WELL ANONS?!?!

[Anonymous No.]

Just got this ad on Youtube.
>WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
What will they be doing together?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423164
sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423164
sex with connor

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423164
Desperately focusing on the game to make sure Calli doesn't say anything about Mousey's condition because that will be so much spaghetti

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082

this is illegal you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423164
funeral service

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
>The last collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423164
It's all a ruse for Mori to claim Mousey's soul in front of an audience. It's her time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423242
>"Oh hey Mousey
>"I've been wanting to collab with you for uh...really long time, but i know you don't have much time"
>"FREE TIME,. I MEANT FREE TIME,. NOT LIKE TIME LEFT TO LIVE"
>"GUH, I'm so stupid, i feel like i'm in a giant bubble!"
>*Calliope Mori has left the call*

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423329
I don't even think this is is an exaggeration of what could potentially happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423329
Top fucking lel

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423329
would be funny if the woke mob on twitter cancels her for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423238
She can't though, unless the idea is for Mouse to experience it vicariously through watching.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you guys feel it too?
The final yab is approaching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
Why this? Calli is lame and mouse is boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423329
>collab ends
>"Thanks so much for coming Calli! I hope you'll come again!"
>"Oh don't worry, I'll be back for you soon."
>...
>"I-I MEAN TO PLAY WITH YOU NOT--GUH, I'M SO STUPID"
>Calliope Mori has left the call

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423164
Phogs
Super Bunny Man
Clubhouse 51

>>4423329
Fucking kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423437
seethe more veibae

[Anonymous No.]

Odd that /voms/ isn't having a mental breakdown over Mousey/Pika collab being confirmed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423329
>I'm sorry for acting like such a crackhead, sometimes I feel like I need to go outside and take a breather. You know what I mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423397
They already tried that with her old as twitter posts of her using nigga but it didn't work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423418
Could you describe it to me, ogeychama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423524
Mousey (Still taking it in good humor): No, I don't
Cali:...OH MY GOD! WAIT! LISTEN! NOOOO!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423329
TOP FUCKING JEJ

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423329
>"lmao Calli that's so funny I'm literally dying rn"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423548
Which is weird because she still does the same shit on the old twitter handle. Actually weird isn't the right word for it because it shouldn't make a fucking difference either way. I don't pretend to understand how pitchfork mobs work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423515
1) Pika fans are not as retarded as holo
2) PIka has less fans here
3) Mouse is fine
1&2 are related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423515
Pikamee collabs with everybody. She's already collabed with Artemis. Why would Vshojo be the line she can't cross? I mean unless it was Nyanners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423664
>Mouse is fine
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423515
Voms are basically indies and they can do whatever they want.
Pikamee already had collabs with everyone.
Pikamee is fun and doesn't ruin things for everyone, having her in a collab can only make things better.

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>>4423692
Why would Nyanners be an issue?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423741
Nyanners unironically had sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423741
reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423741
Or Veibae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423741
Let's just say Pikamee and Iofi publicly had a conversation about something Nyanners is *very* vocal about

[Anonymous No.]

grim reaper is coming to claim her soul...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423741
>Why would Nyanners be an issue?
>>4423791
>Or Veibae.
IMAGINE NOT KNOWING

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
In the heavens, working more miracles such as this. Also punishing the wicked, like Veibae and Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423741
>Why would Nyanners be an issue?
>>4423741
>Or Veibae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423765
Nah she's definitely the kind to only have sex ironically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423741
Don't think Pikamee would care but, Nyanners would take a hit with her fanbase if the collab happened.

[Anonymous No.]

I am torn about the rrat she is doing this to rescue mouse or destroy her. which would it be?
either way, she needs to hurry before the connor irl collab, which is the end of the line for mousey when connor begs enough that she gives in to sex and dies from it as she claimed would happen...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423867
Is her fanbase not aware that one of Nyanners vshojo friends is a lolicon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423867
>Nyanners would take a hit with her fanbase
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423909
God I wish I was Connor so I could fuck mousey to death

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423620
Is Mousey actually on board with gallows humor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423921
No and for the love of god don't tell them lol. Or do. Get the Vshojo split over with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
desu Coco would’ve been a better partner than Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423796
>A Japanese and Indonesian girl understand it's just a genre
>SJW American thinks it's nothing short of the apacolypse
>Still plays Nekopara
Pinkcat's brain is a mystery

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423909
>Connor might actually fuck a vtuber to death
He needs to be stopped, this is getting out of hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423620
>>4423329

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423981
I mean he'll end up in spic prison for it, so it's not like he'd survive either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423791
>>4423741
Where the fuck do you people come from to ask stupid shit like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423909
>>4423981
Tbh being fucked to death is a not a bad way to go, especially for Mouse.
And I think Mouse will beg it, not Connor.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really keep up with vshoujo but I always got the impression people more or less liked mouse (at least, relatively speaking)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423942
Eh, I guess it's akin to flogging a dead horse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424036
People do, but they're still convinced that even if it's a Mouse collab, Hololve-Vshojo is the final yab, like anything will significantly change.

[Anonymous No.]

https://files.catbox.moe/yif1bp.mp4
The Transcript
"I actually... I hate that. Like, that side of Hololive that roleplays. Because it like, when you know, about all like the uhm... background stuff, that they have to do just to be in Hololive and how they have to be roleplaying it's like spooky. Hololive personalities don't own their model. They don't have any decision making when it comes to how they look like. They don't own their YouTube or their social media. If they get fired, they lose everything. Yeah, it's called graduation, it's so fucked up, dude! Fuck that shit! You get graduation into homelessness that's so fucked! [reads comment: They promote their talents as idols.] Yeah, fuck, then they get doxed and shit. I dunno I hate it. I like, I like the uh, streamers, I think. I don't know, I don't know like what I like. I like the roleplay but the whole idol culture is so messed up. It's hard for me to watch Hololive a little bit. It feels really scripted, no? Yeah I think, I think that they just have to stay in roleplay. They literally support a terrible company. After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it, and the way that they're treated... Keep defending it dude."

