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>> No.37929790
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.37929811

A reminder that using "livers" to refer to vtubers is absolutely retarded.

>> No.37929852
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SELAMAT PAGI MY NIGGAS

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>>37929769
Recent clip numbers
>>37877878
>>37877903
>>37877950
>>37877975
>>37878002

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What did we learn last thread, anon?

>> No.37929886

>>37929650
ID has competent management that does their job instead of a fanfic writer riding a high off one fluke (myth).

>> No.37929899
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>>37929663
I mean no wonder the brand is stagnating right now kek. The EN fans won't even demand the girl to actually do something to improve their images.

>> No.37929911
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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>110,403: Lui (Hololive)
>92,576: IRyS (Hololive)
>53,548: Miko (Hololive)
>47,595: Toya (Nijisanji)
>45,864: Reimu (Nijisanji)
>42,231: Millie (Nijisanji)
>29,991: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>29,601: Fubuki (Hololive)
>26,505: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,044: Fubuki (Hololive)
>21,856: Korone (Hololive)
>20,233: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>18,657: Lize (Nijisanji)
>16,380: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,377: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>16,207: Matsuri (Hololive)
>15,151: Lamy (Hololive)
>14,662: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>14,376: Salome (Nijisanji)
>13,713: Mio (Hololive)
>13,598: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,231: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,073: IRyS (Hololive)
>12,578: Nui (Nijisanji)
>11,768: Kobo (Hololive)
>11,272: Met (774 inc)
>11,137: NeruMero (Indie)
>10,941: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10,884: Ars (Nijisanji)
>10,293: Calliope (Hololive)

>> No.37929918

>>37929523
>>37929600
How did yagoo got out of this place so quickly? It made keeping coco was better than China. If coco was kicked out, then cover would be rich from the chinese market but they're going to bend their knees for them. If coco wasn't kicked out, the only disadvantage is not getting money from china but for 2-3 years, they're free from this kind of problem.

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>>37929852

>> No.37929963

>>37929931
kek, saved

>> No.37929970

>>37929497
She pretty much abandoned YT and now she's just another twitch streamer in the japanese FPS crowd.

>> No.37929992

>>37929886
Nice cope. The real reason is that Indonesia has very low GDP per capita and HoloID earns wayyy more than that. Beggars cant be choosers.

>> No.37930018
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>>37929911
>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine
3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live
5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,639 - Trial stream
9) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 44,737 - Yu-Gi-Oh lesson w/Orihimeboshi
10) Miko (Hololive) - 43,789 - Surgeon Simulator 2 w/Suisei
11) Flare (Hololive) - 39,662 - Shiraken accessory reveal & presentation meeting
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,770 - Fate/Grand Order
13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 41,078 - Fashion collab shilling w/Shiina, Ririmu & Fuwa
14) Lamy (Hololive) - 60,779 - NePoLaBo offcollab
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 87,608 - 3D birthday drinking party
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 53,405 - MioMikoSuba consultation office
17) Subaru (Hololive) - 47,065 - Sleepover w/Noel
18) Koyori (Hololive) - 41,567* - Mario Party w/Chloe, Marine & Korone
19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 55,196 - Yu-Gi-Oh Master Duel tournament day 1
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 110,897 - 4th anniversary 3D live
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53,522 - Pokemon Scarlet w/QED
22) Korone (Hololive) - 88,503 - 3D birthday live
23) Akabane (Nijisanji) - 122,903 - Ex-Gamers 3D live
24) Noel (Hololive) - 88,526 - 3D birthday live
25) Pekora (Hololive) - 50,264 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
26) Laplus (Hololive) - 82,146 - 1st anniversary 3D live
27) Lui (Hololive) - 110,403 - 1st anniversary 3D live

>PER COMPANY
22x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
3x: Subaru
2x: Kuzuha, Lamy, Suisei
1x: Akabane, Flare, Korone, Koyori, Laplus, Lui, Marine, Miko, Mio, Nijisanji, Noel, Yashiro

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
217x: Hololive
101x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
51x: Pekora
21x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
17x: Aqua
16x: Salome, Subaru
15x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Noel
4x: Korone, Koyori, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>> No.37930034

>>37929931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8wrqe72YG4

>> No.37930066

>>37929886
Sure, but ultimately it's dumb to blame the state of EN on there being not enough streamers. If streamer count and streamed hours mattered NijiJP would mog HoloJP twice over in every single metric.

>> No.37930071

>>37929899
>I hope she doesn't do this thing that's a bit selfish and negatively impacts her coworker's most important stream since debut again in the future
>FUCK OFF STOP TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO

I see Ame has trained Teamates well

>> No.37930083

The people who think China is "done" because of the protests don't remember 1989.
The people made a deal with the devil that year: economic growth for limited freedoms. If the massacre didn't rile the nation up into revolt, nothing will.

>> No.37930090

>>37929876
Nijifags are the most cucked fanbase

>> No.37930091

Is IRyS a permanent 10k chuuba now??

>> No.37930110
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Ame sooo cuuteee!

>> No.37930126

>>37930091
It could be higher if it weren't such a shit game.

>> No.37930147

>>37929992
So Omega and EN management don't get paid enough? BLACK COMPANY???

>> No.37930158

>>37930091
RE4 would be great to stream but she'd rather wait for the remake.

>> No.37930161

>>37930110
NUMBERS?

>> No.37930180

>>37930083
desu, I wouldv've chosen the same thing. I can't think of myself living in conditions like SEA whereas my neighboring countries are developed already.

>> No.37930183

>>37929899
> -82 updoots
Reddit being based for once

>> No.37930199

>>37929899
>Someone politely voicing their dissastifaction with how Ame just straight up overlapping her coworker's most hyped stream
>IT'S NOT YOUR GODDAMN BUSINESS
there's no saving teacucks, huh?

>> No.37930201

>>37930091
Come back when the rest of holoen overlaps her. Oh wait, she'll avoid it by just not streaming.

>> No.37930203

>>37930083
The difference back then is you had a concentrated group of mostly younger people instead of a largely diffused one
The CCP has no real options here besides either backing down, making them appear weak and vulnerable to popular movements, or to crack down at a scale that's unprecedented for even their regime to date.

>> No.37930216

>>37930083
China? protests? 1989? I don't know what you are talking about anon, there's never been such a thing

>> No.37930219

>>37929918
Billii2 needed to get Cover out of China to debut their own Vtubers

>> No.37930220

>>37930083
CCP will eradicate all the protesters. But I just want to see what kind of new rule on b2 to restrict foreigner company and vtuber

>> No.37930222

>>37930091
Nope. But she often gets that much, like the rest of Council+ does.

>> No.37930234

>>37929876
Never trust any anon who says he's a very 'feminine femboy'. He could have bunions and fungi in his feet.

>> No.37930235

>>37930066
But there is a critical amount needed, and while nine works for ID ten is not enough for EN. Partially because of how spread out they are

>> No.37930240

>>37930161
7.5k baby !

>> No.37930243

ame's numbers jumped by like 2000 while she was singing never gonna give you up, did someone raid her as a joke?

>> No.37930267

>>37930216
Based. Here is your 2 Social Credit point and Bing Chilling

>> No.37930270

>>37929918
new rrat video "How Coco saved Hololive from the downfall of China"

>> No.37930284

>>37929899
yesmates...

>> No.37930304

>>37930216
Based keep it wolf warriors gang!

>> No.37930323

>>37930235
Sounds like American exceptionalism.

>> No.37930336

>>37929899
based

>> No.37930338

>>37929918
Their actual business entanglements with China weren't that deep. Basically consisted of the rebroadcasting channels for their talents on bilibili and the CN branch. They released the CN branch form their contracts and essentially abandoned all the bilibili accounts and that was that.

