Numbers thread

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End of month edition

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May Median views

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>>4454992
>>4455001
translate, weeb.
also,
>Bahroo included
what kind of retard made this?

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>>4455352
Nowadays Bahroo is as much a vtuber as Nyanners is

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>>4455368
Nyanners might be shit and a hypocrite, but at least she does the very minimum to be considered a vtuber, to be fair.

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May superchats

>JP
Rushia - $169,140
Coco - $115,485
Lamy - $95,610
Pekora - $85,029
Marine - $79,774
Kanata - $79,375
Matsuri - $68,785
Watame - $65,431
Subaru - $48,747
Nene - $48,489
Ayame - $46,462
Miko - $41,638
Aki - $41,286
Aqua - $38,809
Flare - $38,323
Towa - $38,313
Korone - $36,645
Mio - $31,611
Fubuki - $31,248
Okayu - $28,338
Botan - $28,033
Sora - $26,932
Suisei - $25,661
Noel - $24,620
Shion - $22,878
Mel - $22,814
Luna - $20,612
Roboco - $19,811
Haato - $17,305
Polka - $15,817
AZKi - $5,949
Choco - $1,752

>EN
Kiara - $106,112
Ina'nis - $92,989
Gura - $69,728
Calliope - $48,307
Amelia - $43,490

>ID
Ollie - $11,511
Reine - $9,457
Anya - $4,550
Risu - $1,789
Moona - $1,588
Iofi - $1,512

>STARS
Roberu - $9,654
Oga - $6,743
Arian - $5,955
Rikka - $4,121
Tenma - $3,836
Izuru - $3,097
Shien - $2,727
Miyabi - $1,902
Astel - $1,794

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>>4455352
Bahroo is the top vtuber on twitch. I can't wait for his Dying Light collab with Gura.

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>>4455547
>ID1 earns less than HoloHomos
Jesas

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>>4455445
Bahroo has a vtuber avatar, that's literally all that is needed.

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>>4456110
so does he, 3 of them

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>>4456148
He doesn't use it all the time though

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Why do you idiots consider some literal faggot like Bahroo a vtuber but not Nux Taku? He actually has his own persona, and started from 0 with it, never shows his face, has a working model, knows the minimum about jp culture, etc etc

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>>4456444
How many numbers did he get?

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>>4456454
around 2k live, and a bit more on the rarer youtube streams
https://twitchtracker.com/nuxtaku

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>>4456526
Well that's nice and all but this is the numbers thread, unless he gets enough to get in the top 25 on he basically doesn't exists.

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>>4455547
>Anya earns more than ID1 combined
How the fuck did that happen? Is this the power of saviourfags?

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chat languages

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>>4456444
Nux is a faggot

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>>4456444
shameless cringelord

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I kneel Pekora

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>>4456912
She opened her membership this month, there was a massive celebration

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>>4457048
>and it's still rising

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>>4456912
ID2 in general have more paypigs than ID1 because of EN buff, it helped that they mainly speak in EN/JP. This is also why people feel the management is retarded for making ID1 try the more indogs stream

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>>4456444
Faggot

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>>4457048
I'm trying to think of something that would have the same impact on American viewers as FFX. It's the perfect combo of nostalgia and memes. Gura and Mass Effect? Bioshock? Not sure there's an equivalent

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>>4456444
nux taku is fucking cringe

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>>4457128
Gura & GTA

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>>4457128
Gura and FF7

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>>4457451
I'd honestly wouldn't trust her with an RPG...

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>>4456947
that's a lot of red on the nonjp message % change on the right

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>>4456947
Whenever some retard tries to claim Pekora is only doing big because of huge EOP boost, I'll refer them to this lol

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>>4457674
You should not even bother taking the bait in the first place retardchama

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>>4456947
Has anyone compared ID vs. English messages in Reine's chat?

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>>4455001
a lot of VTubers dropped views in April and in May they gained viewers again. Why? lockdown in Japan? I alway thought that is kinda of a meme because there is no way to correlate lockdown to increased viewership. 2020 had a lot of factors to explain the explosive growth of Hololive

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>>4458251
Lockdown in Japan and SEA, mainly

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>>4457128
I feel Kingdom Heart stream would have big numbers
Of course, it's almost impossible to stream

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The biggest numberfag of Hololive

https://youtu.be/ndg49Sj5_vA

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>>4458446
And the queen of chuubas

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>>4458540
rip peko

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>>4458620
>9 minutes ago
you are trying really hard now

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How's /ourgirl/ doing?

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>>4458540
Pegora +FFX combo is too strong.
The stream name is clickbaiting af for nostagiafags though.

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>>4458620
It should be ban-able offence to be in numberfag thread but not knowing that it takes time for YT to process numbers

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>>4458719
based Peko

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>>4458749
i now i always find it a tad funny due to the stark difference and the fact that youtube takes its time with shit like this

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>>4457048
peaked at 70k when the bunni cries i think

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>>4458620
implication?

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>>4458540
万歳!!!

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GIKEN ACCESS numbers for May

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>>4457674
Eops can spam grass too, you know

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>>4458251
Golden Week + lockdowns

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>>4459170
never get where these streaming evaluation sites pull there numbers from, since even excluding EN marine and a bunch of other JPs have more total views in the past 30 days than miko

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>>4459170
never get where these streaming evaluation sites pull their numbers from, since even excluding EN marine and a bunch of other JPs have more total views in the past 30 days than miko

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>>4458703
Sorry this is a numberfag thread, only top 25 need apply.

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>>4459394
They only include streams apparently, but their calculation of watched hours is complete shit. They either use a simple % of max viewers for avg viewers; or they take the avg live viewers from Playboard, which only counts the last 15 videos (so 2 weeks for the very active ones)

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>>4459433
By their metric 1 view in a 5 hour stream is worth five times more than 1 view in a 1 hour stream, which is why those numbers are so retarded. That's why Watame is ranked so high for example, since she always does long super chat readings which inflates the "minutes watched."

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>>4457048
While Nijis are busy dragging each other down, Peko is bringing Hololive to the next level. Every day from now on, top 25 will be filled with only Hololive before we know it.

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>>4459531
wait they just multiply views x stream duration? I never expected them to be this dumb

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>>4459433
I spot a salty Marinefag

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>>4458540
>>4458620
Damn, is ffx really that good?

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>>4459646
don't watch much of her i was just using her since isn't she the next biggest after pekora

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>>4459655
Mostly nostalgia
It was good to me.

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>>4459655
It's the most popular FF in Japan.
>>35013157
Correct.
https://www.siliconera.com/japans-favorite-final-fantasy-game-according-to-nhks-grand-poll-is-final-fantasy-x/
>1. Final Fantasy X (2001)
>2. Final Fantasy VII (1997)
>3. Final Fantasy VI (1994)
>4. Final Fantasy IX (2000)
>5. Final Fantasy XIV (2010~)

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>>4455873
>>4456912
the >>4455547 says its SC so i wonder if it has the streamlab donations in it as well since IDs tend to have those enabled as well

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Will we be counting ame charity stream's scs for her own total my numberfriend anons?

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>>4459433
simple, its minutes watched, not views. Longer stream = more minutes watched.

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>>4459894
Of course. She's the cause of the donation. Doesn't matter where the money will go to.

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>>4459894
she´s gonna do it? I thought it was cancelled

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>>4459976
So they just multiply the views gotten by stream length? That's retarded. Who the fuck does that?

