Vtubers Streams View/Time Ranking - May Numbers

[Anonymous No.]

I'm back. See the picture for the numbers. Just look at the big table on top for the quickest results; or the one on the bottom for individual ranks..
If you want a quick summary, most categories of vtubers are either stagnated or dropping in views, when comparing april to may, which is to be expected since the quarantines over covid are ending, so people have less time to spend on watching streamers now. You can however see a slight growth of some jp groups mainly due to Golden Week happening, which got them a lot of collabs, tournaments or special streams such as outfits or 3Ds - you can expect those jps to fall a bit the next month
I made a quick test in removing many of the most special streams (10 costumes and 3 3Ds from holo; 5 3Ds from niji), but saw that their growth doesn’t fall that hard, as those streams are usually diluted by several other videos + all the other members who had a normal month. So for example, HoloEN goes from +21,1% to +7,5%; HoloJP from -1,5% to -4,5%; Nijifem from -7,4% to -9,8%, to give us an idea how much did those impact the numbers we see on the picture by the left.
The category ‘others’ had the biggest rise this month, but I wouldn't trust it much, since last month when I did the same analysis they had the biggest fall - guess they are really volatile to the situation. Twitch vtubers are also doing better growth than youtube ones [especially Nyanners and Ironmouse, they’re jumping up 10+ ranks each month], in a rough general, although they are still much smaller in their view/time rates.
I’ll post down below the vtubers ranks history I'd collected updated with this month as well.
I’m using the metric (vod) views/time because it seems to be the best metric we can use for comparisons. There’s no way to calculate direct hours watched without having access to data analytics from inside each channel owner or bullshit it; simply counting total views doesn’t take into account how much did they stream to get there (and they usually count small skits and music videos as well); and live viewers (on youtube) are very buggy and cut off a significant portion of that real number (for example, comparison between Miko’s twitch and youtube minecraft streams seem to indicate that 35% of her yt live viewers numbers are hidden [read the OP or the whole thread >>2253454 for anons discussion on the possible reasons for it).
Reading and trying to compare all those ratios for each hour length would have been a pain for any of you, so that’s why I’ve already gone ahead and made the ranking tables, with ranks for inside each time length. The longer the stream time, the fewer vtubers that had any videos available to calculate. Never compare general view/time ratios of streamers who have very different stream duration averages - that’s why I painted those general rankings on right in grey. Only compare data (or ranks) from the same time length. .
Also, I had a cap of 43 videos per streamer, so it might miss a few videos for a few chuubas, but it’s good enough to get their ratios already. Video types like short skits, short amvs/covers/original songs, members only, or private were not included for the calculations. Videos analyzed for 'this month' are from the time period of 19-04-21 to 28-05-21 (~10pm jst). Streams from this recent weekend were not included.
You can see the biggest growth fluctuations with those vtubers who had some huge special stream (like 3ds, costumes, returns). They can be big rises if the special vids happened on this month; or big falls if the special vids occurred on last month. On those cases you can see % change of one specific time length way superior than the rest for that vtuber.
Collecting all this data was a whole lot of work, so no promises that I’ll be doing this again, or as big of a list. I don’t think I missed anyone too big, I left out the smaller nijisanjis, or holostars or whoever else because I don’t have the time to include them all - but I did include a few smaller ones just out of curiosity. If you think I left out someone relevant you can try convincing me to do their numbers as well, although if they are too small I’ll just tell you to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

So basically Gura is #1 in almost every time column and Vshojo has the most consistent incline? Oh no jpbros..

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Thank you Anon for your analysis

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>>4416243
For a thread about numbers, that sure is a whole lot of words that I'm not about to read

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and here's the vtubers ranks history. This one is not supposed to be perfect especially for the past years having worse sources, but it gives a good indication I guess

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Ogey

[Anonymous No.]

So Hololive keeps owning everyone, nice

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is her problem?

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Miko inclining, I like.

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>>4418536
Being based

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>>4418025
I'm glad my boy Toya make it to top 10.

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>>4418833
OP should have filtered for min number of streams.

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>>4418992
yea i didnt filter them, but you got the last data on the left table: "number of videos checked (for the time period)" that will show you those who had too few, so if you want you can choose to ignore those who dont make past your minimum

[Anonymous No.]

You neglected to establish why views/time is a meaningful metric. (Hint: it's not)

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>>4419530
Any number is meaningless if it doesn't confirm my bias.

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>>4419530

I'm not him/her, but it seems to be indicating the amount of time that each individual person watched before turning off. It would indicate the average level of engagement and perceived value of the product offered.

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>>4416243
>view/time
That is an utterly retarded metric

[Anonymous No.]