>> No.37930339

>>37930243
Yes, a decade old meme raided her

>> No.37930379

cmon ame, end your stream so Iwys can finally get her 11k

>> No.37930381

>HoloEN x StarsEN last collab was 2 weeks ago
What happened? They were doing 3 to 4 collabs a week for 3 months and suddenly they've completely stopped?

>inb4 Vesper suspension
They stopped before his suspension and even if that would be true why would the suspension of one talent affect collabs with the others? Oh and ID are still collabing with Stars as usual, it's just on the EN side.

>> No.37930403

>>37930147
they need to buy their weekly fursuits after all

>> No.37930416

>>37930381
Vesper slapped Gura in front of Yagoo

>> No.37930420

>>37930034
Kek classic

>> No.37930429

>There are only about 4000 teamates left
GRIM

>> No.37930436

>>37930180
It was a double-edged sword. China has lifted more people out of poverty in the past 50 years than any other nation in the history of the world. At the same time, people are "brainwashed" into unironically believing they have a democracy. They view the American two-party system as retarded and counterintuitive to growth, and they're right. More bureaucracy always = more inefficiency. But the problem is that there is no accountability for the government. There was an incident in Beijing a few years ago where the storm drains were completely fucked and a few neighborhoods were flooded as a result, leading to 77 deaths. No one in the local government was charged for negligence.

>> No.37930437

Man, I wish Yogiri was still around.

>> No.37930442

>>37930381
JP management being interfering little shits again instead of respecting the autonomy of the EN branch

>> No.37930446

>>37929899
>Maybe she shouldn't do stupid shit that negatively affects her co-workers at the job she is literally payed to do
>NO SHE CAN DO WHATEVER SHE WANTS IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A JOB OR ANYTHING
Drooling morons.

>> No.37930451

>>37930381
>ey were doing 3 to 4 collabs a week for 3 months
Is that even true? It sure felt like that at times but honestly, that can't be true.

>> No.37930463

Will Koyori slip to Pekora?

>> No.37930472

Irys still 10k

>> No.37930480

>>37930083
Lol this protests are so small scale. The western news just lives anything to make China look weak. Fuck the protesters I saw were singing "L'Internationale"

>> No.37930503

>>37930416
*Vesper ass fucked Yagoo in front of Gura

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>>37930243
It's a mutilated Z.

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list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Sayu Okami https://twitter.com/SayuOkami
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>LexParteVT https://twitter.com/LexParteVT
>AisRiale https://twitter.com/AisRiale
>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Juliet Winters https://twitter.com/juiietwinters
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeari
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 duel wave with Iluna
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

>> No.37930540

>>37930472
Let me fix that.

>> No.37930552

>>37930381
Maybe Jp finally noticed and told them to shove a rusty fork up their urethra

>> No.37930564

>>37930442
I hope so

>> No.37930569

>>37930451
Of course that isn't true.

>> No.37930594

>>37930416
90s sitcom tier. What really happened was Gura was caught late last night in discord chat with Vesper helping her with her PC problems. Kronii came in drunk and full of jealous rage bitching her out. Vesper called management to stop them and he got the blame for the mess.

>> No.37930598

>>37930451
If you count random Kobo FPS collabs maybe.

>> No.37930607
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>>37930480

>> No.37930621

>>37929899
Based leddit bro's making troons seethe

>> No.37930624

>unarchived karaoke
>Not even close to 10k
How dead is Myth? Or is it just Ame?

>> No.37930626

Now that I think about it, why hasn't starsJP be invited to the streamer servers? Why only Nijisanji, some VSPO members and JP twitch streamers?

>> No.37930639

>>37930463
No one cares about fate tourists Pekora can get a 200k FGO stream and they will all disappear the following morning when she goes back to pokemon. The question for Koyori is will she get 100k or not? Monday + no guest list might be rough, but she is the biggest HooX as of late so maybe.

>> No.37930640

>>37930090
*nijicucks
Ftfy

>> No.37930643

>Blue just fucking barely floating above 3 view
>On Cyberpunk, a game that used to be a buff for him
They only get worse, neve better.

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>>37930442

>> No.37930658

>>37929899
>they can do whatever they want
I hope this faggot's oshi graduates

>> No.37930664

>>37930624
Just Ame. Also IRyS is holding a lot of tourists

>> No.37930691

>>37930183
My ESL is telling me that the one with showing some concerns of overlap event but still trying to find excuse for Ame getting mass downvote?
Overlapping events is not forbid in Hololive (except for the new debut rule) but the ones with a bad tone saying "They can do anything they want" without providing any more context getting upvotes? And people reply with more lame ass joke?

>> No.37930694

>>37930624
I'd argue this is true for most of Myth excluding Gura (who likely has a similar dropoff but started from a significantly higher ceiling) and Ina (who could likely bring back solid numbers if she just came back from the dead).

>> No.37930699

>lamy started
Rip irys

>> No.37930700

>>37930598
Ehhhh Kobo mostly only collabed with Regis. Oh, and her last collab with him was almost a month ago.

>> No.37930706

>>37930626
Because they're irrelevant. Aren't those streamer servers all about clout farming? What the fuck do they want some 500 ccv shitters for?

>> No.37930710

>>37930624
Irys is at 10k with outlast, it's just the #ameway

>> No.37930717

>>37930381
>barely 2 weeks without a Homostar collab and ENfags already think they're gone forever
lmao was it that bad for you guys?

>> No.37930753

Is it just me or Ame is trying to sabotage IRyS incline phase?

>> No.37930764

Ame has snowflake syndrome, she doesn't want to follow trends, traditions or rules, she wants her stream to be a unique experience also known as the ameway. That's why she is trying out all sort of thing, all new idea leading to her nickname of creatividad.
But who can fault her? Without it, she has nothing, she can't sing, can't dance, shit gaming, not the best talker, not the best voice and asmr, she has no talents

>> No.37930765

>>37930451
Nah it was like 1 a week. Maybe 2 and then theyd go a week without one. Then another one. Ames dumb tournament made it seem more spammy than it was. She even considered doing a losers bracket kek

>> No.37930767

>>37930643
As it turns out, banishing your branch's top viewership draw and most consistent streamer to the shadow realm for two weeks has a negative impact on the branch as a whole

>> No.37930782

Backstreet boys letss GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!

>> No.37930819

>>37930753
She is sent by Omega to sabotage the CGDCT group

>> No.37930848

>>37930764
I enjoyed watching her perfectly fine when she wasn't fixated on "ameway" and was just herself having a good time with friends, and it's been a while since I've cared since.

>> No.37930850

>>37930767
You should tell him that so he doesn't do something stupid enough to get suspended again.

>> No.37930854

One of mainland aqua crew is literally joining the protest while other taiwan aquacrew is telling him to stay home and save money to gtfo china. Also people can tolerate all the ccp shit because they guarantee at least good life but not when they are now poorfags and being forced to die due to lockdowns. Winnie the pooh can easily calm the riot by easing lockdowns but is he smart or stubborn?

>> No.37930860

>>37930764
Looking forward to her upcoming le creativedad contents!

>> No.37930877

>>37930203
It's far more likely they will do the latter. China has a trend of getting together for a few decades and then fracturing into multiple weaker nations, who then become puppet states for stronger world powers (see: Opium Wars). The CCP understands this and is trying to stop such an event from happening under any circumstance. Pulling a 1989 in the modern era would be unthinkable to most in the West, but in the East, it's not that farfetched. Just look at what happened to the Uyghurs with the whole world knowing what's going on. No one gives a shit because China is too economically dominant now to fall without causing a massive global recession the likes of which would make the Great Depression look like a pebble in a pond.

>> No.37930891

>>37930691
Nah, the guy with 80 downvotes tried to voice his displeasure about how Ame just overlapping her colleague's big stream like that.

