Now.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/04F4xlWSFh0

[Anonymous No.]

2022
Cover
Revenue - 13,663,728,000
Profit - 1,244,465,000
Anycolor
Revenue - 14,164,000,000
Profit - 2,793,000,000

[Anonymous No.]

>>44083770

[Anonymous No.]

>>44083770
>>44083807
Better pump out those cheap voicepacks. Your numbers are reclining based on investor confidence

[Anonymous No.]

>>44083683

[Anonymous No.]

>>44083683
Oh nyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44083996
They were relying so much on nijien/zhangbucks for growth that the moment china started leaving them the investors lost confidence
Might be the reason why they are refocusing resources from the failing nijien branch to the nijijjp branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>44083770
>>44083807
>>44084256
Thanks for being there to defend nijisanji ch anon. mwah

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084460
Yeah, charts literally indicates minuscule if none, growth in nijiJP. I wonder how will they fare now that NijiEN is over the Chink honeymoon phase. Though, Bilibili and the Chinese government can do something about it. Since they are owners of anycolor, they can just push them in china more and more

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>>44084539
>Though, Bilibili and the Chinese government can do something about it.
Dont think they can especially with Xi retarded internet curfew law which he is supposedly looking to expand from 10pm to 6pm and more restrictions on foreign media

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084460
>>44084539
While in reality, you can literally delete all the sales from NijiEN and Anycolor will still have more sales than Cover in Q1 and Q2.
Sometimes I am really amazed by how you fags can ignore facts and pull shit out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084581
It's kind of hilarious that NijiJP on its own makes more money that HoloJP, HoloEN and holoID combined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084581
>Vtuber company with 4x more vtuber has more profits than the other company
no shit sherlock
the funny thing is that for a company with that much streamers the gap is quite small

[Anonymous No.]

Man kinda sucks that none of the livers get to taste that profit from anycolor since they dont give them any percentage in merch sales for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>44083770
>Refused to spend money on their employees and livers
What's wrong with AnyColor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084680
>headcanon

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084680
yeah ive seen comments on youtube about it on how nijisanji somehow gets 80-90% of their streamers income

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084646
>Y-you have 2 times more streamers so you have to earn 2 times more!!
Here it comes, the retarded cope.
That's not how business works, moron.
Also, even including all ex-KR and ID, the total member of Nijisanji isn't even 2x as HoloJP+HoloEN+HoloID+Holostar.

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>>44084732
>headcanon
https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1130702535147188224?
グッズ供給されるみたいだ
俺には1銭も入らないからお前が満たされるだけ買え

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084578
>foreign media
They won’t be considered that because they literally run the Chinese vtuber market in partnership with bilibili

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084716
Anycolor pays their employees better than Cover do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084763
Like I said headcanon. You're going from one tweet 5 years ago about who knows which goods specifically and then saying nobody gets anything ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084646
They have more vtubers yes, it doesn't mean all of them make the same amount of money for this to make sense as an argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084765
>They won’t be considered that because they literally run the Chinese vtuber market in partnership with bilibili
Anon they removed tons of ccp stamped white monkey streamers
getting b2 stamp means shit now due to the crackdown after the covid protests

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if any of you actually watch vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084737
>on youtube
where? on falseeyed and khyo? kek
you know this merchandise thing here isnt the physical but also voice packs right? the thing the members get the most share?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084737
>Youtube comment
>le truth
I thought being reddit should be the lowest you fag can be
>>44084763
Everyone in Niji fandom knows the difference between company merch and merch that they clearly get a cut.
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000068.000030865.html
Although this was from 5 years ago and there's no prove that such a system still exists as most merch will get promoted by whom took part in.

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>>44084768
Oh no no

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084816
>get presented evidence
>headcanon
the fact that kuzuha which is a huge percentage of their merch sales doenst get any money from his merch speaks volumes anon

[Anonymous No.]

dont forget that one of the niji streamers had to beg for their audience for cash in order to get medical treatment due to anycolor not giving them any cut of the income

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>>44084845
Probably just here to make one guy seethe. We're not sure who the Op like even. Probably, just a shitposting falseflaggot but we'll take it

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084878
Like I said you're taking one tweet about some specific instance of merch and saying that applies all the time to everyone. That's headcanon. The most your tweet shows is that at one point in time Kuzuha didn't get money for some kind of merch. It doesn't even say it was merch Anycolor was selling could be licensed third party stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/c3SGdPwmy6k

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>>44084939
>stream once in a blue moon
>had a job besides streaming
>got laid off suddenly and thus asked for a temporary help
>ITS BECAUSE ANYCOLOR DON"T GIVE THEM ANY CUT
Some of your narratives is just plain funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084965
>Like I said you're taking one tweet about some specific instance of merch and saying that applies all the time to everyone.
if their top earner is getting shat on then you can bet the bottom barrel ones are also getting shat on