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>>4459689
Again it depends what Metrics you use. Giken, for example, tracks minutes watched so your rank is basically determined by your average viewers and your total time streaming. It basically tracks which streamers had the most eyes on them for the longest amount of time. Miko always ranks really high on this list because she is in the top tier of Hololive as far as average live viewers go and she always streams usually 90-120 hours a month (almost every day). She has a lot of eyes on her.

Both ways have their ups and downs but the way Giken does it is to filter out people like Ayame who stream once or twice a month, get 20k viewers, and then show up at the top of viewership ranks because of it. I like this method.

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>>4459433
How the hell Miko is lower than Aqua who hadnt streamed for a month. And Subaru is lower than Matsuri. Last month Subaru grow so fast that she only lower than Marine and Pekora. That number is really unbelievable.

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>>4460199
>>4459575
Not views, average concurrent viewers.

No one cares about viewcount outside of number fagging songs and en cope

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>>4460235
>Giken tracks minutes watched
No they don't, that data is only available to the owner of the channel. They have to calculate (estimate) it somehow, and it seems they just do views x time, which is beyond retarded.

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>>4460265
Songs

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>>4460410
>Beyond retarded
It's no more retarded than any other method. In fact, I think it's a lot less retarded than simply using CCU since it filters out shitters like Ayame that never stream.

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>>4460385
>average concurrent viewers
they dont have that either from youtube. As I said, They either use a simple % of max live viewers for avg live viewers; or they take the avg live viewers from Playboard, which only counts the last 15 videos (so 2 weeks for the very active ones)
Not to mention "spamviewers" are filtered from youtube's live viewers, but not from twitch's.

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>>4460504
Do you hate her because you'll never get to sex her?

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>>4454992
Holy crap, I knew Rushia was one of the main recipients of simp bux but that she got like 50% more than coco this month is new to me.

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>>4459655
No. RPG endings tend to do well and they really do very well when your name is Pekora. She had a similar boost for the ending of death fucking stranding.

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>>4460768
She had her one million celebration this month so that's why.

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>>4456444
Doesn't heve have like 50 channels like Kizuna Ai? You can propose to have him registered in VNUMA.

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>>4460957
>You can propose to have him registered in VNUMA.
huh how

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>>4460235
>Both ways have their ups and downs but the way Giken does it is to filter out people like Ayame who stream once or twice a month, get 20k viewers, and then show up at the top of viewership ranks because of it. I like this method.
You like being retarded, that's what you like. You can filter out people like Ayame simply by setting a minimum number of streams over a given span of time to qualify for certain rankings. This type of ranking is absolutely worthless unless they have direct access to the YT account's analytics. I highly doubt that Cover would allow Pekora of all people to show her metrics to anyone other than paying customers for sponsorships.

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another number

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>>4460768
Coco took like 10 days off in may

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>>4455547
>Astel earned more than Choco despite having SC turned off for the majority of the month

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>>4460508
>they dont have that either from youtube
The information is publicly available

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>>4461320
Are you just mad and trying to discredit the list because the list doesn't confirm your biases? That is what it sounds like to me.

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>>4461029
Hmm. Am I confusing websites here? I guess you can always drop a DM to the site owner on Twitter, apparently.

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>>4462212
There's no biases to confirm on a ranking that makes no sense in the first place. If the methodology is obscure or flawed then it's worth is absolute zero.

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>>4462212
If you have spent any time on /hlg/ over in /jp/ you know that Marinefags always get super salty when this list comes out because Miko always places higher than her. They are just salty Marinefags.

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>>4456444
Cux Taku is a massive cringefes faggot , look at his videos , theyre all clickbait full of misleading shit and unfunny humour

his Holo ones are just the worst out of em , shit makes you want to poke your own eyes out .

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>>4462734
sounds like most of the vshojos, he'd fit right in

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>>4461733
>below Shibuya Hal
>BELOW Shibuya Hal
>A WHOLE FUCKING COMPANY, IS BELOW AN INDIE
oh nononono it's not looking good for you nijibros

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>>4462475
Can't blame them though. The top of HoloJP used to be PekoMarine, now it's Peko>>>>>>>>>everyone else and Marine isn't even #2 anymore.

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>>4460410
>>Giken tracks minutes watched
>No they don't, that data is only available to the owner of the channel
You're probably thinking of a different metric here.
They're tracking minutes/hours watched LIVE which an estimation is technically accessible in both YT and TTV by polling and averaging their live viewers over time. While you wont get the best metric
that YT use for their algorithms (total minutes/hours watched) the tracked figure is a relatively good representation of it, especially on streamers where they do hours of content and VOD views are minimal.
Of course this method of tracking favors TTV streamers considering how YT removes suspected bot viewers from their count. which is probably why they constantly have twitch streamers on top of their charts. Just remove/reduce the twitch numbers mentally when reading their numbers.

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>>4463347
Doesn't this method just favor people who do long streams? Say that during a given day chuuba A averages 18k viewers during a 1 hour stream while chuuba B averages 3k during a 12 hour endurance stream. Then that metric says B performed twice as well as A, which is obviously bullshit.

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Today's numbers

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>>4464963
To add a concrete example, By this metric, Choco would be considered a high tier holo during the days she spent all of her waking hours streaming Ark.

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>>4465009
Aki...

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>>4465009
Sasuga manjisanji

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>>4465009
Is that a Kanatan INCLINING

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>>4465009
i thought kaneki wasn't supposed to break 20k when playing faglorant? has this board lied to me?

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Run faster Kizuna the dog is coming for you

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>>4463111
... only two of hololive are above him as well, retard. So what that means for hololive when the most popular vtuber company has 98% of their talents below a indie?

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>>4455751
Lol imagine being this retarded. Only one of them would benefit from a collab (hint: it’s not Gura)

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>>4464963
yes, because retaining 3k attention over 12 hours is more favorable to the platform, advertisers and, in effect, to the streamers in question due to how algorithms and monetisation are designed. And in terms of a streamer's popularity, being live for lengthy period of time contributes to marketing their online presence.
In the end, this sort of metrics is probably the most reliable we can use to track 'influence' without resorting to arbitrary limits such as random stream amount or hours streamed thresholds.

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>>4465615
So you're saying Choco really was one of the leading streamers in holo during the Ark era.

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>>4465014
>To add a concrete example, By this metric, Choco would be considered a high tier holo during the days she spent all of her waking hours streaming Ark.
and yet she never showed up in these charts because:
1. she doesnt average that much to begin with. especially not agains the likes of top tier holos that can get 10k+ average over 3+ hours
2. even if she does 12+ hour streams in one day, doesnt mean that she can continue the same hours everyday. streaming less hours has the benefit of being relatively more sustainable to the holo that does them.

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I wonder if Gura starts to produce short clips or
highlight videos, how many views will she gain?
But she seems to restrict herself to make live stream only.

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>>4455352
Bahroo uses this vtuber avatar now.

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Gura is still a freshman streamer compares to JP branch.

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>>4465765
>So you're saying Choco really was one of the leading streamers in holo during the Ark era.
see >>4465781
you're working on inaccurate data of you think 'leading' streamers cant beat an ARK addict with <10k average CCU.

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>>4456444
Bahroo is actually entertaining.

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>>4465860
I don't watch him, but he already got 10k as a regular stream. Does he ever switch the girl?

