/nina/ - Amogus with (YOU) Edition

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Nina is NOW live (20:00 CET/11:00 PST/14:00 EST)
She is playing Amogus together with (You)!

Interested how Nina sings? Check her last Karaoke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgDMD8rMIlo

http://twitch.tv/ninaninin

Her Twitter: https://twitter.com/ninanininvt

>who is Nina?
Nina is a Dutch indie vtuber who is a variety streamer playing a variety of games from typical kusoge, retro, rpgs to touhou and sings karaoke once a month (That's TODAY). She is well known for her hard work, wonderful singing and her support for other indies.

Also known as the CEO of Seiso.

Friendly threads: /koopa/ ; /africat/

YouTube VODs (more to be uploaded in future, she has them all on disk): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZYetJ72XDX0sn5GQLx-rBA

Pastebin of VOD timestamps for clippers (if you make one and post it ITT I'll add it): https://pastebin.com/sbMyTDne

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amogus

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Don't let anyone know I said this, but I think I might love Nina.

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>>3909895
Me too, fellow ninabro.. but for now, I need to get tucked in and play some Amogus with my Big Sis.

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>>3909856
This is the first amogus stream I have ever watched. Only for Nina would I do this.
>>3909895
Don't worry, your secret is safe with her

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Hope anons get to play, and thay the stream is fun

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>>3909981
To be fair I haven't watched much Amogus either but its clearly supposed to be a stream for (us) so why not?

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>>3909955
>>3910014
I'm not going to be playing with her because I refuse to play Among Us out of principle. Also, I don't have it.

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>Cop Nina
uoh

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>people arent joining
???

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>>3910407
I'M STUCK IN A FUCKING MEETING AHHHH

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Reminder that Nina is officially endorsed by Albert Einstein

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>>3910407
I've got work soon, so no joining for me sadly.

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>>3910407
I feel like Nina unironically intimidates people

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>>3910497

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>>3910497
I know she intimidates me, same reason I don't join the discord. Though I also just don't want to play Among Us.

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>>3910497
Indeed, I love her but she's scary. She's too powerful for her own good.

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>>3910497
Imagine being so seiso you're scary.

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won't be able to try and join because of work, have fun ninabros

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>now realizing all the usual 'play with the streamer' games aren't ones I play or even own
fug

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>>3910407
I have never played before and too autistic to join

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>>3910497
I'm very scared of spewing spaghetti everywhere if I ever get the chance to directly interact with her.

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>>3910497
I knew that vtubers are intimidated but I didnt expect viewers outside of /here/ are?

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Anons, I have a terrible confession to make - not even Nina can make this stream interesting for me. I think I'm just gonna have it open in another tab while I watch Mocca. Am I a terrible fan?

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>>3911093
Well, its a community stream so yeah, if you arent interested in playing with her..

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>>3911127
O-oh...I see...

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Can't watch nor play so it's pretty rough to support. The game is a bit boring as well so it doesn't help. But I think the zatsudan tomorrow is going to be pretty good.

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>>3911093
Don't worry, anon. Game's boring to watch, good to play (if you like it's kind).
I'm listening to the stream while playing Factorio. (I'd play that with her, but never gonna happen)

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>>3911306
to be frank I'm surprised like 70% of the thread does not own among us lmao

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>>3911351
The only game of this kind that I enjoyed was Throne of Lies but it is super dead

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>>3911377
at least 70% of the thread (I hope) had to endure the infinite amogus arc and then figuratively burned their copies of the game

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>>3911805
I played a few games but I didn't have much fun

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>>3911377
If i wanted to talk to chuuba i would send them DM.
Not buy bad game with terrible community.

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>>3911878
I bought it just to play with CEO and I just refunded it. EZ

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>>3911899
Actually smart move.
And i am also surprised it is like 4/5 dollars.

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The thread is an interesting read because when Koopa played the game the reception was completely different

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>>3911945
I believe Koopa also played it when people weren't so damn tired of it yet.

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>>3911377
At first I simply dismissed it as yet another flavour of the month game, so I never bothered getting into it. Now I'm burned out from hearing zoomers obsess over it, so I have no interest in playing it.

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>>3911945
i mean koopa played it on a Saturday (?) so more people were available at that time.

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>>3911945
Koopa has the kind of wacky personality that can make a paint drying stream fun. Nina is great and I love her, but she's more of a reactive streamer, and amogus is boring as fuck by now. There's nothing really interesting for her to react to.

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>Wednesday night
>playing among us and doing her best to avoid cancer
>still 132 viewers
Good my child, grow!

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>>3912056
You missed yesterdays stream cheer-anon!

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>>3911945
The threads are pretty different tbqh
>>3912033
I disagree, both are fun and make things fun but I don't eally dig the amogus streams, so it serves mainly as background noise

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>>3912113
And i will unfortunately miss saturday one too because of work.

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>>3912033
I also don't find one funnier than the other.

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>>3912194
>both are fun and make things fun
Well sure. Nina is lots of fun. But she doesn't have the sheer tangent-making, rambling, dorky crackhead energy that Koopa does. She needs more to work with, and usually her choice of games gives her that. Not so much this time, at least as a viewer. I'm glad she's having fun playing it with the others, but it's less fun to watch. Just my opinion, though.
>>3912382
Never said that. Just saying their streaming styles are different.

