What happened?

[Anonymous No.]

A big win for Moona

[Anonymous No.]

big mooner

[Anonymous No.]

Now this is GRIM no matter how you look at it

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
>Sexo model better than cunny model
Sexo bros... we're winning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
She had 2 more minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Oh no no no

[Anonymous No.]

actual idol vs lazy meme shark

[Anonymous No.]

kys numberfag

[Anonymous No.]

Gura hired Pekora and Marine for noombersbait (didn't even sing with themkek) to place right at the start
But it backfired completely because the start was just awkward kusoJP bullshit drawn out for way too long

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
You wanna talk real grim? Take a look at SCs

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>>44248678
Kek chumbros what happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
What actually happened? Is it just the time slot debuff? She has four million subs for fuck's sake what the fuck is this

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248771
Unironically >>44248671
She gained 8k viewers INSTANTLY after that shit ended

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
>what happened
Moona rocked her initial 3D debut better than anyone I've seen. Her singing was spot on, her body movements were sexy, and her coworkers were left in disbelief. Moona should have a large 3D viewership for a long time.

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>>44248406
Can't beat a literal idol wcyd

[Anonymous No.]

as it turns out, not streaming for extended periods of times tends to kill your numbers
who'd have thunk?

[Anonymous No.]

Teacuck deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
2 minutes and 36 seconds different, of course moona is higher anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Boobs > cunny

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248878
>images (18)
Spot the phonefag, shu shu

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248878
t. seething chumpedo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
>first 3d appearance vs nth 3d appearance
maybe if you didn't have room temperature IQ you could figure it out

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>>44248976
It wasn't the first though
The first was in holofes, along with Myth
And she did plenty of 3D streams before the showcase

[Anonymous No.]

lookin pretty grim

[Anonymous No.]

Gura singing debuff, every time she started singing the numbers went down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406

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>>44248771
>Wheeled out her secret weapon guests right out of the gates
>Japanese filtered out EN fans
>Shitty skits
>Shitty song selection (No City Pop)
>Overly long shitty math skit cause hur hur dum shark can't count

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248976
It wasn't Moona's first 3D appearance, RETARDCHAD
She used it on holofes and on other streams after that

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248896
You know there's a chance that Kobo's 3D showcase would surpass Moona.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura needed to have a real comeback before 3d debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Even the most fanatical chumbuds were disappointed by Gura's lack of commitment. She doesn't care about her fans and doesn't even try to hide it

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249003
>>44249065
then on only difference is one streams and the other doesn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248939
>>44248970

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249097
B-But cumsharts told me Gura was super hyper mega busy with prepping for it to the point that she can't stream...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Guess people really moved on.....

[Anonymous No.]

The low numbers have probably depressed Gura and she'll go on another break because of tummy hort

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>>44249179
I prefer Gura and Robert version

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>>44248406
Everyone has already seen Gura in 3D plenty of times. This isn't a fair comparison.
>subs
Everyone knows they mean nothing.

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>>44249003
>>44249065
having an actual 3D event where you have the floor dedicated to you move around and your stuff is completely different from just having a 3D model in place of your 2D one, or just singing a song in a festival, they're in completely different categories altogether

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>>44249425
Anonchama, she was in holofes, dancing
Are you unironically retarded?

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>>44249468
did you not read the post at all

[Anonymous No.]

Well that was embarassing. I mean it's HoloID. The infamous "who?" branch. Not to mention it's the ESL idol as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249412
People also saw Moona's 3D dancing plenty of time before this

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Mooner!

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>>44248406
I'm sure chumbuds will come up with something. Or blame it on someone.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura is nearly at 600k vod views.
Moona is at 800k.

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>>44248678
playing out of spite = drama
drama garners stronger reactions than posing and laughing for an hour, no matter who goober collabs with.

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>>44248406
Gura's 3D was the biggest example of someone going through the motions i'd ever seen. 11 minutes of her being bad at math. 15 minutes on a trivia quiz that would have been better on a-chan's channel, and the rest was Kanauru skits. No city pop. She didn't even sing Reflect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Lazy Gura is declining!

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>>44249708
Are you seriously comparing VODS with months of difference.?

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>>44248406
They both got exactly what they deserved

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>>44249051
>>44248671
This makes the most sense to me

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>>44249769
no you fucking ape.
I'm saying while Moona got much higher live views because it was held in primetime Japan slot, Gura is already at 600k vod views and it's not even been 24 hours despite getting less live views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
>Moona
You mean Pekora's leech?
Does she even reach 5k in her normal streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249179
>unironically editing together ntr to call other people cucks
ame still cute tho idgaf

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249883
Nothing was preventing Gura from doing her live during JP primetime too you know.

[Anonymous No.]

I guess Holofans really got tired of being ghosted

[Anonymous No.]