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085057
This isn't the gotcha you think it is unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085044
Man its gonna be a sad day when nijien gets the id/kr treatment
pretty grim considering they started cancelling official and fan events like with what they did with kr and id

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085103
>>44085044
come on anon everyone already knows that money speaks in niji and those on top gets all the cash
hell the most likely reason of the nijien concert being cancelled was due to them realizing that they probably will lose money on that

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>>44084863
This destroys the nijinigger. As long as my fav holo gets her just share, I'm happy. The fact that a big portion of that 13Billion goes to my oshi's pockets (homo revenues are irrelevant) is a good indicator that I will continue to support.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084768
>unironically posting that
pffff
Talents are not Cover employees, they are contracted "performers"

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085165
>>44085165
I love how this fag is just basically parroting every retarded narrative directly from /#/ and just going with another one when one got BTFO'd

[Anonymous No.]

Nijifag don't care about their member, the company can cut budget, take higher cut or don't give support at all, as long as it would make them look like they are making more money for the company and they will defend them, actual corpo boot lickers lol

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>>44085165
You're fundamentally misrepresenting things no matter how you look at it. Acting like that whole commerce section goes to the company when it doesn't. It includes voice pack too which is literally the livers best way of making money and what they almost universally recommend as the best way to support them. According to the translated article posted here yesterday
>ANYCOLOR sells digital merch called "Voice Packs" at the official store of "Nijisanji. These products, which are voicelines read from original scripts by the "person inside" a VTuber and cost very little, have been the foundation of ANYCOLOR's earnings.
Voice packs which are included in that commerce chunk on the graph are the main foundation of their revenues and livers get the biggest share of that out of anything.

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>>44085254
The guy claimed Anycolor doesn't spend money on their employees. They pay them better than Cover does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085398
>Le support
It doesnt matter what you think cause at the end of the day the company with the bigger money always wins and thats Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085448
Anycolor spends a ton of money on their employees anon which is why riku gets a big paycheck.
Only problem is that livers arent employees so they get jack shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085405
so voice packs and sc are the only ways niji livers make money everything else goes to the company

[Anonymous No.]

>shit I made up

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085579
Not at all? They get money from merch, membership, ad sense, sponsorships, events, music recordings and so on too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085541
>livers arent employees so they get jack shit
Proof next thread?
Is the voice in your head told you that? Every newbie now can literally treat Vtubing as a job as soon as they got monetized, retarded

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/u2fGW5Lt9jw

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085491
Good to know. Cased closed then

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085631
>>44084763

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085491
>t.corpo boot licker

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/u2fGW5Lt9jw
https://youtu.be/u2fGW5Lt9jw
https://youtu.be/u2fGW5Lt9jw

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085678
>Didn't get cut from company merch 5 YEARS AGO
>T-they gets jack shit from everything else!!
Are you genuinely retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

This conversation will timeloop again tomorrow for the daily reds. And the same guy will reply

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085725
>ask for proof
>proof given
>b-but

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085737
It's just funny how some moron will parroting the same shit over and over again no matter how many time it gets BTFO'd
>>44085741
>Seriously think that one is a gotcha
OK, kill yourself, schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085702
>Even if 1 billion copies are sold , you won’t get a penny anymore….

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085788
>that proof is unacceptable since it ruins my narrative

[Anonymous No.]

All these threads boil down to is forecasting another full year of you retards making various "This time, but for sure"-type posts about either agency, and alluding to ancient stuff that you weren't around for/lack context and probably just copy+pasted from some /#/nig who dove into the archives for tribal ammo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085811
Read this and then kill yourself
>>44084861

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085741
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084768
Talents are not employees.
Mean salary doesn’t mean shit when one over-paid retard can change everything. I guess at least one higher manager at Niji is getting loads of money, who cares?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085702
>since it’s a payment per song so, no matter how much they sell. Since you made a contract, you won’t get any revenue
Sad…

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085889
>>44085792
Imagine not knowing Kaede was a musician under Lantis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085792
Shes talking about her record contract with Lantis there so I guess that's down to what she's negotiated with them and would vary from member to member depending on what record label they signed up with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085888
Pure cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085889
its the typical anycolor contract
they get all the money while the livers get jack shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085973
Talents are not employees. This is fact.
Mean value is a garbage stat, especially when comparing two very close values. This is also fact.
If you don’t have median, there are absolutely not worth comparing.

learn2stats and kys

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>>44083770
>Doesn't pay their employees
That's the Nijisanji we know and love. Don't forget how they fired all of KR and ID management and now ID talents keep complaining that they're forgotten. Gotta keep those Chinese investors happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086067
>there are absolutely not worth comparing.
>Instantly some retarded >>44086079 start comparing without even using the actual number
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085941
>Nijisanji made a contract with lantis and both fucked my liver over
happy now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085823
I remember seeing similar doomposting about Nijisanji about a year ago thanks to stuff like the Fantasia cancellation and Warabeda's graduation and then 2022 turned out to be Nijisanji's best year yet.

