/warkop/ - Warung Kopi

[Anonymous No.]

Otsu Awoona Edition

>What is /warkop/ about?
A place to chill and talk in-depth about behind the scenes of Indonesian VTubers in general. We also talk about the Indonesian VTuber market, whether it be rumors, numbers, demographics, auditions, debuts, graduations, etc.

Resource:
https://vtuber.asia

Previous thread: >>43119718

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Some news we missed yesterdey when we were in Deidex mood

>AKA's Fre new model teased
It'll be unveiled somewhere this month
https://twitter.com/Frederett_/status/1626174686039277568

>New orisongs to enjoy
I like to shill orisongs here and I just heard we got one from Aspira titled 3 Dunia, which is as the title said it's a trilingual EN-ID-JP song so cekidot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCBtpX8DxY0

There's also another orisong debuting tomorrow from Metanoia's Janu htitled Belenggu here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuwebC_rK68

>CUPANG 3D HYP!
Today's a big day imo for IDchuubas and /warkop/ since our very own /here/ Cupang will finally get her 3D faster than Hana Macchia tonight so let's support her and check out wtf she has in store for us!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWJipSGPeX4

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https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1626208545514598400
>Acrylic awards
>Orisong
>Merchs
Wdyt about the upcoming Kureiji Arcade and how zoombie goes all out into them? Her prep looking insane for just muh APEX

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>>43231428
i just wish everyting goes right this time, fuck the haters, let this girl be happy for once

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https://twitter.com/astelicakasdea/status/1626424250956681217

Inb4 graduate announcement and return as ID4 member

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((MASS GRADUATION FEBRUARY)))

for whatever the reason

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>>43232956
Something that happened 2 months ago but wtf is could be?

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hello guys, whats the thread for Hololive AI interaction in /vt ?

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>>43235288
i bet $5 it's the deidey drama

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>>43233129
Niji-exID mass graduation will happen this summer. My grandfather told me so in my dream.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nylY1rsAIHw
Just got the waiting room for tonight's grad, which is also doubles as a birthday stream, man...

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>>43229526
I'll post the numbers here. Credit to the Table Anon from /#/ for the ID-only table. Other local corpos numbers will also be up from me soon.

Take away from Table Anon (>>43197796):

>HoloID reigns supreme
>Mika is the strongest NijiID
>Mythia Batford is the second strongest non Holo ID after Mika
>NjiID is split between those stuck in 2 views hell and those stuck in 3 views hell
>MAHA5 splits those two groups in half

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>>43240135 (me)
Here are the numbers from some of the local chuubas here. Please note that this is due to the limit of the Playboard free account so I just take some chuubas as the sample, especially for AKA Virtual.

Some context:
>Reynard isn't there because he only streamed once on the period of 1st Feb. until 15 Feb. and his average CCV is below 100
>Cupang numbers are quite high due to her IRL streams in Japan
>Amarynn is still carried by those Minecraft bocils
>While Rora's number is below KKM (<100 Avg. CCV), her hybrid stream debut two days ago generated numbers (Peak CCV: 300, Avg. CCV: 161)

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https://www.anycolor.co.jp/news/w2n8l9pmz1

Man, it's been a year huh

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>>43241614
>Untuk memperkuat support kami ke seluruh grup, dan membangun sistem yang lebih efisien, kedua proyek tersebut akan digabung ke dalam proyek “NIJISANJI” dan melanjutkan kegiatan VTuber mereka di bawah satu nama, “NIJISANJI”.
What a load of bullshit

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>>43241614
Speaking of this, do we have to worry about holoID now that cover is ded set to follow anyc and go public?

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>>43242113
Nah there's still the shitters that is homostars

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>>43242113
Now COVER is going public for real, I think HoloID will be okay if you look at the numbers above.

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>>43243172
Oh, never mind. People said it's Series B funding and not IPO. It'll be great if someone /here/ can explain the differences because I'm thinking people who play Forex around me are just gambling.

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>>43243487
Series B funding is a type of investment that a startup company can receive in order to grow and expand its business. It typically occurs after the initial startup phase, once the company has achieved some level of success and demonstrated its potential for growth.

During a Series B funding round, the company will seek to raise additional capital from investors in exchange for equity or ownership in the company. The funds raised in a Series B round are typically used to further develop the product or service, expand the team, and scale the business.

In order to secure a Series B investment, a startup will need to have a solid track record of growth and a clear plan for future expansion. This may include having a successful product or service, a strong team with relevant experience, and a strategy for entering new markets or expanding the customer base.

Series B investments are typically larger than the earlier rounds of funding, such as seed and Series A rounds, and may involve a more extensive due diligence process by investors. The investors who participate in a Series B round are often venture capitalists, private equity firms, and institutional investors who are looking for promising startups with the potential for high growth and a significant return on their investment.

Overall, Series B funding is an important step for a startup that has achieved some level of success and is looking to take the next step towards growth and expansion. It can provide the capital needed to develop and scale the business, while also bringing in experienced investors who can offer guidance and support.

>tl;dr
not publicly traded, cover still choose which company/investor they will take. Most likely they're going to use the capital for their multimedia project or their merchandising supply line/distribution

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>>43235362
/wAIfu/ or /VTAI/

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>>43243737
Thanks for the information. Interesting points for me are:

>During a Series B funding round, the company will seek to raise additional capital from investors in exchange for equity or ownership in the company.
>The investors who participate in a Series B round are often venture capitalists, private equity firms, and institutional investors who are looking for promising startups with the potential for high growth and a significant return on their investment.
>It can provide the capital needed to develop and scale the business, while also bringing in experienced investors who can offer guidance and support.

So... What can we expect from Hololive and Holostars in terms of the quality of their entertainment?
Also, do Chindos have an interest to buy COVER's stocks?

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>>43244135
>quality of entertainment
Honestly, idk. My idea is for them to reinvest the surge of fresh new cash to their holoearth, holoalt, and put up warehouses for their physical merchandise. The entertainment factor that the talent provide to us should never be disrupted by shareholder.
>spoiler
would be funny if CT corp is interested in investing cover

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>>43244365
I'm checking it out with others and they told me that cover's masterplan is to have a 2nd studio

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>>43244641
based if true. they need that the most

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>>43231635
Don't worry she still has support.
Girl move on her own pace.
Haters will always exist no matter you try so hard to satiate them.

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>>43232956
What with overdramatic posting.

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>>43240135
>>43240653
Poor Bonbon

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>>43243737
I hope Elon Musk went full weeb and funding Hololive.

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>>43245894
Where has he been anyway? His last stream was almost a month ago but upon checking his twitter he's still a bit active there?

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So... What do (you) want for Hololive girls if you have your share in YAGOO's company, Awanama?

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>>43246117
well the only one who could decide anything is the one with larger share
and if i have 51% of cover stock, i will bring back the grad girls only for cameo in holofes event

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>>43246095
Dude deserves better. I hope he became HolostarID

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>>43247090
>i will bring back the grad girls only for cameo in holofes event
The legal stuff is very complicated. Especially if they got employed in other agency.

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>>43246117
I want the HoloID to become Indonesian tourism ambassadors. Then find more local sponsorship or Japanese companies with products in Indonesia. Imagine Moona promoting Pocari Sweat or Risu promoting You-C 1000.

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>>43243737
Thanks for the explanation, /biz/raeli

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>>43246117
Force them to fund a sololive for risu

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>>43247107
He gave up streaming as bobon?

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>>43240653
Consider adding some indies like Harris. Here's his stats:
https://twitter.com/HarrisCainee/status/1626231760727195649
https://twitter.com/HarrisCainee/status/1625472914308075522
https://twitter.com/HarrisCainee/status/1623688581972922368

/warkop/ slept on Harris for too long because none of us watches him and the femanons didn't like Harris. He's very promising number-wise. His TikTok also have good numbers.

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>>43247452
>4views
Wow that's nice. Any qrd about him like what kind of vtuber he is, his circle, etc.?

