Where is the love?

[Anonymous No.]

She is doing everything right why you guys hate her

[Anonymous No.]

>>37184787
I don't hate her, I just don't care about her.

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>>37184787
The "4chan is the Internet Hate Machine" meme never stopped being true, we just stopped saying it because it sounds like cringe.

[Anonymous No.]

Sha has done none of those things

[Anonymous No.]

In the bathroom stalls with the homos
>>37184835
This dude from Reddiscord

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>>37184856
Fuck-friends are friends, right?

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>>37184856
When she try to make new friends everyone hates her

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>>37184856
But she has Tempus and she's happy with simp money

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>>37184787
>making friends
you don'tset out to make friends, friends just happen naturally. No wonder she is a depressed doomer

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>>37184787
no wonder she is hated

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>>37184787
A completely self-centered list

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>>37184856
Lol that's actually quite true, even the last step, she can't even pretend to be happy despite everything. That or she's taken to RP'ing as Eeyore full-time.

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>>37184787
Her game choices and pace fucking killed it for me. It's about a month between every episode of a single playthrough and it's usually leftover FotM or just really bad indie non-games, the sort of shit someone picks because they have no passion at all and has their tastes crafted by jaded journals praising any indie game that copies their favorite comfort films.

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>>37185390
Who else would her goals focus on?

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>>37185491
Her channel maybe? Content?

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>>37185491
Hololive.
Like some of the others do

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>>37185390
At least she's honest I guess.

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>>37184901
>Reddiscord
What's that?

[Anonymous No.]

she also learned japanese
see gura? its not so hard.

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>>37184787
She was given everything
>sex voice
>model by one of the most well known jap artists
>great coomerbait design
>a brand that guaranties 6 digits subscribers just for being part of it
she literally needed to do one thing to make it, and she still fucked it up just to collab with fucking males. wtf???

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>>37185931
She just hates lonely people. Nothing more to it.

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>>37185931
Her model looks bad desu

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>>37186162
Only the legs look weird.

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At this point I honestly just want an apology, but I know she won't

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>>37184787
Number 5 is still a work in progress.

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>>37184787
i'm pretty sure her liver is 5x older after making that list.

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>>37186287
Which happens to be 80% of her body

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>>37185365
Whats the context of the "i held back" comment?

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>>37190682
she only used her mouth

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You guys need to get some help

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>>37185931
and those males arent even friends, they're twitch fuckwits who tried to use her for clout and moved on to trying to use the brand to promote their twitch friends already.

She didnt know them, she wasnt friends with them, she isnt friends with them now, they used her and destroyed her career and she's dumb for letting it happen

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>>37190682
Members only stream, talking specifically about her tempiss collabs and how she was only collabing with them if they invited her while she was "holding back" from interacting with them. She was found tweeting about tempiss underwear later that week which prompted her hiatus in the first place when her members called her lying ass out and she cried to staff about muh harassment

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>>37191283
shut up kyle. get some sleep

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>>37191364
Pretty much. Kronii is just an oblivious retard who let herself get played by Mori and Tempiss. Sad but her channel is dead now and shes desperately trying to pander to coomers to stop the hemmorhaging

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>>37184787
Nobody would've cared as much about this if she hadn't been retarded enough to say that line

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>>37191427
woman moment

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>>37184787
>She is doing everything right
No she isn't. In fact, she isn't doing anything right.

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Jealous dumbfucks making excuses while she does just fine.

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>>37184787
lol

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>>37186287
Eyes take up half her face and her boobs look to over the top to be erotic, sometimes less is more.

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>>37184787
Around 90% are the unicorns that used to be her fandom the other %10 are just antis who just hate any vtuber. Since she colab with males they feel "betrayed".and you explain me how that even makes sense because i dont get it. They hate Tempus for the "sin" of being born male near their oshis. For the "blasphemy" of being friends with them tainting their "purity".

When she found out about it that some didnt like it she said basically said that she will do what she wants and honestly thats completly fair is her life her channel. But that only made those jerk now create a vendetta against her although the vast majority is concentrated in 4chan on other sns is not that easy to find since they would be chewed over by the community. In 4chan you can talk shit, spread missinformation and just be a complete asshole without consecuenses so they all are here.