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>>3912227
About that, will we have a single thread or not? Last one was a bit unpleasant at the start.

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>>3912442
I dont remember the unpleasantries need to look up the archives.

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>>3912442
I genuinely have no idea what are you referring to, as i was not watching Nina stream, nor reading thread yesterday for the same reason i will not watch and take part in it on saturday.

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>>3912439
Hm, I think we will partially disagree on that. At least for me, Nina hides her powerlevel quite a bit, while Koopa doesn't.
I do agree it doesn't make for a fun viewer experience but I felt the same thing with Koopa's, there are highlights though.

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>>3912558
A single thread for the collab saturday, I didn't want to reply to your post, my bad

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>>3912627
>>/vt/thread/S2169966#p2169966

People weren't happy about the descriptions in the OP but I dont see a problem personally.

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>>3912442
If we don't make one, someone from one of the other gorls' threads probably will.

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>>3912579
Koopa rarely filters herself, which if you ask me is great since she doesn't seem like an annoying person, and her shenanigans are often entertaining. Nina for lack of better wording seem to be more of a normalfag than Koopa, which is not a high bar to jump over really, considering it is Koopa, first ever born vtuber out of this forsaken site (if you are reading this momy, please no bully, i have nothing but koopalove for you) and tries to filter some of her quirks, i kinda dread to say it, but she kinda acts more professional.
It is a matter of preference really, some will definitely enjoy those rare moments when Nina drops her spaghetti a lot more. And some will be drawn to Koopa unhinged antics.
Me, personally i love them both

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sususy

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>>3912765
That might be it. It felt silly and since there was a problem with the timing (thread was made 1 hour earlier) there was nothing to drown that discussion. Either way, we will see.

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>>3912627
People were having autism moment the same way when some anon found Nerine reaction to Nina raid as antagonistic. I see no problem with it.

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How did she win that...

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>>3912853
Yeah, what I was trying to get at is basically that the difference between Nina's and Koopa's amogus streams is that Koopa's streaming style can handle a debuff game like that because the whole point of watching Koopa is that you have no idea what she's going to do or say next. Even if nothing interesting is happening in the game, she'll find a way to just keep talking and cracking jokes. She even will frequently just stop playing for a bit and just ramble. Essentially, all her streams are just zatsudans. Whereas Nina, while an equally good streamer, needs a bit more to play off of, as her brand of wit needs context to make it work. She's a more traditional streamer in that way, playing and reacting to the game more, and keeping a balance between being straight-faced and being funny.

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>>3913252
God bless she sounds so happy lmao

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please understand guys, i'm really fucking stupid

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>>3913375
Yeah, me too.

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>>3913265
Nina won't let her shitposting go full power because of her anxiety. Fear of backlash, losing friends etc.

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>>3913523
Nina is a chuuni and her shitposting skills are sealed in her right arm

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>>3913375
>>3913462
Anons...

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>>3913523
I suppose that's a factor, too, but I think Nina just prefers to go more for the gap moe factor of acting very professional a lot of the time and then occasionally acting very silly.
>>3913601
This is the correct explanation.

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>my oshi thinks people dont want to play with her
>she sounds worried

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>>3913859
For how many people watch her it is kinda weird, i understand that us 15 ip in this thread are either jaded or autistic, but i am surprised people out of this thread don't try too join. Is it really just cause of wednesday and people being busy?

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>>3913859
Don't guilt trip me anon... I have ro work...

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>>3913859
This probably ranks quite high up in fears for someone with severe social anxiety anons..

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>>3913958
I think it's more like people already played and want to give a chance for others to play, so no one joins in the end.
I have to say that from the quick glances I had there were some spergs or little kids in the chat, which is a bit annoying.
And it seems Nina intimidates viewers and chuubas alike

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>>3914040
I wonder if there were some people that dropped her when she opened up to us about this on that karaoke, she is getting consistently less viewers than last month, and i have really no idea as to why. Were Silent Hill and DaS2 really such a buff games?

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>>3913958
Honestly if she or one of her discord regulars is reading this thread, I would say not to overthink it too much. People are genuinely tired of this particular game and it's the middle of the week. It's also work/school hours for most of my fellow burgers, which is a good chunk of her audience. I love Nina and always catch her streams if I can, but not even she could make me play this crap, and I bet even a lot of her more normalfag audience feels the same. In short, she should try doing a Mario Kart stream or something on the weekend to dispel her doubts on this matter, I bet it would be much better received.

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>>3914164
I fucking hope not because thats literally the content of her life stories.

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>>3914164
Her viewers are normal though? Yesterday it was 180s, last week it was only the touhou one that was a bit weaker. It is very stable.
It's just the game itself today, it's more of a community day than anything.

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>>3914254
Yeah, i am probably overthinking it, people would probably rather try saviorfagging than dropping someone because of that.

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>>3914254
This, EVERYONES community streams are always lower.

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>Autist goes nuclear in viewer game
That's always the fear isn't it

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>>3914189
I support this, if she would play any other game, unless it is full priced aaa trash or apex, i would probably buy it just to play with her on stream.
But among other games, among us is one of those i have no desire to play, no matter with whom.

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>>3914328
Thats the way to end the stream

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>>3914164
>dropping a chuuba for having social anxiety
Not even normalfags do this, they find streamers' insecurities to be cute. It's just that Nina is currently in a plateau. She'll break out if she keeps grinding, though.

