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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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>>40652605
REMINDER as to why this thread becomes shit

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>>40652690
Trump 2024

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>>40646250
Saviorfagging drives female fans away because it shows this fags in the position of weakness/inferiority to women, it's not attractive. There will never be a Tempus "VOX" for this very reason, we see him as a giant faggot but for chinese girls he's like the boss of niji EN, he doesn't begg girls for collabs to save his channel but shares his mandate of heavens with the girls. Now compare that with Vesper, fagni or that new ASMR faggot you can't look cool in their position (bottom).
Afaik even in niji JP male ranking is pretty top heavy afaik,

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>>40652690

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Even Tulsi got Fake Type for an orisong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lodKBt8LUw

I thought they were in pretty high demand and a 250 average like her couldn't afford them.

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>55,370: Pekora (Hololive)
>35,687: Ina (Hololive)
>28,114: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>24,997: Nene (Hololive)
>24,308: Koyori (Hololive)
>22,401: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>22,323: Ui (Indie)
>21,827: Botan (Hololive)
>21,561: Chronoir (Nijisanji)
>19,493: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>18,826: Kiara (Hololive)
>16,878: Mio (Hololive)
>16,689: Luna (Hololive)
>16,569: Iroha (Hololive)
>16,030: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>15,755: Okayu (Hololive)
>15,457: Ayame (Hololive)
>14,802: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>13,129: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>11,251: Nerumero (Indie)
>10,922: Ryushen (Nijisanji)

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>>40652737
Though at the same time, without affection from popular women the males have no chance at being considered attractive either

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>>40652758
>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament
3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab
5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo
6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream
7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 2023
8) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 2023
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,370 - GeoGuessr

>PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
2x: Towa
1x: Hololive, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Watame

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>>40652737
Wait could that the direction Yagoo want the boys to go for? He think that making the boys seem like the boss of the company would help making them attractive to women?

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>>40652743
They're in high demand from Mori

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>>40652274
that thumbnail has meme potential

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>>40652758
God I wish I was Don-chan.

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i can see Takotori taking cripple gold tomorrow with a fucking shill stream
would be hilarious and prime GRIM material

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>>40652839
Didn't Korone have a song that was a bit of a hit from them?

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>>40652801
Women are the uncute kind of retarded when guys are involved

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>>40652822
They’ll never reach that point unless they literally fire every girl. Vesper is Kronii’s bitch when they collab. Same goes for Ragus and Kobo.

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>>40652758
>>40652856

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>>40652758
>>40652981

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>>40652970
>They’ll never reach that point unless they literally fire every girl.
That might be in the cards. Cover would sacrifice entire female branches to boost the boys. I think they'd let go of HoloJP before StarsJP.

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>>40652839
>>40652878
They unironically are in high demand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyV1AJiFNyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLNTAMY1NZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8NjemtU-NI
DGS is their best song.

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>>40652822
He makes it look like the company is saviorfagging them... which is true and makes them look more pathetic as a group, rather than underdogs they make homos look like children.

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>>40652743
they've done a fuckton of chuuba originals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgPK9TH76vE
and they all sound exactly the same

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>>40652737
Yes exactly. And not just that, having a harem of female cumrags will make him more appealing too, especially when he decides to choose the fujo audience over them. For fujobait males to work you have to sacrifice your female talents too.
>>40652822
No. Fagoo's plan was to make them brotubers and once they became big enough switching to a fujo audience.

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>>40652758
>>40653062

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>>40652728
holodead engrim

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>>40652690
I don't understand why discord troons can't just fucking an hero and save us all the headache, and bump up their suicide statistics. I do hope one day some schizo anons actually go batshit and start murdering these fucking wastes of oxygen at some point

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https://files.catbox.moe/92mrmc.mp4

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Is holoen going to be filled with homo spam while the girls stream less and less? That seems to be their plan.

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>>40652758

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>>40653300
If it wasn't for Fauna I would be done with EN

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>>40653300
Well, it is not helping Tempoop the least. Here is the first week or so for Tempiss
>pic related
Only 7 streams below 4k.

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>>40652758
>>40653145

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>>40653132
>No. Fagoo's plan was to make them brotubers and once they became big enough switching to a fujo audience.


"brotuber" was always a meme at best half of tempus was planned with male audience in mind and that's how Vesper got relatively popular. Now they fucked with Tempus as a brand, this fujobait fags should debut as a proper gen with their own branding not this... experiment, dudes that got into tempus 6 months ago probably feel a little gay now (serves them right).

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This is the year of the vampire

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>>40652737
>>40652801
I think it's honestly impossible to have both a successful a male branch and a successful female branch coexist within the same company. Men and women simply want different things from their entertainment that are mutually incompatible.

For a male streamer to be popular with women he needs to have other women around to exist as props to make him look like a cool popular badass, meanwhile for a female streamer they want to reprioritize male interactions as much as possible. You don't need to go full unicorn but the second your content revolves entirely around other dudes, male viewers start getting filtered out.

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>>40652758
>>40653350

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You know, for the 'year of the rabbit' Pekora is doing poorly.

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I HATE ELECTROSWING
I HATE ELECTROSWING
I HATE ELECTROSWING
I HATE ELECTROSWING

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DAMN, Noel ASMR streams have strong legs, 765k in 3 weeks for a 15k, hour and a half stream

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Apex will not save Kuzuha. He is only playing it because the last Apex Cr Cup is happening next week.

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>>40653448
Define “poorly”. Barely more than a week in and she already make a fuck ton of money

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>>40652758
>>40653434

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>>40653448

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>>40653448
my dude, she has currently a fucking 60k median

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The boys aren't even live anymore

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>>40653512
Cover made money. We don't know if Pekora did
>>40653534
Low quality numbers. Tourist numbers from events aren't quality. Also she has looked like an idiot all throughout, she was humiliated in the mario kart tournament.

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I never realized till I got sick and can't do work, holy crap the Hololive deadzone is really bad huh? What was the point of EN again

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>>40653448
Stop falseflagging nousagi. Her curse doesn't work that way at all.
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>>40653525

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>>40653418
They've actually tried shipping axel with a staff member, it feels pretty desperate.

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>PekoMiko Daisensou on the top
>They keep trying to one up each other
>Only result in more and more people checking in HoloJP
>Everyone benefit
You rike?

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can someone explain this to me?

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>>40653591
You tell em sister.

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>>40653300
Has no affect on me since I only watch 1 from EN anyways

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>>40653602
Kiara already stealing Nodoka from him by cheering her up today.

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https://youtu.be/vqmh-8qU5Wg
still the best debut trailer

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>>40653490
Here is one of the quintessential videos with regards to that style
> What is Electro Swing? Electro Swing Explained in 2 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz-Dh5-qdkM
which gave birth to this amazing song
>[Electro Swing Remix] A Friend Like Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqW-Hfk0FN0

Even if you don't particularly care for the style, it is nice to see what makes it so distinctive

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>>40653540
That's what having streams on the table does for you. From stray posts I've seen I think a fair few people still don't know Ina is streaming later, so that leaves just Moom Geoguesser and pretty much nothing else.