TL:DR Shes not a bad vtuver its just jealous and malding exfans who cant stand looking at her being happy without them and worse not listening to their every whim.

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>>37196111
>malding exfans who cant stand looking at her being happy without them
I mean actually hearing laugh for real was a wake up call for many

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>>37191427
Christ was a whore. Her, mori, and ame are nothing but poison

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>>37185365
>fiends of the opposite sex
Oh she means Magni, understandable.

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>>37196111
Go to bed Kronii.

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>>37184787
Damn, she missed all 5 goals.

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>>37184787
Stop spamming faggot, go buy more bots like you usually do. No one gives a fuck about this worthless bitch, not even enough to hate her any more. kys r*dditfag.

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>>37186162
turbofag

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>>37196543
I just got what this means, you MAGNIficent bastard.

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>>37197190
No YOU dont care about her but you dont represent the community at all. You dont like her? Perfect there are hundreds of vtubers you can go bother but thats a YOU preference not "everyones".

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>>37196111
>She's not a bad vtuber
You need stop thinking with your dick.

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>>37197748
There are hundreds of breadtubers for people like you, go.

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>>37184787
>1. Improve on singing
She had to be harangued by her fans for months just to do a karaoke
>2. Getting better at mixing
She barely talks about it, and does no streams involving it.
>3. Form a meaningful connection with the community
She is constantly lying, breaking promises and spat in the face of the community she spent a year building
>4. Being happy and having fun
This is the only thing she's actually done since joining hololive, nevermind that it's usually offstream.

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>>37184787
ANon. nobody cares about a literal who. Get over yourself already faggot. no one cares. no we wont stroke your ego. you are a cuck.

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>>37184787
>announces on debut that she's not happy and is depressed
>makes suicidal jokes and talks about how she'll kill herself on stream
>still no repercussion from cover or management

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>>37196111
Stop being so mad, its just a streamer. If people feel betrayed and are seething, let them.

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> caring about EN

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>>37184787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09m0B8RRiEE

[Anonymous No.]

>do you not have friends of the opposite sex
she really thought people were watching her because of her personality huh

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>>37191427
Her members didn't care about the promise to begin with, other than Gabe and Chillosophy, who were the ones that chimped out on Twitter.

Her whole member stream the chat was overwhelmingly against her making promises to not collab with Tempus. Looking at likes on her recent member posts, there's been little to no recline in her numbers; vast majority of her members literally don't care.

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>>37184787
She's a piece of shit, you can't put that cat back in the bag now that everyone knows her true feelings. It doesn't matter how much asmr or SNOT collabs she does, I'll never be able to enjoy her streams again knowing how much she detests us.

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>>37184787
Pic related stream or fuck off kronii, you have lied to us to many times already for me to fall for it

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>>37205182
Her views, ccv and sub growth have fallen off a cliff since the little spurt she got from the twitter tourists faded away, huff more copium.

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>>37205182
>there's been little to no recline in her numbers
Imagine claiming he numbers haven't reclined when she hasn't collabed with Tempus for 5 weeks and her schedule screams titties and panic.

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>>37205445
>>37205455
This was specifically about her number of members: there's been no observable change since her members posts get the same amount of likes as they did before the yabs. Meaning her members didn't care about this unlike the narratives here are saying.

With regards to her other numbers, they've been in decline for a long time already since she streams indie garbage spread out over months that no one wants to watch.

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>>37205627
I'll restate my point, Anon. If Kronii felt like her numbers were doing fine then she wouldn't be flashing her tits, doing ASMR, and suddenly shunning Tempus collabs. She probably has observed a decline in her memberships and it has her spooked. Remember we can only estimate how her memberships are holding up but she can see the exact numbers and her panic speaks volumes.

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>>37205627
At least 6 people on the spreadsheet left.

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>>37185390
well, that is her whole persona

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>>37205966
She did ASMR 3 months ago though

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>>37205627
I don't have a horse in this race but I'm pretty sure that she did lose some members but she also gained new ones in place.

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>>37205966
She's talked about wanting to do more ASMR for the entire year, and her coomer wallpaper ASMR was way before the yab. If she was actually panicked she'd put more effort into her schedules rather streaming just 3 public streams a week like a retard.

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>>37204263
She's tonedeaf. I recall her once mentioning that she wished people looked past her "ribbon". Bitch half of your appeal is the model that was handed to you. So much for "Wada-mama" huh.