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>>3914328
What happened?

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>>3914443
Someone was using hacks in game.

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>>3914411
Steady growth to be fair.

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>>3914495
Oh, that's better than I expected

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Aight, listening to her we probably aren't getting more community streams any time soon I get a feeling.

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>>3914884
Certainly not in June when hiatus happens.

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>>3914884
Mind why you think that?

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>>3914949
Mind explaining*

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>>3914949
She was her usual self to my knowledge but felt like apologizing at the end of the stream and she clearly felt uncomfortable with people not willing to join. Not trying to be a schizo, just saw the nervousness.

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>>3914945
June's gonna be rough

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>>3914949
Anon probably sees her apologetic tone about being "out of" her streaming game and some problems with garnering players as her now being insecure about trying more community streams.
Which for all we know might be true. I still believe it is just because of that fucking retarded game.

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>>3915109
S-sugoi... >>3915059

>>3915060
Why does it hurt?

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I want to punch Mocca, holy shit.

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>>3915226

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>>3915226
What happened? I immediately muted the tab once Nina ended her stream.

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NINA LOVE THOUGH I WILL BE THERE FOR TOMORROWS ZATSU

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>>3915226
MOCCA HATE

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>>3915398
Yeah, tomorrow will be nice, too bad I have to work still, but can probably tune in with my phone

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>>3915620
>>3915226
Ok, I don't get it. They are friendly with each other, is it another "Nerines hated the raid" thing?

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For the ninabros who are worried for ninas growth - community mightve not showed up for her BUT it was still a fairly buff game for her. See picture. Not cope, just numbers.

>>3915705
Its just Mocca being Mocca - so yeah, just a bad first impression with him proposing live to Nina.

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>>3915705
Aww Nerine didnt like Nina's raid?

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>>3916017
she was rather indifferent of it which one anon took as she hated it

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>>3916017
>>3916149
And said anon, I, in question, understood that it was just a bad impression as I don't know nerines that well. It's ogey now.

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>>3916149
I always thought the two would get along, though maybe that's just because they're accents are similar so my brain makes the connection. Nerine is kind of a wet blanket though

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>>3916017
She literally stopped playing for a moment in a story heavy game to let people who not want to get suddenly spoiled to leave.
Which someone took as being unkind.

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>>3916295
Nerine is kind of an menhera and extremely low energy/depressed a lot of the time.

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Let me just reaffirm, Nerines liked the raid, she is just a depressed low energy kind of girl, it's her style.

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>>3916454
Anon who made the original statement also said its ogey now >>3916250

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Well I enjoyed today's stream, it was fun. Nina is not very good at killing people

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>>3916673
I watched a few minutes and saw Nina winning as impostor so that's a 100% win-rate from me

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>>3916954
She murdered a man in broad daylight right in front of somebody and forgot how to open her escape route...

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https://twitter.com/NinanininVT/status/1395137726341595137?s=19

fuck

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>>3917171
I SHOULD HAVE JOINED
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>3917171
THIS IS ALL OUR FAULT
WE SHOULD'VE JOINED

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>>3917171
I'm sorry Nina

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>>3917171
I unfortunately read it right AND I HATE BEING RIGHT THIS ONE TIME. She unfortunately isn't making up the severe anxiety and hikki story it seems and she probably just went through some sort of personal timeloop hell.

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>>3917171
>it's not a ninababy
I don't feel any good right now...

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>>3917171
Nina, please see >>3914189 and don't beat yourself up

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WHY AM I SUCH A RETARDED LURKER SOMETIMES FUUUUUUCK

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>>3917754
I just woke up... But don't beat yourself up over it, just how I hope Nina doesn't beat herself up over it too much either

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>>3917659
>>3917754
I literally couldn't be there because of my job, can't even watch streams during the week and only have a few minutes sometimes... I was even looking forward to the zatsudan since I had less work

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>>3917848
If you are a hikki with severe anxiety and you make the invitation for people to play with you and they dont, its something you will beat yourself up over. That's unfortunately the reality.

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>>3917927
You know what they say, the fanbase imitates the streamer. Nina's anxious hikki fans let her down today, even though they didn't mean to.

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>>3918000
Trips checked, so probably true what you are saying here. My view though most of us are actually wagies and most are looking for self improvement. We're a pretty positive fanbase, it's just Nina doesn't know about us because she isnt browsing this thread with exception of a screenshot or two when people decide to break containment to her.

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>>3917171
WHY ARE YOU NIGGERS SO SOCIALLY ANXIOUS YOU CANT PLAY WITH YOUR IDOL WTF i was on my oshi's stream, gomen ninabros

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>>3918106
This is also true. I hear that Nina's discord is full of /fit/bros and STEM nerds in school or with jobs, too. I recently stopped being a NEET and got a full-time job because of Nina...though I don't have any excuse for not joining her game today except that I don't own the game and don't want to play it.

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honestly, i will be more active on all chuubas chat/community stuff from now on.
i will do better.

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>>3917171
AAAAAA FUCK, I SHOULD'VE JUST BOUGHT THE FUCKING GAME

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I was at work and didn't want to risk being in the middle of a round while I had to talk to a costumer like it happened to me before so I didn't really try to join I'm sorry Nina I could have done more

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Ok
I'm feeling like shit
What can >we do for Nina rn?