The one who got upvoted are the "yesmen" of the fanbase, basically the majority of holo subreddit population at this point

>> No.37930909

>>37930753
Ame is always like this man, she streams whatever she wants whenever she wants and overlaps whoever she wants. It hurts her more than anyone else, she's not targeting IRyS in particular. These days Ame is the smaller player, outside of her creatividad events.

>> No.37930926

>>37930071
Twitchfags like Ludwig did the job for her with the whole parasocial meme

>> No.37930961

>>37930767
Vesper's suspension also killed the soulocke and slow done any excitement for DnD p2

>> No.37930969

Fauna needs to stream more. Saplings are spreading like fleas
>>>/sp/125970555

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>He fell

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https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1597071218213277696
HOMOCHADS KEEP WINNING

>> No.37931011

>>37930909
What was her most creative content lately btw? Worms tourney?

>> No.37931019

>>37929970
I've heard rrats that she's joining vshojo JP or something

>> No.37931025

>>37930158
>The best RE game by far
>No one wants to play it because of the upcoming remake
>Remake is 4 months away
Just… play it…. Onegai.. No one will be bothered when it’s nearly half a year away still and it’s being remade anyways

>> No.37931055

>>37930854
China is on a timebomb anyway. They have tons of single poor males who will never have a partner. That's dangerous as fuck because they have nothing to lose and their lives are miserable. That's riot and rebellion material there.

>> No.37931068

>>37930961
also apparently killed Mori's "HoloPro" tournament since Blue fag chose to join StarsJP tourney and confirmed he won't be joining the Mori's one, kek

>> No.37931088

>>37930877
Yes, I agree with that. I have trouble seeing the CCP backing down now, doubly so since I think they're very well aware that China in its current state is probably at the height of its strength and influence and will only be able to trend downwards as demographics finally catch up with their workforce.

If the CCP is going to make any extremely harsh moves for their own security and future, now would be the moment they'd feel most pressured to.


Virtual youtuber numbers.

>> No.37931091

>>37930995
No Tempus?

>> No.37931125

I want Gura to pull an Ame one day and just overlap irys mid stream just to see what happens

>> No.37931134
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>>37930018
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
211x: Hololive
103x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
49x: Pekora
31x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
21x: Marine
14x: Subaru
12x: Suisei
11x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Fubuki, Hololive
6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya
5x: Aqua
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui


>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
213x: Hololive
99x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
5x: Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
34x: Miko
33x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
27x: Kuzuha
16x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Okayu
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Hal, Korone, Lamy, Mori, Suisei
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki, Shion
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>> No.37931135

>>37931091
Tempus is HoloEN, after all.

>> No.37931148

>>37930995
No Tempus, side branch..

>> No.37931174

>>37931134
I like how you just removed irys silver 2 threads ago and act like i wouldn't notice kys

>> No.37931178

>>37931068
Wasn't vesper originally on the Apex tournament?

>> No.37931181

>>37931125
Even in guerilla Gura pretty much sticks to the same timezone for 2 years, so it will be more of the case that the other girls overlapping her timeslot.

Different case with Ame where she seems to deliberately choose the timeslot with someone in it kek

>> No.37931207
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37931207

>>37930995
>No Tempus

>> No.37931213

Can gura make holoEN great again?

>> No.37931217

>>37931135
>>37931148
>>37931148
>>37931135
EN management being retarded and fucking over all EN branches... this is unity.

>> No.37931245

>>37930995
>Tempus excluded from HoloEN
>Also excluded from StarsJP
HOLY KEK

>> No.37931247

>>37930066
Yeah, no numberfagging measure matters because ignoring everything else still results in shit numbers...?

There's a point where debuting too many people start cannibalizing each other *gestures broadly at Niji* but HoloEN's in the opposite extreme where fucking nothing's happening (and way fewer streams) so people are tuning out. That is absolutely the correct time to debut a new gen, if only so something actually happens. The people are still there - that's why IRyS can still pull 90k+ despite everything else going to shit, or why the Myth's Bad Ending animation blew past 1m views - but fuck all is currently being done to keep them engaged. And just to repeat it, Stars count as nothing because pausing ALL the girls does nothing to help them, and debuting them is either no benefit or possibly a cause of mass recline. So sayeth the numbers.

>> No.37931249

>>37930995
>instead of following Omega's personal twitter that is HoloProEN twitter which is full of tempiss retweet, you should just follow Hololivetv twitter instead, it's JP and separated from Holostar, they don't tweet or retweet the hom-

>> No.37931259
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37931259

>>37930877
>Pulling a 1989 in the modern era would be unthinkable to most in the West, but in the East, it's not that farfetched.
Sisi got his troops to shoot and kill a cool THOUSAND protesters, with live television coverage and real time Twitter and Facebook commentary and I GUARANTEE this will be a surprise for many here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_2013_Rabaa_massacre
Funny thing? He is still the president of Egypt and holds full international support
Second funny thing? It happened on the same day Assad supposedly gassed people in Ghouta, which became the banner the west used to demonize him and justify direct intervention.
Even in the most exaggerated accounts, less than 300 people died in said massacre.

Xi could machine gun the protesters in broad daylight and if the western media and governments don’t want to rock the boat, he wouldn’t face ANY repercussions, exactly like current president of Egypt

>> No.37931275

>>37931178
Yeah, Altare was his stand in because it happened after his suspension.

>> No.37931308

>>37931245
>Try to play both sides
>End up fitting in with neither

>> No.37931325

>>37931125
Gura streams at the same hour every single time. If she overlaps you, its your fault

>> No.37931346

>>37930436
I mean, I'm SEA and desu I'd rather have stability than whatever the hell "Democracy" offers, consider what they have done with the region

>> No.37931360

>>37931249
Who are you quoting, the voices in your head?

>> No.37931366

>>37929744
I do you one better: Newer gens come out with a roadmap and budget to push them on their first year, regardless of performance. This is why shitters like Uproar get a limo/ads & 3D. HoloX got a New Years outfit right after debut (that was obviously in the works since before debut), and now they also have 3D and idol outfits. And then there's EN3. They shouldn't be, but unfortunately EN culture is a thing.

>> No.37931406

>>37930607
Pekora, you might want to check yourself before making that statement kek

>> No.37931423

>>37931346
Have fun dealing with China, Nguyen

>> No.37931457

>>37931245
Tempus is too yab for StarsJP, they can't have their image damaged.

>> No.37931499

>>37931245
A-At least they still have ID right?

>> No.37931562

>>37931275
He was carrying the branch. Hope he figures out a way say why he was suspended that won't kill his reputation

>> No.37931597

>>37931259
>and if the western media and governments don’t want to rock the boat, he wouldn’t face ANY repercussions
Guess what? The western media and governments would love to rock the boat

>> No.37931677

>>37930403
>Furries
>Tempus manager-san.webm
It all makes sense now...

>> No.37931693

>>37931562
kek, hoping for a “suspended for being TOO BASED” escape hatch and a hero’s welcome?

>> No.37931751

>Ame said she will end
>Doesn't end
Man, sex with her would be a fucking nightmare

>> No.37931752

>>37931346
To be honest, I can't 100% blame you. My history teacher told me something once that still sticks with me: no one cares about democracy if you can't put food on the table.

>> No.37931757

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE HOMOS TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE

>> No.37931780
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37931780

Status?

>> No.37931782

>>37931562
>I apologize for my actions, it isn't right to pester Pekora and Miko to collab with each other dozens of times and DM them yuri PekoMiko fanart

>> No.37931783

>>37930594
I can buy this rrat.

>> No.37931785

Saplings really are the most loyal fanbase huh? They watch and sc to her no matter what she streams.

