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40786743 No.40786743 [Reply] [Original]

What is the ultimate goal of Houshou Marine?
https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1613091216480161793

>> No.40786792

>>40786743
>https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1613091216480161793
i think you nailed it.
Or rather, I think wants to be the "it" getting nailed.

>> No.40786900

>>40786743
It may involve seggs

>> No.40786907

Seems like she got burnt out with streaming a and by extention her daily life a long time ago, depressed that she is past 30 years of age. It's a pity because I really thought these girls would be happy growing on youtube. I was terribly wrong and it pains me immensely.

>> No.40792477

>>40786907
>get to basically set your own schedule in regards to streams.
>still get burnt out.
seems kind of weak.

>> No.40795255

>>40786792
Underrated post

>> No.40795523

I don't know how she hasn't started an Fantia/Niconico yet. She would make a lot of money with her ass alone

>> No.40795735

>>40786743
in case you guys have learned nothing from Gura, they only ever streamed to get enough money to coast in life. They worked to get into Hololive, they worked to get money from their following, now theyre on EZ mode.

Just move on to a new chuuba so that you can keep being there for the fun part where they actually stream.

>> No.40795857
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40795857

>>40786907
>simps make woman rich
>she's saaaaaaad now because she wanted to be a hot slut 5 years ago but now she's rich enough to realize she actually really wanted the chads who are now dating women 5 years younger than her
Wow it's like giving women money is pointless because 50% of female doctors go on part-time leave to get married and have kids after paying off their debt, creating doctor shortages.

>> No.40795934
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40795934

I will save her womb... with my penis

>> No.40796095

>>40795857
That and 5ch antis spreading libel really got to her.

>> No.40796134

>>40786907
Look up the careers of Shirley Temple and Judy Garland, it should tell you all you need to know

>> No.40796265

Stop.
Watching.
Successful.
Vtubers.

They always stop streaming and just do it for for their own enjoyment eventually, which usually turns out to be never.

>> No.40796353

>>40786743
Losing her virginity

>> No.40796365

>>40796095
>libel such as "marine really likes sex"

>> No.40796437

>>40796134
Marine isn't a child star, she's just another millennial roastie who missed the window and now needs chad to save her.

>> No.40796461

ITT newfags who never watched a stream and dont know why she's streaming less

>> No.40797219

>>40786792
>talks about her fantasy of getting abducted by a big burly foreigner overseas with kiara
>wants to travel the world and "accumulate life experiences"
boys, we may finally have our chance to give marine that exotic gaikoku-chin she desires and save her from eternal loneliness

>> No.40797489

>>40786907
Women, if left to their own devices, get easily addicted to the eternal hunt of new stimuli, making their whole life revolve around that.

>> No.40797729

>>40796461
I mean, it does seem like she's lost her interest in streaming somewhat.

>> No.40797887

I am obsessed with this woman. Hopefully she doesn't get kidnapped before I can get to her.

>> No.40798276

>>40796461
>t. delusional, coping marine gachi
I've watched almost all of her streams since 2020 and thats why i can tell she's burnt out and she exaggerates her throat problems to hide it.

>> No.40798418

>>40797219
MARINE PLEASE COME TO AMERICA I CAN KIDNAP YOU AND SPANK YOUR ASS RED

>> No.40798507

>>40797489
Sounds like you, retard.

>> No.40799242

>>40797489
I am replying to the wisest man on earth right now, the king of online. The master of women

>> No.40800679

>>40797489
This

>> No.40801052

>>40786743
loving you

>> No.40802258
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40802258

>>40797219
I find it hilarious that she said that to kiara and then the next day she's like: "I want to travel the world to 'gain life experiences'.

>> No.40803214

>>40797729
>>40798276
she spoke about what she wants to do in the future and who she plans to do that thing with, you just dont know because you're catalog niggers

>> No.40803435

>>40796134
Not the same thing, Judy got hooked hardcore on drugs that were pushed on her.

>> No.40803588

damn wild someone would want to do something outside of their job. as a vt genius this is baffling to me

>> No.40803775

>>40797489
That's basically what wholeness vs oneness is about. A woman will typically want to do a little bit of everything in life to make herself feel whole, whereas a man will typically dedicate himself to a one single thing. It's why you seldom see women as masters of a certain craft or skill in comparison to men. Men will autistically dedicate themselves to achieve that.

>> No.40803966

Clearly Japanese men don't satisfy her so she's gonna try finding a muscular gaijin

>> No.40804265

>>40803214
ok? what does it have to do with what we said? can you be more specific?

>> No.40804327

>>40786743
>What is the ultimate goal of Houshou Marine?
yeah, me.
and im going to give her an entire crew of little marin's before its too late

>> No.40804354

>>40797219
I can save her, her dusty womb will not shrivel up!

>> No.40805392

>>40796265
But my oshi did nothing wrong...

>> No.40810983

bump

>> No.40811105

>>40804265
sure, I'll explain it if you admit you dont watch streams and dont know what the fuck you're talking about

>> No.40811375

>>40803214
I don't watch her so please explain.

>> No.40812960

>>40811105
ok dude should have said you have no arguments

>> No.40813037

>>40811105
You shouldn't be mad at me.
You should be mad at her for deceiving you.

>> No.40813210

>>40797219
>literally probing Kiara to see if she has a rape fetish too
>Kiara didn't realize it

>> No.40815389

>>40786743
At first it was funny to see all that seething thanks to Marine's collab with Kiara, but after more than a dozen threads of the same shit this is already sad, it really mindbroke /vt/
Marine had already mentioned years ago that she wanted to travel abroad but because of things like the pandemic and her tight schedule it was impossible for her, it's not like 4ch's girlfriend (Kiara) brainwashed her to want to visit other countries besides Flare said exactly the same thing during the collab she had with Kiara in that learning German stream and I never saw anyone raise a fuss here.
My point is that all of you are a bunch of thread reading niggers who don't even qualify as disgusting clipniggers and seriously need to either take your meds or tie a noose around your neck and make the world a better place.
And the life experience part is doing things you always wanted to do before you got to old age and being unable to do it for one reason or another like... well you know Travel to another fucking country.
it's only natural for a bunch of stinky basement dwellers to think "life experience" refers to having something they'll never have: fucking.