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>>43247489
Pretty sure that's his VOD views and not peak ccv. The peak concurrents one is his actual peak ccv. Still impressive tho for an indie

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>>43247438
I don't think so. But with so many livers getting neglected I think he's one of the neglected one because he's not a pretty boy/fujobait and his audience is similar to Vesper.
To think about it, maybe he and Vesper can be good friend.

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>>43247489
Not in any particular "circle" afaik? He started gaining attention on TikTok from last year from his ASMR contents. From there, he debuted as a VTuber 2 months ago on YouTube. To be honest, I would compare him to NijiEN males in terms of appeal and content. Try checking this stream: https://www.youtube.com/live/fhuw6jvix9g
>>43247588
I'm optimistic he's going to reach >500 CCV in a few months. He found his niche, lean towards it, and is good at it.

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>>43247693
POACH HIM TO STARS ID!!!!

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Kawi Nanyea?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0JCuiQMWqE

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>>43243737
basically this
>>43248575

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I was trying to archive hyona the last day but yt-dlp went apeshit. looks like youtube is changing stuff.

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>>43247452
Noted. I'll check his numbers later due to Playboard's limit. Thank you!

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>learn japanese with Rorang (@muse)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaLbkuivu0s?feature=share

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>>43249055
Yeah I knew it. Their distribution and supply line is literally their biggest problem right now especially with the changes of shipping rate that happened few months ago. By investing in warehouses in a strategic location, they can circumvent loss in potential sales with cheaper goods and cheaper shipping rate. Especially considering the fact that merchandising is their 2nd highest form of revenue.

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>>43230488
WATCH CUPANG 3D NOW
WATCH CUPANG 3D NOW
WATCH CUPANG 3D NOW
WATCH CUPANG 3D NOW
WATCH CUPANG 3D NOW

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https://twitter.com/TenchaDarleeng/status/1626525302699757568
Heads up, Tencha Darjeeling will debut next Friday. For your information, she's Matcha Mei.

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>>43250978
AIRI RAIDED BY ALENKA

AKA - DIGIKAGI FUSION

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>first AKA ID 3D debut
>AKA's cable got broken by Cupang
Nice one you guys

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LOOK AT HER GO

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>>43250978
where the 3D stage????

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>>43251481
We're still at preamble, anon. Patience

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>>43251481
Seems like she wants to show her 3D L2Ds first

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kek

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>>43251579
Isn't cupang a freshwater fish? How comes can she swims at the sea?

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>>43247222
>Moona promoting Pocari Sweat
Might be more plausible thank you think, since the last major commercial for ID is full on weeb with that knock-off Shinkai anime
>Risu promoting You-C 1000
Now this, on the other hand, is a little bit hard. AFAIK their commercials always use beauty pageants as their brand ambassador, and never use something with weeb aesthetics in their promotion materials

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>>43251648
She's a Hybrid Cupang. Don't worry about her.

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This is more scuffed than I thought lemao

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>>43252095
I remember an anon /here/ think the home3D set that Nene used is better than AKA's studio 3D. Now I can see his point

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WTF?

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Oh it's back

[Anonymous No.]

>Imagine going all the way to JP just for twister torture
Airi "Cupang" Cordelia, 2023-probably

[Anonymous No.]

>No kayang
Disappointed

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>>43252980
APOLOGIZE TO CUPANG

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>>43252886
Hey, at least she had a good time there, or so it seems.

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>Why's my ass so beeg yet so smol
So it is beeg or is it smol Cupang?

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>Bringing home the Mocopi for Home 3D stream

Not bad, Cupang. Not bad at all

[Anonymous No.]

That's quite of a showcase lel, thx Cupang

Anyways I'm redirecting to >>43239150
The one who'll grad on her birthday, yikes

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So... What do you think about her showcase? Any rate?

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>>43255612
I don't think I need to rate it when Cupang herself will rate it Scuffed/10
https://twitter.com/AiriCordelia/status/1626559220077457409?s=20

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>>43255612
I second this >>43255767

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[Anonymous No.]

>>43257217
this green ui need to be corrected!!

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https://www.twitch.tv/xsmilia

Betina hunting simulator stream

I'm holding back so much to throw the "makan kadal" reference on chat, rumao

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>>43249055
Funny how this is what Niji envisioned back when they entered ID, to see their localization vision finalized by their rivals sounds very ironic

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>>43260980
Perhaps ex-ID is too early for their time. Or we can blame Anycolor's shit overseas reach.

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>>43249055
>That last point
Basically ID2. It's good for the short term, but in the long run, it's not reliable at all. Also, I don't think this will apply to Kaela. Yes, she probably will recline after EN3, but she has a big, loyal cult following even before she inclines.

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>>43260980
they lack CUTENESS and escapism factor that hololive provide. Hololive members also provide actual warmth and peace when you consume their content.

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>>43232956
IT'S /warkop/ SCREENSHOTS AGAIN. WORSE, IT'S STILL RELATED TO DEISEX DRAMA IN THE PAST.
https://twitter.com/astelicakasdea/status/1626578676958781442

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>>43266097
Halah pantek.
Who the fuck keep bringing it up again. 4chan being too prevalent in vtubing community is a mistake. Even in ID.

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>>43266492
>4chan being too prevalent in vtubing community
Because it's anonymous and everywhere else is a hugbox except maybe the farm and asylum

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>>43266097 (me)
Okay, I already read her thread. Still, I need someone /here/ to proofread her thread, because it's almost midnight so I'm not sure about my brain ability. So, Astelica...

>the starting point of her thread is >>39072832 and <span class="deadlink">>>39056153</span>
>has personal problems with Deidey and fight with her
>Deidey asked to end the fight, but she's too menhera for that
>she told her closest friends
>she GAVE THE SCREENSHOTS that were uploaded in the past thread against Deidey
>from this, my brain at almost midnight processing whether she's the one who uploaded it on 4chan or it's from her friends who also have grudges with Deidey that got the screenshots from her
>some of the screenshots aren't related to her
>apparently, she's also searching for the screenshot that mentioned Cupang >>39122459

So, at least (you) know the original source of some (not all) screenshots you saw in the past. It's from her.

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If I had a nickel for every time Biittertaste's children put the /warkop/ screenshots on Twitter, I would have two nickels. That's not a lot, but it's funny that IT HAPPENED TWICE.

What's next? Someone airing Komandan's dirty laundry on /warkop/?

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>>43266959
>tfw the Warukovi/Mine's circle accusation is not real all along
I may have fucked with making that thread in the first place, but I am not a proxy for a bunch of VTubers.

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>>43267154
>Silvia is actually not tsundere irl

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>>43267299
She talked shit about some of her viewers behind the scene because she doesn't like some of the MediaShare content that is shared with her. Also, she's tired of being gaslighted as a Tsundere.

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>>43267259
I would say that Deidey itself who dragging them by talking shit about some of them, based on the screenshot that is pointed out by Astelica. Still, I have to re-read that past thread.

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>>43267562
Is it fair to say that both of them are problematic in this case? I have nothing else to conclude from the whole problem, to be honest. I hope people won't accuse me of being told by VTubers to start drama here anymore, kek. I want to go back to Mitiposting.

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Have a good night, /warkop/.

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>>43267799
Warukovi circle become the very thing they talked about.
https://youtu.be/Hrc1y1eQyZY?t=510
https://youtu.be/pGcEP2nd0s0?t=550

That's why I don't mind when someone else airs another's dirty laundry. Unless it's a serious one like sexual harassment or local chuubas killed herself due to bullying as a VTuber, I'll just let it pass and not disgusted by it.

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https://www.youtube.com/live/UMLFNLo-7_Q?feature=share

shes still streaming gesss, come visit right now

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oRvMtotw3gM

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>>43267562
When I first saw Deidey in /warkop/ OP's post, I was neutral but after anon posted her discord screenshot leaks, I want to give corrections to her.
I became a Deisex poster.