>> No.37931786

>>37931247
>They're entertainers, streaming is enough
I''m willing to bet this is what's EN management thinks. Fucking dumbass, through and through

>> No.37931823

>>37931597
That was the bet of the Egyptian protestors
>what he’s going to do, shoot us?
>Arab Spring baby! The revolution WILL be televised!
Very few people still remember the aging Kong protests and nobody followed up to know what happened to the protestors

>> No.37931844

>>37930531
It's been 4 months since iluna debut copypastaanon, I don't think there is going to be dual wave. Maybe Riku finally got it through his head accelerating was starving his talent. Or maybe he's petty enough to hold them back until EN3 is announced.

>> No.37931860

>>37931693
Yep. While it killed interest in Tempiss right now, expect numbers when he comes back. This is only going to bring more attention and "positive vibes" for their upcoming 4 way collabs. Theyre gonna be coddled even more by their fanbase and tourists. Unless he actually got Rushia'd. Kek

>> No.37931859
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37931859

>>37931751
Ame won't let me go home until she drains my balls dry

>> No.37931873

>>37931785
She loves them and in turn they loves her back. Simple as.

>> No.37931883

>>37931785
That used to be every fanbase for EN.

>> No.37931894

>>37931213
Change in management would do that

>> No.37931907

>>37930700
You might want to check if you missed any unarchived valorant because I won't

>> No.37931930

>>37931751
I know you want to compete with her but now is not the time ame. Stop being selfish la dad.

>> No.37931952

>>37931423
My brother in Christ what do you think we've been doing for the last 2000 years?
Yanks only had to deal with them for like, what, half a decades? And they already scratching their head on wtf did they do wrong

>> No.37931967

>>37931597
>rock the boat
Doubt it. This is China we're talking about. If China collapses so does the global economy.

>> No.37931991

>>37931785
https://youtu.be/xoZNrulIjwU?t=1094

>> No.37931992

>>37931780
Wamy slot?

>> No.37931994

>>37930850
Just blame it on idol culture. I dunno how. Figure it out, giftcardkeks

>> No.37931999

>>37931860
Imagine the last day of his suspension and all of the vesties waiting for his return. Only to get a notification announcing Verspers termination kek

>> No.37932013

>>37931823
The difference here is that the west would love nothing more than to flip the current Chinese regime while they didn't really care for flipping Egypt beyond what they had already put in place previously

>> No.37932021

>>37931346
Your ancestor is severly dissapointed in you ahmad

>> No.37932058
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37932058

>>37931999
Reminds me of this

>> No.37932087

>>37931752
It's not just that
They fucking tried to advertise "Democracy"
>By fucking siding with the colonial French
Like, I know we're kinda dumb, but we're not THAT fucking dumb

Also Matuli in Ame's chat

>> No.37932097

I'm late. Did IRyS seriously manage to not slip against an unarchived Myth Karaoke? Fucking how?

>> No.37932107

So... Vesper's comeback stream CCV?

>> No.37932112

>>37930877
Didn't Korea do something similar in 1980s, some mass shooting towards protestors. Can't remember Japan's situation, a lot peaceful I think but the tension between people and the government was pretty high back then.

>> No.37932124

The Fauna Among Us VOD views aren't looking good

>> No.37932127
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37932127

>>37931860
There is a third option, the same as the first you mentioned except they lose the good will of the girls and the girls audience.
That would force them to look for alternatives to foster their growth because without the girls they’re withering and dying a slow death.

Here is the 30 data chart for Tempus. They’re on a slide right into 3 digits, the only variable now is how long it would take.

>> No.37932135

>>37931883
Untill they decided to betray the loyal CGDCTKings and never stream

>> No.37932144

>>37930624
Listening to someone be shit at singing is only interesting for so long and Ame had a shitton of karaoke with 0 improvement

>> No.37932167
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37932167

my cute wife

>> No.37932171

>>37932112
Only thing I remember from Japan was that some dude just shanked a Communist leader live

>> No.37932173

>>37932097
Because this is only late 2022 Ame.

>> No.37932174

Matsuri in ame's chat also 8k getto

>> No.37932200

>>37932124
Nah it makes sense. She didn't get much churn because she didn't get imposter until the end in the hide and seek. Guess most her fans just didn't leave her POV even after she died and just chilled with her.

>> No.37932214

>>37932058
I-i cant laugh at this . . .

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37932221

>>37932058
poor things...

>> No.37932224

>>37931999
If he actually did shit and the suspension was just a cover for investigating to make sure they didn't fire him over something false like I think it is, that's exactly what will happen.

>> No.37932255

>>37932107
Drama buff could be big

>> No.37932311

>>37932167
TELL AME TO STOP OVERLAPPING AND COLLAB WITH HAACHAMA!

>> No.37932335

IRyS' large heaving breasts have been on full display for the entire stream. Take notes Kronii.

>> No.37932379

>>37931860
>Yep. While it killed interest in Tempiss right now
People already lost interest with them even before Vesper's suspension. Fagni is 2k chuba now. Vesper's last zatsu was 2.2k. Axel and Altare already flirted with 3views peak and only saved by raids. Their box is getting smaller and smaller and now it's only 5-6k on event stream.

It's already looking grim before shit went down with Vesper.

>> No.37932384

>>37931860
>>37931562
He most likely wont say anything due to NDA. Maybe he'll make a generic statement that he argued with management and that he was wrong but he's not allowed to say more about it and that's it.

>> No.37932448

>>37932379
>Their box is getting smaller and smaller and now it's only 5-6k on event stream.
At least the pre-Luxiem NijiEN box was 8k.

>> No.37932457
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37932457

So how are we feeling today nijizhangs?

>> No.37932462
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37932462

BEGONE YOU SUCCUBUS

>> No.37932490
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37932490

>>37932457

>> No.37932499

>>37932384
>generic statement that he argued with management and that he was wrong but he's not allowed to say more about it and that's it.
That’s the TOO BASED theory. He wouldn’t have ate a 2 weeks suspension for arguing with management. His gen mates would openly rebel and drop hints that’s the case and the girls would go to bat for him.

>> No.37932526

>>37931562
Maybe he should take a page out of Rushia's playbook and do the exact opposite.

>> No.37932529

>>37932499
Anon, you're implying that the girl give a shit, and they're under the same management

>> No.37932560

>>37932462
I can't stop looking at her. Literally the cutest thing in the world.

>> No.37932587

>>37932499
It doesn't matter what the truth is if no one says it. He could make up a lie and Cover may let it slide.

>> No.37932594

>>37932526
I mean, was there any dramafag's vid about the suspension?
If not, then I say that he's still in the green, for now

>> No.37932627

>>37930995
We escaped from Tempus being forced in halloween ideas....will we escape from Tempus in the Christmas streams?

>> No.37932644

>>37932379
They don't offer anything interesting from the thousands of other male vtubers. Other than pissing off and ruining their goodwill with their brotubers audience, they have been making all the wrong moves.

>> No.37932670

>>37932167
KEKAROOO

>> No.37932680
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Japs are touristing /here/ a lot lately. They saw the thread about unicorn friendly holos, and one of them did their own. Thoughts?

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37932705

I haven't listen to any holoEN songs in months and I'm not subscribed to mori, is it normal to see shit like this in recommends?

>> No.37932711

Oh, IRyS featured on today's AsaMio

>> No.37932719

>>37932627
Don't worry, I'm sure one of the retarded girls will try proposing the idea of a mixed gender valentines stream.

>> No.37932734

>>37932680
stop posting in 5ch, screenshoting your own post and coming back to post it again

>> No.37932738

>>37932335
IRyS is hilarious. If you watch her model adjusting you can literally see her make sure her model has her fat tits out for everyone to see

>> No.37932772
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37932772

>>37932560
Damn, love really is blind.

