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Here's the part where Finana talks about Zaion but if you can't watch it then it boils down to this:
>Zaion asked Finana for advice in a stream
>That stream got Zaion in trouble with management
>Finana didn't watch the stream and it was probably privated to she wouldn't have been able
>Zaion asked her for help with management
>Finana defends Zaion against management because she tells them she followed her advice
>Management tells Finana what actually happened
>Zaion then tells Finana that she's sorry for lying to her
>Continues to do what she "apologized" for anyway

>> No.44862348

https://www.youtube.com/live/jyd2iXuk9Sk?feature=share&t=2004
timestamp

>> No.44862610

That's actually fucked up giving how naive and trusting Finana is, to a fault practically.

>> No.44862635

>>44862323
nijisanji is truly a blacked company for forcing finana to say this

>> No.44862653

>>44862323
hard to ask for the other side of the story when the other person is fired and under NDA. NijiEN is bashing the hell out of Zaion while she can't say anything back.

>> No.44862759

Do you REALLY think you're going to get sympathy for Finana of all people, out in the catalog?
Just stick to /nijien/ and running defense in /#/ and other drama threads.

>> No.44862773

>>44862323
Nice, fuck Finana

>> No.44862784
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jesus christ more vague shitflinging at a fired coworker
hololive never did anything this disgraceful after a graduation. kinda pisses me off how vile these people act

>> No.44862972

>>44862323
trap is a hurt word bo-ho! Zaion was mean to me waaa!

>> No.44863077
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>>44862323
Nah man, fuck Finana. She probably told Zaion management were really lax with the shit she has pulled

>Her racist remarks during gtav: https://files.catbox.moe/mav7p0.mp4
>Her making fun of HIV: https://files.catbox.moe/oucrjs.mp4
>Joining a fan discord and talking with them on Discord chat
https://files.catbox.moe/melisv.mp4
>Sharing her audition video with the discord group
https://files.catbox.moe/z1u6id.mp4

She was warned from joining the discord group, she ignored it, going against management and joined a more hidden discord server to play with her favorite fans away from her community.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220714153830/https://pastebin.com/f94aCCuS
Playing favorites, giving them preferential treatment and sharing Nijisanji info with them.
She also used the N word before, while calling them annoying.

The valoguards were also the fans who pressured her into banning the words “trap” and “futa”

>> No.44863151

What the fuck is wrong with NijiEN?
They have to be the most unpleasant and incompetent corpo not named Wactor out there.

>> No.44863213

>>44862784
Is it trannysanji or nijitroonji
Have we decided on one yet?

>> No.44863220

I don't get why /vt/ has such a hate boner for Finana.
Sure she's a disgusting femcel, but she treats literally everyone she collabs with like a close friend.

>> No.44863316

I don't trust finana

>> No.44863412

>>44862653
Yep the more thing go on the more shitty this whole story sound. Like it's ok you terminated her, you could put some reason like creative diference or such and you know avoid looking like wactor.

>> No.44863490

>>44863220
She fucking good looking bro lol. I doubt she’s a femcel. More like volcel.

>> No.44863560

Goddamn, the drama locusts dropped pikamee like a rock for this.

>> No.44863616

>>44863220
> "educate yourself"
> while putting the most retarded twiter freak opinion as educated
Ruined her reputation irreparably, and it's pretty much deserved. Also play too much gacha shit.

>> No.44863699

>>44862323
Yugo was apparently bad enough to get fired and scrubbed from history with no graduation, but no one had anything bad to say. This shit is fishy when Zaion is being demonized with no way to say anything. It's like management is scared she'd get drama boost like Yugo who does better than Luxiem whenever he does stream.

>> No.44863716

>>44863560
good, let them latch onto the latest yab rather than dragging my kettle through the mud

>> No.44863787

>>44863616
>still mad
Should've improved yourself like Ame said I guess.

>> No.44863848

>>44863699
Because Yugo terminated the contract because of disagreements about music rights, nothing about him breaking rules or anything.

>> No.44863858

>>44863787
t. Groomer

>> No.44863874

>>44863220
Finana is dumb as a rock. It's not like people want to hate her but she keeps putting herself in retarded situations and saying stupid shit because of very limited IQ. Her content is also crap so nobody except people who want to fuck her actively watch her and defend her.

>> No.44863958

>>44863077
Based reciepts anon, the feesh can get fucked, innocent my ass

>> No.44863960

>>44862323
Finana is one of those girls that you can take home with you by promising to show her a huge space ship in your backyard. What a dummy and also 10/10 rape victim.

>> No.44863982

>>44862323
>Trusting Finana who lied to her members and had a discord with only her and her big paypiggies where she'd sext with them
lmao
SIEG ZAION

>> No.44863986

>>44863077
actually makes no sense to talk about this unless she's deliberately trying to paint zaion in a negative light.

>> No.44864014

>Be more careful next time
>Groomer discord will most likely still be up and running regardless
This poor dumb feesh lol

>> No.44864058

>>44863560
There was no Pikamee drama. It was just the usual suspects using her graduation to shit on trannies.

>> No.44864071

>>44862323
This saga of publicly burying someone who got shitcanned is incredibly tasteless and actual butch league shit
I dont care if Zaion lied about dying of cancer (lol), this shit is classless

>> No.44864180

>>44863982
valoguards weren't even her paypigs, lol

>> No.44864190

>>44864071
the disgusting part is that zaion isn't being given a way to defend herself at all, so it's a complete free for all for these fucking vultures. ACTUALLY appalling behavior.

>> No.44864275

>>44864071
How long until someone say she cheated at mahjong?

>> No.44864299

>>44862784
Yeah no one who graduated from hololive was a tremendous asshole to all their coworkers behind the scenes. I don't know why anyone is surprised, Zaion just legitimately sounds like a piece of shit human.

>> No.44864383

>>44864299
>Zaion just legitimately sounds like a piece of shit human.
Kek, clutch your pearls harder while you choke on that boot. Make sure not to throw it up

>> No.44864436

>>44864383
Nigga get some self awareness jesus fucking christ you people

>> No.44864481

>>44863699
Yugo was almost certainly a contract dispute with management. Also kind of a flake as far as streaming and work reliably went, but no interpersonal drama with other talents. That's why everyone was sad or at least indifferent at worst.

>> No.44864492

>>44864299
>taking every word as gospel from a publicly traded company
man, you're the perfect customer. doesn't question anything the corporations do. just open wide, sucking and swallowing like the fucking consoom slave you are.

>> No.44864511

Finana is disgusting, Niji is disgusting. You limbo'd under the bar of Vshojo and became the worst company that isnt WACTOR

>> No.44864554

>>44864436
look in the mirror and realize that a public burial of someone whose biggest sin is a piece of dark humor and not wanting to kiss the brass ring
acting like she's hitler is what they want and you're buying what they're selling, you are the perfect sucker

>> No.44864673

>>44864058
nice revisionism trannoid

>> No.44864704

>>44864436
I'm self aware enough to know that we're only hearing one side and that this side has silenced the target

Zaion is getting treated positively awful, its not like she doxxed her gen or anything, seems her biggest sin was not fitting in with the clique and not bowing her head over every little yab

>> No.44864710

>>44864436
>niggerspeak
How are nijisisters so bad at hiding where they come from, it's a fucking anonymous imageboard.

