/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Even leddit hates Homo now LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
>needed narrative control
Holy fucking shit. I hope this was some shitposting.

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>>40331645
go back

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>>40331645
I can't believe I'm considering calling any redditors based, but they've earned it. Just this once.

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>>40331645
Illiteratechama... they just hate reddit's dog shit moderation.

[Anonymous No.]

Awesome glad to see them standing up for once. They've been kicked down their whole existence

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>>40331645 (me)

it's easy to make reddit hate tempus when it's all me

[Anonymous No.]

we did it /veetee/ !!!

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>>40331645
Sasuga homobeggars

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>>40331814
That's possible, but at least these ones here seem pretty annoyed by the level of homo shilling now being at the expense of normal Holo discussion.

If they're a reflection of us, we had a doom and gloom meltdown for a bit but within like a day had a kind of turnaround out of pity after seeing their models, and some people decided to try giving them a chance.. around here, that was probably 90% on the assumption that they'd be their own independent little underdog unit and you'd be kind of assholes to shun them before even knowing them.

Nowadays however no, they're forcing Nijisanjification on the whole branch and everyone needs to fucking put their foot down and say no.

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>>40331842
I made this post btw

[Anonymous No.]

Good
Edit: OMG so many upvotes!!
Edit2: Gold!?????? God thank you kind stranger!!! First time in my life!!! Im so happy!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
Based leddit for once

[Anonymous No.]

>unicorns are ledditors

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331817
Stand up! Those who refuse to be slaves!
With our flesh and blood, let's build our newest Fire Wall!
Hololive is at its greatest peril,
Each one is forced to let out one last roar.
Stand up! Stand up! Stand up!
We are billions of one heart,
Braving the enemies' fire, March on!
Braving the enemies' fire, March on!
March on! March on! On!

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>>40331959
And of course I forgot to mention in the reflection of us part, that's talking about tempus 1 (I guess you'd call it). Tempus 2 is more of shock that they unironically actually did this and there is basically not a positive thought in sight about them outside /mans/.

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>>40331645
And the ones that have to eat the shit and the bad comments about this bullshit are the new homos, that is the thing that makes me angry the most. I don't even watch or gonna watch them ever, but those guys pay for the shitty nijification decision of the management

[Anonymous No.]

>"WAHHH I CAN'T SHILL MORI'S 418TH SONG, HOW ARE THE ANTIS GOING TO KNOW THEY'RE BEING OWNED?"

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>>40331645
Manlylive....

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>>40332230
If they didn't want to deal with that shit then they shouldn't have applied to homostars.

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>>40331645
I never thought I'd die fighting side by side with a deadbeat

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>>needed narrative control
The narrative that they are allocating resources into becoming Nijisanji?

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>>40331645
Redditors are actual braindead sheep who just follow whatever trend is happening at any moment in time.
Give it a week and they'll be back to worshipping them. Reddit just attracts double-digit IQ retards in the same way 4chan attracts invalid schizos.

[Anonymous No.]

wait i thought the homos have their own subreddit

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>>40332283
How is that your takeaway from this

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>>40332567
How about side by side with a CGDCT enjoyer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
Honestly it’s about time, people didn’t like tempus… they didn’t dislike them either but they didn’t care about them or else they’d actually watch them… and yet the subreddit was filled with nothing but tempus posts for like 4 months…

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
They’ll get downvote bombed once the homo discords get pinged

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>>40333076
>with nothing but tempus posts for like 4 months
Obvious lie, I don't even need to use Reddit to know it

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
Cover will never admit it but using the hololive subreddit for both hololive and holostars was a mistake. There isn't enough viewer overlap to make it worth the trouble. The reddit backlash will be even worse when Tempus 3 gets released while fans are still waiting for EN3.

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>>40332529
They didn't even know what holostars was.

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>>40333076
people gave them a chance to prove they wouldnt fuck everything up and they fucked everything up
-causing infighting between existing fans
-bringing in the twitter hordes
-making management openly take a stance against the fans
-bringing in racist twitch SJW psychos and clout chasers

they couldnt have done anything to make themselves more shitty and if you see no problem with any of these actions you're the problem and you need to fuck off and be gatekept out of everything forever.

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>>40332886
They do, it’s just significantly smaller than the main one.

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>>40333299
Of course that last redditor being based got downvoted

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333383
They do, but they get to use the main sub anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>mori promotes homos early so she can collab with them
>her ccv gets killed and now she cant shill her song
roru

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331814
And what is the reddit mod using their dog shit moderation powers to do? Suppress dissension.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
Kudos for them saying enough is enough

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>>40333257
They're willing to sacrifice all of hololive at the alter of holostars, the reddit is just an obvious sign but dont mistake it, they will burn it all to the ground because they're activists

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>>40333299
For people defending an entertainment company which thrives on irrational support, you would think people wouldn't keep trying to convince others that they're feeling irrational hate. That's about the worst thing you want people to believe because after they double down you have no clear way of defusing it.

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>>40333429
>lapwhore flair
>based
lmao

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>>40332886
They do, but it's dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333299
What sucks is if Tempus 2 flops, management is gonna beg the girls to bail them out with collabs but if they’re successful they’re gonna keep accelerating the amount of homos they pump out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
They should just make their own subreddit free from Cover if they want to talk about the girls. It was stupid of them to give it up to Cover in the beginning.

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>>40333331
I can't for the life of me understand what possessed them to hire a repulsive cretin like vesper. Just a complete and utter creep with zero talent or charisma. It's like they found some random late 20s burnout IT guy who mods a discord server and gave him the job. Unironically what were they thinking. The other 3 are okay though.

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The HoloEN community/fanbase used to be one of the better ones, but sadly it has become fractured and embittered by management's spiteful actions.

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>>40333596
meant to reply to >>40333421

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>obvious containment breachers shitposting
>LOL LEDDIT AGREES WITH US
>>40333299
prime example here, the sub always gets locked whenever a big announcement happens, same thing happened when Rushia and Sana left

[Anonymous No.]

>>40332886
they do. nobody uses it though so homos are forced to hijack the hololive subreddit.