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>>43268093
>he

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>>43267799
https://twitter.com/MineRose_id/status/1626599085791936515
>I am grateful you made me saw the black side of someone I truly support before it's too late..

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>>43268410
Might as well throw Astelica into the sex chamber too. Imagine the hatefuck.

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>>43268565
Every chuuba that mentions /warkop/ directly in many ways deserves to be dragged into the sex dungeon. That's the bottom line.

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>>43268541
>women just being women
classic kek

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>>43268676
I'm going to hatefuck Mine and none of you could stop me. Onwards!

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>>43268541
>Di 4chan ada ss yang tersebar dengan namanya terlihat, tetapi threadnya sudah hilang. Aku sudah berusaha mencari tapi tidak ada.
Damn newfag should stay out of here if they can't handle the environment. Did she think 4chan is facebook or something

[Anonymous No.]

Let's update /warkop/ Hall of Fame (or Shame)

From >>39204673
>Ayunda Risu, /here/ since Day 1
>Airi Cordelia, tweeted about /warkop/ since apparently me, as the OP, talked too much of her
>Valrius Sinica, of course he's here
>Minerva Rosaline, said hi to /warkop/ after I wished Mine or Miti to not notice /warkop/ at all
>Aleph Iota, streamed /warkop/ VTL3 watchalongs
>Caerula Aki, friends with Valrius, apparently aware of 4chan (and subsequently /warkop/)
>Deidey, THIS THREAD (>>39043212)

Now, let's welcome Astelica Kasdea. Say something to her, assuming she's reading this thread.

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>>43269050
Anon, half of /vt/ don't even know how to search using the hash.
I'm tired of dealing with them and ignore them now.
They believe the hash is gibberish because they get nothing from Google.
Some of them think that a hash (code) is a hash tag.

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>>43269310
I think Ollie was here too.
If I'm not wrong, someone also said that Reine was here too, although I'm not sure if I remember it incorrectly or it's just a rrat.

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Ego searching is dangerous for public figure's mental health. That's why big corpos told their talents to keep it to twitter only, or to toxic positive place like reddit.
Indies with no mental capacity as big as Risu should follow the same rule.

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>>43269541
While we're at it, let's add VRchama.
https://twitter.com/VRchama/status/1626631214185713667?t=jBTJ8iI4xAtBPGYG3y3wKw&s=19

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>>43269541
Moona is also so painfully here so much that her new mascot's name and first design even came from /moon/

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>>43266492
I don't think things would be better if it's kikebook or leddit were in 4chin's place

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>>43266097
is this some kind of high school drama?
wtf is this
i do enjoy drama, but atleast vshoujo or niji drama tier
but this??? how old are these people?

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>>43272416
I never closely follow EN indie scene but from some few posts /here/ that catch my eyes, their drama isn't any better than ours

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>>43257217
I wonder if anyone has ever posted Chloe on catalogue just to see if /vt/ anons will mistake her for Ui kek

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>>43273644
Yes there is I think I stumbled upon it several times. You can try to look at the archives for that

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>>43273957
Oh wow, somehow I managed to miss them everytime... also searching for Ui raep posts in archives is kind of hard... oh well

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>>43269406
>Don't know how to search using hash
What? It isn't even that complicated at all

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>>43275065
You overestimate the zoomers.

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Don't die

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>>43277496
B-but..

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>>43272416
the usual catfight of girls.

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>>43272109
https://twitter.com/EpelEvelyn/status/1626553800290103297
Epel after Epelables and even Yopi mistook her shill tweet for >>43239150 as her own grad be like

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>>43280796
I don't watch her often but I got so sad to watch the tweet. I thought ID will lose its last pioneer (unless Maya is back for real), turns out she was just being pon as usual.

Or I imagine it's all according to plan and she laughed after sending the tweet, hihohihohi

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>>43251845
lol Yayasan Putri Indonesia don't send someone for this year's Miss Universe.

[Anonymous No.]

Warkop bros why most vtuber never use religion words for swearing? Legit I only ever hear those words from Hana, siska, miyu, andi, alia and kobo. Why they hate those word so much, I always think it's funny when Hana screaming Jesus or when kobo saying istighfar despite already known as Christian.

Also is the other vtuber who doing this outside that I already mentioned above?

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BANGUN WOY!

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>>43285140
There's a theory that Kobo came from mixed religion parents.
Also why you so focused on religion anyway? Are you sure you're Indonesian? So far only Americans so obsessed with atheism.

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>>43285140
Your only hope is in small indie since bigger one or corpos know our religionfags are as bad as our /pol/niggers so I think they tend to avoid that in case things go south (I remember Reine several times stop herself from saying "Ya Allah")
>>43287951
>Theory
Anonchama, Kobo personally said that herself...

[Anonymous No.]

being focused on religion is on brand for an indonesian

[Anonymous No.]

>>43285140
SARA, anon. Don't frame it as if they hate religion, no. It's just that religion is sensitive, therefore they don't want to mention it at all.

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>>43285140
>Also is the other vtuber who doing this outside that I already mentioned above?
i think i heard risu screaming Jesus a few time, iofi and ollie also saying "ya tuhan" a few time if that counts. For niji I believe also bobon simmiliar with hana. I think it's save to say that most vtuber are not religious person because because most weebs are degenerate, well it's much better wibu rohis chubba anyway

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>>43289609
this is wrong and have been proven by kobo. she could saying tuhan jesus and astagfirullah next to each other without getting canceled. windah also did the same on daily basis even adding kontol between those two but he still the biggest streamer in ID

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>>43291697
Most VTubers avoids mentioning real-life subjects, and that includes religions in any form. That layer of ambiguity is good as VTubing can be seen as a neutral platform. Keeping yourself from spouting "Ya Allah" or "Astaghfirullah" is hard, but I don't hate VTubers who do so. It's just that, the industry standard expects you to not do such thing too often (unless you're a religious VTuber to begin with).

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Sundul

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>>43292712
Indonesia.... we claim that we're tolerant but I felt that we're a high pressure stove ready to explode.
People aren't allowed to complaint, even online. This led to many pent up anger that will led to explosion of anger.
I mean look at Sambo case. People finally let out their grievances and years of reputation fixing was undone for.
We live in a country full of hypocrites.

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>>43289609
You're the one that overly sensitive considering we already know how people react to this.

It's mostly about keeping your identity a secret, the same reason why no holos (and probably also most big corpos) would ever said that they're a Javanese, Chinese, etc, despite you can clearly tell from their accent.

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>>43298913
Indonesia will become Balkan 2.0. We need someone to be stuffed with a glass bottle in their rear. Then war crime electrical boogaloo 2 just like in Timor.

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is there any ID vtuber circle that hate holoid or hololive in general? most of them have atleast a holo oshi or just play it safe

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>>43300429
i doubt so when a lot of them knows VTubers from Hololive

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>>43300429
ex-NijiID circle

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>>43289111
>our religionfags are as bad as our /pol/niggers
There's already a discussion of this a million times on early /ehe/ when it's still full of Indonesian. Unless you're actually said something that're insulting, or you're a politician, it's really just a nothingburger. There are way more concernfags that overthinks everything (probably because they're out touch with real Indonesian outside if the internet) than actual insensitive people. Kobo's multiple "double religion " moments is still there, uncut, despite everyones saying that it will get cut.

Other than Kobo, ID1 mentioned something religion-related too a decent amount, and everything is fine (except that infamous Moona tweet, and that's understandable why). We live in a country where you officially by law must have a religion. "Nyebut" is a common thing in every part of your life.

I think ID2 might have a unique case since other than local fans, they also have a big western fans, so i won't be surprised if they avoid it since a lot of westerners also hate moslem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43298913
>Indonesia
>tolerant
Tell that to Faggots, Kikes, and Trannies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43285140
Epel once double religion swear like 'astaghfirulla-eeehh! Jesus Christ oh my God'

[Anonymous No.]

