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44808982 No.44808982 [Reply] [Original]

>Hololive
>rules are so strict and oppressive that you can't breathe without your manager's permission + they didn't do jack shit to protect Coco

>Nijisanji
>90% of them are boring, forgettable nobodies, the rest can't go a day without a scandal + managers are braindead

>VShojo
>VShojo

>PhaseConnect
>Only relevant because of Pippa

>> No.44809098

What makes Vshojo bad in current year?

>> No.44809184

>>rules are so strict and oppressive that you can't breathe without your manager's permission
Look who just saw Subaru's video and tweet.

>> No.44809224
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Phase Connect is only good because it has Tenma.

>> No.44809297
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>>44808982
Not really, Idol is already turning pozzed with the girls wanting to own the incels and do male collabs to spite them (picrel). Kawaii has all the necessary ingredients to be a good corpo but they're boring as shit. Prism who?

>> No.44809371

>>44809297
Fuyo is great. Shut he fuck up.

>> No.44809375
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>>44809224
ESL hag is based

>> No.44809410

>>44809297
fameely is the ntr audience this is exactly what they want

>> No.44809418
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>>44808982

>> No.44809454

>>44808982
The corporation+ branch where Pekora actually is is the only good one. All of the others are rotten to the core and should be dismissed.

>> No.44809462

>>44809297
>literal ntr stream

>> No.44809509

>>44809098
/vt/ users are incels so they don't like when females talk about having sex

>> No.44809604

>>44809418
I used to think this was a schizo post but after seeing the entire EN scene for the past year, they were 100% correct.

>> No.44809649

>>44809418
Never doubt the sign

>> No.44809754

>>44808982
HoloJP is best
Worst is Watcor, closely followed by NijiEN and VShojo

>> No.44809775

>>44809418
Ironically the date on that post was right about when their management went strict and Hololive stopped being good. You can tell that it's only newfags who weren't around for the golden era still reposting it.

>> No.44809804

I enjoy V&U. Extremely "who" moments, though.

>> No.44809866

>>44808982
>>Only relevant because of Pippa
Shiina getting 600 ccv, Tenma ranges between 600-2000 ccv, Lia 400-1000, Lumi 700-3000, Erina 200-500. To say it's "only" pippa is ignant. They're not 2000000 CCV like gura, but gura doesn't stream. Looking at how a lot of holoen girls are in the 1-2k area now and nijigirls are literally getting 300-500 ccv, Phase connect is doing pretty fine.

Also I liked Hime's 'asmr' where she shaved her pits. And Uruka is funny because she's retarded. And Airi is very asian big tits goo times.

>> No.44809970

>>44809509
My experience with incels is actually that they want an attractive woman to like them without actually putting in any real effort to better themselves into the 'chads' they hate, revolting against the concept that there is a tier list of men from attractive to unattractive.

Puritans/no3dpd posters are a separate thing from incels, who prefer women to not be fucking sluts. Incels don't care if women are sluts, they want women to be sluts FOR THEM but will never put any effort into attracting them because they think women should like them for who they are.

>> No.44810015

>>44808982
holo EN being strict because EN is a hella of a place to live. u can't play wizard game without angering lot tranny. look at JP n ID with their absurd stream. EN Management is just as bad as any EN corpo management out there.

>> No.44810070

Phase connect girls are too crazy to oshi. It's like going to the zoo and getting to meet the animals, which is cool, but I wouldn't want to take a tiger home.

>> No.44810086

>>44809509
nice red herring, Froot

>> No.44810220

>>44810086
Not wrong however, /vt/ users are unironically incels. Literally cannot refute that when you take one fucking glance at the subhuman retards that use this board. Me included.

>> No.44810485

>>44810070
Says you, I would love to have a tiger st home. It's better home defences than a pit bull!

>> No.44810512

>>44808982
I miss the time when Miko constantly says FAQ

>> No.44810643

>>44809970
>Incels don't care if women are sluts
Yea they do. It makes them jealous and mad.

>> No.44810671

>>44810485
https://youtu.be/Znpnf9D2VIk?t=58

>> No.44810676

>>44808982
how do I know what incels enjoy, just consume what hololive put out like a good goy

>> No.44810724

>>44810643
I literally explained it in my post that they want the women to be sluts for them, they don't care if a woman is generally a slut, they're mad that they're sucking chad's dick and not their dick too. This is different from purists who want virgins, unicrons who want to destroy cybertron and gachikoi who want their idol to retire if she's going to get a boyfriend so they can wish her well and move on to another idol.

>> No.44811068

>>44810643
No, most men generally don't respect sluts, because they are sluts.
Incels are usually the only ones that like sluts, because it means they have a chance so they tend to white knight them.