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>>40334128
>whenever a big announcement happens, same thing happened when Rushia and Sana left
Anon, a fucking debut should not require the same amount of damage control as a graduation

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>>40334128
>the sub always gets locked whenever a big announcement happens, same thing happened when Rushia and Sana left
Saying they have to treat the announcement the same way they treat a graduation as opposed to say the HoloX or Council announcements is far harsher condemnation than anything anyone else has said in this thread.

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>>40333872
Eh, I despise vespies and their retarded fanfictions but he's still the only decent male chuuba around. He'd be much better as a fleshstreamer though.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do virgins always sperg out like this when their imaginary waifus are within 5 miles of a penis?

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>>40331645
No but seriously what the fuck is Cover doing? Clearly they knew how this would go over if they immediately locked down their whole reddit. Why the fuck would they debut more dudes before girls, when the girls are in desperate need of new blood? Who ever is actively sabotaging EN like this needs to be stopped.

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>>40334401
The sad part is they're not virgins. They're bitter men who broke up with their girlfriends/wifes and now they want an "ideal" and "perfect" girl.

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>>40334401
Shitposters with nothing better to do. Most unicorns are being ironic.

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>>40334352
I don’t think Tempus first debut announcement was even met that negatively on that site. The only reason it’s even a shitshow is because they’ve been dragging their heels on EN3 for a year and a half.

[Anonymous No.]

Who the fuck cares, JP Gen 7 WHEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333735
Guess we'd better support these boys then

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>>40333557
>They're willing to sacrifice all of hololive at the alter of holostars
If they try that shit in Japan it won't be long before some crazy gachikoi Aoba's the shit out of Cover's HQ.

[Anonymous No.]

You unicorns are so pathetic you are actually siding with reddit lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334518
Not to mention they lost a girl, Ina's been on break and Gura also seems out of it lately. It's not uncommon you would have like 1-2 streams the entire day the past month+. They absolutely need a headcount refresh periodically because it's natural for the prior hires to slow down, most of the JP girls also slow down after doing this for a few years. Yet JP is doing better than ever because they have 34 girls and so there are always always streams to watch daily. You literally don't need anything besides Holo for your vtuber needs for JP. That is NOT the same at all for EN and this is a huge problem. Cover's seriously blowing it, letting this market just slip away.

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>>40334616
Nah sorry bud, YOU are still on the side of the majority of that reddit. The updoots don't lie.

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>>40334518
>The only reason it’s even a shitshow is because they’ve been dragging their heels on EN3 for a year and a half.
No, the reason it's a shitshow is that now everybody knows Cover fully intends to shove homos down your throat if you want to enjoy your holos.

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>>40334504
The idea of divorced dads being into vtubers is kinda funny. Instead of spending huge amounts on cars or model train sets or Warhammer 40k they send superchats to fauna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334616
Most of them are still cover bootlickers. They just less active.

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>>40334712
But anon, the updoots are clearly on the side of the unicorn in the cap, unless...
You are not looking at the actual thread in reddit are you anon?

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>>40334616
>unicorns
>siding with reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334247
Finding out that homobeggars actually, legitimately exist outside of /vt/ delusions is eye opening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333299
Funny thing is that these are reddit good boys otherwise they would not be able to comment.

>As an anti-brigading measure, recently created accounts or low karma users are not currently permitted to participate in /r/hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334855
Cope. One look at that garbage subreddit shows your type comes from there, reddit-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334128
>homos are as bad or worse than graduation
well they are killing hololive/en vtubing in general

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331809
Raise your standards, this is like calling anyone who posts forfree.jpg "based".

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331989
it's funny because this is also a leddit meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40335174
More based than a fucking jannie at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334247
why am I supposed to care about this? You keep reposting it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334247
>>40334972
I told you all that Holostars fans literally anti the girls and make up nearly 50% of the harassment they get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
>Homostars EN 2 force Hololive off leddit
Homostars looking kinda based, NGL

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334506
That's almost worse than being an unironic unicorn, because it ends up validating the thing you know is retarded. Satire just doesn't work when dealing with schizos.

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>>40334401
I wouldn't even give a shit if they actually released some female EN gens. At this point there should have been HoloEN 4 already

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
how dare mori promote her song over tempiss
can't she take care of her kohai ?
where's the unity???
she can do her talking stream any other day

[Anonymous No.]

Cover just lucked into their success with EN and are just trying anything to follow up on it besides supporting their existing talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40335510
Not bending over backwards to kiss homostar ass? That is not unity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40335510
Nobody wants mori collabs with tempus but she can't help herself. You should know any better by now cuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333557
>because they're activists
wokeshit en managers
disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

I love how Redditors always pretend they're the vast majority and anyone who doesn't want hololive to be nijified with male x female collabs left and right is a loud minority parasocial incel etc.

Yet when it comes to actually watching streams and showing up they're nowhere to be seen. It's always the same fucking story.
If they all love the boyz so much how come they have shit tier viewership and subs compared to the girls?
Where is everyone?

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>>40331645
With Reddit on board (for the next five minutes anyway), I motion to have the EN management's heads fly off. It was obvious that the male collab with HoloEN received a huge backlash that they stopped doing it. It was obvious people want more Hololive girls, but now not only they debuted a new homo gen, the backlash is so immense they had to lock up the subreddit.

Fire all of EN management. Fire ANY talent that obstructed or delayed Hololive EN3. Revenge at all cost.

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>>40331645
Go back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336171
it's the vocal minority pretending they're not the vocal minority

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.reveddit.com/v/Hololive/comments/103nmdo/new_holostars_english_tempus_members_set_to_debut/?ps_after=1672912134&showFilters=true&removedby=anti_evil_ops%2Cmod
for anyone who wants to see the good stuff, they're deleting posts for the slightest critique

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>>40336069
>>40336128
yeah that's not in her whore nature isn't it?
she need to bleed more audience !!!
am i right sisters!

[Anonymous No.]

locking down the whole subreddit so people can ONLY discuss the new homos is actually some insidious shit
How can you pretend they're not forcing it on people at that point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336438
christ, even that last post that could be just a joke supporting them got removed

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>>40331645
They're beginning to believe..

[Anonymous No.]