-Veibae

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424036
People only have problem with Vei because she shittalked Cover and with Nyanners because she betrayed lolis.
Others are more or less fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424036
She's getting a little thirsty for collabs, but otherwise she's fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424026
hi connor, here is an offer for you, I let you do this and then you have to leave holo's alone forever. ok? we will be square.
and /vt/ will vouch for you in the trial of mouse, I promise

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423942
So long as there's no actual malice behind it she probably wouldn't mind and would laugh off a faux pas like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424066
>Hololive personalities don't own their model. They don't have any decision making when it comes to how they look like. They don't own their YouTube or their social media. If they get fired, they lose everything. Yeah, it's called graduation, it's so fucked up, dude!
True though.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm glad I helped gatekeep Vei away from Kiara so mori could win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423942
I heard she said that that type of humor was like a breath of fresh air for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424093
>Needing to barter with a beta brit who had to run away to Nipponland to be considered interesting
M-chan kicked him out of HoloID, and before that JENMa and ENMa kept him well away from HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
>Collabing with literal whores
Why Cover is so retarded lately?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424077
Not really.
Vei is absolute gutter trash regardless of that clip.
Literally every single stream of hers is nothing but "COCKS COCKS CUM SEX PUSSY CUMMMMM".
She has zero talent. She's basically just Amouranth with an anime model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424103
I mean a lot of stuff she says is true but isn't Hololive-specific at all, but she's painting it as just Cover problems and not a bunch of things Cover does as bad if not better than most other Vtuber companies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424103
as if the peole who work under Cover don't know that

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424062
Because they're opposites. Vshojo are the unashamed corporate whoredom capitalizing on the trend, like hopping on onlyfans. Hololive are the ones trying to keep things at least somewhat veiled and professional.
Hololives 2 most lewd and degen girls, matsuri and marine, are tame compared to basically every vshojo. It's seen as american garbage corrupting hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424093
Dont worry, Connor will touch them only after he forces them to graduate so they wont be part of Holo anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424026
God can you imagine how wild she'd be when she finally gets to release all that pent up sexual frustration from years of not so much as being able to touch another person, she'd drain you completely dry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424066
>attempts to collab despite saying this
Kek, she’s another bimbo coping with not being let in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424077
As much as I don't want a Nyanners or Vei collab, I'd take those two any day of the week over a Hime collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424111
>win
Congratulations! Your prize is STDs!

>>4424121
She doesn't get those often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424066
>Hololive personalities don't own their model. They don't have any decision making when it comes to how they look like. They don't own their YouTube or their social media. If they get fired, they lose everything. Yeah, it's called graduation, it's so fucked up, dude!
1) Hololive made the artwork, modelling and rigging through various talents, so why is this an issue?
2) The talent have plenty of say in how to alter and tweak their Avatar's design (See: EN's new outfits)
3) The social media shit is akin to complaining you don't get to keep your email address when you quit a call center. Anyone with 2 braincells knows how to connect via "roommate's" accounts

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424167
You might die from being drained, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424154
So, coco or marine or kiaru.
Got it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424208
So you don't know anything about Hololive and think being "crass" or "degenerate" for 5% of your streams vs 95% is comparable.
Got it.

Go kill yourself you shojo tourist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424066
>Get turned down because you're a bitter whore
>Get mad


Sad!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424111
>mori could win
Cool, can't wait for our resident rapper to get mobbed by Vshojo collab requests

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424208
You have never watched any of those streamers outside of clips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424179
>Hime
She'd need to stream first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424208
t. clipfaggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424237
So did you with Vei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424208
>look ma, I posted it again

[Anonymous No.]

I guess, it's time to gatekeep again.
There must be a lot of dirt on Mouse since she is a part of VShojo, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423164
Being autistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424263
>y-you too
Wrong anon, anon.

>>4424277
She's pretty unassailable unless you could somehow prove she isn't a turbocripple, which she is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424231
>"You've clearly only watched clips of those Hololive girls if you think there's any comparison in crassness"
>Has clearly only watched Vshojo clips

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424263
>So did you with Vei.
Count the number of times she mentions something sexual in a single hour of one of her streams, then report back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424078
She gets a pass for being thirsty, she can't exactly go outside and meet people so collabs are a big deal for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423397
I wonder which Holo will be the first to be cancel cultured

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424342
The difference is that those moments are the exception for someone like Marine compared to her overall stream time.
With Vei they are what makes up over 90% of her stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424277
the connor shit would make me want to gatekeep if it were anyone else, but shes literally dying... let her have her make-a-wish....

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424277
>a lot of dirt on Mouse
She's as clean as her sterilized room

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Vshojofag keep trying to ruin it for mouse?
Does they hate her that much for being better than Vei and pink cat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424277
Nah, Mouse is fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424198
>Might die along with Mousey as we both fuck into blissful oblivion
I would definitely take that risk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424371
Pretty sure it's just Veibae being a jealous bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424377
"fine" is a stretch. She's not as abysmal as Nyanners, Vei, Zen or Hime but her content is still pretty garbo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424366
Admittedly Vei is 100% like that. But Mousey, Silver, etc, are okay. As frequently a lewd/substance ratio as Marine

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423418
The final todome. The finishing blow. The final yab. If during the collab mousy doesn't die from her condition then Callie's cringe levels will definitely do the trick. Is this the end bro's?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424377
Mouse might be fine by herself, but you do realize that she will open the gate for Connor and other VWhores, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
I'm fine with it, Mouse is ok.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424362
Gura because it isn't about being virtuous, it's about drawing the most attention
If they wanted REAL vindication, probably Marine for being Marine, Kiara for being a "traitor" aka "you didn't give us attention/money/shoutouts as we did nothing", Mori for "encouraging the male driven rap genre which degrades females"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424371
Imposter from Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424277
You're gonna have a much tougher time trying to get everyone to side against the chronically ill girl than with Vei.

[Anonymous No.]

As I said before, don't go full retard with Mouse. She's the opposite of a grifter, she will never abandon her friends unless something REALLY bad happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424425
Pretty sure Vei already gatekept herself with >>4424066

[Anonymous No.]

