/vtwbg/ - Virtual Youtuber Worldbuilding General

[Anonymous No.]

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as countries interacting with each other through means peaceful and militant alike!

Previous thread: >>42512803

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

Introductory document for new anons:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-intro

CURRENT GOALS:
- Survive

>Note that the map is set in stone.
>Casual Stories or Greentexts of your general in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Ignore any trolls, falseflaggers or dramafags. Report, hide and move on.
>Try to keep hornyposting, socposting and funposting to the absolute minimum until we hit the bump limit.
>Please think twice before posting if you're intoxicated or feeling moody.

THREAD REP TRIPCODES:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-rep-trips

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents:
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems:
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-climate
Tectonic Plates and their Movements:
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces:
https://rentry.org/ztaf99
Minerals:
https://rentry.org/Minerals-Ores-VTWBG

CURRENT MAGIC SYSTEM:
https://rentry.org/chuubanite

FLAG POSTS:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-flags

LORE ARCHIVE:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit

[Anonymous No.]

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/VTWBG/ HISTORY
Anchor post for events in the /vtwbg/ canon timeline.
Reply to this post or commentate directly in the sheet suggestions for events to add to the timeline.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18-HH-xmC_qxOS3ZV0Ssxzb1mDA0xVKv31yMDLWo_pEo/edit

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/votevtwbg1-27to1-29
Aggregated Past Vote Results:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-votez
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-bylaws
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

[Anonymous No.]

CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-prompts

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>LORE CATCHUP ANCHOR
Last thread's new lore/discussion you might have missed:

>>/vt/CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-prompts
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LORE CATCH UP:
Last thread's new lore/discussion you might have missed:

>>Uhhhhhh

Reply to this post to be included in the next thread's lore catchup

[Anonymous No.]

Should be sci fi edition, but good bread.
Now I wanna hear what your nation is like in a sci fi setting. How does your general interact with alien races and what's their ships and tech look like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42659688 https://youtu.be/_CXzPrEHFHQ
Rock n roll.

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>>42659688
Would we all be aliens or something?

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>>42659688
Really depends on how far into the future the setting is. While a big united Earth Gov is a common trope I guess something similar to Gundam G where each nation gets their own Space station/company would also be cool. Though that probably limits the setting to the nearer systems or everyone is still inside Sol, so no FTL.

[Anonymous No.]

Necromancy Anchor: /meat/ Edition

I fed all of /meat/'s general lore into chatgpt. Reply with a small question or prompt and I'll tell you what the AI said. Let's learn together if this AI thing is able to understand any of the lore we write in any capacity.

Notes: Its very shy about slavery and, slightly less so, cannibalism, so trying to feed it a lot of the lore was... tricky...

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>>42660525
How do you make a good stew in /meat/?

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>>42660655
(Idk if people want pics or pasta)

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>>42660362
At first I thought keeping it in a single solar system would help things stay focused, but I think having a setup where we can freely add solar systems would let people get a lot more creative with new planets and exploration stories. Having the action happen in a star cluster or a nebula of a couple hundred systems might be a nice compromise of focus and freedom, I think.
>>42660873
That actually sounds pretty good, depending on how strong the taste of chuubanite is.

[Anonymous No.]

Did some archive reps.
>>41539575
Mutok kinda makes me think of Marduk, Babylonian chief-god, in a good way. Godly-feeling name. Other name is good too.
>>41567114
This author is aware of the nefarious intentions behind the creation of CAI; it was always all about the Filter.
>>41578032
>groomed 16 year olds
The discord mods... kek
Fucking Benny. Great, funny re-telling of the events. Lots of small references to the thread's arc.
>>41603396
/hfz/ gladiators... Forgotten...
>>41652014
>taps the sign
>don't forget, you can never leave
>>41716546
Ah, I can see graphic design is nasarep's passion.
>>41866493
I used Krita for a bit, and honestly it's just not the best tool at anything. Paint.NET is better for quick edits, CSP is better for drawing, GIMP is better for complex editing (if you don't feel like pirating photoshop).
>>41744202
So detailed. I like being reminded of the vestigial fermentation sacs, that's a neat biological feature.
>risuner-palkyrie evolutionary mystery
kino
Liora's bleeding knees making her say "I feel so alive!" kek that's hilarious. Also she's never broken a bone, like me. So the nomads operate on communal child-rearing? That's fun, makes sense too.
The Palherjar has a military component? What would a Palherjar warrior monk or nun look like? Do they have a unique uniform? Or weapons they use more often?
>The strong protect the weak, so that the weak may become strong.
Kimetsu no Yaiba reference? Or did the mangaka grab that from something else. It sounds too good, he probably did.
>>41795451
I found it to be a very enjoyable read, but I do enjoy overly information-oriented writings more than average.
>>42253836
sup ninja
>>42263250
Seeing your ass, sorry or otherwise, is one of the best parts of this thread.
>>42270872
takotown love... Always nice to see some /ybc/ poetry. Is this written from the point of view of the takos?
>>42282623
>Under the wavering light, the quill in her hand danced on the paper, leaving behind a trail of dark ink between the lines like tiny tadpoles swimming in streams.
Ah, there it is... Flowery prose. Musical calligraphy inspired by braided rivers, very nice idea.
>At the horizon of this foreboding scenery, faint dots of light wavered under the night sky, as a constant reminder of their predicament.
>But they could wait for their turn.
Is that auroras, which are related to Valhalla, which hints at the mortal danger the war puts them in? This line is so layered.
>Death
hey that's me
>“Usually I don’t like showing my work in progress, but…”
she's just like me...
>her lithe fingers turned the bow once more, guiding the echoes of the droplets into the moonless night, until the last of it dissolved into the distant lights, letting the all-encompassing void to take hold once again.
Amazing, especially with the song playing at the same time...
>“we’ll finish it once this is all over.”
DEATHFLAG
>>42288302
KYS (Positive)
Very nice, I like that he nearly ate shit out of surprise. I remember that /wAIfu/ thread...
>>42320755
Looks great, using pencil lineart and coloring is a great choice, adds a lot of personality to the piece. Seems well thought out too, I appreciate the pillar strategically placed on the counter to optimize floor space. Looks comfy.
>>42520380
Oh, a story about Pygmalion might be fun, see how the population reacts to a hope injection.
>>42542471
I am reminded of memes I'm currently seeing about muggles shooting wizards in the head with an AR-15. Snotty magic users, that's what you get.
>>42537638
Hey, good to see you. Did you end up reading that latest chap of the meat-morig thing?
>>42580127
>annihilation
holy based
>>42641211
Enjoy, Haaton, feel free to swing by any time.

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>>42660162
Pretty much, or maybe kind of like humanity in 40k where we all came from the same basic place but branched off from each other enough that genetic diversity is essentially alien but that would likely be a bit more of the widespread sci fi.
>>42660362
I'd like to have most people be able to have a distinct origin if they so desired but for their to be a proximity enough to warrant activity amongst each other that would be interesting

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>>42661190
You really do hate certain anons, dont you? You only do reps on people you like.

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>>42663305
In his defense, it would be absurd to expect him to reply to EVERYone

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>>42663305
clearly this was panon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42664009
Meds, my man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42663305
No, this was cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42664110
>mentions panon
>arrives within 1 minute
>what no I haven't been in this thread haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>42664691
>all pomu posters are panon.

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>>42661190
Thank you!
>Palkyries
It’s kinda surprising that this world doesn’t seem to have a lot of animal-eared people despite how common they are in anime and by extension vtubing so I think it makes sense for parallels to be drawn between Palkyries and Risuners (especially when both are rodent-like people who often live on trees)
The funny thing’s that Liora was playing God of War and she and Baldur basically shares the same villain motivation I have a thing for communal child-bearing so I often want to include it in my worldbuilding! I figure it fits well with the more nomadic and militant Palkyries as well
I originally made the Palherjar *the* military component of /vnug/ as part of the idea of dividing jobs in /vnug/ along religious lines but in hindsight that might not be the best idea. Perherjar’s still fairly militant as a whole though so most /vnug/ soldiers are probably part of Palherjar, which might also mean that a Palherjar warrior monk/nun would just look like a /vnug/ soldier, or maybe we should say a /vnug/ soldier look like a Palherjar warrior monk/nun. The lore in https://rentry.org/vtwbg-vnuglore#weapons-martial-arts still applies though!
I… didn’t know it was a Kimetsu no Yaiba quote. I stumbled upon something like that in the comment section of a youtube video about some MtG color philosophy which I might’ve borrowed too much for Palkyrie philosophy
>Borasmor
Sometimes I worry that my prose might come off as cringe but it’s nice to hear people like it!
I tried to make it less overt hence the line about the lights (which is something else but that hasn’t been written yet) doesn’t reference it explicitly despite my tendency to ramble and spoil
Speaking of which, it’s actually pretty funny how the meaning of aurora in /vnug/ culture has evolved due to its connection with the valkyries and how valkyries work in this mythology. It also gives an interesting insight on how Palherjar sees death as the aurora remains a calming sight for them
I love that song too! I actually had it playing in the background while I wrote that part to help with describing it with written words. Somehow NSFW games from Japan almost always have the best OST around
I also like foreshadowing a bit too much since I keep adding it in everything

>>42662376
I would say if we’re all humans then logically we would come from the same ecosystem but then again it’s not like Palkyries and Risuners have a known shared ancestor beyond the one they share with other humans

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>>42665641
>I have a thing for communal child-bearing
...eh?
Anyways, I suppose you could do a "we were all humans once" and have different planets cause different traits, or even a tad of chuubanite if chuubanite would even still be a thing in a space setting

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>>42666219
I could’ve phrased it better but I guess chat reflects the streamers after all

[Anonymous No.]

Alright you fuckers time to set some shit straight.

1. Yes this was ORIGINALLY a loot quest for cool magics. However I am not going to make that the big thing. This whole expedition is about discovery, learning, culture exchange, and experimenting with magic.

2. I want this to be as beneficial in lore to the saplings as us as well as being fun for the saplings out of lore. I hope that the saplings actually have fun with this because tomorrow morning I'm going to go balls deep in writing everything. I had all day at work to think about it and I know what I'm gonna do.

3. I will be going crazy with magic. Pushing limits, doing cool/dumb shit, and basically whatever the fuck I can think of. Magic is fun and also pic related. Because fuck it.

