/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Okay but what is actually the gameplan in this thing they're doing by considering them "part of Tempus" instead of just giving it a new name? In the end it's not going to change anything because people will differentiate them by calling them "Tempus Gen 1" and "Tempus Gen 2" so I don't really get the logic in just using the same name? Like, they already have a "large group name". It's Holostars. I don't understand the long-term strategy in calling all Holostars EN members "Tempus." Instead of, you know, StarsEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
>Lore
>Tempus is considered a guild in lore
>Instead of debuting a new guild,or villains, or just something not related, they debut new people that joined the guild
>Thus the concept of Tempus does not get overshadowed, it only grows larger with each new gen (recruit)

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304527
It's not going to stop people from calling them starsen2

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304527
This also adds another sense of unity in that they're all a guild together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304646
>forced unity.
That sure has helped the previous gens so well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304609
Retards say this but nobody calls Myth and Council EN1 and EN2. Omega won.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304741
It has helped the first four tempus boys pretty well when they were forced to get to know each other 3 months prior to debut or face being replaced.
Captures Yagoos vision of wanting a tight-knit group pretty well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304775
??? Evryone is calling them that. Even girls themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
Tempus is enlargening and there is nothing any of you can do about it

[Anonymous No.]

I'm so very done with holoEN, my oshis dont stream and instead of new girls we get new guys - if I wanna watch a guy i watch sovietwomble or tomatogaming, get fucked cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304962
I watch both tamtoe and Tempus so..

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304962
Watch Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>40305048
Eww no thank you. I don't have THAT bad of taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40305048
I'll watch VShojo before I watch Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
>why even try anymore at this point just say it's more tempus

[Anonymous No.]

>>40305539
>>40305626
LMAO the seething at Kiara despite her being one of the only actual good streamers in Hololive, never fails to amaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304741
>forced unity
only forced if it's between women

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
basically two of these guys (its unclear which two) were supposed to originally be part of the first group of tempus and clover decide to have two groups of four instead of one group of 6

[Anonymous No.]

>>40307546
It's pretty clear. Gavis and Machina went on an expedition to Xenokuni in search for the new recruits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40307546
Who the hell is Clover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
It promotes unity. Rather than the successful Myth and the flopped Council, they're all Tempus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40310488
I bet Clover regrets not having this idea for IRyS. It's not like she would have been out of place in Myth, she has the whole mythical creature thing going on. But instead everyone either forgets she exists or awkwardly tries to force her together with Council.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
Its TempUS and TempES

[Anonymous No.]

>>40307546
Yeah I guess they didn't want to make it too obvious they were copying Nijisanji with the six member thing so it makes sense they'd cut it down to four.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40310621
People who awkwardly try to force her with Myth are the biggest retards and I don't know how they are still coping this hard after all these years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40310891
I couldn't give a fuck, but I'm sure Cover regrets it because it killed her numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
It’s literally lore. Like unironically with this tempus is now the most friendly to cross media creation then any other in hololive.
They can essentially create a show based on the lore setting and not have to explain why a demon, whatever Miyabi truly is, and pizza papa all share the same universe with cat boy mafia from another world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40311021
I sincerely doubt Hololive will ever have its own anime. Alternative is like the definition of vaporware, a couple trailers and then quietly swept under the rug and forgotten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40311179
Doesn’t matter if it’a likely or not, it’s always better to have prep work done before hand then rush it.
Besides it’s fun.

[Anonymous No.]

These designs kinda mog Altare and them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304874
>IF I SAY IT ON THE INTERNET IT'S TRUE ! !

[Anonymous No.]

>>40311718
Wait till we actually see what the models look like. Magni looked good in his official art then horrendous in the model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
The biggest revelation is that they hired 8 (EIGHT) men, while they only hired women in groups of 5, which included nepo hires. I fucking hate nijis but if your standards were low enough to hire 8 men, then you could have snagged some girls who would at least be better than Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40312035
No where did anyone think that Magni looked good here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40305009
Based

[Anonymous No.]

They have much better designs than first Tempus and possibly having a BFE or fujo pandering tuber in there? Gavis model seems to be like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
I dunno how to feel about this...
They don't have the same kinda visual impact as tempus, and we've only just barely had tempus for a short time feels too soon I just want more time with our current boys before we get new people.....
I'm scared of change....