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>>40653496
anybody have the original art from that thumbnail?

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>>40653610
Pekora said Suisei is her kouhai. Today Suisei bought her a yakisoba at the studio. Well she was kind of too excited about it but she bought her senpai a yakisoba

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>>40653418
Nijisanji females are successes. Just because they aren't THE most successful that doesn't mean they aren't successful. If you win silver at the Olympics you are still a success.

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>>40653675
well he still has Zeta I guess (not really sure about that)

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>>40653697
like geoguesser though. one of the better ftom

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>>40653727
cope

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>>40653727
second place is first loser

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>>40653610

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>>40653687
Check the new version
https://streamable.com/sswmq9

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>>40653388
The entire Tempiss project seems like a bad experiment and unfortunately HoloEN was the guinea pig. They debuted the fags and then pushed the whole Holopro bullshit with nonstop collabs and shilling, just to randomly drop it. Now they debuted Tempoop without any fanfare while trying to switch for a fujo NijiEN audience.
I just hope whoever was in charge of this dogshit got fired.

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>>40653300
Mumei tends to dogwhistle that she's aware of people's complaints when it comes to content at least

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>>40652690
Discord shills are the worse cancer of this world they unironically need meds

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>>40653673
Hololive EN doing badly will affect Irys as well. The mood of holoen is just getting worst and worst.

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>>40653610
Pekora made fun of Suisei being her kouhai following the order of official debut, and in Japan it's common for kouhai to buy foods to their senpais.
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>>40653598

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>>40653735
Poor Zeta, no one ever gave a shit about their ship since the Nodoka one popped up.

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>>40652737
That... actually makes a lot of sense. I've never considered the power dynamic between men and women being a determining factor in the lack of success from Stars.

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>>40653794
alright, that's pretty well done.
https://files.catbox.moe/xuq3qk.mp4

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>>40653760
Yeah, but what is there to talk about? Hoomans usually just 'moom post, moom reply, a cute, yeah!' unless she's live. It'll pick up in a couple hours when takotime hits.

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>>40652737
This is why I said red shota has the highest chance to be Tempus breakout.
He doesn't need to be an alpha, just acts like a brat who shy and sissy around fujo and yumejo. Also no female collab will cement him as the top friendly cbdct and tgat's exactly what doxxsisters want

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>>40653610
I did not expect this to become the most influential and memeable moment of the last 2 days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKy13Oel8nM

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>>40653723
Thanks anon!

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>>40653448
Retard she has a CCV of 60k currently that is higher then fucking ishowspeeds last year she is one again breaking new grounds in the vtubing world

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>>40653856
The graceful, benevolent queen FBK coming down from heaven to bless the HoloStars does seem like a bad look now that I think of it.

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>>40653313

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Aren't females the biggest shipfags? At least in anime/manga U thought they were.

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>>40653326
this, i hope she graduate and become indie, so i can fully anti this fucking branch

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>>40653978
Salome had a higher CCV but I guess we're gonna memory hole that.

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>>40652758
>>40653816

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>>40653723
I wonder how studio slots work, is it a few hour slot or is it something they reserve for the whole day?

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>>40653923
Probably why their pushing him so much, it doesn't seem to be working so far.

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JP7 is coming sooner than you expect

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>>40653727
I can agree to an extent, but I also feel like almost every single popular Niji female would also be more successful if they were in hololive instead
Also let's be real, there's like 7 women out over 100 people that you could qualify as a big success currently

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>>40653856
>>40653989
Now think about the opposite case: Roberu is thriving exactly because his "harem" is not there to prop him up, but to fight bitterly for a piece of him.

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>>40654003
Yes.
My sister and cousin still won't let go of the Naruto-Hinata ending.

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>>40653923
He will, every single Tempus member will get pushed by management to collab with at least one of the willing EN or ID girls

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>>40653816
Thanks

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>>40653591
Numbers are numbers she can now pull off 40k from thin air that is more then any vtuber has ever achieved

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>>40654014
For a two weeks or so, during Pekora break. When Pekora returned she reestablished the social order

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>>40653989
Wait, you mean it isn't sexy for a man to be an insignificant quivering inferior who has to meekly but gratefully accept the generous largesse of his female social betters? It's not cool for a guy to be so terrified of making a dirty joke that he'll instead claim he's a literal eunuch and it's a prerequisite for joining the branch? huh

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>>40653935
I unironically think there’s a group of people out there who enjoy PekoSui. Their Amogus English chat was pure gold, 2 blue women who started screaming at each other in chat for no reason
Also they both seem to love shooting up Miko in Rust

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>>40653091
I would even believe if the rrat that the girls won't play ball with tempus unity and now management cut them out one by one by make them bleed slowly, mumei manager encouraging her to go to school and not to worry about streaming at all, ina vacation without management advice for her presence on twitter, gura unending dissappearance(now with manager handle her account), kiara and mori already bleeding. Kronii play ball and management eager to support her on her drama tweet on twitter. Fauna and irys with management problem of not supporting them even delay the face revamp.

I wouldn't be suprise if there sudden announcement that gura graduated with health reason and she won't even be streaming for her last graduation or waiting her contract expire.

Yea, called me a schizo, cuz en management sure make me like this. Screenshot this.

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>>40654026
you say this every week anon

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>>40653995
When I see sankisei group pics nowadays I always check to see if the artist included a butterfly somewhere

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[Sad News] Botan conquered Deep Rock Galactic fanbase

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>>40652758
>>40654015

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>>40653591
>Low quality numbers
I wonder if this one is already in the NijiCOEP list

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>>40654019
I don’t really see r*ddit talking about the new homos, they’re all talking about Vesper.

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>>40653784
This boy is pretty cute. I sure hope he's not a massive cunt.

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>>40654014
Salome declined peko inclined that's the difference

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>>40654134
Their APEX collab with Towa back then wasn't very good though
Suisei kept mimicking Pekora's verbal tics that it got annoying

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https://files.catbox.moe/y9igxt.mp4
OH NO CHICKENFAGS!

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>>40654156
It’s quite literally a must at this point. They themselves always put the green butterfly somewhere in all of their anni last year

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>>40652758
Did you forget to include Kiara and Korone collab? I don't see her on the list.

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>low quality numbers

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>>40654283

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>>40653995

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>>40654283
it's between kanae and mio anon

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>Tryingthis hard to make someone numbers look bad
The sisters could always use the 300k event card but they don’t for some reason

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>>40654137
Why mention Mori in this rrat when she's the biggest homolover in the branch? Only takes credibility away. I suggest wiping her name from it.

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>>40654295
Give him a break he forgot his meds

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>>40652690
i will never understand how can someone be this subhuman in nature

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my cute wife

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>>40653434
Lotsa big-chested Pekoras today, huh.

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>>40654390
post-modernism

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>>40654003
depends, go into harems and the shipfags are guys defending their girl of choice because of the self insert MC.

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>>40654404
Oh nono teakek don't look!

