/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

WHAT WAS SHE THINKING?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
who?

[Anonymous No.]

The retardation of Ironmouse has seeped into Kson.

[Anonymous No.]

Uh oh, she's going the Iron "change models every three months" Mouse route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
It's not like she uses a vtuber model that much anyways, she's a fleshtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
I can understand outfits... but changing models every 4 months is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
>>44529029

[Anonymous No.]

TALENT
FREEDOM

[Anonymous No.]

>a woman's desire to be a loli inverses her actual physical age

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
oh, she actually vtubing, shocking

[Anonymous No.]

>It's another episode of "numbermonkeys react to something Kson did 2 months ago because they finally noticed her tweeting about it"

[Anonymous No.]

>>44529283
This one was only a month ago so they're getting better!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
>befriends pikamee
>gets groomed into becoming a loli
imagine my shock

[Anonymous No.]

>>44529057
Why do you care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44529283
>kson is so irrelevant these days that no one even watches her streams anymore
Okay

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[Anonymous No.]

>>44530011
people do
SEA creatures do not

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530011
>numberfags are people

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
Wait, that can't be real

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530030
nah, nobody watches her.

[Anonymous No.]

Least it's better than SUPER

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530113
it's a joke toggle on an otherwise normal looking model but brown people have deluded themselves into thinking its the main design

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530157
Literally zero viewers and can still afford more models than a million dollar company, imagine that lol

[Anonymous No.]

jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530319

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530016
The fact it's silvervale is what makes this such a great image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530581
why

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530632
>express the "freedom" that your group is known for
>get attacked by troons and thrown under the bus by said group

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530632
Because the talent freedom advert ends badly when talent pictured streams a game, gets harassed/doxxed and then has members of her own company say "everyone makes mistakes" as if she shouldn't have streamed.

So much for talent freedom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530352
>promised to never join a corpo again
Did she? I don't think I ever heard her said that, if you have a clip about it than I would give you the win

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530662
>>44530677
Cool narrative. Here's Silver fighting the final boss of the game holofags can't play lol
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1745439616?t=7h43m8s

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530016
>can't play hogwarts legacy

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530677
>froot: incredibly vague statement
>mahmoud: hmmmm she obviously meant *schizo conjecture*

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>>44530740
>>44530729

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530722
she didn't
i posted that to point out what country kson antis are from

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530729
Did Silver ever acknowledge Froot's message of "I'm gald you're doing better" ? or she just ignored it?

[Anonymous No.]

Did that silver whore even incline after the drama buff? Seems like Vshitshow can only manufacture drama for views. What about froot, why did she side with the troons though. did mouse say anything about the matter?

Yawn. Vshitshow is so boring

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530815
>literally begging for numbers and drama updates despite having 50 different number tracking websites and a high school gossip thread
the absolute state of numberfags

[Anonymous No.]

All that bragging about le based whore play le chuddie game, but her other whore co workers side with the troons. kinda sad tbdesu

[Anonymous No.]

>>44531134
>numberfags are unaware that everyone including Froot stood up for her
>desperately bumping the thread with slain narratives
how the mighty have fallen

[Anonymous No.]

which mighty, kshart's numbers? now thats how the mighty have fallen.

[Anonymous No.]

>kson thread
>numbermonkeys seething
What a surprise

[Anonymous No.]

>>44531404
>blatantly insult numberfags changing from numberchads into desperate, pathetic, and uninformed apes
>they don't understand because they don't speak english
rumao

[Anonymous No.]

Are numbers really something to be feared? vshitshowkeks seem to view numbers as the boogeyman. maybe it makes sense cuz one of the founders of Vshitshow had Nyanderthals as fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44531825
It's kinda impressive that numberESLs still haven't come up with the insanely obvious "VHojo" despite having 3 years to brainstorm nicknames.

[Anonymous No.]

Huh. Why should >we give you a name >>>brainstorming vshitshow whores huh. what a brain process, do they really think they're some big league just because they won a "pat yourself" award? kekeke

[Anonymous No.]