>> No.40815614

We're gonna make it bros. We're gonna cum inside of Marine, all of us!

>> No.40815615

>>40803214
I do watch her, that's how I know most of her recent streams have been collabs (particularly off-collabs) or events. explain that.

>> No.40815762

>>40815615
>I do watch her
Opinion instantly discarded

>> No.40816012

>>40815389
You're actually brain damaged if you believe that Kiara did absolutely nothing to make her decide that she will spend this year travelling instead of working.

>> No.40817081

>>40816012
I'm going to screenshot this and grudge post the fuck out of it in January of next year.

>> No.40817209

>>40786907
shes 17 retard
watch the streams

>> No.40817352

>>40816012
I don't know, Anon, she could easily have thought of it on her own.

>> No.40818196

>>40817081
What is there to """grudge post"""? Are you expecting Marine to not travel at all? That's the only way you would be right.

>>40817352
Yeah she thought it up all on her own and the chicken just completely randomly replied to her tweet. There's zero connection there.

>> No.40818335

>>40815389
Marineschizo is having the time of his life at least

>> No.40818709

Why do you hate Ayame for not streaming but not Marine?

>> No.40819135

>>40818335
But not for so long 'cause I need to remind everyone that his oshi the whore panda bullied Luna out of nipplesanji

>> No.40819190

>>40818709
Marine has a lot more going on outside streaming, on top of frequently appearing on other channels for collabs. She's easily one of the most respected and idolized holos in the whole industry.

>> No.40819228

>>40786743
I clicked there, now where is the HAG PUSSY!

>> No.40819305

>>40786907
except they dont own the channels, so why the fuck would they care? The sub numbers dont mean shit lmao, none of them own anything, they are corporate slaves just like the rest of you, they just get paid well for it. This is such a cooked take.

>> No.40819357

>>40819190
>Marine has a lot more going on outside streaming
Yeah like travelling to foreign countries.
Ayame also has a lot going on ourside of solo streaming and everyone loves her.

>> No.40821499

>>40819357
I don't know what you're trying to do by mentioning that Marine wants to travel to another country, it doesn't bother me, most ichimi (if not all) don't mind either, if you're using that to troll or something I'm afraid you're doing a terrible job at it.

>> No.40821857

I watched this movie "The Berlin Syndrome" over christmas with my family. Its about an Australian woman who travels to Germany to get a "life experience" and she meets an english teacher who ends up locking her in his secluded apartment and kinda raping her over and over again. I imagine this is the ultimate goal of Houshou Marine.

>> No.40822001

>>40819305
Except that you're truly retarded because even though the channels or the content they make don't belong to them, outside from money they still get contacts, experience, fans who follow them unconditionally wherever they decide to go after graduation or even termination (see Coco, Rushia).
If they were really slaves as you like to claim they could easily graduate and live comfortably as indies.
If they are still with Hololive it's because they really like it there, not because they are forced into it for fear of losing what they have built there, it's something that you indiefags fail to understand.

>> No.40822271

>>40821499
Most nakirigumi also don't mind Ayame not streaming so why hate her?

>> No.40822343

>>40815389
Holy schizo

>> No.40823108

>>40822271
You must have an extra chromosome in your DNA if you really think Marine would take more than a week off if she actually decides to travel to another country in the near future.
Again, I don't know what you think you are going to accomplish by mentioning the same thing, your attempt at trolling is useless and you're only coming off as someone with down syndrome.
I hope Marine really travels abroad so she will have more material for those amazing zatsudan she has us used to, the best of Hololive, maybe of all vtubing.

>> No.40823160

>>40795735
Explain Pekora...

>> No.40823266

>>40795857
bartleby is right

>> No.40823405

>>40823108
Marine regularly takes off several weeks unannounced.

>> No.40823439

>>40823160
Schizos love to cherry pick examples that fit their narratives
don't bother giving them some undeniable true facts to refute them.
After more than a year I'm still waiting for that Koyori burn out as they promised me.

>> No.40823537

>>40823405
Oh yeah? give me recent examples with dates

>> No.40824138

>>40823537
Just look at her channel.

>> No.40825466

>>40823439
not everyone is the same. it can be true for one streamer and not another.

>> No.40825886

>>40824138
So you're full of shit, gotcha

>> No.40826305

>>40825886
Why can't you look at her channel?

>> No.40828277

Bump

>> No.40830605
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40830605

>>40815389
You must be fun at parties.

>> No.40830923

>>40816012
>The woman known to stream the most in EN is the one that makes the girls lazy
You know too much

>> No.40831084

>>40786743
Cock carousel and then kids with some provider cuck

>> No.40832038

>>40815389
You can hear the sounds of stools falling and incel necks snapping after they read this post

>> No.40833450

>>40819305
Retard. Mikeneko can't move on from Rushia and wishes everyday she could go back to hololive. The channels might be owned by the company but at the end of the day it's theirs. Their achievements, their success, they get the praise.

>> No.40833584

>>40816012
But she can't even travel with Kiara in the first place. Unless she doesnt care about being doxed.

>> No.40833596

>>40786907
Only those who have worked hard for their success can be truly happy.

>> No.40833748

ah
anti kiara thread
go back

>> No.40834177

>>40833450
>Mikeneko can't move on from Rushia and wishes everyday she could go back to hololive.
Her tune was very different just a few days before she got into deep shit.

