If this stays like this in the long run can it be considered a success?

[Anonymous No.]

i think yes, nijisanji cant compete against hololive on the EN side cause they were too late but if they maintain stable numbers like this everytime then its all good

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779381
Takobros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779381
>>3779437

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779381
i don't understand anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779381
>Barely able to even compete with a chatting stream from one of the lowest number in terms of live views among EN
But before you try to say that's good, remember that Ina has one of the more loyal fanbase and she gets numbers like that constantly and on debuffs while Niji is still on honeymoon buff.

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>>3779381
I believe the Niji EN fish will do better than the dragon, but dunno.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779481
OH NO NO NO NO...KFP bros, what happened!?
>>3779381
Even if they lose 1/2 of that, it'd still be a success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779643
She's doing superchat reading at the end of stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779643
What do you mean what happened? She's pretty much done anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779381
Yes if they're still getting 3k average in like 3 months from now they're a success. If they're getting like 700 then it's more questionable.

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>>3779381
honestly, while numbers do reflect some amount of success, they will be successfull as long as they get enough money from donations to pay the bills and her salary.
also hololive is taking money trough youtube superchats, wich takes a hefty cut. the niji girls are using streamlabs wich means theyre getting 99.5% of the money they take.

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>>3779381
considering niji sanji was utterly unpopular in the west, niji en vtubers are doing very well.

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>>3779744
If they're getting 500 or above 200 then it should be consider a success, if we're honest here. They have no other buff or selling point outside of he he le leddit shitpost and are going to be competing with other ENs, not Hololive. Hololive EN isn't their competition anymore. It's going to be newer companies jumping into the market and indies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779846
this desusenpai

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>>3779381
As of now, Ina has gained 1000+ new viewers, Elira has gained about 100. Some competition. Not to mention Amelia is pulling about 6.3k too.

[Anonymous No.]

That's a big hypothetical if you're trying to extrapolate from this. Your comparing someone who just started after their debut over someone that has been doing it for 8 months now, right? That's a pretty unfair comparison like early Anya streams to later ones or Anya playing obscure debuff games, versus Anya playing well known games, spanish duolingo or collab streams. Get back to me when she's 1 month into it and see where she stands in comparison.

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>>3779381
3K viewers is around Towa or Uto numbers. Its actually competitive against Holo.

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>>3779963
If anything, someone who debuted should be getting more since fresh and new. The biggest numbers tend to be from debut and then second stream where people come to check out your streaming skills. While not universal, like any may mays, most people operate by the 3-4 episode rules. They still have a chance to salvage themselves for the next few weeks. Otherwise, might as well just accept the fact you're basically an indie but now getting money taken from you by someone else.

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>>3779879
If you're getting 500 but giving 30% to Nijisanji for the privilege of doing so, and were getting 200 as an indie, that's a dodgy proposition. At least the one that was a vtweeter got a free model out of it. I fell like they should be able to maintain around 1k but we'll see what EN 2 entering the field does to their numbers.

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>>3779963
This is true, but 9/10 people aren't going to care
There's always a peak when people first debut at these companies and then a sharp drop off
Comparing the Holo ENs half a year in to a fresh debut from the next biggest company is a bit janky
Go back and check the views of the Holos at the time of debut and you'll get a more fair comparison there

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>>3779963
We still have to account for the honeymoon phase. None of the NijiEn's look to be potential stars so unless they pull a Pekora, they're gonna be looking at possibly 1/3 of their current viewership 1-2 months from now.

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>>3779381
It wont, wait at least a month to see their real numbers, only people that care will stay the others will move on

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>>3780143
>a free model out of it
That's only if you're new to vtubing and starting out. Otherwise you just pretty much threw away a model of your own, which considering nowadays, are pretty pricey unless its really shit or made by yourself. At the very least being the first of the Gen they can advocate for more merchandise as soon as possible. Might as well strike while the iron is hot.

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>>3779845
The classic Confucius problem
More money less take vs
Less money more take

Hypothetically
if you make 100,000 in super chats and you only get 20% that’s 20,000

Meanwhile
You only make 25,000 in super chats and you only get 85% take you made 21,250

Then the real question becomes which is more secure and the benefits

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>>3779643
Classic bait, here I'll finish the 5ch sequence for ya since no one else will
あ
まずい
ひん
やめべ

[Anonymous No.]