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It's Suisei's turn on the thumbnail.
Also, I've been listening to a lot of vtuber songs again around new year.
Anyone else?

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>>40653856
I feel like Ame's stunt with Regis is the perfect example of the kind of shit that immediately turns off women viewers

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>>40652792
>Voxes love slave
Holy scizo

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>>40653923
even fagni saw that and tweeted that shit about eating shushi out of his tummy

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HOMOCHAD DOMINATION
Holy fucking Grim

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>>40653923
Shota's biggest issue is that his genmates aren't really on the same wavelength as him so the shota just comes across as over the top and extra. The clown and spic feel like complete normalfags next to shota

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>>40654488
Wait why would that turn off women? This discussion is based on this whole "alpha chads who pull powerful women are attractive" theory and that was basically Ame singing along with the new dude to spite her male viewers (sorta jokingly and sorta not jokingly). That sounds like a desirable woman picking him over her audience to me.

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surprised it wasn't from oberatai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoNIwWSg--U

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>>40654488
It’d be funny the hear the behind the scenes when that happened. Regis is like one step away from telling collab beggars to kill themselves.

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>>40654255
AHAHAHA! I forgot about that moment, I love her smug attitude at the end for no reason.
>>40652758
>>40654180

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>>40654544
I still remember time then Gura killer was 3 view.

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>>40654573
It wasn't because his version of the song had merit, it was because he was a failure

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>>40654435
harem self inserts is kind of a different beast from shipfags though

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>>40654578
I was convinced that it would be too short for oboretai to be satisfied, but i guess he had backup for his agenda this time

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>>40654635
I am both

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>>40654578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFTSE4h4SSs
That explains why it's making the recommendation rounds again.

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>>40654617
I'm going through my catbox links and there are so many good Pekora moments
the timeless classic: https://files.catbox.moe/q1ctji.webm

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>>40654629
Even the Gura Killer curse has reclined

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>>40654629
nijien inclining since luxiem era, but start reclining again since iluna

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>>40654206
It's pretty much like that everywhere. In my own haunts I haven't seen a single word about the new homos and maybe a couple about Axel and Magni, but as soon as Vesper showed up this morning everyone started talking about it. He's the only one the non-sisters care about.

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>>40654635
At least shipfags should be culled from every fandom they try to latch themselves into.

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I dont know why you faggots cry about oboretai all the time and act like he's fucking otakmori or something

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>>40654573
Because everyone with half a brain knows she only did that to use Regis as a tool to own her gachikoi. If Ame actually cared about Regis she would do collabs with him beyond her worms tourney

And it's not chad or badass to have a girl use you to own a bunch of virgins

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>>40654796
seethe faggot

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>>40654796
we know it's you, stop posting your clips here

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>>40654796
Because you're obnoxious and have an obvious agenda that shapes all of your cherrypicked clips, oboretai

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>>40652690
So these are the losers who create holo vs holo?

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>>40654026
You willed starsen2 into a way too early existence, please don't make uproar2 happen before both EN3 and JP7

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>>40654796
>act like he's fucking otakmori
Otakmori is a retard, oboretai is a malicious retard with a self serving goal

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>>40654839
>>40654838
>>40654832
Don't be angry because he clips what he likes.

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>>40654796
t. Oboretai

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>>40654049
That's a lot by nijisanji standards desu they have multiple "livers" below 100.

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PEKORA REPUTATION

>Hated
-Will overlap your events with buff content
-Will leave collabs if you are involved
-Will shill other streams in your timeslot

>Hostile
-Will overlap events
-Will never mention you willingly
-Will try not to collab with you

>Neutral
-May overlap minor events
-Neutral in collabs

>Friendly
-Will never overlap
-May talk about you randomly in zatsus
-One POV collab on her channel
-Will shill your events

>Mabudachi
-Will funnel your events
-Frequent talk topic
-One POV collab on your channel
-Frequent collabs
-Unlocks the legendary quest "Offline Collab"

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>>40654866
?

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>>40654582
Brought this upon himself desu. Could always tell ame off for roping him into this shit.

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>>40654842
No, fast track Tempus 3 RIGHT NOW. I want to see them fighting for the few number of fans they leeched from the girls

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>>40654156
Didn't Mike's new model have some butterfly motifs or was I imagining that?

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>>40654553
Because they were. Clown was just a streamer with an avatar in his PL.

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>>40654014
pekora culled salome unculled
bullshit numbers you base your judgement on

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>>40654796
both of them are cut from the same cloth

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>>40654866
he doesn't like half the girls he included in that fucking watchalong clip because some of them are straight up man haters, he can khs

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>>40654486
>A lot of Vtuber songs
>Only one woman other than Hololive
I bet you've never listened to one of Nanana's songs.
>>40654712
https://files.catbox.moe/rpty0f.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/q4enap.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/lmrzej.mp4
https://streamable.com/0i3g38
https://files.catbox.moe/g60wyp.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/0c7jlx.mp4
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>>40654617

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>>40654796
t.oborefaggot. don't you dare ever approaching Pekora with your tranny hands. T-chan has shat things up plenty already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654338
why so low

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>>40654767
meh, anecdotally, even in my gaming group d*scord with a couple of resident homofags/cuckbeats they talk more about him. Ironically RPR gets more talk than the other tempus, if at all.

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>>40655168
>kiara ch

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>>40652737
Very true

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>>40654882
Pekora is so autistic that it really may work like that in her head

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>>40654578
"Briefly" is an understatement. It was basically just a sentence lol
Still, it clears up Kiara's confusion

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655156
Don't pick on t-chan, she has to tard wrangle a bunch of fucking crybaby schizo unicorns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40653496
Well she probably got tips from the queen of asmr when they met.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655060
>I bet you've never listened to one of Nanana's songs.
For a moment I though you were talking about Fugami Nanana the retired Vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655268
Kino woman ᗜˬᗜ

[Anonymous No.]

>>40653349
Wasn't most of that collabs though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654941
How angry would starsJP fans be if t3 comes within a year of t2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655219
Pretty much, Kiara showed interest to Ina organizing it and was surprised she ditched her own plans to get a free ride on Axel’s cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654578
The best part about this clip is how visibly apparent Ina wants to move on from the topic asap

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655060
>I listen to le more vtuber songs than the small recommendation sample
>recommends Nanana of all people
This is why people don't take # tastes seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654253
Yeah, that was really unbearable. It was one of my first times seeing Suisei and I thought she was unwatchable. She must have just had a bad day or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655321
weird behavior desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655314
That is what I want to see. They might as well fast track Tempus 4 while they are at it to make it an even numbers
If Cover love the homo so much, they can debut as many of them as they like

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655390
She doesn’t want beggars shitting up her chat or trying to pressure her.

[Anonymous No.]

just woke up, how new homos are doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654253
>Suisei kept mimicking Pekora's verbal tics that it got annoying
on the contrary, i thought it was fucking hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655449
They’re already doing worse than Vesper when he was reclining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654578
Why is his mouth like that???

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654578
>Less than a 100 views
That's just your channel, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655471
Based dangling keys enjoyer..