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>>37206199
It's like she doesn't know what job she signed up for.

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>>37206032
That was before she backstabbed her gachikoi for Tempiss

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>>37205182
just because we didnt sperg out like Kroniigger Gabe doesnt mean we werent pissed off
I'm a relatively big name and I dont want twitter trannies harassing me and the people who work for me so I just quietly unsubbed and decided against hiring Kronii as a voice actor.

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>>37206879
Well no matter how many of you there were who just quietly quit, it hasn't actually had an effect on her observable members numbers.

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>>37206879
>hiring Kronii as a voice actor
lmao

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>>37184787

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>>37207170
Don't ever undermine Ardbert with this whore

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>>37206967
Cope.
Whatever makes you sleep at night

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>>37184787
how am I supposed to know if she's getting better at mixing?
is she posting her lo-fi beats on SoundCloud or something?

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>>37184832
fpbfp

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>>37187907
>>80% of her body

68%.
there's really no need to exaggerate.

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>>37196111
>>In 4chan you can talk shit, spread missinformation and just be a complete asshole without consecuenses so they all are here.

On /vt/??
Try talking shit about Mori or that faggot DNousagi.
Get back to me with 'no consequences.

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>>37207712
Cope about what? I'm just dishing facts without taking sides. I think Kronii is a terrible streamer that doesn't know what she's doing. Her memberships are not affected by the yab though, so consider coping about it if you find that inconvenient.

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>>37184787
We were so hopeful back then...

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>>37205627

"No decline in subscribers" isn't a strong argument.

Lots of channels have dormant subs.
The fuckers couldn't be bothered to click to unsubscribe, and the ccv doesn't lie.

In a sense, this isn't about an anger over her playing with boys. It's more likely disappointment: they aren't vindictively quitting, but just aren't interested in her anymore.

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>>37208142
Also keep in mind that some people stay subscribed to vtubers they don't watch so they can get around the subscriber only mode timeouts.

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>>37208142
How does every retard replying to this post have problems with reading comprehension. This is about channel members: as in the people that pay $5 to access member's community posts.

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>>37208218
He's basing his assumption of her not losing members on the likes, do you hit the like button on every post and every video? Not everyone does. Other than that, it's pointless to argue about memberships because we don't have the numbers around it, but it's a fair assumption that members at higher tiers dropped down if not cancelled their memberships outright.

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>>37190682
https://streamable.com/4bf4eb

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>>37208652
If that was a fair assumption you'd probably be able to see it in the numbers. Her member's only watchalong from 7 months ago has about as many likes as her most recent watchalong from last week, and watchalongs are the most debuff content that only the most dedicated fans watch. If there was a big exodus, as is being claimed, it'd be reflected in the likes.

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>>37208819
Again, not everyone hits the like button all the time. It's an assumption, not an assertion, and certainly not a fact. We don't and will never know Kronii's membership situation.

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>>37184835
this place lost that title years ago
it belongs to twitter now
we're just 'the hacker known as 4chan'
nobody fucking knows what it is

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>>37184787
Breach of trust.

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>>37208862
It's the only observable number we have. Assuming there hasn't been a drastic change in her member's behaviour in the last year, we can definitely estimate if there's been a big drop. Just because we can't tell the exact numbers, doesn't mean we can't find trends.

As you said, most people probably don't press the like button all the time. I have no idea what the proportion of people that do is, but let's say it's 20-40%. This'd mean that Kronii has up to 7k-10k members. Hardly a number she'd panic over.

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>>37209164
>Definitely
No. No we can't. You can't correspond the number of likes to the number of members, let alone what tier those members are paying. It's a completely unreliable metric to measure and relying on that to claim she's doing just as well as she always has is a massive cope.

You estimate a 20-40% of people remember to hit the like button each member stream, but what we don't know is what tier those people pay or if they're even consistently doing it each member stream and post. We don't even know if they're long time members, gifted members or members who just came by for the drama. Even if you could reasonably say they are, that leaves 60-80% of her members in the dark, any number of which could have left outright or dropped to a lower tier, which is more than enough of a statistical blindspot to remove Likes from consideration.

This is ASSUMING all of them are even paying in the proper currency, a lot of members get around costs by paying in ARS, and since we see people doing that all the time with superchats, there's no reason to expect a sizeable, but inherently unknowable, proportion of them wouldn't.