>> No.40834235

>>40786743
To be the most reddit woman to ever exist

>> No.40834337

what the fuck is a reddit woman. dont use reddit nor follow reddit memes so i have no idea

>> No.40834600

>>40815389
>Oh I'm a vtuber fan.
>You watch streams and stuff?
>No no no.
>Oh, you, follow their twitter or something?
>Goodness no.
>Then what do you do?
>I read narrative fantasies written by anonymous strangers on an anime imageboard.

>> No.40835052

>>40825886
Anon she had 175 hours streamed in the entire year of 2022.
For comparison Pekora had 890, Miko 950 and Koyori 1869.

>> No.40835500

>>40834177
and it changed 180 degrees after she got kicked out

>> No.40836200

>>40815389
>it's not like 4ch's girlfriend (Kiara)
wtf are you talking about schizo?
holy meds

>> No.40836488

>>40836200
It's a shame that sarcasm can't be expressed as well in written form as it can in spoken form, and less so if you're a retard with poor reading comprehension.

>> No.40836789

>>40835052
175 hours is more than the supposed 0 hours of "never streaming"
Although For a disgusting numbersfag no number will be enough.

>> No.40838771

>>40836488
No that just sounds cringe.

>> No.40838865

>>40836789
Cope. 175 hours in an entire year is literally nothing.

>> No.40839108

>>40838865
According to who?

>> No.40839235

>>40838771
Exactly, its cringe that you dont know how to read properly

>> No.40839373

>>40796095
Wait what? First time I heard about this. QRD? I figured it was continued health issues but if mental health problems are starting to pile up on top of her physical health issues then that ain't good...

>> No.40839545

>>40796095
>libel

>> No.40839920

>>40839108
According to prior precedent, the vtuber average is around 600-800 hours. Marine has always been on the lazier side but this year in particular was exceptional even by her low standards. She is now reaching low levels of hours streamed that only a very few have reached

>2022 Aqua 180.6 hours
>2022 Marine 175.8 hours
>2021 Ayame 166.7 hours
>2022 Shion 158.4 hours
>2022 Ayame 104.0 hours

>> No.40840072

>>40839920
And now she's going to go vacationing overseas. She'll be below Ayame.

>> No.40840138

>>40839920
grim

>> No.40840194

>>40839920
>the vtuber average is around 600-800 hours.
Source my ass

>> No.40840201

>>40811105
>i'll indulge your curiosity with my accumulated no-life trivia, if you admit you aren't as much of a NEET simp as I am for e-thots and don't spend all your life living vicariously through streamers like I do
I lol'd at your simp gatekeeping. lmao'd even

>> No.40840239

>>40839920
>>40840072
>>40840138
>Samefag

>> No.40840503

>>40840239
Your namecalling won't change reality.

>> No.40840566
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40840566

>>40786743
>https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1613091216480161793
this is totally Kiara influence

>> No.40840674

>>40840503
So you're not denying samefagging.
Sounds like someone is getting desperate because they've run out of things to troll with.

>> No.40840846

>>40840674
I just called your post namecalling, you fucking moron.

>> No.40841080

>>40840194
Source: Holo_Data Twitter which pulls from Vstats and Vrabi you faggot

https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1610184718288584704
https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1477112893632319489

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH, you just got BTFO by hard data and numbers. What's your next retort or futile effort to bury your head further in the sand?

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40841795

>>40841080
So those stats aren't even accurate, and it also doesn't count collabs on other channels but for some reason you numbersrot faggots don't count them either so it's not even worth fighting to make it count too.

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40841998

>>40841795
>I don't like the number meta that has been established for over 3 years to gauge vtuber engagement/activity therefore I'm going to move the goalposts so that my point still stands.

>> No.40842031
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40842031

>>40840194
NTA but I just checked and it's 633 hours on average not counting official hololive channels and rushia since she graduated at the beginning of the year.
Cope.

>> No.40842064

>>40786743
Marine pls come to Ohio

>> No.40842428

>>40839108
To people who watch streams.
Not you clearly.

>> No.40842637

>>40841998
I am not the one using inaccurate data to prove a point though

>> No.40842793

>>40842031
Quality over quantity, that average CCV and Max CCV does not help your case at all.

>> No.40842981

>>40842793
I hope she has a 'quality' graduation this year for your sake.

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40843243

>>40842637
>>40842793
Get a load of this faggot.

>> No.40843331

>>40842981
And why does she need to graduate if there are more people watching her than ever despite "never streaming"?

>> No.40843371

>>40842793
>quality over quantity
Sadly you'll get neither with Marine.

>> No.40843414

>>40843331
Because Hololive exits happen suddenly and without warning and you deserve it after being such a faggot.

>> No.40843507

>>40843243
Now I understand that /#/ is not a containment thread it's your safe space to avoid dealing with reality.

>> No.40843684

>>40843414
So now I'm the faggot for using your same data against you?
I'm not the one who made up that BS that Marine never streams or will stop streaming because she wants to travel abroad.

>> No.40843712

>>40843414
That person is obviously not a marine fan anon are you dumb? It's a shitposting faggot.

>> No.40844196

>>40834177
>>40835500
What about Mikeneko?

>> No.40844236

>>40844196
Go back to your thread.

>> No.40844465

>>40786743
She deserves it. No telling when she'll do it though.
Only VT believes millionaires should not be allowed vacations. What's the use of making money if can't spend it?
Maybe prefer Niji's acceleration plan? Makes the company more money, but at the sacrifice of what each individual makes.
But VT would even prefer how the Chinese do it. Chain them to the camera, making wages that they'll never become wealthy from.

>> No.40844653

>>40844236
Which thread?

>> No.40845688

>>40839920
I assume those numbers don't take into account all the time she spends as guest on other channels, does it?