>> No.37932780
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37932780

in other words ame loves me~

>> No.37932797

>>37932680
>Virgin cook
My fucking sides

>> No.37932818

>>37932680
what's the deal with the aqua placement

>> No.37932820

>>37930642
What manga is this girl from

>> No.37932826

>>37932680
>Shion in the bottom rank

>> No.37932851

>>37932680
>Fauna and Mumei are unicorn friendly
>They don't know...

>> No.37932855

>>37932627
>We escaped from Tempus being forced in halloween ideas...
>Memoryholed the weremags stream
kek

>> No.37932918

>>37932627
After the yab? No chance, it just strengthen the no homo girls.

>> No.37932920

>>37932680
Shion...

>> No.37932926

>>37932772
shut up and go suck those ojisans' cocks, zion

>> No.37932932

>>37932680
Why Shion is in "exception" in the bottom chart?

>> No.37932995

>>37932680
After doing your reps the only purely Unicorn friendly holos are Chloe and Kanata. Maybe Lui.

>> No.37933001

>>37932780
We know, Regis, we know

>> No.37933014

>IRyS 10K for 3hrs straight
>This aint just tourist now right?

>> No.37933046

>>37932680
Great. They took an obvious troll post as our actual thoughts on the matter.

>> No.37933050

>>37932932
Because of this
https://i.imgur.com/3QMdDTO.png

>> No.37933059

>>37933014
It's been one fucking day retard

>> No.37933073

>>37932820
Looks like Big Order

>> No.37933079

>>37933014
She's still buffed + low overlap doesn't count

>> No.37933081

>>37932680
>Shion on her own tier
FUCKING BASED

>> No.37933093
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37933093

>Ame had a beautiful mass appealing model from the start and was #2 behind Gura in Hololive at one point
Someone needs to do a case study on Ames decline. It's unreal.

>> No.37933097

>>37932335
She even moved it to make sure she's showing just enough cleavage.
She know what she's doing.

>> No.37933098

>>37932797
I guess it's "處女廚" in kanji, still funny though.

>> No.37933105

>>37932780
Is she singing to Ragus again?

>> No.37933115

>>37932995
actually retarded

>> No.37933140

>>37933046
but that post is also a troll to shit on Shion.

>> No.37933143

>>37933014
Tourists are becoming Irystocrats as we speak.

>> No.37933152

>>37933079
>Getting overlapped by BLue Lamy is considered "Big Overlapped"

>> No.37933196

>>37933152
he specifically said low overlap you retard

>> No.37933208

>>37933093
How is it unreal when she herself told her fans to fuck off?

>> No.37933212

>>37933093
The only reason she was #2 was because of Gura. In a way, distancing herself from Gura was smart, because if she didn't form her own identity, she'd be absolutely fucked right now since Gura is MIA.

>> No.37933258

>>37933115
How so? No evidence of ever talking to a male outside of family for Kanata and Chloe. All or nothing, you can't have someone's roommate talking to males and still have them be unicorn friendly.

>> No.37933305

>>37933093
I'm more impressed that someone who has been so actively confrontational with her own viewership has still managed to retain the portion she has to date.

>> No.37933325

>>37933305
teamates are whipped

>> No.37933331

>>37932995
>Chloe
anon... get back to reps

>> No.37933361

>>37933331
No proof. Don't tell me you're the guy who always says she has had many abortions.

>> No.37933368

>>37933325
It's not like chumbies are any better lmao

>> No.37933382

>>37933258
>A unicorn friendly chuuba is now defined as a chuuba who has never talked to a non-family male
It's going to get to the point where unicorns will only watch AI chuubas because a chuuba born from a man's sperm is disgusting and means she interacted with males.

>> No.37933397

>>37933361
>she has had many abortions.
all me

>> No.37933410

>>37933368
I didn't say they were though kek

>> No.37933436

>>37933382
>unicorns will only watch AI chuubas
Programmed with males on staff means she is a whore.

>> No.37933483

>>37933258
of course there is, do you think all the mixers, illustrators, riggers or producers they talk to are all female or something
if they've ever commissioned an illustration to a male artist, they've been on discord with them

>> No.37933492

So who are takos watching if anyone at all?

>> No.37933527

>>37933492
Seems they're spread everywhere. I've seen a couple takos member to Fauna though.

>> No.37933531

>>37933436
She can't have male viewers because she would be a whore too

>> No.37933540

>>37933093
>annoying voice
>tell your fans to fuck off multiple times
>play abject dogshit
>act like a condescending cunt to your viewers as standard
>have zero personality or interests outside basic white bitch shitshit
>can't sing
>multiple burnout arcs despite being mid in terms of output because she can't behave like an adult and sort her fucking shitfire of a life out
is it any reason why cute and appealling chuubas like Fauna and IRyS inclined while she became a shitter?

>> No.37933544

>>37933492
They all died by now anon.

>> No.37933564

>>37933436
Ah shit. Are there even enough women programmers in the world to make an AI chuuba? Well, I guess it'd still be disgusting because the women came from men too. Cover desperately needs to create a nirvana algorithm that generates a program which will generate a program to generate chuubas. tt must be 100% self-sufficient and sustainable on AI.

>> No.37933576

Roberu said his Christmas stream this year will be a collab with polka and some guests!

>> No.37933578

IRyS has been holding ~10k this whole time
she's buffed now

>> No.37933595

>>37933492
Takos have become food for the japanese street vendors

>> No.37933655

>>37933436
Everyone is a whore nowadays

>> No.37933661

>>37933544
>>37933595
I like how 99% of the board has accepted she has unofficially graduated.

>> No.37933666

>>37933564
>AI Chuuba
Kek reminds me of what Fauna said yesterday on how she'd never actually be able to watch them because there's no parasocial aspect and that would suck

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37933705

my wifes being cute, what is your oshi doing today anons

>> No.37933730

>>37933661
If Ina is like Sana then she would make more than in holo with her drawings

>> No.37933735

>>37933661
The board has accepted her death anon not graduation

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37933766

>>37933578
>still less than her zatsu
That buff is going away rather quick though

>> No.37933785

>>37933661
I mean, the writing is on the wall. She even said in one of her Elden Ring streams that she doesn't see herself as a good streamer. Sound similar to another artist chuuba?

>> No.37933800

>>37933705
Mogging your oshi in numbers apparently. Unarchived karoake vs an outlast stream, Ame should not have lost that

>> No.37933826

>>37933483
They use go betweens. They do not speak to the males personally.

>> No.37933827

>>37933578
It's almost like she had a huge event recently

>> No.37933829

>>37933735
If *insert most of the girls* didn't die then it's possible that Ina is still alive

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37933830

grim

>> No.37933855

>>37933826
ahahahaha

>> No.37933856

>>37933705
currently watching your wife , my mistress :3 it's her "last song" bdw fr fr kek

>> No.37933871

>>37933800
why not? irys is riding a redesign interest bump playing horror vs. unarchived karaoke #48 from a terrible singer

>> No.37933899

>>37933830
Who’s your oshi?

>> No.37933925

>>37933855
It's true. All holos are virgins but only a few have been smart enough to never talk to males in private.

>> No.37933926

>>37933899
Towa

>> No.37933928

>>37933830
Do you want your oshi/family member to die anon? why are shitting on watamage ?

>> No.37933962

>>37933826
I genuinely cannot believe anyone is this retarded.

>> No.37933997
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37933997

I can't get enough of IRyS model, seriously striked a diamond.
Probable the best looking model in entire Hololive for me. Also the rigging is top notch!

>> No.37934031

>>37933997
Wrong thread

>> No.37934086

>>37933997
She definitely got that HoloX treatment. The new models they've been coming out with recently are fire.
And then you have Gura's model...

>> No.37934095

>>37933997
I love that she's eternally smug now.

>> No.37934104

>>37933997
right thread King

>> No.37934112

>>37933093
What’s Ame’s current rank among EN looking like?