>>43298913
Well like it or not, less than 100 years ago most of us are just monkeys without education. People said something like "Kalau mayoritas orang Indo bisa bla bla bla, kita udah negara maju". Well yeah, they can say that because they're, most likely, people that got good education. This is the same mentality that Ollie shown at her infamous rant.

I think we can change that, albeit slowly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43281299
>tweet
She just pon. Look how long she took time to realized that her tweet lead to misleading kek
She's dumb sometimes, but i love this dumb girl so much lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>43300742
wdym? they collab alot

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>>43301265
To be honest, my opinion on faggots doesn't improve with Silvervale and Froot drama. It becomes even worse. Interacting with people who put their feelings as supreme unlike religious people is like playing with fire. Strange things tend to happen and it'll burn you if you're involved with that kind of people, like Silvervale, or EN VTuber who plays that wizard game, or any VTuber who says the n-word and then gets canceled.

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>>43291231
Saying "Ya Allah" or "Tuhan Yesus" doesn't mean you're religious, anon. It's a swear word. A lot of atheists from western countries still say "Jesus Christ!" if they're shocked by something, even if they're not religious at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43301866
You'll never know anon, you'll never know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43266097
Nice, new target for hornyposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>43301983
check their alts anon, they're closer than what we've seen

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>>43300766
>Overthink
Read again I said if things go south. If it's just normal bantz, they would be alright and from what I saw, most of them just don't want to take the risk
>>43301881
On one hand, I wish this harassment campaign by troons will open their eyes how horrible HRT can do to someone's mind and stop putting them on the pedestal but on the other hand, I feel pessimistic knowing their cuck mindset

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>>43298913
From what I see, liberal-leaning Outdonesian scholars still have some faith that Indonesia is indeed tolerant in terms of religious life. If you said otherwise due to your bias and personal experience, well, I can say that Indonesia is still a tolerant country based on my bias and personal experience, too.

My personal experience? Christians and Muslims in my ancestral land (somewhere in North Sumatra) are still living harmoniously as if whatever happened in Jakarta doesn't bother them. That's why I'm thinking "it must be urbanoids seething" every time I see local people seething about religious people out of nowhere.

>>43302816
I wish that troons will find that putting your feelings supreme above others at any time for everyone else is just not a good idea to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43302341
Even better, it's another Biittertaste child. Now, just wait until Komandan mentions this place out of nowhere for whatever reason.

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>>43302816
>I said if things go south
Yes, that's exactly what i mean by overthinks or concernfagging. The original post literally just said about religion-based swearing, not some kind of edgy jokes. "Don't say that, people would use it to hate you!!", "Delete the clip!", etc. The only thing that happened is those concernfags (who don't have a problem with what being said) fighting with another fans that also don't have any problem.

It's understandable if you want to evade the risk especially if you're the type of person that often makes actual sensitive joke (again, like that Moona's tweet). But the main reason Kobo get away from that was because she told her chat "jangan lebay" when everyones are concernfagging that she should not say that in case everyones use it to attack her. If you use "in case things go south" all the time, there won't be any room for anything anymore. That's why you need a proper research for what generally accepted and what not.

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>>43270892
>Conveniently memory-holed simpthiaOP
>Praising warkop and dunking kikebook
>Many anon
Oh really, VRchama? 'many' is an overstatement if it's not the majority. Am i the majority of warkop? I don't believe that I'm the majority of warkop. anons believed the Deidey rrat and dunked her for a day, including simpthiaOP. People didn't even questioning it, because they trusted and sucked the cock of simpthiaOP. Warkop is not innocent, it's as worse as kikebook. It baffles me that he would use that for his elitism against kikebook and thinks that warkop is 'better'
t. Andi Kururu femanon

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>>43304362
>Proper research
Why should they? I mean if they can avoid potential shit shows by just avoiding using religious swear on stream, is it really worth it for them to spend their energy on that? Not to mention you just mentioned Moona's drama then you should know better why some of them have some kind of reluctance to touch the subject.
>Kobo
Can't you tell she's built different? Her mindset and the way she treats her viewers is also unique. I mean even Kobo at her menhera phase is still better than most chuubas when they feel entitled to reprimand their fans
>>43303206
>Jakarta
Inter-religion relationship in Jakarta among its citizens is also good actually what are you talking about? Then again if you paid attention to how the higher-ups try to bend the narrative, I think it's deliberately manufactured to be shown like that. The motive, however, is beyond me
>B-but 212
That's a political movement first of all more than anything that also got criticized among its own (no I'm not talking about islam ktp here) but to discuss it further will make this post oot so let's leave it at there
>Troons and superiority complex
2bh this is good. It would be more dangerous If they play their card calmly and patiently like how faggots are in the west
>>43305639
Oh hi Mine. Happy weekend!

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>>43305639
>anons believed the Deidey rrat and dunked her for a day
It's an obvious raid/samefagging, sister... In fact aren't you the one who claim to be "exposing" it? Why are you memory holed it and act as if you don't know?

Seriously, at this rate the ammount of drama you're involved with i won't be surprised if you're actually Mine kek.

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>>43306277
>Mine
Baffling
How the hell you reached that conclusion?
It's more logical to assume that I'm Deidey herself or her friend.
I don't even sound like Mine, fuck! I even did a voice reveal to ulti that anon's Oceane Rrat.
Like how?
All i ask Adele
https://vocaroo.com/16gW8FB4j8pE
Mama aku ingin pulang
https://vocaroo.com/1gKyu5XmN1UJ
M2u myosotis
https://vocaroo.com/1oF86VIk8btB
at least pick someone who has similar voice
>>43307078
>Exposing
I was confused by the amount of anons discussing it compared to Joey's
What do you mean by 'exposing' ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43306277
>religious swearing
Oh, I'm not asking them to do it (i'm not the original poster btw). What I mean is that it's a common thing in Indonesia, and if you really want to target the ID market, you shouldn't be afraid of it. Because most of the things that you can get away with in real life, you can get away with online. In Kobo's case, she based that on her real-life experiences.

Why I said that is because it's arguably worse if you keep keceplosan but hold it too late. It's really common for Indonesians, religious or not, to say some "religious" phrase. Like, I think it's better to just stop holding it instead of doing things like "Ya Al... Tuhan." If you can fully avoid it, it's fine then. Keep it up.

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>>43307078
nta but what she told us during that thread was to ignore tf out of that topic and not
>oh boi a dramabait, lets chew it up and pretend as if its a good stuff for our thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>43307389
Here, let me refresh your memory. You know that it's a raid (picrel), it's not the usual /warkop/ dweller. An then later >>41524315
>I'm shocked others not questioning why people suddenly talk about her
You know it's a raid, you're claiming to be "the protectors" that "exposed" those raiders agenda, and yet now you act like it's actually the majority of /warkop/ that are dunking her, not a raid??

I don't care if you're not Mine, from now on i'll call you Mine just because how many /warkop/ drama you're involved with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43308131
Forgot the pic

[Anonymous No.]

should I just post VTuber lewd in this trying times

[Anonymous No.]

>>43308084
Well, tbf it's also based on my assumption that she's a certain femanon that always create drama /here/ in the past. based on her posting style, oshi, etc. But eh let's just stop it cause i'm no better if i keep talking about this
Sorry OP, let's just start hornyposting instead. Do we have any Astelica lewd?

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>>43308131
>You know that it's a raid (picrel), it's not the usual /warkop/ dweller.
>it's not the usual /warkop/ dweller.
>now you act like it's actually the majority of /warkop/ that are dunking her,
Let me ask you this, anon. Is SimpthiaOP a raider? He's a warkop dweller, he's the OP of this thread. ANONS TRUSTED HIM and when they saw him against Deidey, they followed his thoughts and bullied her too.
>You know
I don't.
>>43308194
>Are you all coming from the same discord?
This is a question, anon, not a statement. Because discord screenshots leaked to warkop

[Anonymous No.]

>>43300742
Reza's a moonafag tho

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>>43308851
ABAYO

[Anonymous No.]

>>43308851
Enjoy your vacation champ o7

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>>43308851

[Anonymous No.]