So this is the Nijinniger and Shitposters deflection threads after she got the gold:

She did it on Weekday
She did it on Thursday
She did it at 10:00 PM EST. and most of the EST people go to sleep for work and school
She did it at 12:00 PM JST almost all her Asian fans were in school and work.
She never mentioned Pekora and Marine like the others. She never got any shilling from JP side aside of Koyo and 1 retweed from Marine early.
BUT of course this is a Nijinniger, Shizo, anti deflection thread from numberfag thread.
Truly pathetic.

Gura will always living rent free in your head
Cope, Seethe, an ESL reply anything you want, Gura will always live rent free in your head for all eternity

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>>44249989
>Pekora's leech
>Not invited Pekora during 3D showcase
>Got 87k ccv
>Not Pekora's leech
>Invited Pekora during 3D showcase
>Only got 67k ccv
hmm I wonder who is the leech, and it failed even.

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>>44250088
Well if Holo cared about numbers they would.
There's no point in alienating the NA market just to appease some moronic numberfags.

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>>44250158
>10PM EST is not a bad time
Holy chumcope
Moona's showcase was on a weekday too

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>>44250088
She is American and EST vbtuber. Her primetime hour is 7:00 PM EST and not 10:00pm

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249989
These people just want to celebrate victory over a tourist event since her ccv for regular streams is 2k aside from singing/minecraft/buff streams
jk they just want to anti gura so they use other holos since they couldn't care less about hololive

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>>44250206
She did it on Saturday also Holiday week on Japan or Indo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248678
>Pippacucks have a lot of money
No surprise there, cucks are usually loaded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249412
Did chumbuds even watch holofes or are they pretending to be retarded to cope? Both of them already had 3d streams before their 3d "debuts"

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250158
imagine coping as hard as this chumkek
your oshi is washed up

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250192
See? It's not hard to accept defeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250255
Yeah but is always the shitposters is against Gura or any Myth and Council. They definetely are from /JP/ board

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>>44250023

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
It funny how it always
>Holo vs holo
It never niji vs holo or any corpo cuz they already lost, kek

[Anonymous No.]

DEATH TO NIJI NIGGERS
>DEATH TO NIJI NIGGERS
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>DEATH TO NIJI NIGGERS

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>>44250365
"defeat"
What are you talking about you virgin? Both of them belong to Holo.

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>>44250342
Imagine seething so much and start a deflecting thread instead. Get a rope and KYS nijinniger

[Anonymous No.]

>criticise gura
>le nijinigger boogeyman
>criticise coco
>le bugman boogeyman

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>>44249883
>Most subscribed english vtuber streaming at EN primetime is at a disadvantage against an indonesian vtuber who neither knows english or japanese just because she streamed at her timezone's primetime which is near japan primetime
What kind of cope is this

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250398
aim for me i'm ame frfr

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249883
>1M subs vs 4M subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250568
>4M *dead subs
ftfy

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250420
I feel like there are too many newfags these days that don't even know why global exists

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250540
>streaming at EN primetime
No she didn't you mongoloid. If she want to stream in her primetime the studio will have open 2 hours early.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248678
As much I want to dunk on chumfucks, this fucking pisses me off.
Pippa is fucking trash...

Her ascends was:
Relentless catalog spam and shilling in here
Blatant Hololive leech (using Fauna's literal intro screen, using Holollive girls on her thumbnails clickbaiting as if they were Holocollabs, playing Hololive clips on her streams, all while shitting on Kiara.
Sucked bannedvtmemes dick to have her constantly shilled on his Twitter
Then feet cam whoring
Then Suicide bait
And now using Pikamee's graduation for opportunism...

Pippa is literally the most fucking garbage vtuber to ever take off and makes me fucking wonder how isn't she the most despised vtuber to ever live.

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>>44250695
She's garbage but she's just playing the game, and its showing results

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>>44250337
Being part of a hololive festival isn't your own 3D event, it's not remotely the same thing
You're preoccupied with the fact that it's literally 3D, the difference is in your 3D event you can have full creative freedom over the entire timeslot

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>>44250686
Anon it was prerecorded

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>>44250540
There are more live stream viewers on the JP side than EN/NA, Not rocket science you fucking pea brain.

V-Tuber isn't even close to the popularity levels it is in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249723
Drama or not Pippa was just another 3 views nobody a few months ago but now makes more money and gets more views than several of the HoloEn girls. Although her numbers did go up substantially only after Mori acknowledged her existence.

[Anonymous No.]

What were the numbers for the rest of holoEN?

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>>44250686
That was as primetime as it got, it covered afterwork hours for all US timezones without being too late for children
>europe

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250695
>That image
wtf Pippa is based?

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>>44250695
I hate Pippa too but it's not her fault everyone else is too much of a spineless coward to play this game to the point that playing it became some sort of "act of rebellion" that rallies random tourists behind you for noomberbuffs
If HoloEN wasn't spineless she wouldn't be able to leech anything

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>>44250206
it was staurday for moona

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>>44250856
Quite the cope considering it's an ID vtuber, not a JP one

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250784
Anon ... i now you shitposter brain isn't working and you ask me tro track your location and murder you. The only prerrecorder was kaneuru because thats the waiting time like ina, Mori and kiara. Everything else was alive. Use your brain and or maybe just open you skull and kys

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to be honest:
I don't like seeing Kanauru skinwalk as my oshi. It feels weird. When I watch her streams, I want to see Gura. Not the idea of Gura - I want to see her. Her movements. Her personality.
For half of this 3D showcase, we were watching a man pretend to be Gura and that just doesn't sit well with me. She's had so much time to record things and mocap for this event. There was no reason they had to hire a man to pretend to be my wife. It feels wrong. It makes me feel dirty.