Poor Silverdale......

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>>4417832
>numberfags cant even numberfag properly

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>>4420565
How the fuck does it do that?
It literally just divides the viewcount by the length of the stream/video.
It is literally a metric designed to undervalue long streams while overvaluing short ones, this becomes twice as true when you consider that vod growth on shorter streams is orders of magnitudes larger than on long streams

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks for the monthly numbers, Anon!

[Anonymous No.]

I kinda see what OP was going for, but I don't really see how this is much more informative than simple average views per vid over a month, and it sure is a fuck load more work.

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>>4420752
This. View/time is worthless as a metric to follow/track unless you have direct access to channels analytics data as a source because it doesn't tell anything about how viewers behave while watching the live stream.

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Gura buy bots to get this many view

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>>4421165
If you had access to channel data you'd use the most valuable metric and the one that Youtube looks at the most when not artificially pushing new features like community posts and polls, which is viewtime, ie. Time people actually spend watching the videos.

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>>4421165
I have no comment on OP's method of normalization but
>how viewers behave while watching the live stream.
Why does this matter ?
The first three numbers you see in your YouTube Channel Analytics are literally "Current subscribers" , "Views" and "Watch Time".
No numberfags have access to watch time ( which is the number they are pushing now over VOD views) and retention time anyway.
Only Views and Subs , and engagement ( llikes/dislikes) are public data that can be used for numberfagging.

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>>4420752
did you even bother to read the tables or op text? All of them are separated by ranges of 1hours exactly by that reason, and they are only compared in the same time ranges.

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>>4420752
did you even bother to read the tables or op text? All of them are separated by ranges of 1hour exactly because of that reason, and they are only compared in the same time ranges of 1hr to 1hr.

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>>4423179
hm seems I didnt explain this one part throughly, for the ranks, I do not use the general view/time of the vtubers, which I painted in gray and explicitily told you in the Op not to use.
Rather than try to explain it, let me just give you an example: Marine is 7/155 for 1hr range; 3/148 for 2hrs range; 3/127 for 3hrs range; 7/101 for 4hrs range; 3/76 for 5hrs range; 2/54 for 6hrs range; and 1/38 for 7hrs range; now take the average of those fractions and that makes her 0,03731 fraction in avg. The smaller that number is, the higher in rank you are.
For example, Aqua was 0,03307 and Ayame, 0,4938.

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>>4423534
Ayame was 0,04938, missed a zero there

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>>4416243
Thanks for the work.
Some of the data I found interesting in there for this timeframe simple average
>HoloEN +23.8% Dif
>NijiFem -10% Dif

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>>4416243
B-A-S-E-D

THE FUTURE IS GLOBAL

WEEBCELS IN SHAMBLES AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>4416243
GO INA GO

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>>4423534
>Aqua
>Ayame
Who?

>>4418153
And consistently reclining save Pecor for a while?
https://note.com/anrimayura/n/nc41780381f1f

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>>4418565
She is being given preferential treatment newfag

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>>4425349
seethe

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>>4416243
April's time frame is 19/03 to 18/04 (~30 days)
May's time frame is 18/04 to 28/05 (~40 days)

Is this correct or 28/05 is a typo for 18/05?

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>>4425733
yea its 28/05, because (if) next time I do it it can stay mostly in one month, in about 30 days or so

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>Miu inclining
Unexpected development imo.
Now that WACTOR got a real spanish speaking chuuba I do wonder if she's gonna grab some of those new viewers, or if spics are gonna ditch Miu for Misora.

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>>4418025
This table clearly shows that ironically covid19 made hololive stronger.

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My conclusion:
JP2, JP3 and EN1 are a league of ahead of the other gens.

JP2, JP3, EN1 -> Tier 1
JPGAMERS, JP4, JP5 -> Tier 2
JP0 -> Tier 3
JP1 -> Tier 4
ID2, ID1 -> Tier shit

EN1 has the best overall performance since Kiara is easier to carry compared to Choco and Flare.
After Kiara (38), Polka (40) is the easiest, lowest performer to carry.
JP3 has the best top 3 performances (2, 4, 6), followed by JP2 (3, 5, 9), and then EN1 (1, 14, 17).
JP5 has the smallest gap between their top and lowest ranking, 40 - 24 = 16, followed by EN1(37), JP4(41), ID1(46), ID2(51), JP2(61), JP0(65), JP3(66), JP1(90).

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>>4418025
Aloe showing up in August 2020. Pretty weird

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So basically it just shows that the people that got into vtubers because of JP side are just getting sucked away to western vtubers because they understand them more.