>comparing a 45k sub channel with a 960k sub channel
why do people do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779643
OH NO NONONON AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA, DEAD FUCKING SUBS

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779846
This. NijiEN channel didn't even have 100k subs pre debuts.

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>>3779587
it's not good, but execellent
there's no way shes getting 3k every stream from now on
nijis have absolutely no western fanbase compared to hololive, the difference is giant. their debut numbers were also higher than i expected

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>>3780525
>Then the real question becomes which is more secure and the benefits
But its not as if Nijisanji is like Cover where they have any benefit outside of the name. I keep hearing people say they get studio or merchandise or 3D but for EN, unless they're living in Japan, 2 out of 3 of those are inaccessible to them. And since its more of a part time, although I don't know the Japanese law and policy for company benefit, I doubt they have any actual company related benefits nor if they can be considered long term since they're at best disposable cogs in a massive running wheel.

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>>3780630
because
>this is the end of HoloEN
do you remember?

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>>3779643
>numberfagging superchat reading

what a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>ina has been maintaining 7.2k
>elira has lost 300 views since I last checked
HOLOLIVE IS DONE!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>3779587
>Ina
>lowest viewing numbers among EN
wut, her drawing streams usually make 10k

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>>3779381
well that's the thing newfag. they won't maintain those numbers

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>>3779963
This is actually way higher than Ina's average though. She's still being boosted by the outfit reveal. She used to get 4k at most before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3780746
i can already tell you were the one who made that thread with how constantly you bring it up, faggot

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>>3781132
Depends on her type of streams. I see her gaming streams tend to be on the lower side, depending on the game of course, but her drawing streams are high as expected. Since she doesn't care or do superchat reading, I think it would be best to leave that metric out if we're going to numberfag.

[Anonymous No.]

At least most of the posts in this thread are actually being logical with their analysis vs the number shitposting in the other threads.

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>>3781132
This is blatantly incorrect. Ina has the most consistent viewership in all of EN. She pretty much never drops below 6k and is usually in the 7-9k range.

[Anonymous No.]

>amelia finishes stream
>ina immediately gets a 1000 view boost
POTTERY

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>>3779845
wouldn't the streamlabs use only be temporary until they are monetized? Otherwise I'd question why Niji isn't using it as a whole already.

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>>3781486
Her avg was a little over 4k on playboard before the outfit reveal.

[Anonymous No.]

Ina has over 20 times the subs, the gap between the two shouldn't be that small. Explain this, takos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3780525
that actually makes me realize that probably elira is actually making more money rn than a low number's hololive girl.

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>>3781665
7k during late afternoon in burgerland is pretty average though, especially for a talking stream.

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>>3781665
Debut buff, I Elira to be sub 2k in 3 months.

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>>3779381
They're in their honeymoon phase. Take the numbers on their channels with a grain of salt until they stabalize.

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>>3779381
Well they have until vsinger so better secure your fanbase now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3781890
Nah. There's this one.
https://twitter.com/PhaseConnect
Better hope they're not ready to debut any time soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3781788
>>3781773
This
Kiara was at 10k on her first superchat reading. Honeymoon phase. Trying to numberfag right now will only lead ti dissapoontment.

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>>3781651
I watch Ina often and that seems really off for Ina's live viewer count average. I'd believe it if you said that was Kiara's.

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>>3779381
Debut buff and they haven't started playing games yet. Most of the games they plan to play look like debuff games.
Whenever Hololive decides to drop Vsinger and Gen 2 will affect their viewership as well.
It's also pretty obvious that Nijisanji already has a wave 2 waiting to go so that's another factor.

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>>3781665
>Debuted last night
vs
>Sunday afternoon chatting stream
Still got mogged by 3k

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779845
The receipt for the streamlabs donation is a generic Ichikara email account. The girls are 100% not getting the full amount even of these streamlabs donos.