These faggots simping like huge cucks for mouse just because her condition makes them excuse away the rest of her degeneracy. She's not "fine" or "ok". You're just saviorfagging. Compare her to literally any holo. Being on top of a pile of shit doesn't magically make you good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424407
She's incredibly boring

[Anonymous No.]

https://files.catbox.moe/6lbq01.mp4


REMINDER

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
>Mori chooses the correct vshoujo girl and is allowed a collab
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424476
To a fault. Ifwhen Melody and Nyanners fall out and split Vshojo, she's gonna try and stay friends with them both and it's going to be rough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424476
Mouse is a good friend, unlike certain people that I'm pretty sure will dump Vshojo if anything starts going badly for them or they find a bigger crowd to latch onto.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424501
Literally watch any stream of hers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424425
>open the gate for Connor
Nigga Mori already collab in person with Connor. That ship has sailed.

[Anonymous No.]

If she's really dying then I will allow some collabs with her and Hololive, but only her she shouldn't bring any other vshitjos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424534
>If
you need to go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424442
They tried to cancel Marine and Matsuri at the peak of the EN growth. They all failed because the people that are fans of Hololive are long time unironic anime fans that know and understand that they have a different culture over in Japan and that pedophilia itself is prosecuted outside of fictional environments.

Didn't people try to cancel Mori and Miko too for the nigga shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424416
Calli can finally live up to her reaper persona

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424425
>she will open the gate for Connor
If it didn't work last time why would it work now.
Cover is literally blocking TT from trying to get Mori for second time as a guest.

[Anonymous No.]

JFC this thread is full of vwhores apologists. This collab is their last chance to leech from Hololive, so these faggots falseflag as Holo fans and are trying to convince everyone that their twitch thot did nuffing wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424501
Please calm down Vei, Mouse still think of u as a friends, you don't need the collab with the chicken anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424515
Ah, a shining example of wholesome.
>No, I didn’t eat it.. I poked it.
Only the dead can know peace from this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424556
I have. She swears like a sailor every other word and regularly makes sex jokes. The rare moments where she breaks down and talks about her condition don't change that. She probably IS the least bad vshojo. But she is definitely not a fit for a hololive collab. Not even remotely. Associating with vshojo is just a terrible idea in general because it will attract twitch kiddies and niggers. If you think redditors were bad just wait and see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424501
>>4424624
Vei, pls. Stop being jealous and be happy for your friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424277
She's dying of super aids anon, let her have her thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424501
Anon, i can be sure that she isn't going to be like that in the collab because she understands the hololive culture and is fan of Hololive and Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424599
sauce?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424517
>I should really stop browsing 4chan but
Don't forget, you're here forever.

[Anonymous No.]

A reminderthat Mouse is membered to Mori and follows Aruran.

[Anonymous No.]

The NijiENs (sans the twitchmeme fish) seem much better fits for collabs than any of these whores
If I had to pick I'd definitely pick Pomu or someone like Pikamee first

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424724
Hi NijiENMa.

[Anonymous No.]

looking forward to the collab!
>>4424624
>you can't be a Holo fan without thinking all of vshojo are whores
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

But is it only me to think that actually Mori will feel comfortable with and be getting along with her than any other Holo members?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424724
NijiEN is ngmi, too small for Vshojo or Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424517
maybe tell your friends to stop being a two faced whore who ruins vtubing with your western degeneracy first. But it's probably impossible given to the fact that they're all western whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424517
Hey pink cat, off yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424778
See >>4423329. She may like her but her crppling autism will become the new 66 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424782
Gura collabed with Anya. Size doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424785
You will never be Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424724
No the nijiENs don't seem good, either. Pikamee is a given because she's just discount hololive already and can collab with either jp or en because she speaks both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424778
I can’t trust her not to spaghetti in every situation, except in the Hunters collab, which she prepared for way in advance.

>>4424804
Based Nyannigger destroyer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424785
She's the biggest two-faced whore, hell most of the rest are just vulgar sluts instead of being twofaced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424778
>>4424809
That said, I also hope she can pull a Shitpost Review Moona and make this great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424517
>When people say mean things about my friends
But not about yourself? What is she a masochist, does she enjoy seeing people call her a hypocrite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424785
As if the Japanese audience aren't degenerates themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424870
Vei, pls. Stop making Nyanners to be more of a two-faced bitch than you. She's just a SJW grifter.

[Anonymous No.]

A legendary collab between a dying mouse and the undead. Perfect match.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424879
Mouse WILL turn Mori into a moeblob.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424928
>undead
Didn't know she was gonna collab with Ollie.

[Anonymous No.]

Mousey is aware of the responsibility and rules that comes with collabing with Hololive, I'm fine with her. Not sure about the others but no for sure to Veibae and Gigguk's wife

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't you just let turbo autism Mori and latinx Coco collab? We will get a trashy as fuck collab and the normalfags vShojos will cringe so fucking hard they will decide that the numbers aren't worth it to put up with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424879
Do we know what kind of collab it is gonna be? Gaming or zatsudan?

[Anonymous No.]

A "Libera Me from Hell" DUET, ONEGAI

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423515
Because Pikamee isn't Hololive, she collabs with basically everyone. Holo fans wouldn't have complained if their first collabs were with Pikamee, in fact some wanted that, rather than diving into the shitshow that is vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424277
Mouse is the least problematic out of them all and people give her a pass because of the disease. Maybe the only vshitshow who could get away with a HoloEN collab without much drama or serious attempts to stop it from happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425020
>she collabs with basically everyone
This is Mouse too for western indies. She recently discovered Nina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424819
you will never be british

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424724
>>4424782
Give it a few months and NijiEN will collab with HoloEN. Far too early to think about that right now. Cover at least can trust Nijis, more than they can the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425117
you will never be puerto rican

[Anonymous No.]

Will be hard carried by Mouse for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424778
Option 1, Mousey is nervous as fuck so it is on Mori to carry the collab and put Mousey at rest. This will probably (only) work if they don't have a plain game collab and Mori gets the space to do her thing.
Option 2, they live through it while playing a game. Deadbeats will complain about how dead Mori has been through the whole collab, probably because they are playing something Mousey picked on the misguided notion that it would be in the comfort zone that is her room and able to carry it.
Option 3, Mori and Mousey find something to immediately click with one another and have a kino collab talking about music or their own personal lives as if they'd always been friends. Once again, she will get away with it and integrate Mousey into her extended universe.
Option 4, lethal yab (not necessarily to or by mousey) ending the stream, or 66 minutes. No more VHolo collabs ever again. Neither one takes it personal and they will continue to talk in private as Mousey successfully outlives the rrats, but no one here will outlive the timeloops.
I'll take anything but please don't put ya boy through an emotional rollercoaster T2 again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425142
I hope it never happens

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425117
Thank God

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423717
>Voms are basically indies and they can do whatever they want.