>> No.44811195

>>44808982
Phase connect, connecting you to NTR

>> No.44811538

>>44808982
rumao nijiniggers really are trying to put blackedsanji and hololive in the same basket

>> No.44811547

>>44808982
Hololive are both strict and lenient in a certain way. They build their own standards instead of following trends or moral codes of twitter or other social media. They don't frequently punish their talents and only punish their talents for behind the scene misconduct, but rarely for on stream contents. If oppsie happens then VODs just get taken down or edited. They allow a lot of stream materials that push the boundary of socially acceptable for the sake of entertainment. They are only paranoid due to the fucking "Holocaust' incidence and talent harrassment in the past in the first place. Hololive isn't really afraid doing some wrong think but they are concerned by lawsuit griefing since they are bigger than ever now.

>> No.44811593

>>44809775
You want more dumpster fires of infighting and backstabbing over stupid american politics like Vshojo and NijiEN?

>> No.44811681

>>44810643
Stop projecting and touch grass, cuck-kun

>> No.44811711

>>44811593
No I want pre 2021 Hololove you illiterate retard.

>> No.44811816

>>44809224
>>44809375
The point in favor of Phase Connect is transparency. You know from the getgo that you're in for mentally ill girls and an incompetent CEO that catherds the girls into making him money, and will bonk them if they misbehave too much, but otherwise will look the other way...

>> No.44811844

>>44809509
low effort bait do better

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>>44808982
Watch other PhaseConnect chuubas numberfag

>> No.44811982

>>44808982
>hololive
>oppresive
They look like the real freedom and lesser of the evils after vshojo and nijien yabs.

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>>44808982

>> No.44812105

>>44811068
One of the main incubators of incel culture was a forum called sluthate.com

>> No.44812158

>>44808982
Go watch the smaller corpos like Kawaii or Idol or Eien. Or just watch indies, like the ex-Tsunderia girls. 2views are a better experience anyways since they'll actually read your chat messages, and their communities will usually have fewer schizos and less drama.

>> No.44812377

>>44811816
>an incompetent CEO
If Sakana is incompetent, then Tazumi is turboincompetent?

>> No.44812420

>>44809098
Anon, literally all they do is talk about pussy and dick. That's their entire shtick. They aren't even horny or anything, they just don't know what to say beyond that. Stale, crusty ass whores in a stale, crusty ass company because no one else wants them

>> No.44812446

>>44808982
>didn't do jack shit to protect Coco
Nigger they literally dissolved an entire branch and fired multiple people for her sake

>> No.44812546
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>>44809224
This. Pippa is astroturfed on here, which skews the perception. When it reality only Tenma is worth watching.

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>>44812420
That's also all Marine does and I don't see you complaining about her

>> No.44812607

>>44811816
He doesn't seem so incompetent considering the company is just growing more and more.

>> No.44812662

>>44812585
she did it first*, so she gets a pass

>> No.44812684

>>44812585
It may seem like that to an EOP clipwatcher.

>> No.44812700

>>44812585
Remember - "It's ok if she's Japanese" is unironically, 100% true, it's not just a meme

>> No.44812747

>>44812585
Nigger, we're talking about an entire CORPO as opposed to one member out of what, 70? If you're into crusty ass whores then by all means, but your argument is stupid as fuck. Marine is barely a percent of hololive

>> No.44812756

>>44812446
yea and then the bitch up and leaves - which i could forgive, but then stabs her old friends in the back with her much better new american "family" that posts troll advertisements all over japan about "talent freedom" any good will for her is wasted

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>>44812747

>> No.44812794

>>44812756
Well yeah, I agree. But that's an entirely different issue than "cover didn't help Coco"

>> No.44812837

>>44812774
>kronii talking about her jaw surgery not being able to open her mouth beyond two fingers
Way to out yourself clipnigger

>> No.44812868

>>44812446
>>44812756
Cover didn't fire HoloCN for Coco, they did it because Yagoo fucked up massively with his apology and they lost their entire business plan in the country.

>> No.44812936

>>44812868
Keep chinking on that pooh dick, faggot

>> No.44813040

>>44812868
Finally a non-retarded anon.
Btw, Coco's manager accidentally gave some antis in her chat mod rights instead of banning them because apparently telling apart two fucking buttons is too complex.

>> No.44813070

>>44809297
>picrel
I don't get it. The only collab I see is that rimmu person. Is it a guy? Even so its just valorant

>> No.44813159

>>44812607
Yes and no? Kudos for keeping the ship afloat, but I can't say for sure how much of his success is due to actually maing good plans for the company and how much is just him staying quiet while all the other small corpos around him are destroying themselves and sinking all on their own. It's a Luigi in Mario Party situation.