I can easily enjoy male streamers but I can't bring myself to watch a male vtuber. Why is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336438
>removed 26 mins ago
Subreddit has been locked down for 16 hours and people are asking for it to be unlocked so they can make posts about Ame's bday and Mori's song, people are coping saying mods are asleep and forgot to unlock it but it turns out T-chan is just hoovering up any criticism in the homo thread instead of doing anything worthwhile.

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>>40334639
It's funny seeing comments in that thread saying "if you don't have EN streams to watch and you're an incel loser who won't watch boys, go look for indies or something". Like, if your branch is so fucking dead and stagnant that people have to recommend indies, that should be setting big fucking red flags to management that something is wrong.

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>>40336873
Because male VTubers are drawn with bishonen bodies and faces. They're fujobait. Male streamers look like normal people.

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>>40336767
>Japanese company comes to the West
>West has a certain way of doing things
>Japanese company doesn't adapt to it and wants to do things their own way
>West flips shit
>Japanese company tries to quell wrongthink
>West doesn't work like that and so they flip shit harder
Pull your head out of your ass Cover, anyone could have seen this coming from a mile away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336873
because all male vtubers are gay ass homosexual uwu faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336873
because just fucking look at them, they all look like gay fetish bait and act like it too

[Anonymous No.]

Unicorns are going extinct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337066
HoloEN fans are going extinct

[Anonymous No.]

It's all going so well

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337066
keep telling yourself that, cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337020
Pardon? West loved hololive in 2020.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337066
I remember when people celebrated that 'all the unicorns committed suicide' after the Kronii stuff. Yet suddenly so many are alive again for this. Truly a Christmas miracle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336873
the model is a huge part of vtubing, if you don't like anime boys there's really no reason to watch male vtubers, I don't watch female streamers for example a girl having a model is what attracts me to her ''personality''

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>>40337232
The infamous "silent majority".

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337232
Unicorns are falseflaggers, the real target are normalfag fans who give a hard reflection look at their pathetic selves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337232
Or more like the normies are starting to see that the Unicorns might have had a point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336873
because you have been brainwashed by the spending your time around this particular community to think that male vtuber = bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337174
I love the Japanese, but for what it's worth Mori, Kiara, Amelia and Goobis are Western or European. They're easy for Westeners to vibe with. It's why Vespers the most popular homo.
Now the Japanese is soaking in hard and Westeners are like whoa whoa who the fuck is gabrbaba shinizippo? It's the West. Just call the vtuber Hank Hill.
Cover simply will not apply itself and it's hurting them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337407
cope post

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337407
that seems less likely than the other explanations

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337407
Watching Streamers is objectively = bad. These thots prey on losers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337232
cover is starting to piss off people that follow the ''don't like it don't watch it'' mentality, they can skip homo streams but they won't like if homos is all cover will release in years for EN viewers

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>>40337412
>Now the Japanese is soaking in hard and Westeners are like whoa whoa who the fuck is gabrbaba shinizippo? It's the West. Just call the vtuber Hank Hill.
ChatGPT bot go away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337097
wtf they're just like us

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337450
spend your time constantly in a community where every message reinforces that male vtubers are the devil and should be avoided at all costs and eventually you will come to think so too, why do you think people who mainly watch nijijp instead for example don't have trouble enjoying male vtubers? their community doesn't demonize them as being bad simply for existing

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>>40337487
Them giving Homos exposure reinforce the rrat that corporate funding is going into them instead of the girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337498
You know I'm right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
>cuckbeat getting mad at management for shilling homos instead of mori
mori is the original homo shiller

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337568
You know the guy could've just watched a stream and didn't like it, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337568
cope post

[Anonymous No.]

I called Cover HQ, they will release girls for EN 4

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337568
That's the point, Kuzuha and Nutaku are like the bro streamers that children and weebs like. Tempus are fujobait

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337620
when you spend your time in a community where every message around you is male is bad you are likely to find that when you go to watch a stream with a male you are predisposed to think it is bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334182
>homos are forced to hijack
They're not hijacking anything. Did you see OP's image? It's staff who are using it to promote the homos.

[Anonymous No.]

>noooo you HAVE to like the homos, the only reason you don't is because you're....brainwashed!!!
lmao the absolute state of these beggars

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337568
Why do you cucks always want everyone else to enjoy your cuck fetish? you're as bad as furries

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337568
>a community where every message reinforces that male vtubers are the devil and should be avoided at all costs
You didn't get the message at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333076
>people didn’t like tempus
>the subreddit was filled with nothing but tempus posts for like 4 months

ogey retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336995
Honestly I think it's the personality moreso than the looks that put me off. Think about the type of person who would become a male vtuber to begin with. Firstly they need to be a male anime fan or anime-adjacent, which already severely weakens the talent pool. But they also need to be unfunny and insecure enough that they couldn't hack it as a normal content creator. So you're left with people like VRchat creeps, anituber runoff and OSU players. Really not a good cross section of the population. It's no wonder they're worse on average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337683
The only one in the wrong here was the thot that preyed on weak male's delusions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337683
People can dislike stuff, you know? How can you say for certain that anon went to a male vtuber stream with the mentality he won't like it? If you can keep a open mind about them why is it that hard that someone else did the same but didn't end up liking them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337711
i don't care if you enjoy male vtubers i am just offering what seems like an obvious explanation, spend your time around people that keep telling you males are bad you are likely to think males are bad

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>>40336202
>Fire all of EN management. Fire ANY talent that obstructed or delayed Hololive EN3. Revenge at all cost.
something important that cover needs to learn is how to do this. it means NOT moving them to new positions in the company, especially not promoting them. it means "you do not have a job and you are not allowed inside the building".