Outside of the obvious antis peddling these threads, why do they never have any actual criticisms about their content? Do you guys go out of your way to be updated on people you obviously hate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44529283
She's that that irrelevant now, huh.
At least these incitefags are reminding people she still exists.

[Anonymous No.]

Its just bantz bro take it easy,

[Anonymous No.]

>>44532150
???? what

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
freedom from talent

[Anonymous No.]

>>44532150
learn english bro, holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>44532223
We don't call them monkeys for no reason. They have no actual thoughts, no actual criticism, they don't even actually know numbers except for a single out of context screenshot the chief monkey posts for them in the number monkey thread every month or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44532509
>chief monkey
lol

[Anonymous No.]

they're acting like Nyanderthals now. oh well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530220
Jeez anon I wonder from what part of her life she got that money from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534097

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534097
>retard thinks Kson isn't making even more money now

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534212
oh no numberbros she beat marine and the numberbunny

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534212
>SC cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534524
>He thinks Kson isn't getting tons of sponsorships, corporate collabs and piles of merch

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>>44534524

[Anonymous No.]

>holofags got mogged by vox so hard they adopted niji's muh merch cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534675

Just a reminder that this collab did so well that they told Kson they wanted to do another before the event even ended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534524
I only care about talent.
i assure you that all the money from sc (except what youtube takes) goes to their pockets, same with their merchandise.
YOU can assure me that what they make from the image you posted goes to the talent?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534779
All the money made from that image goes to the genshin impact development fund

[Anonymous No.]

Tatsucucks are so sensitive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534827
>noutoddlers have arrived
>i got mogged in scs despite fifty thousand filipino kids watching every stream but at least i have a statue

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534703
how's milord doing these days? beating bettel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534941
I have literally no idea who that is but it's cute to see you deflecting already

[Anonymous No.]

whoops

[Anonymous No.]

this cant be real

[Anonymous No.]

>>44529153
Jeysus. This became her content? I thought la creatividad.

[Anonymous No.]

It's par for course that any vshouwhore that manages to get a decent model will inevitably downgrade it. That's why Pika will reincarnate in that company. They share her philosophy of pursuing the worst vtuber design imaginable while rejecting iconic well made ones.

[Anonymous No.]

At least she hasn't downgraded into another Vei clone like it happened with Lumi.
Also it's not permanent.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>44530729
Is that really the final boss? Kind of lame, all things considered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44539839
Coco's idea of creativity being titty streams and sseeeexx was a meme even before she graduated

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
kSON is the prime example of why talent freedom is not a strength

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
>getting old
>copes with a loli model

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534524
Has that fucking Gura thing still not sold?
I thought they were doing some charity auction shit with it??

[Anonymous No.]

>>44541274
You know that no loli in this hobby is real, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44541571
kobo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
She wasn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>44541630
nigger...if that were the case, all Thai prostitutes would be considered lolis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
Kson doesn't think at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
trying to leech from cunny tubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530722
She did say never again, but not firmly made a "promise" if ppl think its that important.
She was tired of corpos that was she very open with

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534290
Than in Holo? Fat chance

You are free to prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
She was corrupted by this whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>44545144
Doesn't Hololive take like half the revenue from their chuubas? Obviously Vshojo will take a cut now, but it won't be nowhere near that high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44545259
based. I wonder how quickly she submitted when Silver gave her the wolf cock

[Anonymous No.]

>>44545144

She made a half million just in superchats last year, and Hololive doesn't get a cut of that anymore, and neither does Vshojo. Ditto memberships, (Youtube AND Twitch) and all the merch/sponsorships/ and official collabs she's done in the past year that weren't directly arranged by Vshojo, which is 90% of them.

After the Taiwan incident Hololive put Coco in the punishment box anyway, so it's not like they were actively doing much to promote her in exchange for that fat revenue share they were taking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44545411
For starters Twitch takes higher cut than YT.
And Holo aint taking 50% although the actual % I think is not known.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44545144
let's see
-profit from merchandise
kson: earns 100% of the profits
holo: nothing (money goes to the corporation)
-profits from sponsorships
kson: earns 100% of the profits
holo: nothing (the rights of the character belong to the corporation)
-SC/bits and subscriptions
kson: earns 100% of the profits generated from his channel (excluding the youtube part)
holo: takes half of the SC after youtube takes its share, subscription and view revenues go to the corporation.
-salary
kson: no salary
holo: has his monthly salary as an employee of the corporation (much less than what he would earn if the corporation did not take its share)

[Anonymous No.]