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>>37184832
pretty much what first post said

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>>37209369
Higher tier memberships are barely a fraction of the total membership population. I'm reading this message as you conceding that there hasn't been a drop in member numbers, and coping with a made up scenario where she had enough higher tier members that it'd somehow matter to her if some of them dropped.

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>>37209439
Anon, the likes aren't even static, we don't even know if new people membered, liked old members streams and unmembered again. Maybe some members unliked old member content before they cancelled, we literally don't know and you're an actual retard for using likes as a concrete metric to measure. Yes, it's the only number we can see, it's also a wholly unreliable number and there's so much guesswork around it that you can take literally any number of likes and spin a rrat out of it.

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>>37185390
>personal goals
>self-centered
youdontsay.png

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>>37191364
This. Isn't one of them Hasan pipeline trash as well?

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>>37207933
>get banned, when it cost literally nothing to post to begin with
>"consequences"

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>>37184787
Because she's annoying. I can't stand to watch her streams (and don't). Ooh, let's do a bit where I eat gross food and do lots of fake gagging drinking dirty water. I hate it when she collabs with someone I like to watch.

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>>37185908
Gura has actual brain damage and autism. It is harder for her to learn Jap. Also Kronii is already bilingual which makes it easier for her to pick up a new language. EOPs and JOPs will always struggle to learn a second language as an adult because they grew up only hearing a single language for decades. This is something SEAbros will never understand.

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>>37209507
>new people membered, liked old members streams and unmembered again
This would give an advantage to old member's content over new content. Yet the new member's content has the same amount of likes as stuff from half a year ago.
>Maybe some members unliked old member content before they cancelled
Who would bother doing this? Not a statistically significant population at the very least.
>it's also a wholly unreliable number
Not really. Unless Kronii was telling people to like her posts (she hasn't), I wouldn't expect there to be large variance in the proportion of people that are willing to press the like button for similar content.

Regardless let's say she has had a drop somehow even though this is not reflected in anything. And as you say, a large portion of her members are not pressing the like button on her content. That'd still mean she has a massive number of members, so at the very least talks about a massive member exodus is just false.

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>>37209744
You would think so, but with every other metric dropping for her, you're just coping by assuming her memberships have remained completely untouched by the drama, especially given it was them she lied to and shit on.

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>>37184787
This lying cunt can fuck off

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>>37196111
>she said basically said that she will do what she wants
what the fuck are you on? Her first thought was the shipping comment on a goddamn clip. then the hold back mention. Statements and promises that are always broken. If she had just been upfront instead of pussyfooting around, the drama would not be this bad. Not even pimps protect a lying whore, stop defending her shitty actions

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>>37209788
Can't really think of more ways to say that if this was the case, it'd be reflected in the numbers. Her general recline in CCV seems about as bad as anyone else in HoloEN, other than Fauna, who has steadily inclined. Can't see too much of a difference between her and Mumei's recline honestly, which is weird considering Mumei streams much more, and plays more popular games too.

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>>37209895
I would assume Mumei's recline is a result of Kronii axing Kromei, as they had fan overlap because of the ship (outside of /here/)

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>>37191427
she makes mistakes come on, there is a thing called forgiving.

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>>37210037
Typically people apologize for mistakes they make if they want forgiveness

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>>37184787
I hope chat gives her an hard time in the ASMR stream. Pandering to unicorns after rightfully shitting on them is cringe

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>>37208006
>facts
You handle Kronii's channel now?

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>>37185365
>getting better at mixing
>not putting mixers instead
kinda missed opportunity desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>37185365
What's the last quote about?

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>>37185931
she's a strong and independent womyn.

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>>37213243

Maybe she could improve her mixing so she wasn't so loud and stop the clipping on collabs. It sounds horrible. Do they not test before streams? So low effort.

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>>37215185
She got a pre-amp now, might be better in the future

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>>37184832

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>>37209895

I didn't like Fauna much when she started. But lately she has been gaming unlike any other EN member. Solidly good streams. She even played Civ 5. She also consistently does good Minecraft streams. I guess everyone else misses the fact that Minecraft is boring if you can't spend a few minutes working on an interesting goal instead of standing around chatting with each other.