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>>44250695
Hate the game not the playa

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>>44251000
Yes and when do you think Moona's 3D was held you absolute fucking moron?

On a Friday
During JP primetime.
With no one else being allowed to stream due to 3D rules.
Also she has quite a few JP fans because of PekoMoona and being a good singer.

Now stop using buzz words that you've just learned you tax thief and do something useful with your life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Segment shit is boring asf should've went singing like mooner

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250223
lol what’smwrong with 10pm? Do children go to sleep that early?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251000
>live
Quite cope consisering Gura already did too many showcase or maybe we should post 92k on EN primetime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shittty 87k JP primetime shilly by pekora and ask their fanbase to watch

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>>44250686
>her primetime
7PM PST 10PM EST is primetime if you have around an hour of streaming.
Because that is the best time slot for the Americas, where their audience is.
If you push it back then PST is still getting back from work. If you push it forward it becomes too late for EST.
Management knows what they are doing better than you retardchama, why do you think all of the streams are at the same time?

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>>44251152
He doesn't have ajob

[Anonymous No.]

Moona's showcase was great even though it was basically a mini 3D concert.
Don't know what the fuck Gura's showcase was, but it certainly wasn't a 3D live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249175
I guess not streaming for months will bleed ya viewers and mindshare, who woulda thunk?

[Anonymous No.]

whats moonas average again? can someone post the chart, I want a good laugh at sub humans

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251120
It was held during indo primetime, what about it? Boo hoo, it's unfair that indonesia is so close to Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251056
>Not the idea of Gura
that's what she has been for months, an idea to sell merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251056
Get used to it.
Gura is getting too lazy to stream and management will instead skinwalk her more and more to shill merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Honnestly myth 3D showcase... when their 3D was showcased dozen time before....

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251279
Alright cocksucker so what was the brilliant plan behind having it on a Thursday?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251171
>92k on EN primetime
Yeah about that… where did they go? And that kinda invalidates the whole argument about JP primetime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251056
>lets mane-san skinwalk her for twitter
>lets kanauru skinwalk her for concerts
What exactly does she do?

[Anonymous No.]

CCV is worthless and for virgins.
Not everyone can be present in real time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249412
>subs
>Everyone knows they mean nothing.
seriously
omg, it hunts me to see someone this retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251279
>Management knows what they are doing better than you retardchama,

BD showcase without saying 3D: 62k her EST primetime hour.
Anniversary 3D showcase: 92k in her EST primetime hour.
Also lets add they cut every 3D stream by half. before going to Japan
Nice EN manganers you got there then.

EST Fans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shitters PST fans

[Anonymous No.]

Man chumcucks are absolutely assblasted over an indo mogging their oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
The Vox vs pippa gets deleted but not this one hmm. Seems like nijikek jannies can handle banter like holochads

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251653
And vod views are worthless since 5 seconds is enough to count as a view, time watched is the only metric that matters

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249708
>Constantly brags about CCV
>gets BTFO
>B-b-but t-the VOD v-views
It's a beautiful sight to see chumpedos move goalposts

[Anonymous No.]

>4 million subs.
>BUT MUH EST TIME ZONE!!!
>4 million subs that you always wave so proudly..
>THEY MEAN NOTHING!!!
imagine degrading your own oshi to save face

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251582
EST fans >>>>> PST fans
they went to sleep and watch the VOD later. take a fucking hint.
Let add JP usually watch gura at 9:00 AM -10:00 AM instead 12:00PM when they are working or in school. Early for them is better. And no Euros will never help

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248678
Gura never does superchat readings and rarely acknowledges them at that. People who supercharged this stream just threw money into the void. Just save up and buy the merch if you actually want to support them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251742
You may kill yourself anytime bud

[Anonymous No.]

Man, Moona's success sure is breeding a lot of jealousy KEK

[Anonymous No.]

This is crazy for me, i don't usually post in number threads but what i feared became reality, people got tired of gura not streaming, they stopped caring, now idk if this is what gura wanted because that to me just sounds like copium but damn... i wish she would just care a little bit more you know? after pikamee idk anymore, they stop caring and suddenly they graduate...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251551
>don't know what a 3D showcase stream is
I know it's Cover's fault for fucking up their 3D debut, but you're still fucking retarded.
At least the three other girls knew what the format was like, only Gura went for that shitty pre-recorded variety tv show thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251932
92K>>>>>>>87k
keep seething nijinniger

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251673
Explain to me how 10PM is bad for views. It's literally in the middle of primetime.
If anything it would be even better because it would get some JP views rather than none.