>>44545959
>-profit from merchandise
>kson: earns 100% of the profits
Not 100%. Vshojo takes a cut from merch, but only merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546101

Not quite correct. Vshojo only makes money on their own merch, they do not get a cut on any merch that Kson makes for herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44545959
Now factor in the decline post Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546170

Basically what it boils down to is that what Vshojo buys is the right to freely use their members image and branding to make merch and arrange sponsorships/events which they get money for. Everything the member does on their own volition Vshojo doesn't get a cut from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44545959
proof that holos earn nothing from merch and sponsorships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546429
Holos even get the highest cut from merch of their different incomes.
Coco even said it herself its way better than SC...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546319
>My ad revenue is down slightly, noooooooo
What decline?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
You know she doesn't use that model regularly right? I've seen her use it maybe 4 times out of the last 20 streams since she's had it made, counting the debut itself. You'd know if you actually watched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546644

This entire thread is full of people scrambling to toss in their hot takes that prove they don't watch her at all. Like all the retards that think she's financially struggling, LMAO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546535
In viewers, you know... those that pay her salary.
You can't tell me solely the poor crowd jumped the boat around this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546718
to be fair, people only watch kson when she isn't using any model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530729
Her and Froot were cool in the stream where Silver finally came back. A bunch of people welcomed her back in that stream. Best part is that Froot is subbed to her as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44531545
They're mad that she continues to be in the top superchatted vtubers every month on youtube (which doesn't even count her twitch numbers either) and it kills their entire narrative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546762
>Still #7 in Superchats last year
>Multiple waves of merch selling out one after another
>Every stream chat is like 90% members
>Multiple high profile and highly successful corporate collabs. The Crane Game event went so well that they immediately told Kson they wanted to do another one.
Like I said, you don't watch her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546429
>>44546527


proof that holos DO earn a cut of the merchandise and sponsorships?
they don't have a problem talking about SC's, why do they have a problem talking about merchandise and sponsorship?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546936
can we even call her a vtuber? more than half of her content seems to be facecam or vlog shit these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546989
i mean.... she doesn't exactly get a lot of viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>44547156
look at her chat for any of those streams
it's all japanese and taiwanese people in their 30s and 40s with 2 year membership badges
no third world kids asking her to say ara ara

[Anonymous No.]

>>44541274
>Thinks Lolibaba is bad
Look at this retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>44547322
you're acting like a nijinog

[Anonymous No.]

>>44547001
0,5% tax wtf no wonder ID is a shithole country

[Anonymous No.]

>>44547391
i'm not chinese

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546989
>>Still #7 in Superchats last year

And what was her place b4 anon?

>Like I said, you don't watch her.
You are correct, I stopped 1-2w into the Vshojo arc

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530761
He's referring to Nazuna being forbidden to play it by management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546814
Mane-san please kindly fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44547494
recommended not to =/= forbidden

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530188
>normal looking
Anon those meds won't take themselves you know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44545411
Vshojo doesn't take a cut at all, twitch does tho. Vshojo makes it's money from their merch, which they do take a cut of. However merch is a massive money machine so it works out well for Vshojo in the end and keeps the talents happy with them not splitting any of their stream revenue. It's also fair since Vshojo get's them their merch made in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44547789
i'm sorry eye shadow makes you think about hardcore pornography mr john coomer from coomerica

[Anonymous No.]