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>Pekora 70k FFX, old boomer game
>Pekora 31k RE8, meme streamer buff game
How the fuck does this work? Why did FFX gave her so many views in comparison?

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>Watame 632 hours
>Pekora 579 hours
>Coco 560 hours
>Flare 550 hours
>Kiara 520 hours
>Miko 494 hours + 68 twitch hours

These are your streaming addicts.

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>>4454992
Well, now I know Takodachis are very wealthy.

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>>4465781
>doesnt mean that she can continue the same hours everyday
She did though. And even if she didn't show up in the top 20, she would still have been above a fair deal of much more popular holos that didn't stream as much. That never helped her grow, she remained bottom of the barrel all throughout. When people (and that includes potential sponsors) look at numbers they're primarily concerned with popularity, and for that average viewers, top viewership, archive views, total subscribers and subscriber growth are still much more telling metrics.

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>>4465975
Japan and Asia are going back into lockdown because of rise in Covid cases. It's no wonder that video streaming is rising again.

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>>4465975
Everyone and their mother were streaming that same game anon.

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>>4456444
Ew, Nux Taku.

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>>4465985
Pekora is the only one on that list that doesn't spend half of her streaming time doing supacha readings.

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>>4466064
And?

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>>4465615
This is the perfect way to explain it and exactly why I like the Giken chart. Hours streaming matter and they deserve to have their hard work recognized.

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>>4465130
What will she do when she goes full deaf? Will Coco take care of her when it happens?

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>>4466148
And nothing, I'm just stating a fact.

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>>4466213
Her disease only affects one of her ears, she's not going full deaf.

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>>4466223
Your fact is wrong though. I watch Miko all the time and "half" of her streaming time is not superchats. She sets some time aside at the end of her streams to read them and it's for the fans anyway and it actually hurts their CCU. Pekora is too much of a numberfag to do something like that for her fans that might hurt her numbers.

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>>4466254
But what if she does?!

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>>4455352
>Bahroo on the list
Can't wait to see sodapoppin on this list when he gets his vtuber avatar in a week

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>>4465985
Miko #2 Holo!!!!! Go Go Miko!!!

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>>4466305
I guess that would suck.

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>>4465860
>didnt start from zero under a new persona
thus not a vtuber, he's just riding the trend

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>>4466338
Miko needs to take it easier...

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>>4461940
Pekora used to be grouped with Kuzuha and Marine, but this... this is just a league ahead.

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>>4465187
NOOO PLEASE NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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>>4465995
>>doesnt mean that she can continue the same hours everyday
>She did though. And even if she didn't show up in the top 20, she would still have been above a fair deal of much more popular holos that didn't stream as much.
Well, holos that doesnt stream much or stream for hours usually have inflated average CCUs to begin with. Unless you can actually show Choco did better at these metrics than these 'more popular' holos, i dont think i can buy your point. And Choco used to be top holo of her gen, i think you're discrediting her a bit. her poor growth number is definitely an issuue due to her channel's issues with YT in the past.

>subscribers and subscriber growth are still much more telling metrics.
Well I agree, but theres no concrete way to combine these metrics into one 'influence' figure. However, I still believe the 'total time watched' is arguably the most representative of that figure that we can non-abritrarily track to determine 'current' popularity or influence.

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>>4465821
I think she's focusing more on off-stream idol activities, training on her vocal, instrument and dancing.

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>>4455547
poor choco

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>>4467158
Did she say this? If that is true that would be amazing.

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>>4456444
this dude has got to be the cringiest anituber ever
Trash taste look like comedic fucking gods compared to nux taku, who is quite literally painful to listen to

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>>4467203
She implicitly said it multiple times during membership streams and super chat reading. I watched the 1st Gen concert, and those girls are amazingly talented. I still prefer Gura's voice by a mile, but in terms of technicality, she has a long way to go.

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>>4465373
Only one hololive actually. The other is the main channel.
It means that Pekor carries her company and saves it the humiliation of being mogged by an indie. Tokyo ghoul needs to step it up a bit to save Niji.

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>>4467500
It'll need more than Tokyo Ghoul to save them when Robokosan mogs all but 3 of the most popular niji talents in views. Holy shit.

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>>4457227
I 100% agree with you. I can only imagine how viral the gameplay and clips would become

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>>4463111
Is it fair to count Hal as a real indie, though? Technically he is one at the moment, but he was a corporate VTuber until recently.

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>>4466593
not all the holos with few hours streams have such good numbers. You have ones like Azki, Mel or Sora in there. And Pekora, Coco, Botan with a lot.
I dont have time so Ill just drop the numbers below, you analyze it. I had a cap of 43 videos for 40 days, so about 10 videos from pekora werent counted there, I think watame missed a few as well; but you can have the general gist of it.
HoloJP total minutes
Azki 750
Haachama 1418
Aqua 1571
Shion 1785
Choco 1823
Ayame 1837
Suisei 2254
Mel Y 2853
Sora 3531
Mio 4013
Marine 4263
Luna 4411
AkiRose 4519
Nene 4628
Korone 4864
Polka 4973
Fubuki 5190
Subaru 5237
Towa 5253
Noel 5381
Kanata 5640
Rushia 6151
Matsuri 6582
Roboco 6792
Botan 7008
Okayu 7375
Miko 7908
Coco 7940
Pekora 8213
Lamy 8703
Watame 9497
Flare 10466

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>>4468723
See >>4465985

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>>4468723
Not sure what are you trying to say or expecting me to do here.
AZKI, Mel, and Sora doesnt have good numbers regardless of anything. And it shows on their general popularity as a streamer relative to their co-workers.

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Gains for the past month.

Calli seems to be accelerating. What is driving that growth?

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>>4469175
Calli is going to be the 2nd to reach 2 million. Korone going to get mogged out of her milestone again, lol.

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From >>4252870

Apparent someone on reddit released their data on how viewership shared between channels. What do you guys think? Is the western market still have this much potential (especially spanish language speaking community (orange group bottom))? Or is there any other stuff that still potentially contribute growth to the vtuber community as a whole?

https://i.postimg.cc/0k48VNss/Twitch-Communities-May-PNG5275x5965.png
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MkeJbGZCzGA2fEXUgmBvjsTC4iHlH5VbNSocMbdL6rQ/edit#gid=0
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/nlqz9v/twitch_atlas_vol_4/gzk5d85/

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>>4469175
She released a music cover this week anon. That's her bread and butter.

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>>4469337
Well she held a steady 70-80k per month around Pekora rates and then things are picking up. I guess, more people are finding about her music.

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>>4469235
An earlier map I saw of this had VShojo disconnected from the rest of the purple blob. Whoever made this map had to wait to properly classify them.

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>>4455001
>Veibae and nyanners has more numbers than Kiara
>Rejects her collab
>Mori has more numbers than mousey
>Collab is not rejected
Are vshojo girls the ultimate numberfags?

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>>4469146
>Well, holos that doesnt stream much or stream for hours usually have inflated average CCUs to begin with
it is about that part. So if Azki, sora and mel do bad CCU with few streaming hours, you cant say that Ayame does well just because of few streaming hours.

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>>4465985
For people who have a problem reading it.

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>>4469643
I think the category is algorithmically detected so there's probably some errors. Otherwise there's a github https://github.com/KiranGershenfeld/VisualizingTwitchCommunities if you're interested to improve this.