>> No.44864766

>>44863699
Yugo wasn't fired, he was graduated as both sides couldn't find an agreement. They offered a graduation to him, not a termination, because he didnt break contracts to need that. And yugo isn't unpersonated, he still is mentioned here and there to this day and he got credited from pomu. only alban erased him.

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>>44863490

>> No.44864782

>>44863077
>Sharing her audition video with the discord group
Wow niji standards must have been super low for their first wave. I can't imagine passing that, its so boring.

>> No.44864841

>>44864766
graduation stream doko?
his channel doko?

>> No.44864863

>>44864673
You don't need to use someone's graduation to shit on trannies, unless you're a twittard or a kiwifag.

>> No.44864966

>>44864436
Calm down, Kyo.

>> No.44865096

>>44864710
You can't unlearn years of typing like a monkey unless you constantly proofread your posts. Twitterniggers will type the first thing that comes to their minds and post it with no afterthought.

>> No.44865099

>>44864774
I hate Finana as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure if ERP in ff14 counts

>> No.44865148

>>44864766
who the fuck is alban?

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>>44864436
We'll never get the full picture until Zaion airs out her story. Obviously you shouldn't take her perspective as the only truth, but we'll be able to piece the two sides together and figure out whats really going on.
It's hard to only trust Nijisanji EN's perspective right now, mostly because its not like they're a squeaky clean and truthful organization. Plus they're going out of their way to drag an ex-talent through the mud, unless we have concrete proof that she pulled a Meiro or worse then its difficult to take them seriously.

>> No.44865340

>maybe if we shit on, insult and try to damage the future career of a former talent more, people will believe we're the good guys

all of niji needs mental help, like the whole company

>> No.44865500

>>44865340
Their news posts require a mandarin translation, that's all you need to know about how they conduct business
Literal CCP therapy speak disguised to drag her name through the mud and turning the other cheek when doxxsisters spam her address all over twitter

>> No.44865551

holy fuck zaion is a literal vtuber hitler. i will now doxx her on twitter. thank you for opening my eyes noor!

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44865708

Crazy how Zaion became the antichrist for these 2 faced bitches in one month. Imagine the abuse they must have suffered while she was suspended and unable to stream or interact.

>> No.44865737

I unironically think Niji is making a huge mistakes letting their talents talk like this. Make sure to archive everything in case they decide to revise history a 2nd time.

>> No.44865779

tell you what, tear up the NDA, let Zaion say her side and maybe I'll believe Niji arent a black company.

>> No.44865801

>>44862323
>Finana
Yeah i dont trust this whore. She is in the clique

>> No.44865817

>>44865298
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH WHY DID THIS MODEL HAVE TO DIE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANIKARA TEMEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.44865822

>>44865298
She's not going to air out her story lmao. She's done with Nijisanji. You want her to get sued as well?

>> No.44865842

>>44863077
Wtf, she just self doxx for discord groomer and nijifucker said it against the rule to even promote pl.

>> No.44865886

>>44865737
>revise history a 2nd time
this would probably be their 87th time

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>>44865817
>AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH WHY DID THIS MODEL HAVE TO DIE
It's a hot model for a shotacon to have.

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>>44865340
>all of niji needs mental help
They already receive anon
A school in which they sing, dance and learn

>> No.44865944

>>44865817
This is the only legitimate complaint. Give that model to someone else, there should be a 90 day return policy so it's fine.

>> No.44865947

>>44864180
So she’s even more retarded than people give her credit for? I can’t imagine her paypigs staying if that’s the case

>> No.44865955

>>44865822
>Sued
In what way? She's American, the fuck is a Japanese corporation going to do in America?

>> No.44866172

>>44862323
There's literally no reason for these people to continue piling on her. Even if I was on their side, there's a point when it becomes a targeted hit piece and we've long since passed that point. Fuck NijiEN management and fuck their talents. They're just being disgusting pieces of shit right now.

>> No.44866219

You dont sign an NDA when youre shitcanned, retards
You're fucking fired. Underage retards without a job ITT

>> No.44866267

>>44865737
Yes, Its a japanese company in over its head, they don't know the degree of vain, self serving shitflinging these people are capable of.
The managers they hired are probably trained in DEI or some shit.

>> No.44866273

>>44865099
>he doesn't

>> No.44866319

>>44866172
>There's literally no reason for these people to continue piling on her
When the entire catalog refuses to believe the words coming out of their mouths it's no wonder other talents want to come forward and corroborate their stories.

>> No.44866413

>>44866172
>actual proof she did one of the things stated in the termination notice
>"s-stop iiiittttt"
Sorry your narrative is falling apart

>> No.44866433

>>44865955
If you ever watched Zaion you'd know she's half-Japanese and has family in Japan. If she goes against Anycolor they can make sure she'll never be able to return without getting dragged to court.

>> No.44866457

>>44866172
They've been leaving her dox up in replies and not making any attempt to discourage it, it's obvious what they're doing

>> No.44866496

>>44866319
maybe they should do another secret GC stream where they pretend to be 4channers to own the catalog if it bothers them that much

>> No.44866519

>>44866219
yeah you sign one when you're hired and most of them contain lines about not sharing "company secrets" and the like after "parting ways" for x many years under threat of lawsuit

>> No.44866523

>>44866433
Lmao yeah ok dude, I'm sure the big bad vtuber Yakuza will go after her. Spoooooooookyyyy

>> No.44866525

>>44866319
This is the most delusional comment I've read today.

>> No.44866646

>>44866519
Calling your coworkers backstabbing cunts isn't grounds for a lawsuit

>> No.44866655

>>44866525
Yeah its definitely less delusional to think Zaion was the hero of this story and literally everyone else in the entire company ganged up to get her fired just because they felt like it.

>> No.44866731

>>44865822
Its doubtful that the NDA can be held up in America when her contract is terminated and the management is encouraging people to sling dirt on her well after her termination. She doesn't even need to name them, she just can be vague and say "a company I worked for", I'm sure American law has a few things to say about that.
Plus, Anykara basically showed themselves to be nothing more than paper tigers. They issued DMCAs to drama channels, but they didnt go through with them or take the channels down. Probably because they knew they legally had no legs to stand on outside of Japan. Hell even IN Japan they still didnt go after fags like Narukami or whoever that one drama channel was, they couldnt even fully take down the Dox site since screencaps make it seem like its back up. Its doubtful they can do much now that they have nothing to do with her.

>> No.44866743

>>44866319
They have the entirety of twitter on their side and we all know that's the mai platform they care about.
>>44866413
Nigga I don't give a shit. It's just being unprofessional as hell, rivalled only by Wactor being an agency from hell. This isn't how to claw back their dwindling popularity. Bitter ravenous twitter cunts aren't going to watch their streams, so appealing so heavily to them with this drama is beyond idiotic.

>> No.44866757

>>44865148
some 40-year-old who roleplays as a shota

>> No.44866772

>>44865947
That's exactly what happened, most of them left.

>> No.44866826

>>44866319
Why would they care what the catalog has to say when they set hundreds of twitter trannies on Zaion's ass already?

>> No.44866863

>>44866655
yes this is definitely the first time twitter trannies and aligned groups ganged up together to get someone fired because they were triggered by a mild joke. This has never ever happened before, very real

>> No.44866865

>>44862323
What is "That" thing that she apologized?
Sounds so vague.