>>44532223
Every time I'm exposed to a clip of kson's latest stunt against my will, it almost makes me nauseous. It's either LOLSEX, obvious whoring like "TEEHEE I'M STICKING MY ASS OUT DON'T LOOK SILLY BOYS", or gross out "humor"

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534212
>Luka Kaneshiro
>Fuwa Minato
Who the fuck are these people and why do people give money to them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44547532
>Mane-san
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44547466
>And what was her place b4 anon?
During her entire run or her graduation month? Cause I get the feeling you didn't watch Coco if you're only comparing Kson to the last month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44548024
maybe watch better clips then you fucking inbred

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>>44548026
It seems you're out of the loop old man. Kind of like when people act like Gura is the face of vtubing, but she's not the top superchatted or the most viewed. Sometimes your oshi is just old and busted and new oshis have popped up and now you're behind the times. Also shout out to fucking Subaru for killing it last year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546644
>4 times
4 times too many

[Anonymous No.]

>>44548104
Sry I meant during Coco, mby I caused some confusion there my bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>44547441
Could've fooled me

[Anonymous No.]

>>44548278
My point is her superchat revenue during her years as coco was roughly the same as her time now as Kson. However during her final month she raked in far more money(and views too) than normal because it was a huge event that she was leaving. The final day itself is where her big record comes from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44548243
I don't watch vtubers anymore. I just shitpost on /vt/ this place is more entertaining than any vtuber out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>this thread
tatsucuck cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534827
>>44548561
>cuck
you are projecting too much faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
Wait what

[Anonymous No.]

>>44548486
Based basement dweller

[Anonymous No.]

>>44548220
>he doesn't open random catbox links without thinking
You are not living your life correctly

[Anonymous No.]

>>44529153
I would drink from there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44541396
I guess they changed their mind and decided to just keep it to display at events instead of letting it be used for tax evasion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44548024
>LOLSEX, obvious whoring like "TEEHEE I'M STICKING MY ASS OUT DON'T LOOK SILLY BOYS", or gross out "humor"
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44545959
homostars mostly make money from merch, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530677
>and then has members of her own company say "everyone makes mistakes"
It has now become member"s", plural. Amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
so is this meant to be moetron or just another dogshit vshojo design,

[Anonymous No.]

>>44556892
What's the matter, anon? Don't like bratty teenage punks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44545959
>>let's see
>starts posting fanfiction

[Anonymous No.]

>>44555689
>source: my ass

[Anonymous No.]

I heard Thursday stream is takopa with someone
True or no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44558079
you are free to correct me with facts.
the voices in your head don't count, nor do your homos feelings towards COVER that make you think ¨SURE they would do it because they are good people¨.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44558674
You were the one asked to prove someone wrong, not me. And you didn't provide any facts to begin with.
Anyway, I do remember a few days back people were estimating Lamy's net income in 2022 (or 2021, I'm not sure) should amount to about $1.7m, based on how much taxes she declared having paid, and I'm pretty sure her SC would just constitute a small part of that sum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44558626
Yeah
https://twitter.com/kanameai

[Anonymous No.]

>>44559520
So you have nothing?
for that you'd better not answer

[Anonymous No.]

>>44559587
cool
wonder how much they'll grope each other this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>44560469
I have more than you do, at least. Here, have fun >>37167425
Not sure how you can think such big streamers wouldn't notice how inadequate their income is if what you thought from that post was true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
It's pretty cute tho wdym

[Anonymous No.]

>>44539873
They have solid reason about that.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop it
Kson knows that she can make more money if she stays in Hololive.

>"If I choose money, I would stay"
> 2 hours of silence stream.

She chose to graduation even she lost her money. She want to graduate before she burn out and hate to competition with her friends.

She is anti-number fag
Numberfaga hate her

[Anonymous No.]

>>44561640
I told you to give me facts and here you are using a FUCKING VT THREAD as proof.
I clearly told you not to use a "FOR SURE".

[Anonymous No.]