[Anonymous No.]

mouse is good

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425237
Anon, no one knows what happened there. Rrats and speculation can only do so much, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425214
>Not wanting Elira and Ame to chat it up
>Not wanting Pomu and Gura to no brain minecraft
>Not wanting Finana to drive Kiara to madness
What's wrong with you friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425185
Option 1 has Mouse in Mori's position and visa-versa.

[Anonymous No.]

People Cover needs to graduate if it does not want to become Vshojo 2.0:
- Coco
- Kiara
- Polka
- Calli
This is that needs to be said about this topic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425185
>it is on Mori to carry the collab and put Mousey to rest.
That's how I read it, god dammit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423515
>Mouse is going to use her sharp-teeth model so she can be twinning with Pikamee
That's really cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424920
Oh please. Even the JP audience were disgusted when they saw that Veibitch clip. You have to get it through your thick head that when Veibitch was critising hololive, she also inadvertently ended up critising the entire vtuber industry, nijisanji included. That vwhore being blacklisted is actually a big deal anon-sama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425263
We know she got fired faggot. We don't know what for but we do know that the Voms girls can't do whatever they want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425271
>Coco top of the list
Blistering bug appendages typed this post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424066
but where’s the lie? aside from the fact they obviously have input on their models but not a final say. and obviously it’s not just cover, but idol culture in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425267
>Pomu somehow outwitting Gura in a PVP game

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425296
The only thing wrong with the clip is Vei pretending to have insider information and making shit up about talking to ex-holos. No one really cares if an indy has a poor opinion of agencies.

[Anonymous No.]

Who the fuck designed that ad? It looks like shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423418
>The final yab is approaching.
1. Furry Fubuki
2. HoloEN being desperate and paying for ads for a Vshojo collab of all things
3. NijiEN incline

Its not looking good

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425348
>After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it, and the way that they're treated
Here is the lie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425296
That definitely left a bad image for vshojo. If only she apologized instead of doubling down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425303
If you do drugs in Japan you automatically are removed from any sort of job. VOMs are still treated as indies. They keep their revenue, don't share it with a company, have no managers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425155
you will never be israeli

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>>4425364
Gura might be merely pretending to be retarded but she wont drop the act.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425348
Who is she sourcing for information? Chris? A**ia? Some reject, much like herself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424066
>I actually... I hate that. Like, that side of Hololive that roleplays. Because it like, when you know, about all like the uhm... background stuff, that they have to do just to be in Hololive and how they have to be roleplaying it's like spooky.
Opinion/Rrat
>Hololive personalities don't own their model.
True criticism
>They don't have any decision making when it comes to how they look like.
Pure Rrat
>They don't own their YouTube or their social media.
Opinion/Rrat
>If they get fired, they lose everything. Yeah, it's called graduation, it's so fucked up, dude! Fuck that shit! You get graduation into homelessness that's so fucked!
Pure fuckin rrat
>[reads comment: They promote their talents as idols.] Yeah, fuck, then they get doxed and shit.
Opinion/Rrat
>I dunno I hate it. I like, I like the uh, streamers, I think. I don't know, I don't know like what I like. I like the roleplay but the whole idol culture is so messed up
Pure Opinion
>It's hard for me to watch Hololive a little bit. It feels really scripted, no? Yeah I think, I think that they just have to stay in roleplay.
Rrat/Opinion
>They literally support a terrible company.
Pure Rrat
>After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it, and the way that they're treated... Keep defending it dude.

Pure Rrat. Also, what did she mean by this?
It's amazing how Vei doubled down on this and vshojofags think it was all, "Valid". She browsed 4chan for ultra spicy rrats and believed it all hook line and sinker. It reads like all other rrats on this board. A single truth mixed in with a whole lot of bullshit. It worked too because normalfags actually believe this shit. Still can't believe people say 4chan has no sway when streamers like Veibae exist.
Rrat to criticism ratio is 8:1. Like a true /vt/ard.

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>>4425348
Mainly that she blamed Hololive for upd8 retardation. Also
>After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it

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>>4425417
>>4425417
>HoloEN being desperate
They have irrefutably and irrevocably set the footprint down for Hololive's existence in the west
Each one of them draws in a crowd of a caliber Yagoo would bot be able to replace. If any of them were to be petty enough to throw down ultimatums, Cover would have to kneel to each of the 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425268
I was thinking as in the Calligula drawing stream during the first week after debut. She can carry a stream if she cares about the subject matter. I also didn't want to switch it up because then the gallowsposting wouldn't make any sense.
>>4425284
I am presuming you are the same anon, in which case it's fine. I am partial to Options 1 or 3, kino is kino no matter who's starring in it. 誰でも大好き

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425417
NijiEN is not inclining

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
Mori probably does not even know Mouses condition and will do just as little prep work as she can

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425463
Mucho texto no leo

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424103
So, don't do anything that upsets your employer. Like, I know americans are obsessed with virtue signalling and being as FREE as possible, but fuck me its better when things are following certain guidelines and rules of conduct. God what a bitter fucking roastie that woman ist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425366
There's a lot wrong with the clip anon-kun. Vtubing is wholy built on Role Playing. That's the foundation she (Veibitch) spat on. Literally shitting on the the entire medium and what it was built on. Fuck that bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>you will never hear about the viscosity of Kiara's uterine lining discharge

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425185
You're delusional if you don't think it will be 1 with the roles reversed. Mori is a complete autist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
So we all know Connor and Mori are friends, they even mentioned they hung out IRL before, so I wonder if he will be brought up and make this place go insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425603
Why live?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423515
in the end. it's just a collab and pika will make something out of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425598
Mutts aren't demanding freedom. They're the ones who want you to be fired if you post anything on your personal none-work related social media accounts in your own free time that they disagree with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425598
>So, just kneel
Ogey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425606
This. Moona got her redemption arc in the last Shitpost Review. Mori is still an autistic mess outside preplanned stuff like the TTRPG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425624
Mori will bring him up. But, as always, she will get away with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425624
They hung out for the collab with TT and maybe before, but i seriously doubt Mori would hang out in the actual sense with connor, as he is the polar opposite of what she wants in even a friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423515
I mean in the initial mouse collab with Hololive post nobody really cared, but it seems we ether have a large amount of roleplayers or the purity authists decided to remove her from their whitelist for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425660
Moona was just lucky there was something actually funny to react to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425366
Just so you know, corporate ownership of corporate sourced/funded IP is standard practice of the ENTIRE entertainment industry. This practice is so prevalent it even exists in the tech sector. Veibae presented this as if this is was some evil predatory practice to lock the talent into a permanent relationship with the company. You are objectively wrong if you think that you're entitled to company property that they paid for just because you helped in making them money. That is something that you have to negotiate and obtain by mutual agreement. If you fail to obtain said right or don't like it that is on you.