>> No.44813233

>>44810220
I have been in a relatonship for over 8 years. Maybe you should not generalize an entire board? Also, keep your legs closed, slut. You wont get a decent husband otherwise. It should be easy, since you don't have to do shit beyond not being a whale to get one, unlike men.

>> No.44813409

>>44813070
He's been seething since it was announced despite Juna being upfront since the beginning about doing male collabs at some point, if you don't like that specifically there's plenty to choose from, the rest of idol is great

>> No.44813472

>>44813409
That doesn't answer my question though. What is that anon seething about in picrel?

>> No.44813486

>>44812936
Cover's Chinese operation relied on several dozens of volunteer translators for the JP talents, and all of them quit, taking the vast majority of their existing translated videos with them. Thus they lost all the channels for HoloJP talents, who were the moneymakers, not HoloCN. They were then left with a small group that didn't make much money, as well as a bunch of Chinese staff members they had to pay. And any hope of growing the branch was dashed, as the Hololive brand became toxic in the country. People weren't going to donate money to HoloCN any more even if they tried to stay. Thus the branch was not viable.

Saying "they fired them for Coco" is a retarded oversimplification.

>> No.44813498

>>44812585
You didn't even watch the clip

>> No.44813547

>>44812774
I didn't see you did it twice kek

>> No.44813554

>>44813498
Why would I waste my time watching slut clips? I look at the thumbnail and draw judgement based on that.

>> No.44813665

>>44813554
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vxNy3_9g70Q
Watch the clip at least

>> No.44813683

>>44813665
I don't watch whores

>> No.44813742

>>44813472
Juna is collabing with Rimmu, male

>> No.44813747

>>44813683
So this is how Vshojofags are arguing, huh

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>>44808982
>PhaseConnect
>Only relevant because of Pippa
What did you just say?

>> No.44813763

>>44808982
I mean the only obvious answer is that you should watch indies.

>> No.44813864

>>44808982
I think all nonholo corpos like voms, phase connect, vshojo should collab more with each other. Except for Niji. Fuck Niji.

>> No.44813873

>>44813747
So this is how Holofags are Englishing, huh

>> No.44813978

>>44813760
Do you understand internet men now?
Did you educate yourself?

>> No.44814006

>>44812868
>>44813486
Found the west taiwanese

>> No.44814032

>>44808982
What about Kawaii?

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>>44814006
I have said nothing positive about China in my posts you ESL retard. Learn to read.

>> No.44814391

>>44813760
Has she streamed with her boyfriend recently?

>> No.44814681

>>44808982
STFU Zhang

>> No.44814850

>>44808982
Phase Connect has Tenma, Panko, Shiina, Lia who are great. It's not just Pippa.

>> No.44814911

>>44808982
The only good corpo is a dead corpo. Corpo are all for profit hence are all evil.

>> No.44815037

>>44813486
Cover lost China market because they are siding with Coco that's the point you retard

>> No.44815056

>>44808982
I like Idol. They seem to let the girls do whatever and they're all fun and stream a lot.

Vshojo seems to have little managerial oversight beyond Nazuna who pretty much has to have a tard wrangler.

>> No.44815273

>>44815037
Still wrong. They irreparably damaged their business in the country and had no choice.

>> No.44815277

>>44808982
phase connect is worth watching just for panko.
that raging yet lovable yet smug panda brings me back to 2020
she would fit perfectly in hololive but like her being in a smaller agency, makes her streams even comfier

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>>44815277
Back when Panko posted this I thought "Based", but then she never actually played Dark Souls

>> No.44815657

>>44815273
Yes, they "irreparably damaged" their business in the country because they are siding with Coco.

Yes, they always have a choice to just bend down further and punish Coco more or even cut her off, but they did not.

I mean, you're just describing all the symptoms but not addressing the actual cause.

>> No.44815745

>Are there any good corpos?
No, indies are superior to corpos on both Japanese and English side. Sure, you won't get big expensive events/music videos/animations, but at least you get character.

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>>44808982
good morning
take the indie pill my good dawg

>> No.44815813

>>44808982
As someone said, Hololive is strict but lenient. They are willing to allow girls to do other contents.... provided they gave the proposal and get it approved. Polka and Pekora did a skydiving for example.

And lmao, are you frozen from back in 2020 anon? Its almost 2 years anniversary for Kson.

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>>44815056
They also seem to enjoy what they're doing when you see them jump from a stream to a member stream and Twitter spaces, some of her member streams go on for 8 hours like it's nothing which is refreshing to see

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>>44815813
I liked Coco.
>you should check out Ks--
No, thank you.

>> No.44815948

>>44815891
He said thank you even tho he disagrees. If that's not gigachad behavior idk what is.