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>>4469678
Of note is that Cover doesn't really seem to have a hard ban on VShojo itself, but rather specific people within. If Cover was the onethat ended up cancelling the Collab, then it stands to reason that Ironmouse and Mori are allowed through. On the other hand, I can see how you would perceive the slight given that the collab cancel was claimed by Veibae (with the caveat that Nyanners herself discredited Vei's own claim in her member's discord).

That said, I don't think they're so much numberfags as they are clout chasers. That sounds similar, but it's different.

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>>4469235
>potastic with the vshojo girls
cute

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>>4469697
See >>4469146
>AZKI, Mel, and Sora doesnt have good numbers regardless of anything. And it shows on their general popularity as a streamer relative to their co-workers.

All 4 of them including Ayame still do benefits from higher CCU than they would have gotten had they streamed longer or more often however.

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>>4469934
That's just your theory. Kanata and Subaru have upped their stream frequency and yet are finding more success now.

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>>4470418
>Kanata
What caused the Kanata incline anyway? She was pretty low tier ~6 months ago number-wise wasn't she?

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>>4470477
I guess that she just stream more. Therefore more streams to watch and so more views.

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>>4455001
Wait, even with her outfit stream Gura didn't ended first?

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>>4470477
Can't tell for sure, but my guess would be more exposure due to her teetee with Coco and later one her collabs with AkuKen and UsaKen. Either way, now she can get good numbers even on solo

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>>4470583
>Median views
that means it doesn't include the highest or lowest extremes

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>>4470707
I see, thanks.

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>>4469175
Her music vids get millions of views; probably something to do with that especially considering her viewership is not really that proportional to the subs. Possibly many/most of the random music subbers probably only give a shit when she releases something.

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>>4470418
>That's just your theory. Kanata and Subaru have upped their stream frequency and yet are finding more success now.
if they have more content to stream and entertain their viewers then ofc they are going to incline. Both in popularity, numbers, and the total time watched metrics.

The assumption that I made applies to holos that are extending their stream length or frequency with little to no interesting content such as SC reading. If for example Mel streams less by not reading SC, she's probably ends up with higher CCU average. or if lets say Choco now only streams ASMR every other week. her CCU would probably be closer to 10k based on how her ASMR streams normally perform.

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>>4471164
Im not sure you know this, but Ayame does read SCs at the end of her streams. She just doesnt bother to to change the screen, like Pekora or Marine do, so you'd think she's still playing the game.. but it is frozen.
For example, her last one she spent the last 1hr 10 mins doing it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRCzC1TJUo8

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>>4469821
Pekora is so far ahead of everybody it's insane. The only way she would even have a chance of losing #1 is if Marine or Gura just randomly decided to triple their streaming hours. With that said as a 35p I'm super super happy to see Miko at #2. Great to see her hard work paying off.

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>>4471480
>Marine or Gura just randomly decided to triple their streaming hours
Not happening with Marine at least, she too busy doing radio shows and just general hololive stuff behind the scenes.

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>>4455751
is he? When Miko did a few casual minecraft streams on twitch while Youtube was shitting itself she absolutely mogged his numbers. Guess being biggest Vtuber on twitch doesn't mean much.

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>>4471480
Won't happen, anon. The only way to beat Pekora is by having Pekora taking a break, or maybe EN2?

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>>4471844
Yeah, Miko got like 18k when she actually streamed gameplay on twitch.

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>>4471480
Same fellow 35p. A far cry from the days where she would have quit without the support of Mio, Subaru, and some of the oldest 35P. I love seeing how much confidence she has, and the hands only going to power her up!

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pre spam view vs post spam view

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>>4472698
This doesn't tell much, retardchama.

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>>4455547
>Nene - $48,489

She's come so far......

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>>4472743
cope chumbud. Theres no "bug view"

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>>4459170
>final fantasy xiv

Based

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>>4465985
Sasuga fucking eternally online Pekora, out there earing those superchats

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>>4467197
Choco is proof that a sexy character model, YABE and big tits doesn't lead to popularity

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>>4469175
Calli's music is not at all my kind of thing but I respect that she's really grinding to get her content out to her viewers. Girl is putting in work and she's reaping (haha) the rewards of her efforts.

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>>4459766
Probably it's this. That is damn peculiar Moona with a good viewerbase and like 700k subs, made like $70 more than ... Iofi, and that neither of them made more than Choco or any Holostars. Their donations are just invisible to what's tracking this besides SCs, and it seems most of their audience more used to Streamlabs only than ID2's (which makes sense since there are a ton more EOPs for ID2).

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>>4465985
>kiara's at >500 hours already

Damn. Literally half of that is fucking SC reading though.

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Holy shit ame, never play automata again, no one wants to see it.

Never seen her viewers this low.

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>>4466335
I'm looking forward to Aris vtuber avatar once he learns about vtubers aswell

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>>4455547
Choco..

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>>4473379
Empty content, explaining her shit views

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Is this Pekora's time?

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>>4458011
I feel like that would be kinda difficult since they use the same script and chat messages are going to be filled with netslang that machine reading won't be able to parse well

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>>4456947
Okayu POWER
https://files.catbox.moe/yjn74n.mp4

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Why do most of Kuzuha's streams have a low view to like ratio? Are most of his audience just apex kids who don't even bother to hit the like button? And why are apexfags in japan toxic as fuck?

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>>4459573
How TF is she going to bring the rest up when she's a solo streamer just like Aqua

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>>4467500
Pekora actually cares about her numbers while Tokyo Ghoul actively plays Valo which is a known debuff game just because he's bored of APEX

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>>4474967
She made capcom, square enix and many more kneel

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>>4474551
I rarely like streams because I jump between them and it's too bothersome

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>>4467657
I hope you don't think about Roboco considering how the views she had in this month are abnormal for her. She doesn't get those 30k, her average is 1-2k. I know because I watch her.

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>>4474551
Japanese dont use the like button as much as foreigners in general.

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Nijisanji May median views

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>>4470625
I think the Sans battle endurance thing got her a ton of exposure

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>>4475089
>just because he's bored of APEX
And because he genuinely got hooked on the game

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>>4475934
>trade one bad game for another

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Gura needs to go back to the variety of streams she had before (more singing, bathtub pizza, etc), because doing endless gaming tanks her views, even more so if it’s a game people don’t care about. Or her lazy ass can upload some stuff, but she said that’s hard to do because Cover has to approve every detail before it can be uploaded. I think better management would be nice too, but I guess they’re only there to tell her what she can’t do. Who knows, it’s a mess.

My guess is Gura completely goes back to lower views by the lack of variety and uploads, whether the fault of management or not.

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>>4476119
She's actually loving DMC, she won't stop until she's finished it

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>>4476119
>endless gaming tanks her views
you're threatening her with a good time there, she hates being this popular

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>>4475934
based Kaneki playing games he enjoys even if watching makes the audience want to gut themselves

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>>4473053
>chumbud
I'm not a chumbud. I'm a numberfag. Those numbers mean very little without the additional viewer data to accompany them. Now go jack yourself off to your imagination, schizo.

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>>4476925
Like any fanbase, they’re happy to watch as long as he’s having fun and giving entertainment, for the most part

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>>4458749
he's not a number fag, he's a drama fag using numbers.

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>>4459655
i like it, it's an overall okay rpg, it's ending is really good though.

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>>4477072
>>4477235
>numberfriends
do not lower yourselves anonbros, be proud of your data

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>>4469175
>What is driving that growth?
music, also meme review.
the coco collab probably helped channal some jap fans to her channel.