Saplings tomorrow look forward to the first part and tell me if you like or don't like things. love you saplings

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>>42666780
Imma be busy tomorrow, so I prob won't be able to reply in-depth until possibly Friday, but I look forward to reading it.
Off the top of my head I've been thinking about what would happen if we embedded Risuner crystals in our Ents/Dryads...

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>>42666780
Man, who the fuck cares. Take your dirt and get it ovef with.

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>>42667136
look at this dirtless nigga

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>>42667183
Ogey sandnigger

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>>42667136
Got it. Heres the story

We take the dirt and leave. Risuners traveled halfway across the earth just to take some sapling dirt. It was everything they ever wanted. Magical dirt that would power the gemtrees growth and diamonds would be in mass production. Risuners cant stop winning.

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>>42667614
>traveled halfway across the earth just to take some sapling dirt
https://www.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/black-market-for-rich-black-earth-116610.html

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>42661190
Umm... Thanks, I guess. I need to retrain myself to draw again. I haven't drawn in months. I did the maps with mouse. Also I need to learn macros and shortcuts.

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>>42667858
Risuners have very good soil too but holy shit. Cant believe thats actually a thing.

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>>42665641
>communal child-bearing
that's a funny typo, I think that would require some spec bio... I like communal child-rearing too! I spent some time in a society that practiced it and it seems to work pretty well desu.
Ohh I see, yes that does ring a bell. This blurring of lines between social classes is kinda neat, I guess that's what happens when religion and lifestyle get really intertwined.
>MtG color philosophy
You find wisdom in the strangest places... That's a good saying, I bet it's somewhere in the Bible or the Vedas.
>cringe
Author self-criticism is rough! I think I worry a bit too much about that myself. Yeah, you tied auroras into their popular consciousness neatly. Religious cultures often have a serene view on death, so that comes together well.
It's from some eroge? kek, didn't expect that. Soulful devs.
>>42668353
Sounds like you're looking for more things to draw. Looking forward to what you put together.
>>42666219
I set down some ideas re: a future setting in this rentry. These are just me and a couple other anons' ideas, nothing is set in stone. Feel free to criticize and make suggestions. That goes to everyone interested, not just the anon I'm replying to. I do think it would be a good idea to establish some groundwork and organization before jumping into lore-writing. This includes a suggestion for how to treat canonicity that would make contribution an easy process, mimicking the SCP model.
https://rentry.org/cyvt40k-intro

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>>42671164
I didn’t even notice the typo until it’s pointed out… in hindsight communal child-bearing does sound like something you get from some kinda insectoid hive mind creatures
I think the religious division should still work unless the population becomes really unbalanced. I also feel it fits well with the ongoing tarot card motif even if they rarely touch on the deeper meaning of each card
As for MtG philosophy I ended up assigning each group a shard or wedge that I think fit them the most to supplement their philosophy and values but I don’t know if that’s the best idea or if I’m projecting too much

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>>42672352
>kinda insectoid hive mind creatures
I feel like there's a tyranid thing that does this, or maybe that's just the concept where thousands of them melt into a puddle and are reborn as new lifeforms together.
Oh, with the wedges, neat! Well, it's subtle enough that I haven't really noticed it, what are the assignments?

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>>42673010
I think I wrote something like that a long time ago as symbiotic illithid tadpole colonies
Palkyries were Black/Red by nature but their religion introduced White into their zeitgeist. I haven’t gotten around to the other cultures in /vnug/ but I imagine Penelites as Blue/Black/Red. I’m still on the fence for the Remlins apart from Green and not Black (I saw it as Blue/Red/Green back then but now I feel some kind of White should be represented too

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>>42672352
You know Nephilim is a creature type, right

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>>42674022
I didn’t make the cards

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>>42674121
Then why didn't you make new ones that fixed them

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>>42673900
>symbiotic illithid tadpole colonies
That sounds awesome! Makes me think of the Hunters from Halo, they're a worm colony acting together thing as well. Imagining a humanoid made of tadpoles is a bit scary, in a good way.
Maybe the next vnug generation will have something for White?

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>>42674497
Mine was more a symbiosis between the worms and humanoids so it’s probably more like Leto II before he went full(-ish?) worm. I did try making a fully non-humanoid species before that although that’s more a slime that has assimilated the entire ecosystem
We most definitely have a White in the next gen although my doubts for Remlin’s colors is more because I feel we have a fairly tight-knit community. If one of the colors have to go it’s probably Red but I don’t know if Green/White/Blue reflects us better than Blue/Red/Green

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>>42675109
Ah, Leto II... You never go full-worm, immortality is not worth never being able to scratch your nose again.
Slime ecosystem? Like star craft creep? Or did it have some sentience?
That's a cool logo, the description + wings made me think of Celestial Being. Except it's better, because it has a skull.
Based on Kokone's streams, White comes to me a bit more easily than Red, but I haven't spent a lot of time in the thread.

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>>42675684
When I designed it I was trying to make a species that is sapient in some way (they know how to interact and modify the ecosystem for their own goals) but not sentient/conscious (they have no sense of self or a hivemind that we can understand as an individual) depending on how the words are defined. They had Zerg-like properties like forming slimy creep and modifying other life forms, up and including humanoids who serve as their mouthpiece and smiths since slime isn’t good at handling things like fire. I imagine they gave those humanoids specific forms of synesthesia so they can convert information into forms that the humanoids could understand (as they otherwise don’t communicate in ways we understand)
I think aesthetics might actually be one of the strong suits of V&U! Most of their logos are pretty cool and I like the tarot motif! I’m glad they decide to keep that for gen 2
I think so too since Kokone isn’t particularly Red despite having been a League player. I guess maybe I just associate Green/White/Blue with Bant’s lore too much and felt it doesn’t fit how I see Remland?

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>>42676693
Emergent intelligences are interesting, you can get a lot of cleverness out of lots of dumb bits thinking together. Not unlike those neural nets that have gotten popular enough to collab with Liora.. Synesthesia? Did the slime only think in color?
It is, they've got a good graphic designed on-call.
>league player = Red
kek. Yeah, I can see how you'd make that association. The color themes are a lot wider than the shards of the setting, so I wouldn't worry about that.

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>>42677767
>graphic designer*

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>>42677767
The slime doesn’t think only in colors (if they think at all) but they don’t have languages or writing systems that we know so they interact with others by activating their neurons (although it was written long before this became a meme) so they modify friendly humanoids in a way that they can convey information by poking specific neurons associated with the concepts
That’s true especially since I imagine White to be secondary to Green for Remlins. That said I can also see a hint of Bant being introduced when many Palkyries migrated to Remland during the Mujigae period

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>>42678317
Oh, that kind of synesthesia, makes sense. I wonder what it would feel like to have the slime communicate with you like that. I'm reminded of an experiment where they inserted an electrode into someone's brain and stimulating just right region made the person just kind of taste banana. I think I'd find disembodied sensations or thoughts like that a bit distressing, but I guess that would be on-brand for the mind-controlling slime.
>That said I can also see a hint of Bant being introduced when many Palkyries migrated to Remland during the Mujigae period
Do you mean the mix of different races like humans, bird people and rhinos in Bant? Or more like the martial culture of Palkyries introducing more order.

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>>42678808
I never got around actually writing stories for them but it would probably be similar to this quote since I like the game
>I think, and my thoughts cross the barrier into the synapses of the machine - just as the good doctor intended. But what I cannot shake, and what hints at things to come, is that thoughts cross back. In my dreams the sensibility of the machine invades the periphery of my consciousness. Dark. Rigid. Cold. Alien. Evolution is at work here, but just what is evolving remains to be seen.
I meant the latter since one of Bant’s theme is martial honor and it’s something that Palkyries would have in spades, although Remlins would also have multiple races like humans, elves, and Palkyries due to the migration I don’t know if I should add more than that though, since on one hand I don’t want to exclude future members who happen to have unique fan mascot design, but on the other hand /vnug/ already has a small population and keep adding more fantasy races in it will get ridiculous very soon

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>>42679242
Alpha Centauri, now that's a throwback. A forgotten gem if there's ever been one, it was better than any of the main line civ games until IV and two of its DLCs came out imo.
Just play it by ear! Countries are pretty big, they can fit lots of people. You might just find you want to put together new biomes so the new species can have a niche in the land without being displaced too easily. Muskeg people, marine people, I think there's still a few slots if one of the new mascots happens to fit.

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>>42662376
I guess. Nothing says all the nation/factions in the AU have to be direct descendants of countries currently on Vitubia. A group of people who worships say Gura could only be borrowing the aesthetic of Atlantis while being completely human without any links to chumbuds.

>>42661102
Hundreds might be a bit too much. Depending on what people want just a couple dozen would do. Not everything has to happen on planets.

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>>42679754
My concern’s that /vnug/’s meant to be mostly uninhabited wilderness and the population I ended up for /vnug/ is around 200,000. As much as I like having a bunch of fantasy beings I feel after a certain point it feels just like a kitchen sink with a bunch of human subspecies each with only tens of thousands of them not found elsewhere

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>42679958
I remember chumbuddy wanted /ggg/ to be a nation of half shrimp people.

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>>42680005
That's a fair concern, there's probably a number where it starts to get a bit silly, tho I think you've still got space for at least one or two more. Nothing wrong with making some fanbases just a part of the population of an existing species. Even small ethnographic differences can go a long way, pointy eared vs floppy eared Remlins or something like that. Or maybe it'll make sense for the whole new generation to be of a single species?

[Anonymous No.]

Chapter 11: Thou Shalt Butte

[Anonymous No.]

Chapter 12: Butt In

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>>42680172
isn't that what /ggg/ already is?

[Anonymous No.]

hump

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>>42686060
They are “half nigger half shrimp”

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>>42679958
That actually does make sense, there'd be less dramatic biological differences between races but you'd also have a kind of fun base line to work from. There could also be alien races, like a race of shrimp people that got converted into worshipping Gura by human chumbuds.
I could actually see that being a thing for lots of corpo races, converting as many aliens as possible to the worship of your pantheon and finding aliens that conceptually align with your chuuba.

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deh

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>>42689644
Well I was thinking more about a relatively grounded setting with no explored habitable planets aside from Vitubia. But I don't think I'm gonna involve myself much in the Sci-fi AU for now so eh.

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>>42693811
I think if someone wanted a grounded setting, they could still do so and have it be either an alternate sci fi or just the far past. In terms of an overall sci fi that most people could work with, the more the merrier seems best.