She had more views in the past because she wasn't so lazy. She reclined hard through her breaks, time you admitted that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251742
Mogging in...what? Even the dumb numberfags predicated 50-70k with all things considered, like day of the week, order of going, etc. This is a tourist event that depends heavily on novelty and other factors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251964
nijinniger pls get a rope and KYS already

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250158
>>44250451
>>44250402
>>44251846

>IT'S NIJISANJI FAULT SOMEHOW

holyshit they really live rent free on chumpedos heads

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251653
>Not everyone can be present in real time.
Sounds like a skill issue, maybe cumsharts should stop being casuals, underage and normalfag?

[Anonymous No.]

EN as a brand has totally tanked their reputation and goodwill with the Tempus bullshit, not streaming, and just generally disrespecting their fans. Not even a year ago people were talking about how many hundred thousand people would watch the debut, now such numbers are beyond the lazy and male collabing ENs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252004
>Gura comeback stream loses to La+'s comeback stream
>Gura's 3D debut loses to Moona's 3D debut
Keep seething, pedo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251845
It's hilarious because peko and marine were invited to flat out milk vod views and even then she didn't break 600k

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251910
Neither does Ina and she got more than Gura, albeit still lower than the others

[Anonymous No.]

>>44249003
She did one with towa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251171
>92K with Aqua, Marine, Shion, Okayu
>87K towa & Treerat
5K Gap Hmm.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251908
>They went to sleep at 10PM
Anon, are you listening to yourself?
Vast majority of chumkeks don't even have jobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252108
Not surprising. Failures usually need to leech off successful members

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like a lot of chumbuds are chumbuds because she's the most popular EN, in their mind, popular always equals to good
And these kind of people feel especially hurt by number bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252099
nobody's seething about those things except for you
you're literally the ones bringing it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251964
To be fair to Gura the numbers are shit due to a variety of factors
>weekday
>JP debuff despite being intended as a buff
>zero novelty

Her numbers got nerfed from the absence but they're still #1 in EN by a considerable margin.

[Anonymous No.]

it's honestly pathetic, for the only thing she uses her brain is to think: "How can I do this with the least effort possible?"
>let's make Ina handle this boring skit with the two most popular hololive members!
>let's make this SEApeasant handle 80% of the whole event!
>I'll song two meme songs and a Miku song so they keep thinking I give a shit about weeb music!
>I'll seat and try to do math for 11 minutes!
>here's some merch, BUY IT!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252214
>considerable margin
>beat ina by a hair

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252196
So you're saying chumbuds are secretly numberfags but are in constant denial about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252207
>N-nobody's seething except you
Anon, why would I seethe about Gura failing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252017
>Explain many time
>nijinniger: explian me again, i' booooored
Nah better if a reported this thread and shitter like you go back too numbers thread will still seething of gura gold again and keep deflection with everytinh like always.
Nijinnigers = Truly small dog syndrome

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252214
I did have to do a double-take when I saw it was today and not Saturday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252004
Why would Nijiniggers seethe?
Holokeks can't even beat a Niji that is known to this board as "who?"

[Anonymous No.]

I find it funny that she hired Marine and Pekora for the numbers instead of her "oshis" Okayu/Aqua/Shion/etc. yet it backfired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252214
singling out Gura here is absolute idiocy and a clear anti move
her numbers fall completely in line with the other myth members, after the first few showcases they could see the numbers from a mile away

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252214
>JP debuff despite being intended as a buff
How can chumbuds say with a straight that Marine and Pekora are debuffs and Gura's complete lack of doing anything interesting with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252055
Dont pop a vessle there now

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252264
you're not seething about gura because you don't care about her or hololive in general
you're seething because you're an anti who hates your life

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252278
Why do you guys keep bringing nijisanji?

It's obviously Gura fault because she doesn't stream as often as she used to do, barely interact with her fans anymore, now she only stream to announce merch and to avoid memberships being cancelled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252320
I mean the numbers just show this, literally as soon as their part ended her viewership went up by almost 10k.

You could argue about how the skit could have been done better but I think it's more of a simple "EOPs don't want to hear Japanese" and the language barrier can't be removed no matter how well you prepare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252320
most chumbuds are so casual that they likely don't even know who they are

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252320
Maybe Gura should have invited Moona.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252376
>You're seething because you're an anti
Wouldn't an anti be HAPPY she lost? I can't tell if you're projecting, ESL, or both at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251152
>anon exposes the fact he lives with his parents and spends the entire day on a computer

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Lazy shork...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252278
You did zero explaining you ESL retard.
You just kept coping about how magically 8PM EST is the only time when anyone will bother to watch your shark even though 7PM - 11PM is primetime. That it literally the peak viewing hours and putting it at 10PM EST time gets that window for ALL of America. And Canada and south/central america if that would matter.

This whole event was timed to get the most NA audience and you are coping about fucking nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248660
cope chumcuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252099
nobody's seething about it, sis
just you

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252314
Marine is literally the HoloJp member she is closest to tho. People keep spouting Aqua because she is her oshi but completely ignore what Aqua is like

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252457
>Towa Got 100k with moona as guest
>Moona Got 87K with Towa as Guest

Brilliant!