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655422
Do you think they have something like that planned for tempus' anniversary in July?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654253
Oh hey, I've seen the animation of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1uohjKX5wo
Doesn't seem like Pekora was legitimately annoyed, it's just a bit

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/9u2D5EB32uI
Got recommended a JP clip of Mumei, and got curious of how they'd translate her. Check the description lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654796
he's much worse that otakmori

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655060
Who the fuck is nananana

[Anonymous No.]

>>40653591
Pekora is also in the cover of Comptiq magazine. Just wanted to let you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655471
I mean it's kind of expected at first since everyone imitates Pekora when they get a chance to, but it kinda felt like that Joe Rogan episode with Neil Degrasse Tyson interrupting him at every moment eventually

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655622
what a retard...

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655622
>The transcription alone took three hours and there is no confidence that it is correct.
>So it's amazing that native speakers can hear Mumei's English.
Kek

It doesn't help that she doesn't say full words 1/2 the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655622
Translator-san is working hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655632
You may remember her from her cover of KING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms0rToKR848

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655478
shush anon, it's rude to point it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655561
I think anon meant it annoyed him, it annoyed me too.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1082432606933725184

Four years since Hololive x bilibili contract signing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654544
>Nina more of a brotuber than homos
GRIM

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655493
found it on r*ddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655223
Go back to discord T-chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654544
Are they doing that 1 hour stream limit shit again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655744
I'm always impressed, and appreciative, of Mumei's translators.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655679
L-low quality magazine!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655774
I'm fucking glad those chinks screw themselves up by kicking Hololive out of bugland

[Anonymous No.]

https://files.catbox.moe/n7n377.webm

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655783
She also played New Vegas. I'm not sure why /v/ thinks New Vegas and DaS2 are tranny games though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655622
I'm now imagining what it must be like for someone who doesn't speak English to listen to Mumei talking.
She's somehow twice as cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>Machina 600 waiting
>Still 5 hours
I saw the usual nijisis on chat

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655812
T-chan isn't here, she has an actual real job and is incredibly busy

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655774
>literally first comment
WHAT THE FUCK?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655790
Wait really? Holy shit is the sub is that desperate for any holo homo interaction?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655872
>being a janny
>actual job

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655207
No one gets to visit her house, right? She probably has a giant whiteboard keeping track of her holomem ranking that they obviously cannot be allowed to see

[Anonymous No.]

>>40652690
What's the name of this discord group?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655866
New Vesper

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655882
HE KNEW

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655632
People thought she would be Chloe

at least i thought that and convinced some other people

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655918
KFP fancord

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655866
His waiting room got a raid by the Axel x Vesper collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655836

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655882
>>40655935
>Uncle T
>he joined Cover later
>now goes by T-chan and pushes for the homos

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655866
He just need dedicated clippers and bait shota x oneesan clips. Bonus point for mixing it with Noel clips

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655882
we were warned bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655961
I'm pretty sure that's one of nijiniggers discord

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655976
Why the fuck would you raid a waiting that's 5 hours out? Are these guys brain dead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655882
Homolive was a group that was popular on bili which contained Mea and Tamaki,

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656053
Drag as many afks there as you can

[Anonymous No.]

https://files.catbox.moe/uhd4ym.mp4
when will EN homos give us moments like this? there's a reason why Roberu is the king of the homos

[Anonymous No.]

>>40653803
They're already busy recruiting for Tempus 3 kek they went all in on this experiment even when it's clear that Tempus 1 was holostar "luxiem" and they have only diminishing returns after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655940
Better than my guess
The one I thought would become Chloe became Iroha instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655872
Anon even Reddit laugh at Reddit mods, it’s not a real job

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655422
The problem with this is that they're still just copying nijisanji and thus will always be behind niji.
But it doesn't have to be. The ingenuity of this not-a-new-gen approach is Tempus isn't bound by generations. What Cover needs to do is rolling debuts, as soon as they snag someone, prep him and hotdrop him. Wave after wave of solo debuts as new guild members. It'll mimic the organic nature of a guild. I think 1 per month isn't unreasonable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656053
what's the harm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656163
Please stop giving management ideas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655902
>>40656144
She does subs for Hologra and Holopro songs which is way more than any of you faggots do

[Anonymous No.]

Peko bum

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656113
what's their next niche? Competitive fags?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656053
it's so that they press NOTIFY ME

[Anonymous No.]

Thinking back on it, it wasn't until I stopped enjoying Mori's music that I started disliking Mori herself.

[Anonymous No.]

Antique numbers from year 2019 before Minato "Niji killer" Aqua killed Nijisanji,

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656213
Kek I want them to try it
If the homo is here to stay we might as well get some laugh out of them. Management should try every of their retarded idea on them, if it work, nice, if it doesn’t, we get a good laugh out of it while homo numbers doesn’t budge one bit

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656268

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656163
It would be a fun idea if they were a roaring success, but as they continue to fall into low 4view and 3view status that would just start to feel like tossing coal into a furnace

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656268
Would do anything to motorboat her little nip buttcheeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656285
roa....

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656249
T-chan please marry me ill help you mod leddit prease! im begging you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656249

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656249
Oh wow, so she's a translator?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655850
because /v/ is contrarian for contrarianism's sake, it's also not a hivemind but the loud /v/irgins are very loud and schizo. DaS2 is the worst Souls Game but it's not a bad action rpg (probably the best RPG elements Souls game), New Vegas is the best Fallout game besides 1&2 (And Underrail which mogs them all). More on topic, Nina's being the biggest bro, she's already doing amazing learning kerbal and she's announced her next themed week will be Warhammer themed, lots of brotuber options there

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656375
Yes, retardbro.
T-chan
Translator-chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656340
Would you do it if you had to motorboat Selen's first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656249
You tard weren't even born during the Miku era I see. That's something any fan would do in mere hours (for free) if they were given the opportunity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654796
>act like he's fucking otakmori
You're right. He's worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656053
They were both drunk

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656163
I would say 1 member every 3 months. Now they can hype and focusing on 1 member and probably grow the box and hopefully ot would be their salome

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656411
Sure but my tongue would only be out for Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656249
Wow such big and difficult job, that is like Lyger-tier of job

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656401

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656501
not even the translator....the QA bitch....

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656379
>DaS2 is the worst Souls Game but it's not a bad action rpg (probably the best RPG elements Souls game)
completely agree on this point.
>her next themed week will be Warhammer themed, lots of brotuber options there
still not watching nipplesanji but yeah they seem to have better game choices than the fucking Tempiss brotubers. But that's not a high bar honestly. I've been wanting to see Holos play Vermintide 2 for ages. And one of my favorite brotubers is a TWW dweeb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656401
I thought this was meant for Tranny or Tempus, something much more relevant to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656501
Subtitling chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656414
Never fails to amuse and depress me, seeing todays translators act big in their britches for doing ten times less than some random fag who used to sub as a hobby in their spare time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655060
Post rratto shimurreta

[Anonymous No.]

Originally, unicorn was used to refer only to those who take things to the extreme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656501
So not even a translator.. a proof reader. Fuck me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656285
what website?