Surely this year will be different, right, Holobros?

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>>44086067
>doesn't count because cover is worse
Coping

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086157
The fact that she can say that already shows it's a known fact in the musical industry instead of falling any NDA, moron
Even the same for western musicians and all your precious Holomem that has a deal with major music label

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086177
You forgot to add that they still earned the tickets money because they didn’t accept any refunds kek. Nijisanji literally winning

[Anonymous No.]

>>44085127
the fact that you think en has any chances to be kr/id shows how much retarded you are. theres 0% chance of that happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086067
Not a worthwhile statistic says 4chan internet expert because it doesn't prove his narrative. Meanwhile it's a standard measure used in industry such that both companies report it the exact same way.

[Anonymous No.]

People in here really loves making bad faith arguments about nijisanji, to the point retards think its real and spread misinformation outside.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086247
>earned the tickets money because they didn’t accept any refunds
Another stupid narrative that come from numbernigger's ass
https://dwango-ticket.jp/notification/detail/5

[Anonymous No.]

funny how anons insist niji members dont get money when aia, a 3view, say she makes a living from streaming despite the fact that her ccv is second lowest in EN

[Anonymous No.]

>anon who have no idea how an IPO works numberfagging over an IPO
Oh boy.

So looking at the open and where the stock peaked we can see that the stock tripled in value. This is pretty common a lot of people play IPOs specifically for this movement.

Now why after tripling in value did the stock suddenly dive back down to its opening value. A few things caused this.

>People playing the IPO sold
>some paperhanded individuals sold
>the biggest part of this Anykara themselves sold off positions to secure a profit for themselves and the company

A stock rising or falling does not mean a company is good or bad. Now of we start seeing falling revenue and other issues then yeah.

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>>44086285
>Conviently ignores that the no refund meme stemmed from the fact that one of the members Axia was suspended a month before Nijfest

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086268
Open wide
https://www.statology.org/when-to-use-mean-vs-median/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086285
wasnt the no refund thing from the event in october last year? why are you showing a february event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086357
You're coping because the numbers don't fit your narrative. If this was such a pointless and useless statistic both companies wouldn't report it as the main measure of how much they pay their staff.

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>>44086398
Did you even graduate highschool? I don’t care what retarded stats they are required to provide by law. It’s not meant to be compared, because it’s a garbage stat.
EVEN if it was a good stat, this is still the staff not the talents. WHO the fuck cares how much staff is earning?

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>>44086443
Classic holofag tactics. If the number doesn't make cover look better then it doesn't count or it doesn't matter anyway. You guys are so laughably transparent with your copes.

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>>44086342
>can't even distinguish Fantasia from NijiFes
>think meme /here/ is truth
Truly pathetic
Also, around 40 livers were involved in the small meet-and-talk section and 99% of the people don't come just for Axia. This narrative literally comes from numbernigger that didn't even know what Axia took part in.
>>44086370
The Fantasia on Nijifes happened, retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086477
>A nijiwin on a retarded stat is still a nijiwin
Next let’s compare the number of dicks nijifans can suck. Surely niji will win this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086285
>>44086490>he thinks no refunds is a rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086528
The amount of cope is embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086398
retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086551
>reading comprehension
One ticket can be used on every liver on that day at any time, moron

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086598
>promised axia to axia fans
>didnt deliver
>just go look at something else no refunds

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>>44086615
There is an official way to resell your ticket so even if you really don't want to attend because of Axia, you can still sell the fucking ticket to some that want to go as plenty of people failed get it, retarded.
It was literally on the picture you posted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44083770
>they are people trying to justify this when anycolor loses 1.3b yen to taxes

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086598
>Says no refunds is just a meme and was not real
>Get proven otherwise
>B-but they can just look at other livers
Why couldnt they refund the tickets for people who didnt have a reason to go anymore?
>>44086639
Why couldnt they just accept the refund when the problem itself was caused by the company? seems pretty scummy that they tried to pass the problem to the consumers

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086639
>cant get a refund
>"just sell your ticket!"
Retarded nijifags