[Anonymous No.]

Chumkeks just stop your embarrassing yourselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252381
>Why do you guys keep bringing Hololive?

>It's obviously Vox fault because he doesn't sing a shit or stream as often as he used to do, barely interact with his fans anymore, now his only stream to announce CUM ASMR and to avoid Bilibili Zhang to get cancelled by them.
fixed

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252317
I got most predictions right (Ina 60k, Kiara 30-40k, Mori 40-50k) but I thought Gura would be 70-80k. I did think she'd be debuffed, just not THAT much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252517
>No you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252314
For real, I can understand Marine but why fucking Pekora? The closest Pekora and Gura were was during Rust arc season 2 and I figured that would be overshadowed by how fucked that ending was for Gura for her relations with other EN members. She has little to connect with Pekora about compared to the likes of Shion, Okayu and Aqua.
Inviting Pekora was out and out number manipulation by Gura and it failed spectacularly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252434
Yeah it could have been done better, gura was asleep for most of it.
Regardless she planned it, she executed it, she got the result she deserved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252471
Yes, they would, which is why you're posting in this thread trying to get (You)s. You're projecting that they're seething about this shit despite the fact that you're the one who brought it up in the first place.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>44252505
>Explain many time
>nijinniger: it doesn't count. I'm gonna shit post again. reeeeeeeeeeee
the eternal loop. Gura will always living rent free in your head.

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>>44252544
And why would they use Moona to shit on Gura? Nijis don't care about ID.

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>>44252475
Anon the average person goes to sleep after 11.
Stop lying to yourself.

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I wonder if she was even watching her own 3D showcase lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Western vtubing is dead. ID is the future. Moona and Kobo are proof.

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>>44252584
The guests were arranged by management.

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>>44252525
Everyone except the retard you're quoting expected Marine and maybe Pekora, and thought Aqua would be a no-show. Just check the threads in the archive.

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>>44252632
Thanks ESL retard, sucks that gura's 3D didn't meet your expectations.

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>>44252647
>And why would they use Gura to shit on Vox? Nijis don't care about Holo.
>They care about: I wanna cum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fixed again

[Anonymous No.]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252706
Gura either had input on that or could have but chose not to.
She made the bed she slept in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Shark is finally dead. We did it sisters. Now we just need to get her to kill herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252584
Pekora invited her to her 3D live.

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>>44252584
Pekora is an unironic numberfag who clearly wanted her for the buffs and Gura simply demanded a repayment. To be clear though the exchange probably wasn't any deeper than
>Hey Gura! Come to my concert!
>Okay, if you come to mine! *proceeds to not bother asking Okayu or Aqua*

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>>44252706
They aren't else they would have gotten Pekora to appear in Moona's 3D instead of Risu who didn't even have her showcase yet or Towa. It's clear the talent can decide who to invite and it's up to them if they accept

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>>44252772
This was before they burned all their fans by not streaming, or collabing with Tempus.

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>>44252618
>Yes, they would
So you're saying I'm both happy she lost and somehow seething she lost at the same time? Anon you're getting desperate

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>>44252544
but no one is talking about Vox, or Nijisanji, chumpedos keep bringing him up.

On nijisanji threads no one talk about hololive most of them don't even watch any hololive streamer.

Chumpedos are surely insane when it come to numbers or anything negative about gura, they keep blaming the nijisanji boogeyman

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>>44252434
Because the skit was awful, and that's on Gura, it's her idea, her showcase. She got SS tier guest, and she shat the bed with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252625
NijiEN had a 3D first appearance buff

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why are chumbuds making excuses, I swear they deny being numberfags gura is the ones with big numbers so she usually is first in everything but as soon as she isn't they start making excuses, get real guys gura doesn't give a shit anymore and it shows, for anyone that want to see a vtuber who is burned out and wants out just watch gura play jump king and you would know what i mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252706
>why thing?
>management did it

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
HoloEN is dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251964
When you achieve success, sometimes you just dont know what else to do. You get to the top of the mountain, you know you have the talent, and you are loaded now, sometimes you just wanna rest, develop new interests and move on.

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>>44252839
Yes, you're seething about your life which is why you're happy when others "fail". Congrats on finally achieving an ounce of self-awareness.

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>>44252772
living in the past is the fools way of living

[Anonymous No.]

>80 IPs
>200 posts

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“Queen of vtubers”
Kek, get shit on chumpedos

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252798
You know we're not responsible for the viewer schedules right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252962
Pretty on par with the usual catalog thread

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>>44252883
If gura does not have numbers she does not have anything

[Anonymous No.]

she will keep declining, her stream time will be even lower after holofes. We'll finally see her hit 4 digits by the end of the year, although she deserves to be a 3 view at best

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>>44248406
Remember bros you can make threads shitting on gura all you want and the mods don't care, but if you point out that vox got killed by pippa the niji mod will delete it

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>>44248678
Drama power. Ths is the real reason why haters are groomed and released into the wild.