>> No.44866888

>>44863213
I prefer nijitroonji as it pisses off troons and nijis that aren't troons. Both deserve to be ridiculed for being either a troon or a niji

>> No.44866927

>>44866655
>believing every single thing a corporation listed on the stock market says
imagine being this fucking retarded.

>> No.44866969

>>44866863
She was first suspended before the joke was even made.

>> No.44866989

>>44866319
>Implying they only wanted to clarify specifically because of the catalog
Nice delusion holotranny

>> No.44867155

>talking shit about a fired coworker who can't even defend herself anymore
That't it, I'm unsubscribing from this bitch feesh. I won't forgive her until she makes some proper gagging noises on her dick sucking asmr videos. Just sucking on a lollipop isn't doing it for me anymore.

>> No.44867249

in 2 weeks the troons will have something else to be cry about. It's in their nature
in 1 week there will another nijiyab and zaion will be forgotten. They can't help themselves


Not too worried about Zaion in all honesty

>> No.44867426

>>44862323
>>44862348
Just seeing finana shitting on Zaion you can already guess how things happened.
It's so obvious how they try to blame her for all that random bullshit when literally Ethyria has done worse and on a weekly basis.
What's the point of doing all this shit for just a graduation? It's not like she pissed on their floors or ruined someone's life, she just didn't fit with them and they are trying to resort into victimhood and it makes them look worse.

>> No.44867471

Imagine if Finana wasn't lied to, she was just a retard who misunderstood the problem.

>> No.44867546

Of course this stupid bitch comes out to lie about someone who can't defend herself.
Might as well show off your nudes, Finana. It's the only thing you might be good at outside of crying about the word trap.

>> No.44867601

>>44865947
All of her original fans ditched her when the news broke

>> No.44867698

>>44865708
Man, if only there was a few screenshots of their opinions on her now that could be combined with this image to create a before/after image...

>> No.44867919

>>44866413
>SHE SAID TAIWAN WAS A COUNTRY SHE DID IT, I HAVE PROOF, MY SEETHING RAGE IS VALID
I'd say nijitrannies are as bad as zhangs but they probably literally are the same people

>> No.44868129

Its fucked up to see all of NijiEN throw Zaion under the bus, fuck these backstabbing cunts and the tranny managers

>> No.44868171

this is a bit weird desu, zaion did all this when she just debuted?
how did she have time to even collab will all of these people for them to know her so well to shit on her?
especially when she literally was suspended for months…

>> No.44868191

feesh's numbers are in the shitter and appealing to the anti zaion crowd isn't going to boost her numbers

>> No.44868223

>>44863077
>https://files.catbox.moe/mav7p0.mp4
I'm still looking for the racist part in this shit. Franklin doesn't belong here because he's not dressed like a rapper who earns enough for 200 million dollar villa.
Unironically, living in your mom basement and spouting nigger 24/7 on a forum make you forget what real racism looks like. That and you're a bitch bot.

>> No.44868301

>>44867426
Instead of taking the right stance and ignoring and burying it, they're feeding into the drama constantly. Reap what you sew I guess.

>> No.44868382

>>44862348
>One of my coworkers got fired? Time to bring her up and start flinging shit at her for no reason at all

>> No.44868391

>>44862323
tl;dr: Finana is dumb and easy to manipulted, see how all her groomer makes her fall to obilivion

>> No.44868503

>>44862784
Yugo and Zaion termination makes Rushia termination looks like nothingburgur

>> No.44868547

>>44868382
Her actual, current coworkers are being harassed and being called liars.

>> No.44868640

>>44868547
until her current coworkers stand up against the harassment of someone who cant defend themselves they deserve to be called cunts

>> No.44868707

>>44868503
Not really. Especially Yugo's, it was pretty uneventful.

>> No.44868759

>>44868191
I'd say she knows better, but this already happened when she appealed to the trannies, a fuck ton that flooded her discord, ditched her as soon as the whole "Trap" thing blew over,

>> No.44868786

>>44868547
Its because its true tho

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>>44868640
Some anon posted this. It's clearly wrong. They're all irredeemable cunts

>> No.44868932

>>44868640
it is quite telling that literally nobody has said that they wish people would stop celebrating zaion's graduation or at least stop harassing her on twitter while they're telling their extremely traumatic experiences about the times when zaion made a "sponsored Dee's Nuts" joke without consulting management

>> No.44868953

>>44868547
Maybe they should have Kyo actually address the thing he did on his RM account and face consequences, but we know that isn't happening

>> No.44868993

imagine being more retarded than fina and getting fired for it. theres willingness in it for sure, a death drive. if anything shes farming irrationality.

>> No.44869010

>>44866927
>Everything is a conspiracy

>> No.44869097

>>44868932
it's crazy that they havent issued a basic "please dont dox/harass anyone" statement even just to cover their own asses

>> No.44869125

>>44868953
That'd mean that stupid wigger learned a lesson on how to be mature for once but everyone knows that being mature isn't something he'd ever do.

>> No.44869149

>>44865148
My little brother husband

>> No.44869189

>>44869097
its not crazy, shes not part of the company anymore, no one has to care about her anymore.

>> No.44869282

I'll be easy for zaion to beat all of the 3view nijis when she returns, but if she wants to be big like Yugo she'll have to drop some receipts and I hope she does because that'll be the juiciest drama for the rest of this year

>> No.44869321

>>44869189
Ofc. Pretending to care is good PR.

>> No.44869326

>>44869189
ok wactor CEO

>> No.44869358

A lot of anons are being weird.
>Zaion did nothing wrong!
>Some chuubas come out and say they’re sorry but believe Zaion was rightfully terminated and they say on stream some of the reasons as to why
>Anons: what the fuck stop telling us, you guys are dogpiling on her! She dindu nothing wrong! Family btw!
Feels like you guys just want to hear what you want to hear

>> No.44869415

>>44869010
it's simply a question of who has the most to lose. the answer is the publicly traded corporation. occam's razor and all that.

>> No.44869452

>>44869358
Woah what pfft no.

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>>44862610
>finana
>innocent and trusting

>> No.44869515

>>44869189
because they're a black company, sure

>> No.44869526

>>44869358
Hardly anyone has a problem with the termination, basically everyone capable of basic empathy has a problem with the ongoing character assassination by a major corporation against someone who can't defend themselves.

>> No.44869545

>>44869492
She's trusting of trannies.

>> No.44869638

>>44869358
>nooooo they have to shit on a former employee because people on 4chan might speak poorly of them

you're both retarded and mentally ill

>> No.44869677

>>44869358
its just a mask off moment for a lot of them, their "happy family" narrative falls apart under this new scrutiny regardless of the truth
if zaion is innocent - then they are being made to make her out like the devil when she's in a position where she cannot defend herself
if zaion is guilty - then they did not in the slightest express these opinions until after she was fired which itself is telling of their act, it basically breaks the kayfabe

regardless of which way the coin lands, its drastically altered perception of the "cohesiveness" of nijiEN

>> No.44869862

>>44862323
Okay, but is this actually lying or just management being awful at communicating

>> No.44870321

>>44869862
probably a mix of both since most of nijiEN wouldn't have had the chance to get to know the new gen especially Zaion since she was suspended so much

>> No.44870565

>>44865708
such a big family!