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>>4476925
He also doesn't only play one game even if the title of the stream is "valorant".
Hell I'm pretty sure that he played SFV longer than Valorant last stream.

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>>4477649
he streamed for like 10 hours and played 3 games

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>>4475705
What exactly is this division?
10k
9-5k
4-3k
2k
1k
less than 1k

Shouldn't the ones between 5k and less than 10k be in the same place while the ones between less than 5k and 1k be the other?

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>>4473210
Not exactly. Choco just doesn't stream a lot for some reason. She was inclining a few months before when she started playing MC with Polka and Flare. But her stream time became irregular again. Her ASMR still draws in crowds when she does them. Like once a month. Her SCs is bad but if she kept up with her viewer incline then SCs would probably follow as well. Flare is pretty much was like this. She caught the incline and sailed through

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>>4477754
>>4477649
ah, so that explains it

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>>4475705
>3/4 10k+ are males
>7/15 (?) 5k+ are males
Hmm... how many of those below the second row are males? It seems like there's overwhelmingly more males as a percentage of the roster above 5k CCU than there are males as a percentage of the under 5k CCU group.

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>>4477917
Manjisanji

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>>4477649
>>4477835
he sometimes gets comments that diss him for writing a certain game title and then switching the game without editing the title. he read one of them once and unsurprisingly didn't give a shit about that person's feelings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m7pfSyBT_o&t=6922s timestamp is 1:55:22

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>>4470477
She did a lot of streams that drew a lot of attention. Undertale G route, her 3D birthday, her collabs, her MC streams with unexpected collabs(this is where some girls started to just casually talk normally. She started it with Polka), her gacha streams and she also does a lot of short vids that did give her numbers. She's actually good at trying to read what might be turn successful. Her miltopia stream is drawing people because she creating other holopro.

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>>4477917
>>4477965
and the discussion already ended. There's no place to discuss nijisanji on this.

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>>4477801
You're reading it wrong, anon. It's a bracket system, like taxes:
>10,000+
>5000~9999
>3000~4999
>2000~2999
>1000~1999
>1~999
>0
They're arbitrarily grouping certain ranges to fit as many NijiJPs in a relatively smaller space to keep the Niji "rainbow" motiff and prevent excessive overflow horizontally.

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>I was just shitting on you because I was scared other people might shit on you
the absolute state of this turbonigger

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>>4473690
Amelia and Gura have a very western normie audience. If they want to do well, they have to play games that are doing well in twitch right now or are very new.

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>>4478480
Actually Gura does well just adding more variety to her streams, basically playing less games. Why? Dunno, probably because people don’t watch her for her gaming skill anyway. Not sure about Ame though.

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>>4477965
I'm not the forced "manjisanji" meme guy. He can fuck off for all I care.

>>4478317
I just got curious. Since the shit posting over last couple of weeks have constantly brought up that Niji males are dominating over the women, I wanted to verify the veracity of this. Ther other thing that I'd like to know is how often do these Nijis stream and for how long, since those are more useful numbers to determined the reasons why certain demographics view some more than others. Like how Nijis are more likely to be Apexfags than Holos and such.

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>>4478373
Why are you posting this here?

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>>4478718
Gura's incline in numbers recently was because she was playing a new horror game with decent graphics. Rhythm games, MC and Subnautica. Her playing an jp rpg released like 2005 is not going to help her.

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>>4459170
>riotgamesjp
didn't think reague ever took off over there

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>>4477835
Well, also because he streamed late into the early morning, but yeah

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>>4478373
I know you posted in the wrong thread but I’m curious of what this is about

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>>4479039
>Gura's incline in numbers recently was because she was playing a new horror game
Incorrect. Started on April 30ty. It began at Friday Night Funkin and Karaoke. Then variety combined with Outfit reveal helped her.

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>>4478743
From what I look on content, between the 103 vtubers, about 10 stream apex regularly. Kuzuha, Kanae, Chihiro, Elu and a few others.

As for how many they stream per month, you can see on ( )

>>4478338
I still think my way makes more sense. I saw it similar to the one done by hololive and it makes more sense.

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>>4479283
What are on about. Her Smol update game has like 1.1m views. It was posted April 23. Her DMC5 has 1M views posted April 16. A newer slicker version of guess what, the game she's playing right now. She only did one variety stream which ks her bathtub zatsudan. Stop embarrassing yourself. Every time she plays a new released game, there is a spike.

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This is when Gura’s viewer growth increased. And maybe a little bit before it with bathtub pizza stream and Smol Ame. Because before all that, it was mostly all standard gaming (not meme games) with decreased viewers.

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>>4479283
She won't get more than 15k on DMC3.
DBD and Cali Collab should get at least 20k viewers.
This is a pretty standard week for Gura's number.

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>>4479599
>What are on about. Her Smol update game has like 1.1m views
Actually I did post that, but it was after your post. I was purposefully looking for it. If you look at the list it’s been variety since then. Here is my other post: >>4479624

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>>4479599
If it's not a new beautiful looking game, MC, game with a lot of songs or a horror game... the little kids with short attention spans won't watch it. Even the new games she introduces will lose traction after the 3rd stream. That is just the nature of her audience.

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For clarification. To me variety = singing, collabs, chatting, meme games, or weird games, etc.

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>>4479702
>She won't get more than 15k on DMC3

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>>4479904
Yeah, this is the variety that Gura needs. Her fanbase isn't like Pekora's where they tune in to see her struggle and eventually overcome a long game. Gura's fans just tune out if this happens and would rather see her do other things.

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>>4480320
>Her fanbase isn't like Pekora's where they tune in to see her struggle and eventually overcome a long game. Gura's fans just tune out if this happens and would rather see her do other things.
I agree with this. Gura isn’t a good gamer to begin with, and for some people, it can be frustrating watching her play badly all the time. Most turn in for her commentary, but if the game is demanding of her attention, the commentary can take a backseat to the game. Which defeats the point. Not sure if she figured that out yet.

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>>4480320
Gura badly needs an editor. Her gameplay is better suited in highlights rather than long jrpg style streams because she's not a great gamer. You won't really see that much variety in her streams because they are locked in memberships.

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>>4478743
>>4479395
>Apex
Apex=Nijis is partially caused by who plays the game. The thread notices them because they are played by mid-top tier nijis with Ghoul as the shining example. And they tend to set trends within the organization because numbers. Holos who play Apex are invisible to this thread and are probably looking at overall JP trends than internally. Even Astel, the best Apex player currently in holopro, is not relevant to numberfags.

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>>4480089
Loumau

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>>4480662
For a bit of comparison, is Pekora better a gamer than Gura? Gura has so many gaming skills deficiency I cant understand, for normal people if they transition from 1 similar game to another, they can get in quickly, she however needs to relearn again, it's weird

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>>4475705
Oh nonono, Lize is out of 10k+ zone and Mito is barely hanging on there by 700 viewers. I thought female Nijis are popular too? What's your excuse now?

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>>4480932
Pekora are worst platformer , the reason Capcom pick pekora to play their makaimura for promotion is because nousagi would just buy the game and cleard it before pekora did and bullied her with the screenshot.

But if it's casino game or Dragon Quest then it's different story.

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>>4479395
>As for how many they stream per month, you can see on ( )
Oh, see that's more interesting. Let's see... man, some of those numbers are so disparate. There's even Niji's that have low single-digit number of streams (even just one streams in many cases). It really obfuscates who is really active and who isn't along the entire infographic.