There's a reason why you are told not to work on projects on your own outside of company related work (because when you're hired by a company, anything you create that's tangentially related to said company's line of business, they will take ownership over it).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425185
it's gonna be a mix of options 1 and 3
mousey is always nervous as fuck when she meets someone she admires but she also always ends up clicking with them almost instantly

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425602
>Cover is alone whole vtubing scene

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423515
I just want Pika to Collab with Ina... they both kept telling stories over how they would draw art for eachother in twitter DMS...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424593
>Didn't people try to cancel Mori and Miko too for the nigga shit?

That's was a non-starter since it was obvious to everyone that wasn't part of the cancel cult that they had no idea what they were actually saying and that there was no malice in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425624
>So we all know Connor and Mori are friends
If they were that a good friends i think we would have already seen him post about it in twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425682
>>4425683
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Riqw_AdYZE

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425744
Why does this design look like complete shit? The artstyle is nice but...everything else
Would have been easier to just redraw her old model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425185
It'll be fun and both will vibe well with each other. It will be by far the best collab Mori ever did because, surprise surprise, she really doesn7t give two shits about Hololive and would rather not interact with people there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425790
Are you trying to tell that Mori is Japanese and doesn't know English...anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425606
see >>4425526 and https://youtu.be/tsEqK_o3tBQ.. Either is an option. I wouldn't ascribe it to Mori's autism that she was a snore in the meme review, I would ascribe it to the huge lack of interest in current meme stuff and the format, which she confirmed on the first superchat reading right after that.
>>4425628
Because no one would share a VOD of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425689
It's just general antis weirded out that /vt/ is not a hivemind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425801
it's her evolved demon queen form

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>>4425770
They are tho. Everyone else is literally irrelevant in comparison. Collabs like these are basically charity to smaller agencies

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425770
Anon, you are literally replacing your persona with that of the character’s, for as long as you are assuming the role. Streaming in an official capacity practically necessitates as such, but chuubas have the additional requirement of separating their 3DPD selves from their models.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425800
>A guy who lives off leeching vtubers
>"Hangout a few times"
he means "i DM her on Discord or Social Media and she responds"
Dude's very demeanor and trope is what tormented and bullied Mori in her high school and college life

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425862

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425770
Show me non-TBA vtubers that don't roleplay. Even Veibae plays up the sluttiness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425431
>Indie
>Fired

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424658
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425348
Tbh my only real complain here is the last part
>After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it, and the way that they're treated... Keep defending it dude.
seems outright a lie

[Anonymous No.]

The stress of streaming with Mori could prove too much for her weakened frail little heart. I can see Mouse dying during that collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425907
She wasn't fired. She breached the terms on the contract she had with another person, thus that person upheld his right to exclude her from using his copyrighted property.
Contracts exist in all levels, regardless if you are a corporation, company, or artist collective like VOMS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425770
They might as well be seeing that every other ENvtuber branch or company just reacts to what Cover does, without building their own identity? Even Nijisaji abandoned their own identity with NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425770
I can't expect a dumbass like you to see the full picture. Use your brain nigga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425971
That would be kino but she has no immune system, she isn't going to die of shock.

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>>4425723
you're not looking at this from a streamer's perspective, which is where vei was coming from in that clip as an indie vtuber
holos cross a grey line where they're streamers but also actors who are property of a corporation which is understandably weird as fuck for anyone who isn't a holo fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425929
>be black
>suddendly political

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424416
>>4424597
>Ya boy fails to navigate all the eggshells
>A perfect storm of Callie's autism and Mouse's overreaction creates the most yab collab experience possible
>Shitstorm over who was in the wrong tears the internet apart
>Antis attack Callie, other Holos, Cover itself. >Death threats and doxxes are used.
>Chinks may or may not be involved
>Callie is now an optics nightmare and gets sacked
>HoloEN walks out in protest
>Vengeful Kiara spills the beans on Cover being extremely unethical behind the scenes
>Some people also decide to speak up about it
>Some Nijis come out with their stories as well
>And where nothing has been said, rumours and speculations spread like wildfire
>Information overload makes rrats indistinguishible from truth
>Rrat singularity achieved
>No discussion of Vtubers in general is now possible without all of this shit coming up
>Actual lawsuits and investigations happen
>Political commentators and social activists hop on the bandwagon to promote their agenda
>Hololive completely destroyed, Nijisanji scraps by and now rules supreme over the barren wasteland

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426002
>>4425986
>Who is KizunaAI

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425929
>Yasuke
Isn't this based on an actual story of about a black man that worked under Oda Nobunaga?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425856
Shit design

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425889
But that would require you to think about it, rather than make it into food for rats of unusual size

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425800
That really sounds like "we see maybe ones a week in konbini and say hi to each other but don't talk" tier hanging out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426062
and people call KFP insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426082
Yes

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>>4426062
>Some Nijis come out with their stories as well
>Hololive completely destroyed, Nijisanji scraps by and now rules supreme over the barren wasteland
>Nijisanji scraps by
>scraps by
Anon, I...

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>>4426015
>holos cross a grey line where they're streamers but also actors who are property of a corporation which is understandably weird as fuck for anyone who isn't a holo fan
They're not property. They can choose to break the contract and leave the company at will. The only property is the content created by them, which is true of just about any corporation that deals primarily with intellectual property. It will come with an enforceable non compete clause to protect the company from being taken advantage of, but that's about it.

What they do or how they act is personal preference of the talent, but there are things that they won't be allowed to do because they're representing a company. Many of those things relate to corporate lifestyle in general and are not specific to VTubers or even entertainment.