>> No.37934129

>>37933997
right thread, this is the beginning of her comeback arc for stream numbers

>> No.37934146

>>37934086
Gura is being punished for not streaming.

>> No.37934181

>>37934112
In-terms of streaming, she's only above Kiara, Mori and Rrat.

>> No.37934202

You know, I saw a recommended clip of a Roberu clip (I didn’t watch it) and realized something when I looked at his model.
Unique art styles can be really appealing, especially if you want to see more art styles that aren’t as strictly close to the orthodox moe styles. If you’re really that interested in seeing something in terms of art, I can see why someone would like IRyS’s original design.
I mean, I don’t. I think it was awful. But I can see how a lot of the people saying “soulless” weren’t just baiting.

>> No.37934214

>>37933093
she lost the being-gura's-sidekick buff long ago, anon

>> No.37934218

>>37932855
I like to ignore it because Magni was malicious enough to have just Mori in it just so people would go "oooooh I wonder what EN girls will be in it" and have the "Holopro" title

>> No.37934270

>>37934202
Her redesign still manages to come across as a unique artstyle while being an objective improvement for a vtuber compared to the original.

>> No.37934298
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37934298

>>37934086
There's nothing wrong with Gura's model.

>> No.37934304

>>37934112
Ame, Kiara, and Mori make up the washed up trio.

>> No.37934324

>>37934181
Jesus she really did drive off alot of her fans. I wonder who ex teammates migrated to. Anyone here an ex teammate and if so who’s your new oshi?

>> No.37934362

>2nd most subbed nijien female
>runt of ethrya now
ninabros what happened...

>> No.37934384

>>37934324
they went to the gym

>> No.37934394

>>37934298
At least she owns it now, but she got fucked over so hard. I'm glad her rigger is pretty much soft graduated already.

>> No.37934404
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37934404

Ame is singing the cute japanese song thingy let's goooo

>> No.37934408

>>37934304
I think dumping 60% of your "fans" in a few months puts Mumei at the head of that particular pack.

>> No.37934439

>>37934298
The fact that the artist couldn't even be bothered to make her eyelashes opaque is baffling. You can fucking see her eyes through them.

>> No.37934462

I'm actually shocked that people see actually criticize Gura for her lack of communication and not instantly getting downvoted.

>> No.37934467

>Fauna
6k floor, 2-6k tourists
>Kronii
4k floor, 4-10k tourists
>Mumei
4k floor, 2-10k tourists
>Bae
2k floor, 3-8k tourists

>> No.37934505

>>37934324
I'm an ex-Teamate that now has Reine as my oshi.

Reine is the exact kind of riffing with chat that I originally liked with Ame, before it morphed into genuinely confrontational.

>> No.37934534

Indog market is so worthless holy shit

>> No.37934535

>>37933997
Agreed, she is so fucking cute and she finally has a model that matches her personality. I'm in love.

>> No.37934551

>>37934505
Around when did you jump ship? Was it the improve yourself thing or before then?

>> No.37934555

>>37934467
Grim...

>> No.37934561

>>37934394
which rigger would actually be fit for Gura? because i don't think 100% everyone liked Risu's 2.0

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37934566

>>37934324
I wonder if they thought twitter support was real support and that going to war with their original fans was actually gonna make things better. Did they think they were some kind of Susan B. Anthony of vtubing fighting the evil unicorn empire?

>> No.37934568

>>37934462
You can only ghost your fans and then promise to be better at communication so many times before they start holding you accountable.

>> No.37934589

>>37934462
well i guess people are getting fed up with her shit

>> No.37934605

>>37934304
>the washed up trio.
But all three of those members are highly active.

>> No.37934638

>>37934551
Well before "improve yourself" or Tempus was even on the map.

>> No.37934637

>>37933997
Agreed. She has the potential to be EN Chloe if she leans more on GFE.

>> No.37934640
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>>37934534
Can't be indo market if they don't speak indonesian at all

>> No.37934658

>>37933997
>You have to collab with EN3
>Picrel

>> No.37934682

>>37934467
>Fauna
137k floor, 637k tourists
>Kronii
835k floor, 2m tourists
>Mumei
963k floor, 23m tourists
>Bae
66m floor, 163m tourists

>> No.37934692

>>37934658
EN3 are gonna be holo antis and won't be able to name a single JP

>> No.37934700

>>37934324
Fauna. It had been a long time coming. Super obvious she was uninterested in streaming. The whole improve yourself saga and homo collabs. Plus so much more opened my eyes to how retarded i was being. Fauna is now my oshi but ill never invest myself the same way again. Its just a hobby folks

>> No.37934705

>>37934605
Yeah but their numbers are consistently shit. Kiara never had great numbers but Mori and Ame have seen steep decline

>> No.37934712

>>37933997
IRyS 2.0 has great reaction images

>> No.37934724

>>37934534
Can an indo be part of EN if they actually know english? ignore nijisanji

>> No.37934742

>>37934682
Based EN is culled after all

>> No.37934783

https://gamebiz.jp/news/360486
I'm retarded, what does this mean? They're selling shares?

>> No.37934794

tempiss status?

>> No.37934825

>>37934561
Just give her Brian Tsui, like nu-IRyS. He already worked on her greek outfit and that looks miles better than the botchjob her original rig is.

>> No.37934833

>>37934700
I think Fauna has been picking up alot of viewers driven off by Kronii and Ame’s attitudes since homos debuted. I’d need to look it up, but didn’t she start getting noticeably bigger numbers since then?

>> No.37934835

Ame ended the moment IRyS finished the game. Coincidence???

>> No.37934834

>>37934692
GRIM
R
I
M

>> No.37934847

>>37934794
STOP talking about them closet faggots

>> No.37934855

>>37933212
Maybe
Or maybe she'd be the obvious second choice of lonely and bored chumbuds instead of NOT (mostly N) and IRyS

>> No.37934863

>>37934835
she did it on purpose

>> No.37934867
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>>37934700
Come home

>> No.37934895
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>>37934534
Nijiseethe

>> No.37934902

Irys has to use bots to beat enna. Well enna won EN gold that's all that matters. Enna>irys. Imagine not even hitting 11k on return + model buff.

>> No.37934919

>>37934835
Anon take your meds

>> No.37934920

>>37934835
Nah, feels like she did it on purpose.

>> No.37934933
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37934933

>>37934867
>Koyo in the Flagship Middle

>> No.37934958

>>37934298
God I miss this dopey retarded face

>> No.37934984
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>>37934902
nice costume nijicuck

>> No.37935003

>>37934958
She wouldn't be 1st army if she still had that dopey face.

>> No.37935009

>>37934700
Some anon mentioned in previous thread about how changing your oshi from Kronii to Fauna is akin to moving out from a decrepit house to a luxury apartment.

Think it's honestly the same could be applied to Ame, too.

>> No.37935037

>>37934835
Defo on purpose

>> No.37935044

IRyS with the 10,995 official peak, all because Ame decided to overlap up until the exact moment IRyS finished the game lmao

>> No.37935066
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37935066

Towa is now the queen of the GRIM. Starting now: Grimposts = Towa pic.

>> No.37935070

>>37934324
Suisei. I switched early 2021.

>> No.37935071

>>37935044
Ame, what a cunt lmao

>> No.37935080

>>37935044
Anon what the fuck are you talking about

>> No.37935081

>>37934902
Go back aloucuck. You have three threads on catalog to whiteknight your blacked queen.

>> No.37935116

>>37934984
hot...

>> No.37935134

Grimchads, I bear news
>Bae taking a mental breather
Something happened in HoloEn. Spread the word.

>> No.37935157

>>37935066
Her fault. Why is a male playing an otome game

>> No.37935166

>>37935134
Is she still studying?

