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Why are southeast asian vtubers so disconnected with the EN vtuber comunity? They speak english and some of them have more than 100k subscribers. Yet they are not popular in the EN community. Why is it like that? How can they fix this problem?

>> No.3760745 [DELETED] 

>>3760701
They can't from the outside, unironically they need to unite their fanbases (not happening) and teach them to not be so fucking cancerous, that's the only thing filtering them so bad, it's like if a fucking /vt/ sized board broke containment and spreaded all over the normie net of SEA, fucking terrible.

>> No.3760803

>>3760701
Cause everyone hates SEAniggers including SEAniggers.
Hololive somehow managed to hire 5 seaniggers that aren't cancerous and obnoxious but then ended up with one ollie.

>> No.3760810

>>3760745
SEA fanbase is not cancerous.

>> No.3760924

>>3760701
arisa, lili, and maddie.
others seem cute, but eh.

>> No.3761169

>>3760803
Goddamn she really live rent free in people head huh

>> No.3761257

>>3760701
>>3760803
>Cause everyone hates SEAniggers including SEAniggers.
Pretty much. Their posts are consistently the shittiest ones and that's saying something for a board like this that's inhabited by nothing but gay retards.

>> No.3761265

>>3760701
My guess is not enough GFE for EOPs. From what I have seen they are a bit more like regular streamers. This and a few other threads has me looking more into them though so if this thread is still around or another like it I will post a more educated theory later.

>> No.3761344

>>3760701
A good chunk of SEAnigger chuubas are boring. But I like the UI knockoff.
t. SEAnigger

>> No.3761416

>>3761344
I'm sure the 100k subs SEA chuubas aren't boring. I mean how did they get that many if they are boring right?

>> No.3761608

>>3761416
Hololive branch clout.

>> No.3761634

>>3760701
They’re not popular with anyone.

>> No.3761647

>>3761608
I mean besides holoID and nijiID of course. You do know there are other popular SEAvtuber with more than 100k subs right?

>> No.3761661

>>3761647
News to me. List them

>> No.3761783

>>3760701
I don't like SEA accents, they just don't sound good to me. It's really as simple as that.

>> No.3761795

>>3760701
Youtube algorithm region locks you. Somehow Hololive was able to break free.

>> No.3761834

>>3761795
And yet everyone in HololiveID except Ollie is still flopping.

>> No.3761845

>>3761661
Most of the Maha5. Aisha.

>> No.3761938

>>3761845
>those views
Seems like they have a lot of dead subs.

>> No.3762000

>>3761938
Like Gura?

>> No.3762041

>>3760701
>SEAniggers
There your answer

>> No.3762059

If they all speak English then they should sell themselves as English vtubers. "ID" is an unnecessary debuff. I mean, is Kiara in HoloGR?

>> No.3762131

>>3761834
Reine does very well too. Her along with Ollie are really the class of ID as far as popularity goes. I feel like Risu could be a lot more popular but her decline is all her fault since her streams are so inconsistent and she seems to purposely debuff herself by not singing when that is absolutely her strength.

>> No.3762158

>>3762059
they still speak exclusively ID when they collab with each other
moona's english is still pretty bad as well

>> No.3762168

>>3761834
You have a very skewed definition of success and flop.

>> No.3762203

>>3761834
Ollie, either by luck or actual competence, engages heavily with clippers and other people seen as "major community players" on Twitter. She's also really easy for those sorts of people to empathize with, since she's basically a fangirl that got hired and is seen as "the girl on the inside" to many.
Reine and Moona both do okay, Iofi and Anya both walk to the beat of their own drums anyway, and Risu is too busy shitposting on /vt/ to bother getting herself out there, but she's doing okay, too.

>> No.3762223

It's almost like being on the other side of the world means your stream times don't work for most EOPs

So unless they start aggressively courting Australians and New Zealanders the only way most people will ever find them is through VODs

>> No.3762241
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3762241

>>3760803
>everyone hates SEAniggers including SEAniggers
>but then ended up with one ollie
Ok SEAnigger

>> No.3762295

>>3762241
based and Aipilled

>> No.3762303

>>3760701

the less western fans a chuba has, the better they are

>> No.3762319

>>3762223
The only viable market is New Zealand since aussieland have shit internet.

>> No.3762347

>>3762203
Risu really is /ourgirl/

>> No.3762428

Speaking of HoloID, why do they rarely collab with other SEAtuber?

>> No.3762462

>>3762428
SEAtubers seem to barely collab with anybody outside their immediate circles, based on cursory knowledge.

>> No.3762542

>>3762428
not often but they still kinda do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31PZu8ccam8
this was just 2 weeks ago

>> No.3762824

>>3762542
>>3762462
So, they barely even collab. No wonder these SEA vtubers are doing pretty bad.

>> No.3762933

SEAbros are alright and for the most part their English is better than jap chuubas. Nothing wrong with them, just some cultural differences.

>> No.3763034

>>3761783
I think that just depends on the person. SEA has one of the most diverse accents I've ever heard. I don't watch much SEA vtubers but I personally like Ooshio Ruru's accent, kind of like Asian Ame.

>> No.3763142

>>3761257
You sure about that? I bet you've never went to the threads about Risu, Reine, and Niji ID. They're among the comfiest threads in this board.

>> No.3763834

>>3762933
Well yeah. But why is the community so separated from the EN community when they all mostly speak english?