>>44562180
That's still speculations around something a talent said. You, on the other hand, still got absolutely nothing supporting your mindbogglingly retarded claims.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44562603
sure man the Japanese company would share the source of major profits to its employees to whom it already gives a salary.
they would give you a juicy slice of that money for nothing, it doesn't matter that the right of the characters belong to them under patent, they would do it because they are really cool, right?

you are so fucking stupid and retarded, get your ass out of your chair and go see how the world works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44563075
>le corpo hateboner
Jesus Christ, you're embarrassing to read. How the fuck do you think they can keep the talents to work with them if they don't remunerate them accordingly to their role?
The salary is peanuts and was used to provide talents a stable source of income early on when most of them were still part-timers. It's now outdated and I'm not even sure anyone even made mention of it in the last two years. Most of their income nowadays comes from merch, sponsors and SC+memberships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44564057
>How the fuck do you think they can keep the talents to work with them if they don't remunerate them accordingly to their role?
contracts, do you know them? or do you think they get a lot of money for doing streams 3 times a week?
>The salary is peanuts and was used to provide talents a stable source of income early on when most of them were still part-timers. It's now outdated and I'm not even sure anyone even made mention of it in the last two years. Most of their income nowadays comes from merch, sponsors and SC+memberships.

surely you can give me a timestamp where any holo talks about that, right?
Obviously this wasn't revealed to you in a dream, was it?
I use logic
you rely on the good feelings of a foreign company.
who is being the retard here?

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>>44565569
>who is being the retard here?
Still you, I'm pretty sure. Contracts are annual and if the pay was as terrible as you believe they would have dropped years ago.
Surely you can provide a source disproving this reasonable claim as you were asked from the start? :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>44565974
I never said the payments are terrible I'm pretty sure it gives them enough to live on and then some, don't try to deviate from the topic.
What I said is that they don't receive profits from merchandise and sponsorships because the character simply DOESN'T BELONG TO THEM.
not even the professional seiyus receive money from merchandise with the image of characters they played, or do you think that with every blu-ray sold they receive a part? stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>44566497
>professional seiyus

This anon are losing if you use Seiyus logic in Vtuber sphere. Your professional seiyus begin to realize Vtuber make more money than VA job

[Anonymous No.]

>>44528226
It's an esoteric thing, like crossdressing for males

[Anonymous No.]

>>44551598
That's yogurt not lemonade bruh

[Anonymous No.]

>>44566497
Except they have creative control and are directly involved with everything regarding the character, as opposed to seiyuus. They're called talents for a reason, they can't be separated from the character.
Suisei doesn't even belong to Cover, only her newer models do. Why the fuck do you think she's still there?
>don't try to deviate from the topic
You literally said they only get paid the fixed salary and their cut of SC, which is nothing for how big they are. >>44545959

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530011
She has the same audience she did before, but all the bandwagoners dropped off because she didn't stay dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44539839
newfag
or retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>44567575
>Except they have creative control and are directly involved with everything regarding the character, as opposed to seiyuus. They're called talents for a reason, they can't be separated from the character.
>Suisei doesn't even belong to Cover, only her newer models do. Why the fuck do you think she's still there?
i repeat the character DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM, if it did why didn't rushia fight for it when she was fired? and coco and sana could easily buy it. they were directly involved with the character or not?
>suisei's card
she came to an agreement with cover, as far as we know she owned the first model she had (which was lost in her old pc), cover was able to buy the rights to her model, she may be paying from her salary for her new model while keeping the rights to it, maybe cover made a contract to use her image for a few years, only she knows.
but the thing is, how does this exclusive and unique case affect the other 40 talents?
>You literally said they only get paid the fixed salary and their cut of SC, which is nothing for how big they are.
Yeah, and where did I say it was horrible? I said they make a lot less than they should if COVER didn't take its share.
I know you are stupid, probably a product of inbred sex, but I ask you to read it again, but this time slowly.

[Anonymous No.]

Had it made for a collab she wanted to do but then the other person fucking died

[Anonymous No.]

>>44569264
>I said they make a lot less than they should if COVER didn't take its share
That goes without saying. But, again, you specifically said they get no cut from anything other than SC, unsourced, when their top talents make way more than their own CEO.
Maybe care to read your own posts before accusing others of lacking reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44545959
>-profit from merchandise
>holo: nothing (money goes to the corporation)
>-profits from sponsorships
>holo: nothing (the rights of the character belong to the corporation)
where the literal fuck did you pull these from? genuine question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44570490
>But, again, you specifically said they get no cut from anything other than SC, unsourced,
and I stand by it and as I said before I use logic.
>when their top talents make way more than their own CEO.
once again you are guessing at random comments using your feelings towards the company which is obviously benevolent.LOL
>>44571133
>>.44563075

[Anonymous No.]