[Anonymous No.]

>>40311718
nvm, not all of 'em
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>40312114
That's his model. Not the official art. READ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40312674
>transparent bodysuit
>can't see his penis
This means he has no penis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40312674
>>40312879
After looking through all of them, this one is the only one with a good model. The other ones are disappointing compared to the official art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40312674
>bodysuit with high-socks
The full-body streams are gonna distracting as hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40313245
Also I'm praying his coat is removable. God, this is hornier than most indie vtuber designs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
>In the end it's not going to change anything
EN management doesn't understand that 'Gens' are good because they keep things organized. No one in the west cared about the idol aspect of 'generations' only its organizational. If they didnt like the name 'gen's they couldve went with teams/waves/squads etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>40312114
Magni actually looks 10/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>40314387
10/10 design, 0/10 execution

[Anonymous No.]

>>40314325
This does actually leave them an opening to do that if they end up reconsidering, then they could retroactively name them things like "Tempus (Cool Word) Team", "Tempus (Other Cool Word) Squad".

[Anonymous No.]

The only good thing to come out of this wave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40314387
He looks like an alien in the bottom right corner too what the hell are you smoking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40314457
Truly, he is the Fubuki of Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40310371
Fauna's cat. She's behind it all anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
Looks like NijiEN trash kind of models. Has Merryweather now also stained Hololive with shitty design decisions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40316985
He IS Merryweather, dude.

[Anonymous No.]

Who even watches these people? I understand nijiEN pandering to fujos but who the fuck even watches these two bit twitch knock offs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40316985
>>40317132
Who the fuck is Merryweather? another gacha artist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40317388
Nordic VTuber, he secretly controls both companies behind the scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304741
theyll keep doing it until it works

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
Easy. So they “don’t piss off the fans by releasing a second male gen before EN gen 3”
They think we’re actually that retarded.
Oh, it’s not a new gen! Haha! Well guess it’s cool then! Thanks, Omega!

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
en management need something different something came out from their brilliant super genius ideas brain that is not following niji like at all

[Anonymous No.]

Wait they already announced new members? Where's the sticky?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40318759
Mods are Holocorns and don't sticky anything about males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
Why the fuck do they all look like shitty PSO2 OCs

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304741
Men actually form bonds via being in a team together, women instinctively hate and backstab eachother

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
Simple. No collab ban with the rest of the tempus since they're the same gen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40323917
Can you actually get that rice field hat in PSO2? Might have to pick it up if so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40324779
You say that but Cover is so incompetent that I can totally still see them enforcing the one month collab ban. I wonder if they're also gonna make them do the 1 hour streams again too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40318623
I feel like part of the blame is on this 'culture' that has each side fooling the other
>girls act retarded (partially because its cuter, partially because they just aren't that smart)
>fans act retarded to play along and encourage the cute behavior
>girls and management genuinely buy into the act and get shocked when backlash hits

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304741
Women are incapable of unity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304741
Holopro unity seems fine so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304775
People do say EN2 sometimes, but Council serves as a perfectly adequate identifier. If this group has nothing whatsoever, people will resort to calling them Tempus 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40325111
>partially because they just aren't that smart
Gee is it any wonder that the streamers hate their fanbase when they say stuff like this. No wonder they're trying to appeal to women instead.

[Anonymous No.]

Unsure.
Part of me suspects that Cover picked eight guys out initially as those they wanted.
But didn't want to push out eight at once.
So they went "aight. Four of you are debuting in six months or so"

[Anonymous No.]

>>40311179
Only because Mizuryu Kei had a spergout when they told him he would have to stop drawing Holo porn

[Anonymous No.]