[Anonymous No.]

unsubbed from holostarsen

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337097
>11h
It’s been 16 hrs since that post

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337800
We perfectly understood your point and I think Vesper guy is a good streamer. That said I come to the idol corporation for idol content not fujobait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337800
bullshit, everyone gave homostars a chance and they stabbed us in the face

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337683
This is a maximum straw man when vesper who was so embroiled in the kronii controversy and then got suspended basically got out of everything with such minimal dislike it's almost unbelievable how clean it was. Even though, you know, he's a male.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337800
it's only obvious in your HRT riddled brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337946
>everyone gave homostars a chance
Very strange, I only remember breakdowns and mindbreaks

[Anonymous No.]

remember when mumei asked management for aoe permissions and got denied then holostars comes along and gets permissions for aoe right away, there's clear favoritism going on

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338059
Oh yeah, let's forget their debut numbers and the ccv during their first couple of months. Nah, nobody gave them a chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336873
Because vtubing replaces anime, not movies or educational videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338101
aoe? If you mean Age of Empires the girls have been playing that from before Tempus was hinted at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338154
Flesh streamers are not educational or replacement for movies wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
This is what she gets for ruining the halloween collab with her shilling

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337232
I think most of the audience were mildly indifferent to Tempus. Didn't care to watch them, could easily ignore them. This is the first time that Tempus' existence is actively preventing discussion about the girls, and its the surest way to turn people who don't care about tempus into actively hating them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338101
ID was the ones that got the perms for aoe. Makes you wonder what the hell are even the point of en managment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338193
that was for ID though? unless im missing something

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337487
*watches the ENs that don't interact with your shitty homos as well as JPs*
Now what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337794
they can dislike stuff but what you like or dislike is influenced by the opinions of those around you regardless of if you think you are above that or not, and thus if you spend your time around a load of people that think males are evil you are likely going to be predisposed to think poorly of them, instead of going into it with excitement you are likely going into it with more of an aittitude along the lines of males are bad but i'll give them a chance i guess and that is going to color your interpretation of everything they do, everything they do is received just that bit more unkindly than it would be for a female because you are already predisposed to think there is something wrong about their mere existence and that they need to prove something

[Anonymous No.]

cant wait for it all to be exposed how management used the girls and never did anything for them.
All the homobeggar reddit and twitter fags will pretend they had no way of knowing and that they'd never support treating the girls like shit.
But you do know, you can see it happening, you're just a culture wars shitbag who wants a "win"

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338241
Well Kiara's played as well, but yeah ID was the one playing for a long time (looked it up Moona first streamed it Feb 2, 2022)

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337776
That's an unfair generalization. They don't need to be all that. All they could be is just men who wish they're anime boys. But you are right in that the male chuubas that we have today are weak slimy pieces of shit. More training and more scrutiny are needed from Cover, but also more aesthetic adjustments so that not all of them look like fujobait.

>>40337803
Agreed. Those responsible of this tomfuckery should be fired and blacklisted. Forced homo collabs and homostars2 are tone deaf moves that are dealing a major blow to the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338059
Really? I remember how shit was
Then:
>Altare: Wow this guy actually plays multiple streams of Enter the Gungeon and can actually make progress unlike certain holos
>Axel: Wow this guy actually put out music really fast and avoided shipping, he seems to understand the culture
>Vesper: Wow this guy's just like me fr fr
>Magni: Wow this guy is riding the meme wave pretty well

Now:
>Altare: Wow this guy actually got triggered by a dude in chat and went on a full scale meltdown
>Axel: Wow what the fuck was this guy thinking with the manager feeding shit
>Vesper: Wow this guy got fucking suspended
>Magni: Wow this guy collabs with radioactive twitch streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
>redditors complain about heavy handed mods
>come to 4chan
>fuck it up
>complain some more

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338264
If this conversation keeps going you'll end up reaching the character limit by repeating the exact same thing multiple times. Also everything you're saying is "likely", because you also spend your time in a place that hates male vtubers but ended up liking them, and guess what, I'm the same, but you still didn't explain why that anon couldn't be the same as us and just didn't found out their streams interesting. Why "not liking male vtubers" needs to be intrinsically attached to some likelihood influenced by the kind of communities he's in and not just because it wasn't for his tastes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338392
The board is not one person also naturally negative events are more memorable and emotional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338101
management are salty fat whores.
can spot it a mile away.
no wonder they hate real talents, and keep shilling garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331959
>Nowadays however no, they're forcing Nijisanjification on the whole branch and everyone needs to fucking put their foot down and say no.
If that was the case then vesper would have been allowed to do whatever. Instead they made it worse because they made it clear that being too interesting and calling out bad management isn't tolerated, only malexfemale collabs. HoloEN3 will be vetted for girls who want to collab with males, with a bias in their favor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338447
I accused males were going to take resources away from the girls and stand corrected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338392
So Tempus 1 ended up being bad, and now you're mad at Tempus 2 being released, even though you don't know them yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338553
I don't disagree with you but did you reply to the wrong post?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338554
You know they're going to be worse, especially with the designs suggesting they're gunning harder for the Luxiem audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338447
its mostly because he couched it in terms of "male vtubers" as a whole i think, i can understand saying you don't like specific male vtubers even all of tempus but if you have something against the entire gender of vtubers and find yourself unable to enjoy any male vtubers stream thats probably a you having an issue with male vtubers thing rather than an every single male vtuber is just uninteresting thing

[Anonymous No.]

It makes me feel a little bad for the new guys, it's not their fault that management is so fucking incompetent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338554
I'm sure the guy tweeting about licking his nipples and abs is actually going to be a cool brotuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338654
Vtubing brings less of an advantage towards males. There are plenty of regular popular male streamers who look terrible and/or are mocked excessively for their looks and they deal with it just fine. There are also plenty of regular popular male streamers are able to consistently play a role. It's females that need the crutch of vtubing, not males. So if you are a male vtuber you are probably a poor streamer, because you don't need vtubing if you are a good one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338703
I was just thinking the same. Debuting some homos doesn't stop them from debuting new girls. Debuting someone doesn't cost that much either. Wages for maybe some additional managers if the old ones are swamped and new models which aren't that expensive in the grand scale of things. I feel like they just haven't found decent girls recruit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
You know you fucked up when those fags of all people start complaining

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
Stop posting on reddit faggot

[Anonymous No.]

Go back, holoredditors.

[Anonymous No.]

Hello Anonymous Poster!
Your thread statement:
>Even leddit hates Homo now LMAO
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>Even the Hololive subreddit despises the HoloStars EN 2 members. LMAO XD

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[Anonymous No.]

