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Have been thinking about this for a while.
Understanding RPGs could help you understand vtubing by making some schizo tier random analogies, for instance, what makes an RPG character successful and what makes a chuba successful? in some RPG game usually characters have some properties tied to them, stats, skills, equipment, class, the stronger the stats/skills/equipment/class the stronger the character, vtubing is not too different
>stats
Personality, charisma, improvisation, how funny you are, etc, all those traits could be treated as the chuba's stats
>skills
In RPGs there are techniques and magic that characters learn usually depending on their class, in vtubing some people know how to sing, others know how to draw, some have creative ideas, some are hardworking, those can be the chuba's skills both active and passive
>equipment
Armor/swords/bows/wands/consumables etc are items that boost the character stats from the RPG, in vtubing it could be anything that helps the chuba do their job, an ASMR mic, an ukelele, a tablet for drawing, a new outfit, alcohol, etc, depending on the quality they boost the chuba's strength
>classes
RPG characters could be warriors, mages, thieves, etc. Depending on their class they have certain strategies and skills that make them shine at certain jobs. In vtubing you could say there are classes, like the hag class, the loli class, the succ class, the whore class, etc.
>buffs/debuffs
The individual power of a chuba depends on their stats, the higher their stats the more powerful she/he is, buffs help to artificially increase the chuba's stats, a chuba wins buffs by fulfilling certain conditions, for instance, If the chuba's traits have affinity with their own class (for instance, has a loli model and has a loli voice) they receive buffs for every trait that checks the mark, on the other hand if she has a roastie voice... that's a debuff right there, if the chuba does something by pure coincidence related to their lore, they gain a small buff, if the chuba has an event, there comes a small buff, some of these buffs are permanent and some are temporally, if you want growth aim for permanent ones, if you want to cash in your growth, aim for a temporally one.

Now let's talk about collabs and corporations.
>collabs
In RPGs you could clear some dungeon by yourself or you could join a party, success of the party depends on individual power of each character and teamwork. Collabs are kinda like that, the more affinity the members have the more successful it is.
>corporations
Here I will do an analogy with guilds, guilds are associations of individuals moving to achieve certain goals, by fulfilling missions they win gold and exp. The more members it has in theory the more missions they can do and the more power the guild has in general. But, if there is a limited number of jobs/missions to take and big number of members (let's say, around 200), only some members will be trusted with the hardest missions and the rest will lack the exp and gold needed for them to grow (level up/buy equipment), in order for the guild to keep up with high rank missions the guild has to keep sending their best while the rest slowly grinds their way to the top.
On the other hand, having a small number of members (let's say around 50) at first it leaves your guild with low power, but the members can take more missions on average thus letting them win more exp and gold allowing them to level up much and have better equipment at faster and more uniform pace.
Some guilds have certain focus, if you go to any mixed guild you can find someone able to do the job among all of it's members, but a guild with focus, let's say a magician guild, a magician guild's main focus is to have the best magicians and it moves towards that goal, in here magicians learn higher tier spells improving their individual power as magicians, and the more magicians inside the guild and the more powerful they are as magicians, the stronger is the magician guild.
In a similar fashion, chuba corporations's power as a brand depends on the individual power of their chubas, that shouldn't be hard to understand, the more famous their chubas the more power they gain, but the brand could have themes too, the most obvious one is hololive and it's female idol theme, maybe now you are seeing where I'm going with this, the more members that follow that theme and the more powerful they are, the stronger the buff coming from that brand theme gets and it's applied to all the members that follow that theme, on the other hand, members that don't follow the theme (like a warrior in the magician guild) or are not in the company (out of the magician guild) lose that brand theme buff partially or entirely and keep fighting with their own individual power.

From this point of view, the current state of vtubing makes sense.
Thoughts on my schizo tier analogy?

>> No.39919206

I want to have sex with Takanashi Kiara. I want to date that dork, marry that dork, breed that dork, feed and seed that dork, have a family with that dork, raise little Chuck and Baby Sneed to be just like that dork, then breed those dorks and the cycle continues

>> No.39919207

what videogames do to a mfer

>> No.39919372

>>39919156
ONIONS

>> No.39919519

>>39919156
Kind of skimmed through this, but this kind of applies to pretty much everything m8. Get some qualifications and it opens you up to more lucrative shit. Or do some shit on your own

>> No.39919598

>>39919519
It... yes it's true, in a broader sense life it's an RPG under this mindset

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>> No.39922103

>>39919156
Etrian Odyssey V is based

>> No.39922287

>>39919156
Anon, It's been nearly 5 years since the last Etrian Odyssey,
I know it's hard but you have to be patient.