>> No.40845858

>>40845688
Yeah but the same applies to everyone else and Marine doesn't collab more than others.

>> No.40846077

>>40845858
Anon what the fuck are you even talking about? Do you even watch HoloJP, like, at all?

>> No.40846220

>>40831084
all me

>> No.40851743

bump?

>> No.40853768
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40853768

>>40796265
Just get a reliable oshi.

>> No.40853869

>6"4
>muscular
>good hair
>expert at cunnilingus
so i have a chance with Marine, right?

>> No.40855767

>>40786743
To get married.

>> No.40855884

>>40853768
Watamates have it good. If she was more entertaining I would watch her.

>> No.40857760

>>40786743
yeah

>> No.40857777

>>40803966
What?

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40858634

>>40786743
She wants the same thing every other human being wants, a fulfilling life.

>> No.40858742

>>40858634
>I'm 12 and this is deep

>> No.40858929

>>40858742
Sorry I'm not an emcel with a ruined pair bonding mechanism or burnt out serotonin receptors anon

>> No.40860075

>>40853869
If you’re on here you’re doomed anon.

>> No.40862992

>>40858929
>projection

>> No.40863258

big burly german anons start getting in shape right fucking now.

>> No.40863990

>>40845858
lol

>> No.40864136

travel is probably a good idea, should give her some zatsu material. Hope she can boost those numbers a bit this year though, definitely want more

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40867767

>>40864136
>he thinks she will do a zatsu about her travels
roru roru
rumao
the only thing she can think about is picrel
she can't do a normal zatsu anymore

>> No.40868084

>>40867767
considering how much she hates talking to anyone who isn't 100% fluent the guy is probably going to have do it via magic dick

but she's stupidly passive so it's pretty unlikely anyone will even be aggressive enough to realise she's desperate too

maybe she gets lucky but like, not the greatest chance even if she spends a lot of time travelling

>> No.40870820

>>40842793
>moving the goalpost

>> No.40871400

>>40868084
I already asked Kiara to introduce her to me

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>>40815389
WTF are you even talking about schizo?
No one was seething at the collab with kiara until you didnt mention it.
Stop projecting and take your meds.

>> No.40878212

>>40786743
>What is the ultimate goal of Houshou Marine?
to be the best

>> No.40881610

>>40786743
Looks like Marine has turned into a wannabe riajuu.
The quirky otaku we loved watching has been gone since before she had her first major break back in 2021 due to "throat issues".
It's kinda like this >>40795857 anon said.

>> No.40882474

>>40881610
You never watched her, retard.

>> No.40882625

>>40882474
How does watcbing her change the truth of what's happening currently? Are you saying she was always a huge normalfag?

>> No.40883314

>>40882474
Is this how you cope? I have watched her a lot since discovering hololive during the 2020 boom.

>> No.40883791

>>40786743
Finding men to entrap in a relationship

>> No.40884593

>>40882625
Come on anon, stuff like
>The quirky otaku we loved watching has been blah blah blah
is falseflagging 101. No actual fan would say shit like that, specially considering it's bullshit.

>> No.40885425

>>40884593
Retard.

>> No.40886572

>>40884593
Again, how does that change her being a normalfag currently? Are you saying she was always one?

>> No.40888419
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40888419

The more I think about it the more I come to the conclusion that Marine is very similar to Rushia in nature.
There is only two differences:
1. Marine has a bit higher IQ, which enables her to stay relevantly safe from getting fired compared to Rushia.
2. Marine is way thicker, which enables her to be more outgoing and daring than Rushia.
But if we scrape those two differences away we are looking at two very similar people in nature, attitude and personality.
Indeed, we are looking at two wannabe riajuu menhera.

>> No.40889183

>>40886572
Your question is flawed to begin with. If you consider her to be a normalfag now, she's always been such, and vice versa. Only thing that changed is her streaming fewer hours, mostly due to her throat.
Gotta admit Marineschizo here above is always a pretty amusing read, though.

>> No.40889475

>>40889183
>mostly due to her throat.
That hasn't been true for an entire year now. She only needs one or two days off to stream again. No, she is not recording on most days of the week.

>> No.40889544

>>40888419
Now this is a completely brain damaged take.

>> No.40890314

>>40889475
I mean, it's a chronic problem. It can deteriorate if she's careless and last for quite a bit, like that one time she could not stream for weeks and even did that "muted" drawing stream. Can't tell you whether the current lack of streams is entirely justifiable by that alone, but she definitely demonstrated to have a problem. Plus she's still often collabing on other channels.

>> No.40890422

>>40889183
>>40889544
At this point i dont know if you are a delusional gachi coping or just a bored shitposter.
It's hard to tell.
Either way it's pathetic.

>> No.40891482

>>40890422
??????????
What makes me a gachi when I say that you need to be a massive retard to claim Marine is just like Rushia? You're the shitposter.

>> No.40891700

>>40786743
She's on a journey to make children. She needs only the most viable of seed (me)

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>>40889544
Cope

>> No.40894585

I can't believe this retarded thread is still active, Marineschizo is really working overtime to keep it up now that no one pays any attention to his bullshit on ahoy.

>> No.40894672

>>40888419
Tell me that you have never seen Rushia or Marine without telling me that you have never seen either.

>> No.40895236

>>40786900
I like the sound of that

>> No.40896475

>>40819135
Sasaki is cool

>> No.40899801

>>40786743
>What is the ultimate goal of Houshou Marine?
to get a husband

>> No.40900888

Marine is a damn 30+ years old fermale otaku larping as a slut and supposedly coming from a dysfunctional family, poor woman legit need and want a fucking husband and children.

Can rich japanese women "buy" a husband like us western can buy a asian/slav wife?

>> No.40904090

>>40795934
I believe in you

>> No.40906519

>>40900888
Maybe from Ukraine. Marine could probably buy a ukrainian shota to put in her basement.