>>44530729
? holos can play, EN just doesnt wanna bother

[Anonymous No.]

>>44571448
>le based me destroyed your feelings with facts and logic
Still not a single source, not even something tangential. Fucking waste of time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8ISWLo27v0

[Anonymous No.]

>>44572371
>yagoo who management cut his salary for the apology to china screw-up
lol
I still can't explain to me why a company who owns the rights to a character should give a % of what that character generates to an employee who is already getting paid for doing his job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44573022
>why a company who owns the rights to a character should give a % of what that character generates to an employee
Because they aren't just employees, and what they're playing aren't just characters. They can't just replace them like they would replace the janitor who cleans the company bathrooms.
I know the comparison has been run into the ground by this point but they're legit very similar to pro wrestlers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44574373
>Because they aren't just employees, and what they're playing aren't just characters. They can't just replace them like they would replace the janitor who cleans the company bathrooms.
they can still get rid of them as if they never existed without the person playing them being able to do anything about it.
>I know the comparison has been run into the ground by this point but they're legit very similar to pro wrestlers.
if that's why coco, rushia, sana and aloe own their character right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44534941
>>44534703

[Anonymous No.]

>>44548243

[Anonymous No.]

>>44575191
Yes, and? We were talking about income, stop moving the goalpost. I don't care about your corpo hate spergout.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44577013
>>44577013
>responding to the retard is moving the goalposts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44577013
>Yes, and?
So when it comes to income, the character belongs to the talent because they are more than just employees, but if you graduate, the character no longer belongs to the talent because they are just employees?

you are retarded, I accept your concession

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>>44576059
Nice 7 day period bro. Now show the entire year.

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>>44540510
>thots can't meme

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>>44578230
You know what? Maybe you're right. Maybe I am retarded. Looking back at the first post I replied to, I should have immediately realized I was talking to a shitposter.

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>>44545959
I don't if any of that is true in your home dimension but here you just posted straight up lies

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>>44528226
what the fuck was she thinking?
was she thinking?
she stuck to the OG for so long and when she finally moved on it was such a big deal, it was very high quality, same artist as before, it was featured in promo material and even the anime short
and she ditches it to this generic souless little bitch model? one that has none of the energy or personality as the others, it looks nothing like her and makes her appear much younger
is this a hag midlife crisis?


>>44571630
Cope.
With that many talents there is no way not a single one of them had 0 interest in playing it.
It's a crowd pleaser, attracts big numbers and they'd have all the monopoly for themselves.
And wizard books are basically religion to millennial women.
None of them playing it is just extremely sus, ridiculously sus.
Either they were told they can't do it or some among them coerced the rest to not play it, which still means they can't play it, it simply means the one that forbid it shifted from cover to an inner clique.
If they wanted to deconfirm this narrative have at least 1 of them play it just for a day, say she didn't enjoy it, that would be believable.

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>>44548243
I'd still argue Ai Chan and Gura are tied as the face of vtubing in terms of "who is a random normie more likely to recognize?".

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>>44557080
No

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>>44578952
bayx2 anon, it's good that you will accept it now try to do better.
>>44578993
okay, disprove me

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>>44579306
I always felt like more normies knew Korone honestly, but I've never done a fucking survey at wal-mart

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>>44529283
>m-muh /#/fag
MOST

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>>44579164
>>44546644
>You know she doesn't use that model regularly right? I've seen her use it maybe 4 times out of the last 20 streams since she's had it made, counting the debut itself. You'd know if you actually watched.

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>>44571630
>EN just doesnt wanna bother
you mean EN's managers told them it's NG

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>>44547156
I stopped watching because less english streams and less games I know.
Simple as.
Would still smell her shirt though.

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>>44569678
Retarded bear had so much potencial...
What a waste

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>>44580162
My friends only know "the cunny shark".
But they're probably not the average guys.