>>40325352
That depends entirely on if the new four all turn out to be people who graduated over six months ago. If they're more recent, that theory is dead in the water.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40325327
The fanbase doesn't say stuff like this except in places like here. Instead they publicly applaud them in comments for solving puzzles in half an hour that should have taken five minutes, and the streamers know it. No wonder they think their fanbases are simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40325426
If they knew they were debuting for 6 months they wouldn't graduate, they would keep doing whatever they were doing so they could keep earning a living.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40325426
Well I could see them going "you can keep up your usual activities until a later point. But nothing beyond this future date"
We dont know when Covers salary kicks in after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40311718
They're definitely much more overtly pandering to women. Altare just looks like a generic isekai hero who isn't really yumebait.
Vesper could be the long haired ikemen stereotype, but he honestly just looks like a somewhat generic vampire / Alucard type.
Magni... is honestly a cool and intricate design, the problem lies in the artstyle and the way his face is drawn / proportioned, which is what actually makes him ugly.
Axel's the only one whos actually just as overtly yumebait as the new guys are.

Their designs might be a buff, they might be a debuff, but they're not neccessarily better or worse. They just went in a different direction than what gen 1 did, which was more just general animu fantasy rather than full on ikemen ultra bishie types.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40324921
Yeah they added like 3 of them in NGS. Worthwhile to checkout, especially since it's free, and all of Tempus gives off PSO2 fashion vibes to be completely fair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304527
They were already in the guild. Regis confirmed it.

[Anonymous No.]

Now that we’ve had a little bit to let this whole thing settle in…
I still think this was an absolutely fucking terrible idea. Threw your successful vtuber branch in the trash and shat on your fans so that you could MAYBE get some of Vox’s fujo money crumbs.

lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>40326769
Myth threw itself in the trash. Nobody's streaming anymore. I see a lot of people coping but let's be realistic here, what exactly are we fucking losing? NONE of them stream. Meanwhile Tempus streams all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
New ones already?

[Anonymous No.]

These models look atleast alot better than the 4 other tempus ones. 3/4 are femboi fujo bait I don't mind that as much as fuckbois leeching off the girls and flirting with them on screen

[Anonymous No.]

To be honest I think having the whole EN Holosta be some sort of adventurers guild RP where they just add new members to Tempus instead of a different group name is quite cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
Well if you read between the lines of what Altare said "Tempus" had 6 members (possibly after auditions ended) he then gave some gay lore saying he had to send 2 of them to find more friends/members!! (Possibly cover didn't have the other 2 recruited in time hence they released Tempus 1 before the full squad) he also said he has known about them for a while so that reinforces my rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40327188
its different for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40327541
So cover had six approved candidates.
Didn't want to push out six at once because six tends to go badly for them.
So it was decided to hold back on two of them (who probably had some other shit ongoing they could keep up) while they found more members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40327631
>six tends to go badly for them.
When have they ever done six? The maximum has been five.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40327839
Gen 1 for both live and stars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40328088
And how did that go badly exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40307546
That makes a lot of sense honestly. Would explain how quickly they were able to turn around for the next gen. I wonder how long they've been talking in discord with the current gen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40312035
They've already posted short videos with the model. It seems like Cover learned their lesson with Tempus 1. They all look a lot better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40307658
no one cares about lore

[Anonymous No.]

>>40328807
That still means they hired half a male gen over debuting a new girl gen. Unicorn have been thoroughly abused in the last months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40325426
There was always 8 chairs at the tempus table so I couldn’t imagine them waiting much longer for tempus part 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>40328862
Tempus 1 was the test gen to see if they could support Holostars with satisfactory returns and carry themselves solely on personality.
I expect gen2 to be weaker, but now they have more ostentatious designs to soak up all the fujo bucks, while still trying to be relatable guys. We'll see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40330407
That's actually pretty smart, they made a point of not investing too much money into Tempus just in case it didn't go well and it still turned a pretty good profit for them. No wonder they're bringing in more of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40328336
Gen 1 live lost a member within a month of debut due to contract violations.
Gen 1 stars lost two members. I think one lasted about a year and the other less than a year. One of them left because his psychological health went in the utter shitter because of his time in stars.

Since then we haven't seen Cover ever do more than five in a gen.
In general Cover has avoided 4 and seems to avoid 4 whenever it can. Preferring 3 or 5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40330547
It's retarded, fujos won't watch avatars and brotubers find the tempiss designs gay, they are a product for no audience. What they had to do was debut stars silently in their own channels, ABSOLUTELY NO COLLABS WITH THE GIRLS and have debuted EN3 and 4 by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
So they can say "well there's really only one stars en gen technically so this makes sense" when they release stars en 2 in a few months

[Anonymous No.]