>>43308963
I'll enjoy my vacation in jail with my daughter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43308303
Gotchu senpai

[Anonymous No.]

Woah this has become serious.
I've read various analysis from books and papers also discussions, and I conclude that Indonesia is indeed mostly tolerant, but Indonesia IS SO FUCKING DIVERSE.
Javanese wouldn't really care if you insult Islam for example (some of the santri living in the northern coast might get angry), but Sumatran, Madurese, Betawi, Bugis, and your typical kadrun culture will riot.

The thing is Indonesia is poor as fuck, the budget for police are so abysmal (if you don't know, when they do a patrol they paid it using their own or their commanders money). So the government felt that they can't ensure security if things go south like 1998, so they prefer to prevent things from happening by enacting highly paranoid laws.

Also in Indonesia, riots or big demonstration are mostly caused by the enemy of the government paying people to casue havoc. 212 was organized by politicians who don't like this new progressive style politics introduced by Jokowi and Ahok, they succeeded in defeating Ahok but failed to do the same to Jokowi. Every fuel price hike riots during SBY era were organized by PDIP. And 1998 riots was organized by people who were fed up with Orba and wanted to take over the country for themselves. Riots has always been "ditunggangi", so the govt always have this mentality to prevent it from happening at all.

IMO, if any public figure including vtubers is insulting religion, there won't be anything happening. But once a group of people get insulted and starting to get angry, that's when things gets dangerous because some crafty elites will use it to create instability with the hope of taking over the power from the current government.
That's the reality of our politics folks. Mahasiswa and rioters are just a tool of those elites without them knowing that they're being used as pawns.

[Anonymous No.]

I have a dumb idea, tell me if it'd work or not

>MAHA5 should purchase NijiID
my considerations are this
>Both are reclining
>Both are owned by JP parent corpos that are traded in public (in TSE that is)
>Both has DNAs that pushed them to pander locally
>Despite their reclines, they're still the number 2 and 3 in ID according to VRchama stats, making them the closest ones who can compete with holoID

For NijiID it makes more sense to merge with a corpo with local leanings to help them incline as their debuff was the niji part, not their ID identity

While for MAHA5, with GEN3 not up to their expectations, why not take a book from AKA's brand building and take those NijiIDs with their still sizable followings and convert them into complete local pandering chuubas that are impossible under niji copyright autism

With corpowars heating up this year, feels like now's the right time to consolidate the old guards if they don't want to lose their shares to those new kids on the block

[Anonymous No.]

>>43308851
bro if you wanna post this, at least use pomfcat lah

[Anonymous No.]

>>43309548
No, most of exID's members are too elitist to actually pander to local audiences successfully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43308131
>/warkop/ drama you're involved with.
simpthiaOP is mine?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43309797
That pic is from /ehe/. He probably just download it and post it /here/. I'm not complaining tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43309548
if they stop seeing vtuber as side gig, maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>43309811
There's some potential within those hopeless chuubas tho, let's confirm who's the elitistfag among these that I'd consider could thrive well in MAHA5
>Siska (dotofag, close with some IDchuubas like Zen)
>Etna (the only exID to had cover collab with other IDchuuba, pretty interactive to other IDchuubas as well)
>Xia (moving to MAHA5 gonna ease her to play retrogames, adding more appeals to local crowd after her band skills and futbol interest)

[Anonymous No.]

>>43310483
Oh yeah i agree that some of them could succeed (atleast, compare to their condition right now) in Maha5. But buying the entire exID is just dumb move because most of them doesn't really fit with Maha5 IMO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43307713
>Common thing in Indonesia
Actually it's common all around the world (almost every HoloEN and NijiEN said "Jesus Christ" and all of its variations from time to time) so could this be the key to incline? Idk but it's interesting to speculate about such little detail that may surprisingly have a considerable impact
>Keceplosan
So is it about how they're trying to fake it and be different from their daily life or what?

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>>43311096
It's not about fit or not, it's about inflating the numbers to help them build their brand, that's why I mentioned AKA before since do you really belieb that most of those scouted AKAs fit into what AKA were before their ID expansion, and what AKA trying to achieve in ID if you look at their auditions last month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43301265
>Allowing trannies in Indonesia
Not gonna happen lol. It's already quite fucking up in Scandinavian countries and UK. They already reversed the gender reassignment laws after regretters start their lawsuits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43301796
I think the biggest problem with our people is lack of discipline.
I mean look at Japan. Hundreds of years isolating themselves, then forced to play catch up with other countries. So what they did? They hire a lot of foreign teachers, pick the brightest students and even stop plutocrats from owning too much natural resources. Then they sunk Russian fleet and suddenly they became industrial monster. Then after they got nuked twice and went completely bankrupt they still bounce back and became economical super power.

Indonesia was like "Yay we're free now. Now what?" and everyone start punching each other in the face.
Soekarno was right, our worst enemy is not the Dutch/Japan/Allies, but our own people.

I remember my Grandpa said that the govt in the 60s actually already thinking about malnutrition/stunting/kurang gizi. So they actually make a program about giving all elementary school children milk every morning before school. You know how long that program went?
ONE DAY
Only one day. The remaining of the milk fund are pocketed by corrupt officials.
Also remember several years ago our religion minister/Menteri Agama gatting arrested for corruption in govt's Quran funding? If religious minister that supposed to know what's moral or not was corrupt, how can we keep our govt free from corruption?

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>>43301930
>A lot of atheists from western countries still say "Jesus Christ!" if they're shocked by something, even if they're not religious at all.
No anon, they're hypocrites.
They claim that they're atheist but they came from good Christian family and they became atheist because it's the cool thing to do among their peers (and to rebel from their parents)
Notice that when they're in height of fear they defaulted to say "Jesus Christ" because deep down they still believe in God.
They afraid to be religious because hardcore atheists will shame them and reduce their social interactions.
Also USA is full of pampered lazy man babies. No job? Get welfare and unemployment money. They will starve if they live in Indonesia.

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>>43311910
I think it's more that it will brings unnecessary attention. "Why can't they said it?", something like that. Tebak Agama crowd would always exist no matter what you do. Meanwhile, "Ya Allah", "Astagfirullah", "Alhamdulillah", etc are common phrase that a bunch of non moslem also said (and not just in Indonesia, some country like Germany because of immigrants from Turkey).

Most people won't bat an eye if you said that just because how common it is, while saying stuff from other religions would make people noticed immediately. This is actually the same thing in western countries, just the reverse. Like you said, it's very common to hear western streamers said "Jesus Christ!", but if someone said any Islamic phrase it will immediately get some attentions.

So yeah my point is that if you really want to target ID market, don't be afraid of that if it's already your habit. Same with some regional accents or phrase. You can still avoid any personal information questions and just let those tebak-tebakan crowd do their own thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43306277
>Jakarta's 212
I remember that. It's not the fault of the Jakartans. A lot of hardcore Muslims came from out of Jakarta. I remember that when I went to Jumat prayer the imam said they won't send people to Jakarta because it's not what they support.
Also it's Governor election, not presidency election. That what people forget. But it ended up became a plaything for three biggest political parties.
Also the so called 212 alumni are insufferable. I remember some of them talk about how they're right because they're the "212 alumni" then talk about how Indomaret is killing the local stores. Ironically some Indomaret employees were in that mosque as well. I went to different mosque after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43313653
>they won't send people to Jakarta
>I went to different mosque after that
Wise choice, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43309467
Yeah, I remember listening to my dad watching youtube. It's always about politic and the video is obviously made to support a certain political figure. Every issues with said political figure always have their weird cope that "It's made to disturb his chance for presidency" and my dad keep listening to similar videos over and over again (thanks youtube olgarithm).
Also it's funny how president is almost done and yet many people still want him to be impeached for many reasons. Do people really that impatience? 2024 is one more year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43309548
LOL you think MAHA5 have that much money?