>> No.40906583

>>40786743
I'm waiting for you, Marine. My semen is drying up so you better hurry.

>> No.40910960

>>40786907
Maybe it's harder to cope with being alone when you are rich and popular because there is nothing else to struggle with.

>> No.40911785

>>40910960
But no one else in hololive seems to struggle with it as much as Marine.

>> No.40912325

>>40888419
The first time I saw one of Marine's menhera episodes really sank my opinion of her, she had come off as grizzled veteran of office life with an experienced worldview and insightful advice mixed in with her entertaining chats. When she completely tossed that out of the window and briefly lost her shit and became moody as fuck really killed the vibe for me. Haven't really looked at her the same since. Still entertaining but respect her alot less.

>> No.40912445

>>40890314
Honestly seeing how much it has hindered her ability to stream consistently, she should have bit the bullet last year and gotten the same surgery as AkiRose did. Aki was out for awhile but now she is going gangbusters with streaming since her return.

>> No.40912569

>>40890314
She hasn't even claimed she doesn't stream due to her throat anymore. She knows it's not a working excuse after she's got advice how to deal with it from three separate doctors now. She only refers to it when she has a scheduled stream.

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>>40855884
She's entertaining. Just maybe not for the zoomer mind.

>> No.40918499

>>40912325
Same. I used to admire her a lot. Not so much anymore.
Her general attitude has changed ever since that first throat (menhera) break. She became kinda toxic too.
Her zatsudans back in 2020 were some of the most authentic and funniest streams I have ever seen.
It's a shame.

>> No.40919011

>>40912325
>>40918499
you know that's interesting, because she always talks about not wanting to stream when she's feeling down because something something make listeners smile something.

And I had always thought that attitude was kinda dumb, like I assumed her fans wanted to see as much of her as possible, and for her not to hide sides of herself or have to always put on a front. Like, surely fans would appreciate her openness and willingness to share how she's feeling.

But I'm finally just now seeing two people who say that actually her being a depressive on stream actually did negatively affect their opinion of her. I guess her concerns weren't totally unfounded after all. But surely, on net it was a positive.

>> No.40919096

>>40900888
marine being cute and rich means she could quit anytime she wanted and pump out a few babies, finding a husband is the easy part, what people struggle with is the financial securty and time commitment

>> No.40919244

>>40867767
she is not even cute, wtf lol

>> No.40919324

>>40919244
who's she? that's like, 50 different asian girls

>> No.40920356

>>40919096
>finding a husband is the easy part
It's not at all.

>> No.40920551

>>40920356
depends what you're looking for I guess. Marine is picky so there's that

>> No.40922706

>>40920551
It seems like you believe she can walk up to any man anywhere and just take them, and that she wants to do it.

>> No.40922968

>>40922706
>attractive
>rich
>funny
>smart
>not too old
She could

>> No.40923076

>>40922968
You don't know how anything works.

>> No.40923338

>>40923076
It's incredibly easy, women are just obsessed with looks and status.

>> No.40923452

>>40923076
marine is an appealing package on the relationship marketplace, it's more about what she's willing to settle for than her genuinely not being able to find anyone

>> No.40923518

>>40923452
Again, you don't know how anything works. Where is she going to find someone in the first place? By walking into a bar? It doesn't work like that unless you want a divorce.

>> No.40923873

>>40923518
Do you think she is a shut-in NEET? She has plenty of ways of meeting people.

>> No.40923908

>>40923518
have you never had a relationship before or something? you're treating it like it's this impossible thing when 60% of Japanese people are married, with most of the rest either soon to be or widowed or something, it's a normal fucking thing to do and you would have to be a weird autist or hikki or something to never meet people

>> No.40924003

It's obvious Marine has dated a bunch of different guys while in hololive. There's no way she wouldn't.

>> No.40924092

>>40924003
well she said she hasn't, so for that to be true you're saying she's lying

>> No.40924135

>>40924092
Obviously she's lying. How can an attractive horny young woman not date someone? She said she doesn't have time for a lover even though we know they have plenty of time for personal relationships, romantic or otherwise.

>> No.40924238

>>40924135
so when she's constantly complaining about being sexually unsatisfied in mengens and member posts that's her rping as if she's single and sexually frustrated to you then, and actually she's not and lying about it

>> No.40924379

>>40924238
That's all what's known as 'fan service'. She's expected to do it so she does it.
Being concerned over her "lying" is like calling someone out for writing 'lol' when they're not actually laughing at all.
Again, she's rich and attractive and can just pick any man she wants. She's not a shut-in so she can easily meet men whenever she likes.

>> No.40924535

>>40797489
This nigger genuinely believes his hormones are made of gold for having a dick. He's doing it with fake-intellectual lingo too, even used the correct plural of a latin word like anyone gives a fuck here lol
get a life

>> No.40924590

>>40924379
okay, it is *not* fanservice, there are very few other vtubers who feel the need to pretend to vent about how lonely and sexually frustrated they are. I'm not talking about like, the way she sometimes does it as a bit. I'm talking about the long conversations she has in mengens about how her life is going and how she spends her time and how it makes her feel. The ones that aren't her doing a comedy routine or playing a character but just venting.

>> No.40924644

>>40924590
For Marine it's fanservice. It's her character.
Why did you go from propping her up as highly desirable able to pick any man she wants to frantically denying her having dated anyone at all? They can't both be true at the same time.

>> No.40924845

>>40924644
because she openly talks about her not dating out of necessity to her position as a hololive vtuber. She's openly talked about how she takes it seriously enough as a particular kind of job that requires her to stay single, just like idols are expected not to have boyfriends. Like, she has said outright *that* is the reason she isn't dating people and why she feels lonely and sexually unsatisfied, not that she's some forever alone fucking loser who guys aren't interested in.