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>>3781132
I don't think Ina's got 4k since she played Sakuna (and maybe Lobotomy Co.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3781509
2000 more now
Ina is absolutely BTFOing this indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779381
CLIP NIJIEN STREAMS

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>>3781651
Playboard is shit for anything except SCs, Ina's average is the 2nd highest after Gura because she never reads SCs. Should be like 8/9k average.

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>>3781987
>a wave 2 waiting to go
Imagine if Ichikara is really that fucking stupid to announce another wave of EN in such a short amount of time that'll completely cannibalize their talents. At this rate, the call is coming from inside your house.

[Anonymous No.]

>just sitting there bullshiting with chat
>8.4K
HoloEN is dead, NijiNiggers win again

[Anonymous No.]

>>3781717
Vshoujos, top Nijis and some indies probably make more than say, Mel or Iofi.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know how many views this girls were averaging in their past life? I know Ichikara will pretty much call them a success as long as they're not averaging 2 digit views but I'm wondering what the girls would personally consider as acceptable numbers. I mean if I'm joining the supposed no. 2 vtubing agency in the world as part of their inaugural EN Branch, I'd at least expect a minimum of 2-3k views even after the honeymoon phase is over.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm more sad that even after all this time we've been talking about her, her view count hasn't gone up the slightest. It's still only at 3.5k. It's both kinda good, but also pretty bad since it means there's barely anyone coming in or noticing her.

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>>3782093
It keeps fluctuating between 8.6k and 8.9k every time I look at it. Is this eldritchian magic?
Either way, we're fucking FINISHED holobros...the dragon has gotten 300 views since OP's post and our squid has only gone up by about 3k. IT'S OVER!! I SNEEL!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3781717
It’s great isn’t it?

[Anonymous No.]

100-200 for Pomu, fish didn't even stream I think. I don't know if people settled on who Elira used to be.

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>>3780144
This

Gura was pulling near 50k for her post debut streams and the others were around or slightly over 20k. Based on the numbers they get now I think a 50% drop off from post debut hype is likely. That would mean the Nijis will settle in around 1k to 1.5k viewers which honestly isn't that bad when looking at the vtuber space as a whole and it's really good considering how much Nijis other foreign branches (ID, KR, IN) have fallen flat on their face and can't even hit 3 digits.

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>>3782194
If nothing stupid happens and they're at least being advertised still for a bit longer than 2k will be the average yes. But otherwise, it'll become a struggle to hold 10% of those numbers since once again, outside of the debut buff, they don't have any other and considering that there are always new indies and companies coming in, people moving on to the next big thing. Hololive is not their competition in the game anymore. Its the wave of others that'll kill them if they don't somehow seize a part of the market, unfortunately and all the stupid memes and wojack level tweets will probably turn off normalfags.

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>>3781717
Hololive's lowest girls also happen to get a ton of sponsorships, partnerships, merch deals and whatnot (not sure about Iofi actually).
It'll be interesting to see if Ichikara is able to get sponsorship deals for the EN girls considering they're new kids on the block in an already established scene.
>>3782194
Really depends how harsh the drop off is, HoloEN had larger numbers to pad out the crash while NijiEN is working with a budget of ~3000 viewers.

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>>3782193
Elira pulled around 100 on twitch previously

[Anonymous No.]

>>3782157
niji sanji or even cover doesnt really follow your globohomo business standards, mutt. ive been watching both niji jp and holo jp but most niji jp vutbers live streams have 300-1k viewers.

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>>3782194
To be fair, there are a lot of JPs that don't break the 4 digits either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3782342
>>3782126
Poor Iofi
I wonder how she feels

[Anonymous No.]

>>3782157
They had much more smaller numbers than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779587
Ina is probably the 3rd or even the second in HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>3782486
Iofi is surprisingly the most well known among the JPs. She has streams and connections up to the top level management, so I don't think there's much to worry about for her.

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>>3782406
> ive been watching both niji jp and holo jp but most niji jp vutbers live streams have 300-1k viewers.

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>>3782597
what the fuck does that shit even mean. lolol

must be some usual eop delusion.