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>>44250695
It seems the pick rabbit is under the mage's sphere of influence.
No shit good things are happening to her.
I would stop your shizoposting, unless you want to see your oshi suffer.

[Anonymous No.]

Why did the Pippa mogging Vox thread get deleted while this is still up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252935
If someone is happy, by definition they can't be seething. They are opposite emotions, AI-chama

[Anonymous No.]

>claiming shork requires very specific environmental conditions in order to get meaningful viewership compared to her far smaller colleagues
what's next guys, guwa needs the planets in our solar system to align to get 10k extra viewers?

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>>44252962
That's more than 1/3 ratio, what the fuck are you implying?

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>>44253096
>people can't do things to make themselves feel better about their unhappiness

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>>44253087
that was in november, don't think anything's going to happen to her

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>>44248678
chumbuds in shambles

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>>44253023
>Gets BTFO
>Deflects to Nijis
Now show us how Kiara is doing

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>>44252536

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>>44253023
>NOOO BUT NIJISANJI
>GURA CAN'T DO BAD

Kill yourself company drone and pedophile

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>>44248406
Well one was actually a first time 3d showcase which is sort of the point, gura’s was just a formality because she had done plenty of 3d streams including 2 concerts on her channel and a few concert appearances on the JP side

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>>44253252
He said to stop, not do it harder

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>>44248445
Not really… moona’s was actually a first time showcase where as gura’s stream was more of a formality because she did plenty of 3d streams before

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>>44253273
They both had 3D in the past

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>>44249179
hot

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>>44253119
nah she is just paying the price of not streaming for months, viewers notice hard work, many of the chumbuds were left on their own and looked for alternatives, many moved on to /jidf/ after their hopes for Rindo to become a thing disappeared, what is she doing now, only members stream every once 2 weeks? I guess she just plans to coast the rest of her career from now on

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>>44253273
Chumbud... You have to stop embarassing yourself like this...

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>>44253274
Nijiseethe

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>>44253087
>Still leeching Hololive
Leeching cockroach

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>>44248406
Moona fans aren't American deadsubs gained from the covid buff like gura. Despite of what you're trying to imply the fact the deadsubs aren't there anymore to catch live streams and gura still pulling up strong numbers speak by itself. Not sure if this warranted a thread.

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Its a amazing how far Holo EN has tanked. I never would of imagine this two years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>44253119
Most assblasted fanbase in holoen that's for sure

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>>44252207
>>44253195
>Finds out he's retarded
>Moves goalpost
Many such cases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44253398
Chumpedo seethe

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>>44248406
>Gura didn't even crack 100k

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252962
kys newfag/redditnigger

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>>44253433
literally not an argument
the points still stand that it was moona's first dedicated 3D showcase vs gura who's had her own 3D live already
actually the entire argument is fucking stupid, but I'm entertaining it just for fun since we knew what the numbers were generally gonna look like after seeing what the first few myth 3D showcase numbers looked like

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>>44250695
You forgot:
>owns the bannedvtmemes which is nothing more than a phase connect shill account pretending to be le funny /vt/ memes, but those memes somehow never fucking point and laugh at pippa or panko

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>>44248406
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>44253646
Moona already streamed bunch of times prior in 3D retard, that's the entire point

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Reminder that Coco debuted her 3D model with less than 900k subscribers and still hit 120k viewers, and when hololive was way smaller than the current one.

Gura has no excuse whatsoever, she is just declining and lazy, the fact that a ID beat her and all of EN, is a sign that they aren't as popular as they used to be.

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>>44253646
no people were predicting 80k for gura
not barely above ina

[Anonymous No.]

ID is the best Holo branch per capita

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>>44253727
that's not a 3D showcase
3D showcase means having the floor focused on you to do whatever you want for about an hour, not replacing your 2D avatar with a 3D one for a zatsu, or coming out to sing a song during a fes and disappearing right after

[Anonymous No.]

you know what number is truly pathetic? 9 streams in 4 months lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Boobs > Loli for 3D live
Don't worry guys Kronii will save EN, her 3D debut will break 169k CCV

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>>44253646
Anon I made two points: one was about Gura losing to Moona, the other about Gura losing to Laplus. I'll be nice and grant you the Moona vs Gura thing. So, what's the argument about her losing to Laplus?

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>>44253767
70k was the low end of the estimates I saw

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>>44248406
nothing against moona. just dispelling the idea that ccv in a bad EN time slot on a thursday means anything. inb4 "b-but it was a bunch of bots!" or "m-most of those people only watched for 2 seconds."

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>>44253893
Fr fr no cap lmaoooo

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>>44248406
Carried by model and algorithm "luck" vs actual talent

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>>44253767
that's not what I saw, and that's a stupid assessment considering ina had a going first buff which is apparent by looking at kiara and mori's numbers, plus the fact that gura is the only one whose is a weekday for JPs as well

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>>44253893
kek
no wonder most of her 4M left in droves

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>>44253875
Is that really the cope you wanna die on? Do you really think the average fan thinks "Oh an incredibly rare 3D stream, I won't watch it because I've already seen the model before". As if some other members don't get even higher numbers in their next 3D streams.