[Anonymous No.]

If hololive production was star wars:
Myth - original trilogy
Hope - expanded universe
Council - prequel trilogy
Tempus - new triolgy

Rate please.

[Anonymous No.]

reddit hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656541
Total fairness by the way.
No special traitement by the way.
Did she even said anything about Ina's comeback ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656630
Hope - Star Wars Holiday Special

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656620
4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656537
I used to TL manga and QA people were helpful to make a good release. Competent ones anyways. Sometimes they're just another member's discord ass buddy that wanted to read chapters first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40653833
I'm pretty sure nodoka shit was there from the start and Zeta inserted herself later because they've been flirting on discord or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656681
Anon, have a little mercy. She wasn't that ugly

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656630
Not much of a throughline besides "two things people like and one thing people dislike."

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656426
How does the saying go about robber barons vs righteous people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656588
label your opponent the worst of the worst to dehumanize them
usual tactic to shut down arguments

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656702
Now she can try again with the new boys!

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656693
obviously you need a QA bitch but it's also not the same pedigree of job as the actual translator. You could probably pick up any random weeb from /a/ scanlation threads and they'd do just as good a job

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656379
As someone watching from outside Nina is interresting to me. She became the most subbed girl in Niji for a period by completely dropping her original fanbase and just attaching herself to Luxiem, only to detach herself later and try and get her old fans back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656568
https://files.catbox.moe/k7u3yk.webm

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656501

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656775
That and/or say you received death threats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656681
kek

[Anonymous No.]

i'm still baffled. 10 girls - 8 guys. What the fuck were they thinking....

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656588
Now a unicorn can be anything from a Ted Kaczynski tier schizo through someone who prefers not to watch males in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656854
I know! Where the hell are the missing two dudes?! There isn’t a pairing for every girl yet…

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656854
There is a very real chance that they'll have more boys than girls by the end of summer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656854
You're saying tempus2 should have been 6 guys?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656568
>>40656819
That stream should have gotten clipped more.
https://youtu.be/emWjfXcpYEU

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656825
Based series get based translators

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656681
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>40651878
>>40651987
if you don't look at what was said, yes. the guy said that it looks like there are just more fans of the brand, or the group as a whole, not of individual members. if you respond with "every member who streamed inclined", then it does seem like people are just fans of the group, not of any given member. like the first guy said.
(granted, the first guy's premise might still be mistaken.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656630
Tempus 1 is Rogue One

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656886
That's the beauty of it. If you prefer not to watch males, you're Ted Kaczynski

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656285
Numbers really did inflate a ton in the past 3 years. I know Mito was getting like 20k from time to time back when NND was still a valid alternative but I think prior to Coco's 3d live, we didn't really see 6 digit viewerships? I might be wrong since Aqua was probably pulling some insane numbers in Bilibili though it's harder to verify with how they compute for their viewership. Nowadays, you need at least 30k on a reaallly slow day to get gold.

[Anonymous No.]

https://files.catbox.moe/edu0ix.webm

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656854
I unironically believe EN management hired some sort of former nijiEN staff
at this point it's clear that they're just throwing shit at the wall hoping one of them becomes the next Vox

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/1uCmqYXGxD4
> JP members take great care when meeting other holomem so that they don't get doxxed
> Kiara : I don't give a fuck who gets doxxed, I wanna do things my way

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656915
Not him, but yes. I'd rather they didn't bother at all, but launching them at a 6 man gen instead of waiting would have set the two spares up better, and maybe it would have given them all in general a bigger bump. I guess they had an 8 man team planned from the start for this so it makes sense to wait rather than have a 2 man debut in the future, but that just goes back to the 'what the fuck are they thinking' timeloop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656854
9 girls - 8 guys - 1 genderfluid

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656729
I didn't think most people liked the prequel though. At most people said that it wasn't as good as the original.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654186
> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847, >>40653591)

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656987
20k is still a big deal. It’s just that gold is decided by the one on top, and the one on top just happened to be super big

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657023
You sure stretch anything you touch. Have you managed to extend your foreskin yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657023
I remember there was an incident where Subaru got suspicious knocks on her apartment door while streaming, and the rrat was her off collab with Kiara prior to that led some stalker to her place since she stood out so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657023
she's just a white people in japan, nobody actually care. they probably think she's a pornstar or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656798
She's got the right intuition to see where the wind blows, I think that's attributable to life experience

>>40656886
The first is based if it's directed at the right targets (Ted's only real mistake was collaterally involving civilians), the second is still based in a different way

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657046
Most people truly liked Revenge of the Sith (while recognizing it still had major flaws). At some point they started liking the prequels ironically because of the memes. And then finally a huge amount of people started liking the prequels unironically, because they're at least better than the sequels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654573
Ame showed no interest in tempus as males, Mori killed any shipping attempts early on, Kronii on the other hand does come off as hormy for their little anime boy dicks but it seems to be against her will and she had a whole weeks-long meltdown because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656915
>>40657041
I misread the shit out of that, disregard. Though which how things are going I wouldn't be surprised if the next wave is more than four. Yes, wave, I know what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657046
Don't let the nostalgia fags fool you. The prequels were shit too (3rd movie was okay-ish). It's just that the sequel trilogy was even more shit. I may not be into the whole BLM extremist thing but from a story standpoint, it would've been much more interesting to have Rey fall to the darkside, kill off Poe cause he's fucking useless, and have Finn and Kylo team up and turn it into an MiB or Rush Hour movie.

[Anonymous No.]

Salome lost the numbers but she sure as hell cuter and purer than most Niji girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656922
https://youtu.be/emWjfXcpYEU?t=1558
Holy fucking KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657345
Is it or is it not Debi?

[Anonymous No.]

Why is vtubing dying in the west?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656854
>What the fuck were they thinking.
Tempus was a smash hit and is the most popular stars group by far so they push for more tempus it is that simple. Tempus HQ all in all blow everyone exceptions away with memes like magging that was so popular even yagoo got in on it. Tempus Vanguard manage to get disgruntled nijsanji en fans to watch them. All in all Tempus was a hit no matter how much this thread wants to say otherwise. Plus with most of the girls coming back the schedule is looking full again so EN3 priority went down for another day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656942
>then it does seem like people are just fans of the group, not of any given member. like the first guy said.
That statement would only applly to nijisanji, where events got double or triple the viewership but each individual streamer barely got an increase
Claiming hololive members didn't get stronger individually because all of them got stronger is just plainly retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657405
HolostarsEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657411
Cope sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656825
holy fuck what a nostalgia trip

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657411
Full? Are you serious?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40654974
that's the froot boyfriend? You can't get more normie twitchfag than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657405
indies are growing, aren't they? though it's
>twitch numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657405
Waiting for the rise of ai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657232
I do wonder if avoiding the girls all together could have helped Tempus maintain the status quo of 4k-5k for Vesper/Magni and 1-2k for Altare and Axel. Were the collabs really something that was pushed to salvage their numbers (if it was then it backfired greatly). Or was Ame, Mori, and Kronii being petty and just wanted to own the haters (if I was in Tempus this would probably piss me off).