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>>4480662
That actually got me thinking. Gura would be much better off with a variety of content similar to Marine, in fact, that would be perfect for her. Lots of singing, talking, and other variety content with gaming thrown in every once in a while for variety sake. She is always compared to Pekora because of the BEEG NUMBAHS, but Marine should be her goal, not Pekora.

It's actually hard to play long games and keep an audience engaged while not being too distracted by the game the whole time. Really only Pekora and Miko have mastered it off the top of my head.

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>>4481054
Pekora's casino shit in DQ is funny as hell. She's really good at being able to play up the instant karma factor.

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>>4481054
I watch Gura regularly and for real, her gaming ability if not rhythm is so abysmally low that I dont know why she picks some of the game she plays (RDR2 not learning deadeyes a very simple mechanics, brawling not even knowing how to block, etc). It's no surprise people dont want to watch after 1st stream. People can tolerate hard game but not bad gamer I supposed, especially one who cant even grasp and remember simple controls. It's like a brain defect to her.

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>>4481242
It's why the comparisons about numbers don't make much sense when there's many who stream regularly, others that stream a bit more, others less and others that are like months or years without streaming. To analyze NijiJP there's a lot more context than just the numbers.

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>>4481486
But then what are these people doing when they're not streaming? Do these count uploads/premieres or other videos where they are featured like the main Niji channel?

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>>4481641
Not all of them are full time streamers. They have jobs, are in school or simply don't want to stream much.

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>>4481276
Yeah this

Pekora, Miko, and Gura all suck ass at videogames but Pekora and Miko have an uncanny ability to channel self deferential humor unto themselves and play into the bullying for entertainment sake. It doesn't hurt that both Peko and Miko are naturally funny and great at filling dead air. They manage to turn a playthrough that should be frustrating to watch into something hilarious because not only are you laughing at them, but they are playing into your laughter by hamming it up while also laughing at themselves. You are right, Pekora and Miko are masters of this and that is probably why the both of them primarily play games over other forms of content.

Gura can't do this, and before chumbuds crucify me I am not saying that Gura isn't entertaining, she is just a different kind of entertainer and is good at different things. Her singing is A-class and her talking streams where she is letting herself open up a bit and chilling with chat are some of the best streams hololive has. This is what she should be shooting for and not the constant gaming that Pekora and Miko do. She can't improvise content nearly as well as they can. Marine is the perfect comparison. Her content output should very much look exactly like Marine's does as far as variety goes.

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>>4481641
The ones that don't stream much probably are either working full or part time or studying. The 4 ones who don't stream for a while we don't know.

Imagine those ones like Ayame and Shion who also don't stream as much. The difference is that in nijisanji there's many more like that. lol

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>>4481486
>It's why the comparisons about numbers don't make much sense
Why not? There's a lazy fuck who get 19k and then there are lazy fucks who get ~5k, and ~3k. Stream addicts like Chronoir are at the top too.

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>>4481708
>>4481856
No, I know that. I am more dumbstruck by the fact that whoever made this list didn't even think that people would use these to talk Nijis up/down. If I had been the one making these, I'd create at least two graphs for people with high activity and one for people with low activity. At least now I can understand more clearly why Nijis seem to have lower overall viewership numbers in spite of their overall larger roster.

How does Nijisanji even sell the numbers to advertisers? I wonder...

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All this talk about games when Pekora, Korone, and Aqua are the only Holos who rely on actual gameplay. The rest are entertainers and always do better when chatting, singing, or interacting with chat in some way. The sooner these girls stop playing video games the sooner they will see more money by building a dedicated audience versus kids with 0 attention span checking out the latest Twitch fotm

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>>4481767
She cant learn simple game controls, you think she has the brain to understand what you just said? When Peko or Miko is frustrated you can take it for laugh, when Gura does it is because she is so bad at game and her frustration turns people off

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>>4482453
What are you on about. Rushia, Coco, Flare and Kiara all plays games and ahve no problem getting their SCs. It's about interaction and giving enough attention to them. That's why they have SC readings. Ayame for one almost always has SC readings. You know for sure you will get noticed if you send her a note. A game can be used as a platform for discussion. It also gives artists some new concepts to work on. You can also see them getting game sponsorships because technically they do play games. All zatsus or singing streams are boring. Even fucking Suisei doesn't do that.

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>>4482452
Having a mostly Japanese audience helps with driving sales nationally.
Cover is still stuck with the problem of how to get foreign fans to buy things they're shilling when shipping and customs are raping them. Not to mention all the Japan exclusive merch like the crane games that foreigners are forced to buy second hand and conbini promotions.

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>>4482810
This statement really makes me wonder that if EN2 blows up the same way that EN1 did if Cover would consider opening up an office in America or something. Would certainly help with getting their western talent 3D, merch, studio time for covers, etc.

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>>4481276
>>4481767
Agreed. I guess we will see how it plays out.
>>4482453
>The sooner these girls stop playing video games
That wasn’t my point though, and I’m the one who started with the idea that Gura needed variety. No one was saying for them to play no games, but rather to play to their strengths in general. Which can include certain games. It’s a complicated point that is totally missed if you take from it that all games = bad. It’s more like mixing it up, especially if gaming is not a VTubers strong point, or the best way for her to entertain chat.

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>>4481987
Sure it does make some sense, but it's not like in hololive where the girls stream more regularly in comparison.

>>4482452
I don't disagree. It should be more organized by the ones who stream the most and then they put the numbers out there. And to make it better, putting the subs as well there because many have lower subs but higher viewership than others who more subs.

>>4475705

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>>4482810
The nendos will be shilping from the US. So at least that one is a good start

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>>4482939
EN1 was pretty much the perfect storm of good timing, I don't expect EN2 to blow as much but they will get big in no time.
>>4483127
Yeah the nendos are a good first step since those are easy to get overseas.
The Matsuri nendoroid seems to be selling well at least.
Pic is from Amiami.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4482939
NTA

If we go by >>4455547 then the earnings by unit are as follows:
>JP1: $181,438
>JP2: $158,648
>JP3: $396,886
>JP4: $319,216
>EN1: $360,626
Note: I am not counting JP0, JP5 and Gamers because they are short members to size up fairly.

If we get an EN2 that is able to produce over $300,000 regularly like EN, then Cover would be idiots not to at least start marketing to the west locally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4484069
And just based off that, Youtube takes home 425k~. Crazy.

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>>4483518
>EN1 was pretty much the perfect storm of good timing, I don't expect EN2 to blow up as much
I'm really interested to see what happens. History has shown, from ID and JP, that Gen 2 has always been more popular than the Gen 1. EN1's success was a bit special like you said though so I can't wait to see if this trend continues.

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>>4484069
Half of those 360k came from the outfit reveal

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>>4484069
Locally by which you mean having somewhere to put their merch? It would make more sense to just partner with a distributor that can handle manufacturing, shipping and handling of their goods internationally. EN1 and possibly all EN2 will be spread atleast all over NA. HoloJP only works with one office because they can all take the transit to Tokyo. It would be cheaper to fly over the EN1 for special 3D events

[Anonymous No.]