>> No.37935173

>>37934984
>>37935081
Im black so i win either way

>> No.37935178

>>37935009
Fauna does literally nothing special for her to be considered a luxury apartment

>> No.37935181

>>37934833
Maybe? I couldnt tell you. Im glad she began to incline by doing what i would expected of HOLO EN. HoloJP but in english. Yes im retarded i know. >>37934867
If i knew more than bits and pieces i would. As would many anons here no doubt. But then we'd just become 5ch schizos.

>> No.37935201

>>37935134
>bae was expecting to announce new outfit after irys 2.0
>management blocked it

>> No.37935203

>>37935134
probably something school related

>> No.37935212

>>37935134
Anon, this bitch needs more than a "mental breather". She needs a complete and total fucking break. She is STILL PHYSICALLY ILL and refuses to go to a fucking doctor.

>> No.37935229

>>37935178
Imagine being this wrong

>> No.37935235

How much number will PekoMiko Christmas get? Could it break 150k?

>> No.37935237

>>37935178
She's nice to her fans, doesn't yell at them, thinks about what they want and how to please them with her content, and streams consistently 4-5 days a week. that's like a goddamned mansion with a pool and a helipad on a 200 acre ranch compared to most ENs right now.

>> No.37935238

>>37935212
How sick is Bae?

>> No.37935245

>>37934462
It’s like the third time in the last couple months coming off of what seemed like a return to form in October and her promising to communicate more

>> No.37935291

>>37935178
The word is not supposed to be taken on face value anon. It's more on the fact Fauna actually loves and appreciate her fans, a far cry to Kronii and Ame's attitude towards their fanbase.

>> No.37935303

>>37935134
Nowa oji is dead....

>> No.37935314

>>37935237
It's basically Fauna and IRyS until Gura gets back and Mumei stops taking her meds.

>> No.37935323

>>37934984
Man, you know it's not making rounds when there's no actual QoS edit for the new costume yet ...

>> No.37935328
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>>37934700
I dropped Ame one year ago and move to JP again (Marine)lol and I started watching Fauna from this stream
https://youtu.be/T7HY8ExrmRo

>> No.37935334

>>37935212
>>37935303
EN is healing, IRyS truly saved the day

>> No.37935335

>>37934467
Aussie internet’s fault…

>> No.37935386

>>37935238
Enough that she's been coughing and complaining about her throat and yet still does retarded shit like karaoke despite all that. She knows it's wrong to and she should go to the doctor and I fucking pray she does during this guerilla week because she's actually fucking killing herself for whatever reason

>> No.37935440
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37935440

Ame soo cuute!!

>> No.37935455

>>37934324
I'm not a teamate but rn i'm enjoying an indie i'm watching rather than the holoEN girls to be honest, but i prefer the holoEN girls when they do collabs

>> No.37935456

>>37934462
At this point chumbuds are like parents talking to a child that never understands how to do better, SHE FUCKING SAW the communication comments she got from the first break to the point she gave hints on stream "Yeah yeah I will tweet and I will communicate, here's my internal schedule" and blablabla to keep people more satisfied, no wonder some are actually getting mad over having the same talk over and over again

>> No.37935459

>>37935440
kys

>> No.37935460

>>37935314
And kiara if you're in her niche. If she's to your tastes, you eat well and always have pretty much

>> No.37935473

>>37935238
near 2 months straight now
Not an exaggeration btw, she has coughing fits mid stream sometimes and is always sniffling

>> No.37935492

>>37935291
Kronii and Ame loves their fans. They say it often enough. In fact, Fauna has literally never said "love", at most it's "appreciate"

>> No.37935500

>>37934835
>short unarchived karaoke
>2hours 40min
I dunno maybe her definition of short is different

>> No.37935508

>>37934462
Shows that criticizing Gura is better than criticizing Ame.

>> No.37935535

>>37935473
perhaps she coughed blood and decided to take a "mental breather"

>> No.37935539

>>37934783
AFAIK stock split is simply splitting shares into two or more. For example if previously there are 1000 shares circulating worth $100 each, if it's split into two there will be 2000 shares worth $50 each. Mainly this is done if they are public company as this will make the price of one share more affordable for the masses, so one can speculate whether this means they are about to go public. Or, in another case, this could be done to make it easier for Cover to offer shares for employees/talents.

>> No.37935546

>>37935473
Could just be a lingering cough from a cold.

>> No.37935549

>>37935440
This is simply not true. People love to watch cute things. If Ame was cute people would watch her, instead people have left and stopped watching Ame so we can conclude that Ame just isn't cute.

>> No.37935556
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>>37934324
stuck with Gura and Fauna for EN
watching Pegor and Koone most of the time because there's not enough streams from them

>> No.37935558
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37935558

>>37935459
Nijiseethe

>> No.37935561

>>37935500
>>37934835
she hates her because she mogs her at everything

>> No.37935569

>>37935386
>>37935473
In the worst case, that sounds like another victim of throat nodule...

>> No.37935580

I FUCKING HATE TOFU!
>I FUCKING HATE TOFU!
I FUCKING HATE TOFU!
>I FUCKING HATE TOFU!
I FUCKING HATE TOFU!
>I FUCKING HATE TOFU!
I FUCKING HATE TOFU!
>I FUCKING HATE TOFU!
I FUCKING HATE TOFU!
>I FUCKING HATE TOFU!

>> No.37935583

>>37935328
A great stream. I know some people wont like it but id like to see her try for a new PB. I can understand why she shelved it tho

>> No.37935604

>>37935456
chumbuds don't want to admit that their oshi is much more like Ame than she is to Fauna or IRyS, she does what she wants (and that's clearly to not check her discord or tweet or post member messages)

>> No.37935620
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>>37935580
Open!

>> No.37935621

>>37935583
She's at least practicing off stream. If she ever gets permissions for the mod it might see a brief comeback.

>> No.37935632

>>37935546
She herself remarked the other day that she should go to a docter
It's mostly her crappy sleep habits that are preventing her from recovering honestly

>> No.37935645

>>37935492
It's not about the words anon, it's about the action. Take off your rose-tinted glasses and surely even you realize how fauna treated her fanbase far better than Kronii and Ame.

>> No.37935647

> Hides her booba
> But still leaves a bit to keep the fans thirsthy for her
She's a numbers beast now

>> No.37935668

>>37935604
i think gura hates being social but masturbates when she see all the chumbuds waiting for her

>> No.37935677

>>37935580
>Hiding her tits with the tofu
IRyS, you are supposed to have learned from Kronii's lesson... make that tofu small again for another week or two at least...

>> No.37935713

>>37935647
I fucking love numbers-conscious IRyS

>> No.37935729

>>37935677
Theres some horny faggot who spams "Tofu/Booba" in the entire stream

>> No.37935753

>>37935580
Seeing them peek out over the tofu is even better. Like how its sometimes hotter when they wear certain clothes than just naked

>> No.37935779

>>37932490
Why is he peeing standing up.

>> No.37935825
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37935825

>>37935779

>> No.37935831

>HoloEN's management nerfed IRyS's "tofu" in the final phase
...

>> No.37935848

>>37932734
You can't stop me. I will make sure all 5ch know that 4ch is retarded.

>> No.37935863

>>37935492
>Kronii and Ame loves their fans.
>One bitch openly filtered her fans
>another bitch traded them for a homo cock
I keked.

>> No.37935865

>>37935604
Gura has her own set of problems. She thinks about what her fans want when she's in work mode, tries to please them and not do stuff they'd dislike, wants them to get merch they'd like that meets her standards, etc.
But she also, when burned out, just completely drops Hololive entirely and goes ghost (apparently, that's just a guess, because she never communicates what's going on). And she does it increasingly often lately.
That's different from what Ame does when burned out, which is to stream just as much but be more grouchy and low-energy.
But Gura's just too charismatic when she does stream, so a lot of it gets papered over. If she had less natural talent she would be a total shitter, non-geniuses could never get away with it.