Male vTubers have always been bad and always will be

[Anonymous No.]

but seriously - Why?
The only logical explanation I have is they already hired 8 men from the start but decided to split debuts

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338926
>Debuting someone doesn't cost that much either
YOU HAVE NO IDEA how much professional original designs and rigging costs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338703
I can see why ves snapped at them, just imagine working with the retarded management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338554
>Literal SP chuuba
>Faggot talking about ab and nipple licking
But surly it won't be bad on arrival right?

[Anonymous No.]

considering they are purposely locking their own subreddit to stop the backlash is it safe to say cover staff are posting here on /vt/, I've seen multiple threads that would make sense as marketing than a real thread like the threads that arent anything other than a homo replying to another homo on twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334975
>>As an anti-brigading measure, recently created accounts or low karma users are not currently permitted to participate in /r/hololive.
It is impressive that even with the full suite of corporate bootlicking measures being deployed that Cover still needed to lock the hololive subreddit.

>>40336438
Reddit is designed for astroturfing but management still has to remove any criticism of Tempus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339092
Half of tempiss got there designs from fiver so not much

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339075
No? They are probably hoping at least one of their males becomes the next vox, dosen't matter wheter the others fail or not. As long as one of them makes it big they win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338926
>I feel like they just haven't found decent girls recruit.
I refuse to believe this. Let's be honest, most of the current EN talents are average at best, it shouldn't be hard finding someone at least as good as them. I can think of two options instead:
>Somehow the entire focus of management during the past year was put on Tempus
>They are looking for particularly talented girls, their main goal is getting Myth 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338862
the idea that the reason for being a vtuber needs to be because you are ugly seems like a really normalfag take to me, its on the same kind of level as those guys that go hurr i bet its actually a dude with a voice changer, its really not just streamer with a cartoon instead of a person there is a whole culture around vtubers thats attractive to people in its own right thats entirely separate from flesh streamer culture

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338926
>I feel like they just haven't found decent girls recruit.
It's been a whole year. Do you seriously believe that in 12 months they weren't able to find 5 girls for EN3 but were able to find 8 guys for StarsEN? It's been so fucking long there might be a girl having her own Nene arc of sending her auditions 3 or 4 times before Cover notices her. Just accept that Cover just isn't interested in debuting EN3 right now, as for why only god knows.

>>40339092
And they still paid for 8 guys. But according to a bunch of retards in this place it still costs nothing for Cover to do it, so what's the truth here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339175
kek I think Ina alone charges $2000 just for an original character sheet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339092
>how much professional original designs and rigging costs
At the very most it's about 20k. Holo models? It's going to be a couple thousands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336171
>Yet when it comes to actually watching streams and showing up they're nowhere to be seen
yeah emember that saving aki arc? or the homobeggars pre gen5/myth era but nowhere to be seen when fbk and matsuri collabs with stars?
imagine claiming to be X fan judging from the badges but not even bothered to watch majority of the clips thats lower than clipniggers in this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339218
The truth is the public prices on the artists page. They go over a grand minimum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339224
Yeah but who cares about Ina? When there are indie artist out there who are just as good or better at this point its an overly saturated market hell even AI can turn out a decent design for free now and days

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339224
makes sense considering she doesnt do work for individuals, only companies

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339262
Naive to think antis wouldn't go around pretending to be fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339330
Neuro go back to your general

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339367
Assimilation is coming...

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339355
Homos leech funding away from the girls, this is no rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339262
>yeah emember that saving aki arc?
That one worked well enough until they got bored of her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339092
How much is it then, I'd like sources too since I'm interested in it? I know nothing of rigging, but no one will pay more than 5-8k for a model. Prob less considering homo artists are small-timers. Considering how much Cover gets from investors and all their cuts it's peanuts. I doubt the rigging will be too expensive either, doubt that 4 homo models will cost them more than 25K. 25k is nothing for cover. And I'm taking everything any talent says with a grain of salt after Gura's "200K" cover comment.
>>40339224
Ina is unironically bigger than most if not all homo illustrators. Ofc she charges more.

[Anonymous No.]

I want cute anime girls, is that too much to ask for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336171
>>Yet when it comes to actually watching streams and showing up they're nowhere to be seen.
Tempus is the most successful Stars generation so far and gets more views than even Myth members like Kiara or Mori

Of course they are expanding it while they can, the old EN audience is bored and is leaving

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338926
>Debuting some homos doesn't stop them from debuting new girls
Costs aside, the stubbornness about trying to "not spam like Niji" has also delayed new EN girls for a while, even though historically any new JP homo debuts have not stopped ID/JP female debuts from also happening only mere weeks after. It says volumes about how they treat the EN homos: essentially part of the main branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337020
If anything EN management has too much free reign. I started watching hololive -because- it was japanese, not for it to become "twitch streamers with an avatar". You wouldn't see cover do this shit to JP audiences, it's not a "japanese way of doing things"

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339209
It's not necessarily about being ugly so much as that for a guy, culturally there needs to be a believable reason why you care so much about your looks. A vtuber model isn't something like choosing to wear a suit jacket instead of a t-shirt or something trivial, it's literally a complete makeover with a lot of implicit baggage attached in the form of lore and remaking yourself. The first instinct for a guy doing that is insecurity, which can be considered cute in girls, but not so much in dudes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339224
*Korone recolor

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339505
or maybe they just like vtubers and the culture around it, got inspired by vtubers to start streaming and want to become one like them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339533
That's Sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336951
Man that is really fucked up, they really need to get off that subreddit then and just make their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339569
Sana is pink korone recolor, Ina is black Korone recolor

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339430
Doesn't matter your superchats are going into producing fujoshit for an audience that despise you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331714
They sound just like jannies and their lackeys on this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339471
>Old EN audiance is board and leaving
Not
>Leaving do to homostars
And unironically EN did better than JP as a whole its almost like there is a language barrier or something.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339657
I wouldnt be surprised if they are the same people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339471
>Fills the place with worthless faggots that nobody wanted, fundamentally changing hololive
>All the old fans are leaving by pure coincidence, we should get more faggots!
Kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337487
But I just want to grill?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337357
Carlos...?

[Anonymous No.]