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>>44869358
I don’t care that she was terminated, I think it’s a problem that Nijisanji listed shit that’s extremely retarded like the raid: shadow legends joke in the list of wrongdoings she committed as a ploy to make her look worse
And I think it’s wrong that other livers have done far worse things but get away with it and continue to get away with it. Nijisanji should have listed what their ACTUAL issues with her were (likely the pirating mention seeing how picrel went for them and probably her unwillingness to cooperate) instead of putting a fucking grocery list of hypocrisy

>> No.44870649

>>44869862
and even if it was a lie, is it such a big lie that the entire company should be spending days attacking her over it? When she can't defend herself even?

>> No.44870676

>>44869321
>>44869326
that has nothing to do with black company, theres no responsibility towards her anymore, unless she does something to break NDA.

>> No.44870779

>>44870676
nobody cares if you die

>> No.44870808

>>44870649
>entire company
>most dont even know who zaion is
you people really think nijien is all nijisanji kek

>> No.44870942

>>44870676
i already thanked you once mr. wactor CEO

next time you terminate a talent remember to put their mother's name and address on the notice to really give them a lesson about not crossing you

>> No.44870953

>>44870676
fucking pipkin pippa and shotou can manage a "dont harass anyone" tweet for randos on twitter but nijisanji cant? you only make your shit company look worse by being a cunt

>> No.44870949

So, what are Pomu and Elira going to say when it's their turns to be trotted out in front of the crowd in order to deliver some more kicks to Zaion?

>> No.44870984

>>44870649
>entire company
>when it's just nijien
>when it's actually just a few of her wavemates (the ones she would have been talking to the most) + someone who was actually affected by her actions (and tried to help her out by collabing with her)
>"entire company"

>> No.44871093

>>44870942
>>44870984
retards

>> No.44871334

>>44869358
I know for sure she was terminated for all the right reasons. I believe that those reasons are mostly dumb and were done countless of times by others (Enna, wigger etc). It's Anycolor right to terminate anyone and I don't bother, I'll follow her on her indie path. But it's fucking cruel to now, all of a sudden to have stream after stream of another Niji member basically "yeah, serves her right" instead of "we know you want to know more, but sorry, none of your business, move past that " or at least some fucking decency in saying "we have our differences but please don't harass her or doxx her". What they did instead? Allowed for MONTH of doxxing, harassment and fantasy storytelling about Zaion from Twitter faggots, while doing NOTHING. And once she's terminated they welcome any harassment, once again doxxing, and talents are basically like "she sure was bad and didn't learn her lesson". I don't really care what she did, but she deserves to have peaceful termination not a bunch of trannies that will follow her every step of the way, and no matter what she did, it's Anycolor fault for allowing this to happen.

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>>44870953
It's because nijiniggers want to harass her. They're trying to dig up dirt on her in the /nijiEN/ general so they can harass her out of the internet entirely. NijiEN management is already pandering to these schizos and they don't believe in half measures.

>> No.44871438

>>44862348
I’m so tired of zoomers using the term gaslighting wrong holy shit. Being lied to isn’t gaslighting. Actual gaslighting leads you into thinking you’re going insane, that’s part of the definition.

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>>44863077

>> No.44871488

>>44870942
Imagine being the retard making those arguments

>> No.44871510

>>44871438
Remember it's coming from the same mouth that wanted to educate people on "trap".

>> No.44871602

>>44871382
>>44871334
Only in vt and vt related spaces you can see retards like this. amazing how this place is a shithole.

>> No.44871669

>>44871438
People use literaly and figuratively interchangeably these days, anon. That ship sailed long ago.

>> No.44871748

>>44871602
Sure, now can you go back to plebbit and be a good pacifist drone?

>> No.44871773

>>44871602
>Only in vt and vt related spaces you can see retards like this
also in nyfco

>> No.44871803

>>44871602
Ok Kyo

>> No.44871819

>>44871602
also on twitter, they're really trying to harass her there

>> No.44871833

>>44871602
go back to twitter, never return

>> No.44872048

>>44871510
Yeah, true.
>>44871669
I know but that doesn’t make those people any less retarded for doing it. I don’t care if I become the modern day grammar nazi, I want zoomers to stop butchering the words they use.

>> No.44872062

>>44871382
What did she leave behind that they have to deal with? They made her the antichrist and rallied all the twitter freaks behind them.

>> No.44872104

>>44871602
Said while spamming her dox on twitter dot com.

>> No.44872118

>>44871602
Then why are you here? Obsessed, much?

>> No.44872138

its funny how its only the incels defending zaion

>> No.44872145

>>44872062
Each Xsoleil member had to write a 5 page apology essay to Raid Shadow Legends for the sheer disrespect they had to endure

>> No.44872272

>>44862323
I'm not watching finana kys nigger

>> No.44872365

>>44872138
Guilty as charged.

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>>44872138

>> No.44872510

>>44872138
>incels
So true sister, let us celebrate their death on our doxxsite.

>> No.44872678 [DELETED] 

>>44872138
>Blah blah muh incels
This word is almost as meaningless as trannies at thisvpiunt
Kys

>> No.44872802

>>44862784
Even Kawaii didn’t drag Oceana as much and she did much much worse

>> No.44872804

>>44872138
>Blah blah muh incels
This word is almost as meaningless as trannies at this point. Kys.

>> No.44872862

>>44866646
Non-disparagement clauses are typical in NDAs.

>> No.44872909

>>44872802
Yeah, they had like one stream and done with topic, and according to kawaii and talents she doxxed them, which seems to be a bigger offence than raid shadow legends meme and unfinished rape joke

>> No.44872952

All I'm getting is they're trying to get ahead of Zaion potentially airing NijiEN's dirty laundry.

>> No.44873088

>>44863699
Management is clearly trying to damage control by talking through and using the other talents as human shields, going "nonono Zaion was bad, we fired her for good reason, see (your oshi) hates Zaion, you wouldn't wanna disappoint your oshi now would you?"

Which is to say, scummy and makes them look ever-more petty the harder they try to bend over to justify it. None of the shit excuses they're spamming can explain why almost everything they cited Zaion did, other Nijis did, sometimes multiple times, and yet NOW it's a problem when Zaion did it. I don't buy the "well she did it all at once vs the others taking longer", if it's a fucking fireable offense then to actually-be level they need to go terminate a bunch of other talents. It's like going "well this rapist here did the crimes over years, here and there, so that's not as bad as one who did it a bunch back to back, we'll hire the chronic rapist but make sure to fire the short-term one."

>> No.44873143

Man, with friends like these who needs antis?

>> No.44873151

>>44872909
>they had like one stream and done with topic
Together, or did only 1 talent talk about it?

>> No.44873178

>>44872952
Still in the wrong.

>> No.44873277

>>44864436
Fuck off Kyo

>> No.44873327

>>44873151
As far as I remember, it was one group stream and afterwards it was usual business. Of course, I might have missed something, but I'm almost sure that Reina didn't brought this up again. I welcome ofc to be corrected.

>> No.44873377

>>44872952
This. The fact that they're going this hard, makes me think she knows something that they'd rather see buried.