>>40332244
Yeah you're living in denial and coping because things you don't like are actually extremely popular. Not worth wasting any more time on you though so I'll just wrap up with this: Seethe, unicorn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40331940
This is because 4 is considered an unlucky number in Japan because it has the same pronunciation as "shi", the Japanese word for death. It's like the Japanese equivalent to the American number 13. I'm not sure if Cover decided the bad luck didn't apply to Tempus since they're not Japanese, or if they were intentionally trying to sabotage Tempus and make them fail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40332336
Oh, I hope that happens. Not just two, but THREE male gens in a row. It would finally kill this shit board once and for all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
>>40304437
Bros so auditions are over? Or still going? It's not even a month since the announcement in December 17 or Holo scout criteria has down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40332639
>things you don't like are actually extremely popular
Are they? We can objectively check their numbers on playboard

[Anonymous No.]

>>40332967
Hololive has open auditions, you can apply at any time and they might pick you for the next gen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40332759
My theory is they had 6 people they wanted but didn't want to support six or exile one guy to wait it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333083
So it means never, likely, I doubt they put you in some kind of queue of potential candidates for next wave

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333022
>muh numbers numbers!!
Mindbroken, just stay silent and watch your "pure" girls streaming, oh wait, they dont stream lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
To purge the Hololive fandom of incels

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333491
No, I don't think it's a queue, I think it's that if they decide you're Hololive material, they contact you to let you know you've been selected and begin preparing things for you. Then once it's time to debut a new gen, you're one of the members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333947
You can say the purely good at not streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>40332759
Clearly, they failed if it was the latter

[Anonymous No.]

>>40332244
omg look a vtubing expert

[Anonymous No.]

Brain damage is the plan. They didn't think this through at all. People are pissed they sidelined the main attraction to keep hiring men. Who knows why they did it.
My speculation is that almost all of the women who were applying that had even a remote chance at being selected had retarded twitter takes 24/7 and were seen to be trend jumpers when they looked into them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337999
Myth were trend jumpers, Kronii had retarded twitter takes. That didn't stop them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40338165
>Myth were trend jumpers.
>2 of them were vtubers prior
>One of them was a long time Hololive fan
Tell me more

[Anonymous No.]

>>40337999
>People are pissed
Just cause you keep saying this doesn't make it true. It's funny watching you guys discover you're a minority and people don't give a fuck about your unicorn bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40341055
Unicorns have nothing to do with it. People wanted cute anime women streamers and they're just pushing out mote male streamers. Numbers speak for themselves. You misconstruing my point into something I'm not saying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40342372
I mean imagine calling Myth the "main attraction" when they don't fucking stream. I can see why they go for more men because Tempus has shown more dedication and appreciation for their job in six months than Myth has in two years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40332244
Fujos don’t watch avatars? Since when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
Omega is gonna debut as many homofags as possible so he can debut as a relevant THEM and bootlickers are gonna praise his ass for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>40314387
I like how the pattern on his hair in the design is very clearly static and part of his face/hair but then it got rigged abysmally and he had to make up some handwavy bullshit about it.

[Anonymous No.]

I swear if the red one and the purple one arent femboys...

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304741
women don't have an easy friendship

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
don't care, red one is for sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
Tempus is the EN analogue of Stars

[Anonymous No.]

>>40328902
all you care about is when you're gonna fuck a 2D woman. Fuck you. Lore is great

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333022
bro are you seriously putting them on the same pedestal as the girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40345890
I'm saying their numbers perform pathetically compared to the girls. Hence Omegay investing money in 2 tempiss gens was completely retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40345717
Where is the Myth - Council lore headed or did they completely forget about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>40345988
>Their numbers perform pathetically compared to the girls.
Correct
>Their numbers perform successfully compared to the JP boys
This is also correct. And this is all they need, especially when the girls don't stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40345988
I dunno man, the other option is spending money on avatars that will never get used, so really whats the bigger waste of money?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40345988
you're looking at the wrong angle here... why do you think they're put in Holostars? They only pander to that audience it's not like they're forcing you to watch them it's pretty easy to ignore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346070
Surely they could have had that without pissing off trust in their core fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40344263
Holobronies really starting to sound like Qtards at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346100
>it's pretty easy to ignore.
EN is facing a very real viewership crisis due to talent burn out and the mishandled tempus 2 reveal might be the killing blow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346168
They could have... had what exactly? Your kind pisses and shits every time a man is announced even though nobody forces you to watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346300
I mean they could have debuted Tempus without killing off the brand. All they had to do was debut EN3 and have them actually stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304437
>No kemonomimi
trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346038
I don't know about that, but I did see Myth Bad Ending. Nice fan lore.. Council doesn't have theirs unfortunately

[Anonymous No.]