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086280
That's the problem with arguing with holofags that show up in these threads. They're all completely disingenuous. It doesn't matter how many times you will prove their narratives wrong they'll just repeat the same thing again anywhere people will listen knowing they're wrong already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086639
>no refund is a rrat, cope,BTFO i win, just resell your ticket
this one guy trying too hard to defend his oshi Riku, if you're doing this for free, that's so pathetic, unironically kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086686
I'm sorry but you've got to accept that the original post about this is completely misrepresenting the situation. This post would let you believe they cancelled an entire event and hoodwinked people en masse when they didn't offer any refunds and nobody got anything for their money
>>44086247
When what actually happened is some small proportion of ticket holders going specifically for one person not caring about anything else at all didn't get what they wanted. And those small number of people that literally only cared about one thing people had an official means provided to them to get their money back anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086959
>when they didn't offer any refunds and nobody got anything for their money
I mean anycolor didnt provide refunds even though the problem was on their side which was the whole point of the post

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086639
You're never going to ride on Riku's 3rd yacht, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086686
>>44086699
I don't really blame you for not knowing the ticket attending the section that Axia was supposed to be at was free with a heavy lottery because you're disingenuous EOP, and 99% of the people don't really need a refund as you can still attend the 99% of other contents but I guess the "nijifan" living in your head will scream for a refund because it's the only thing you know.
https://fes.nijisanji.jp/tickets/
Also
>was caused by the company
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>44087059
But what were talking about here is almost nobody. And that post is making out like the fact they didn't give refunds is somehow making a big difference to their bottom line. When in reality it's completely negligible the number of people that would have wanted one just for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44087059
> the problem was on their side
It's just funny that you literally know nothing about why Axia didn't attend the thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>44087092
>>44087160
>>44087214
Axia is part of the company anon and the problem with axia going menhera is a company problem
Any other company would have provided refunds especially when it was on the company and the fans end that this happened
But its still boils down to Anycolor not giving any refunds to the tickets

[Anonymous No.]

>>44087623
>the problem with axia going menhera is a company problem
I fucking laughed. Is this the best you can come up with? How the fuck was it the company's fault when he decided to leave, even though many tried to convince him not to?
>The other company
That's fucking NDA

[Anonymous No.]

>>44087623
Also, I love the fact you fags treat "no refund" as some kind of evil thing that lets Anycolor earn millions that they shouldn't have.
When in reality, there wouldn't be more than five people that will give up their tickets just for a 1-min free meet and talk with their oshi that disappeared for half a year when you can attend others' and plenty of other activities. And the company should give a refund to these five people when there are hundreds of thousands of people who failed to win the ticket, or they are le bad.
Keep pushing this narrative, it's funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44084581
??
Just look at >>44083770
Niji EN is about a quarter of Anycolor's revenue, and Cover's revenue is <5% less than Anycolor's
Remove niji EN, and of course Cover will have more revenue
Unless you're confusing sales with profit

Anyway, at the rate things are going, unless niji JP can pick up the slack or niji EN stops their bleeding, I don't see Anycolor growing this year
For Cover, holo EN is also bleeding but not as badly as niji EN, and holo JP seems to still be growing (and holo ID is doing well, but they don't generate much revenue)

[Anonymous No.]

crypto daytrader reporting in, did a quick meme TA on this even though I never look at stocks

Some observations:
As you can see the daily 21 EMA (pink squiggly line) crossed below the 50 EMA (yellow squiggly line) on December 6th (highlighted by the yellow sideways arrow), following the rejection of the price below the 21 on December 1st (shown by the first white arrow to the downside), signaling the establishment of this severe downtrend that's been continuing ever since.

Since then there have been two rejections of the 21, on January 12th and Feb 21st. Those were both attempts at recovery that were rejected by the bears.

Despite having trended down for 183 days and an impressive 63% drop since ATH, the price still shows no sign of recovery beyond a bullish divergence on the RSI and MACD (the funny indicators on the bottom of the picture), which was sorta canceled after that last rejection of the 21, pushing the RSI to a lower low and the MACD to a bearish crossover today.

So from a purely technical standpoint, looking at the daily timeframe, there is still no reason to believe the price will recover soon beyond "jfc this shit has dropped a lot surely it'll bounce back at some point".

As a final nail in the coffin, we can see that the price has dropped below the latest sloped support (bottom slanted white line).

For the sentiment to turn bullish you'd need to wait at least for the price to break and establish support above the 21, and I wouldn't even start considering a long before a support was found above the last swing rejection of Feb 21st. But there is a lot of resistance on the way, which I'll touch upon in my next post.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking closer at the latest price action on the hourly timeframe, we can see that the price has retested both the sloped support mentioned above and the hourly 21 EMA, and was rejected hard out of that structure with a big engulfing bearish candle (the latest big red drop).