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657565
kizuna ai

[Anonymous No.]

It is not about this, but it could easily be: Okayu shows Laplus EXACTLY what Hololive is about
>Okayu Bribes the Judges with her Body
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ2ga8d5CJA

Cute girls doing cute and wacky things!

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657174
>they probably think she's a pornstar or something
yeah, about that...

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657405
viewers are just abandoning holo/niji for other corpos and indies

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657579
She started this let her finish it by making a fully AI ai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657613
Not in big enough numbers. Both boys on NijiEN (mostly on Luxiem) and girls on HoloEN were not strange to 15k, 12k, 10k streams on a somewhat regular basis even in 2022.
There is no small corpo or indie picking even 3k right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657405
The people who predicted the end of COVID lockdowns would reduce the market cap were right. The people who said people would get busy again with working or real life obligations were right. The global economy getting worse means less time for stream participation and less money to go around. Attention span is also low in the newer generations of humans, a lot of people prefer to veg out via tiktok and or twitter timelines. Also HoloEN management is actually retarded women who don't know what they're fucking doing, they had the golden goose and they strangled it

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657209
Mr Pinkett's reviews and they're consequences have been a disaster for the human race. People now unironically hate star trek tng as a whole thanks to RLM.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657405
yes, chink market still far more lucrative than eu and na combined

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657708
>The people who predicted the end of COVID lockdowns would reduce the market cap were right.
That doesn't explain HoloJP tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657748
wth doesn't he like tng?

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/Chara14302020/status/1612481525609816064?t=LiGTV3TaWdTQA_Of4OhVpA&s=19

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657405
Well... chuubas started off in the west as a refuge for the people who were tired of the constant state of politics injection and drama that was happening in most other hobbies.

Myth were a relatively tight knit group, and despite Mori's debut cringe and all the doomposting about twitch thots and whores infiltrating EN VTubers, Myth stood out amongst the crowd as an oasis where you could just go and rest when you were tired of the constant shitflinging everywhere else.

...but even that space is no longer safe, battle lines have been drawn, company policy is being overturned in front of your own eyes while something you loved is crumbling into dust - just like what is happening to every other hobby. So those who seek refuge will simply give up on this hobby like all the others, and try to find something else to do with their time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657748
>People now unironically hate star trek tng
The one with Picard? It takes a very plebian mind to hate on that

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657845
TV program?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657867
I rewatched it very recently, last month.
It's good but DS9 is better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657890
https://twitter.com/onegairank/status/1612300844166438912?s=20
Yeah, seems to have been part of this program whatever it is as far as I can tell from Twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40655882
that's an ancient meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657708
>Also HoloEN management is actually retarded women who don't know what they're fucking doing, they had the golden goose and they strangled it
Mostly this. The other things are true too, but if things are good and you still have just as much fun with it as you used to, you make time for it. If you have less free time than you used to though, and the thing you enjoyed only gets worse and/or less frequent, you walk away and do something else. They could have kept the ball rolling after after lockdowns ended but they fucked it up, whereas JP didn't, so they're doing fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657845
>>40657890
I assume it's this one
https://twitter.com/onegairank/status/1612300844166438912

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657690
but are those small corpos reclining as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40656285
Gibara...

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657964
>>40658025
Holy fuck Ruri-nee as a guest, she fucking made it huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657812
It's his favorite show. He thinks the TNG movies are retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657812
>>40657867
they actually really like the show and hate the extremely bad movies but the movie hate videos are the only ones young people have watched so now people are retroactively thinking the show wasn't great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657932
I liked even the Enterprise, with T-Pol

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657405
Lack of unity and support. I think hiring a bunch of people who live spread out across multiple countries was a bad idea. The JP girls all basically live in the same city and see each other often, hang out outside of work, can offcollab easily, have access to the studio. EN girls have none of that. If Cover set up a studio in LA and had every talent live in the city it would be a very different story. Every HoloEN would be 5 view. Even shitters like IRyS and Kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40658068
https://youtu.be/9WjFVP0DBs0
I feel obligated to shill my oshi and Ruri-nee's cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>40658084
I only watched the series and I never ever ever EVER give reviewers (you)s or views so I'm immune to said malarkey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40658159
oh shit I never found this one, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

BRONZE
>4x: Holol
>4x: Niji
DORRRYAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

Sasuga Nenechi!

[Anonymous No.]

>>40657800
HoloJP tried to improve and many people think they did. Their 3D obviously got a lot better, it took that completely mortifying Roberu model to do it. Lives got a hell of a lot better too and people like that content. Others don't like the changes and I understand their reasons but it's objective Hololive is still really popular and has growth potential.

Whether or not Cover strangles them too is a different issue though.

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>>40657405
If you mean HoloEN, it's because they don't stream.

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>>40658159
Thanks, I didn't know this one.

For as much grief this thread gets, this is truly the crossroads of this hobby, there are fans of pretty much every type of vtubers here, from the biggest to the smallest passing through all the intermediate levels

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>>40658220
>>40658285
no problem. the original got wiped during holocaust. instead of unprivating it, they decided to make a new one instead

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I think Axel scheduled a stream to overlap one of the new homos. I think they're testing how much people they have in the homo box.

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>>40658265
she didn't actually show any of the scenes right? just the fluffy romance portions and slice of life stuff?

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>>40657573
Probably not, they had a novelty factor that run out pretty fast because in the end of the day hololive audience came for the waifus not some dudes with avatars. They could avoid causing drama and killing mood around the branch as a whole though.

That Ame stuff felt planned in order to normalize homos, at least it's pretty clear for me that was her idea with that cringy duet and shit. Later you had both male and females streaming their POVs also watchalongs done either by males or females, something they never done before but surprisingly similar concept.

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>>40656285
some more funny old numbers

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>>40658311
Nah she showed a BJ but just covered it with a giant cartoon beetle.

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>>40658281
HOMO DOMINATION

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>>40658311
She censored them with some impromptu drawings

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>>40657405
Reminder that Pippa went from like 800 6 months ago to now being a solid 4 view who can easily get to 2k.
The problem is Niji and Holo are coming out with absolute bombs and people are either leaving or fucking off.

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>>40658303
>I think they're testing
They're not.
Both boys and girls in the EN branch already gave ample indications that they schedule their streams based on their personal preferences instead of based on what their audience would prefer.
That's how they roll, there is nothing that can be done about it

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>>40658302
I still haven't forgiven the loss of Subaru's FF7 and Chrono Trigger streams...

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>>40658349
>>40658361
holy based, nice one nenechi

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>>40657800
JP still has the oasis effect mentioned by another anon, you can enjoy the streams decoupled from all the bullshit in modern Western societal discourse. EOPs/ESLs numbers suffer from losing people who became dedicated LiveTLers/JP Clippers who had to go back to the real world, but overall they are a lot stronger because of general improvements and concerted efforts to keep shows entertaining, creating constant collabs and events, and doing stuff that pushes them in the greater Japanese media sphere

>>40657998
You're completely right. A lot of fans will move on when things get worse. I started watching a lot more variety as my interest in HoloEN waned, and some of it is some of the girls not putting out but most of it is them being hamstrung by management. This isn't unique to EN (but it is far more severe), however you feel about Coco for example, you can't deny she probably chose to graduate because of how much she kept getting hamstrung from the content she wanted to do

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>>40658390
I had to dig through billibilli to recover some of Sora's lost covers...