>> No.44873535

>>44872952
Yep, it's too coordinated.

>> No.44873679

>>44866743
They have the entirety of Reddit and YT against them

>> No.44873709

>Finana of all people complaining about lying and manipulation
kek

>> No.44873802

>>44873709
What did she lie about before? Having a private discord and sharing her audition video isn't lying.

>> No.44873856

>>44862323
We only hear one side of the story. Zaion will never get her side out, due to the NDA's.

>> No.44873975

>>44873802
Concealing something is also considered lying nijisister

>> No.44873979

You know, all remaining members and future members will be swarmed when they do any of the things listed that zaion did and it's going to hilarious to watch them try to justify it
someone is 100% going to do a "this stream is sponsored by" joke again because they've done it multiple times not just with raid, but with shit like audible and nordvpn

>> No.44873999

>>44873088
>Management is clearly trying to damage control by talking through and using the other talents as human shields, going "nonono Zaion was bad, we fired her for good reason, see (your oshi) hates Zaion, you wouldn't wanna disappoint your oshi now would you?"
Yeah, im sure thats what happened, its not like the members have their own opinions about her just like they had about other graduated members
> None of the shit excuses they're spamming can explain why almost everything they cited Zaion did, other Nijis did, sometimes multiple times, and yet NOW it's a problem when Zaion did it.
None of those members did that in 2 months and all of that. Always has been a retarded argument but you still use it.

>> No.44874038

>>44862323
This shit is getting ridiculous.
It's like a /vt/ rrat but real.

>> No.44874063

>>44873535
yeah, too coordinated. Its not like she was terminated a day ago and some of them are giving their opinion about it, while others just chose to remain silent about it.

>> No.44874091

>>44873975
esl?

>> No.44874117

>>44872138
back to doxxsite with you, wench.

>> No.44874134

>>44862323
So people make fun of Ewiwa and her clique but apparently the most retarded EN member got some power.

>> No.44874167

>>44873979
only if they are braindead and dont understand its the adding of all of those things and showing no signal of wanting to change. Interpretation really isnt the forte for schizos.

>> No.44874182

>>44873535
Because they are a clique

>> No.44874226

>>44873999
I didn't know there was a random 2 month rule seafag
but please tell me about how bad it is to make a raid shadow legends joke. also tell me which one personally offended you, because unless you are a niji employee I don't know why you care this much

>> No.44874268

its funny how anons are acting like there's a smear campaing about zaion from members and management when only her genmates, pomu and finana talked about her
the rest of the EN members havent said anything and just chose to remain silent

>> No.44874277

>>44871602
go back scouring for more Sayu yabs in that hugbox shithole of yours named /NijiEN/ you worthless bleeding mutant freak.

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>>44874063
So true sis #nijienfamily

>> No.44874357

>>44874226
none offended me, and theres no need for such because im not the employeer.
also fucking up so much and not showing any signals to improve after being warned about it is standard in any place, but 4chan schizos wouldnt know that.

>> No.44874419

>>44874277
/Nijien/ hugbox LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO

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>>44874268
>only 7 people were talking shit, including the company saying she is make discriminatory remarks
>so not technically every single person in the company

>> No.44874482

Doesn't the fact that niji's on air talent are bringing things up mean that legally Zaion can respond, since any NDA is being violated by Niji itself?

Seems very clear that the legal team on EN side doesn't exist

>> No.44874488

>>44874277
have you ever been in that thread to think its a hugbox when they shit on everyone lol lmao

>> No.44874569

>>44874091
Concealing facts is lying, ESL or not.

>> No.44874568

>>44874434
Nijien isnt a company, its a branch.

>> No.44874617

>>44874268
Your pathetic vtuber talents are indirectly encouraging an actual witch hunt against their former membermate. If Wactor has the vilest vtuber company CEO, then NijiEN members take the cake for the vilest vtuber talents.

>> No.44874646

>>44874434
t-the janitor didnt say anything so AKSHUALLY....

>> No.44874654

>>44862348
This is some vague shit she’s spouting.

>> No.44874657

>>44874434
the point is that its not mandatory to talk about this, retard. only her genmates and two other chose to talk about that, the others just ignored the subject.

>> No.44874768

>>44874617
no one is encouraging anything to that, only giving opinions about her. If like 10 or so are doxxing her,thats on them, not on talents or the company. most fans just agree it was right to terminate her and call it a day

>> No.44874772

>>44874277
>hugbox
/NijiEN/ is for talking about how much you want to rape your oshi though

>> No.44874811

>>44874268
Still more than was said about Rushia. Hololive talents know to shut up.

>> No.44874815

Unironic twitter trannies

>> No.44874862

>>44874811
Hell even Aloe was treated better

>> No.44874903

>>44874657
>not the whole branch, only a large number of livers are talking shit
>so you can't say it's the entire branch, which mind you even if it was it wasn't the entire company, which mind you even if it was they are in the right
goal-post chama

>> No.44874912

>>44874862
I'd say even Hitomi Chris has been treated better.

>> No.44875040

>>44874768
This is the only situation I remember when they didn't address harassment or doxxing even with blanket statement "please don't harass".

>> No.44875066

So Yugo got a clean break and can join something else, while Zaion gets fired + gag order + shat on + blacklisted?

>> No.44875091

>>44869358
Learn to greentext properly

>> No.44875130

>>44875066
She attempted rape joke anon, it's a death sentence

>> No.44875224

>>44875130
As an actual unironic rape victim, I give her the rape joke pass.

>> No.44875227

>>44874768
Doing it immediately after her termination is a bad look. I would feel more inclined to agree with you that it’s just opinions and it’s harmless if this was even a few weeks out but doing it right after she got terminated makes it look like a smear campaign. It’s not a bad look just for Zaion but for the livers themselves. Good PR management would have told them to keep vague about their grievances with Zaion until things have cooled down.

>> No.44875231

>>44874772
So is hlgg you retard nigger, doesn't make them any less of holoEN hugbox.

>> No.44875292

>>44875224
Actually same, also happened to me and I though joke was funny

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>>44875066
Those 2 months at nijisanji she was constantly torturing the livers and you can tell from the interactions and collabs.

>> No.44875480

>>44862323
If you're trying to get me to hate the cat, you're doing a terrible job, I fucking hate this fish.

>> No.44875548

>>44875231
>B-B-B-BUT H-HOLOLIVE!!!!
NIJINIGGERS, NOT EVEN ONCE.

>> No.44875583

>>44875231
Except it also has a history of getting spammed with CP and gore so I don’t really see how that’s a hugbox.

>> No.44875894

>>44870575
>I don't care about her! I just want to shit on the company!!
This is what it bascially boils down to. Thanks for clearing that up.

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>>44875066
just went against the clique
picrel

>> No.44876031

>>44875894
>I have no reading comprehension because I'm a smooth brained luxnoc whore
Enlightening.

>> No.44876036

>>44873975
What did she conceal? Her private discord leak was posted in membership for them to join.

>> No.44876159

>>44875894
You don't care about her either. You never watched her streams. You just hate hololive, so by extension you must defend your nijifailures

>> No.44876200

>>44873327
that's the main difference
4 in one stream vs 4 in each other channel from Zaion wavemate now this Finana

>> No.44876244

niji defense force is cracking how much longer can they keep it up

>> No.44876311

>>44876200
Kyo is going to come back from break to shittalk too

>> No.44876333

>>44875066
Yugo left because he had a contract disagreement about music ownership rights (hence why he released an orisong right after he left Niji, something he never did when it Niji for almost a full year). He didn't do anything wrong against management or the other livers.