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>>4432062
meant to say it confirms my bias that*

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>>4430195
Very interesting, I hadn't even realized how well JP2 was doing.
Just EN seemed a bit biased because of outfit reveals. I just tested it, removing the 5 of those streams to get them their new ranks, but they actually dont drop as many ranks as I expected:
Gura 1 -> 1
Amelia: 14 -> 16
Calliope 17 -> 18
Ina 21 -> 21
Kiara 38 -> 39
So I guess those big streams actually brought back some interest back to the ens (as they still grow in both time/view or in rank relating to others), although we cant tell if it is only temporary. Only time will tell. [ah but them doing more collabs lately definitely helped as well]

>>4418025
small note i dont want to make a new post about, but there are many vtubers getting to the highest position they had ever gotten yet:
- Aqua (just barely didnt make it to #2)
- Rushia
- Subaru (technically tied with another month, but there was no gura then, so shes on her best jp position)
- Shigure
- Kanata
- Chihiro (best one in years)
- Towa
- Gatchman
and the vshojos might break it to the this top list in a month or two if they keep it up

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>>4430195
Damn, how hard Aki, Mel and Matsuri drags down the average viewers of the Gen1, Fubuki being the most regular, and Haachama being the powerhouse but too irregular with her schedule (maybe this is boosting her numbers like Ayame)

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>>4432062
>So basically it just shows that the people that got into vtubers because of JP side are just getting sucked away to western vtubers because they understand them more.
there are only so many JOPs in existence so the JP market has probably already gotten most of the growth it's ever going to get. western vtubers rapid growth in comparison is mostly due to the significantly larger market.

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>>4425934
April was a shit month for wactor, they did literally nothing but unarchived ASMR. It would've been surprising if she didn't recover after that shitshow.

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>>4432062
The JP market is oversaturated with 10,000+ vtubers with the bulk of the viewers going to the largest agencies, at this point it's like squeezing blood from a stone.

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>>4416243
YOU REALLY THINK THAT I'M GONNA READ THIS WALL TEXT?
FUCK OFF

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>>4416243
Nice.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm happy nyanners is growing. all time internet classic deserves it

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There's too fucking many of them. It's literally impossible to keep up with the content of even a handful of them because of how much they stream unless you're a NEET. They're already poaching each others' viewers and it will only get worse if agencies keep creating new gens.

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>>4416243
Why are you separating female and male nijisanji when they are literally in the same company? This makes absolutely no sense, unlike hololive and holostars that are separated agencies.

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>>4416243
too much text, i need more numbers you retard

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>>4443081
I wonder where everything will be in 5 years.

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>50 replies
>still not explanation why these numbers are meaningful
Stop bumping this garbage. If you're gonna numberfag, at least use numbers that matter.

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>>4446250
Well then show me some meaningful numbers?
These are the only stats we get since it's the only public info available.

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>>4418025
What happened in July 2019 when Kizuna Ai randomly took the top spot?

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>>4446560
Research says June 2019 was when they came forward with the Four AI-chan clones and the creation of the AI Channel China. So most likely people watched during July 2019 to see if the rrats were true about her being replaced

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>>4432474
JP2 had the advantage of Aqua and Ayame being inconsistent streamers during the period which may have skewed the numbers.

Compare that to JP3 and EN1 who stream consistently.

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>>4416243
Can you share the raw data or explain how you collect it?
I've already made some numberfag visuals before but I need data to work with

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>>4445920
specifically for those comparisons unless you want them to get destroyed completely, by separate metric you can say Star is underperforming to Kuzuha while with their entire company you can't

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>>4448122
Let it be destroyed then. Nijisanji male and female aren't separated.

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>>4445920
Call out separating generations inside a single branch of a single company first >>4430195

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>>4451259
Why I would call that when that was clearly to compare hololive with itself instead of this thread.

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>ignoring CCV this heavily
why?

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>>4430195
>EN1 has the best overall performance since Kiara is easier to carry
he's a kfp
that explains why you're not touching concurrent (live) viewers.

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>>4452929
Ive already explained it on OP, but see the picture on the left for more info

>>4447480
https://www.sendspace.com/file/0f4lby
fair warning I only made it friendly to my own use. Each vtuber is on a separate column, data doesnt always start from the same first row. The filter for which videos collected:
>I had a cap of 43 videos per streamer, so it might miss a few videos for a few chuubas, but it’s good enough to get their ratios already. Video types like short skits, short amvs/covers/original songs, watchalongs, members only, or private were not included for the calculations. Videos analyzed for 'this month' are from the time period of 19-04-21 to 28-05-21 (~10pm jst). Streams from this recent weekend were not included.

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>>4452929
> CCV
Go to your YouTube channel analytics and find out which numbers really matter to the channel.