The price is now in a neutral pattern which occurs very frequently following a breakout of a major structure. If it can recover in the next hours / days and close back inside the falling wedge, it could be the first step toward a major recovery. It would then need to close above the major sloped resistance (the top-most white line) in the following days to signal the start of a potential rally, which is what this kind of pattern often results in. But such a breakout would likely be preceded by a few more bounces up and down within that wedge.

However if the current support breaks (the little white line below the price) and today's low was taken out, one could be tempted to enter a short position as this would likely cement this pattern as a continuation to the downside. The main danger to keep on eye on in this case would be a bounce off a parallel support to the sloped resistance (which I haven't drawn on this picture for the sake of clarity but can very much be in the cards as the swing lows from Jan 30th and Feb 27th seem to be forming a channel support).

In any case I personally wouldn't short this thing either as it's currently pretty risky either way. The safer play would be to wait for confirmation of a recovery, but that could take a long while.

Thanks for coming to my free introduction to TA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088332
Just do the basic math anon
Cover 1st quarter - 3,601
Anycolor 1st quarter - 5,961 - NijiEN 1,630 = 4,331
Cover 2nd quarter - 4,190
Anycolor 2nd quarter - 6,042 - NijiEN 1,449 = 4,593
You can delete NijiEN from existence and Anycolor still brings in more revenue than HoloJP, HoloEN, HoloID and Holostars combined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088332
>I don't see Anycolor growing this year
I personally will disagree with this statement, but we will find out on March 15th with their Q3 report anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44087732
he didn't say it was the company's fault he decided to leave, no one cares about that, he said it's the company problem which true no matter how you try to twist it and your defense to justify them no giving refund is just "they are just small portion and maybe there is only 5 people would get a refund" completely irrelevant, they can just give a refund and surely it won't matter to them if it's only a few people

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088587
I wonder if you'll still bring this up when Q3 is released next month

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088888
Why WOULDN'T he bring it up here?
It's in response to a retard who said that Cover would be above Anycolor without NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088757
>they can just give a refund and surely it won't matter to them if it's only a few people
Then how should they deal with these five tickets? hmmm? Another lottery asking thousands of people to compete for these 5 tickets when there's a way for them to resell them and recover their loss?
You are just saying something no sane company will do and saying it is le bad when a refund clearly costs more for a highly unlikely scenario.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088333
Anon, I know you're good at investing, but #'s is way ahead of you, even with contexts and everything that Anycolor is gonna continue to bleed and stabilize at one point. Simple reason is that their shit ain't sustainable for long term growth. One example is that they keep relying on their 2018/2019 for big numbers while 2020-2023 talents are down in the dumps with the only hope of lauren, salome, luxiem to pick up the torch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089105
>Then how should they deal with these five tickets?
refunding them would be a start

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088333
>crypto daytrader reporting in
wow we've got a real expert

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089105
>You are just saying something no sane company will do
Didnt cover refund people during the rushia thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089066
nigger he literally posts that every thread umprompted. Look at this shit, it's like he's paid to do so

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089113
>but #'s is way ahead of you
This has to be the funnist joke on this board
>>44089203
>Rushia
>Main stage performance
>Axia
>free meet and talk via lottery

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>>44089113
>thread full of people that have been predicting nijisanji doom for the last 4 years now
>thread that seriously thought nijisanji was on the verge of bankruptcy because they had to cancel an event
>it then gets revealed that wow not only is nijisanji doing great it's far more profitable than Hololive even
It's hilarious to me that you guys think your number thread has any credibility at all. It's a bunch of morons that know nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

All this talk about Axia, why didn't you guys talk about the part where anycolor sold Axia merch two or three weeks before they announced his termination/graduation? That's dirty af, no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089246
First of all, 2/5 of those have different filenames, so they could easily be different people.
And second, how is it "umprompted" when it's literally in response to braindead numberbrony threads like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089105
>You are just saying something no sane company will do
you're basically saying no sane company will give a refund, stop embarrassing yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088587
I see the confusion
That post's text has the FY2022 revenue totals, while the picrel is also showing a couple FY2023 quarters
The FY2022 revenues are quite close (so removing niji EN definitely would result in less revenue than Cover), but Anycolor had much higher FY2023 Q1/Q2 revenue

[Anonymous No.]

>>44089551
>>44089066
>It's in response to a retard who said that Cover would be above Anycolor without NijiEN.
became
>how is it "umprompted" when it's literally in response to braindead numberbrony threads like this?

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>>44089546
Not any dirtier than Cover continuing to sell "Holofive" merch before announcing that Aloe's leaving.

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>>44089624
Your reading comprehension is terrible to the point of mental illness.