This isn't hard to grasp for anyone who has held a job even at entry level customer service.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425646
Those aren't all of us; those are the deranged leftoids that are basically NPCs.

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>>4426062
That would be quite hilarious but dont forget this part
>Diehard Holofans believe it was all a setup and Mouse was convinced by Nyanners to start this entire thing in motion
>The fanbase turn into full anti mode and VShojo falls apart
>Nji still cannot break into western mainstream
>Vtubers as a medium becomes tabu in the entire west
>All JP Vtubers region locks so you need VPN in order to watch them in order to filter all the hate

[Anonymous No.]

DEATH ALWAYS COMES KNOCKING

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426428
>Nji still cannot break into western mainstream
NijiENMa...

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>>4423082
I never stop doomposting holoEN so if anything I feel revendicated
Enjoy your whores because God knows you cant feel attached to anything else you cucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426475
hahahHAA DOD FUCKING SUNNFY NO ONE HAS MADE JOEK YEAT ANON HAHAAHHAHA I WEEXE AT YOUR COMEDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY HAAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAHAH FUNNYFUNFUNFUNFUFNUFNUFNUF JOIKMEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423164
Mousey dies on stream and Mori takes the silence as Mousey fucking with her and Mori loses her shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426082
>>4426173
Yasuke was nobunaga's pet, who was little higher status than a slave. Nobunaga would regularly hold audiences with other lords and offer them the chance to try and wash the black off of his skin. Yasuke was never given the title of samurai. People hate it because it's jewflix taking an opportunity to inject black acceptance into japan by making the story "cool" and giving him a japanese waifu. Japan is notorious for hating blacks so they're trying everything in their power to push minority immigrants on them. You can see this because there are literal articles and movements to push BLM and "anti-xenophobia" in japan 24/7.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426526
Give Mouse a chance. Besides the ENVSingers, she's one of the few ENVTubers I can stomach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424658
>t. man who never watched Coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426563
Is it not just a way to pander to black weebs? Most thing does not have an agenda outside making cash you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426648
Can you honestly say that about modern western media industry? They have thrown away millions for the sake of pushing agendas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426648
>black weebs
Pretty sure they also hate the revisionism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426533
Holotard.. are you okay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426372
Now name any other streamer outside of the big japanese vtuber corporations whose content (and more importantly the identity associated with that content) belongs entirely to a corporation like Cover and not the streamer themself

I don't feel like it's hard to understand why the japanese corpo practices seem backwards and predatory to people familiar with streaming outside of that specific bubble

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426748
MyHoloTV? Whatever company Mon Chateau was part of? Fuck off, Veibae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426692
They will pander to whatever agenda that makes them money, by standing on the 'right'' side of western morals they can produce shitty content and still make bank, there is a reason most CEO's would laugh at you if asked to do anything more than PR stunts

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425417
After seeing the numbers from the weekend and how they're panning out today, HoloJP is very much safe and still inclining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426905
Because Fubuki was always a degenerate kemono lover. She's just tweeting it in english. Same as her glasses fetish clip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426748
Weren't there a number of YouTube networks that went under and ended up taking all the channel contents down with them? It's not the same as with PewDiePie or Fr3d, since they created those channels on their own and ended up becoming famous, then got signed by major corporations.

In case you didn't know, Suisei, who now works under Hololive, is the owner of her old Channel and her original VTuber model. Unless she agreed to sell her persona over to Cover in exchange for access to their resources, then she can go back to being Suisei the indie.

Actually, come to think of it, they also own the music that not commissioned by Cover too... so it isn't as if the company is inflexible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423164
EPIC RRAT BATTLES OF HISTORY

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426824
>a malaysian bootleg hololive
ok you got me these are totally representative of streamers at large and refute my point that people familiar with the broader streaming landscape see the japanese corporate vtuber culture as fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>4427100
CALLIOPE MORI
VERSUS
IRONLUUUUUUUNG

[Anonymous No.]

>>4427129
We are talking about vtubers your utter retard, anyone who are the slightest bit familiar with them should know this. Which vtuber got to keep her model after graduation?

The only one i know is Miori Celesta but that's because she bough out the intellectual property fair and square.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4427086
>surrounded by a small army of yanderes
>thinks she can just leave
guess what no

[Anonymous No.]

>>4427206
that's the whole point you fucking mongoloid lmao
to people who aren't sucking the dick of japanese vtubing corporations the very concept of graduation for a streamer is absolutely pants on head retarded

[Anonymous No.]

Why is moris roommate wishing herself happy birthday? Wasn't her birthday I'm April lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426534
K I N O

[Anonymous No.]

>>4427283
It isn't, do you get to keep all the shit that your company gives you to do your job?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4427283
Veibaechama... the models are property of the company. Unless you had a previous one and negotiated that you could keep it like Suisei, leaving also means abandoning the model. Though, even for the company, the model is useless without the streamer unless they want gamebu 2.0 to happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424103
>They don't have any decision making when it comes to how they look like
wrong they can give input and have done so in the past
>They don't own their YouTube or their social media. If they get fired, they lose everything
welcome to youtube/twitch/twitter also name a holo that got fired
>it's called graduation, it's so fucked up, dude!
not really that fucked up

[Anonymous No.]

>>4427534
>holo that got fired
She Who Shall Not Be Named

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426475
Is this loss?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4427569
For good reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426078
someone who roleplayed an A.I girl...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424517
Do a flip off the tallest building you stupid cat whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1399273786835415041
Mouse is a far bigger nerd than Mori and she's really good in collabs, so I'm sure they'll get along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4428431
No anon, if you want a cat to die they have to fall from a very specific height or they'll just land on their feet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
Now how about a collab with mousey and gura?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4428479
>Now how about a collab with _____ and gura?
Not happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
why is the font so atrocious

[Anonymous No.]