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>>44578230
>the only way to get paid for something is to own the rights to the thing you're using
uh oh retard alert

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>>44528226
>Kson now has a loli model
I fail to see the problem

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>>44571448
>>>.44563075
>the source is uhhhhh IT'S JUST TRUE OKAY? even though it goes against everything the holos themselves have alluded to and implied since forever

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>>44545144
Look at this >>44534212
In contrast to holo vshojo doesn't take a cut (only from merch VShojo was involved in). On top of that you need to add twitch revenue. She also has a couple of direct sponsorships. Her NND account also makes a bit of money (because they added a subscription thing that she can't deactivate and her fans joined it for the luls)
Her ad revenue is likely close to 0. (YouTube usually deactivates them and she also hates ads)

She does have a narrow fanbase, but it's a demographic with lots of expendable cash (businessmen/women in their 30s or 40s judging from a twitter poll she once did).

So money isn't an issue for her.

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>>44528226
No way that happened.

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>>44583904
It's actually it's just a chibi mode with a giant head. All of KevinX's models have that. Silvervale and Mouse have that mode toggle as well.
https://twitter.com/kvxart/status/1585402251094691841 One of Silver's many outfits from Kevin.
https://twitter.com/kvxart/status/1619872932284764160 Kson
https://twitter.com/kvxart/status/1630776989543026689 Ironmouse
https://twitter.com/kvxart/status/1627807338232188930 Some chick named hanachan he just tweeted

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>>44579424
What's the matter, anon? Scared she might expose to the world that you can't handle one little punk brat teenager?

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>>44530319
It turns out nobody wants to listen to mickey mouse singing for hours without a blue dorito logo

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>>44528226
Doesn't that 3rd pic have two forms, or did she get a new new model already?

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>>44528226
VShojo influence

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>>44589929
Explained here: >>44586160

Bugman thread with retarded OP managed to yank in over 200 replies. Congrats to him I guess.

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>>44528226
Thinking?

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>go to her channel
>half of it is 3dpd shit
People still watch this actual ethot lmao

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>>44583845
and if you follow the conversation and don't answer the last thing you read? retard with poor reading comprehension

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>>44593227
People watch RL shit? Whoa, who would've thought

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>>44529011
BINGO

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>>44528226
retard woman

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>uhh I paid $2000 for a shitty model that barely moves that means I have the right to own you and everything you create and siphon the majority of your income in exchange for limiting what games you can play and le bonking you if you give a shoutout to your second largest fanbase
Imagine being a corpocuck simping for virtual landlords.

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>>44600039
Yeah, those girls are really stupid. They should have never got into Hololive in the first place, they would probably be far richer and more successful now.

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>>44528226
she's starting to feel her age. Isn't she half-white? She's not going to age as well as her asian peers

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>>44602020
>nooo exploitation is good because muh money
lol roru

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>>44593227
Kson's content was like this since 2017 and even like this during her suspension as coco.
Do you reps.

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>>44530016
ugly art
at least the artist got paid, i suppose

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>>44602723
his parents are Japanese anon.
She only grew up in the USA because her father worked there.

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>>44602773
>money
KEK
they only get their cut of SC while all the rest goes to Cover

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>>44532223
I have tried to watch most of them, they suck. I tried really hard to like IM because her voice is funny but her content is just way too bland

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>>44602882
>Ackshually, she was always a whore
Hence why Holo is superior to Vwhorejo, they made her try to do something interesting. Now she doesn't have to and just shows off her ass or tits occasionally to boost her view count. The Amouranth of Vtubing

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>>44605756
holo was founded with nico nico's whores, don't forget.
even now it has real whores among its ranks.
don't you think it's a bit hypocritical of you to complain about something to others when they still haven't solved their own problems?

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>>44605756
clipwatcher alert

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>>44546936
I loved that smile of mouse...it's too bad.

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>>44609304
Fuck i suddenly feel really bad about this, why did i make this.

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>>44609354
:( at least you regret it

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>>44605756
But enough about Noel

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>>44611815
Everyone in Hololive hates kson and always did.

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niceu

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>>44613390
everyone on hololive eats kson's pussy and keeps on doing it.