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>>44089246
>repeatedly make a thread to make fun of Nijisanji based on the stock price
>whine about someone posting proof of their success and profitability in response
lol

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>>44089661
You mean when she was harrased by nijifans?

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>>44089820
Here it comes, another narrative from /#/
This thread is literally this one guy sperg out every narrative he read from /#/. It's hilarious

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>>44089820
Yes, when we Nijichads didn't like one holobitch and just got up and decided to make her graduate.
This is actually a thing that we're capable of and certainly a thing that actually happened. It certainly wasn't bronies eating her own because her PL tweeted about wanting to become an utaite for the offpakos.

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>>44089735
the one with mental illness is someone who went full retard to justify not giving refund to those few people like it was so hard to do and no sane company will do it according to the voices in his head

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>>44089820
Kek.
> calls nijisanji a black company
Got fuvked over it, nothing personnel bitch

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>>44089774
Don't you know this is the Holoboard? You're supposed to let every brony narrative about Nijisanji flourish uncontested!

Truly, Holobrony cries out as he strikes you.

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>>44090249
>to justify not giving refund
lmao, do you even remember where the discussion started? Read >>44088122

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>>44088333
>>44088385
Your TA is probably on point I just don't think there is enough volume to create enough momentum for any kind of upswing. Especially in this market where fundamentals matter a lot and most big money is fleeing into defensive stocks and things like bonds. It will be hard to find investors for a speculative multi media stock larping as TECH.

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>>44090479
the discussion started when you call "no refund" is rrat when people talk about different event and then after you got BTFO you went full retard and doing mental gymnastic,"it's not the company problem","it's probably only 5 people"

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>>44091124
>replying to a post talking about Fantasia cancelation
>I-I mean the NijiFes
Then I apologize for not being as retarded as you numberniggers.
>their narrative of Anycolor earning dirty money via not refunding and their ignorance on Axia got BTFO'd
>YOU ARE DOING MENTAL GYMNASTIC
You guys are really funny

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>>44091452
so did they refund or not?

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>>44092246
They provide a way to resell it as the people who need a refund would be extremely few and a large amount of people would want a ticket, my dear moronic anon.

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>>44092818
so they didn't provide a refund, why is that so hard to say? this isn't a fucking press conference you don't need to pussyfoot your way around it like a fucking politician

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>>44092818
so no on the refunds

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>>44093070
he already went full retard and it's embarrassing for him so he just try to deflect everything and keep replying with same shit and calling people retard,moron etc to make him look smart or something lol

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>>44093070
>so they didn't provide a refund, why is that so hard to say?
because it paints anycolor in a bad light and with the recent bad press that they have its up to the livers fans and interns to come to here in order to "correct" the narrative

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You won’t ever surpass nijisanji holobronies. You will remain a small indie company forever and play second fiddle to the most popular livers in history HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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the 2 indei vtuber company are fighting hekhekhek!

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holobronies btfo

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>>44093070
I unironically suspect that these guys are actually paid to damage control here

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>>44100511
>paid
kek
its noor/intern kun he doesnt get paid squat

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>>44100511
Honestly I suspect hololive might be paying people to smear Nijisanji on this board. Some guy goes through the effort of making this thread to shit on Nijisanji and posting the same false narratives about Nijisanji everyday. Not sure who would do that if they weren't getting money for it.

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>>44089943
>it's a just a rrat
Why does nijisanji love to white wash?

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>>44101342
because they are getting paid for it, see >>44101327

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>>44101327
I dont know if you need to pay someone to smear Nijisanji. The EN branch basically does it to themselves on what is a weekly basis. The KR branch had a ton of drama until they were brought into the main branch, and ID is mostly save for yab free save for 1-2 big members but also has a lack of interest.

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>>44101572
Strange that holofags put so much effort into it on daily basis of they do it to themselves.

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>>44101802
It's kind of hilarious when you think about it. It's not the Nijisanji fans you see fabricating screencaps they spam hundreds of times to prove how evil Hololive fans are, it's not Nijisanji fans you see creating memes to shit on Hololive talents, it's not Nijisanji fans you see creating threads shitting on Hololive numbers day in day out. It's not Nijisanji fans making threads like this one everyday to mock the performance of the companies stock. That's all stuff hololive fans on this board do to the Nijisanji fans and then they still act like they're the victims.