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I hope you will all join me and take a vow to do better next time. I swear I won't let Nina down again.

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>was probably really excited to have her viewers play with her
>couldn't even fill more than one lobby, and only of her most loyal chatters
>viewer numbers low
>probably doubting herself super hard
>"I'll be focusing on singing instead of chatting" = "Maybe people only like me for my singing"
>so sad she's cancelling tomorrow's stream
>probably cried a little bit
Kill me...I'm so sorry Nina...

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Is it really so common for indies to end up with full lobby in a video game? I know bigger corporate are usually immediately filled to the brim, but is it really surprising for someone in Nina bracket?

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I just got some last minute news. Tomorrow is not Zatsudan like in the schedule. It has been converted into an unprepped karaoke stream. Don't fail her this time, Ninabros!

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I was really looking forward to the zatsu, Nina please your banter is some of the best content there is, we love your singing but you humor is amazing too
and we love to hear you talk

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>>3918677
she had around 120~150 viewers so I really found it surprising she didn't really get full lobbies, only other indie that I tried to join was koopa and she got a few full groups other than the ones she started too early for troopas to join in

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>>3918588
>"Maybe people only like me for my singing"
If she does feel like this she should remember that she carried a great 7 hour stream with nothing but her personality yesterday. Honestly I just think most of her audience was too busy/shy to participate

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>>3918588
>viewer numbers low
This part at least wasn't true. There were plenty of people watching, just not many actually joining the game.

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>>3918791
It confirms that koopa has more amongus players in the fans. I watch nina but don't play the game.

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>>3918807
It's one thing to spend 5 dollars on your oshi, it's another to pay 5 dollars for a dogshit game.

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>>3918702
Well I will take your word for it, I can only join during work.
>Don't fail her this time
Please... I already feel like shit even if I couldn't even join

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>>3918519
I'll do better.. it's really tough sometimes though because she is so perfect in my eyes that I forget she's a human with feelings. Meanwhile she is actually fighting and while she smiles and laughs she literally feels like she is carrying the weight of the world on her shoulders.

>>3918677
Her benchmark was VERY likely Koopa but yeah, at a 100 viewers you have fresh lobbies every two games quite often.

>>3918588
Well, yeah, probably..

>>3918702
>>3918706
I think she ESL'd that post, she wouldn't write about disappointing us as she never was self-deprecating about her singing before. Likely the stream tommorow is 100% binned.

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>>3918702
I'm pretty sure she meant the stream tomorrow isn't happening and that she's just going to take the day off for singing practice

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>>3918873
>>3918702
Okay, I went back to read that tweet if that was what you were talking about, I think it means no stream at all.
Unless you got insider info.

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>>3918861
This is a very good take BUT not for someone who struggles with social rejection and anxiety. If you throw a party and none appears ITS YOU who is the problem, that's the chain of thought here.

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>>3918838
https://twitchtracker.com/ninaninin
Look under "recent streams". Today's is the lowest viewership she's had in quite some time, relatively speaking.

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>>3919047
The point is people came, just not all the poeple, it is middle of the week, and as much as it sucks to have your expectations betrayed, Nina needs to put it behind her.

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>>3918519
It's rough, streams are literally during my work, only if I can somehow bypass the block my work's pc has on twitch

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>>3919110
To be fair with you I dont think the viewership is the issue, it's the participation. But yeah, nothing to disagree with your post, she'll bounce back I'm sure.

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>>3918957
>>3919015

All the discord regulars say she is streaming tomorrow. We will see.

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For a second i thought this is /wvt/ in terumi stream hours with all this guilt tripping in this thread. Get a grip guys, the point is not to wallow in self pity, but to look what went wrong. Attending some other among us community stream out of guilt will only end with yet another one later one even more empty when people inevitably get jaded and start to make up reasons as to why they didn't want to play when earlier shit was full.
This stream did not confirm that people don't want to play or interact with Nina, if that was the case, people would just tune off the moment she closed the game, but most of us from what i see stay for post zatsus, it only confirmed that they don't give a fuck about a certain video game where the main draw was playing it.
NINALOVE, she needs to stay strong, as much as it easy to say from the other side of monitor.

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>>3917171
I'm sorry nina I only had time to play for one round in the middle of my meeting please dont feel bad

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>>3919415
We already talked about that above. Ninabros just don't play Among Us all that much, compared to other crowds, and it was midweek so even if they were watching somewhere at work (eh) they still couldn't exactly join and play.

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As far as viewership goes, i guess we can pin it on the fact that it is getting warmer in euroland, means people will stay outdoors more with coof also being less of a menace.
And obviously the fact that nijien debuted and possibly siphoned a few indies chuuba numbers.

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>>3919415
I know but it's mostly a cope because it honestly sucks to see someone so uplifting and that helped you pick yourself up a bit feel like that. There is a plethora of reasons for what happened but none of them are her responsability.
In a few hours I will feel better but now I kinda feel like shit because of it, and I'm almost starting to think about my approach to streams because of that. As much as they are entertainment, some of them have my honest with for success...
In the end, I just feel like doing something for her but the lack of skills doesn't help.

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>>3919756
wish for success*

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>>3917171
>had to work during the stream
Nina gomen

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>>3918396
It's a real struggle for me. On one hand I hate feeling like a dweeb or an attention whore being really active in chat or joining their discord or whatever and pretending we're friends. But on the other hand I do genuinely enjoy them and want to support them and interact.