At this point the difference of content and culture between the JP and EN branches is so big that I have lost all my interest in an eventual EN3. Sure, it will probably debut in a few months, and then what? Are we going to get concerts? 3D lives? special events? constant collabs? more zatsudans? karaokes?

No, everything will stay the same. I just don't care anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339563
I'm just explaining why male vtubers set off red flags for many male viewers on an instinctual level. Because the main advantage of the model, as the other poster said, is looks, but the presence of this advantage is often so overt that it implies some need or desire for it, which sticks out like a sore thumb for males versus females due to cultural context. Whether the person doing it is actually insecure about their real looks is irrelevant (unless they sperge out in a stream and make it known to everyone).
Something like Peanuts-kun might actually work better for vtubing, because no one (probably) looks worse than Peanuts-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339471
>gets more views than even Myth members like Kiara or Mori
proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339825
>between the JP and EN branches
You missed the biggest HoloJP/Stars collab in the history of Hololive just a couple days ago, it was a great success. HoloJPs were even saying they want to do more collabs, and HoloJP no longer stream over Stars event streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339899
Next thread

[Anonymous No.]

It's actually insane how many shill defenders have been dispatched to 4chan. They've clearly seen it as a problem since the gen 1 flop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333331
this but with ENs

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339909
Oh no, he became completely delusional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339909
>Four songs on a stream that was primarily girls
>Numbers didn't drop because no one could care enough to do more than mute stream or get up to go piss
>Immediately went back to all girls afterward
Ive blocked all the holos that interact with homostars I literally do not care about Sora nor Fubuki or anyone else trying to saviorfag them any actual holo that does so goes in the trash with the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339986
They did the same for homosEN1, the astroturfing was off the charts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340098
>goalposts moving at lightning speed

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339986
This is nothing compared to August.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339909
I actually don't mind the homos, and I think some of the JP ones are pretty cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339874
is this process of thought peculiar to western males? i just find it hard to parse it as a universal thing when you have someone like kuzuha in japan with a 70% male audience despite having an ostensibly bishonen male model

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338862
Never thought of it that way but it makes a lot of sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340136
Yeah, most people don't mind them and even like some of them. There's just an established anti-Stars unicorn brigade that's taken over the discourse and raids all discussion about them on every possible site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340124
Its not at all you refused to actual give context on "Biggest faggot collab ever" since it fucking destroys the narrative your trying to push you disengenious faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340124
always sora fbk and matsuri.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336171
>Where is everyone?
The homo paradox

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339909
lmao you are so full of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340149
I think of him as generic Tokyo Ghoul protag rather than bishonen. He doesn't have yaoi shoulders or godzilla height.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340217
I don't watch Matsuri because she is unironically a shitty person but both Sora and Fubuki still push the "We are idols" garbage despite trying to uplift the faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>40332886
But they can't epicly own the incels there! They have to shove themselves into everything or else the incels win!

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339909
By holo jps you mean susei. But mentioning it's her hurts your narrative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340336
This is like saying EN is just fine because Gura isn't collabing with males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340282
FBK and Sora have managerial positions. Stop time looping faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339909
>You missed the biggest HoloJP/Stars collab in the history of Hololive just a couple days ago, it was a great success.
One segment hamfisted into both countdowns
>HoloJPs were even saying they want to do more collabs
Just Suisei, who already collabed with homos to begin with
>and HoloJP no longer stream over Stars event streams.
Cover is shit, more at 11

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340196
That's also the main reason why it's practically impossible criticize the EN management outside here without everyone and their mother accusing you of being an unicorn.

>There's nothing wrong about holoEN getting more homos, but couldn't they have waited until getting the girls sorted out? Council debuted 16 months ago and the past year has been fucking rough for everyone, they need new blood ASAP or at least someone from management to step forward and give them some guidance
>THEY DON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340245
Their next strategy will likely be botting, like what was exposed in the Twitter files.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340374
Are you being purposely retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340400
>This is an excuse
It not now fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340470
Yes FBK is a thot. I don't mind if we killed her career either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340282
>I don't watch Matsuri because she is unironically a shitty person
I unironically watch her because unironically menhera girls get me unironically hard. And ZA HANDO incident was hilarious and I don't want to miss the next drama.

[Anonymous No.]

So when HoloHomos Gen 2 fails, what is EN management going to do? Just keep debuting men until it works?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340545
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340545
They are following the NijiEN model, the next gen will be mixed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340149
For Japanese males? Articles touching on 'herbivore males' always make a huge deal about their obsession for grooming. Host clubs have huge billboards with guys who obviously take great personal care for their appearance with lots of hair gel and weird hair colors. Mafumafu looks like a fucking alien. Japanese have no problem with artificiality.
In contrast, in the West the idea of being natural is paramount. It's supposed to look effortless, like you just rolled out of bed and walked out onto the street looking perfect.
In a way it's sort of like how Japan fucking loves really shitty CGI that would get you fired from a studio in the US.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340545
EN3 will certainly collab with tempus and just like that the holo brand becomes meaningless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334128
If a debut meets the same amount of animosity as a graduation/termination, that should really reflect on how much EN is fucking up. Good thing I only care about JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334318
>>40334352
>>40335156
>whenever a big announcement
reading comp reps, that includes HoloX and Tempus 1

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339909
>it was a great success
Yeah, definitely not because of the homos

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340545
Yes. EN management will crash the entire branch into the ground without ever realising that maybe the people behind the wheel (them) had something to do with the terrible outcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340420
I'm more willing to believe that it was falseflaggers pretending to be unicorns and then acted out very loudly just to make criticism impossible.
At the same time I doubt my own theory because of some of the insane shit unicorns actually say and believe. (Unless they're all falseflaggers too, then they're doing a damn good job at it.)
Perfect example: Gabe

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340520
Next time just say you"re a coomer and save your poor keyboard a beating from those glazed knuckles anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340576
Why are they following Niji when HoloJP is such a success?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340519
t. falseflagging stars fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340545
>>40340576
>>40340603
>they think there's going to be any girls debuted any time soon.
Try 2024.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340545
realistically they'll just continue ripping pages out of Niji's playbook and make new generations of EN vtubers half female half male. You'll be forced to care about your new waifu's male genmates then

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334247
this shit is why i use OKBH

[Anonymous No.]