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>>43313115
Anon, you can't compare us to Japan. People always said, "But Japan can!", "They got destroyed after WW2, but look at them now!" Even if Japan isolated itself for centuries, they're already much more developed than Indonesia at the same time frame. We're already behind them by years naturally, and the colonialism also doesn't really help at all other than for the very little few.

Japan and China have their periods of natural unification, while Indonesia basically speedruns it. Our country was not really unified yet before 1945, so it doesn't help that we fight with each other still. As for how slow we develop after independence, other than the aforementioned reason, our massive landmasses and populations are a liability, that a lot of our leaders are giving up early trying to improve it, on top of corruption of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43314084
Nta, I don't think it's even a posibility, but I'm sure Niji would gladly sold them for cheap price. They don't really bring anything to Niji.

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>>43313957
I was talking about different mosques tho.
The one who won't send people are near my house. I still pray there because that place is full of great Imams.
The one I don't go anymore is close to my workplace. That mosque is big and owned by a big Islamic organization, They invite 212 alumnis often, always talking bad about something and they also don't do Qurban during Idul Adha or taking Zakat before Idul Fitri. I remember talking to their Pengurus Mesjid asking if they accept Qurban donation and they laugh at me.

I was a Remaja Mesjid for a small mosque when I was young. And we accept Qurban donations and slaughter the cows and goats ourselves and share them with the poors and locals. If small mosque like us can do that why not a big mosque backed by a large organization can't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43314084
Nta, I don't think it'll ever happen, but I'm sure Niji would gladly sold them for cheap price. They don't really bring anything to Anykara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43313337
>>43301930
Despite everything those godless pricks claim, the western world is still religious at its very core or else they'd already experiment like crazy with cloning human beings and shits like that. That's why trannies only can scream so brashly on the internet
>>43313589
>Don't be too afraid
I agree with you on this actually and it's right objectively. What I tried to explain above is actually the mechanism behind their thought based on my observation since it seems to me they have a collective traumatic experience thanks to Moona's "tebak agama vtuber" yab. Then again, with small indies who comes later, they don't have this kind of notion toward saying religious saying (like Deidey for example)
>>43313653
I know and understand that very well but I just didn't want to explain it further since it's too oot even by /vt/'s standard
>Indomaret killing the local store
Kek this is PKS-level of argument. I remember every minimart in Depok, where they dominate the political scene, must close their store before 10 pm in the past
>>43314621
At its very core, all abrahamic religions are community-based religion so no matter how big their backing are if they don't have a good rapport with the community around their place, that kind of problem is bound to happen

[Anonymous No.]

I have a question. If any ID members want to join a music label, what do you think is the best? I'm not really familiar with it and i wonder if any of you guys have any knowledge about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43314084
I honestly thought they could buy them for free, why would anyc put a pricetag for livers they want to banish?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43313115
>economical super power
Sure, they got that, but in reality their standard wage still the same since 30 years ago

The only people who will cumming from having stagnant wage for 30 years are those "Nrimo Ing Pandum" People

[Anonymous No.]

>>43314312
Actually our country is ready and pretty united. But there's many things that stop our country from reaching that.
Soekarno started war with Malaysia and Pembebasan Irian Barat, this made economy went in a slump and Rupiah went into inflation. My grandpa was promised a certain amount of salary before he graduated. But after inflation that salary became too low.
Okay I actually asked and the promised salary was 801 Rupiah. But when he graduated his salary is 3000 Rupiah and with that money in the 60s can only buy 2 set of suits (obviously can't support a family for a month)
The Soekarno wasted more money building Senayan, Hotel Indonesia and Monas. This is for Ganefo, something to rival the Olympic, done by members of KTT Non Block.
Then Soeharto happened. Rather than making our own industries, we became importer of goods. Remember back in the 70s and 80s we buy belt and shoes from Italy, even matches was imported from Dutch. We have everything to become an industrial country but we focus on Agrarian country instead. Focusing so much on food that we can't even export because we lost to Thailand.
Also like a lot of people say, we have "minder" mindset because we think that our own products as inferior. Remember when people start making Indonesian made car a lot of people made fun of it. "Why make our own car when we can buy a Toyota or Honda?"
People forget that Toyota and Honda also started with awful cars. I remember my dad said that back in the 70s buying Japanese car is bad because they're prone to breaking down. Now we buy a Toyota or Honda if we want a good, long lasting car.
Hell, the sentiment was so bad in the 90s when we have a national car called Timor, turn out it's just a rebadged cheap Korean car.
Now look at Malaysia, they made car brand called Proton since the 90s and now they're sold in UK.

We have a lot of chance, we squander it all. Now we try to catch up, but we need to discipline ourselves first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43315812
>we have "minder" mindset because we think that our own products as inferior
This is also why Soekarno is going nuts on building landmarks like Monas in the first place. To "erase" the "minder mindset" from the people

Looks like he failed because Soeharto being Soeharto, painting his face over all Soekarno's hard work

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>>43316385
History is written by winners.
Soeharto painted Soekarno as a bad person.
If you live in Soeharto era, every one is worshiping him like a cult.
Anyone who dared to disagree would disappear.

[Anonymous No.]

nice thread
unironically this kind of conversation is what i hope for when i see a debate or discussion on other social media, now its just full of ironic weebs and normies trying to be sarcastic and throw buzzword like le wakanda or le konoha.

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>>43312304
AKA's move to enter IDChuuba market by scouting instead of audition might not be the first of it's kind, but with how they utilize the potential of their talents' networking, aside from researching the experiences of the talents they've scouted (there's a good amount of tensei/reincarnated ones there, mind you), they know where they should put their money to. I dare say they have better roadmap than nijisanji, at least on the IDChuuba scene.

And looking at exID, I'd say they have such a good networking potential but jap corpo autism dictated them to prioritize the big family first, and end up with how now we feel like they are so gatekeep-y. It's been like that, especially after the merge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43312304
Okay, maybe "fit" is not the correct word. What i mean is that you're implying that Maha5 can help exID get local audiences, while most of exIDs are clearly not interested in that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43315202
kobo for 88rising

[Anonymous No.]

>>43318557
https://youtu.be/u5_R0ouqKDA

[Anonymous No.]

>>43318158
Looking at their war against kikebook raid some weeks ago, their interest are simpler than new audiences, they just want a management that don't cockblock their projects (yes, as clueless as exIDs are, they do have projects to plan), people who can update their fans on the latest habbenings using ofiicial SNS, and managers who know what the current trends are (there's a rrat that even during pre-merge days, NijiID managers were super dumb when it comes to understanding local demands, especially for streaming contents)

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking about AKA Virtual, I compare their numbers to ex-IDs. You can see it yourself.

Side Notes:
a. Not everyone in AKA Virtual is counted because >Playboard
b. I just take some of the ex-IDs as the sample. Below Taka, some of the ex-IDs are still above KKM (Layla, Nara, Hyona, and Reza). Etna is the first below KKM, then Nagisa (Avg, CCV: 75), Riksa, and Derem.
b. The ranking number you see in the ex-IDs tally is among themselves. Of course, Mika is #1 (Avg. CCV: 801).

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, Andi returned sooner than what I've thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l38xk25ga94

[Anonymous No.]

Last thread was wholesome.
No bitter anons seething about how bad kikebookfags are
No heavy /pol/ shit
No sus amogus
Just pure unfiltered fun with deisex posting, AI, holotalk and surprisingly anons are chill about Zoey / Oceane
What's so different from last thread and this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

Scuff aside, Cupang's 3D debut was quite solid. Also surprisingly, she's more fit than she looks
https://youtu.be/LwUpAackmSA

Don't miss her concert happening in about 2 hours! https://www.youtube.com/live/m7ZQqlQHeF4?feature=share

[Anonymous No.]

>>43320831
Running a 4ch general is like a gacha, sometimes you'll see anons in good mood like last one, sometimes it can be raided by schizos like Mine, that's the nature of 4ch generals where it can't be comfy 24/7, so the best thing we can do when thread's gone bad is to tame the schizos

[Anonymous No.]