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>>44253744
I don't think most people here even watched Coco when she was live, or worse, no more tatsunokos around in this day and age.

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>>44249359
I hope it will motivate and make her realize she can't just take her fans for granted, but you're probably right.

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You know what is really sad that only less than 1.5% of her subscribers even watched her 3D

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>>44253916
Why the fuck would I care about who's "losing" to who? The whole point of my posts is to point out how fucking stupid all of you are for doing this and how shitty your methodology is.

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>>44248406
Moona's was on weekend, Gura's was on a fucking Thursday, that's my copium

[Anonymous No.]

Another Holo vs Holo tribalism
Nijinigger bigW today

[Anonymous No.]

>>44254182
I was in that 1.5% and I regret it. One hour less of sleep for that shit

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>>44254130
yes, that's how tourists work
this is obvious from the fact that her regular streams get a fraction of gura's
tourist events are decided by tourist factors

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>>44254257
yeah if i knew it was gonna be all prerecorded i wouldnt have bothered and just watched the vod after
what a letdown

[Anonymous No.]

>>44254202
You literally said "not an argument," implying you wanted a discussion. Now suddenly you "don't care" despite responding to me directly to begin with

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>>44250336
Well yeah, because they dont have a s.o. to spend it on

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all these copes just makes gura seem less and less special, and just a run of the mill with bloated subs. Can't believe that's the path chumbuds are choosing

[Anonymous No.]

>>44254182
see
>>44253948
your math seems to be a little off there and its only been 13 hours since it went up. lets wait 5 months then see where its at compared to moonas 800k

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>>44254303
And Gura's showcase is not a tourist event because?

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>>44254335
my argument was a point about the dumb way in which the two things were compared
I'm not the dumb anti trying to bring random numbers out of nowhere and shitpost about them

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>>44253252
>gura streaming at all
idc what channel she's streaming on. collabbing with homos is still inifinitely better than going so quiet that people think you're graduating.

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>>44254376
she was never special by any means. Nowadays she's not even a mediocre vtuber, because mediocre vtubers at least stream

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>>44254472
It is a tourist event, which is why it was subjected to tourist factors like novelty
basically everything that makes people interested in something other than just the talent itself

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>>44248678
HAHAHAHAH!

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>>44249179
Uweeeee..

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>>44248406
ADHD took over and her zoomers moved on

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>>44254546
All of your "points" were about Moona and Gura and none about Gura's comeback vs Laplus' comeback. Besides, anon, we both know you shitpost about numbers when it's about a streamer you don't like. Everyone here does

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>>44248406
4M dead subs

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>>44254669
I kind of think there was something special about her in 2020 and 2021, the last year plus has really kind of showcased how little effort she's willing to put out anymore .
She went from being a fun streamer with reasonably okay choices in video games, having some funny moments with the rest of myth and council, to producing the bare minimum amount of content required for her contract.
I don't know if it's burnout or just laziness, but I'm not exactly surprised that someone who works harder at what she does gets more views than somebody who hasn't streamed in the past 2 weeks outside of shilling her new merch.

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>>44248406
Her singing was absolutely awful too, even though the choice of music was great for once. Why the fuck were cumpedos boasting about her singing skills? She's no better than Mel or Roboco for instance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250695
Based Pippa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248678
How the mighty have fallen

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>>44254866
don't group me with numberfags

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>>44254673
So
>hyped 3D relay
>Fucking Pekora and Marine
>it's fucking Gura
Is beaten by Moona because she didn't use her already shown 3D as much as Gura?
Don't choke on that cope anon, the big hitters get bigger numbers with every event they do, not actively regress more every time

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>>44248678
>>44248406
Does nobody here feel bad for her?

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>>44254673
>novelty
Other vtubers have had multiple 3D and dozens of guest appearances, still don't see their 3d number dropping though.

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>>44249708
You did the same thing with Pekora; whenever She BTFO'd your lazy shark, you would bring up that useless VOD views metric that is so easy to cheat with. Reminder that Pekora BTFOs on a daily basis gura with twice less subs than the latter, and Moona has 4 times less subs than Gura. Her not being able to beat the indog is just showing how irrelevant she actually is.

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>>44254221
It’s not even copious, that’s a fact. Also Gura hardly at all advertised her showcase outside of membership so even if people wanted to plan for it they couldn’t because of work

Management are the biggest fucks though, it’s odd they put every other myth for a weekend but gura on a Thursday. Like no matter how you look at it that’s suspiciously weird.