>> No.44876434

>>44875358
you don't know what happened to them during the month of Zaion's suspension. If you believe each Niji is a two faced lying cunt, it's not surprising Zaion was able to have cordial discussions with them before the shit hit the fan.

Fuck Kyo anyway, no one wants to know what this twink wanna say.

>> No.44876476

>>44875066
Yes, she was that much of a fuck up.
>>44875358
Despite all the shit she put them through, they still tried to encourage her and want her around more. I see nothing wrong with this.

>> No.44876536

>>44876434
>no one wants to know what this twink wanna say.
2k people watch his latest minecraft stream. Way more than Zaion ever had.

>> No.44876553

>>44863699
Yes, lets shit on the trans dude after his silent graduation, thatll sit well with Twitter schizos.

>> No.44876582

>>44874903
lets put another perspective
Yugo
alot of people talked about yugo, I am not sure if every single 25 members at the time said
But even people that keeps themselves out of drama like Selen gave her opinion on Yugo graduation
now back to Zaion
>wavemates as always are expected to speak out, yet Doppio didn't do it
>2 non-wavemates choose to speak, rest of the remaining 23 talents didn't say anything
Maria that showed to be close to Zaion also has yet to speak

>> No.44876656

>>44876434
Yeah anon I'm sure all the infractions happened offscreen while she wasn't streaming.

>> No.44876683

>>44876536
Wow, 2000 flies?

>> No.44876830

>>44876683
2k people more than Zaion will ever have. Seethe and cope.

>> No.44876926

>>44876830
>M-MUH NUMBERS
You lost Enna, just kneel.

>> No.44876994

>>44876926
Lost what? She's still employed iirc.

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>>44876830
>numberfaging out of nowhere

>> No.44877129

>>44876200
The other glaring issue is that Oceania supposedly shit talked them hard and doxxed them. Different level of offence.

>> No.44877133

>>44876994
>Y-YEAH WELL I STILL HAVE A JOB
This is just getting sad at this point, just keep on digging that hole. I'm sure Kyo will get you out of it.

>> No.44877136

>>44876994
Not for long

>> No.44877149

>>44876830
damn weren't you supposed to be suspended, Kyo?

>> No.44877162

if you're gonna numberfag then wait for her comeback

>> No.44877183

Oh great, my oshi is involved in more drama.

>> No.44877230

>>44876036
Second private Discord after she was bonked by management.

>> No.44877237

>>44877133
>This is just getting sad at this point
Having a job is sad to you?

>> No.44877292

>>44876656
Kotoka explained they were trying to reason with her during her suspension time. If you ever had to deal with a stubborn kid or a delusional bitch with egotrip, you would lose your patience and that would inevitably degrade your relationship.

The infractions themselves are not the main issue, it's dealing with a wall which is problematic.

It could have gone either way. Management wanted to please Twitter and riled up everyone against Zaion, Zaion tried to appeal on all his gen mates and now wants to taint on the whole company reputation to grief those who wronged according to her.

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>>44877046
>"no one cares what kyo has to say!"
>2k people do
>"s-stop numberfagging!!"

>> No.44877355

>>44877237
Only if your coworkers are backstabbers and snakes. I'm sure you'll be fine though, just threaten to throw them under the bus and they'll fall in line.

>> No.44877382

>>44875894
I’m a Nijifag, retard. I’m allowed to disagree with the way they’ve been handling things lately.

>> No.44877461

>>44862323
I love the picture OP used, Finana looks like a special ed girl who would be easily tricked into sex. But knowing her, would genuinely love the physical affection over the exclusion she feels for being dumb.

>> No.44877561

>>44877355
>Only if your coworkers are backstabbers and snakes
But Zaion isn't in Niji anymore.

>> No.44877599

>>44876536
The guy sings like shit, has a shit humour and a annoying voice on top of being a total normie. There's not a single reason to care about him as a vtuber.

>> No.44877601

>>44876582
doesn't really help with the bullying/smear line just because less people are involved.
the idea is a group of people in niji did not like zaion for w/e reason. maybe she is retarded idk
why go out of their way to smear her after firing her?

>> No.44877832

>>44877561
Is that what Kyo's gaslit you into thinking?

>> No.44877843

>>44877599
Yet, people still find him more interesting than Zaion. That says a lot about Zaion than about Kyo.

>> No.44877906

Pretty sure they're ganging up on her because they know she has so much dirt on them all and discrediting her as much as possible before she unleashes the atomic nuke on the branch. She's safe from NDA bullshit and the dramatubers have an axe to grind too, it's only a matter of time

>> No.44877944

>>44877843
Given that most NijiEN fans are barely people at this point I think the numbers even out

>> No.44877975

>>44877601
>why go out of their way to smear her after firing her?
When a shit person it out of the picture, it stands to reason they can feel relieved and tell their side when things are over and done with.

>> No.44878014

>>44868787
What did Fulgur do? he seems pretty normal in the colabs i've seen him in.

>> No.44878041

Maybe not need, but definitely should. The rgbt gang at large have destroyed so damn much in almost every nook of life on this planet. I don't think they're aware of how many enemies they've actually made.

>> No.44878056

You know, I don't remember Enna talking like a zoomer nig before Kyo joined

>> No.44878099

>>44874482
They know Zaion lives in a NDA-safe state. It doesn't matter

>> No.44878161

>>44877906
>"she has shit on them"
>"200 sealed discord logs"
>"two more weeks!"
You shitheads are bordering on /po/tard territory right now.

>> No.44878171

>>44878014
He was the harbinger of the yabs to come. Serious answer is he talked poorly about holoCouncil numbers in a discord chat that got leaked.

>> No.44878213

>>44863560
I mean, Pikamee didn't give them a reaction.
She made it obvious she was graduating either way, and just continued spreading happiness (which is like poison to dramafags).

>> No.44878217

>>44878161
Even if she doesn't have acreencaps of the discord or a log, she can still stir up shit about management or other lives even if it's a lie. She probably knows the deal with the concert too

>> No.44878232

>/po/

>> No.44878267

>>44877843
Zaion was actively more interested into building fame for her PL and was already invested into her self graduation. And it was hard to get into her with her suspensions and her privating any VOD. If she had tried to build a decent reputation, she could have been a good vtuber. Instead, she went for the talentless drama whore road and is actually selling her dignity to 4chan thinking she will become based for this.

>> No.44878278

>>44862323
wtf I hate Zaion now!(unironically)

>> No.44878288

>>44878056
She didn't. She totally changed the way she talks after meeting Kyo. Fucking weird shit.

>> No.44878308

>>44877975
>>44877601
nta but it still does absolutely nothing besides tank the branch's image as being a bunch of drama-prone nasty cliques. between this and the GC stream how is it even possible to see nijiEN as anything but a bunch of negative, gossipy, massively narcissistic conceited people.

>> No.44878404

>>44877975
Evidently you have never worked in a public-facing company before.