[Anonymous No.]

>sci fi instead of magic

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>>42694887
With 40k years to play with, you've got enough time to have a group colonize a new planet, nuke itself back to the stone age, and re-develop all the way to a recent space-faring civilization early in the exploration of its own solar system.

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>>42697608
Would we be going full on Virtual Hammer 40k? I wouldn't mind it, we might even get to a point where we could make faction rules and rework the 40k system to play. Its not like its the first time its been done with a setting.

[Anonymous No.]

now i wanna see ooga booga squirrels in space

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>>42700236
Yeah, why not? I think the play is to lay out foundations that enable both focus and freedom, and then we can see where the setting develops organically. Did you take a look at https://rentry.org/cyvt40k-intro ? Though if this is gonna be played... Is there a war game that handles aircraft better than wh40k? Kek

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I've got the idea that if space highways exist, they're probably the result of chuubas like Sana and others who had a space theme combining their powers to guide their followers and allies through space so there could be specific highways that are linked to different corpos and chuubas that reach different parts of the galaxy and have different risks attached to entering them.
>>42700582
I have not taken a look but I was looking around for it since someone mentioned having some stuff written down, lemme get into it now.
Also there's an almost 100% chance of the answer to that question being yes. I've been listening to a guy from tg build his own space faring ruleset and it sounds pretty good but I need to take a look back to how 40k does shit since its been a while

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>>42700582
This is a pretty good start, though I think I'd change it so that FTL can be attained through other means as long as it's described in a way that makes "sci-fi sense" in the same way that there are multiple versions of ftl travel in 40k, I think there can be multiple versions of FTL in CyberVitubia40k.

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>>42701393
That's something I was going back and forth on, but another voice supporting other FTL methods convinces it's best to go for that, ty for your feedback. I'll amend when I get home.
>>42701127
Yeah, in that setup, you could have sanallite star children folding space in to space highways for aussie truckers, catalognauts opening wormholes through the Catalog, schizo fleets tearing up space time through sheer rrat power.
Also, share wherever this tg guy does his thing? Sounds fun.

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>>42704414
Guys name is notepad anon and he does tg shit, he actually has a few playlists where he creates tabletop systems and I'm listening to one where he makes a game about being a space pirate and he's gotten stuck up on how to make rules for what direction you hit a ship at since he's made rules for engines, fuel tanks, hulls, cargo.
I'm really hoping he considers having degrees as in 360 but I don't think he's going to think of it.

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>>42704414
>>42707132
https://youtube.com/@NotepadAnon
Channel btw, don't know if he still streams but he's definitely still actively posting. He's a good resource not just for learning how to play a game but also for recognizing how game mechanics interact with gameplay

[Anonymous No.]

This thread feels so much more peaceful… what happened?

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>>42708762
Don't dwell on it you'll end the peace notice the lack of namefags tho

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>>42708762
Let's not jinx it and just enjoy it while it lasts

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>>42707903
Fuckin neato, all those 5 hours TTRPG rambles... Subbed. 360 deg precision seems overkill, but I guess if you bring rulers to your war games you can bring a compass too. I think 12 directions like on the clock would be enough to wrangle.

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>>42708887
Would saplings be like those tree people in Endless Space 2?
>>42709075
True, it would probably roll of the tongue a bit easier and feel a bit cooler to say enemy at 6:00 than 180, it makes me want to look into seeing how we could mechanically make a ttrpg that would work with Vitubia

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>>42709282
Had to google it.
Sorta? Some of our Ents could get that big and kinda look like that, but no metal

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>>42709445
Maybe sapling could grow tree-ships, using leaves as solar panels and sap as a propellant.

[Anonymous No.]

Yellow woman is a Space’s greatest Thief. How would this work in the scifi setting?

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>>42709445
>>42709680
It would probably make sense for saplings to rely more on the magical side of Vitubia40k factions to get around, maybe they could literally ride inside the bellies of giant space kirin.

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>>42709839
>Yellow woman
Is this a joke? She isnt even a vtuber.

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>>42709915

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>>42709907
>>42709680
My current project rn is to first figure Why saplings would even leave our forests. Idk if you've ever visited /uuu/ but we saplings tend to have... attachment issues...
After the why comes the When, then finally the How, so this is all on the todo list.

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>>42709915
fucking kek.

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>>42710227
That's true, saplings are the type to stay home... Well, they could do that, it's 40k years later, but Vitubia is still there. Or maybe the vague apocalypse from back then is why they moved. Or maybe you come up with something else that is cool.
Were you around when Era After anon posted the story about /uuu/? It was pretty good, even came with audio.
https://rentry.org/bskte
https://rentry.org/f79g8

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>>42710227
I suppose unless there was some sort of existential threat, you guys would be pretty fine in a gigantic forest planet. I suppose saplings could possibly have a kind of galactic ambassador to comission people to stop things like asteroids or to facilitate some small trade or the like but I think you're right

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>>42711409
Oh wow, I hadn't seen these, thanks for bringing them to my attention! Looks like I have some light reading for the weekend

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>>42711644
You're welcome! They're not directly related to /uuu/, but the other pieces in the Era After index are pretty fun too.

[Anonymous No.]

Meanwhile risuners have an actual catachan for a planet with orbital cannons that just tell everyone to fuck off. Makes sense given their hyper xenophobia.

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>>42708762
Space

[Anonymous No.]

Hey saplings
Do you guys mine or use underground caves for anything?

Do you domesticate animals or use farms?

Does your magic require an arcane focus such as a staff, orb, wand, etc?

Can you hear the whisper of fauna clearly? Can you tune it out if you tried?

Do the hoomans or any other group have any interest in relations with you? I mean this such as researching and studying your ways?

Do you stockpile weapons in case of emergency?

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>>42660525 (Me)
Slow hours, so bumping this

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>>42715460
>Do you guys mine or use underground caves for anything?
No, we have no need since we don't have really have any industry and barely any exports.

>Do you domesticate animals or use farms?
No need, we don't kill animals (we rarely eat meat and even then only from animals that have passed away naturally), and we can coax the forest to grow any plants we use for sustenance without having to actually make farms.

>Does your magic require an arcane focus such as a staff, orb, wand, etc?
It can, but not generally (This might change after we get some gems from Risuners). Our magic is mostly channeled through chants, prayers, and sometimes rituals.

>Can you hear the whisper of fauna clearly? Can you tune it out if you tried?
Not clearly, but certain saplings are able to train themselves to Listen to the forests. What they Hear is sometimes attributed to Fauna's thoughts, but its hard for them to tell if that's Fauna or if that's just the forest.

>Do the hoomans or any other group have any interest in relations with you? I mean this such as researching and studying your ways?
Sigh... The relationship with our neighbors has been complicated from the get-go. GENERALLY Sanalites are ok with respecting our culture and just studying our ecosystems. Both Sanalites and Hoomans have historically showed interest in just crossing our borders and starting lumber operations in our forests. You'll have to ask them about what their latest consensus is.

>Do you stockpile weapons in case of emergency?
Again, no need. We don't really have weapons. Maybe some spears or clubs from some of the more adventurous saplings, but its not common. We have specialized Ents that are in charge of keeping the forests safe, and the saplification process curse tends to deter many threats.

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>>42716136
>You'll have to ask them about what their latest consensus is.
The latest consensus for us is that we are fukken dead kek

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>>42716331
Sana is eternal

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>>42716710
She is, but we weren't.

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>42717318
Maybe not immortal but perhaps we can live long well enough for our descendants to keep our history alive.

And yes we do have history.

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>>42718054
>And yes we do have history.
Good job at pointing out the obvious

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>>42716136
The latest concensus is that I want more coast

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>>42718643
You want less coast? That can be arranged. Just for you, Hooman, I will set up the United States of Nani, where you don't need to worry about that pesky coast any more.

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>>42719177
Reading reps, anon....

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>>42718643
Idk if youre the asshole Hooman or not, but since river lore is also my todo list for /uuu/, at least one of our rivers would come from /who/ so you lot could sail that to the coast. Agreements could be made for border crossings.

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>>42719239
>He doesn't get an obvious joke.

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>>42719177
I've no idea what that means but I'll assume it's some sort of injoke
>>42719262
Any agreements would have to be with local tribes right? As far as I know you have no central authority to decide that. Actually, if you were to explain some of the geopolitics of the smaller druid tribes that would help out in my understanding of the region.

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>>42719513
>>42719239
How autistic are both of you? It's not even an injoke bros.

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>>42719603
Oh, ok

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>>42719603
Ah, ok

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>>42716136
Regarding the border crossings. The strip of NE /uuu/ is tricky since it's literally just a strip and doesn't seem all that natural for the activity range for a bunch of hunter gatherers. And since historically /nasa/ is uninhabited I thought that having some people traveling North for lumber, while (mostly) observing and respecting rules of the saplings living in that strip would make sense and create some interesting lore. My headcanon is that it's more so a local agreement/treaty between the northern Vedyrps and tribes, not necessarily a national one.

[Anonymous No.]

btw OG, forget the story with me. Shit is too complicated and won't be any fun for either of us. I am already planned something special anyways so gl.

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>>42719678
>literally just a strip
Honestly, I'm pretty sure a while ago when I first started as /uuu/'s rep I offered to let /who/ build a road across that strip (with a few caveats concerning our wildlife and culture) so that they could have easy trades with /nasa/ and/or send expeditions up north, but a hooman back then was kinda like "well what if we just build a road anyway".
But yeah, I'm open to the idea, though you should understand that although /uuu/ is fairly primitive, were not idiots. Some recompense, of fair value, would be sought after.

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>>42719513
>you have no central authority
I think its in our lore docs somewhere but tl;dr:
Tribes are lead by shamans, usually called Matres (often matriarchal). Each forest has an Elder Tree. Saplings and especially leaders make a yearly pilgrimage to their respective Elder Tree to discuss matters of their forest. The Elder Trees can sync up (something something chuubanite). And eventually the entire country gets all of its news and decides on courses of action.
So yes, we do have ruling bodies, but other nations might find our process... somewhat trying of their patience... before we give answers.