>> No.37935933

>>37935848
>I will make sure all 5ch know that 4ch is retarded.
NEWFAG!
>4ch and 5ch are all Retarded

>> No.37936023

>>37935863
If they get filtered were they really fans to begin with?

>>37935645
Anon she has done morning different. She shows up plays games says nice words then fucks off. Just because she didn't Collab with Tempus doesn't make her better than the other two, a Collab is literally just a collab.

>> No.37936075

The Gura complains got locked....oh boy

>> No.37936109

>>37936023
>Pulling the real fans cope now
Kek teacucks and cuckbeats are truly one and the same

>> No.37936122

>>37936075
wdym?
something happen?

>> No.37936147

>>37936023
>If they get filtered were they really fans to begin with?
>Retarded doesnt have any rights to be spoonfed

>> No.37936190

What has Ame done to make SEAniggers seethe so much?

>> No.37936202

>>37936023
>Just because she didn't Collab with Tempus doesn't make her better than the other two
It is, though? Especially when the collab happened along with all the drama that followed

>> No.37936231

>>37936190
sure anon, all of her viewers were SEA back in 2021

>> No.37936235

>>37936190
She pounded your mom. It was supposed to be the SEAniggers turn.

>> No.37936236

>>37936190
>everyone that hates my oshi is SEA
You can't dodge your way out of this one, teacuck.

>> No.37936263

>>37935237
Kronii doesn't yell at her fans and is so much more open with them than Fauna they're not even in the same league

>> No.37936305

>>37936202
That drama was and will always be contrived as fuck.

>> No.37936345

>>37936190
Seanigs are secretly unicorns, maybe holoID should try to pander to unicorns after all

>> No.37936359

>>37936190
Seachads only hate vox here, find some other demographic to be your scapegoat

>> No.37936371

>>37936345
www

>> No.37936377

>>37936023
>Anon she has done morning different.
1. She never rocks the boat
2. Actually asks her fans what to play on-stream
3. 99% start her stream on the dot, unless it's group collab
4. Openly admit that she won't be streaming if she's in bad mood because she want to show herself to everyone in good spirit

I dunno anon, you tell me

>> No.37936385

>>37936231
>>37936235
>>37936236
>instant 3 replies
Touched a nerve I see, sorry brown monkeys I'll try to not hurt your feelings

>> No.37936389

>all this Kronii and Ame cope

>> No.37936427

>>37936023
Yes, collabing with a m*le is bad. It honestly should be grounds for graduation. Rushia failed hymen inspection and got fired. Ame should have been fired too.

>> No.37936448

>>37936305
And the fact is that drama still indeed happened. Ame was the small trigger and then the one that ended up getting bunch of dramafags locked on to HoloEN was the Kronii's retardation.

>> No.37936459

>>37936385
sure anon, you can go sleep now and masturbate to Amelia x Regis fanfics
SHOW those seaniggers who's the boss!

>> No.37936467

You know for a thread that's supposedly about numbers and so called data analysis this reads alot like you guys bitching like woman about people you don't like.

>> No.37936506

>>37936467
you already made a post about it, make a thread if you wanna farm replies

>> No.37936512

>>37936467
>He still thinks /numbers/ is about numbers
ngmi

>> No.37936542

why is it SEA the ones that mostly talk about cucks?

>> No.37936543

>>37936467
>Newfag?
Newfag

>> No.37936545

>>37936075
The hugbox that doesn't hug Gura lol.
Though ever since Gura's meme review she seems soured her relationship with reddit even more.
I remember back then the sub reddit always try to avoid Gura topic for some reasons.

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>>37936075
>vague posting

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>>37936467

>> No.37936612

>>37936263
This. Just stop being a retarded gray.

>>37936377
>Openly admit that she won't be streaming if she's in bad mood because she want to show herself to everyone in good spirit
So she's essentially fake as hell?

>> No.37936627

Lamy 10k on that numbers poison game. Nice

>> No.37936631

>>37936542
Projecting their own cuck behavior into others

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>>37936190
SEAgoblins can't appreciate cute things pls anderstand.

now post your cutest ame pic !

>> No.37936661

>>37936545
leddit has always been kind of passive aggressive towards gura

>> No.37936733

>>37936658
We dont post whores who cant even break 10k on unarchived here.

>> No.37936746

>>37936612
>So she's essentially fake as hell?
It's called understanding her job as an entertainer. Vtuber is escapism. It's a performative job. Why do you think all of the most popular HoloJPs are the "entertainer" type, not the "Artist" type? Exactly

>> No.37936766

>>37936612
Why would that make her fake?

>> No.37936795

Honestly this goes for any of the girls, nijisanji or hololive or any other agency. If they are wonderful people, which TAme has demonstrated without a shadow of doubt, then they deserve to be happy with any partner they see fit. As their fan, I should want them to be happy, not form a really unhealthy parasocial relationship.

>> No.37936796

>>37936122
Reddit cumbuds are tired of being ghosted by Gura so they made a thread to complain about it. And then there is a reply chain on r/vyt complaining about the complain.

>> No.37936806
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37936806

Brown skins

>> No.37936812
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>>37936658

>> No.37936813

>>37936612
>So she's essentially fake as hell?
Ah yes, the standard burger "Authenticity over anything" kek

>> No.37936826

>>37936661
Because its full of trannies and r/virtualyoutuber posters. Loli? Check. Not super lgbtfg+ positive? Check biggest EN vtuber but doesnt conform to their "unity" mindset? Check. Ignored da boiz? Check. What else am i missing?

>> No.37936835

>>37936467
>He really beleebed
Anyone who tries to tell you /#/ is some kind of objective haven of thought is full of shit.

>> No.37936839

>>37936812
Why did she stop doing that?

>> No.37936841

>>37936812
Kyuuuute !

>> No.37936847

Everyone should hate holokeks, they are the blight of the industry

>> No.37936879

shows us more pics of your wife Regis
hopefully you are sharing with Vesper

>> No.37936880

>>37936545
>Shit on community
>They don’t like you
Shocking

>> No.37936882

>>37936746
This
Suisei is less popular than ame, see their subs number

>> No.37936889

>>37936766
Because it's not truly her? It's a singular aspect of her and she refuses to actually let loose and show who she really is normally?

>>37936746
Even those "performative" streamers show all their sides, not just one.

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>>37936733
Yes >we do. Seethe about it, monkey

>> No.37936938

>>37936847
I hate every single human on earth without exceptions
You are all trash

>> No.37936966

>>37936911
Hilarious that you'd admit your oshi is a whore but whatever floats your boat cuck.

>> No.37936967

>>37936467
That's just your braindead interpretation. It holds no weight. Crawl back to your hugbox.

>> No.37936970

>>37936796
Chumbuds will not do this to gura.

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Hiding her cleavage behind the tofu make it looks hotter.
Sometimes it pop out while bouncing, she knows exactly what she's doing.

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>>37936658
:3

>> No.37937016

>>37936889
>Not wanting to show your negativity is called being fake now
The absolute state of en fanbase, kek

>> No.37937029

>>37936911
>we
>only 1 faggot cdSpamming

>> No.37937093

>>37937029
take your meds anon kek

>> No.37937101

so teacucks are applying deadcuck tactics now huh
when is her next RM stream?

>> No.37937107

>>37936889
>Even those "performative" streamers show all their sides, not just one.
The better question is why you think there's only one side to positivity, anon. Just because someone doesn't want to show their negativity doesn't mean they're one-dimensional.

>> No.37937127

>>37936966
We call everyone a whore. It has lost its meaning

>> No.37937156

>>37936796
there are chumbuds on reddit?
the same reddit that didn't know she had a 3dlive that she announced on stream but didn't post on reddit?

>> No.37937157

I think you all need some meds.

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