>>4428500
Fuck you dubs, it would be cute to see them play a game together

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
>on YouTube
Wasn't this just a 4chan ad? Post proof of it being on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425463
>>If they get fired, they lose everything. Yeah, it's called graduation
According to this slut:
Chirs was fired (This is true tho)
Kaoru was fired
Kira and Suzaku were fired
Aloe was fired

ogey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
Coco has shown us that mori cant collab for shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423741
I'd explain it to you but the mods on /vt/ are on a vshojo payroll to ban anyone linking to it. lurk more newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425463
>Hololive personalities don't own their model.
>True criticism
Next you’ll say Chris Hemsworth don’t own Thor character too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4429074
Isn't it amazing how vshojofags only look towards this one quote and try to justify the entire rant on this alone? It's almost like Vei was spewing rrats to the world and she's getting called out for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4429148
Isnt it funny that holotards will defend its company like its a second mother to them?
For absolutely free?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4429000
Did you forgot that TTRPG collab already or recorder collab with Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

Its a collab that will make this shithole of a board seethe and the idolfags will shit themselves in rage.

Its fucking great, hopefully the first of many.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4429074
I can't imagine anyone else as Thor so he might as well own it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4428479
best we'll probably ever get is mouse reacting/singing to gura singing vids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0H6g-WFdhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PrC2BeC1O0
by all accounts mouse should want a gura collab more than mori since singing is both of their best talents
but alas, gura will leave mousey in the bathroom ...forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>4429363
Yes. Remind me on Moris social capabilities outside her EN group

[Anonymous No.]

>>4429382
>I can't imagine anyone else as Thor so he might as well own it
This but Roger Moore and James Bond but that didn’t prevent the train wreck that Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan and (spit on ground) Daniel Craig pulled

[Anonymous No.]

>>4427534
>not really that fucked up
The term is pretty fucked up. It is a figurative "lipstick on a pig" term for something that's terrible. Part of it goes back to the Japanese obsession with not firing people from companies in the first place, so they call it something else to get around the public shame they have to endure as a result. Even in termination, the company makes out okay, while the talent is still fired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4429213
>They literally support a terrible company. After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it, and the way that they're treated... Keep defending it dude.
Tell me friend, What did she mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
So Mori was the traitor after all...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424194
1). Hololive gets to use this as an excuse to reap all the benefits of the employment. I've said this elsewhere, but you can have the greatest model in the universe but it isn't shit without the person behind it to bring it to life. Pekora makes Pekora work, not the model. The model helps, but ultimately the one making money for them is the person behind it. So when the company decides to dump them, what does Pekora have left?
2. >EN's new outfits
Vei said that 9 months ago, right after EN debuted. Some things have changed and some things that had already changed are more widely known.
3. Vei's complaint is that they have to start from scratch. They have to start from zero followers, zero views, everything. They have to rebuild everything themselves after they already built it in the first place. Worse, the emphasis on anonymity for the roommate means that unless "you know", the fans have a harder time finding them if they want to keep supporting them. This is like, if Star Trek fired Kirk and nobody knew it was Shatner behind the character. No, Shatner doesn't own Kirk, but people know who Shatner is and he can find other roles and can still have a following as he is. That's harder to do for vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4429392
Korone collab was fine and they are already planning next Coco collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425452
So, because you don't know who she's talking about, that's a lie? I'm sure she's not lying, but whether she is confusing an HL member for, as others talk about, other agency members who left, is another story. That's not "lying" just being retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424208
T. Veibae

[Anonymous No.]

>>4429669
How do you go from
>Pekora makes Pekora work, not the model.
to this
>So when the company decides to dump them, what does Pekora have left?

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like Mori will actually be more comfortable around Mouse than other collabs she’s had

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423082
Is it sponsored by Make-A-Wish Foundation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424362
Mano Aloe

[Anonymous No.]

>>4429367
>>4429669
Veibaechama...
>what does Pekora have left?
Her fans? What does Hololive have? A model that nobody else will use else they bevome gamebu: electric boogaloo?
>That's harder to do for vtubers
What about HER? Or Mori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4426534
Mousey is just a gateway drug. Next you'll have Veibei collabing with (YOUR) oshi, asking her how much she loves sucking cocks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4429669
Most people know who their Oshi's roommates are. It's retards like you who don't understand that even though they play up their personality for their character they are still themselves. Only Vshitjos have this idea where the Kayfabe is all encompassing or it's all themselves. In reality, it's just a mix. A nuanced mix.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4423515
Pikamee has literally collabed with Artemis before, they're not gonna get mad about Ironmouse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4430058
rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>4429864
Pekora does make that character work, but she is known as Pekora. When she's "graduated", she's not Pekora anymore but, unless she's been doxx'd, nobody knows how "Pekora" is. I don't see how that is confusing.

Yes, "Pekora" could make a new vtuber work, but she'd have to start over from nothing, not even her reputation. What Vei is complaining about is that the talent should be able to leave and keep their character. Or buy it, or something. It isn't like Hololive is going to re-use the character again with another actress. Unless someone can correct me on whether that's actually happened. Would people still watch Pekora if someone else was behind it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424442
From what I've seen white people acting like they're black, liking rap, talking like black people ect is common with that crowd and even encouraged. "Degrading females" or whatever is ok because that's their culture and it's wrong to dictate culture to other races except when it's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4425271
Okay Xi

[Anonymous No.]

>>4424208
Are we talking about the internet's favourite celebrity, Kiaru Seethes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4430101
>she'd have to start over from nothing
President...
Triangle...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4430018
>Her fans? What does Hololive have? A model that nobody else will use else they bevome gamebu: electric boogaloo?
Isn't that kind of the point? Why not just let the "graduating" person have it? What are they going to do with it? Still sell merch? Find a new actress?

>What about HER? Or Mori?
Obviously that got out pretty well, and that's an example of someone going from something to Hololive. Now compare the examples of people from HL to indie. Yeah, a lot of you folks know who people are, because you're into the doxxfaggotry side of things, but I would wager a lot of the "normalfag" fans are not.

>>4430082
>Most people know who their Oshi's roommates are
I would wager that is less true than you think. 1 million subs and most, to which I would say is at least 51% know who the oshi's roommate is? I think sometimes you guys confuse yourselves with the wider majority. There are a LOT of normalfags in these fanbases.

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>>4430101
>Unless someone can correct me on whether that's actually happened.
In another company, but yes, it was called gamebu, Veibae. Do you know about it?

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>>4430274
>Yeah, a lot of you folks know who people are, because you're into the doxxfaggotry side of things, but I would wager a lot of the "normalfag" fans are not.
Are you moving the goalposts?
>There are a LOT of normalfags in these fanbases.
What type of fans do you think HER had? She was talented, and people found her again.
Or are you talking about talentless literal whos that complain about muh old numbers?