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>>3919914
I feel the exact same. Nina is someone who I enjoy watching and feel inspired by, but being all buddy-buddy in chat or the discord would feel weird to me, even if being friendly with Nina on an equal basis would be a dream come true. Still, she's the only chuuba I support monetarily by maintaining a sub, and I've shilled her a ton. I think there's plenty that lurkers can do to support their oshi, and we shouldn't feel obligated to interact in ways we don't want.

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>>3917171
Fucking hell, I only just got home from work. If only I played before going in...

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>>3919914
Just join in and try it out if you feel like that, you don't become friends just because you follow them on socials or something, you just might organically hit it off with some people. Granted it might turn out that cliques already formed and there is no place to really even hit it off with anyone. But you can just always go back to lurking the moment you find community annoying.
>>3920055
Dubs of falsehood, in some capacity at least, after that story about using streaming as a device to cope with social anxiety, the last think that should happen, is people to prepping her up as an indie western Sora.

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>>3920055
Yeah I think MAJORITY of Ninabros are like you Anon. And that's the crux of the issue because if us viewers are doing this her chuuba friends must do the same thing. People already been seeing close to zero interaction she is getting from others on twitter.

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>>3920357
>after that story about using streaming as a device to cope with social anxiety, the last thing that should happen, is people to prepping her up as an indie western Sora
Look, we all love Nina here, but this is wrong. At the end of the day, Nina is an entertainer and it's on her to provide an experience people want to participate in. She can't rely on her viewers to do anything for her out of obligation or fear that she might be sad. Also, viewers shouldn't pressure other viewers to do things that make them uncomfortable because "community". Nina is a big girl and needs to learn to navigate the ups and downs of being a streamer herself. If she wants to stream because she likes interacting with viewers in certain ways, she should try to cultivate the kind of audience that wants to do that.

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>>3920629
That was kind of my point, don't prep her as some western indie daisenpai that can do no wrong, antagonizing both sides, chuubas and viewers alike from making a move on interacting with her. From watching her streams, i never got the impression that she wants to be put on pedestal by people, she is super chill with people, especially chat regulars, it is probably flattering to hear someone got motivated to do something because of you, it is also probably awkward to be refused something simply because people projected some kind of image of you. I do agree though that cultivating an audience is for the most part her job, but there is a place for self reflection on both sides.

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>>3919914
>>3920055
I am a hard lurker myself but I did interact with a few people that created content back in the day, when it wasn't as bad for me to talk.
Being very active in chat and being on Discord doesn't really make you seem like "we're friends" kind of guy. You can have perfectly healthy interactions as fan and vtuber.
Just because you're there it doesn't mean you will have to interact every time you see her, it's just a place to talk about stuff in a more niche type of community. Talking in chat is even less of an issue in regards to that since you are only offering some extra comments, joke, or info.
But, in the end, you have to do what you feel most comfortable with, and what you want (even if it's out of your comfort zone)

Personally, like I said, I'm a hard lurker so the only place I talk is here, but I really enjoy Nina with all my heart, since every stream that I watch (even though they're mainly VODs) makes me feel very refreshed and it entertains me to no end. I have yet to catch yesterday's VOD but from the thread I know I will have a blast, even today's stream, I'm certain it wasn't bad. I truly wish to relay things like that but I'm only comfortable here to do this type of stuff.

I guess the biggest thing is that Nina very rarely showed signs of weakness, only some comments about being a shut-in in the past en passant. So this type of thing ends up being a bit of a surprise. I guess some of us kinda lost sight that she is a lot like us and is using vtubing as her way of bettering herself, which is another things that inspired a lot of Ninabros here.
But >>3920629 still has a valid point that people can't try to force others to do stuff they're not comfortable with, since this will only hinder their enjoyment. Support her on your own way, and if you want. I'm sure she will bounce back from this, and, unfortunately, that's how streaming goes sometimes.
I wrote this in parts so things might feel disconnected

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>>3920838
>it is also probably awkward to be refused something simply because people projected some kind of image of you
Well...I guess I didn't think of it that way. It's hard sometimes to view her as just a normal person, but it it's true. But viewers have their own hangups, too. I suppose it's a two-way street, like you said. Maybe if Nina wants to be treated in a more familiar way by her viewers, I should consider it. And maybe I and other viewers aren't so repulsive that she'd dislike speaking with us. I'll have to reflect on this...
>>3920897
>You can have perfectly healthy interactions as fan and vtuber
Maybe I took the "DM your oshi and she'll hate you forever" meme a little too seriously...
>some of us kinda lost sight that she is a lot like us and is using vtubing as her way of bettering herself
Aww, hell. You're right. I'm gonna think about talking in chat more, or maybe even joining her discord just to check it out. I suppose that at the end of the day, Nina wouldn't want her fans to think so little of themselves and so highly of her that she ends up without anyone to talk to. I still don't like seeing anyone say that we're somehow responsible for her well-being, but I personally have always kind of wanted to be a more active member of her community. I just never felt worthy, and I'm shy. But if Nina can try to be more outgoing for our sakes, I can try for her.