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>>44102064
>nijifans doing bad stuffs
>"th-that's not nijifans!"
the amount of mental gymnastic that you are doing itself is hilarious

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>>44100511
i really hope they got paid otherwise it's just too pathetic, they even go all the way defending no refund thing, when it's just a fact but they try to make it as "anti creating false narrative" somehow, i guess their own member doing "covid" thing and their member complaining about not getting support are also anti creating false narrative, i refuse to believe there is someone this retarded

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>>44101327
there's actual proof of holobronies getting paid to smear other vtubers to make holo look good though
https://web.archive.org/web/20200930054432/https://p2y.jp/notice-of-contract-cancellation-with-some-writers/
https://web.archive.org/web/20200930003610/https://twitter.com/P2yjp/status/1311099749613805568

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>>44102064
Self-denial is strong, Nijifags were shitting on Coco, Rushia and Sana graduation. But what i expect from nijifags in denial of being cucked.

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hey i can do that too

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>>44103795
anon, you don't even read the article
He got fired just like how that dam operator was fired for watching Hololive

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Incredible thread, the purest concentration of mental illness I have ever seen.

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No you actually can't

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Pretty funny timing especially with the Mysta 21k taxes thing

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https://vtuber-matomeblog.com/2023/02/76744/
https://note.com/hanitahaniwa/n/ncef56a429fcc

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>>44104889
>>44104949
huh so nijifags also falseflagg in other places huh and its not just a vt thing

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>>44104449
you didn't read the article or the tweet and replies. Serves him right for trying to shill holo while putting others down

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>>44101327
There's an actual website that's banned from using Anycolor property because they were blatant Nijiantis constantly posting fake news about AC and Nijisanji.
They are also massive Holoshills who operate on the same principle as /#/, i.e. that CCV is everything. One of their articles from about a year ago when NeoPorte gen 1 debuted was about how NeoPorte got the same amount of "golds"(#1 daily CCV) for the month as Nijisanji and that they will surely be a worthy contestant for them. I like ShibuHal but lmao

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>>44083683
Just means that investors don't see as much growth potential in Anycolor as they did last year
Given the way their EN branch is doing, they're probably right

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Ten numberniggers standin' in a line,
One toddled home and then there were nine;
Nine numberniggers swingin' on a gate,
One tumbled off and then there were eight.

Eight numberniggers gayest under heav'n.
One went to sleep and then there were seven;
Seven numberniggers cuttin' up their tricks,
One broke his neck and then there were six.

Six numberniggers all alive,
One kicked the bucket and then there were five;
Five numberniggers on a cellar door,
One tumbled in and then there were four.

Four numberniggers up on a spree,
One got fuddled and then there were three;
Three numberniggers out on a canoe,
One tumbled overboard and then there were two

Two numberniggers foolin' with a gun,
One shot t'other and then there was one;
One numbernigger livin' all alone,
He got married and then there were none.

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>>44083683
now what?

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>>44107497
-vtubing as a whole going down
-each Nijisanji new wave less popular than the previous
-this is on top of Nijisanji dramas
Yep if i was an investor i would cash out some if not all while it is still worth something

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Why do we have this same thread every day with the same exact shit being reported
>Posts picture of stock
>Explanation in thread that stock markets are shit and stock was overvalued
>Picture of side by side comparison showcases that despite stock price ac is doing better than ever
>nothing else of value is posted but the thread gets bumped every time it reaches page 10
This has literally been the same for the past month

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>>44114998
The only stats that matter to /#/iggers are the ones that show Cover doing well and Anycolor doing bad, regardless of context.
It's why they cared so much about SC when Coco and Rushia were dominating, but stopped when Luxiem took over, why they still act like CCV is king, and why they cling so desperately to Anycolor's stock.

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>>44115728
It must be a real shock of cognitive dissonance for those drinking the kool aid to finally be able in to see in black and white that Anycolor is actually a more successful company than Cover despite all the crawing about how Hololive is so big and makes so much money while Nijisanji is pathetic and on the verge of bankruptcy for years.

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>>44116226
When you think about it though from your typical western fans point of view theres no real reason to doubt that narrative. Hololive is undoubtedly more famous internationally. So it would seem natural to you that they must be the more successful company. People bringing up how Nijsanji is strong domestically in Japan would just seem like some kind of odd contrarians jealous of the success of Hololive, despite in fact being right all along.

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>>44115728
>It's why they cared so much about SC when Coco and Rushia were dominating

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>>44117029
Yeah the typical numberfag poster back in those days used to call that a load of cope and hold that only superchats mattered.

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>>44117142
wasnt that before the merch numbers got leaked from the website and people saw sc was nothing compared to merch?
on the holo side anyway and not nijisanji considering their livers dont get that much of a share in merch sales

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>>44117286
From a business perspective it was already provable that merch made a lot more than superchats. You had Anycolor releasing a Blu-ray of their concert and the sales of the discs making multiple millions for one item. But nobody really cared about that because it didn't show Hololive doing well. Only when you could see hololive's merch numbers did it suddenly become relevant and widely accepted that merchandise was significant.