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>>3782486
She has a lot of connections within the JP sphere surprisingly enough.
Examples I can think off the top my head are her interactions with a VA leading to Roberu getting a radio show and Pochi into becoming a Hololive mama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3782559
yeah, didnt Pochi say she got the opportunity to design Reine because of Iofi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3780590
消せ

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>>3782559
She has a hard time even bringing in 1k though. I've watched her a few times and she gets 0 suppachattos too. Even if her job is safe, it must make her sad to know how little people care about her. I feel genuinely bad for her.
>AAAAAAAA I MUST SAAAAVE

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>>3782684
She's also the only other one who have a monthly stream with Sora, which is usually reserve for the really older ones. Before Risu and Moona got their boost, I think Iofi had the highest sub and growth among the IDs.

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>>3779381
How long did it take for HoloEN to get out of the honeymoon phase? If Elira never dips below 4 digits post-honeymoon phase thats a win

[Anonymous No.]

>>3782712
I assume its because she uses steamlab like the rest of the IDs. Most of the IDs don't get much SC anyway nor do they average more than a few 700 depending on the time and stream.

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>>3782597
Hayama Marin (my girlfriend) isn't doing so bad after all. I've noticed she's getting closer to averaging 2k lately. I'm happy to see her moving up. She's a very good girl.
And yes, I am in every thread.

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>>3782760
3 months till google Thanos the whole youtube livestreaming side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3782406
That's JP though. EN is suppose to cast a bigger net and help the brand grow. If they can't even beat a holo-adjacent chuuba like Uto than what the hell is the point of launching this branch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779381
Now divide that by subs number :)

[Anonymous No.]

>Comparing a just debuted talent from a company with 0 EN presence to an established one with 8 months behind her and the backing of clippers and plebbit.

3k is average for Kiara's "debuff" games, I think she'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783256
Is Elira doing sc readings? Her views have dropped significantly since I last looked

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783256
>>3783305
Didn't mean to reply to you
All this cock sucking and cum guzzling must have fried my brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783305
she is exlaining in more detail her debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3782597
Yeah, majority on JP is at least over 1k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3781651
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCMwGHR0BTZuLsmjY_NT5Pwg
>avg 12k viewers, almost 13k across 187 streams
the fuck are you talking about anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783305
>>3783401
Yes, after she started doing superchat readings she dropped to around 2.6-2.7k. The ones that are glorified zatsu have better retention than the speedrunning ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783200
i hardly believe theyve pumped so much money into niji en. what are the special costs/budgets in the west? niji tends to overproduce vtubers all over the world but its just because their business model isnt centralised. they basically leave each vtuber alone and dont urge them to gain a profit through a centralised marketing plan, unlike cover.

[Anonymous No.]

3k ish viewers slowly descending down to 1-2k is perfectly fine. The actual question is, how dissatisfied are Nijisanji with these results considering how much money they put into marketing NijiEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>take the lowest point of a stream
>compare it to a freshly debuted (so just post "hype") talent
>still lose
Nijikeks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783629
$200k+ in youtube ads
Original song production
Possibly new management

[Anonymous No.]

>all of this Ina shitflinging off of a poorly timed screenshot
>where a "just chatting stream" has nearly 9k over an hour in
Jesus, I come back from reps and having streams on in the background and THIS is what faggots are arguing about right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783600
Playboard only uses the last 15 streams. Not sure where he got 4k from though, her prior to outfit reveal was more like 7k, dragged down by Nier.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Sora had triple digit numbers for a year and the majority of their success came within a year transforming them into the powerhouse they are today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783600
Playboard only takes the last 15 streams into account. Her avg viewers was at around 4.4k before if I'm not mistaken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783764
oh didn't know about the 15 streams thingy but yeah, the 7-8k viewers is more correct than what the dude said, don't recall any streams where she got less than 5k viewers desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783629
In all honesty, the real shock here is more HoloEN rather than NijiEN.
Their launch is exactly what Cover theorized a Western Launch would result in, and instead got blessed with lightning in a bottle. Niji on the other hand is part of a much larger company with more resources they can throw around, and most likely will be less strict with collabs and permissions, so they're hoping for larger growth over time.
They most likely aren't focusing on HoloEN at this point, and most likely will be targeting VShojo at this rate than anyone else, which will be fun to see play out.