I've also grown to greatly respect Irys' streaming. I didn't initially watch her stuff, but it is better than I realized.

Mumei just seems unable to find ideas sometimes. Some of them seem so afraid to play games they like. Are they not gamers at all? If so, Cover fucked up.

I see JP finding titles they like to play and spending hours on them each week. Usually older stuff that is a classic or they appear to be revisiting games they played growing up.

Kiara is also good for streaming regularly, but I have a harder time with her streaming style.

Kronii usually plays trash games and her persona bleeds all over the experience and makes it worse. She is by far the weakest EN member.

Gura is lazy, but she also has a massive subscriber count of kids. She plays whatever game is new and popular. I find that boring, but she is making money...

Watson... meh. She also seems to be unable to find a game she likes much since Elden Ring. I think her habit of doing streams where she plays multiple games for a short time show that clearly.

Oh yeah, Mori. I almost forgot about her.

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>>37184787
normal human being - just collab with males without saying anything like Sora
western vtuber - first calling all her fandom bunch of unicorns and how she hate it and all the "idol stuff" and because of it she can't collab with males...but still collab with males. It's like she WANTS to be hated

[Anonymous No.]

>>37184787
She made the cardinal mistake of attacking and lying for the fans.

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>>37184787
Kronii has not done anything right in her entire life

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>>37184787
only watch her if she's collabing with tempus

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>>37208819
>Her member's only watchalong from 7 months ago has about as many likes as her most recent watchalong from last week
... So she has as many dedicated members as she did 7 months ago? Even though you'd expect the members number to increase over time? Meaning that she lost a number of members equal to the one she gained over the course of the past half a year? Aren't you just proving his point?
>Inb4 vod views
As you said, watchalongs are a debuff, a very miniscule amount of people will go watch a missed watchalong vod, the whole point is doing it live.

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>>37216586
>watchalongs are a debuff
unless you're a rabbit watching fate

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>>37216586
That's a great point, it just proves that this has cost her a *minimum* of half a years worth of memberships, not to mention the rest of her numbers plummetting.

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>>37215185
The only times her volume has seemed to be an issue is whenever she’s part of a collab on Mori’s channel ironically enough; either she comes across as too low or constantly peaking which lead to the dumb “laugh” moment.

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>>37216586
I wouldn't expect members to increase. These girls have a pretty stable viewership

[Anonymous No.]

>>37216640
don't compare this bitch to the great, usada.

[Anonymous No.]

I was a Day 1 member who liked every single vid she posted. Before I left, I made sure to dislike every single video. But I doubt most people did the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37195645
>her boobs look to over the top to be erotic
it's 2022 anon, it's ok to say you are gay

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>>37205627
this
>>37205966
you sisters should demand more tempiss collabs, to prove a point, she's shitting on all your work and point! how dare she !!!!
faggots, i mean twitter sisters time to spam her!

[Anonymous No.]

>>37228614
Give me some massive sagging breasts over balloon tits anyday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37184832
Basically this. The only time I've intentionally watched Kronii was her collab with Polka and thats only because I love Polka

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>>37228158
>Day 1 member
sounds like is your fault retard
what kind of brand shoelicker members after a few weeks?
your interest was superficial from the start

[Anonymous No.]

>>37228158
As a new member I will go like every old vid she posted

[Anonymous No.]

OP, making false flag threads on cooldown like this while you stroke your chode to the sound of a train getting run on your mother in the other room is no way to live a life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37184832
Bruh, I TRIED to be interested in her. It's just not a thing.

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>>37228861

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>>37228908
She's not for everyone that's for sure

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>>37229070
If she kept her original keyfabe from the beginning, I'd be dying to watch her again. At some point she went from morally dark queen-type to... insecure woman demanding to be treated like one despite having zero credentials for it.
One's fun. The other is like watching your best friend dating a chick with thirty red flags waving over her head. Get what I mean/ If I saw Kronii dating my friend I'd have to take him aside and say, "Dude, are you SURE about this?"

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>>37184787
I dropped her at month 3 after doing RM reps and never looked back. She hasn't give me a reason to give her a chance again - if anything, most shit I read about her makes me think "good riddance, I didged a bullet with that one".

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>>37231755
Same here

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>>37231755
Didging bullets is illegal anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>37228776
soullesschama...