>> No.3764766

>>3762347
truly /ourgirl/ by embracing shitposting above making anything worth showing off

>> No.3764971

>>3761661
kanna have 106k and she's indie

>> No.3765968

>>3760701
>why are southeast asian vtubers disconnected with english communities?
Gee anon maybe because they're literally on the opposite end of the world? No burger is gonna watch seamonkey channels when they're streaming at like 12 AM.
Also
>>3761795
This desu, SEAniggers are more active on facebook than most platforms.
t.SEAnigger

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3766079

>There are no Singaporean vtubers

>> No.3766099

>>3765968
Don't kid yourself. Even if they did stream in american hours, they still won't be popular.

>> No.3766135

>>3766079
thank god. their accent is fucking horrendous

>> No.3766152

>>3762319
Problem is, NZ is more cucked than Australia.
t. Aussie

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>>3766135
I wholeheartedly agree. Furhtermore, Singaporean girls are portrayed as being tone deaf, materialistic and easily manipulated by shit on fagbook. Imagine Kiara but with a horrible fucking accen.t

>> No.3766210

>>3760701
>Why are southeast asian vtubers so disconnected with the EN vtuber comunity?
Dunno I don't know anyone from the image you posted....

>> No.3766874

>>3761661
kaheru channel

>> No.3766895

>>3762428
holo id collabed with lyrica tho an independent vtuber, and moona even offered her to join holo id

>> No.3767359

>>3766895
>could have had lyrica instead of that boring shit anya
Fuck

>> No.3768193

>>3760701
It's better to focus on your intended market instead of trying to pander to Americans.

Look at the case with HoloID vs NijiID+Maha5. HoloID is undoubtedly a lot more popular than the other two agencies, but they have no real presence in their local market. NijiID and Maha5 got some sponsors from local business and often invited to local events. But HoloID only got sponsorships from foreign brands intended for foreign markets. This is not good for the long term, local fans tends to be more loyal than foreign fans. Foreign fans will move to other vtubers if they found someone more interesting that speaks their language.

>> No.3768252

>>3763142
SEAniggers don't post in those threads. That's why.

>> No.3768282

>>3768193
But anon... the numbers... big numbers good. small numbers bad.

>> No.3768565

>>3768252
I see that you've never visited those thread.

>> No.3769649

>>3766210
Not even Lili? I posted her here on /vt/ sometimes.

>> No.3770676

>>3768193
wasn't moona invited to some seanig convention? Do local fans really contribute that much compared to foreigners, especially since seanigs are literally poor 3rd worlders? What sponsorships have holoID received? I would think foreign non-seanig brands would be more prestigious compared to 3rd world brands; and therefore getting a sponsorship from one would boost their status, making local brands want to get in on clout.

>> No.3770730

>>3766079
There are SG indies, I'm watching one.

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3772278

>>3770730
Link? I'm interested.

>> No.3772969

boop

>> No.3773065

>>3760701
The only SEA vtuber i like that isnt from a corpo is Kaheru. she should join EN2

>> No.3777628

>>3770676
>What sponsorships have holoID received?
I think Moona's had multiple world of warships sponsorships.

>> No.3777717

>>3766205
>Imagine Kiara but with a horrible fucking accen.t
This is bait right?

>> No.3777782 [DELETED] 

>>3760701
SEAs are pretty bad but I think Burgers/Yuros/Spics are way worse

>> No.3778236

>>3760701
they shouldve learned japanese instead of the shitty useless globohomo language. bora proves that. she learned japaenese hard while playing games well, and is getting popular in the japanese vtuber scene.

the western indie vtuber scene isnt so big, and most globohomo viewers dont give a fuck about indies, and the western indies arent organised at all, lack standards.

>> No.3778772
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>>3760701
Actual answer that nobody will except because it's so simple and obvious: It's the accents. People are naturally put off by heavy accents. Japanese is at least a pleasing language to listen to, but SEA languages sound harsh and it effects their accents when they speak English.

Nobody will want to admit it, but it's just nature. It's nobody's fault. People are just like this.

>> No.3779188

>>3770730
Who?

>> No.3779280

>>3760701
Because a lot of them, despite speaking English, still predominantly stream in their native language.

>> No.3791530

>>3778772
>Japanese is at least a pleasing language to listen to
It isn't. You're just used to it because anime.

>> No.3793569

>>3791530
No, it really is just a pleasant language. Show anyone Tagalog and they'll reject it.

>> No.3794266

>>3766079
aren't you guys full of STEM graduates

>> No.3797101

>>3772278
Just search SGvtuber on twitter and you'll find a whole bunch of them. Personally find their accent cringe though so I'll never watch them.

>> No.3797332

>>3766135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U-BPDDDSto

>> No.3797579

>>3762542
>Nia
why does she sound like reine?
what's with the okinawan bgm?
why is there a rrat?

>> No.3803699

>>3760701
Here's a better question: Why should SEAniggers pander to EOPs?

>> No.3808314

>>3803699
Bigger market, access to richer clients. Are there any successful seanig vtubers that only speak seanig tongue?

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3808586

>>3773065
>>3766895
Kaheru and Lyrica no longer need to go corpo imho. They are the PH vtubers that have made it.

>> No.3808820

>>3760701
who cares?
EN was a mistake

>> No.3810211

>>3761265
Actual SEAnigger here (cringe I know) but it's because the majority are streamers themselves and once they transition into Vtubing, don't bother to change up their formula and just do the exact same thing as before except with a live 3D/2D avatar.

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