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45158887 No.45158887 [Reply] [Original]

Is Nijisanji objectively the worst thing it happened to Vtubing? Literally cant go 1 day without infights/controversy

>> No.45158929

vtubing is the worst thing to happen to vtubing

>> No.45158950

>>45158887
EN in general. Thanks to a dragon.

>> No.45158968

In the west it's obviously Vshojo. That was basically the go-ahead to tell prospective chuubas that kayfabe didn't matter and you could just be a generic ethot with an anime avatar.

>> No.45158971

>>45158887
Niji JP is fine.
Niji EN... Let's just say they are not vtubers at all.

>> No.45158988

>>45158887
Yes but Tempiss is getting there

>> No.45158991

Niji JP is mostly fine, tho it also has cliques
Niji ID/KR were sacrificed to the IPO gods
Niji EN is just a dumpster fire

>> No.45159027

>>45158887
Nijisanji? No
Nijisanji EN? Absofuckinglutely

>> No.45159216

>>45158968
VShojo is innofensive and in it's lane on twitch 99% of the time.
For 1 VShojo related drama Nijisanji has like 100 episodes of drama.
No, they are not as awful as Nijishit, beside VShojo doesn't have a cult that carve on their flesh "livers" name and a zaion like termination wouldn't be as welcome too

>> No.45159275

>>45159216
Vshojo's toxicity is in its influence on the Western vtubing sphere as a whole. Every twitch indie just apes Veibae.

>> No.45159342

>>45158887
Niji JP No.
Niji EN Most of them no. Kyo and Enna yes.
Vshojo though? Yes also.

>> No.45159375

>>45158887
In 15 years vtubers will die off. We have to play the waiting game.

>> No.45159401

>>45159342
Cute that you think only Kyo and Enna are the problems.

>> No.45159419

>>45158988
Reminder that Tempiss exist because of NijiEN and Luxiem, somehow management thought they could reproduce that and they failed.

>> No.45159524

>>45159342
And Hex, and Vox, and Luca, and Millie.

>> No.45159653

>>45159275
Avoiding that is as easy as avoiding Twitch. Which is good practice anyway.
Nijisanji brought twitter women and pronoun freaks into the fanbase. I hold them responsible for every person that gets harassed for playing the wizard game. Those fucks wouldn't even know vtubers exist if not for Luxiem.

>> No.45159682

>>45159524
And Finana

>> No.45159734
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>>45158887
Xher needs to be fired.

>> No.45159984

>>45159653
>I hold them responsible for every person that gets harassed for playing the wizard game.
Why do you think every vtuber that got harrased was a Twitch streamer?

>> No.45160437

>>45159984
Pippa?

>> No.45160533

>>45158887
the worst thing to happen to vtubing is anything non jp, unironically

>> No.45160613

>>45160533
Um…. It was your dragon’s fault for opening towards the western audience.

>> No.45160711

>>45160613
NTA but reddit dragon never was that good

>> No.45160771

>>45160437
Deserved it for pandering to /here/

>> No.45160868

>>45158887
As an EOP, I believe that EN vtubing as a whole is the worst thing.

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>>45159653
>Nijisanji brought twitter women and pronoun freaks into the fanbase

>> No.45162542

>>45161292
Yes. I was here before Luxiem and even NijiEN was comfy as fuck during those days. You could argue the downfall started with Ethyria, and you wouldn't be wrong, but that was a different problem. Luxiem brought swarms of kpop fans and chinese fujos. Which everyone knows are the absolute worst kinds of people. Before Luxiem, men were either obscure or JP. The people that were watching Holostars JP and NijiJP are not the people causing problems today.

>> No.45164854

>>45158887
just nijiEN, JP is fine and I love Chigusa

>> No.45165291

Reminder Nijisanji is also indirectly responsible for the EN Homos.
Seriously, I fucking hate that corpo so fucking much.

>> No.45165434

>>45165291
You need room temperature IQ to think both Yagoo and Omega were so mentally retarded they would have no deployed a male wave had it not been for ......financial success?

>> No.45165540

>>45165434
They weren't gonna do it, they wouldn't take away resources from GEN3 for it, and they wouldn't have released two gens back to back for it and wouldn't have pushed for HoloEN to shill them.
At best they would have dipped their toes on that untested territory carefully not to ruin what they already had.
NijiEN's male success had them diving it head first into it and throwing the girls under the bus for it.

>> No.45165685

>>45165540
They were always going to debut a HolostarsEN, they maybe sped ran it because of Luxiem/Noctyx along with the growing saturation of the market, but if anything it happening sooner is better than later. At least now the company got whatever remaining talent they got and Cover gets some cash, instead of waiting for Q4 2023 to even start to sub 300 views and sub 1k Super chats/mo

>> No.45165940

>>45165685
We'd have GEN3 by now and would likely have avoided the male collab yabs that split some girl's communities.

>> No.45166302

>>45165940
No, Holostars management and budgeting literally does not affect Hololive side at all.
En3 did not debuted because they debuted TEMPUS, EN3 did not debuted yet because they don't have anything to debut at all
Oh and there is no civil war within homo and anti homo factions, as they don't exist. Keep creating imaginary enemies in your retarded brain though

>> No.45166340

>>45158968
thats cope

>> No.45166489

>>45166302
Oh so you still believe that shit.
JP and EN are not the same, they do not operate under the same format.
EN all shares the same management and that management was busy working on the homos instead of GEN3, it's been over a year for GEN3 it should already be obvious to everyone homos took GEN3's timming.

>> No.45166538

>>45166489
>it's been over a year for GEN3 it should already be obvious to everyone homos took GEN3's timming.
Are you a Cover intern working on HoloPro EN branch?

>> No.45166603

>>45166538
I have a functional brain.

>> No.45166736

>>45166603
lol sure

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