>> No.44878425

>>44878217
>she can still stir up shit about management or other lives even if it's a lie
Because that's the only thing she's got going for her right now. That is if she's even stupid enough to do it. People will stop caring if she keeps pushing the drama baiting.

>> No.44878506

>>44878308
>between this and the GC stream how is it even possible to see nijiEN as anything but a bunch of negative, gossipy, massively narcissistic conceited people.
You realize the GC stream was them parodying an average thread on /vt/, right?

>> No.44878505

>>44877601
>why go out of their way to smear her after firing her?
why not? this is what I call resentment
especially the Finana one, she is well know to hold grudges on collabs.
I can't understand this so divine professionalism you people want, at least 2 of her genmates are mad and we should expect them to never speak ill of Zaion? bruh

>> No.44878624

>>44878506
how many fucking times do we have to go over this, that literally nobody besides the absolute most tryhard fighting-back-tears denialists see that stream as anything but a massive own-goal on the branch. they had a target yes but wound up shooting themselves in the foot. blew it clean off really.

>> No.44878692

>t-t-t-t-tthey'll stop caring if she keeps the drama up
>e-e-e-every hsould shit on zaion
>the gc was just a parody and /vt/ doesn't live in their heads rent free!
holy mother of nijicucks

>> No.44878748

>>44878506
It was a retarded idea and being a poor attempt at parody doesn’t change that.

>> No.44878818

>>44873802
Well for starters she lied to pomu about their off collab at the hotel and how it would just be the two of them.

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You know, what Rushia did was way worse than anything Zaion did and not ONE member of Hololive threw her under the bus to protect the company image.

>> No.44878997

>>44878818
Pomu didn't know about that before?

>> No.44879037

>>44878818
>Finana just so happened to invite one of Pomus friends
If you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you

>> No.44879091

>>44864275
>cheated at mahjong
Whoa there, things are getting serious

>> No.44879179

>>44879037
Finana likes to invite Uki to many of her collabs, even when the original collab organizer wasn't planning to invite him. "Elira and Finana Maplestory collab? Oh let me bring Uki along!", "Selen and Finana Valo collab? Oh let me bring Uki along!"

>> No.44879191

>>44878425
Even more so because the people who enjoy drama love it because two sides throw shit at each other, but if Zaion ever comes up with a fake Discord leak, people are just gonna watch her with a look of comtempt and NijiEN members won't bother with an answer.

The best thing for Zaion as of now is striving as an indie. Trying for some revenge and dramafagging will just turn her into a lone bitter bitch. No one wants to befriend someone who screencaps your private discussions and shit on you.

>> No.44879227

>>44878972
Magnet and Pikamee too.

>> No.44879241

>>44862323
Man this reminds me of the wild west of chuubing back in 2018, companies lived and died within months, and black companies were everywhere.
I have a feeling that Zaion has a huuuge pile of dirt on them in the form of their discord logs. Possibly releasable legally as well because it was a private server that wasn't under Nijisanji.

>> No.44879273

>>44878997
wouldnt be that surprising since they have a tendency to not inform anyone of what the collab entails
see that millie gc collab that pomu backed out of because it was too vague

>> No.44879380

>>44879241
They still use their liver names while on that server, and discuss company matters on the server, so Anycolor can go after her for leaking company intellectual property if they choose to do so.

>> No.44879461

Pretty despicable to pile on someone you've already fucked off when they can't respond to anything you're claiming. Listen and believe shit.

>> No.44879513

>>44862323
I don't believe a single word out of the mouth of the "L+ ratio parasocial fucks" and "educate yourself" girl. Even if it were true, nijiEN livers should not be talking at all about Zaion, the termination is punishment enough, anything else they say is just slander meant to cripple her future career and is a shitty move.

>> No.44879667

>>44879380
considering that they chickened out that moment the dramtubers got lawyers im not so confident in anycolors legal department when it comes to jurisdictional legal stuff

>> No.44879847

>>44878972
Rushia was never an asshole to her coworkers, just the company. Zaion was an ass to management and the other vtubers in nijiEN.
Imagine desperately trying to help your friend do the literal most basic shit required to not get fired, and she just tells you to fuck off and ignores you or lies about what she's doing. No wonder no one wants anything to do with her anymore.

>> No.44879972

>>44879380
The cold hard truth is that Nijisanji is sort of powerless despite how much of a performance they put on. They can barely protect their livers even before this like how they forced Lulu to go on hiatus to deal with stalkers, even though she didn’t care and already had her own punching bag to practice on.
They can barely go after dramatubers in Japan. How can anyone expect them to even go after their own livers and someone expect to win in a court case? Especially if they don’t even live in Japan?

>> No.44879974

>>44879847
>Zaion was an ass to management and the other vtubers in nijiEN.
So she's a normal niji? All the males shit on management and Nina straight up said she was a pariah for months

>> No.44880077

>>44879667
Dramatubers didn't sign an NDA, and the things Anycolor was trying to take their channels down for were protected by Fair Use. Zaion obviously signed an NDA when she joined Niji, so they do have grounds to pursue legal action if she does start disclosing private internal matters.

>> No.44880081

>>44879847
rushia was going menhera about some coworker who was actively trying to catch her own viewership. But she didn't give a name so it doesn't really taint her relations with the others. Plus, people have known for a really long time compared to Zaion.

>> No.44880127

>>44879847
I think Zaion saw all the other shit the others were getting away with and didn't take it seriousy figuring the management would never actually make good on firing her. Which was incorrect obviously, but to me it's obvious that there was a long fucking precedent of nijiENs being able to do almost anything they want and not really feel much fire for it and it's been like that for almost 2 years now. Which does to me suggest she was treated with a fucking massive double standard compared to the others aka yes clique bubble really truly is a thing.

I wonder if part of the difference is because Zaion can actually speak in Japanese, that if NijiJP headquarters people wanted to have a word with her directly, they could do so, and they take their shit more seriously there and run a tighter ship unlike the basically nonexistent way that nijiEN "runs." So some upper dude at headquarters probably was shocked at the attitude and violations Zaion was doing when actually it was not really all that out of line for NijiENs at all and thought she in particular was a huge problem and not just the entire fucking branch.

>> No.44880320

>>44880127
It's not even out of line from what nijiJP does, JPs can do way more retarded stuff if anything. On the other hand Hex is commiting crimes unseen in the entire community but it's ok since he makes money apparently

>> No.44880337

>>44880127
also to expand on my own post a bit here I wonder if part of the reasoning Zaion got treated so much more harshly would be if someone was tattling on her to upper management because they just don't like her (like if she refused to be part of the clique) and tried to amplify anything she was doing to make her seem worse than she is. Kinda looks that way since a bunch of her VODs got privated right away and people were usually like "huh, what the fuck did she even say there that was yab" here, as if someone was just itching, dripping with precum waiting for her to make the slightest fucking mistake so they could go howling to the management. What a bunch of fuckwads, seriously.

>> No.44880420

>>44865298
>we'll be able to piece the two sides together and figure out whats really going on.
It's up to debate whether she's just being impulsive or really trying to speedrun her graduation. But it's clear that her behavior doesn't suit corpo vtuber, hence everyone throwing her under the bus.
In any case, her fate was already sealed back in early December. It's a shame that she didn't try to change it.