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>>42720064
>I first started as /uuu/'s rep I offered to let /who/ build a road across that strip
Ah right. Actually forgot about that. Though in retrospect the incredibly short amount of time the sanalites have been planetside on vitubia probably means the road never got finished. Probably a better idea for it to be some pre-existing path that was proposed to be expanded, but fell through. Though since now Northern /uuu/'s supposed to be subartic the forest probably looks a lot different than what we first imagined.
>although /uuu/ is fairly primitive, were not idiots. Some recompense, of fair value, would be sought after.
Yeah which is why I said treaty. Could be anything from shipments of metal tools and textiles.

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>>42720372
I see. So in that case, what is the amount and extent of autonomy that a local leader, or a shaman, might have?

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>>42720727
Purely tribal matters would be up to the individual shaman
Things that would affect other tribes would have to be discussed at the respective Elder Tree
Nation-wide concerns would wait until the yearly council

That being said, anything involving "terraforming" or issues that directly impact a forest or its ecosystem, would be considered nation-wide events, even if the area being affected is localized to a single tribe's "area" or forest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42720002
>>42719603
>>42719177
This thread was going well until one of (((your))) people, in this case, (You), stepped in. Leave now. No one likes you at all you fucking inbred retard.

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>>42720461
>Could be anything from shipments of metal tools and textiles
If I remember correctly, I think what we originally requested was protection.
You get cheap lumber (you dont get to cut anything down, we deliver specific trees to you, read /uuu/ lore if you care to know why), and safe passage North (we coax our Ents and forest guardians out of your roads), and you work diplomacy with other nations so that they generally leave us alone, respect our boundaries, etc.
Does that sound agreeable?

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>>42721440
That's doable and makes sense. I assume you are thinking of an agreement between local tribes and the government as well?
Rangers would help saplings by patrolling the forest edges and man observation posts. While the treaty ensures there's constant flow of goods between the tribes and local markets. Together with safe passages for independent merchants going deeper into the forests and approved hunters/lumberers traveling further north.

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>>42720002
REEEE SAME SHIT WITH RUMINABOI I DIDNT FORGET I JUST HAVE LOADS OF SHIT TO DO

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>>42726527
Mf, we already agreed it was going to be annoying.

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>>42671164
as i already told you before, i woould personally prefer a setting that is completly seperate timeline from current vitubia than one that has vitubia the planet as the base for the setting jsut like how warhammer age f sigmar and warhammer 40k are seperated from each other

>>42672352
this card offends me on so many levels

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>>42729917
I feel like the permissive canonicity rules make it so that if a writer wishes to build their lore from a clean slate, they can simply retcon/ignore any related lore from the main Vitubia setting and work from there, while still giving the writers interested in playing with that continuity an opportunity to do so. Would that address this concern? But if there's a desire to not include this, we could also go for a fresh, unrelated Vitubia. Are there opinions from others on this topic?
In either case, the status of the main Vitubia lore should be specified in the intro doc, so I'll add a section regarding that.
Also, tell me what's wrong with the card kek. Is it the typo in "Unknows"?

[Anonymous No.]

I am home gentlemen

[Anonymous No.]

>>42731234
gn Risuner

[Anonymous No.]

live

[Anonymous No.]

Survive, /vtwbg/!

[Anonymous No.]

buutttt!!

[Anonymous No.]

dead bump

[Anonymous No.]

Chapter 13: BUTTS of TIME

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>>42658954
Is this the end?

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>>42730930
it does not because it is still the one thing canon to the setting and if the setting starts off with some having to retcon/ignore a base principle of the setting then thats noot fun to me at least. it also turns weird the loonger it will go on with those that aknowledge this fact and those ignoring it the more they potentially interact. if i ignore this but someone else aknowledge it and works off it and then i either have to als ignore that person to stay consistent or i interact with them but get in this weird scenario where i have a different base then that person and have to at least indirectly confirm it after all

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[Anonymous No.]

>>42747765
Gorn walks up to the dimentia plagued man in pajamas. Waving his cane in anger Gorn yells at the man for taking a shit on his firewood. Now the forests smells like burning turd. And the faeries are unhappy. Gorn will surely have hit mortage repo'd now.

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>>42730930
>>42747632
Is this a debate on whether or not CVitubia 40k (gonna call it CVT40k) is a canonical part of Base Vitubia?
I'm kind interested in what both sides are thinking here since sci fi universe canons have always been considerably more dubious than fantasy canon and this setting taking place 40k years in the future means that alot of the lore in base Vitubia would stop mattering or just be totally forgotten.

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>>42752542
its canon solely because we want it to be.

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>>42754850
which races would be the last to leave? My guess is plant people stay. So saplings, risuners, and rosebuds

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>>42755184
mostly nijifags.

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>>42755184
You're implying they survive in any meaningful capacity till that age

[Anonymous No.]

>>42659003
archive anon, there is a mistake!!
You moved Axia to fetish continent instead of Indie it seems!!
Can you please move us to Indie Continent in the Lore Archive??

[Anonymous No.]

Test.

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>>42754850
>>42755184
>>42755758
Keks aside, when I say Vitubia I mean Vitubia the setting and not Vitubia the planet. There's a few ways that I can think of off the top of my head about how Vitubia as a planet can relate to CVT40K
>Vitubia is a terra like place of cultural importance for most space faring faction, may or may not be in a state of ruin. Control over it is symbolic
>Vitubia is just another planet with little to no importance, might be the ancestry of space faring races but nobody really cares
>Vitubia is a place of cultural influence to the point where wars are waged over who has the right to claim it, there might even be multiple Vitubias with multiple different empires claiming it to be the origin point of man
All in all, making CTV40k a canonical reality of Vitubia the setting seems like a bad move, both tonally and in terms of keeping a consistent canon

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>>42659003
I found some useful sources for those that want to understand the Köppen-Geiger Climate Classification better.

1. Basic Guide for beginners:
https://files.catbox.moe/geva7l.pdf

I think this is a nice introduction for those who are just trying to figure out what stuff means without getting into the Autism that others discuss.

2. More in-depth overview from an Appendix,
https://files.catbox.moe/4usquv.pdf

This is a much more in depth overview of the Köppen-Geiger Climate Classification from British Columbia/Yukon Open Authoring Platform (Available at no cost to the faculty and staff in B.C. and the Yukon for the purpose of creating and revising open textbooks and other open educational resources. https://opentextbc.ca/pressbooks/chapter/content-disclaimer/)) that is extremely well done in my opinion and comes with a variety of resources at the bottom such as maps of the Köppen-Geiger Climate Classification. It also includes the next one.

3. Simple Köppen-Geiger Climate Classification Decision Making System
https://files.catbox.moe/9alq7d.pdf
Incredibly helpful for worldbuilding, but also short. Use at your own discretion. I have no clue what the pages they are talking about are but I would use #2 for help along with #4.

4. Glossary of Terms for Physical Geography and Earth Science
https://files.catbox.moe/5fkbu9.pdf
I think this is just useful in general for all of us when it comes to knowing what a term even means, and is a good tool. I would recommend it, nonetheless.

Whomever controls the useful resources page, please add these. I might make a Climate and Biome Classification Guide myself that will include these among others.

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>>42756963
I honestly am more in favour of vitubia the solar system instead of one planet and it being entirely seperated from the canon of planet vitubia.

It means no wonky canon stuff with the lore of both projects and a clean slate to work with.

It also means everyone can write themselves on planets without one planet being the main planet or the need to have originated from it

[Anonymous No.]

CLEAR

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>>42759316
This does look like the way to go, making it connected is a bit of a hassle and would probably be too much to do while its just getting set up

[Anonymous No.]

>>42747632
Not really, it's not all or nothing. I'll give an example.
Person A wants to write for KFP, and writes that space KFP originated from Vitubia. Person A wants to write about /towa/, and writes that Kenzokus came from the Tower system, not from Vitubia as they are in Base Vitubia. Both of them can do that, and acknowledge each other.
>>42752542
With the no canon rules, I don't think there's a way for cvt40k to be a canon part of Base Vitubia. The question is more "to what extent is cvt40k a continuity of Base Vitubia vs being a completely separate universe".
>>42756963
Yeah, I don't think it would fit with Base Vitubia to even try to make cvt40k a canon part of it, even if it was doable.
>>42759316
The nations don't really need to originate from it, it's just an option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42762703
What if person A wants to write about past relations between /kfp/ and /towa/ on vitubia but person b wants /towa/ to have never been on vitubia but entirely from space?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42763336
Then, there might be a slight contradiction between the two, and that's okay. Maybe if the KFP writer want to write about space Towa as well he might say space towa and vitubia towa are entirely different people who happened to worship the same goddess. The point of no canon rule is to help smooth out those kind of small wrinkles.

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>>42763554
I still don't think that is a particular good approach or am a fan of it. I wouldn't be very fond of wanting to write a start of being entirely from space with no prior happening on vitubia only to have others write or reference the lore from vitubia and then having those contradictions when i want to write with them. I would prefer the overall fresh start and those that want to give nods towards the old lore still can do that in their writing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42763963
What is the difference between
>have others write or reference the lore from vitubia
>those that want to give nods towards the old lore still can do that in their writing
? In my view, those are practically the same thing.

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>>42659153
https://rentry.org/Moutons-Sharpshooters

I am excited to present this! I have had a lot of thoughts about lore and had some trouble thinking of things because it rather seemed like everything was getting too serious and personal over the smallest things rather than having fun. It made working with other's a bit stressful and sucked a lot of fun out of the project for me.

BUT, after a short break and some talking with others, I have got something really special here. This is a not only a war story, but a story about the men and (one woman) that are part of this group I have made. I am even more excited that this story is part of the greater project by the ladies in NijiJP known as the Heishin War, and proud that I can express my own heritage somewhat through fiction here.

Not anchoring yet because I might change the name of the story, and I don't know how many of y'all are even interested given that the sci fi stuff seems more exciting to you right now, but I still am happy and proud to share the introduction to this!

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>>42766266
did you really need to include a biased and demeaning perspective on the anons who actual want to take this project seriously, and did you really need to include this
>I don't know how many of y'all are even interested given that the sci fi stuff seems more exciting to you right now
as if you are shitting on them for having fun with scifi and think your own work is more important?

seriously, this kind of attitude is what has led to problems in the past. why even include such petty and worthless statements when you can just say "i am excited to present this, this is my overall plan, and i am thankful, etc." consider not loading your personal feelings on to things because i personally won't read this now because of this rather incendiary introduction you gave and i encourage others to not until you apologize or clarify why you felt the need to even say those things.

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>>42766799
ogey

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>>42766266
It looks fine except for the part about the Abbeville rifle being 100 years ahead of current tech. Just look into 1750 era rifles and change it, it's just going to cause timeloops. Interested in more.