I like to roleplay as outraged unicorn for shits but this time they're in real trouble.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346400
Omegay should just provide them character designs and let chat come up with lore through zatsudans. Lore will never have a definite end because that means terminating the talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346373
You're literally having a meltdown and saying they "killed off the brand" because they're debuting men instead of women. This is your brain on idolshit.
You know how else they could have avoided this problem? If Myth and Council actually fucking streamed. But you want a shiny new toy, don't you? Absolutely no fucking loyalty. Tell me, why should they pander to you, who is ready to drop them because they aren't giving you new toys fast enough? You are a waste of resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346252
>EN is facing a viewership crisis
>Girls still have the same amount of viewers as they usually have.
>Fauna is still inclining
I think /vt/ is giving you brainrot. I see no change from the girls other than some of them are taking breaks, the shark an indefinite one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346373
>EN3
and what if they end up like their senpais? you're gonna ask a new one? you're treating them like used goods in a whore house. Christ...

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346433
If the Hololive fanbase is so pathetically fragile that this is actually enough to destroy them, then that's great news for me as a Nijichad. Bring it on. I laugh at your suffering while I'm enjoying myself greatly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346731
That's what unicorns do.
They're just trying to fill that empty hole in their heart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346644
No arguing here. EN brought their own demise. Gura could have coasted as the designated EN Ayame, only streaming thrice a year and raking in millions in superchat, but for that they need members who actually stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346767
I'm surprised fans haven't jumped ship earlier. EN provides absolutely NOTHING.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346373
and where is cover supposed to find these magical girls who stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40347233
Shit nigger I don't know small corpos managed to just fine. Playing games 3 hours a week is really hard, have sympathy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40347233
Honestly this is the real reason why it's such a sore point for people. The fact is, there's no worthwhile female talent left to recruit for HoloEN. Rather than face that truth, they begin pushing a narrative of some grand conspiracy to ruin vtubing by forcing men on everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40333491
No, that's exactly what they do. They might get 10 people who pass the auditions, but only 4 or 5 of them debut in the next gen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40348614
Idk I know a bunch of brit onlyfans e-girls who happen to be into games. Just hire an actual hooker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40348977
You see how even you are scraping the bottom of the barrel and suggesting hiring hookers? Yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40349034
And besides, we already have Mori so it would be redundant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40349034
I'm not joking I know thousands of onlyfans girls who post nudes and love gaming. Just point an anime avatar on their faces. The problem with holos like Ame is that even though they are just prostitutes they somehow got swindled into believing they have talent.

[Anonymous No.]

Hire Ally & Sally you shit company. A cute gimmick of 2 sisters, they have vtuber experience already, are cute idol halfus who know both English and Japanese, and I'm sure if it could actually sustain them without needing a side job, they'd stream more often than most of the EN girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40352626
I'm guessing you just casually doxed someone like a jackass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40353244
Seem legit. Look it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40353487
Arlkdfafmsf heri lepsonm id?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40353244
Nah, they've been hint hint wink wink since getting dropped by their company a few months ago and are happy to see their old regulars around them still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40304741
>That sure has helped the previous gens so well.
don't compare the brotherhood with women friendship

[Anonymous No.]

>>40312674
please be a ryushen type

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346644
the absolute state of homos

[Anonymous No.]

>>40356463
No argument, just "no u" and memes. Sad. But it won't get you EN3 any faster. You've lost. Hell, after this temper tantrum, I wouldn't be surprised if they decided not to bother with EN3 at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40358014
EN is dying exactly the way I prophecised. I'm glad I never gave a cent to these whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40346731
>you're gonna ask a new one?
its over