>>40339133
You're mad a talent speaks Spanish?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340196
Most people didn't mind them. But that's a past
They were willing to ignore them and just watch girls.
But even their patience runs out after this happens when people are waiting for EN3 FOR MONTHS!

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333735
The ones that already collabed with them will collab with them, that ship has already sailed.
The others just need to politely decline, or disappear like Gura for several months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340677
I want the entirety of HoloJP to succumb as well. Thots taking money from autists only to backstab them in the back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340545
They probably have dispatched the word to Western assets with fair-weathered fans AKA activists, and will use bot farms to keep it going. Depending on the investment they could even pay 3rd worlders to live view. Considering they're doubling-down, this isn't unbelievable, because they're either doing something like this or are literally killing the company. I don't think they're that dumb, despite what everyone likes to fantasize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340678
>They wanted their own Vox
>Most of the EN talents love to talk about how much they don't like idol culture

[Anonymous No.]

Tempus has 3 dudes who don’t speak a lick of Japanese and the EN girl collabs were clearly halted whether people liked them or not. They have a bigger group to work with on projects and such is the silver lining I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340678
because they're activists

[Anonymous No.]

>>40332886
It's the same reason nijifags shill their livers on the hololive sub. Their sub is dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40336873
Because the truth is that vtubers aren't as entertaining as flesh streamers (not the whore kind) and that their cuteness makes up for their lack of quality, however with boys they're true quality is shown since your brain can't ignore it due to you not being a fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340708
>OKBH
just as big of bootlickers/homobeggars as the main sub but they pretend to be ironic about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>40334504
This.
Hololive made me realise it was possible for a woman to be funny and endearing beyond wanting to fuck them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333299
>about as passive aggressive as a high school girl
Oh nonononono we got called out sisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340849
The other issue that provides a hetero crossover is they're banned from talking about anything you banter with men about, other than sports. Are there even any sports fans in all of the homos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340696
Mixed waves are the worst of both worlds, by doing a compromise like that you are giving neither party what they really want and ensuring neither the males or the females will reach their full potential. NijiEN has already proven that no matter how hard you force it the people who watch female vtubers for the most part don't care about the male vtubers and the people who watch male vtubers for the most part don't care about the female vtubers. After what a year+ of them mixing genders still if you check the chat statistics for the NijiEN girls they often have more viewers in common with HoloEN girls than they do with NijiEN males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340945
prevents*

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340846
Do they actually do that? They gate hololive but shill there? That's some jew behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340919
And then they shit on you but still take your superchat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340696
It's so tiresome

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
If it wasn't for the heavy-handed moderation leddit would be the same as here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340321
>The best way to own those hateful, woman hating incels is by undermining female entertainers and virtue signaling for male streamers!
Gotta love this clown world we live in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341164
The one thing feminists hate more than men are women that men like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
They can still fix this, literally just announce EN3

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341226
>The one thing trannies hate more than men are women that men like.
ftfy

[Anonymous No.]

Holostars EN and Hololive EN have different managements so expecting to have stars delay their debuts until Hololive finally gets a new gen seems really unfair

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340696
More like I'll be forced to stop watching

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340919
No, you just want to fuck the anime girl. Women have never and will never be funny other than incidentally being amusing due to how retarded they are

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341226
>>40341263
You're both right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
>he goes to reddit
>he cares what the fats think or have to say
Might as well move there you massive fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341274
Maybe they shouldn't have tried to push the two together so much and do things like completely locking down their subreddit if they don't want people to complain

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341148
There used to be decent subreddits, with topics that resembled the good Twitter threads, frequented by the old mods, back in the day. It's been purged so very thoroughly now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341364
a phoneposter telling someone to go back to r*ddit roru

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341049
If a niji makes a reference to a holo on stream or replies to a holo tweet they post that shit on the holo sub to shill. It got so bad T chan started to nuke those threads up until a few months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341148
Funny, /vt/ itself has probably the most heavy-handed moderation on the site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341483
and it still manages to be one of the lowest quality boards!

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341274
then where IS EN3? Why is T3mpus a thing? Why try to make holoPro happen?
it's not unreasonable to think holoEN resources went to the boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
>unicuks are redditors
I knew it

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341541
I said heavy-handed, not logical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341483
True. I got banned for RACISM when referring to a nijifag. I shit you not...

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340966
>After what a year+ of them mixing genders still if you check the chat statistics for the NijiEN girls they often have more viewers in common with HoloEN girls than they do with NijiEN males.
Actually checking this its true
Pomu MGS stream
https://vrabi.net/video/n-QQq44wYZk
Fauna, IRyS, Mori, Mumei, Bae, Kiara, Ame, Gura, Kronii all have higher percentages of overlapping chatters than any NijiEN male
Elira Persona stream
https://vrabi.net/video/m6Tns6riNUo
Bae, Mori, Fauna, IRyS, Mumei, Kronii all have higher percentages of overlapping chatters than any NijiEN male.
Selen Assassin's Creed stream
https://vrabi.net/video/Z_X_fXYs8Cs
Fauna, IryS, Bae, Mumei all have higher percentages of overlapping chatters than any NijiEN male

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341483
It's baffling how easily they ban

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337568
Nobody likes male characters in an anime unless they are retarded and funny, a blank self-insert, or absurdly masculine.
A male vtuber has the further disadvantage that fleshstreaming is the least respectable job for a man to have, doing so with a anime avatar is a step below even that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341619
I made a double entendre joke and was banned for "trolling" from all boards. NO JOKES ALLOWED BY ORDER OF THE JANNY COMMISSAR