>>4484332
Wrong, EN has always consistently been the top earning gen every month next to gen 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>4484394
Marketing, anon. Have offices that they can regularly use for legalese and other things that they could use to pitch Hololive to local markets. Japan and the US have mostly different business hours and having offices in a local market could help with covering blind spots in their ability to pitch the girls to sponsors and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4484332

April: $287,995
Cali: $122,994
Kiara: $59,718
Gura: $53,058
Ame: $34,572
Ina: $17,653

March: $225,562
Kiara: $71,951
Cali: $56,678
Gura: $45,657
Ame: $28,257
Ina: $23,019

February: $248,818
Kiara: $73,899
Cali: $50,631
Gura: $50,023
Ame: $48,442
Ina: $25,823

January: $363,434
Cali: $132,037
Gura: $83,230
Kiara: $73,962
Ame: $51,087
Ina: $23,118

EN1 is a success, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4484717
You don't need an office for that. You just need one or two people that can represent them. They already can remotely from Japan. A lot of transactions happen in between corporate levels especially in entertainment without actually meeting them in person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4484849
So their normal number is 250k, noted

[Anonymous No.]

I went to check their recruit page and noticed they added several positions they're hiring for compared to last time checked on April (this is just deepl translation)
013-1 総務担当 General Affairs
014-2 法務担当 General Counsel (Legal)
111-1 事業推進部スタッフ Business Promotion Department Staff
114-1 アシスタントディレクター(英語圏担当) Assistant Director (English Speaking)
114-3 コンテンツ制作進行窓口(英語圏担当) Content Production Progress Contact
114-4 社内ブリッジスタッフ(日英翻訳通訳) Internal Bridge Staff (JP-EN translation and interpretation)
124-1 アートディレクター(既存VTuber) Art Director (Existing Vtubers)
321-1 テクニカルスタッフ Technical Staff
322-1 配信企画ディレクター Director of Delivery Planning
411-5 ライツ営業部 Rights Sales Department
436-1 ライブイベントの予算管理マネージャー Manager of budget management for live events
436-2 プロモーション担当(ライブイベント) Promotion Manager (Live Events)
602-1 業務企画担当 Business Planning Manager
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[Anonymous No.]

>>4465009
there is something wrong about these numbers, I was watching the gura stream, and I could have sworn the "watching now" number was in the low-mid 20's at about an hour into the stream.. 22k or 23k i think

[Anonymous No.]

>>4469175
> What is driving that growth?

I think she released an album last month, plus a like 3 covers (2 in collabs), a high profile collab streams (coco), outfit reveal, didn't she have a birthday recently, plus her music all has 3-6mil views. it adds up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4486660
TTRP stream seemed to have also given her a bump. A ton of artwork has been made off that one stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4486102
They are going hard for those concert money

[Anonymous No.]

>>4486793
Can you blame them? They’re grossing in the millions each.
No idea how much their VR ones are netting though. Apparently Lamy was given so many gifts that the yukimins nearly crashed the servers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4486873
Jesus christ. Such potential...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4486873
I hope the vtuber earns more during these concerts as far as profit distribution goes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4486470
It’s a fault in VNUMA’s collection of data. It captures it every 4mins, sometimes missing the peak. It had Gura at 170k+ for example. However, its tolerated it tracks vtubers from different agencies and treats everyone equally horribly. If you want better numbers theres holostats but thats only for holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473210
It used to until she was forced to nerf all of it because of youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>4484299
Holostars Gen 2 also curiously the most popular gen in Stars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4469235
Bahroo and Connor are nearby. Checks out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4484299
EN2 will have a Minato Aqua equivalent. EN3 is where the powerhouse gen is

[Anonymous No.]

>>4487809
Roberu and Astel have HoloID live viewership numbers which is not bad considering they were ~200-400 view streamers half a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4487809
Gen 3 got hit when Kaoru graduated similar to how holo Gen 5 suffered when Aloe left. Before that Kaoru was inclining massively and got almost 2-3k views

[Anonymous No.]

>>4488139
Did Kaoru get fired because he was too successful and Cover was scared Holopro will become like Niji? Where male thrive and unicorns abandoned their female oshis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4488750
Nobody knows, his graduation was very sudden and came at the host of a ton of rumours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4454992
how can gura still not surpass pekora?
>english
>double amount of subs
>loli

[Anonymous No.]

>>4489145
Her viewers are spread all around the world so a smaller fraction of them watch her live
In the end, they watch the VODs, in which Gura has an advantage over Pekora since her fanbase is bigger.
However, Gura will never be able to get 70k live viewers for streaming FFX or DQ. When Peko is streaming at JP primetime, most of her fanbase want to watch her live.
Only Gura's big events get those big live viewer numbers, and they are BIG when they happen. Like that 194k on the costume reveal

[Anonymous No.]

>>4487168
If it follows entertainment industry trends then yes. Live events make entertainers orders of fucktons more money than their distribution deals. I dont think vtubing would deviate too much from it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4456444
Gtfo bleach coat riding faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>4488750
>>4488779
His last word in twitter only said that "it's time to call a quit when you still can"

Also the guys joined in bayblade tournament calling himself "Kaoru" , until Cover jump in and NDA-ed him not to use that name ever again outside Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4489145
Depending on the metrics you are looking at Gura surpassed Pekora already. If you are just looking at live CCU than Pekora will probably never be surpassed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4487864
9 months in. All EN crossed 1 million each. You really think that can be matched?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4489145
In terms of views, no. More people watch Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4470707
It actually does include them though. Gura was the only one who had her highest stream left out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4455547
>lowest EN earns more than nearly two-thirds of the JP branch
I thought EOPs didn't donate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4489763
One look at playboard and Gura views are literally the highest in hololive even before the outfit reveal, what're you talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4455352
>translate, weeb
Learn literally a few little hieroglyphs

[Anonymous No.]

>>4489721
Yes, the new toy always gets the best shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4489763
Gura has had 22 vids that is over 1M views. Pekora has 7 including mvs. She has been streaming for almost 2 years. With a collective views of 189M. Gura has been at this for for 8months with 118M views. You can do the math that Gura has far more greater view count. That's why in a business perspective, Gura is losing money by not making 10min highlight views of each stream. Clearly people will watch her even when she's not live. The pekora experience is far better anyways live. Her interactions with fans are one of the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490561
The best way to look at it is that Pekora has more concentrated and dedicate fans but lower max, Gura has higher max but less dedicated fans. Gura can reach high that Pekora can not, but Pekora has consistency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4489915
They do, forgot the Canada vs USA superchat war on Calli's stream?

Also HoloID data are inaccurated as fuck because they can't SC due to blocked by law and only able to donate via streamlabs (paypal) and those numbers not being counted in every YT data.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490561
Views isnt 1 to 1 retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490906
It's obviously not. That is why I provided numbers. You can obviously see that as per viewer behavior, if Gura maintains her numbers, she can obviously surpass Pekora no problem as far as view numbers even if she doesn't surpass her live views. People treat her channel more like a general gaming channel that they watch but not necessarily live. She can get more views if she hires an editor. She should have enough money by now to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4491573
Bitch please, gura didnt even reach 15k in her stream today

[Anonymous No.]

>>4492420
Everyone has low viewership streams sometimes, even pekora has failed to get 15k in some games like bravely default.
You can't single out a stream as an argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4492420
Everyone has their off days anon

Just because Gura didn't hit 15k viewers today doesn't automatically mean she lost in viewership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4492591
Gura hits below 20k more frequently

[Anonymous No.]