>> No.40924990

>>40924845
And you trust her even though she disappears for several days every few weeks?

>> No.40925042

>>40924990
Different guy but yeah, honestly.

>> No.40925224

>>40919011
>being passive-aggressive, toxic and not streaming is negatively affecting viewers' opinions of her
Yeah no shit Sherlock.
Also
>reddit spacing

>> No.40925248

>>40924990
No, I wouldn't be surprised if she had dated people privately and didn't talk about it, but I think it's less likely than her having been single the whole time since late 2019. Say 15% chance she dated at least one person on the side, 85% chance she was single.

And I would say that even if she did date people on the side at some point, the periods where she was complaining and venting especially heavily about being lonely and sexually frustrated, I would say that it's even more likely than that that those were legit and she wasn't in a relationship at the time as compared to the period as a whole. Like 5% chance she was lying through her teeth and actively in a relationship in those member posts and the times on stream where she talked about choosing to be single due to the holo gig.

>> No.40925390

>>40925224
Not streaming definitely hurts, but depressive marine is kinda cute I thought

>> No.40925586

>>40925390
I don't see what's cute about seeing her struggle with trying to hide how much she despises her audience now.

>> No.40925705

>>40925586
only certain components of her audience, I don't think it's blanket hate

>> No.40925877

>>40925705
Doesn't matter if it's just a few that she dislikes when she punishes everyone for it.

>> No.40925899

>>40925877
How are we being punished by Marine?

>> No.40926065

>>40925899
No content. She stays away from streaming to not have to see the bad part of her audience but it also means no one gets to see her.

>> No.40926571

>>40925877
What went wrong? She used to stream regularly despite that.

>> No.40928590

>>40786743
She wants people to recognize her from doujins

>> No.40928833

>>40926571
She got new friends and a different perspective.

>> No.40928925

>>40786743
Sex, with me. She's a gaijin hunter after all, nothing but BWC for her. I'll be the first and last to satisfy Marines big fat juicy bootrrtaxy.

>> No.40929014

>>40928925
bootrrtaxy? do you smell toast rn?

>> No.40929111

>>40928833
Sounds lame.

>> No.40929179

>>40929014
I meant her fat fucking juicy ass. Sorry I disappointed you anon ;(. Toast sounds good right about now though.

>> No.40929601

>>40914392
Funny of you to say that, when she's /vt/'s beloved Pippa's oshi.

>> No.40929764

I keep clicking but it won’t show me her cooter

>> No.40929791

>>40926571
did you watch say, her stream yesterday with Sou-chan? she explains it pretty well, her voice just isn't up to it anymore, she used to just push through over and over and expect it to just be okay

and you know, it turned out that doesn't work

>> No.40930641

>>40929791
We know what's wrong with her throat and she knows it's not what's stopping her most of the time. 90% of her content is collabs now.

>> No.40930757

>>40930641
you didn't watch it then. you should, even just the first 20 mins

>> No.40930837

>>40930757
I watched it, and I've heard her explanations multiple times. She doesn't stream because of her "depression".

>> No.40930911

>>40930837
you should watch the stream

>> No.40931003

Marine will die a virgin

>> No.40931068

>>40930911
I watched it, and I've heard her explanations multiple times. She doesn't stream because of her "depression".

>> No.40931122

>>40931068
you should ACTUALLY watch the stream

do you want me to timestamp the place for you? or is your Japanese too shit and I need to make a subtitled clip or something for you

>> No.40931364

>>40931122
Timestamp it. It won't change the fact that everytime she comes back to do her first solo stream in months she says it's because she has been depressed again.

>> No.40931848

>>40929791
Why won't she just use her normal voice then?

>> No.40931920

>>40931848
It is her normal voice that's the problem.

>> No.40931979

>>40931364
https://youtu.be/AIkxt6NOrg0?t=665

from here to about 19:08, although in the middle Hayase tells how she fucked her throat via her Cosplayer lifestyle

>> No.40932213

>>40931979
Yeah I've heard this a million times. This, once again, has nothing to do with why she doesn't do solo streams anymore. Do you not watch her?

>> No.40932307

>>40932213
it's exactly why, she says it's exactly why over and over and I dunno why it doesn't get through to some people. Yes, she has said this a million times, why haven't you heard her?

>> No.40932498

>deepthroated so much cock she ruined her throat
Based pirate

>> No.40932545

>>40932307
How does her throat prevent her from doing solo streams but not collabs? Sorry, but it's not the reason. She always says she's depressed.

>> No.40933125

>>40932307
>can do collabs and scream and laugh no problem but suddenly can't do in solo streams
Sounds like bullshit and damage control on her part.

>> No.40933230

>>40933125
Nah the only one damage controlling is this guy. She keeps saying it's depression which this guy keeps ignoring.

>> No.40933318

>>40932545
bro how much spoonfeeding do you want, jesus
でもね、ちゃんとね、今は、どうしたら自分の喉が嗄れるのが分かってきて、漸くね、分かってきて。今まで無理しても出来るならやれるだろと思ってやってきたんだけど、いやこれをしたらもう出なくなるんだなって分かったから。調整しながらね

and earlier she was saying she used to want to be active, she used to think she could stream endlessly, back when she was collabbing with Sou-chan she wanted to stream every day. And now she has to regulate how much she uses her voice. It's that simple, she just can't stream as regularly as she used to, and if she doesn't cut all her collab commitments then of course that means there are less solos. Like I don't get why you don't understand, it's not rocket science. Just listen to what she is saying.

>> No.40933385

>>40933230
she doesn't want to stream when she gets depressed too, but when she's not depressed that's obviously not why she isn't streaming
like if you wanted to explain why she wasn't streaming after Rushia got canned then that was depression, sure

>> No.40933645

>>40933318
I don't even see why it's such a bad thing, speaking as someone who considers Marine his oshi. I still see plenty of her outside of solo streams on her channel.