[Anonymous No.]

>Elira debut stream
>109k
>first real stream
>18k
18% retention
>Ina debut stream
>954k
>first real stream
>401k
42% retention
Nijibros...

[Anonymous No.]

Why the fuck are holofags so obsessed with numbers? Fucking why? And I say this as someone who actually watches hololive. I remember a long time ago numberfagging was shunned on /jp/ but now its a common accepted topic on both jp and vt
CAN YOU STUPID NIGGERS JUST FUCKING WATCH THE FUCKING ANIME GIRLS SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THEF UKCU UP SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783200
I want to say that Uto should be taken as an extreme abnormality in cases like this. She had several buffs that I don’t think Nijisanji really has a chance of getting, in that she was able to corner the EOP market when it was between the point of saturated yet also thirsty for something different, not like now that is just saturated. She also had a larger buff being Nabi/Amelia’s artist and even if we took out the leech from metatag, she was actually smart to stream at prime time targeting said EOPs but market herself as a JP, not like the NijiEN who are marketing themselves as purely EN. Also, she capitalized on her new wave by pandering hardcore to said EOPs as a JP, which NijiEN will not be able to do.
It would be the same as if one of the NijiEN suddenly found herself a Russian favorite and went all out to pander to them. Right now, Uto’s competition is only a small part of HoloEN, which is usually Chumbuds and Deadbeats so regardless she don’t lose much when she overlap with the HoloEN or even JP.

At best, the comparison for the NijiEN is actually the tranny shark. Lots of Vtwittering to establish, a pretty good model and scuffed debut. Although, hopefully they don’t go the way of that boring one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783952
just wait for that retard posting a meme about entering the thread about something you don't like and being pissed about it, that will show you

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784024
Uto also tagged her streams with a lot of Hololive related tags so the algorithm would show her to people that watch Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783952
don't go into a numberfag thread then you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783952
>numberfagging was shunned on /jp/
It was shunned as much as it is now, it's just that now there is a whole board for people to spread their numberfagging retardation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784067
I can go into any thread I want suck my dick holofaggotniiggerretard

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783878
Her first real stream was yesterday and the vod has 59k views right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783952
/jp/ numberfagged too retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784065
While I’m not saying it didn’t help, I think her bigger help from the algorithm was actually people that saw her and started advertising her around as Ame’s sister than the tags themselves. The tags probably gave her a good head start but not enough to be the only thing to propel her since it was also the time when a ton of SEAnigs were spamming her about her being Amelia sister, plus clips. But yeah, her leeching from Hololive was probably her biggest buff, but also her being able to hold on to them was a very significant factor. Remember that she did a karaoke stream during HoloFES which boosted her by alot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784206
now post the other 99% of the time where people would tell each other to get the fuck out whenever subsribers and views were brought up

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783952
Because we holofags love numbers and they are the best thing to use to shoot down any uppity Nijinigger. If a Nijinigger starts talking about overall revenue, you show the numbers, let them see how much hololive is absolutely crushing Niji (both JP and EN), and then say that extra revenue is only from bilibili using Ichikara as a money laundering cover business. This works since bilibili has majority ownership stake in Ichikara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783952
thats more like an eop trait. reminder niji jp hasnt had any translated clips, and been utterly niche even on 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784167
He meant after debut and her along. The stupid collab watchalong don’t count. Still don’t know what they were thinking doing that, siphoning viewers from them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784206
Yagoo must have one epic karma counter for the miracles that happened to happen.
>Christmas Miracle
>Scatman
>EPIC MIKO GAMER MOMENT
>Coco joins Hololive
>"a"

[Anonymous No.]