>>43321072
>Deidey posters bring peace
I'll also Deidey-posting to make Mine seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>43300429
if they want their vtubing career to crash and burn, they're free to openly hating on the most popular and non-controversial group of talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43321406
Kek, don't worry femanon, I'm not one of those posters
>>43307078
>>43308131
Besides I don't think Mine with her lawyer busyness are that silly to waste her time on this Mongolian throat singing board

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>>43318557
>88rising
they went woke to appease to BLM retards.

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>>43321945
That's why I'm confused when Facebook dwellers there are scared of them, to the point they censored Mine's name as "Raja Terakhir." Yes, Mine is a woman. But, there's no way she'll waste her time to bring those people justice just because of high-school-tier mean comments. No way she's that stupid.

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>>43322290
Anon...
>No bitter anons seething about how bad kikebookfags are

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>>43322632
?
Are they that bad? I thought many people just dismiss them.

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>>43285140
I think that's more like assimilation, they adopted what others around them do, like sometimes my Buddhist and Christian friend said Astagfirullah (and this buddhist friend also wore cross earring that makes it even weirder)

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>>43320831
>>43321406
Based Deisex posters.
Zoey is going to do karaoke tonight at 21.00 PM.

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>>43320831
A certain anon (you) can't hold their woman-ness and let her anger with simpthiaOP loose.

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>>43322940
People just like to generalize.
I didn't know the existence of their groups until some anons let it live rent-free and ironically made me check them instead

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>>43322994
It's not weird, that's just cultural cross polination. Even Thomas Muller has said that because of immigrants influencing the way Germans talk.

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>>43322290
I never checked those kikebook groups so how tf Mine becomes Raja Terakhir?

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>>43324002
Maybe because Mine did something like "gertak sambal" to them? I don't know. She becomes Voldemort in there, The One Who Shall Not Be Named. Also, I assume that they overestimated Mine and co. (Warukovi circle) as being powerful in the local VTuber fandom.

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>>43320831
Our pol is a bit different though
Americans are squabbling over which sides going to rule (and change) the govt.
Our pol is just a bunch of sad people, dreaming of a better, nicer country.

Now back to /vt/ The new "Oceane"
What with uncreative girls and brown hair anyway?

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>>43323138
>anger with simpthiaOP
Every time i mentioned OP's past blunder, someone appeared and accused me as vtubers. Yesterday it's Oceane, today it's Mine, tomorrow might be Deidey, the next day after tomorrow maybe Andi (but will someone accuse me that I'm Mythia though? Kek) Next year maybe I'll be yagoo! It will not stop until every vtuber on earth is mentioned.
It's funny that his blunders now are treated like Voldemort.

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>>43325792
NTA but why don't you consider to become a chuuba yourself? Your singing voice might attract some vsingerfags imo

[Anonymous No.]

IT'S CUPANG 3D TIME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7ZQqlQHeF4
WATCH HER NOW
WATCH HER NOW
WATCH HER NOW
WATCH HER NOW
WATCH HER NOW

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Did Ollie have any experience before organizing something?

I know she's ambitious, and that's good. But trying to do something as big as this alone is just waiting for disaster to happen. Management should not allow her to handle it alone.
I know this from experience.

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>>43327186
I'm surprised she sung Bebas this soon, I thought she'll save it for the final parts

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>>43327139
>Why don't you consider to become a chuuba yourself?
I don't like to be choosen and chased by men. I like choosing my men instead. Male chuubas made me realize how easy it is to fall in love with men. Male chuubas are not clingy, i can leave them if i want to, they won't be searching for me. I cannot bring myself to commit to a relationship
>singing voice
It's not nice
It's weak, thin and too light. I want to be badass, cool and intimidating. I want to be able to sing metal, but my voice don't have enough weight for it. At one point i threw up blood from practicing growling

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>>43327593
Did something happen?

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>>43328415
EA server happened

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>>43325733
You mean her model?
It's just a temporary model until she gets her model done (2-3 months).

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>>43327593
>>43328415

Organisation is honestly a bit messy, but there's room for improvement if we ignore internet issues.
Since Ollie is the main viewing host, what i think could be helpful is a spreadsheet/list/diagram/visual aid showcasing the teams for each game. She could then cross out names of people who were defeated as the games progresses. Alternatively, she could set her stream display to have multiple people on screen.
How do these sound anons?

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>>43327186
> KOPLOM@STER
Historic 3D Track

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>>43328781
Yeah but I noticed that a shit ton of manga, the generic female character is always long haired brunette, a boring design I say. Now it spilled over into Vtubing industry. Zoey was like "Ah yes this is my temporary model" while grabbing the most generic model ever.

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>>43329497
I actually like this model.
Too bad she's gonna stop using it after the real model is finished.

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>>43329763
Is there a hint for what her new model gonna look like?
If it almost similar to Oceane I will laugh so hard.

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>>43329275
Sounds good
I don't know what's going on most of the time
I'm saviourfagging Yopi atm i don't even pay attention to her stream. The moonrune-speak is filtering my brain, i'm zoning out and drooling like a retard

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>>43330485
>Saviourfagging Yopi
Bruh, she got 4 views easily nowadays. Also her GFE led to many kaigai nikki flock to her.

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>>43330485
>>43330745
Anya and Iofi hit Miti's number today...

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>>43328415
Nta, I spent minutes watching kobo cosplay as a rock, then 1 hour of boring stuff including a moment when Towa somehow has to explain the rules in passion English to Kobo and Fauna. Then a bunch of weird stuff with the boxing match, and lastly another 10 minutes of Kobo cosplaying as a bush.

Conclusion :
>Hide and seek
kino
>Zombie mode
Okay, but too scuff
>Boxing
Shit

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>>43330745
No... Not really

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>>43331025
agreed but boxing is okay-ish for me. just do it on boxing arena next time.
she need to make the zombie mode more balance

not bad for her 1st big project tho.

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>>43330769
>Agency wide event
Of course she gonna get less views. This is a special case.

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>>43331387
The streams are mostly in Japanese. I'd rather wait for clips instead.

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>>43330329
Check her twitter.
She posted something a few days ago.

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>>43325792
I know you are angry about me as the Simpthia OP who created that Deidey thread, who engaged at the Deidey chat leakers, and who may also started the whole drama or whatever the fuck it is. I can understand that. But, what do you want me to do? To do a naked dogeza? To immolate myself out of shame? Even if I do so, will that be enough for you?

I understand I fucked up, even when for some people, that was something insignificant. So, I became less and less involved with /warkop/. And turns out, even with me being a bygone entity, /warkop/ still rolls around. I don't ask you to forgive me. But, you can't just continue posting your anger towards me. Of course other anons will notice and deride you for it. You don't want to be rent-free, don't you?

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>>43325792
>>43333013
Great, now kiss.

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>>43333283
As long as she cosplays as Miti. In return, I will cosplay as Andi.

[Anonymous No.]

femanon and simpthiaOP hate sex???

[Anonymous No.]

What streams are you guys watching now?

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>>43333935
YES PLEASE!!!

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>>43334205
Team eek.
c

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>>43334205
Yopi and twappi's team

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>>43334205
Watching this local violinist roleplaying as Sundanese wedding event MC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_15RRufrsY

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>>43332965
So it looks like she wants something with one eye covered with hair and hair similar to Oceane but with more menhera aura lel.
I like it.
I fucking love it

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>>43334694
Yep, I hope her model looks good.
>>43334205
Waiting for Zoey's karaoke stream.
Starts at 21.00.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvVEM5pxoEY
Komandan meets Oppai Loli

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>>43334694
QUEEN

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>>43334694
>>43335825
Zoey LIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R-PKSR384o&ab_channel=UtadaZoeyCh..歌田ぞおい

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>>43328153
>Prefer to chase than being chased
Well, fair enough
>Able to sing metal
Clean vocal in modern metal is also important, no? Then again you can also try old school one albeit it requires lot of power. Scream and growl is not the only vocal technique for metal after all

[Anonymous No.]