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>>3921240
The fact that she takes the time to welcome everyone at the start might be a testament that she is not pressing [x] to genuflect the moment someone types something in chat. I don't want to be the guy that tells someone to go out and interact more with people in general, especially if you like your streams to be watched in a serene atmosphere, devoid of chat and others. But i will always say that if you are limiting yourself in any capacity because some people (who half the time are fucking around and joking probably) are creating a strawman of someone, even if not intentionally. Then you should watch the content, see the streamer for yourself, and use your own judgment as to how you really want to interact with someone.

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>>3921590
I can only speak for myself, but I have something in common with Nina in that I've been a hikki for way longer than her with poor self-esteem and social anxiety, so to some extent I really did believe I wasn't worthy to interact with her. But considering that she has experienced the same things and is vtubing to help overcome them, it would be really stupid and ironic to avoid her on that basis. So...I'll try. I'm nobody important, but if she can make me smile with her company, maybe I can return the favor. Maybe we're not so different after all.

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>>3921240
You should do it if you want, don't feel forced to but if you truly plan to try, take one step at a time.
>I still don't like seeing anyone say that we're somehow responsible for her well-being
I don't think it's true and I also dislike guilt tripping, and the "they will hate you forever" is extremely obnoxious and untrue. Of course there are limits but those are very obvious and if you are unsure it is fair to ask anons for help if you truly need, there is no shame in that.
I'm sure for many it is kind of a first time thing to be around indies so this much is natural.
Don't feel responsible for her mental health but do remember the person on the other side has just as many difficulties and problems as you. Don't demonize yourself while idolizing them. Sure a little of gosling on the side to play around is fine buy don't put yourself so down because, like you said, she wouldn't like that either.
But like I said, take things at your own pace, don't force if you feel like you are not ready, the most important thing is to enjoy yourself and Nina's content.
And, most importantly, NINA LOVE!

This was a heavier thread on a more emotionally taxing day, but hopefully everyone comes back stronger from this. We still have a collab this week to cheer for!

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>>3921944
>if you truly plan to try, take one step at a time
It's what I've been doing in many other areas of my life lately, and I really do mean it when I say I owe it to Nina. She and other chuubas really gave me an idea of something to live for, and I don't want to let her down.
>We still have a collab this week to cheer for!
I'm super psyched for it, too. There's actually a couple big collabs this week, luckily not at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>Saw Nina's tweet
>Feel like shit
>Come to check thread
>Everyone else feels like shit too
I wish I had this stupid five dollar game but cash is tighter than Hell. Fuck. Feels bad.

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Goodnight Ninabros, I hope everyone feels better tomorrow.

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>>3922516
Could have played it on phone for free

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The cringiest thread on /vt/ holy shit.

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>>3924990
pls no bulli, we're mourning

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>>3924990
Yes, and?

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>>3924116
I was getting there but now Miura is fucking dead so I'm not

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>>3928334
>it's real
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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For everyone who is feeling bad or wants to help Nina, I think the best thing that we could all do is just not let this be a bigger thing than it is. That means not freaking out in the thread tomorrow about numbers or participation, not being overly focused on posting in twitch chat, and not overloading Nina with pity donations and excessive concern.
Sometimes, streams (and really any sort of personal creator projects) just don't work out well and learning how to take those in stride is an important part of growth. I would imagine that having a bunch of overzealous, though good intention, worry and concern would only make her feel worse instead of just letting her continue to grow and get over a roadbump. So, just don't be a sperg and have fun with the next upcoming streams and let Nina vent and feel frustrated without the need to constantly pat her on the ass.

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>>3929320
I don't think it's a bad thing, there was some important talk around here as well
I just don't think there will be a stream tomorrow

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>>3929455
I wouldn't say it's a bad thing to send some support or well wishes but I would say it'd be a bad thing to make it a bigger deal than it is, sometimes things don't work out. It's really nothing more than that. Still next stream should be a lot of fun and I'm looking forward to her collab. Though I always like her solo streams more I think she's going to have a blast playing Jeopardy.

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>>3929700
Not saying that, mainly just saying there was something to talk out of what happened. And yeah, content creation is like that.
The support and well wishes are important though. Anyway, the next thread will be only for the collab, most likely only one for everyone.
o7

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>>3929320
you are absolutely right, but i at least will try to manage logging back into my twitch account

[Anonymous No.]

Why didn't you protect her smile?

[Anonymous No.]

This smile is gone, perhaps forever. Why did you do it?

[Anonymous No.]

You fags are insane. One mediocre stream doesn't mean anything you fucking schizos. Take your meds and calm the fuck down.

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>Shimada remembers us
Tiger...

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>wake up
>couldn't catch up recently
>read the thread and >>3928334
My day hasn't even started and it's ruined already

[Anonymous No.]

Play with her next time
F66N9-5H4Z9-W9JC7
(There was a second one but there was an issue with it)

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She doesn't deserve this.

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Please let the thread die already, it always ends up with some schizo hijack

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>>3929320
How bout we do a niner canvas

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>>3928334
Yeah dude ni....
Fucking hell, we never actually got off the boat after all.

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>>3920357
Does anyone have this stream? I remember watching it but can't remember which one it was. I'd been wanting to revisit it for a while.

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>>3936239
It was on most recent karaoke, no idea if this part is in the youtube archive, since Nina edits those around copyright memes. Your best bet would be to lurk in archives for some mega link, i am fairly certain someone was posting it there.

