No.45202879

>>45173919
No fucking way this is Lumi. PC Lumi? Really?!

>> No.45202981

Just a few minutes, that's all i need to win her heart and make her mine

>> No.45203139

>>45200757
>>/vt//pyon/

>> No.45203192

>>45202879
This is from Miyune.

>> No.45203209

>>45173919
Feels like pay 2 win, it's garbage, it's like paying a prostitute but worse

>> No.45203423

Doing this personal stuff feels like a step in a direction I’m not interested in. If a vtuber is doing this I would likely avoid them if I knew about it. At a certain point if you are dropping nearly a grand just to talk to or type to a virtual woman then you are just too far gone. The exorbitant prices for what amounts to at best a flirty meet and greet is silly. You could spend so much less and actually fuck somebody by the end of it. Lmao

>> No.45203426

>>45173919
lumi?, really?, her voice isnt even good enough for ERP lol, anyway, this is a really old japanese service so they already have an entire culture developed to do it, idk about EN, i dont think they are capable of doing it good enough.

>> No.45204063

>>45200575
How much did you pay?

>> No.45204415

1k for shitty ERP any anon on /trash/ could do better. Jesus christ. I've purchased shit while horny but goddamn.
>>45203423
For 1k you can get an escort who absolutely will make you believe she's in love with you, fuck you, and do afternoon+night, and is hotter. Wtf. You can even do it once a month for that price. Twice, if you know how to look or aren't looking for literal models.
>>45179383
Whoever's dropping 1k a month to talk to a funny woman for a few hours couldn't groom a poodle. Unless she goes into it with prostitution in mind, and this is just a roundabout way of hiring her, nobody dropping that money can do anything.
>>45175822
You could unironically fuck a good looking whore every Friday and Saturday, spending all night with her.

>> No.45205568

>>45174405
Gonna need to you to back that up with some proof otherwise this is some cringe rp.

>> No.45206139

>>45176609
fuck, imagine having a gf that rakes in thousands per week just for talking to a few desperate losers. imagine becoming a house husband, taking care of all the cooking & cleaning just so she can maximise her money sucking potential. sounds like a fucking dream

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>>45173919
None of these talents are actually talking to those people, you know as well as I do that they outsource it to people the same way the whores on onlyfans do. All except for my oshi, of course.
Fucking pathetic.

>> No.45206622

>>45176609
if you're referring to green woman, she doesn't even coomerbait so there's no real reason why he should be upset about it

>> No.45206933

>>45175001
you know you can pay a real woman to pretend to love you and take your cock however you like it for less than the price of these digital ERP sessions

>> No.45207674

>>45194204
You are a faggot and a retard, touch grass

>> No.45208157

>>45173919
I cant wait for some schizo politician to pick this up as being no better than prostitution and crack down fucking hard

>> No.45208600

>>45195693
Holy shit this is genuinely sad

>> No.45208894

>>45174110
I wonder if you get a hug in VR at least I've seen some people do that

>> No.45212492

>>45175440
based

>> No.45214133

>>45195620
>>45195693
I honestly feel for them, at least I use my poorfag status as a coping mechanism, these dudes have probably made it already, yet still can't find any human connection and companionship

>> No.45218992

>>45200108
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEEEEEEEEEEE (who fucked Vera)

>> No.45221678

>>45173919
Uh

>> No.45222144

>>45206622
You know nothing about her past life. Plenty of coom asmrs and community days.

>> No.45223467

>>45173919
People that pay for this, instead of going to a massage parlor to get their dick milked should neck themselves.

>> No.45224569

>>45173919
Guranteed to end like that guy who killed his family after stealing 200k from them. Which corpo is this? looking forward to checking in on them in a couple years,

>> No.45226846

I saw a clip of Miyune's collab with Neuro. Miyune came across as a really sweet and wholesome girl. I can't really hate her.

>> No.45226920

>>45195693
Jesus.

>> No.45227000

>>45173919
>1 on 1 time with the streamer
This isn't going to end well, is it?

>> No.45227165

>>45226846
I don't watch twitch so I discovered her thanks to youtube recommending me Neuro-sama clips subbed in Japanese, of all things.

>> No.45227442

>>45226846
It's predatory but Miyune has done no wrong besides this that I can see

>> No.45227560

>>45173919
5 visits with a good escort vs hanging out with some random fucking shitty ass vtuber? who the fuck buys this shit?

>> No.45227693

Lol, Lumi offered these? Ahahaha

>> No.45228741

>>45227000
It's not an irl encounter, it's a discord meet and greet that lasts a couple hours. Some may even throw in some erp to sweeten the deal and get you to pay next month, but none of them are going to be beyond what a /trash/ or discord anon can do.
It's extremely predatory all around, and leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth, from the talent (who will feel dirty unless she's an unironic psychopath), to the buyer (who dropped a grand on a couple hours with some girl and will feel as alone as before once the discord call ends, minus one grand), to the rest of the audience (who see the predatory behaviour and the multi-tier follower engagement based only on money paid. There's always the doubt in the mind of the audience, but this codifies it and makes it official.)
>>45195693
This is unironic mental illness.