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>>44117839
you forget that people were also comparing how much each liver/talent got with the merch share anon but then again you dont want to bring that up since anycolor has a bad rack record of those and it sadly still rings true even today with mysta and his 21k tax comment

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>>44117975
I see people are already spreading that misinformation.

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>>44116623
It wouldn't even be the only thing that's huge in Japan, but not so much everywhere else.
LINE, Doraemon, and NND(at least in the 2000s and early 2010s) come to mind.

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>>44118106
how is it misinformation when even just calculating his dec 21 jan 22 and feb 22 sc didnt match up with his tax earnings?

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>>44118188
Why would it match up? They earn more than just superchat.

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>>44118238
it didnt match up since the tax they had was lower than their estimated sc earnings during that month
and thats only counting sc earnings anon

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>>44118335
That's normal an expected anon. I feel like you're confused. YouTube takes a cut of all superchat revenue and the Anycolor takes a cut of superchat revenue. The same thing happens in Hololive too.

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>>44118570
it was after the cuts
thats if we assume niji gets the 30% cut and not lower

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>>44118661
I think you're mistaken.
Mysta SC
Jan - $49,718
Feb - $39,285
Mar - $56,135
Total - $145,138
-$43,541.40 for 30% youtube
$101,596.6 divide by 2 under the assumption its split 50/50
$50,798.3 or roughly £45,065 income from superchat in 3 months. That would be around £10k in taxes. So to make it up 21k he will have earned an additional 40k or so from other sources.

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>>44118741
Total earnings
£70,000
Tax to pay
£20,854
£15,432 income tax
£5,422 class 1 National Insurance
What you're left with
£49,146
that would imply he only earned 30k in the other 9 months
seems more likely that the cut is a lot bigger than the standard 50/50 cut

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>>44118914
That extra money isn't coming from the other 9 months anon. It's those same 3 months, other money earned from memberships, voice packs, merch sales, ad revenues etc. Mysta was a jobless NEET before Nijisanji.

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>>44119131
>Mysta was a jobless NEET before Nijisanji.
if you did your reps you know that isnt the case anon

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>>44119229
Literally just making shit up now.

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>>44119229
He was a literal poorfag who barely got by.

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>>44119282
>>44119312
unironically do better and deeper reps

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>>44083770
That's pretty small when you consider that Nijisanji has close to 200~300 vtubers while Hololive has like less or more than 100.

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>>44119349
Unironically just making shit up to try and bolster your shoddy narrative.

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>>44119349
UK resident here.
You must be thick if you really expect me to believe that a flip with a cockney accent was anything but lower class.

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>>44119437
>is to retarded to do his reps
if the jannies were not so keen in handing out vacations everytime you talk about it id tell you the ways and give you links of how he bamboozled you with the poorfag lie
the fact that he and his family is where he is and how much land they had back in flipland even before luxiem kinda shows that he was anything but poor, not rich but definitenly not the poofag that he is claiming to be
>>44119606
UK's top earners have been people that come from outside britain anon or migrated there
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/sep/20/about-a-quarter-of-the-uks-top-earners-are-migrants-data-shows#:~:text=In%20the%20top%200.001%25%20of,if%20incomes%20were%20distributed%20evenly.

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>>44119606
There is absolutely 0 chance Mysta has ever had any kind of job that payed a 40k yearly salary at minimum to have earned that much in the previous 9 months. And it certainly isn't money that came from his streaming.

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>>44119691
You do realize that having affluent parents doesn't stop people from having low income themselves, right?
If anything, it just lets you leech off of them while you make nothing yourself.

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>>44119915
that usually happens in the 3rd gen

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>>44107497
The type of investors who would buy into Nijisanji are either the true believers, the employees who owned stocks pre IPO and retail looking for a 10x stock.

The most likely cause for the price dumping is employees and ANYKARA redeeming followed by shortsellers.

The issue with future stock growth
>is well we are in a global recession so markets are skeptical of anything new. >Vtubing as a whole is also a very new and a volatile business making it extremely risky.
>Nijisanji is the first public vtubing company correct me if I am wrong and it is hard to determine the value of such a company
>the future of vtubing in the long term is very unclear
>in general there just isn't a lot of data

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>>44119719
If Mysta was working any job during that period its going to be some minimum wage bullshit service sector wank. Not a decent job that could get you to a salary like £40-50k a year. Yeah I am still fully in the camp that the extra money is money earned in those 3 months at Nijisanji.

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>>44083683
don't get it

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>>44083770
Nijisanji has like 4 times the streamers and barely pulls in twice the revenue. Nice.

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>>44125628
>twice
Less than that even

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>>44083770
the power of merch