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>>3936411
I really wish twitch wasn't so shit about keeping vods around. I'm pretty sure I archived that karaoke but one of my hard drives died and I didn't do my backup reps...

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>>3931898
It wasn't even a mediocre stream

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>>3936543
Absolutely wasn't and that's speaking objectively - but I understand the struggle.
>>3920357
Unironically Nina IS Sora of /wvt/ but even Sora isn't isolated for being a daisenpai. It's one thing to be treated like this by other creators but then getting a message that actually viewers dislike interacting with you directly.

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Honestly i don't see what the problem is. i watched like 10 rounds and participated in 5 and the lobby was full every time.
Playing isn't that interesting and I'm sure many people would rather just listen to nina, so what's there to be sad about?

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>>3937642
>expect something
>don't get that specific something
>[anxiety intensifies]
>people start saviorfagging
Seems most likely.
>>3936754
Unironically you should never expect anything for granted. Prepping her as the Sora as you said was the one thing that detracted a lot of anons from those threads from joining in, they did said it themselves. People praise her all the time here and in /wvt/,and for good reasons, but it puts ideas in people heads, where in the end she is just a young woman entertaining people with still relatively small audience.
And the only message to take from this is to realize you might have cultivated an audience that doesn't play fotm vidya, or ironically enjoys your performance as an entertainer more than actually playing a video game. Unless you mean there was a literal message like that, which i didn't catch if there was one.

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>>3937642
As someone who had pretty bad anxiety myself I can definitely see why something like this would affect her. Even if you've mostly gotten over the condition you can still occasionally fall back into the usual mental traps every so often, it's just that usually you've gained the self-awareness to realise that you're not thinking straight and are able to snap yourself back to reality quickly, so hopefully that's what will happen here.

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>>3937833
What other message is to take from the fact she was waiting 5-10 minutes for some lobbies to fill in as the chat regulars wanted to make space for others or already had their fix? This would trigger half of the flags in anos post here >>3938137. To be fair I'm sure Nina knew the turn out will be low but but I think her expectations of low were not met even when she saw lobbies not filling up. Pretty normal response for someone who has struggles with being social. I personally appreciate her more now after this even though she clearly doesn't want us for this flaw to be her defining factor.

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>>3938219
She is literally most known for playing old and/or jank games and singing. Is it really surprising that relatively small audience that gravitated towards person with content like this would have little interest in playing a meme game? I am legitimately asking here, i never watched streamers until hololive blew up with start of coof. So maybe i have distorted expectation and mindset towards it, but such reliance on each other seems like bomb ready to blow up and fuck someone up.
Especially since she doesn't have thousands of viewers, i am sure pink cat, her crew or holos can fill lobby of any game they play, but it happens because a sizable amount of people watch them.
I expect that in mind of a person that deals or dealt with social anxiety it might translate to something else, but hopefully she can look at it more objectively later on put it behind her.

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>>3939137
Actually that's a valid point, and if you consider a lot of people end up watching her streams during work or other stuff, it isn't all that weird, and not a representation of people disliking her. The day before had a different stream, with a more shitposty vibe, but it was a very good one, with a very nice gap from the usual content. Yesterday wasn't bad, just lacking in regards to interaction considering the time and her usual community.
I just noticed but we are getting on a timeloop now, so that only means we are going to make it.

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>>3939137
She will 100% bounce back, but likely she wont be hosting community games on stream anymore. Thats my expectation.

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>>3939571
That feels really bad.

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Just learned about this, and this should be a clear sign that (you) need to participate more with streamers you like and stop letting your brain rot social anxiety control your actions. Streamers want you to interact with them, so do it. Chat with them, play with them, tweet at them. Stop letting "but muh attention whore" poison your mind.

[Anonymous No.]

I came here to bully you nerds. You deserve all the bullying for your failure yesterday

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>>3944425
Bully my cock you faggot.

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>>3944552
Oh spicy if only you guys showed this much balls in joining the games yesterday

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>>3944603
There is no amount of sad internet performers that will make me play game i am not interested in.

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>>3944110
>Stop letting "but muh attention whore" poison your mind
>months of "why do you want to interact, you groomer"
>put on lists
>spreadsheets
>always told that you're not appreciated
>see people calling other sin the chat as annoying for no good reason
>schizos latching onto a viewer
>"they hate you" "they will hate you" "they make fun of you"
As much as this was done mostly as a joke or shitposting, it takes its toll. Just like you can fake it until you make it, you can end up believing something and putting yourself down from the constant shit that gets told.
It's easy to say "don't take it seriously" but you aren't talking to a group of mentally healthy individuals.
Either way, you can't pressure people into doing something they don't want to, since it will make them stop enjoying it. Like it was said already, if you want support and interact more, if you want to start doing it, it can be at you own pace.

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Why does it feel like discordtrannies suddenly came for SOME reason?

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>>3945085
I dont understand the comment, dialogue is on the usual /nina/ level? What's the problem?

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>>3945152
Trying to stir shit on other threads, don't even bother

[Anonymous No.]

Nina is being a little whiny. She should appreciate how quickly she got to where she is rather than whine about one stream that didn't go as she expected.