Night bump.

[Anonymous No.]

Are you guys listening to Zoey's karaoke?

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/EpelEvelyn/status/1626964016844386304
Epel....

[Anonymous No.]

is this sasa official account?
https://twitter.com/Sasa_Melezatkan

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>>43341523
yes, what do you think the golden checkmark means, anon?

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>>43309548

>maha5 should purchase nijiid

they are too poor to even properly pay their staffs and livers how do you expect them to pay 18 new people??

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>>43341719
0 yen is not that expensive anon

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>>43341523
Kek imagine my surprise when I saw that account replying to Kobo and Kiara

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>>43342801 (me)
Forgot the tweets
https://twitter.com/Sasa_Melezatkan/status/1626957264665079810
https://twitter.com/Sasa_Melezatkan/status/1626958039772463104

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>>43341586
idk anymore man since now you can pay to get that checkmark

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>>43343271
Only blue checkmark, gold checkmark is for official business account

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Damn iketog's refugees really make the board moving so fast

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>>43341312
She so genuine if it's about her epelables.
Reading the thread, i could feel she so passionate about this as well. Can't imagine she retired one day. I would be so devastated

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>>43343395
Ah yes all thx to Elon Musk and his confusing changes for twitter

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>>43347217
Twitter is losing money rn please understand

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>>43346123
so it really does got axed, what's the reason?

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>>43347217
Elon Musk is saving Twitter anon.
Now ex-Twitter execs are getting interrogated by the parliaments for hiding dirty secrets

[Anonymous No.]

Night bump!

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>>43354617
I'm also here anon.
Fell asleep early, woke up early.
Play game, game crashed, check 4chan
Warkop still alive. I guess no yab today.

[Anonymous No.]

Energen breakfast, watching clips. Looks like everyone's asleep

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https://twitter.com/deidey16_/status/1627054075350233093?t=bhphJsx-VjxEPUD-KkCggw&s=19

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>>43357856
and then they had sex

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>>43357856

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>>43349639
Don't know but this is what you will get if you go the website

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https://twitter.com/MythiaVTuber/status/1627079941593645056
Qrd on this?

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>>43362549
I'm not there, so I have no idea at all.
It sounds serious though, no way the EO can cut Miti for technical problems and just not tell her anything. Not even an apology or clarification?

And Miti HAS to clarify that this tweet is not impulsive, just because a lot of people still sees her as the same menhera in 2022: https://twitter.com/MythiaVTuber/status/1627082490543509507
Yes, Miti has a manager. Has been that way since a few months ago.

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>>43358229
Yeah with me

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>>43363910
I wrote this.
Last night was so awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43229526
what a cutie

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>>43363607
Yeah it's kinda weird if the EO is so unprofessional like that. I hope it's just a misunderstanding and it will get resolved easily
>Manager
Oh thank god she really needs one to tardwrangler her. Hope this one can last for a long time

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>>43363607
Idk if miti's action wise or not
epel have same experience as well at some event (got her perform cancelled on last minute while many fans already waited for her) but she didnt made drama out of it

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>>43367951
>>43368199
What happened is, she is completely cut from the event. She only got to do check sound. Yes, that's it. She didn't get to perform anything. And the EO didn't tell her anything about it, not even an apology out of formality. At this point, she has all the rights to complaint about it.
And let's be fair, if this happened to a Hololive VTuber, I bet everyone would've been rioting to the EO ASAP.

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>>43369143
exactly the same, she was managed to do check sound as well. also from what i heard not only epel who got cancelled. Ffs i couldnt found the event nor the cancellation notice on epels ig. She only shared it on ig back then

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>>43367951
The problem is a lot of EO was formed in Indonesia by clueless people who think "Managing a party isn't that hard, right?"
Then the event imploded and they either fled the event or acting like nothing happened.
This is the worst during mid 00s. I was almost invited to join an EO company but at that time I'm having a mental breakdown so bad I ignored phone calls and messages.

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>>43370118
Know that feel. When shit's happen your brain just stops

[Anonymous No.]

Bule experiencing offcollab with ID members: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2qu_5rwF00

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>>43370118
Even more so these days. Just look at music concerts from last year, a lot of the EOs are straight up retards who only cared about money from concert-hungry attendees after 2 years of Covid. This also happens with J-Fest EOs to a smaller extent.

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>>43363607
Where was that event again? I'm concerned since my city jfest gonna invite a chuuba for the first time next month, and idk if it'll goes well or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>43370118
That reminded me of something worse. https://nawalakarsa.id/pop-kultur/dewata-anime-festival-bubar-berkat-pencuri-uang/

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>>43382364
Ni Gatsu Fest.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea5QL3LyJTI&ab_channel=UtadaZoeyCh.%E6%AD%8C%E7%94%B0%E3%81%9E%E3%81%8A%E3%81%84
Live 11.00

[Anonymous No.]

>>43378768
Delayed by 30 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383703
The legendary fraud

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384120
Live

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1627156041334140928

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384030
holy crap, so people coming to that event in Bandung even from Malang for nothing? no wonder Miti's pissed

[Anonymous No.]

>>43388360
Yes, anon. What is more disheartening for a VTuber than seeing your fan travels for thousands of kilometers but never got the chance to perform for them? Miti is showing a great restraint, or else she would've talked about this last midnight in a more heated tone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43378768
German bule, Japanese and weeb culture, probably eating lontong in Jakarta.
Ms. Worldwide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383703
Kek that also what happened to that tumblr convention. Acting all cutesy wutesy and wokey wokey and then just up and swindle most of the money while blaming capitalism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383703
So that guy got arrested or went off scott free?
I mean, a lot of conmen in Indonesia got away without repercussion. Me and my dad invested in a business that seems legit (Klanceng Bee keeping business) and the owner just up and run away with billions of rupiah and hundreds of people don't get their money back. The worst part it got promoted on TV (not infomercial, legit news) and the contract is actually pretty air tight. But I guess Indonesian conmen are pretty bold.

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>>43389077
*meatball

[Anonymous No.]

up siang

[Anonymous No.]

>>43247452

it was fine until I checked the comments, why every elementary school is THERE lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>43389898
Imagine Kiara gargling my meatballs

[Anonymous No.]

>>43393829
Kobo already said herself "I play with mommy Kiwawa smol balls"

[Anonymous No.]

>>43393897
Chest balls right?
RIGHT?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43324339
Weird if out of all IDchuubas, it's fucking Mine that scares the kikebookers out

[Anonymous No.]

>>43395049
"Masukin, masukin"
Yes, Kiara herself said that to Moona but don't worry it's just herself trying to say "Masakin holomie"

[Anonymous No.]

Kobo saying to Kiara that eating MSG/Vetsin make someone's brain stupid is an old assumption created by a western scientist trying to shit on MSG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43389656
It's like that too in other countries.
Believe it or not they're not really breaking any law because most of the investments are not written on paper and those investment are not under OJK, so the govt doesn't have any obligation to arrest them. It's basically the victims fault for agreeing with investing without any guarantee.
Unless the victims does class action suit, which will be useless anyway if none of the victims comes from influential families, the police won't bother to spend resources to track them.
It happens even in Japan or America too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43397154
Kobo is genius when it comes to entertainment, but she's a retard in everything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43397277
Balance, like all things should be

[Anonymous No.]

>>43397232
Yeah but at least in Japan and America even hand written contract is still respected because it's a binding agreement between two people written on paper with both signed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxg5MMNgGxY
This is why we need small claim court in Indonesia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43399274
We have the mechanism for that: https://www.hukumonline.com/klinik/a/seluk-beluk-gugatan-sederhana-lt56a9cc2d21ea9/

[Anonymous No.]

>>43399426
I see, glad we have them. And the limit is 500 million or less.
I wonder if we still need lawyer or not. It's quite a waste if we got scammed for, let say 15 million and the lawyer fee will pretty much drained that money.

[Anonymous No.]

See you next thread