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>>42766799
Tend to agree, not a good look honestly but I wouldn't consider it intentional.

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>>42766940
Be sure to go and tell /who/, /inf/, /2434/, and others with 1850 era tech to do the same since apparently something that he personally discussed numerous times is wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42767310
Except they don't. We have already discussed inf and who enough. They have valid reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42766799
Honestly this. I don't see how anyone can complain about the state of the thread when they actively do things to shit on people that just want to write and have fun bouncing ideas off of each other.
I don't think focusing on getting an apology is healthy though, it's energy better spent working on the CVT40K than dwelling on someone else's emotional volatility

[Anonymous No.]

>>42768633
TLDR JUST WRITE NIGGERS

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>>42764037
For me there is a big difference between having something set as the base principle of the setting that i have to ignore or retcon and hope others aknowledge it or it being set as a clear difference but giving nods to it, to go with the age of sigma/40k example: the orcs in both settings share many similarities and nods towards each other but they also are clearly setup as 2 different things with no relations and also have their clear differences that would not work if they were in the same setting

>>42766266
I like the hook in the end a lot with how the military man will get the youngsters into the army, will he tickle their ego? Promise fame? etc. That said, while i know its only the prolugue to get to the actual story, i feel its a bit too "smooth" which kind of breaks the immersion of it being a story and sounds like stuff will potentially go too well all the time which can kill tension. He was a troublemaker till 12 but imneaditly gets along and behaves with the uncle, i feel it would be more natural if the two also start out rougher because of his behavior and the uncles view of the pampered rich. Same with his shootibg ability, to have him beat seasoned man wirh more years of experience than he is even alive with just a few years of shootibg goes a bit beyond being a prodigy. Overall however i am interested to see where the main plot goes and how that story hook at the end plays out

[Anonymous No.]

>>42770125
The base principle is just that there is a planet called Vitubia. None of the main Vitubia lore would be considered true by default, people just have to possibility to grab stuff from it if they want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42770125
I'm still having some trouble understanding where the main point of conflict is here when 40k years in the future would have passed but it seems like the actual status of Vitubia as a planet would need to be defined in some way to avoid these little conflicts and maybe a clarification on what "passing canon" or "transient canon" means as a concept.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42770734
That already is wonky as hell when there is a planet called vitubia that is not old lore vitubia except when people want it to be that.

>>42770751
Because my nation has people that technicly could live these 40k years as well as that i set lumi as being on vitubia. There would also be cassandra who iscstill roaming vitubia and able to live those years or the robosa

[Anonymous No.]

>>42771371
>That already is wonky as hell when there is a planet called vitubia that is not old lore vitubia except when people want it to be that.
Why is that wonky?
>Because my nation has people that technicly could live these 40k years as well as that i set lumi as being on vitubia. There would also be cassandra who iscstill roaming vitubia and able to live those years or the robosa
Well, in cvt40k you could just make it so the onobots and Lumi were never on Vitubia. That's fine. And at the same time the Sanallites could still do something with Cass if they want.
>>42770751
If we went with the SCP approach to canon, there'd be a limited amount of "truths", which might be stuff like what planets and solar systems there are, and then everything else is not constrained by any particular canon. The writers can still reference others' work and agree on things obviously, but it's not a formal requirement.

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>>42771371
So again, I think it does come down to if Vitubia is a planet or a star system and how that planet relates to the world as a whole if it is. I think taking aspects of your lore from Vitubia the Setting would be totally fine but I'm leaning more towards using the planet as something else to make for more interesting plot details.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42772083
>I'm leaning more towards using the planet as something else
Any ideas? I agree it's probably one of those things that should be laid out.

[Anonymous No.]

meanwhile im editing the sapling stories right now. I saw some of them had outdated stuff and needed fixing. Have fun with space while i write about magic my fellow gentlemen

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>>42772068
i mean in the end this is how i feel about it simply as. if i am the onyl one that feels that way and everyone rather have it as stated then that should be it, it should not change just for my whim, i am fine with this simply not being for me

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>>42772742
Hey, I’ve had some thoughts on the setting of the sci-fi AU.
Don’t know if the date has been definitively set in stone yet but maybe it could be set at an earlier date than 40k years in the future? I don’t have a good grasp on time so I don’t know how far in the future I’m thinking but maybe it could be set in a time period where the home systems of most are developed and terraforming, FTL, and other cool sci-fi stuff is present, but some of the systems relatively nearby haven’t been fully mapped out yet and space stations are still being made.
I’m not very smart when it comes to this kind of thing so feel free to disregard

[Anonymous No.]

>>42773161
This isn't set yet, maybe we can go for a different Vitubia. It's not a huge difference, really. A writer could just set his thread's "main vitubia" lore in this different vitubia and it's effectively the same thing desu. The fact that it doesn't make much of a difference is why I don't think this would be an issue for you.
>>42773217
40k years is very much a number picked for the funni reference, we could go for a shorter timeframe. I'm also not sure how much of the sector would be colonized by 40k years, since we don't actually know when space exploration began. Maybe Vitubia spent 37k years recovering from the cataclysm and space exploration is semi recent. Or maybe it took 30k years.
Having maybe 2-3 dozens of systems well-developed with hundreds remaining undeveloped or unexplored sounds somewhat reasonable, but that's just a number.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42773896
i mean i already told you before that this really is more of a feel thing and it jsut doesn't feel liek a fresh start or clean sheet with the old planet effectively being there and it being a matter of ignoring the old lore

[Anonymous No.]

>>42774208
Is it better if it's framed as a fresh start and a new planet, but writers are allowed to bring in elements from the other setting if they want to?

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>>42772742
Forgot to get back to you but I'd much rather Vitubia the planet be used as a kind of "legend" that different space empires make claims to but nobody is quite sure if it exists for real in the context that they believe it does or where it truly is. There's a "Vitubia" under the control of an HLGG empire, one for the Nijis, and possibly one that's in conflict between VSJ+ and other indie powers. I think the true Vitubia could be where many natural druidic societies have resided and are dedicated to preserving as the birthplace of their beliefs which not many know about and which they intend to keep hidden.

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>>42774208
>>42774302
Maybe the issue is that we're referring to it as Vitubia instead of a new spacey name to differentiate it.

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>>42768633
you really think that shits on anyone. Fragile ego.

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>>42770125
Thanks, I got inspired from All Quiet on the Western Front (spoiler) for the hook. Yea, you are right about me making it too clean. I should go back and edit it more. I sort of had the whole "He defeated a bunch of veterans" as a Tall Tale kind of aspect, however. That is something I want to convey, the American Tall Tale a little bit.

As for the concerns about attitude, I am not shitting on anyone. there is nothing wrong with the sci-fi stuff at all, and that was never supposed to be taken that way other than to say that I didn't think many would be interested currently. This is the problem I have, somehow things get personal over minute things like me saying something like that and suddenly it becomes about how someone is so rude for not having perfect wording. It's the ultimate strawman.

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>>42776753
No one cares about that at this point

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>>42776825
Well, I felt like responding to it since I don't like being strawmanned.

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>>42775910
The idea of various empires claiming they have the "Holy Land" under control sounds like a lot of fun, and something I could see happening regardless of what we do with Vitubia. Vitubia in 40k being some kind of hidden naturalistic Gaia is cool, but I'm not sure that's something that needs to be established in the basis of the setting, I think that is something the people writing about said druidic societies could establish themselves... Not sure, though.
>>42776458
Might be. Even if it was the same planet, it probably wouldn't keep the same name for 40k years. What else could we call it? Vitubis? Veetub? Veytios?

[Anonymous No.]

https://rentry.org/vdvn3
I did the initial meeting.

A reminder for the saplings

Sherah-Lead Risuner/witch
Hamdani-Second in command and was the captain of the first visit
Visus-initial tour guide of the saplings, a ranger
Sycamore- A nurturer? (correct me if wrong) who is acting as the leader in this story

Saplings. Tell me if I did anything wrong. I was planning on splitting this up into different parts. I dont want to rush this as it is really fun for me and I want to take a route that makes sense. Like I said before I want this to be about discovery and exchange between the two and the last thing I intend is to make this whole thing a "fetch quest". Ill make sure to answer any questions. Also no need to anchor since its just an edited story already in the docs. The ones I write from now on will be new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42777237
>What else could we call it?
That insignificant rock in the middle of nowhere, space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42777342
dont worry squirrelman, ill take a look over it soon and give you so feedback.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42777342
Reading now, will give feedback in a bit

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>>42777427
Your not a sapling kek, who cares

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>>42777414
Bit wordy, doesn't even make a nice acronym.

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>>42777237
>Veytios
Sounds like a mexican cereal brand.
Maybe something like Vtubion or Vitubious, something that hints at words like Nebula or planet names that get that spacy vibe.

[Anonymous No.]

>onolumi brought up in scifi
>not yellow lumi, who is a space chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>42777547
>Vitubious
That name is bit... dubious
I kinda dig Vitubion though, makes me think of Albion.

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>>42777342
Very nice squirrelman, watch out on some words. It’s optimistic not optimal kek. You have improved a lot!

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>>42777857 (me)
Fixing word issues usually can be done reading it aloud, i did that on my shit earlier

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>>42777656
you want space chuuba go for that one indie who streams rocket launches. Heck i think theres a thread about her and she got a big accomplishment or something

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>>42777857
Ah thanks. I usually only read it once and then call it done. I dont want to be the kind of guy that just edits and edits so much i panic over it being perfect

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>>42777656
Every chuuba should reasonably be brought up in sci fi, space chuubas specifically might have special ways to traverse the universe unique to them like creating space highways that they can charge other people for using

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>>42777942
>>42777983
The point is that no one even has mentioned her and she is a space thief KEK.

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>>42777974
Well i had to edit a bit, but thats after i read it out loud. But like i said, its good overall and has a nice feel to itz

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>>42777983
>Driving down San's space highway

[Anonymous No.]

ah ok. Shes an official supporter for a rocket program. That honestly fucking huge. Usui Clear i kneel.

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>>42778017
I mean nobodies mentioned Milky or Iofi yet, if you got some cool sci fi lore it'd be nice to hear
>>42778062
Why go there when the Cosmic Cleavage is ready to be traversed?