>> No.39922331

I miss EO bros 2 had one of the most satisfying gameloops I've ever felt as a young lad on my ds

>> No.39922517

>>39919156
You really woke up, played Etrian and then decided to write an essay, huh?

>> No.39924658

>>39919156
Use chatgpt to make all this more concise

>> No.39928459

>>39919156
Etrian Odyssey on Switch when...

>> No.39929460

>>39922103
why? finished the first and left the 4th on the 3rd dungeon, started the 5th and skill tree looks like shit compared to 1-4

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>>39919156

>> No.39934476

>>39929460
You can unlock side jobs eventually

>> No.39936074

>>39934476
cool. reviewer who got me into EO is releasing an EO5 review today, so maybe I might be convinced

>> No.39936570

>>39936074
Who is the reviewer? A neat thing in EO5 is that there are still things to do in stratums once you beat the main boss

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anon what

>> No.39939612

>>39936570
Aboveup, he was even watching hololive while playing through EO1 in his review, which just convinced me further. Also E05 review is up, but I think I will do like EO4 review and leave once he mentions he will start spoiling stuff

>> No.39940072

>Atlus will never realize they can just release EO on PC and keyboard/mouse controls would work just well for drawing maps
>your oshi will never stream EO
sadness...

>> No.39941592

>>39939612
Thanks

>> No.39941917

>>39937357
What what? in the sense of "wtf why did you write all this garbage" or in the sense of "wtf I didn't understand anything"

>> No.39943871

>>39939612
>hololive while playing through EO1
>watching fake idol group while playing weeb pedobait wizardry clone
It fits

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>>39943871
Well yes, my party has only female characters how could you tell?

>> No.39944817

>>39919156
tldr
I just wanna fap to etrian porn.

>> No.39945119

>>39919156
>Thoughts on my schizo tier analogy?
Post it in the writing general and let someone create a whole fantasy world for you through expanding on your idea. Though I feel like someone is bound to have already done something similar.
You could also check out the world building general, some aspects of your comparison are present in their world.

>> No.39945124

For me, it's Nightseeker.

>> No.39945314

>>39944817
>chubas have stats, skills, equipment and class like RPG characters
>collabs are like parties
>corporations are like guilds
>have a lot of members members in a guild and they will level up and gear up slowly, have few and they will level up and gear up at a faster pace
>have a guild oriented to magicians and all the magicians in that guild will be buffed, in the same way, have a vtuber brand theme (like a female idol theme) and all the members that follow that theme will get buffed, and the buff gets stronger the more that theme is followed and the more powerful the members that follow that theme are

>> No.39945348

>>39944758
You mean there's any other way to play EO?

>> No.39945575

>>39945314
That's dumb, OP can also do an RPG analogy for literally anything and I still won't care.

>> No.39945670

>>39945575
>That's dumb
Why?

>> No.39945703

>>39945348
Not that I would know

>> No.39945809

>>39945670
I could compare my cat's life to an rpg and it would have just as many similarities. There's really no point.

>> No.39947794

>>39945809
Maybe you could shitpost with that in /an/

>> No.39947856

>>39919156
tl;dr

>> No.39948801

>>39947856
>>39945314

>> No.39956855

>>39919156

>> No.39957383

I think the analogy doesn't work in some aspects but it's a great extended metaphor. A+ Definitely not schizo. Did you want a specific opinion on your theory?

>> No.39965616

>>39919156
This was a good OP, I wish people on this board put as much effort in their posts as he did. Anyway, rather than an extended metaphor, I think it could serve as a basis for an amusing game with some further development.

>> No.39966258

>>39957383
Yep, feel like it's not complete

>> No.39967310

>>39966258
Well I'm guessing based on context but if your looking to make the extended metaphor more complete. All internet personalities have a life-cycle of popularity. So if it were an RPG you would assume that after a certain point the character would lose power and retire. This could be affected by the type of content they produce having lasting appeal.

>> No.39969473

>>39919156
Holy shit, it's like RPG games are meant to simulate reality or something and guilds were a real thing that got subsumed into corporations!

>> No.39971071

>>39919156
God I hate retards. You have literally never put a single thought into anything outside of video games and anime.

>> No.39971395

>>39971071
Extend his metaphor about RPGs in to the wider world and trick him in to learning. Have a heart anon.

>> No.39977558

>>39967310
That mechanic sounds interesting, but very annoying to deal with

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>>39919156
too long, have an oni for the effort

>> No.39979090

So what are the Lamys then?

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