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>>4424066
Goes from legitimate criticism to personal opinion about corporate vtubers to misinformed speculation, then seemingly jumps to "terrible company" out of nowhere, which is still personal opinion. The ending of course is the offensive part. She could have said "I got that mixed up with another company but I stand by everything else as my personal opinion on corporate franchised vtubing" and I think it would have been acceptable to most people. Being too arrogant to admit to being wrong about anything is always gonna piss people off.

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>>4430344
>Are you moving the goalposts?
No, I was always speaking about the fanbase, all of it, and not limiting it to just the people "in the know". In fact, I said the only people who would be able to follow were the ones "in the know", which is not a majority.

>Or are you talking about talentless literal whos that complain about muh old numbers?
Admittedly, it was a mistake to use Pekora, the most popular HL, for these examples, because "graduation" would most likely come from either those who make huge fuckups or the ones who aren't being watched. So, yes, my concern is more for the smaller ones and I think it is also Vei's concern. When you look at the differences between Cover and VShojo, Nyanners could leave VShojo any time and still be Nyanners. Froot, who was created with VShojo, could still leave and be Froot. Their characters will sustain them after "graduation". Many HL graduates would not.

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feels good to only watch jp holos.

I can sit back and watch the final yab in peace.

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>>4430101
>not even her reputation
fucking bullshit headcanon
every tuber who left and started over carried their reputation with them unless they went to great lengths to hide it.
>Would people still watch Pekora if someone else was behind it?
No newfag, this was settles years ago. How does it matter?
The point isn't whether people would watch Pekora with someones else at the wheel
but whether people would watch 'not pekora' with the same person at the wheel
and the answer is yes

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>>4430274
>examples of people from HL to indie
What examples? Delta?

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>>4430807
Letter B, Vei will just ignore you. She already ignored >>4430251, and one of those examples wasn't even Hololive.

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>>4424066
They actually do have input into their characters, only the earlier gens got screwed there. As for the rest of the criticism, this is valid for most jobs. A pilot doesn't get to keep an airbus when he gets fired either but that doesn't mean he's doomed to be a hobo because he was still able to accrue experience and he can use that for future jobs. Just look at Polka, Hololive was right there to snatch her up as soon as her previous employer dropped her and plenty of other holos were also working in entertainment before.

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>>4430807
All the Chinese reincarnated. I only know the name of the one that Artia became but I didn't watch them before and certainly won't now. The people that are into that sort of thing might however.

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>>4429213
how new
there's a page long copypasta of all the shit that the cover fucks up
vei shotgun sprayed random bullshit and only managed to touch on one true thing (model ownership) that applies to nearly all the corpos anyways

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>>4430897
They didn't become indy.

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>>4430274
>Now compare the examples of people from HL to indie
Hitomi Chris fell off the face of the earth.
Aloe is Inclining HARD.
Suzaku is literally bigger than all the homos.
Every CN member except 1 all have dedicated fanbases.
Kaoru is living his TTRPG dreams
Kira is active, just not that much because of health.
Do you even watch hololive bro? Do you even follow these accounts? Do you expect people to just gobble up your rrats like Vei you dumb nigger?

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>>4431009
Indie or some bottom of the barrel Chinese company, not much functional difference.

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>>4424880
No, she whacks off to posts such as below:
>>4428431
>>4424804

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Did they push it back? I don't think they would be just now advertising if it's still on Thursday.

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>>4430692
>I think it is also Vei's concern
Is anyone arguing 'Vei has no personal concern for them'? no
She just had no idea what she was talking about. The only applicable thing she mentioned was model ownership, and even that is being overblown.

Sure it's cool that Vshojo is basically a collab coop, but that was only possible thanks to members having pre-existing fanbases. Cover operates differently because it GIVES this foundation to their talents. And in the end, any talent who leaves can make a fresh start, but still carry over their reputation and core fans to their new channel. If they still fail to make a living after that, then they never would have made it without Cover to begin with.

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>>4423741
Pika loves cunny, Nyanners well... is easy to know her stance on that topic

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>>4431162
Literally no talent is making "Fresh starts". Every talent that has left to keep producing their own content has gotten a massive boost because people care about the talent. I don't know where this idea that, "They get graduated into homelessness" comes from. Where literally every talent that has left gained a following for their new or roommate accounts. It's just bullshit plain and simple.

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>>4424880
>Aw yeah, they're telling me to kill myself again

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>>4431330
> fresh start, but still carry over their reputation and core fans
reading comprehension
thats what I said

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>>4429475
it´s a catch all term that encompasses firing and quitting by yourself
it´s just that
someone leaving the company
no one gets executed or anything just a person parting their ways with a former employer
it really is not that dramatic as people like to make it seem

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>>4423082
Is there a reason they choose a trans flag for the background?

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>>4432255
so this is wat connor meant when he said "I didnt know you were ill until I saw you"

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>>4432255
Anon the ad isn't real.

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>>4425271
>no Ollie
>no Haato
>Polka
>Kiara and Coco

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>>4432827
Its a mobile ad and yes it was paid for by a twitchtranny.

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>>4426692
yes

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>>4427573
No. Some months ago someone on the draw threads requested Mori standing over a Ironmouse with a reference photo of the 2016 Ghostbusters, standing next to a child with terminal cancer.

Apparently Mouse saw this but the only proof is her talking about a vague picture she wasn't too happy about, but that's all really

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>>4424066
what is this mess, she sounds so unsure every sentence.
>background stuff, that they have to do just to be in Hololive and how they have to be roleplaying it's like spooky.
pretty sure she did her doxxing reps to the holos if she can say this, she probably looked on their old stuff and thought its related to auditioning.

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>>4428479
Gura would realistically only even consider Melody, as she is also on Cloud 9 of "fuck you guys, i do what i want on my own stream". Everyone else would 100% be in it for views and shoutouts

Then again
>Gura collabs with Nyanners
>"So nyanners, whats your favorite LO Doujin?"
>'ohhhh uhhh'
>"I personally looooove Noise's artwork"
>'ohh uhh, me too i guess'
>"Hey Nyanners"
>'Yea?'
>"Let's sing Pomf Pomf Kimochi"

The bullying would be off the fucking chart, and Gura would blacklist her the minute the collab was over too