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>>40658362
Again, see >>40657690, Pippa incline to 4 digits and some small corpos inclining to low 3 digits don't account for the missing tens of thousands of the audience Holo girls and Niji boys dropped

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>>40657573
I feel like if they stuck to more of the stuff they said they'd do (podcast doko) and kept to only trying to focus on tempus like they said they would do it would have gone better for them. Easier to actually root for them as underdogs when they're not leeching the girls

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Ina in 90 minutes. Gonna be playing Pokemon if she sticks to her plans from yesterday.

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>>40657848
>and try to find something else to do with their time.
And then that space will be invaded. No one wants anyone to be happy and free of conflict. It feels like sometimes. We always have to have political conflict on our minds and angry at people we don't agree with. It's genuinely tiresome.

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>>40658340
Holy incline Roberu

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As long as no one from HoloJP starts a stream today, Patra might have a chance for gold!

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>>40658481
I beleb that this is the dying candle's last spark though. Some things I have seen across the last 5 years and HoloJP in general gives me enough hope that things will not be the same anymore.

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>>40655961
>t. nijinigger

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>>40658429
>Coco for example, you can't deny she probably chose to graduate because of how much she kept getting hamstrung from the content she wanted to do
This is based on the voices in my head but I legit think this is the moment she decided she was going to quit
https://youtu.be/7njT1nzLi6Q

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>>40658429
>however you feel about Coco for example, you can't deny she probably chose to graduate because of how much she kept getting hamstrung from the content she wanted to do
She did, but her circumstances were very different.
She wanted to take it much further than what HoloJP was willing to allow, with one example being
>collabing with Projekt Melody

Here is the thing: Melody is the sweetest girl, a true enterpreneur having cofounded VShojo and likely the most professional of all VShojo girls. But her brand and Hololive brand couldn't be farther apart.
There was no upside for Hololive to allow that collab to happen, it was all downside and they correctly said no.

It was not just that that led Coco to graduate but that is one example of the distance between Coco
>want to have fun
attitude and the company responsibility with their existing audience and talent roster.

Phase Connect is going through a similar dissonance with Pippa having inclined by being "EN Coco" but the rest of the company trying to position themselves as a serious one instead of a meme one.

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>>40657845
QUEEN!

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>>40658340
>3view Choco-sen!?
I'm assuming this was after Susan Order 66'd ASMR content
>Roberu 3view and almost at 2view tier
Damn, Rob really did make good on his promise to shine by his own strength. Why the hell couldn't we have gotten more Roberus instead of whatever faggotry we currently have right now in HomoEN.

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>>40658137
lol good luck hiring enough people for that

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>>40658302
The original was never wiped in the 'holocaust'.
It was hosted in Ruri's channel and fine.
At the end of 2020 or begining of 2021, Ruri retired the original MV in order to redo the visuals.
There must be something going on there but it has nothing to do with the Cover mass privatizations that happened many months before.
Here's a copy of the original MV
I prefer this watercolor visuals. Other than that, it should be the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbw000oQ9KY

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>>40652003
Marine might've still made it happen.

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>>40658672
He is a leech as well just not a holo leech.

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>>40658693
I didn't know that, thanks! I thought it was wiped along with Sora's other covers on youtube during that tie

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>>40658736
>leech
He outranks most if not all his collab partners. How does it make him a leech?

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>>40658455
I think you're miss interpreting my comment anon. I obviously don't think Pippa on the whole stole EN's audience anon. Maybe a handful at best. My comment is more that EN vtubing isn't dying. If it were then small corpos would also be dying as well and struggling to grow when that's not happening. Most of the small corpos are unironically at their peak, imagine saying during Luxiem's boom that 8 months later there would be Niji members on the same tier as idol corp. The environment itself isn't bad yet

My point is more that EN vtubing isn't dying, Niji and Holo are just dropping the ball

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>>40658616
they all tried so hard... yet they couldn't stop her from thinking it was her fault...

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>>40658795
seethe faggot

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>>40658844
kek. that doesn't even make sense

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>>40658846
I will never forgive the Chinese

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>>40654253
>>40655378
huh, I thought it was funny in >>40655561, but I can see how it could eventually get old.

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>>40658636
Agreed with your analysis completely. Coco was always straddling the line, enough so that /hlg/ threads were basically a brawl between the people trying to protect Hololive's brand (unicorns) and people who enjoyed the chaos whenever she'd do a new stream. I couldn't fault Cover for denying her, and I couldn't fault her for wanting to leave either as a result. HololiveJP is one of the few places you can get "seiso"tubers and idol vtubers, Coco's presence was so prominent one of my good friends hated her just being at HL.

And yeah, definitely feeling it with Phase Connect and Pippa, she's in a weird spot because her popularity stems from controversial nature but it's clashing with PC's plans and what they want her to be for them. Hung out on those streams where she was crying because she wants to be herself but feels bad that she's letting down PC in their efforts to not be the meme company

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>>40658736
I'd take him over any of this faggots anytime of the week and twice on Sundays. The way he salvaged the atrocity that was his 3d debut and made it entertaining despite everything going against him, the fact that he never complained about it and just kept moving forward, not to mention he actually understands and respects idol culture since he's an idolfag himself. I hate HomoEN and I'm indifferent to Holostars except for Roberu and Oga since his a Lunaito that knows his boundaries.

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>>40658905
should've just bit the bullet and endure
that works really well with foobs

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>>40658795
He certainly does not outrank Tamaki, Maimoto and the rest of that gang

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>>40658811
>If it were then small corpos would also be dying as well and struggling to grow when that's not happening.
But it is. You might not have noticed because you are focusing on the winners of a BATTLE ROYALE that pretty much wiped out the field with Phase picking up the pieces.

They even poached two of the CyberLive girl, Yuri and Lumi, and contributed to the downfall of that one company. AkioAir is going the same way and I wouldn't doubt Phase ends up being the "last man standing".

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>>40658455
Eh, I feel like Pippa's incline is mostly from the weird farms fanbase. She gets advertised a lot by youtubers like almighty Loli, Rekieta Law etc.. and she even appeared in Metokur's last stream.

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>>40658905
I wonder if she would still stick around if the Taiwan yab didn't happen. her and hololive's directions seemed to conflict a lot.

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>>40657573
Whoever was running EN read the market wrong that co-ed interactions were totally okay and normal which it is but not in a hobby like this and not in group like hololive. So they pushed and still continue to push thinking oh it's okay if there's a little resistance since their numbers though shit is lightyears above starsjp. And with the first couple of co-ed collabs the numbers were great ngl and it basically greenlit more homos because it seemed like they did it in terms of making a successful male vtuber compared to floproar. If they maintain 4-view ccv expect more by the end of the year since they want to capture more of this illusive market for males in the EN sphere. Also the spic is a fat faggot that could go pound to pound with fulgar.