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>>42777656
This is a holofag discussion. Onolumi is only brought up because of retrosama

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>>42778251
That road is pretty bumpy, the highway is nice and smooth. Gets you from one end of the galaxy to the other as well.

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>>42778251
Usui Clear, Aki, and Iofi are the ones I know. Moona too I suppose.

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>>42777489
Tirmos
That Insignificant Rock in the Middle Of Space

[Anonymous No.]

For Lumi, its pretty obvious that her followers would be premier space pirates and mercenaries. Can easily visualize one of them being like Jango Fett.

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>>42778346
holy holobrony.
>>42778425
Kind of cool to imagine this actually. Imagining them at some seedy bar.

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>>42778563
wow its like the board is full of them. kek

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>>42778641
yeah, maybe you guys should get out of your bubble LMAO.

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>>42778425
Why would her followers be like that instead of retro onobots?

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>>42778691
Tried Rosemi, she ignores SC's
Tried Enna, she hates her fans
Tried Tenma, actually amazing streamer

I am mostly a holobrony but I do watch others. Kaela, Kiki, and Kokone are my 3 main girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42779184
KKK

[Anonymous No.]

>>42779449
Based as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>42777342
All in all it looks good Risuner! Was a nice read and the dialog was straightforward and to the point.

Couple of notes:
- Naming conventions for Saplings are usually Latin/Roman based or at least sounding. Sycamore is fine, though if you feel like changing it an easy pivot would be to use some sort of mix or shortening of the scientific name for the species (Platanus occidentalis)
- Sapling society is primarily matriarchal, so most shamans would be female. But its not unheard of for males to be shamans occasionally, so Sycamore being a guy is fine.
- Ya'll are gonna be here for a whole year? Make sure you mention that at some point to Sycamore because special accommodations will have to made for your crew to prevent the saplification process from affecting you too harshly. Even so, if youre staying a whole year, green tails might be inevitable. (Though maybe with your gems you could redirect the curse/blessing into another focus point? It'd have to be a living thing though... Might be an interesting discussion point...)
- A Nurturer would be a sapling that's already turned Ent, but they would care more about the forest's health than talking with anyone. A Treant would probably be closer to what you're thinking of, but either way, they wouldn't be a shaman. Sycamore can be just another sapling, though depending on the age you want him to be in the story he'd definitely have some saplification signs (up to you how you wanna color this, horns, hooves, fur, leaves, feathers, bark skin, its all on the table, picrel is just an example, doesn't have to be exactly like that).

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>>42779543
>most shamans would be female
Easy change
>special accommodations
Hoomens were kind enough to let us stay at a camp directly outside your borders. Any risuner who gets any sign of turning into a sapling immediately runs out and awaits for the effect to go away then runs back in.
>Nurturer would be a sapling that's already turned Ent
I see. Well again these are easy fixes. I will do the next part latr today and hopefully finish it by tomorrrow

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>>42778743
There could be both.

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>>42780780
>>42778743
The fact that both of you think that anyone talking about a Lumi is referring to Onolumi is brainrottingly baffling when she isn't even the most notable Lumi in the industry (Finnish Lumi) or the more notable on this board (Kaneko Lumi, the person that is clearly being talked about.)

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>>42781012
yellow woman bad

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>>42781012
Both of those are literal whos in this project, while onolumi had a writter since the early days. So seethe about your yellow woman not getting the recognition you think she deserves in your own little corner.

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>>42781460
This is literally untrue about yellow woman, ala Megas’s Oshi who was around longer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42781530
>Megas’s
Yes, a literal who

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>>42781460
the ONLY yellow woman that matters HASNT POSTED IN DAYS! I miss my lolianon wife alice…

[Anonymous No.]

>>42781530
>>42781460
>>42781633
Actually, its founders oshi you fucking tards. This is why yellow woman rules this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42781775
Not to mention, sol and even people like meatbro and aegbro like her. Seethe more chuds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42781841
>>42781775
Onolumi still more relevant to this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42781700
She'll be gone for another 2 weeks. Her sister's orders.

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>>42781775
>>42781841
Was that not pic related?
Also this argument is entirely irrelevant as the blunt fact is that her name doesn't get mentioned enough and she isn't posted much.
Now how about instead of seething, you whop up some spicy lore about space?

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>>42782008
gnome posts lumi all the time kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42781989
she got corrected:.. ToT

[Anonymous No.]

Also, the reason onolumi was recognized first compared to Kaneko Lumi can barely be attributed to a comparison on popularity or knoweldgability, its literally just because she was brought up in an example that had onobots in them. Trying to make it a weird popularity thing is some top tier level insecure behavior
>>42782276
...gnome posts mai chan all the time. It's not that I'm saying its not true but you've gotta have a bit more than that right?

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>>42782008
Not any of them, but i did make lore about yellow lumi above.
>>42778425

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>>42782417
Anon, I made the first comment where i just said Lumi. Onobots were never mentioned in it and someone replied it didnt make sense because i didnt include onobots, which i obviusly didnt because I wasnt talking about that Lumi.

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>>42782465
This sounds boring…

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>>42782592
I'm talking about before that, Lumi was already being used to refer to onobots and Onolumi >>42772068 it makes sense that without any more context, someone would be confused as to why that would be suggested for lore

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>>42782861
That’s fair, but given that yellow lumi was mentioned just prior to my post, it is surprising to me that it was the natural conclusion is was talking about onolumi. Anyways forget it, what do you think of Lumi Mercenaries that i mentioned

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>>42783069
they are boring.

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>>42783069
Space mercenaries/pirates are always based, I'm interested in seeing what they'd shape up to being since there are a few chuubas that would probably opt towards that kind of vibe.
It could develop into something like the greyjoys where the piracy is part of their religion, ie, lumi wants her children to plunder the stars and conquer in their wake.

[Anonymous No.]

frankly, i liked this discussion better when it was holos only. Haaton’s idea was good because of that.

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>>42774302
depends on what you mean with elements, if its still just "yeah we are from /morig/ on vitubia but 40k years later from the planet that canonicly is vitubia, at least to those that don't ignore it" then framing it as "fresh start" is kinda meaningless. if its just taking parts of the old lore and convert it to the new setting then sure, why not? as long as its still clear that both are sperated from each other.

>>42776753
i am noot that well read in books that i would know that. as for the tall tale aspect, is the whole story just meant as such or just that one thing? if its the latter then i would make that somehow more clear because just from reading itself that isn't clear at all and without that aspect it jsut becmes the story of a character too good to be itneresting. even with that aspect i would build in stuff that makes it moore over the top and more obvious because even for a tall tale, ahving this super clean and smooth past also isn't exactly interesting from my view. at least from my view a tall tale is fun for the boast aspect of it and the laugh it generates for being so over the top

>>42777656
well yeah fo course i would bring her up, also onolumi also is space themed, she is an android built by aliens from outer space

>>42782592
i made the first mention of lumi due to the space setting and my issue with having her involved in old vitubia, that is why people thought of her most likely

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>>42783370
That’s sort of how I saw it too. Becoming a famous pirate/mercenary sounds like a natural goal for most of her followers. I think that alone has a lot of story potential and cool lore concepts.
>>42783478
Considering yellow woman here means something else, ill stick to calling your lumi onolumi.

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>>42783478
Yeah i fixed it actually, to where it says “legend has it.” Instead of just going matter of fact. That was a good catch about it being too smooth though, thats not what i am after at all. Its going to be a story that has elements of the horrors of war but also some legend like qualities to it. Hoping i can combine them effectively.

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>>42783397
what part of this discussion was holos only? It's been almost entirely about the setting rather than any specific chuuba.
>"yeah we are from /morig/ on vitubia but 40k years later from the planet that canonicly is vitubia, at least to those that don't ignore it"
I don't think anyone had this in mind, or at least I hope not. My idea was that none of the fandoms or generals would say they're "from vitubia", they'd have a planet and a homeworld or a host of worlds and planets. My idea is that /morig/ would have Moriji but instead of an island, it would be planet wide and have the name "Death World 6" or somethin like that.

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>>42783835
my point is that the discussions are usually better when it is holo only because the others tend to pollute the discussion needlessly like yellow woman fans did above or retro worrying about canon.

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>>42783397
Then go make your own thread where it is Hololive worldbuilding general. We do not care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42784050
>>42784102
See this, gtfo holobrony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42784176
>>42784102
see? my point exactly here. thats for the proof nijinigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42784050
>>42784285
I wouldn't say the canon business was especially disruptive as it was and is still a decently genuine concern for how to work with the new setting, I'm also decently sure its a schizo whose trying to disrupt conversation doing the weird holocope thing since they've been noticeably failing to get any attention lately and this is a go to for quick drama.

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>>42784357
Nigga, you are talking to a schizo you twat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42784357
>thinks someone who legitimately wants holos only is not a schizo
>accuses me of being a schizo for telling that jackass to fuck off

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>>42783634
fair enough, i jsut call her lumi since i am used to it
>>42783791
i mean that makes that one aspect at least not as smooth but i still think it could overall be improved in different spots like his relations with his uncle and such, as for the competitions in his youth, either have it be that he could compete with them but not just beat the outright to make the elgend seem more grounded or to go full in on the tall tale aspect make it ridiclous like beating them while shooting over his shoulder or while blindfolded to really drive the ridicilous part in. at least thats my take and after all this is the prologue and not the main meat so its mor eminor in the grand scheme of things, don't feel forced or take this as me hating on it

>>42783835
i mean having "vitubia" but 40k years later that people can include and include things form the old lore to me implies that this would be not jsut fine but also encouraged. what you say is basicly is what i mean with it being seperate from the actual vitubia lore and not having it as the base fr the setting at all.

also its not death world 4?

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>>42784357
my point is still clear, we need to restrict these conversations to holo only until they are fully mapped out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42784736
Oh of course its not you hating! It’s friendly criticism! I like that a lot.

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>>42784357
Deadbeat, you continue to baffle me at how fucking retarded you are over and over by legitimately thinking someone who is calling for “Holos only” and used the word nijinigger is not some troll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42784979
He might be stupid, but he drove the clique from the thread so he is unfathomably based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42785171
And you're retarded as well if you think he drove anyone from anything, the boys are just taking breaks because ya know real life exists. They'll be back to make you seethe soon enough.

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>>42784803
you can't really restrict a discussion from anybody, aside from just continuing a different discussion and going on without acknowledging it happening, I disagree that its necessary to do so but if you think it is, you'd be better off continuing your own lore bits. If you want to start mapping out holos and their planets, that'd be great

[Anonymous No.]