>> No.40933757

>>40933318
>if she doesn't cut all her collab commitments then of course that means there are less solos
Those collab commitments are not just forced onto her. She's the one choosing to do them.

>> No.40933877

>>40933645
yeah, if Marine is collabbing with someone that's fine in my book, I'm pretty happy any day we get a decent appearance regardless of whether it's a collab or a solo. Honestly, her solos are way more likely to be something I don't have any interest in. Like I don't particularly enjoy horror game streams, would prefer her to do anything else.

>> No.40933961

>>40786743
The more experiences in life you have the more interesting your zatsudans are.
...
I don't know anon. I don't know.

>> No.40934010

>>40933757
sure, I mean are you saying you want her not to go do a talk collab with sou-chan and a solo stream would be infinitely better for you or something? I don't really get that. Kinda a bad look to abandon the people you started out with because your growth trajectories have been different, too.

>> No.40934065

>>40933877
This collab spam also leads to her only solo content being trash like horror games.

>> No.40934146

>>40934010
Epic strawman. I never said or even implied any of that.

>> No.40934254

>>40934146
you seem to think collab streams are bad or something, but if you don't think that and collabs are okay then... why is it not okay for her to be spending her throat budget on collabs?

>> No.40934342

>>40934254
Yet another strawman. Why do you keep trying to fight these imaginary arguments literally nobody made? Is it because you'll lose otherwise?

>> No.40934382

>>40934342
then what is your fucking problem with her doing lots of collabs and less solos

>> No.40934511

>>40934382
It was already talked about earlier. Are you retarded?

>> No.40934547

>>40934511
if you don't have anything to say then why bother posting jesus

>> No.40934746

>>40934547
You should take your own advice. We literally ended up here from you denying that she doesn't do solo streams because she hates her audience.

>> No.40934795

>>40934746
because she doesn't, are we going to timeloop and I have to show that it's her voice again

>> No.40934886

>>40934795
You failed to explain why she has to do collabs over solo streams and instead started fighting imaginary arguments.

>> No.40934989

>>40934886
because she can't keep up this rate of collabs AND keep up the solos due to her voice

she prioritizes the collabs but you seem to agree that that isn't a problem, right? If I say you have a problem with collabs that's a strawman, right? Then there's no fucking issue with her doing lots of collabs and not doing so many solos, surely. Where the fuck is the issue here

>> No.40935187

>>40934989
The rate of collabs is up from what it used to be. She does them because she does not want to face her audience.
>you seem to agree that that isn't a problem, right?
Yet another instance of you putting words into my mouth. Where are you getting this from?
>If I say you have a problem with collabs that's a strawman, right?
You're lying right now. You know exactly what you said and I'll quote your bullshit for you
>you want her not to go do a talk collab with sou-chan and a solo stream
Why are you so dishonest?

>> No.40935299

>>40935187
holy shit stop fucking around and make a claim or something, if you have some kind of issue say it instead of endlessly droning on about strawmanning and "I never said that"

>> No.40935423

>>40935299
You're the faggot who started fucking around. Don't like it? Don't start it and especially don't keep doing it.

>> No.40935475

>>40935423
if you don't want "words put in your mouth" then say something, if you don't have an issue with collabs then where is the issue, fucking say something

>> No.40935552

>>40935475
You literally started it you fucking faggot. I won't say shit until you stop being a moron, but it seems to be in your blood or something.

>> No.40935593

stop fucking arguing retards
this is pointless

>> No.40935631

>>40935552
you haven't said a fucking thing this entire time, you complain about collabs and then when I say you have a problem with collabs you suddenly take backsies having a problem with collabs, which leaves you having said fucking nothing

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>>40935475
Dude, stop arguing with Marineschizo. It'd funnier watching the samefagging.

>> No.40935713

>>40935631
>you suddenly take backsies having a problem with collabs
Didn't happen. Why do you keep doing this if you hate it so much? Fucking idiot.

>> No.40935763

>>40935713
then what is your fucking problem with collabs

>> No.40935863

>>40935763
The number of them you fucking idiot. This was already mentioned before, but you have the memory of a lobotomized ape.

>> No.40935880

>>40935689
I prolly should but I'm waiting for them to make some kind of dumb claim

>> No.40935910

>>40935863
why is the number bad, what is your issue with it, please say something, anything, anything at all

>> No.40935940

>>40935910
Read the thread to find you, idiot.

>> No.40935970

>>40935940
nothing then, got it

>> No.40936019

>>40935970
It's literally there in the first post mentioning how often she collabs.

>> No.40936110

>>40936019
it's not, say something for once instead of fucking around

>> No.40936182

>>40936110
It's right there. 90% of her content is collabs now.

>> No.40936212

>>40936182
why is that an issue, try saying something

>> No.40936298

>>40936212
Because she does it to avoid her audience. This was also mentioned before.

>> No.40936363

>>40936298
why do you think this?

>> No.40936370

>>40936298
no, it's her throat, are we timelooping again, jesus

>> No.40936486

>>40936370
It's not her throat when she chooses to do collab streams over solo. We are loopong because you're retarded and dishonest.

>> No.40936606

>>40936486
it is her throat because if her throat was fine she would stream more solos, do you want me to post more marine explaining how she can't stream as much anymore because of her throat?

>> No.40936743

>>40936606
It's not her throat because she has the choice between solo and collab and she chooses 90% collab.

>> No.40937071

>>40936743
but what has that got to do with the fact that she would do more solos if she could if not for her throat? Are you saying that even if her throat magically fixed itself you think she would still not do any solos because she's """avoiding her audience"""? Again, where is the issue here? What is your actual problem?