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>>44255075
in this thread?
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>44254376
she was special for having big numbers so if she can't produce big numbers, she isn't special in their eyes either

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255071
to claim something as a buff it actually has to be a buff, which didn't happen with pekomari, possibly because the timeslot was garbage for JoPs (noon on a friday), numbers actually increased more after the segment

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250695
seething KFP

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255075
For Moona? yeah it sucks her incline is being used as a prop argument in gura's laziness

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255075
does she gives a fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255134
This weekend is packed, there is still the myth group 3d and miko's birthday live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255075
why do i feel bad for a fucking millionare when im wagie bashing my head against a wall everytime i go work

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>>44255221
>Pekora and Marine aren't buffs because... THEY JUST AREN'T OK?
Very funny how no one blames Ina or Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255134
how is friday not a weekend? sorry if you live in a shitty country where it is al'shabbad or something.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is it impossible for chumcucks to admit their oshi is washed up trash?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255345
What the fuck did Ina do, lmao. I actualy felt bad for her presenting that boring section.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255345
what the fuck do you mean 'because they just arent ok', you can literally look at the live viewer graph

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252292
Ngo SEEEEEEEEGGGGGSSS! The true cunny, she BTFOs the lazy shark anyday!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255404
So why do you think they were the reason instead of Ina or Gura's terrible performance with them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248671
What a waste of numberbait. Two stellar guesses and couldn't even sing one song together.

[Anonymous No.]

>chumkeks seething so hard they’re bringing this thread to bump limit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44253199
>that was in november
>the print clearly shows March 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255075
Why in the world would I feel bad for Gawr fucking Gura, a millionaire Vtuber who's having the time of her life in Japan. I'm sure she'll be just fine, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255509
>who's having the time of her life in Japan
But her severe anxiety...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251846
Look at the numbers thread retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Go back to your containment thread /#/fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255454
I'm not saying whose fault it is, I'm just saying the numbers didn't go up and it didn't appear to really buff anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255535
I'm positive she'll find a way to cope with it. Everyone with it does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255629
as opposed to her solo segments

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255535
her anxiety triggers whenever she has to stream, she must be drowning on gaijin cock right

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255658
when has a vtuber ever found a way to cope with anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255798
Gaijin means foreigner in Japanese anon. Specifically from within Japan.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>44255134
>Management are the biggest fucks though, it’s odd they put every other myth for a weekend but gura on a Thursday. Like no matter how you look at it that’s suspiciously weird.
Gura isn't that concerned with numbers but after these long radio silent health breaks it does seem like Cover is angry with her. There was no good reason to put her 3D debut on a weekday. If they wanted they could have put it on the weekend and moved the group collab to a later date.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44256116
Karma is a bitch

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>>44250695
Where is the drama in that pic? Ive seen the kekihime asuka wrestling thing from forever ago, assuming that is what she referenced in the marshmallow tweet? But what of it? The kfp people attacked her just for mentioning that clip exists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248678
wut?

[Anonymous No.]

>already hit bump limit
Lol chummies just cant help to mald all day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44256184
The only question is why 2 lives were paired together when they don't reference each other at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44256116
Is this a "how the turntables moment" or not, it doesn't exactly feel like anyone won anything here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255963
I know

[Anonymous No.]

>>44256184
What's your new cope going to be when Ame mogs her in CCV too chumsis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44256255
yeah, they took it as a dox, which i would've said is a stretch... but then she made the kfc joke showing she knew exactly what she was doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255410
was this the one who literally saved a dead park by becoming its figure girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44256855
Please don't falseflag.
Teamates know that isn't going to happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>44257045
Yeah, that's her. That's also how I found out about her. Heard she is good, so I plan to check her out at some point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44256855
>>44257125
just make chummates already

[Anonymous No.]

>post reaches bump limit
>suddenly a bunch of dead threads are getting replies
Assblasted chumbie bumping every thread in the catalog just to get rid of this one LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>44257009
Didnt the kfp tweet come later after the fans came after her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44257558
They're desperate to hide the truth but don't realize /vt/ never forgets KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
mass EN graduation to be expected next year

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
IDchads, I kneel. I'm glad someone put cumbuds in their place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248406
Which english speaking vtuber can bring the gaijin back into the fold?

[Anonymous No.]

i just accept the fact that moona 3d were more interesting than gura 3d for hololives audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44257674
yeah. that's why i started off by thinking it was a stretch, but she was way too ready for a fight, even by pippa standards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44257558
I don't know how your schizo anti thinking works, explain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44258063
Just give Fauna's autism and work ethic to someone with a more normal voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44256116
LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>44256116
No matter how much you try to pit JP and EN against each other Pekora and Marine literally just opened and hosted a segment with Gura during her 3D showcase, now go back to whatever non-holo or other seething part of the internet you came from

[Anonymous No.]

Schizos, all of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44258833
>Pekora and Marine
*their manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250376
Says the shitposter who calls Moona a leech.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44259323
if some of the JPs liked gura any more I would be afraid for gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>44256533
Damn, Kiwawa keeps on winning, even if this was a shitty timeslot for EU.
Goes to show that caring for your fanbase is good in the long run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44251038
Wow, I can't believe they actually created 4 Guras.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248660
>baaawwwwwww no, not the sharkerino!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44248671
Dumb pegor should've join moona in her 3D if she want number