>>4492540
It was multiple streams for gura, she even averaged only 16k in april

[Anonymous No.]

All these number threads always end up with pekora vs gura, wtf is wrong with their fanbases are they not satisfied with the fact that both their oshis are probably the top 2 vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4492849
Marine is number 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>4492849
I suspect the fanbases doesnt care too much.
Numberchads definitely do care however.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4455547
Why is choco so low? :( I don't see particular flaws in her design/voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>4492600
Yes Gura does frequently get less thatn 20k viewers

But despite that, Gura still beats Pekora in views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4466305
its okay her wife makes gazillions of dollarydoos

[Anonymous No.]

>>4492961
Gura fanbase doesnt but Pekora fanbase definitely does. Go on the unofficial Discord of the rabbit and you can see mocking of Gura there. Hopefully the "chat reflects the streamer" doesnt apply in this case

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493011
Gura doesn't have good live viewer numbers because her fanbase is not concentrated on one timezone. A lot of them just watch VODs because it's impossible for them to watch live

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493011
Again, vod views between two channel isnt 1 to 1

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493711
Remember when chumfaggots raided fubuki? Thats why i laugh at their oshi reclining

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493754
Gura fanbase does still have that issue of picking game they want to watch instead of being dedicated like Pekora's. The viewers amount and even the VODs between some games are quite staggering when she stream this game vs another

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493820
Not gonna defend the chumbuds but clinging to such long ago events of more than half a year are kind of on par with antis' mindset desu, and I believe no one defend antis

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493754
Mori got 130k in jp prime time, chumbuds or the one that is subbed to gura can definitely watch but they dont want to. Having a different timezone isnt an excuse anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>4466254
>>4466305
Don't worry it's not that bad
https://streamable.com/26l9y3

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493876
No, i aint dissin the streamer nor anti them, i just laugh at their viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493896
Well of course, they could go out of their way to watch her like some of her most loyal members do every day, but they choose to watch vods because it's more convenient unless it's a special occasion.
Idk why people don't understand this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493876
Do you expect them to watch more than 3 minutes of the stream when they cant even watch the livestream? This is why vod is such a retarded metric

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493972
Meant for you>>4493932

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493972
Yes, like people watch regular YouTube videos, youtube's main market
Like it's been happening for years, for thousands of different channels.
Exactly like that.
They might not watch 6 hours straight of something but people don't just click away after 30 seconds like you assume, on average you could expect something like an hour or so.
I say this because even established youtubers put out hour long pre recorded videos because those get better watchtime than shorter ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493876
Good for you. You can be nice and forgiving when faggots raid your oshi.
I, for one, have a long memory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493786
>I'm Retarded: The Post

[Anonymous No.]

>>4482452
other than nijisanji dominating JP local market, another reason is that Nijisanji audience are way more diverse than hololive fanbase. i mean WAAAY more diverse.
Can you imagine hololive takes male itchy crotch relief CM? Nijisanji can and absolutely blew it the fuck up.
They simply can do anything and advertiser loves it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4494822
Cope, chumbuds. You are full of excuses

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493972
Did you forget how let's plays were handled before the livestream age?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4494947
>be retarded
>get called retarded
>"C-cope, ch-chumbuds!"
Retarded numberfags have chumbuds living rent free in their heads worse than antis do Kiara.

In case you don't get it, no, I am not a chumbud (not even a member of hers).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4494947
Beat that 194k then.
>but it was a special one in a life time event, it doesnt count
Still, beat that first then, where is the special one time event of such caliber of the others?

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji Bomberman tournament < Nijijsanji Mahjong tournament
Huh, I thought Bomberman one would attract more viewership than the Mahjong tournament, but it isn't as popular as I thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495142
a bit different, bomberman tournament has so many stream opens at the same time (22+1)
while mahjong are concentrated into only 5 (4 competitor and 1 main)
of course the number watered down

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495142 (OP)
> (the game) it isn't as popular as I thought with the viewers.
Anyone who have an idea how popular Bomberman is in Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

104138 in total, but the way the tournament is hosted just watered down the peak

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495269
it's not unpopular by any mean, but it's nowhere trending that's for sure. A party game that's it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495368
>just adds them up
to assume every single one of them reached their peak at the exact same time is incredibly retarded, why are you even on this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495474
never did i say this is the peak dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495487
but you did just add them up

[Anonymous No.]

Tribalism is such a unnecessary thing that stem from vtubing. Like if you like number so much, you should know that the growth of vtuber industry can be halted and culled easily even by division between their talent fans and this can repulse the arrival of new vtuber watchers.
Virtual Youtubers itself such an unstable market that can be toppled overnight from various reason, like from example gamebu popularity that died overnight because of retarded company policy which killed them with no point of return even when they tried to fix itself. Some of their fans do jump to other vtuber ships but there's some who just gave up to vtuber itself because their perception towards vtuber has been blurred by such event.
Unlike the market for normal streamer, where the fuck up of a steamer or a company of streamers won't affect much towards the incoming stream of people who would watch normal streamer. Vtuber market is fickle where one drama could cause ripple effect toward vtuber industry because people associate vtuber as one brand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495514
yes i add them up, this is the realtime summary, are you going to try to find a peak moment for over 20+ channel in the same time? good luck with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495043
Feel sorry for you being a kfpnigger
>>4495056
Thats the only thing you chumbuds have aside from subs and vod which is inflated by tourists btw lol, if gura was so better than peko then why didnt that 194k tuned into gura's dmc earlier. Kek. You people keep targetting niji while when its your turn, you keep crying that gura has many fans in different timezone

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495599
>are you going to try to find a peak moment for over 20+ channel
if you don't know how to do it right, just don't do it at all. By adding up the peaks you just made a retarded calculation that means nothing.
But if you wanted to do it right, you could go over on vnuma, open those 50 streams, and add up the values from an exact same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495043
>living rent free
This is numberfag thread faggot, its used to shit on a streamers numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495678
>high VODs from ability to pull in people
Are you trying to flatter or trying to shame?
Also, beat that 194k first then, all located in one time zone = higher than that, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495474
>>just adds them up
>to assume every single one of them reached their peak at the exact same time is incredibly retarded, why are you even on this thread
meh, its just a little over 100k anyway. surely the real combined peak number couldnt be far below 100k considering its a wide company event.
I know nijis had been mogged all week, but their numbers arent that declining that these sort of events would get <100k combined peak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495861
How did that one timezone people tuned in to a jp primetime?? TOURIST

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495905
Gonna need another 2 months break and return or something for a 145k? 194 > 145 in case you cant math

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495043
>In case you don't get it, no, I am not a chumbud (not even a member of hers).
Of course you dont. youre seething at a numberchad on a numberfag thread. your subscription list is probably filled with chuubas from a certain less popular group/company

[Anonymous No.]

>>4494789
Ok, I got it.
You are a pathetic person then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495989
>Muh my 194k
Kek, is this the holoens equivalent of niji merch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4496493
Beat "niji merch" yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4496493
Nutsagi why can’t Pekora beat that record?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495741
Jesus christ,let me say it this way
HOW
do you find that exact time
when the sum peak of 20+ channel happening?
Surely you can add every single channel's number up,compared each time Vnuma refreshes in the past hour and eventually get the highest point after like 10 hours of work?
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495822
>ESL
>calls in on a numberfag thread
>can't even numberfag without cherrypicking
>calls others names because he can't win on the arguments
As I said, retarded.