>> No.44816319

>>44815657
You seem completely unaware of the fact that the most vocal groups were also demanding that Haato be fired, the CEO resign, and a massive structural change to be made in the company management to be more friendly to China. And even if they did those things there was no guarantee the translators would come back. Most of them realized that the work they were doing was valuable and thought they should be payed around the same time. The Taiwan thing was an explosion of tension that had been building for at least a year, the translators were starting to feel neglected, and that was the last straw that lead them to quit and seethe.

So the choice was literally destroy their company in their home market and their new up and coming market (EN) to attempt to save a small market, or drop the smaller market. They did the only logical move.

>> No.44816685

>>44811068
This is true and why simps are a thing. Men love when women talk about how many dicks they've sucked and how much sex they have because it fulfills their fantasy of possibly having a chance with her. A lot of men also love gangbangs.

>> No.44816805

>>44816319
this retard must be trolling

>> No.44817077

>>44816805
If you can barely understand English to the point where you can't read a paragraph it would be courteous to mention that upfront so nobody wastes their time trying to explain complicated subjects to you.

>> No.44817782

>>44814850
>2/4 have "brotherfriends" that they let slip on stream
Nice company you have there phasecuck, and you call Nijisanji unprofessional

>> No.44817787

>>44817077
you don't explain anything just spouting shit that doesn't disapprove anything, Cover didn't lose chink market solely because of Coco that's true but the cause is Taiwan yab that make them chinks demand shit and boycotting them because they refused to bend their knees, whether translators and shit will come back is just an assumption and irrelevant to the fact that they don't bend to chink

>> No.44817884

>>44809418
This image will never not be true and it makes shitposters seethe every time they're reminded of it

>> No.44818360

>>44817787
holokeks think cover side with coco. this wrong
sides were not china and coco
sides were ruining business for chinakeks with no money or money
cover is business, it side with money

>> No.44819008

>>44818360
my bad, should've noticed earlier that you're falseflagger schizo

>> No.44819255

>>44819008
I hope you learn to read one day and then come back to this thread and are embarrassed.

>> No.44820352

>>44813742
Man I'm actually getting tired of this collab purity shit. Just watch a motherfucker or don't. No need to cry every single time you get hurt like a bitch.

>> No.44820355

>>44812105
>incel culture
oh look, it's time to pretend incel isn't used as a synonym for virgin, but instead is a descriptor for insane schizos posting on ebil forums online

>> No.44820523

>>44809418
>I don't like women when they act like themselves

That means you're gay my friend

>> No.44820834

>>44820355
Normalshitters really do use it to refer to "insane schizos posting on ebil forums online" though, nto as a synonym for virgin

>> No.44820920

>>44813070
she's collabing with someone who has no problem flirting on stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XmQy-Wtf8o

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>>44810070
Ironically the tiger is the only one I'd take home. She's probably the least crazy.

>> No.44821177

>>44813873
>doesn't watch streams
>doesn't even watch clips
>only posts on /vt/ and Twitter all day
Yep, it's a Vshojo fan.

>> No.44821224

>>44820834
This, it basically refers to a misogynist with extra connotation of loser because he can't score with women he actually wants so something must be wrong with them.

>> No.44821323

>>44808982
How would you have protected Coco? Sue China or something? Lmao

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>>44809098
Here is one of many other reasons. >>44809509
Shitshojo and everything related to them is disgusting.

>> No.44821966

>>44820920
Oh, its this faggot. Onto the blacklist she goes then

>> No.44822367

>>44808982
>>Only relevant because of Pippa
If you have no other thing to point out, they win by default. You even pointed out quality of the content and overall environment in the company, but then shifted over to numberfagging Pippa like it matters in any way. Also, she's not the only one doing good. Two years without any graduations speaks volumes about the company.

>> No.44822747

>>44808982
Nothing is better than HoloJp but you do need to know Japanese.

>> No.44823096

>>44809509
dick dick cock pussy cum orgasm gangbanged in a dark alley coom went to hotel with this guy fuck fucking sex vagina cock cum did you laugh yet

>> No.44823169

>>44809098
>pink cat facestreaming and flirting with her boyfriend on stream
>vei flirting with her boyfriend on stream
>froot bending the knee to the trannies constantly

>> No.44824548

>>44823096
Woah cool Mori stream

>> No.44826253

>>44809509
True

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>>44809224
Based desu just rather based. Although I like Airi and apparently Hime is not so bad.

>> No.44828065

>>44809098
Women having autonomy is bad bro
>inb4 this but unironically

>> No.44828251

>>44812585
you wish vshojo cuckold you wish lmao
you dont even watch clips you just watch thumbnails lmao

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>>44821718
is that sayacchi

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