>>3783952
I know what you mean. Sometimes I think to myself those numberfaggots don't watch streams because they are unable to enjoy vtubers beyond broken english translated clips. But I also hate to admit that every vtuber to some degree is a numberfag as well since number basically a realistic metric of their progress in the industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784370
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8cEzHdeWKY

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784392
We all know Yagoo is a massive saviorfag who likes to hire misfit "broken" girls and give them a chance to make friends and a place to call home. Him doing this has probably built him up a ton of good karma. No wonder good things keep happening to him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784459
Debut: 109k views
Guerlla stream right after debut: 59k views
First scheduled stream: 18k views

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784392
He does pick up only the most broken and traumatized girls and give them a better chance for society. Hololive is pretty much the foster’s home for autismo girls and boys, holostar included if you know about how messed up some of those poor boys are as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784422
You know you can love the girls, enjoy the streams, and still be a numberfag right? They aren't mutually exclusive. I'm a huge baseball fan in addition to Hololive so following numbers and stats is a natural process for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784606
Theres a difference between appreciating the stats and using the numbers for tribalistic shitposting which is literally the case for ALL posts that bring up numbers on /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784583
Obligatory image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784327
>that's more like an eop trait
you mean a 4chan trait. leddit doesn't numberfag outside of milestones. /vt/ numberfags because they love to fight and are just pretending that the numbers actually mean something.

[Anonymous No.]

It's all about consistency and entertainment at this point. Kiara regularly pools 3.5k viewers as well in her regular streams. She seems to have a packed schedule and she's a nice girl. If you like her, give her a try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784206
How can one man be so fucking lucky? It's like the universe will literally contort itself just so that Yagoo comes out of any situation with an advantage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784644
Then its more your problem being so easily baited by all the falsefaggers and shitposters. If you like the girls, then numbers should not matter. But doesn’t mean you can’t have some fun like celebrating certain milestones.
I have oshi that operate in double digits but I watch and love them just as much. Do I get happy seeing them hit a new triple digit every now and then? Of course. But do I let it overtake my love for them or anything? Nah. They’re fun and I like fun. So I like them as long as I can watch them have fun and stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784606
>>3784517
>Like an island of misfit toys
>YAGOO found value in girls that had idol qualities but were overlooked for a variety of biased reasons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud3VDZ75zBk
YAGOO is the Billy Beane of idols

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784517
orange woman...

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784769
Suisei’s story still brings me to tears every time. The fact they gave her a chance and let her in, although sent her to a shitty part of the branch, but later on found her again and brought her practically reads like some anime plot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784769
When is Pekora doing a Moneyball watchalong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3784854
Pick any of the three main protagonists in the The Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls and there you have it
Suisei's story is the most idol shit ever

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah, people will compare to hololive numbers but those are VERY solid numbers for a vtuber or streamer in general

[Anonymous No.]

>>3785205
I think people are more disappointed cause remember that Nijisanji and Ichikara isn’t some small no name company, that they are still one of the biggest Vtubing business in the industry. Its like saying that Microsoft sales are fine if they launched a new console and it only does a 10% of Sony or Nintendos’s sales.

[Anonymous No.]

teammates....

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779381
Damn, I was wondering why the view counts for Ina's chatting stream was abnormally low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3779381
What's the point of EN branch when they cant even beat their main branch at western prime time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3787032
they already beat a 1 million subs vtuber

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>>3786237
Everyone has to start somewhere anon, it's not like Nintendo dominated the console market on day 1, they started out as a analog game company.

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>>3787128
did he delete because he noticed Ame's numbers. lmaoooo

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>>3787032
that's pretty funny

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>>3787169
For some reason I think jannies delete those numberfag posts randomly. No idea why.

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>>3787163
No, but the whole vtubing industry does stick of the old console and gaming industry. We have a massive industry that fucked up super hard, Atari/Upd8, enough that it actively cause the entire model of entertainment at the time to completely collapse. Then in the midst of all the chaos we have some Japanese company taking the western market by the balls and is now super hot, then we have some other popping up trying to break in like Vshojo as Sony lets say and the fuck up that is Microsoft, which is basically Nijisanji, who although have all the money and power in the world still can’t do anything right and still fuck up massively on a daily basis.
I’m just waiting for the story when we have a retard from ichikara going to Cover and try to buy out Cover with chump change and get laughed out.

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>>3787169
Either that or he was trying to dunk on Ame in a subtle way without realizing that Ame's stream is just a superchat reading and it was still neck and neck with a post debut stream coming off of debut hype.

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>>3787276
i'll say that's stupid
but i was banned for saying "SEAniggers AWAY" so i don't know, jannies are weird

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>>3787556
racism is against the rules outside of /b/

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>>3786237
Hololive's recent growth is the outlier though. Nijisanji is doing as well as they always have.