>> No.44880423

>>44880077
nda doesnt apply now since anycolor was the one who aired out the dirty laundry first so she has free game when it comes to a response

>> No.44880529

>>44880127
>>44880337
I have a feeling most of the newer hires in Iluna and Xsoliel dont want anything to do with the clique shit which is why theres some disconnect between the newer and older waves

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>>44871602
>only in vt and vt related spaces
>xer types while spreading her doxx on twitter
Contribute to the 47% you pond scum mistake of a creature

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>>44864863
But I never hate trannies before this shit, I always think they exist in another world, and I realized too late that I was wrong...

>> No.44880997

>>44879847
> Rushia was never an asshole to her coworkers,
> "what is FAQ, was she making fun of me?"
> "why is Aqua senpai streaming in my timeslot? this is bullying!"

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>>44876476

>> No.44881316

>>44880997
Rushia only streamed at 3 AM even to this day.

>> No.44881367

>>44880127
She literally had two suspension periods to cut the shit.

It's not like they just suddenly decided to fire her.

>> No.44881462

>>44879847
>Zaion was an ass
>James was an ass
sounds like they were 2GD for their employer

>> No.44881563

>>44880127
I mean Pomu literally talked about lying in her Niji audition a few months ago, paraphrasing
> I'm in NijiEN, what're they gonna do, fire me?
and even encouraged future applicants to lie on their auditions stating "fake it till you make it".

>> No.44881634

I love how all the nijisisters brought out the "she wasn't being professional this is a company you are supposed to be professional," and yet we see all of these niji's with highly unprofessional track records vagueposting in public about how a former coworker sucked.

>> No.44881660

>>44881367
oh its two now?
damn you guys keep changing your narrative so often and then wonder why no one believes your sorry asses.

>> No.44881770

>>44881660
Read the official statement. She got a silent suspension in January to clean up her act, she returned and didn't improve, so she got a full suspension in February

>> No.44881913

>>44881563
>make niji recruiters actually check & verify people's recruitment applications
Dare, I say, based?

>> No.44881995

>>44881563
Yeah considering that as well as all the other flavors of yab the branch had done, it looked rather like you couldn't actually-get fired from NijiEN unless you went and took a shit on Riku's desk or leaked internal sensitive stuff.

Although, Yugo did get canned too it seemed but it was more ambiguous like just too menhera to do the job obviously and had public menhera breakdowns suggesting things weren't at all going well on her end well in advance. Basically with Yugo it was more like a "it's for the best for both of us" kind of thing with no connection to clique shit while it looks like Zaion didn't wanna go but was ousted over clique shit.

>> No.44882044

>>44881913
It is kinda funny to think, all a recruiter had to do was go research Mint's content and realize that no she was talking completely out her fucking ass.

Or maybe they did know but thought she was still an ideal candidate otherwise for the Holo-like approach they had with Lazusydia.

>> No.44882382

>>44881660
?

She had a "break", but the press release all but confirmed it was a stealth suspension so they could work with her compliance over stream policy.

>> No.44883333

I'm trying to figure out which one of Zaion's offenses would require any more than 1 person to realize it's not a good idea
>Hey Finana, think it would be cool to use a copyrighted song? You know, since we never have to unarchive our karaokes and even our most senior members never get bonked for this shit
>What about doxxing our internal info to my super yesmen brownnosers? think that might be an issue?
>Well what about if, hear me out now, during my suspension i go roaming around as my PL and start dropping hints?
>AIDS and Rape jokes, those are still in right?
>What about trying to push for Hogwarts Legacy? Surely Nijisanji would love me talking about THE most talked about game right now, right?
>Surely they're okay with me playing pirated games or emulators? Who doesn't enjoy those?
>Ya GOTTA tell me shit talking Nijisanji execs and other members is okay nowadays Feesh, ya just GOTTA
>Make up perm greenlights, I gotta have at least that! Can't go around actually ASKING for shit, i'm from the indie scene
>People don't actually CHECK our sponsorships, do they?
>Well Finana, i'm just all thumbs with this, and if you're not gonna help me, i'm gonna go around and hit up socmed on NijiAnti vids/sites

>> No.44883460

>>44883333
>listing a rape joke that she didn't even finish
asian + woman+ twitterfag is a bad combo

>> No.44883538

>>44862323
What kind of faggot falls for a story told afterward?

>> No.44883587

>>44883538
Feesh is not exactly quick on the draw for things that she actually wants to talk about (her new outfit for example), so imagine shit she's seemingly ashamed of

>> No.44883632

>>44883587
Don't care, I don't even know who you're talking about. I never believe someone's story if it's in response to an event like this. They have a reason to make shit up.

>> No.44883761

>>44883632
Why would Finana make up a story to intentionally get into the crossfire of a massive fiasco she was 100% clear from until this point.
Despite all the hate and rrats, Finana is not so stupid that she'd give herself actual drama for 0 beneficial reason

>> No.44883804

>>44883761
>why would she make up a story
the exact same reason why she would tell the truth retard, shit can't be trusted.

>> No.44883840

>>44883761
because zaion was hated and finana has bitchy about sjw shit in the past. wouldn't suprise me a bunch of people didn't like zaion for one reason or another and use this opportunity to bitch

>> No.44883848

>>44883804
This is just asinine.

>> No.44883891

>>44883848
Trusting the people doing the "cancelling" is just foolish, don't know what to tell you

>> No.44883945

>>44883761
> Finana is not so stupid that she'd give herself actual drama for 0 beneficial reason

But she's done exactly that with the trap/educate yourself shit, and exactly out of being stupid/naive. If there was a post-purge campaign to vilify Zaion she'd easily partake in it as part of the clique defense force without really thinking about it.

>> No.44883983

>>44883840
But Zaion is a SJW too. Look at the group she is a part of on Twitch. Multiple mentions of "supporting non-binary and people of marginalized genders".

>> No.44883989

>>44883891
Finana isn't "cancelling" anyone, she's just giving testimony.

This is beyond stupid. You're being stupid.

>> No.44884012

>>44883761
>Finana is not so stupid that she'd give herself actual drama for 0 beneficial reason
Anon already forgot about the trap fiasco or the audition tape leak fiasco

>> No.44884033

>>44883989
I'm always right, sorry.

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>>44883983
yeah? I mean they got a history of eating themselves. I don't think you were making the good point you thought you were making

>> No.44884080

>>44884035
>you can't trust this SJW, but you can trust this one!
No, I don't trust any SJWs, so I don't think Zaion is innocent

>> No.44884194

>>44884080
We already see the claims levvied against her, the jury finds Nijisanji the guilty party.

>> No.44884229

>>44884080
I don't know zaion is innocent. I doubt she didn't do some bad stuff.
but the list of shit given is not something worth bitching about. they should've just released a statement saying "we couldn't come to an arrangement" and leave it at that

>> No.44884481

>>44862323
Why Zaion would ask Finana for help with management when she shared manager with Selen? This fish is ridiculous...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtQnPdjJxEw&ab_channel=DailyDoseofNijisanjiEN

>> No.44884545

>>44884481
Because it was probably something related to Final Fantasy 14, which Zaion streamed while Finana was on her Honkai trip (which was the trip she mentioned in the clip), which Selen would obviously not know anything about.

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I think EN "livers" are in this thread
I also think they're whores.

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