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341541
it's because of the mods it's so bad, same with /v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340966
>people who watch female vtubers for the most part don't care about the male vtubers and the people who watch male vtubers for the most part don't care about the female vtubers
Yes? A mixed wave gave three men and three women to their respective male and female audiences. So now it's just three members instead of four or five to digest over four or so months. It couldn't be helped that iLuna was the way it was, Maria streaming during much later hours for NA, Aia being a train wreck, or how scatter brained Scarle is. Then you have Aster that is just kinda there, Ren that doesn't stream often, then Kyo the only one that rose up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341541
10+ years on this site and I've never been banned except for on this board. It's so ridiculously inconsistent too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337683
I clicked on a Male Vtuber stream once and was greeted by a faggot voice, that was enough for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341924
>then Kyo the only one that rose up
And he leeched his way to the top.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341541
Because the mods here, ar least during SEA hours, are extremely biased and only ban what they personally feel offended by, that's unironically one of the main reasons. That pisses off casual shitposters that maybe make a rude remark rarely or take a jab at someone. If you just ignore casual shitposts , then they get it off their chest and proceed to post normally. Instead they get pissed and start ban evading and posting more egregious shit which tourists and kids (very large chunk of whose are the same people from the subreddit, they talk about this board constantly there from what screenshots I've seen) eat up like honey and start spamming alongside pissed shitposters to fit in. They try to fit in, because they're used to be the part of the hivemind and having a different opinion + being made fun of by shitters gets to them. Over time these retards start believing everything they're parroting and it spirals from there. At least half of what this hoard is is to be blamed on some of the mods here. NA timeslot seems okay-ish, but whatever SEAmod is doing just ruins everything. That guy leaves up people discussing on how to harass soneone or RM shit while banning any slights against streamers he personally likes. Good unbiased mods would fix a lot, but it's too late so it's whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341924
The problem with mixing them is you can't be a fan of the group if you only like males or females. You get people that love Lazulight, or love Luxiem but when you actually don't give a fuck about half the group at all you can't say you love Iluna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338554
If you create something bad, you don't follow it up with a sequel released in record time. They didn't even try to make a new name for them and have attached it to the tempus name and all the illwill it entails.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40342078
I don't like everyone in every generation or wave, even if they're all the same gender. No one is forced to like everyone.

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>>40342035
fucking faggot has banned me from ALL BOARDS multiple times for the most inane shit. Basically anything negative about SEA and he is on your ass immediately, while SEA threadshitters fill my split with diarrhea for hours and make it unusable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40342035
Look at how long deadbeat janny was allowed to go on banning people simply for calling deadbeats cucks, SEAmod will be with us for a long time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337568
>>40341731
Male vtubers themselves were never an issue. The reason so many people are ambivalent towards the homos is:
1. They were shoved down the throats of an audience that wasn't receptive to them to an insane degree
2. They (from an outsider perspective) seemingly just came in and ruined the group dynamic of Hololive EN. If I had to make a comparison, they were kind of like the Yoko Ono to Myth's Beatles. They might not have been directly responsible for Myth seemingly starting to drift apart, but the timing makes them appear very suspect. This also has to do with how an all female group is going to naturally have different chemistry from a mixed group. Myth was a streamer group that was very uniquely entirely female, something which is shockingly rare for English centric streamers and gave them a strong niche.
3. Tempus just aren't particularly talented or interesting streamers. Their selling point is the fact that they are male, as opposed to Hololive EN where each member has traditionally had some skill or talent at the forefront.

Had Tempus been isolated, marketed at a more interested audience, and had a more selective hiring process, people wouldn't be having these discussions. Hell, even if it they had simply been kept on their Homo island people probably wouldn't care.

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>>40342226
You're right nobody is forced to like everyone. I was never arguing they were. But the fact is that there are lots of people that do love entire groups and by mixing genders you are making that far less likely.

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>>40331645
>coming up on 18 hours of forced positivity lockdown
Says a whole lot about their their confidence in what they are doing that they preemptively lock the "main" official platform for discussion at a time when you would EXPECT them to want as much activity hyping up their new gen as possible. I guess silencing the people who are going to call out EN management for being incompetent (a minority on reddit let's be honest) is more important than letting genuine stars fans discuss the homos or advertising Moris song in 6 hours or putting up a pinned post for Ame's birthday.

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>>40342300
>Had Tempus been isolated, marketed at a more interested audience
Just imagine, hololive was well known for being targeted at males and being popular as a result, it would have been so easy to market them as "hololive but for girls" and put them in their own bubble where they go after fujos and kpop stans or whoever. Instead they had to set them at odds with the fans that actually liked hololive how it was pre-tempiss with the retarded "brotuber" shit that nobody likes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40340696
All it does is save people time to not watch in the first place. Notice the low numbers mixed gens get

[Anonymous No.]

>>40335433
What's worse is watching avatar streamers play games poorly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40342568
Hololive has a decently strong female following already too, so using that to leverage an EN branch aimed at catering towards fujos and the like wouldn't be that difficult.
Again, there was no reason to try to mix the audiences of the two branches in the way they did. No reason aside from typical globo homo reasons anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40342676
There are a lot of concessions made for girls because they're cute. Males had better be ex-tourney players if they want a male audience.

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>>40341313
Nah, if that was the case I'd rub one out to an anime girl, or hire a hooker to cosplay as one. But in my twenties I had become disgusted in women and their whorish ways, and no longer had any desire to trick them into fucking me.
I legitimately learned that I can appreciate a woman's company, and if that is because she is trying to keep a persona is irrelevant as long as they keep it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40342913
Take the neuro sama pill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40342906
That's true. When I go on twitch I only watch people playing in top 100 of the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40343014
She ain't even learn shit, she just says random stuff. It's fun as a gimmick for a few watches. Her TTS does have a pleasant voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>40343014
>ran by a hyper sjw
>loli is banned in chat
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331645
I feel sad for the EN girls but maybe homospam is what the company really needed to wake some people up.

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>>40342881
>Again, there was no reason to try to mix the audiences of the two branches in the way they did.
I think it made sense in theory, they had an established mostly male audience so they tried to get male vtubers that guys would enjoy as well to capitalize off their existing audience. The problem is that there are different types of male viewers and the majority of holo simps who fawn over CGDCT content don't actually want to watch "brotuber" content so the overlap they were expecting didn't actually exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40343014
Good only in clips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40343014
If my Holo oshi manages to disappoint me I just might do that. I still have a bit of hope

[Anonymous No.]

I ventured into the depths for this

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>>40339430
200k for a cover of a queen song that was provided to a weird non-entity nip manager by the rights holder sounds about right