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>>3787380
For some perspective NijiEN is doing better than most of NijiJP and all of NijiID and NijiKR. It's literally their most successful branch launch by far and more successful than any other company attempting to break into the EN market besides Hololive and VShojo. This is an extremely solid foundation to build a English brand.

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Fairy was keeping a bit higher numbers overall.

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>>3787592
It's not enforced, every poster on every board say it all the time

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>>3779381
Oh no no no no
Ina! Give them some hope!

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>>3779381
who gives a shit
can people go back to watching streams as opposed to funny like, fake fanbase numbers wars anytime soon?

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>>3787680
100%
This really needs repeating.

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>>3782597
Is there a hololive version of this chart?

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>>3779587
>lowest live viewers in EN
Excuse you, Ina is the 2nd highest EN in terms of viewer numbers

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>>3779587
Wasn't this when Ame and Kiara were still streaming?

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>>3792507
Iofi.....

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>>3792697
Imagine losing to Anya of all people...

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>>3792507
homos should just graduate

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>>3787163
>Everyone has to start somewhere anon, it's not like Nintendo dominated the console market on day 1, they started out as a analog game company.
NES dominated because every other consoles are fucking dead

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>>3787680
I agree with everything but they aren't doing better than most Nijisanji JP.

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>>3782760
Until the 2nd week in December when a "feature" cut their live viewership numbers in half with the waiting to watching bullshit that is still going on. Unless people actually believe 50% of viewers decided to leave within a couple days.

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>>3794243
huh, what the fuck is this image supposed to tell

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>>3783104
>Spend all their resources trying to compete with twitch as a livestreaming service
>Finally able to do so thanks to the rise of vtubers
>Just fuck them up in the ass anyway
Why is Google like this?
I don't understand

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>>3779381
3k+ viewers is a good number compared to Kiara who got her views dropped a lot most likely because she returned to her home country and change her streaming schedule.

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>>3782737
No it was Risu. Iofi's sub is close to Moona but is always lower than her.

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>>3794243
Anon that shows that over half of Nijisanji get less than 3k viewers on average...so you just proved my point.

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>>3783820
>Watching one of those analytics videos that shows Holos' sub growth
>Getting to EN debut month

Really puts into perspective not only how much Holos shot up, but just HOW fast Gura took off.

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>>3779381
Temporary numbers from curious viewers.

My guess is that the best of the Niji EN girls will stabilize at around 1k viewers average, and the worst of the three might be around 500.

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>>3781935
They said back in March that their plan is May or June for debut.

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>>3781935
>>3798350
Do you actually think this group will be successful? I mean they seem fine but what makes you think they'll do better than Tsunderia or Prism? Honestly a new org would be lucky to get Re:Act numbers.

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>>3783609
i guess for niji, its more of an idea than a business; make VTubers the norm by producing more and more members

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>>3798546
Guess it’ll depend on how well they’re marketing themselves and all that. Prism and Tsunderia is doing fine, to say the least. At best they’ll pull some decent triple digits but probably not much but it’ll depend. I’m curious if they would be fully EN or half EN half JP since the way they spoke, it seems like its a mixed with their talents suppose to be speaking both.

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>>3782342
Welcome to Nijisanji

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numberfagging is what's gonna kill vtubing

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>>3800424
No, numberfagging kills vtubers, vtubing lives off of it. Even if they aren't your numbers, you can say "we want to market using vtubers, look at the eyes that X vtuber gets."
It's the individual that sits there staring at their analytics and wondering what they're doing wrong, that's the wrong kind of numberfagging.
This, what we're doing here on 4chan, is just baseball/soccer/sports style numbers bullshit.
If numbers kill it for you, then that's your issue, you don't influence their views any more than we do. You know what would help? Clipfagging your oshi.

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>>3798546
I don't have any thoughts since I don't plan on watching them. Maybe I'll check them out if one of them miraculously manages to make a big splash.

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>>3779381
>beaten by the weakest holoen

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>>3810384
>Replying 5 hours later for this shit
Kill yourself.