>> No.40937203

>>40786743
I'm clicking but nothing is happening, help!

>> No.40937255

>>40937071
She could do more solo if she wasn't doing so many collabs. Why do you fail to understand something so simple?

>> No.40937533

>>40937255
but why is it a problem, say something

>> No.40937659

>>40937533
Because she's avoiding her audience. You have been told this about 5 times now. You going "say something" doesn't make you some alpha chad debater by the way.

>> No.40937836

>>40937659
but she would solo more if not for her throat, right? so where is the issue, it's not like she's avoiding her audience because she wants to

>> No.40938109

>>40937836
She wouldn't. She would just go back to recording programs like Maruyama instead.
>it's not like she's avoiding her audience because she wants to
Then why does she choose to only do collab streams?

>> No.40938270

>>40937659
She can't avoid her audience, Ichimi follow her wherever she goes. If she wanted to avoid her audience, for whatever retarded reason you think she would, she wouldn't appear anywhere.

>> No.40938317

>>40938109
you think if her voice was fixed she would do things like Maruyama and never do solo streams? okay, thanks for finally saying something, that's obviously retarded

>> No.40938434

I want vtubers to find a good man and marry and have children.
Is that too much to ask for?
I'm not pretending they're my girlfriends, I still don't want to hear about how they are getting fucked by their boyfriends, I'm not their girl friend.
I want them to pretend to be cute anime girls and provide a parasocial experience.
But in real life I'd still like them to be happy and find long term fulfilling relationships and start families.

>> No.40938521

>>40938270
The point of collabs is that she doesn't have to even acknowledge the chat.

>> No.40938908

>>40938434
some of them probably do. Occasionally vtubers do do that, where they reveal they've gotten married or pregnant or had a baby. E.g. Norio had a marriage reveal, one of the Omega sisters had a baby reveal. Other vtubers probably do it without informing their audience too.

>> No.40939002

>>40938434
I think most of these women will. I'm going to marry Marine.

>> No.40940289

Did one assblasted guy just samefag this thread to reach bump limit?

>> No.40940499

>>40940289
pretty much lol. not the first time I've seen this exact "conversation" happen either

>> No.40940612

>>40940289
no, and you know you can just make another thread if you want. There's no scarcity

>> No.40940668

>>40938521
Pretty sure that's not the point of collabs, specially considering she still does. Not appearing anywhere is the point of not acknowledging chat.

>> No.40940666

>>40929791
Marine seriously needs to stop being a pussy ass bitch and get the surgery Aki did ffs

>> No.40940841

>>40940666
wouldn't necessarily fix the problem, even if she did it and took months off until it healed, her throat would still get fucked again if she tried to be super active again

>> No.40941462

You guys are gullible as fuck.
If she wanted she would stream depsite her throat.
Pekora had the same issue and took 1 month break after which she's back to normal.
Maybe Marine really had some problems but she definitely uses it now as an excuse to not stream. Let's be real if she really wanted to stream knowing her she absolutely would.

>> No.40941608

>>40941462
Pekora didn't have it as bad, and learned from Marine's experience

>> No.40943563

>>40940841
Then does Marine have bad genetics or something? Why is she the only one in all of Hololive to constantly have to keep her voice usage in check for this long? Others take breaks once in awhile but I don't think anyone else has persistently throttled their stream output like Marine has over this. That and as you point out this is happening with her natural voice whereas you got some members doing forced 'mickey mouse' voices and still doing better than Marine. Whatever is going on needs some deeper research done to be honest.

>> No.40944399

>>40943563
she's not the only one, lots of people in vtubing have to worry about their voice and their usage

Marine's not that inactive really, if you add up her solos, collabs on other channels, and radio show. She's doing okay, even if it isn't as much as it used to be.

>> No.40944980

>>40943563
>Marine has bad genetics?
I thought we all knew that

>> No.40945240

What is it with /vt/ and it's cuck mentality?
A chuuba rests for several days or wants to travel to another country and you automatically assume she must be (or wants to) secretly fucking someone behind your backs.
All of you are literally the meme of Kazuya imagining getting cucked, it's hilarious and sad at the same time.

>> No.40945574

>>40945240
it's not /vt/, it's just stream-viewer unicorn culture. 5ch is the same for example

>> No.40946095

>>40944980
What do you mean? She has all the good genetics in her ass.

>> No.40946135

>>40945574
Imagine being such a virgin that you think literally everyone can easily get laid except you.

>> No.40946228

>>40946135
everyone can get laid pretty easily in general, only weird incels can't

>> No.40946404

>>40946095
do you think her sister has a big ass too? I don't think I've ever heard her mention it

>> No.40946423

Im an Ichimi and would be happy in case my oshi found someone on her level to spend her time with and start a family with.
I like her, but I'm also not so schizophrenic that I think I have a chance with her nor so resentful of life that I know that and still want her to be alone forever.
I want her to be happy.

>> No.40946492

>>40945240
>What is it with /vt/ and it's cuck mentality?
Its my fetish

>> No.40946526

Good run nijifans.
You managed to mog Iofi but risu was too big of a challenge. Maybe with luxiem ther will be more luck.

>> No.40946678

>>40945240
lurk for milion years newfaggot

>> No.40946894

>>40946526(me)
wrong thread sorry

>> No.40947095

>>40945240
Eh, most of them are just retarded falseflaggers trying to find new angles for the usual
>lel she's having sex behind her fans back
Some are legit into cukcing tho.

>> No.40948154

>>40946678
Newfag? Retard I've been /here/ since at least 2014 and have followed chuuba threads since the JP days, but I've never understood this obsession with thinking that if a woman isn't in public it's because she must be having loads of sex, this board in the last few months has become r9k 2.0

>> No.40948669

>>40948154
>>40948154
in the last few months? what are you talking about, unicorns have been around from the start

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