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>>3945085
I don't know, but two sudden posts after a long silence, blaming viewers for shit
>>3944110
>>3944425
is pretty, dare i say it, shitty.
People are being weird about this whole shit, when chuuba says they don't want to play a psychiatrist, they will be inevitably called based, and generally appreciated for not wanting to spoil the mood, but suddenly people are acting like faggots because viewers don't want to share a responsibility for talent mental state. Especially when some shitter comes here to call you out. You are only expected to behave yourself on the broadcast, chat, and with general interactions with streamer, if something about it backfired because of some other factors, you are not to be blamed for it, and neither is chuuba. Not everything will always work out, stop being a cunt about it you unironic simps, i bet Nina can deal with this, if she was brave enough to start streaming after being a semi hikki, she can also deal with this, no amount of larping into "mfw thinking about you hurting" fantasy to feel good about yourself is gonna do anything in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

There's a brighter future ahead of us where this is all just an unpleasant half-remembered memory. Keep your head up, Anons. It'll pass.

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>>3945836
I think viewers showing her empathy is the right move - she needs the love. These cold takes ie. we are just viewers and we owe nothing to no one are also weird though, this is the /nina/ thread and I owe to Nina many hours of entertainment and memorable moments on stream. I cannot however offer more than cheering for her, some monetary support and buy her some ads on this board.

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>>3946592
Obviously it probably helps, and i don't have problem with people being kind, but i don't like how some act all uppity, as if it is your, a viewer, responsibility in any capacity. I just don't believe a relationship built on guilt and misguided sense of responsibility will end up healthy for any side. In the end we are all strangers on the internet, who am i to share a burden of someone well being on my shoulders, someone whose ultimately i only know from watching few hours a week? Obviously the reverse for chuuba is true in the same way. Work it out in any capacity you feel comfortable with, but don't feel like you owe anyone anything just because you spend few hours a week on a stream, along with ~150 others.

[Anonymous No.]

I blame numberfags for putting more emphasis on growth and views instead of just having fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>still no tweet about a stream
Guess Nina really did mean she is doing singing reps, not singing stream today after all.

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I'm a chuuba semi hikki who spends most off time supporting other chuubas. Yesterday i decided i would spend one night doing something else instead of supporting everyone. I took one last look through my long ass list of live channels, even hovering over Nina's stream and thinking "she'll be alright without me, she has 150 viewers" When i read her Twitter post i felt pretty damn bad.. But i feel like
>>3946000 Is right. Some streams just are shit but they will be forgotten.

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>>3948405
Unironically this probably was one of the causes for some being afraid of playing a video game with another person, they simply forgot the fun, because how can our ~180 viewers CEO perfect oneesan have fun playing a vidya with a sperg like me.

[Anonymous No.]

I think Nina should put up a points redeem occassiobaloy, if she wants viewers to play with her. Like, 1200 points for three rounds?

[Anonymous No.]

>One Tweet of fairly mild depression posting after 6 months of streaming
>Half the thread wants to run into a wall
You guys have been spoiled, never get an actually menhara oshii, you wouldn't last.

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>>3950793
It would make more sense if she didn't almost exclusively play a single player games, collabs and among us yesterday aside, the only other game from her recent streams where it would even be possible for someone to join in, is DaS2, and i can only see it as a headache with how multiplayer works in souls games.

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>>3951053
she also wasn't challenged in any way during those 6 months I think. At least I don't recall anything unpleasant happening to her in public. If after an event like that first think she does is sadpost on Twitter, it kinda shows she might be prone to menhera outbursts. Either way still love her streams, we all have worse days every now and then so I give her a benefit of that

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I wasn't able to watch her at all for the last 2 months due to finals month and I received a Twitter notification about yesterday's stream and JESAS, I think her expectations were a bit too high, but I'm used to menhera tweets from my JP indie I follow on her sub but still, what a bummer

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>>3951788
The biggest stretch i can muster is the fact that her peers don't really seem interact with her too much, be it streams or twitter. But it is just that, a stretch, since we don't know what happens behind the closed doors of streams, and for all we know they could interact normally in DMs/discords or whatever.

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>>3951788
Might have been a bunch of things at once, but we won't know unless she talks about it.

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>>3951788
She challenges herself plenty with collabs and her music preparations. Stalker spoke on a stream before it takes actually a whole month of practice (!!!) for a single stream. She only posts on twitter like its a week or something. Saying she was unchallenged is just not true.

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>sadpost
>menhera
I mean, come on dude, it's one tweet after 6 months of constant grinding and trying to get better (and listening to all criticisms sent) because someone got disappointed it was a bit hard to fill in lobbies, now consider that said someone suffers with anxiety and only said something to apologize because she thought it was her fault entirely, and considered the stream not good enough. Stop exaggerating the situation.
Just let the thread die since there will be a /unity/ one for saturday. This is already a fucking timeloop.

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>>3952728
you misunderstood, by "she wasn't challenged" I meant her not being in any socially akward situation on stream, for instance an argument with another streamer, someone sperging out or the mp game not going as planned/getting derailed. I know well that she's putting tons of work if it comes to streams, especially singing

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>>3952728
He clearly meant challenged as in things went not as i expected, what do i do, fuck.
I think no one would say that Nina doesn't work hard for her streams, she is our hardworking CEO and it is evident from her content.
That one tweet might just be a result of a lot of things pilling up on her. Hell, isn't she moving out in june?

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>>3952827
>>3952907
Gomen, I had frouble following that post-chain it seems.