>> No.45229012

>>45188391
No. It's real.

>> No.45229080

>>45173919
She does it for free with me.

>> No.45229339

>>45218992
>said literally no one ever

>> No.45230665

>>45227693
Yeah. That's why they're in GBP not USD dumbass

>> No.45231243

It feels like you have kind of jumped the shark so to speak of being able to call yourself a "content creator" once you start doing stuff like that. It's clear at that point that you aren't just some person trying to make a living having fun as a streamer or youtuber like thousands of others but its all really just a front for emotional prostitution.

>> No.45232441

>>45174405
>Watched a movie, flirted during it, then had cringe worthy erp afterwards.
I'm gonna need receipts or proof, sounds hot

>> No.45233145

>>45228741
I agree.

>> No.45235321

>>45173919
I trust Lumi

>> No.45235368

>>45173919
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PRICE????

>> No.45237255

>>45173919
for 1k per month you better be getting a happy ending

>> No.45239521

>>45173919
up

>> No.45241957

>>45173919
Jesas

>> No.45243824

>>45195620
based

>> No.45248614

>>45173919
There are far better deals for girls who actually show their face. I mean, these guys don't want to actually leave home right?

>> No.45248766

>>45188391
She was up and running in days after she got publicly shunned and exiled just like my villainess mangas fr fr
https://www.youtube.com/@UtadaZoey
Everything temporary and work in progress

>> No.45248915

>>45173919
Jesas.

>> No.45249116

>>45173919
>1k for an awkward discord date
When they set up these insane reward tiers do you think they feel ashamed in the slightest? I mean really what could you possibly offer to someone in a couple of hours over discord that justifies charging them nearly a thousand pounds, is ERP even guaranteed?
And yeah it's a dealbreaker, exploitative of the mentally ill and if your oshi offers something like this you are always going to have it in the back of your mind that she is probably efucking her biggest paypig.

>> No.45249468

>>45249116
I'm guessing some flirting and no ERP. Anyone who pays that much would have no idea how to participate in ERP. Maybe they watch a movie and the 'ERP' is holding hands. And they will again the next month. People are weird.

>> No.45250247

This is a pretty shitty Lumi bait thread. Lumi had it as a tier for a few days. Since management had her include it. Removed it because it made her uncomfortable before ever actually doing any "one on ones". It wasn't ever even a purchasable option. The tiers were just shown early and were changed by the time she got monetized.

>> No.45250540

>>45250247
Wasn't it some other cyberlive girl that suggested these and not management?

>> No.45250633

>>45174234
>Rosemi
QRD?

>> No.45250702

>>45174608
It’s either sucking dick or getting blown to smithereens

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45250993

>>45188471
>SEXO SCARY
>ME PREFERRO E-SEX WITH WHORE FOR 10 TIMES THE COST
Nigga what the fuck is wrong with you.

>> No.45251054

>>45250247
>>45250540
>other cyberlive girl
It's Hylo, if I'm not wrong.

>> No.45251221

>>45250993
Damn, look at those Bocchi's rocks!

>> No.45251420

>>45179749
Married vtubers who do offpako behind their husbands back are the best. We stopped using a condom a few months ago. Here's hoping that he doesn't need a kidney or something somewhere down the line.

>> No.45251672

>>45175001
Bro, just find a smol indie. Many will do shit like watch movies with you just for being a viewer and being in their discord. Just save the flirting for after you've known each other for a while.

>> No.45251738

>>45250247
>cyberlive was literally a black company

>> No.45251807

>>45251054
>Hylo

Oof, I feel bad for the people who whaled for a literal whale.

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>>45250540
Hylo and Yuri had it.

>> No.45252366
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>>45251054
>>45250540
>>45252295
This was lumis debut rewards

>> No.45252643

This thread was created by a roastie to spread fake rumors about other vtubers, disbelieve anything you read here.

>> No.45252837

>>45173919
Gross

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>>45251738
>>45251807
>>45252295
>>45252366
>Cyberlive
How many did Vera fuck?

>> No.45253215

>>45181561
That's how a lot of bigger OF girls operate. They have a manager (or multiple people sometimes) who deal with the DMs of their paypigs, flirt with them, and sometimes send them pics from a reserve stash that they keep for this purpose. The simps don't even realize they're flirting with a guy just working a day job 99% of the time.

>> No.45253270

>>45253215
How did you know about this stuff?

>> No.45253609

>>45253270
A friend of mine was one of these managers. Told me that it's surprisingly common. That was a couple years ago but I doubt things have changed, in fact it's likely to have gotten worse.

I'm not sure why it would be surprising to anyone though. The way VTubers and their management operate outwardly are already only a few steps removed from this. Plus any e-girl with a modicum of fame gets so many solicitations it'd be impractical for them to deal with all themselves.

>> No.45254508

>>45252900
Don't remember what the final count was. Was at least 2. Probably more

>> No.45254765

>>45173919
this shit is downright predatory

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