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>>40659099
I believe that those who kept shooting her down were chink sympathisers

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>>40658673
surely there are unemployed people in LA.

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>>40657405
>no lockdowns so all streaming stats have been down, including twitch
>everyone is poorer thanks to the Ukraine war
>market is oversaturated with EN tubers from youtube and twitch
>fad is over

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>>40659013
I think he's the actually the reason why Cover goes all out with their models now.
His 3D debut was an absolute embarrassment to Cover that he managed to carry.

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>>40658481
...y'know, I feel that Kronii specifically is responsible for this shit. Calli's dumb as hell, but mostly inflicts those problems on herself and most consequences were self-contained (realistically, nobody outside HoloEN gives half a fuck about Party House). Kronii's problem is that her shit dragged a fuckload of outsiders into the conversation so they could stomp around and act like they were morally superior, then fuck off because they never cared about the hobby in the first place. And now we've been plagued by the dregs of the virtue-signaling beggar cesspool ever since.

Voxsisters at the start of 2022 were a plague to be sure, but they mostly just numberfagged about big numbers; they never made it some kind of moral failing that you weren't watching him.

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>>40659036
>He certainly does not outrank Tamaki, Maimoto
Obviously not, but he surely outranks Mea and most if not all of the 774 Inc. girls.
"Leeching" doesn't exist anyway, that's a cope word created to try to pretend "box pushing" a bad thing.

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>>40659013
He still collabs with the HoloJP girls who are okay with collabing with him though? The only difference between the JP and EN stars is the number of girls who are willing to interact with them. Roberu collabs mostly with girls from other jap agencies because hardly anyone in HoloJP will give him the time of day, not because he's respecting idol culture.

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>>40659013
The EN equivalent of what Roberu does would just be collabing with random twitch fags like Shoto which people complain about too

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>>40658980
I think Phase can still succeed in becoming a legit contender in the EN sphere and not just be the /here/tuber company. But they really need to find either their own Pekora that can equal or outrank Pippa without doing what Pippa does. Or find their own Sora that can serve as an anchor so Pippa can be as unhinged as she wants without dragging the entire company completely in her direction.

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>>40659163
I'm not so sure about that. her ideas are too radical and edgy considering what Cover wants their public image to be.

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>>40659203
Shouldn't have sperged out about a harmless DbD collab, unicorn

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>>40659311
I think that's greatly exagerrated. What has she done that's so radical and edgy as Kson?

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>54K likes
>374K views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU4YkHyXuDI
This bitch is seriously starting to get on my nerves.

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>>40659058
Anon you're the one focusing on the losers over the winners. Yeah of course for any 10 people that go in to streaming 9 will end up failing, but it's not just phase they're only the biggest. Kawaii is going to be doing 3D debuts in like 2 weeks, idol was able to come from having boderline 1views to solid 3views.
a handful of companies failing is not indicative of the entire space reclining, it just shows who's rising to the top, but the fact that these companies are still making names for themselves shows the scene is not dying. If you pick up new streamers from a dying corpo and they end up doing better that they did before, that shows the problem was with the corpo not the scene

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The monopoly collab coming up this Sunday is gonna be a good indicator of how big a pull these kinds of collabs will have without the first-time buff. The first one was great numbers, but so do people still care?

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>>40656541
this must be fake, she said that she is 100% impartial

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>>40659395
That looks like a normal ratio.

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>>40659203
If kronii wasn't accepted to hololive she'd be a virtue signaling indie with her true friends. Because not even knowing Ahoy months into hololive deserves graduation

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>>40659277
Agreed. They need a legitimacy anchor. It would be the best of both worlds for them if they had the Pekora/Sora equivalent, they have some good talent available but they need a "clean" star to balance out the "dirty" star, even though Pippa isn't REALLY all that bad

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>>40659353
>went from most popular council to least popular
>our fault

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I honestly wondering how Coco would have interacted with all the Holos who debuted after she graduated and would she had interacted with the Tempus boys

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>>40659356
it's not so much about kson (I don't watch her), it's about what she did during her tenure in Hololive. just look at asacoco in the beginning and how watered down it became towards the end. she definitely got restricted in many aspects. the Taiwan yab didn't help at all, especially if you look at the first episode of asacoco when she came back. someone has got to give, either the management or her. I don't see Cover changing their way for one person and Coco didn't want to bend. this led to the situation we have today.

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>>40659560
>least popular
Not what outfit numbers show

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>>40659443
Glad Bae isn't involved with that collab seeing how insufferable her fans can be by using the game as a euphemism for sex.

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>>40659185
If you solely hired from LA you'd end up with a bunch of people of a similar character to Mori more likely than not. I don't mean because she's from there, which she isn't, but because that city attracts the worst kind of fame-chasers. Good luck maintaining Hololive culture with a branch full of women like that.

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>>40658074
Mike and Rich love TNG. Hell, they even found Voyager has its worth. But they despise the TNG movies and new trek.

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>>40659443
Why was their a male and female view for this?

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>>40659443
I think it will get good numbers. I've seen more sisters in the catalog today because of this new Kronii collab than during the Tempoop debuts.
Plus it's been a long time since the last one. The threads will be absolutely fucking dogshit anyway.

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>>40659462
I see sisters are lurking 24/7 to deflect huh?
Normal ratio my ass!
This is a normal ratio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3FpRS-TYxI
Now fuck off to your discord!

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>>40659356
Nothing. Having a collab with Melody on chaturbate or advertising a rainbow “Prize Pizza” is what’s expected from an indie. It just doesn’t fit Hololive brand

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>>40659353
Kronii's the one who set the unicorn expectations, then trashed them in under 24 hours. And even then, all she had to do after DBD was some combination of nothing and/or just setting new boundaries. She still might've self-destructed (flip-flopping is bad, regardless of context) but it wouldn't have dragged everything into the culture shitstorm we ended up in. There's nothing inherently wrong with being ok with collabing with the dudes (Bae never gets shit for it, nor Mumei for doing that Gartic Phone collab) but people get pissed when you make it everyone else's problem.

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>>40659612
Again, it's not that edgy or far outside what is already within Hololive. An ojisan hypnotising young women is edgy.
>>40659617
Thats just a sign that people are willing to give chances, what is more important is how that affected CCV for regular streams.

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>>40659196
The other points I might concede, but how has the war made people poorer if you're in NA or Asia? Don't say inflation, because that started in 2021 long before the war began.

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>>40659443
>Vesper got suspended
>Magni was hit by a car
>Kronii's cat died
Even if no one graduated, the curse is undeniable.

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>>40659462
This looks like a complete braindead faggot.

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>>40659722
setting boundaries after the DbD collab is exactly what she did

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>>40659644
Was originally meant only to be Mori, but Mag wanted some views for himself.
Fun site note, I went back to check the overlap and Niji was having one at the same time with some iLuna members who were also fresh out of the oven by then.