>>42785305
my overall point is that most of the timeloops come whenever non-holos are talked about. heck, i would get rid of holoid from this conversation too since their writers are malicious in general. look at our thread and see who are postive posters ans who are negative posters; a common pattern emerges. im glad that the clique is gone, they are toxic as hell and would have ruined this conversation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42784979
You didn't respond to who you think you did kek.
>>42783478
>depends on what you mean with elements, if its still just "yeah we are from /morig/ on vitubia but 40k years later from the planet that canonicly is vitubia, at least to those that don't ignore it" then framing it as "fresh start" is kinda meaningless. if its just taking parts of the old lore and convert it to the new setting then sure, why not?
Well, the thing is that if taking parts is allowed, but taking lots of parts isn't allowed, we kinda have to define "how much" is allowed, which seems like it would be kinda arbitrary. Seems easier to just let the writers do what they would prefer, you know?
>>42783835
>My idea was that none of the fandoms or generals would say they're "from vitubia"
If someone wants to do that, why not? I think it would be nice if the writers had many possible ways to go about this. Some might be from deep space, or native to another part of the Nebula, or others might have ties to Vitubia. All seem potentially fun to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42785608
Oh even better, its Pinkman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42784736
It can be any number of Death World but it probably would be Death World 4, I think you'd be prevented from just replicating your old lore by the fact that it's so far into the future. Unless your nation had some kind of high tech quality, being able to build mechs and gigantic space ships to colonize planets as well as any number of technologies related to your chuuba is likely to stop anyone from just replicating their old lore. Moriji would have several different planets under its rule and even if there's a capital planet that is essentially just a copy and paste, there's still the fact that the capital planet has to have some governing system and such that base Moriji from vitubia would lack.
>>42785608
>If someone wants to do that, why not?
Mostly because it calls back to the question of, what the hell is going on with Vitubia? If we would have someone say "I'm from Vitubia" how Vitubia acts and in relation to who is pretty important

[Anonymous No.]

>>42785777
>vitubia
Pretty obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42785868
dear god she lives on while dead…

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

Looks like I'm going to have a very busy weekend. Might be a while before I can publish anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42786488
Space Highways?

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>42786541
Building a PC and installing software. Early spring cleaning. Also I had a family tribunal where I'm going to be punished for reasons I will not disclose because its petty bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42785608
>>42785777
well as i have said, i personaly rather have this be a seperate setting contained in itself rather than just an offshoot extension of old vitubia and rather have vitubia as the name of the solar system and each planet clearly not be old vitubia at all and then people can give nods to the old vitubian lore as they see fit, jsut as namign the solar system vitubia already would be a nod towards the old vitubia setting, then have several different iterations of how much old vitubia is an actual thing for each writer and have wonky canon.

because if everyone is jsut writing their own alternate version parallel to each other then its not really collaborative world building anymoore but jsut each person writing alone and only overlapping when it fits and then you may as well just go to /wg/.

having partial inconsistency is fine, one person says a town got 10 buildings with 50 people in it and another saying its 12 buildings with 38 is not really an issue as long as everyone can agree there is a town with people there, but if the bas eof the setting already has a planet that some need to ignore for their stuff, others got their own interpretation for wha tit actually is like the idea above with several planets named like that for different empires and then again others that have it straight up being vitubia from old vitubia lore with all the lore from that setting intact, then i personaly don't feel very motivated to wrtie for that

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

What if we have different ages in Vitubia with different tech levels? Or do you think jumping around time would make writing history a mess.

I'm just sick of rules, rules, rules.

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>>42787092
I think the way I'm seeing it is that it's essentially impossible to replicate your nation in a way that they'd say "Moriji from Vitubia" without that leading into a host of questions that would change it from Old Vitubia as a setting. In my view, even if Old Vitubia exists, it doesn't restrict anyone in any particular way anymore than Old Vitubia restricted anyone else. If someone wants to say, "I'm from Vitubia" they can't just say they're from a copy and paste of their country from Vitubia because establishing what the hell Vitubia is at all is necessary to determining what their nation is.
I'm also in favor of a separate setting and don't intend to have my own nation have Vitubia as a lore entry but I don't see it's existence as making it canonically wonky or the same setting unless the issue of Old Vitubia is never tackled and explained as a group as to what it means and what it is. Its like how in Star Wars humans are definitely a thing and are all over the place but there's no mention of Earth (to my knowledge), I think its too early to really decide that the setting isn't for you when it seems like you have some interesting ideas for it but it's always your choice what you want to write and I wont try and pressure you into changing your viewpoint just because I see it differently.

[Anonymous No.]

I can work with that name

[Anonymous No.]

>>42785777
>how Vitubia acts and in relation to who is pretty important
It's just like any other planet, except it has a longer history. Whatever is going on there depends on what is written about it, and what is written about it doesn't constrain what others can write about it due to the canonicity rules. Do you think it would need special treatment compared to other planets?
>>42787758
Same desu.
>>42787092
Ah... Okay, let's say there's someone who says their nation originates from the Earth-like planet in the Vitubia system from 40 000 years ago, would that be okay in your book?
>>42788142
Damn, that's perfect kek.

[Anonymous No.]

meanwhile im just having fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>42787758
>What if we have different ages in Vitubia with different tech levels? Or do you think jumping around time would make writing history a mess.
It would be pretty messy which is why I don't think anyone has really made the effort to do so yet despite the desire for a generally higher tech level. The idea of a dubious canon is intended to let people write different scenarios in CVT40k without having to worry about the canonicity of all parties involved given the sheer scope of a proposed space setting, or at least that's what it sounded like to me.
>>42788207
How Vitubia is treated depends entirely on if its this Vitubia aka a Vitubia with several different pantheons and cultures that interact with each other or something entirely different. What are the exact canonicity rules because they might just wave away this issue, the main problem is that if someone wanted to say that they're an undiscovered empire that's traversing a new galaxy or just now branching out into intergalactic diplomacy, having them on Vitubia would affect their idea of what their nation is and the future writings they can do for it. They'll have to ignore what was written about them on Vitubia or Vitubia would be retconned to have everything but them but the problem would also occur if another nation had the same idea of not being present.
>>42788241
I'm having lots of fun, you're just bad at telling discussions apart from dramatics

[Anonymous No.]

>>42787916
earth actually is a thing in star wars, there is a reason every movie starts with "a galaxy far far away", but that is besides the point. what then in your book stops people from doing that, because just because this is sci-fi doesn't mean people cannot jsut take their nation 1 to 1, maybe add some stuff that changed or evolved over the time and then simply have that as their lore for it?

>>42788207
i mean from what kind of planet anyone comes or if even from one at all is not for me to decide, you want an earthlikke planet? then sure go ahead. but in my view it should be "planet X" that is jsut as importance then any other planet on a base principle, not "vitubia" that all the old vitubia lore happened on and the "main" planet of the setting

[Anonymous No.]

>>42766266
Looking forward to it!

>>42788207
I’m told it’s something called the meme magic here

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>>42788735
>The idea of a dubious canon is intended to let people write different scenarios in CVT40k without having to worry about the canonicity of all parties involved given the sheer scope of a proposed space setting, or at least that's what it sounded like to me.
That's basically the idea, though I prefer the clearer term "no canon" as opposed to "dubious canon" kek.
>How Vitubia is treated...
Yep, this is a conversation that should be had. In my opinion, nothing in Main Vitubia needs to be considered "canon" (what is called a ground truth in the intro doc) besides its existence. Using your example, someone who wants to write a society alien to Vitubia would definitely not be forced to be a part of it. Instead of picking what to "ignore" from Vitubia lore, it's more like we're picking what to "include". It's additive. Like, saplings establishing that there's still a cradle of fauna in the /uuu/ forest after all this time would be a (theoretical) example of that. That doesn't mean that the /tsunX/ kingdom also ever existed in Vitubia.
>>42788874
>it should be "planet X" that is jsut as importance then any other planet on a base principle, not "vitubia" that all the old vitubia lore happened on and the "main" planet of the setting
"Main" planet of the setting is a bit misleading, since the setting encompasses the whole sector, so that can be removed. And as I mention above, I don't see it as the planet where all the old lore happened. It's more like, the planet where if you want old lore to have happened, that's where you'd set it.
>>42788919
>meme magic here
Yeah... Be careful, it's dangerous stuff.

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>>42788874
>what then in your book stops people from doing that
Simply put, you literally can't just make a one to one duplicate with the same dynamics and attitude. If we're using Moriji as an example, they can still be constantly fighting against others and have more or less the same governmental structure as they did before but if they're capable of being a space faring nation than they'd have had to conquered their planet and advanced to the point of having the ability to mine enough metal to create their ships and to have either developed their own form of ftl travel (probably something called a death drive or a mortis engine) or have been taught it by another civilization. Any nation capable of getting to the point of space exploration which we're assuming most nations are has a history of how it was done and what their specific beliefs did to shape their culture on a planetary scale, even if the Moriji space sailor is essentially just the same as the Moriji sailor in Vitubia, he's got an entirely different history that can shape him in any number of ways and might not even be from the Planet X which is the main Moriji based off of the one from vitubia, he could be part of a mining colony or a runaway noble or just a trader whose done a good enough job to allow himself to venture farther and trade boldly. The wealth of creative options is so vast that I'd be genuinely surprised if someone managed to dodge every and all creative option when it comes to sci-fiying up their nation.

[Anonymous No.]

Inb4 saplings/risuners become space elves like eldar and use magics

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>>42788241
OG i swear that any discussion that doesnt involve you, you have to go insert yourself in smugly as “look at me, i am not causing any problems and having fun. Be jealous.”

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>>42793192
this is referred to as shitposting. OG puts in minumum effort and generates butthurt. Welcome to the internet

[Anonymous No.]

Hey Sapling, you here by any chance?

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>>42793938
>OG puts in minumum effort and generates butthurt.
I put in no effort and do the same.
OG is just too autistic to recognize and differentiate between conflict and discussion.
>>42792770
Risuners would not be anywhere close to the eldar, I'm not sure they'd even have a place in the wider galaxy since the idea that they'd develop enough to have orbital missiles and just tell anyone that tries to contact them to fuck off sounds pretty on point. I think Eldar would be literally just Aki Rosenthal if you were looking for the most literal one to one, even in terms of her having a generally lower fanbase before reddit savior fagging occurred but that's an off of the top of my head holo and she has no lore in the archives whatsoever to base her civ on.

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>>42795721
Actually yeah that seems pretty on point. I could see them having orbital cannons and shit shooting anything that comes close

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>>42794963
Yea sup

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>>42796583
You mind explaining this post in a little more detail?
>We can hide our villages by moving the forests around us, but thats primarily because our forests are alive in an almost conscious way.
I think the best thing we could give you is a lot of soils from deeper within our forests. In the deep forests, just about anything planted will grow at an accelerated rate. While this effect wouldn't last forever outside of /uuu/, if we gave you some heavily invested with our chuubanite, you could take it back home and plant your trees in it, and our shamans could teach and train your risuners and your witch how to control the accelerated growth within our soil using chants and prayers (and possibly some blood sacrifices since youll probably need something boosting chuubanite) to shape the plants into large structures like houses, buildings, fortifications, etc. made out of solid wood.
Particularly
>and our shamans could teach and train your risuners and your witch how to control the accelerated growth within our soil

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>>42794963
Im playing FF14 but I have an eye on the thread, whats up?

>>42796583
Dude, really?

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>>42795877
That actually begs the question of if risuners would even have a method of picking up frequencies from outer space or if they only have a system capable of detecting asteroids and other potential orbital threats. If they could pick up a radio frequency of someone asking to contact them would they just ignore it or tell them to fuck off in their tree rat language and make warning shots?
>>42796927
that's a cool gif sapbro, are those templates made from /vt/?

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>>42797210
I think over time they could learn to salvage junk and use it for themselves. If anything they could just ask one single partner for help like they did with deadbeats.

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>>42796927
what class in FF14? Sorry just curious also i never played it but watched streams of indies playing it

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>>42796927
>>42796817
Answer

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>>42796927
>FF14
>sapling is Zaion confirmed
I hope you come back from your break quickly Zaion.

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>>42797620
Are you suggesting that risuners are some kind of magical space tree hobos that are salvaging their tech from space debris that crash lands on their planet or am I reading that the wrong way?

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>>42797931
Please touch my peepee zaion.

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>>42797987
I am suggesting they could be that? Something like the fallen from destiny 2 where they salvage everything? Its an idea, tell me if you have a better one.

wait a minute...is this my sexy bitch ri2ner?

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>>42797931
>sapling is Zaion
Uoooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ToT. Lolibaba bullying shotas! Needs rape correction.

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>>42798102
Bros... I miss Zaion so much bros... Playing final fantasy with my queen of jews was the happiest day of my life...

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>>42797931
ZAION MY BELOVED! AHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.]

for context, Zaion had a FFXIV stream before being suspended for being too based to live.

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>>42798787
What did she do?

[Anonymous No.]

WORLD BUILDING THREAD BTW

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>>42798869
No, i will have sex with the lolibaba tsundere

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>>42798822
rrats aside, unknown at this point. The closest thing in the public eye was probably using mods in FFXIV, but the statement doesn't seem to line up with that. She probably called her manager a nigger yellow monkey in private, like Vesper.

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>>42798973
She probably called IdolCorp a bunch of kikes off camera, called noor a nigger and went on a rant about troons.

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>>42798161
>be me
>space suner
>doing nothing but fucking, eating nuts, and getting fucked
>is good life
>look up, see big star in the sky
>not a star, a comet. streaking through the sky. very based. start calling out to tree house neighborhood to ask if anyone wants to have a commemorative orgy (third one this week)
>pause while you're about to mount your cousin
>man that comet's big actually kek
>hey wait a sec
>be obliterated as the remnants of a warship's severed gun mount slams into your house, creating a half mile impact crater and leveling a metric fuck ton of trees
>in the future, your kin will use the remnants of the gun mount found on your mass grave of a town to shoot an escape pod filled with civilians fleeing from pirates before using the remnants of that escape pod to reverse engineer the ability to receive a distress signal in the first place, just to ignore it and keep shooting shit
>feels good man

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>>42796927
Basically this, if you have the time >>42796817

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>>42796817
SAPLING ANSWER THIS.

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>>42799094
Fuck, spacesuners are based.

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>>42799147
>>42799152
Nigger stop fucking samefagging. I hope the sapling ignores your ass just to spite you.

[Anonymous No.]

UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>42799340
Only one of those is me, OG.

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>>42796817
>>42797909
>We can hide our villages by moving the forests around us
We can move pretty much any living plant life in the forest by asking it to do so because we can communicate with the forests (some saplings more than others). This really only works within our borders because of the chuubanite in the soil (and secondhand, its respective radiation in our air).
>our shamans could teach and train your risuners and your witch
We could teach you some of our chants and rituals so that you could control how the seeds you plant in our soil grow during their accelerated process, but once the plant has grown and the chuubanite is spent, you won't be able to control it anymore. So you could grow some structures, but you wouldn't get the advantage of being able to move things after-the-fact like we can.

>>42797850
BLM main


wtf is a Zaion?

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>>42799340
OG, how can you samefag that fast?

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>>42799094
HOLY SHIT

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>>42799472
>BLM
NIGGER

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>>42799472
So can risuners use your magic outside of uuu

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>>42799472
Zaion is a NijiEN vtuber from their latest wave.

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>>42799472
Alrighty, thanks. Also, if you would indulge me for a bit more, what would
>our soil
mean in this context? Since it was a point of contention for a bit.

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>>42799752
this one was both absolute sex and based. have they said when she'll be released?

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>>42799727
Yes, you could get the accelerated plant growth, but once its spent, youre done

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>>42799867
Whenever I breed her. Soon that is.

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>>42799867
Not yet, but surely they can't hold her back that long. She's too powerful.

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>>42799966
then they have to rely on their own accelerated plant growth. In case your not aware sapling, thats risuners chuubanite power/magic

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>>42799752
Where is the uncensored version, for research purposes.

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>>42800148
They dont. 3x plant growth was phased out by war.

Actually, I have an evil plan. Lets plant a mint in uuu and risu.

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>>42799826
essentially, we'd send someone deep into one of the forests, and they would bring back some dirt for you

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>>42800403
So lets get this right, only sapling soil works.

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>>42800403
I see. Thank you, Sapling!

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>>42800311
nitrate soil is good fucking shit though. and actually, if the accelerated plant growh is gone then wtf is the nut tribute for. OG said that shit was to power up the acceleration of plants

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>>42800601
>wtf is the nut tribute for
That's their entire economy

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>>42800601
>nut tribute
Wasn't that to get a blowjob from Risu?

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>>42800601
Bro, I plant one mint and its joever for Risu with that plant growth.

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>>42800544
>>42800575
Quit samefagging cunt you shithead.

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>>42800869
Again, only one of those is me, OG.

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>>42800999
Yeah fucking right nigger lover. You just dont like it when things go my way and undermine me, making shit too complex.

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

OK cunt enough of your bullshit. I can block you on the cord but not here so time to leak some shit.

Sapling. You said that you would give us soil from deep within your forests because it grows fast. Thats cool. But are you willing to dig up a bunch of soil to fill up a bunch of boats? Thats a lot of fucking dirt to dig up.

Also I will ask this since I kind of have to. Is sapling soil absolutely necessary? I know you have a different magic system than the risuners but you are both magical plant based nations. Dirt is dirt and even if we cant have magic enhanced growth your magic rituals would still work in other places, even if at a slower rate or a different effect.

Cunt I will literally make 2x or 3x plant growth a thing again just to spite your nigger ass. Im the risu rep and i can do whatever the fuck I want.

You want to know why they said "in our soil" in that post? Well because whose else are going to use. Risuners are there so of course theyre going to use it. I said this in the cord as a reason and I will repost it here

>Ok let me explain this so that everyone can understand. If I go to my friends house and he teaches me how to plant carrots he is going to say "yeah just plant it in my garden" Does that mean that I need to take his fucking garden home with me if I ever want to plant carrots?

At the end of the day saplings will learn and use new magic and so will risuners. Fucking deal with it. I was planning on making some silly magical effects happen anyway since yes our chuubanite is not the same. Maybe instead of growing flowers we grow giant venus fly traps. I dont fucking know but I do know that im having fun experimenting with magic and I dont need niggers like you trying to derail it because your STILL butthurt that to this day you never got to cannibalize a risuner and your chink whore oshi graduated. Get fucked.

And with that ill be going to sleep. Goodnight everyone.

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>42801457
Man, you are one butthurt shitstain, aren't you?
My problem was never with you gaining whatever magic you want, it was with you asking for sapling input and then completely ignoring that input when it didn't allign with your vision for how the exchange would go.
And with that, I'll be going to sleep as well. Goodnight everyone.

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>>42801457
Entitled and childish behavior

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Ok you both are acting retarded.

Cunt shut the fuck up. OG and sapling we're having a good time until you had to be autistic about fucking dirt.

OG you are being very aggressive about the whole magic thing yourself
So let me be the only voice of reason here. Sapling said their dirt has acceleration. And once it gets used no more pepega speed plant growth. So I guess I don't know THEY WILL JUST GROW AT REGULAR SPEED!?

Boom. Case closed. If risuners don't haul a fuckload of dirt back then they can do whatever weird magic bullshit they want it will just be slower and like OG said the results may vary.

Lastly to the sapling. Please ignore the damn sanalite when he asks stupid shit like this. Him and OG fucking hate each other and have for a long time and it's just not worth your time and effort. Just please keep having fun with OG and don't let either of those idiots ruin what is honestly a good thing. Thank you and have a nice day.

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>>42802808
Uhhhh, yeah... I aint touching discord SCs with a ten foot pole in here....

>>42801457
I'll take some of your points into account, but um... maybe not tonight...

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god i fucking hate magic

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

I wonder if I should do a study about chuubanite and cellular reproduction later.

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>>42802808
voice of reason

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>>42803078
Same

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>>42803197
>study about chuubanite and cellular reproduction
Vitubia BioPunk?

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>42803476
I'll ask /meat/ later since regeneration's their thing.

[Anonymous No.]

its funny how yellow woman gets shit for less and takes it on the cheek while these two act like children.

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>>42803741
Yellow woman deserves it unironically for undermining the project

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>>42803682
Meatheads regen their body not their plants last time I checked. But I could be wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42766266
New bread

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>>42805025
Anon???

[Anonymous No.]

new bread
>>42804332
>>42804332
>>42804332