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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

Tempus was a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>43,789: Miko (Hololive)
>41,513: Subaru (Hololive)
>41,387: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>36,041: Koyori (Hololive)
>29,307: Miko (Hololive)
>16,708: Noel (Hololive)
>16,075: Leos (Nijisanji)
>15,826: Matsukai Mao (Nijisanji)
>15,702: Korone (Hololive)
>12,443: Botan (Hololive)
>12,108: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>12,072: Ren (Nijisanji)
>11,744: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,703: Mio (Hololive)
>10,710: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10,336: GatchmanV (Indie)

[Anonymous No.]

>new HoloEN debuts in January
>its StarsEN2
How angry would you be?

[Anonymous No.]

GRIM

[Anonymous No.]

>>36897712
Gotta pay someone to kyoani'd cover's hq

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>>36897712
EN management would be unredeemable, write off the entire branch.

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>>36897712
Angry would do me no good at that point. I would just ignore EN entirely and let ENfan deal with their own oshis, no my problem

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>>36897708
>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine
3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live
5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,639 - Trial stream
9) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 44,737 - Yu-Gi-Oh lesson w/Orihimeboshi
10) Miko (Hololive) - 43,789 - Surgeon Simulator 2 w/Suisei

>PER COMPANY
9x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
2x: Suisei
1x: Marine, Miko, Mio, Yashiro

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
204x: Hololive
97x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
49x: Pekora
21x: Miko
17x: Aqua, Kuzuha
16x: Salome
14x: Nijisanji
13x: Subaru
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya
5x: Fuwa, Gura
4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Korone, Koyori, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

[Anonymous No.]

>>36897712
heh imagine tempiss and starsen2 cannibalizing eachother audience and rush to the bottom

[Anonymous No.]

>>36897712
I think its the smart move to debut EN3 in December and StarsEN2 in January. EN1, 2, and 3 should have been 6-8 months apart. No excuses for this shit, acceleration works in the first year or two to get the ball rolling and build an actual variety.

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>>36897774
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
196x: Hololive
102x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
48x: Pekora
28x: Kuzuha
27x: Miko
18x: Marine
14x: Subaru
11x: Salome, Suisei
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Hololive
6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya
5x: Fubuki
4x: Lize
3x: Aqua, Flare, Hal, Koyori, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
204x: Hololive
95x: Nijisanji
5x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: Noripro
1x: 774 Inc., Holostars, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
32x: Miko, Subaru
31x: Pekora
25x: Kuzuha
16x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura
9x: Nijisanji
6x: Koyori, Toya
5x: Okayu
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Hal, Lamy, Mori, Suisei
3x: Amelia, Choco, Fubuki, Hayato, Korone, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Iroha, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Lui, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Shion, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Minase, Nerumero, Noel, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

[Anonymous No.]

>>36897712
Like a disappointed father, I won't be angry, I'll just look at EN with dismay and plead Yagoo to get my favorite daughters out of there to rescue them from a sinking ship

[Anonymous No.]

>>36897712
I already gave up on Hololive, minus Gura and IRyS, so I would quite enjoy the show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36897712
I’d believe the schizo theory that management is intentionally sabotaging the EN branch.

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>>36897712
Everyone will be disappointed instead of being excited. People will complain why the girls took almost a year to introduce a new gen but the males get new ones 6 months in.

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>>36898065
Well I mean who would you rather manage, a bunch of boys happy with literally anything because they expect nothing or a bunch of girls who come in expecting the world to bow to them because they are Hololive, the #1 vtuber brand in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

Whenever we get into these absolutely grim hours i have made an habit of rewatching Marine's recent live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LaDuoHDC_g

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>>36897712
Already gave up.
I'm just waiting for Ina to come back, saying she doesn't care about what we think, that she is here to make friend and that she will collab with who she want. After that i will be free from this shit company

[Anonymous No.]

I've been tracking subs for a long time and I've never seen it as bad as right now.
IDs still have some traction from ID3 but that has been slowing more and more every day.
JPs are really slow but surviving on bursts of growth from events and big tourist draw.
ENs are absolutely cratering, Mori might get her first 0 monthly growth ever soon, Gura dropping to 20k and the rest doing even worse with CounciIRyS now at 3 members below 10k monthly.
ENs can't survive on events like JPs because, well, they don't have any, unless you consider that rushed holoween stuff an event. If EN3 is really only happening in 2023 and Myth is going to Japan soon, that means the near future of EN streaming will rest on CounciIRyS alone.
Some might say "but Tempus" but the reality is that Tempus not only failed to capture a new market, they actually created a rift in the existing fanbase that exacerbated this recline. I don't blame Cover for trying, it was something that had to be done considering the potential of a massive new fanbase. But the experiment has not only failed, it even backfired (thanks also to how some of the girls handled the situation) and holoEN is now in the worst position they have ever been in with no prospects of recovering any time soon.

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>>36898120
The quartet is by now the most replayed portion

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>>36898207
I do blame them for trying, who the fuck thought it was a good idea?

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>>36898120
Same. Also replaying Ame Mel live. I know it's not really Ame dancing but it was cute so who cares.

[Anonymous No.]

bots

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Now I just remember back in one of the interview with Yagoo around the crunchy con or something, he actually said that the preference in EN market is very different compared to the JP market
Imagine if he refers to omega telling him EN market wants cross gender collab more, and that's the reason why EN3 being tempus (or supposed to be) got a greenlit kek

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>>36898207
Do you think people started unsubbing after Gura's handcam stream? Could be the reason for why her growth has cratered.

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>>36898207
This but vary it depending who i want to watch. Rn its Botan's live! The gen 5 Grand Escape is kino and the Okakoro+ botan is fun as fuck!
https://youtu.be/VsYtOSHzXHA

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>muh Tempus destroyed HoloEN
Yawn. Tired of this stupid narrative when those whores don't stream, don't organize anything, and are complacent just riding out the status quo of playing games and singing songs every day.

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>>36898365
Baffling post

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>>36898393
Some people don't like the illusion of "2D anime girl" being shattered when a 3DPD hand shows up on stream.

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>>36898427
Yeah, same reason as to why pekora's sub growth is pretty slow too, because people unsubbed her after those cooking stream

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>>36898345
>Omega tries to finding a way to debut and collab with the girl openly since their debut
>"Yagoo-san, trust me, people in the west LOVE coed collab"
>Try to debut as Omega, flop
>Change of plan, debut a male wave first to ease people into coed collab, doesn't work, the branch is worst now that is has ever been
I can see it

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>>36898345
Wouldn't be surprised honestly, for some odd fucking reason they are trying to pivot towards the nondescript "western fanbase" by doing things differently than JP despite the branch only existing because westerners liked what they saw in JP.

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>>36898427
Explain Peko's hands streams then

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>>36898376
That one was really kino

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>>36898380
Tempus was truly a mistake

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>>36898472
>>36898503
Pekora has done several handcam streams in the past already, those who don't like hands have already been filtered. Meanwhile this is Gura's first handcam stream.

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>>36898207
Don't forget 2 Myth now at 0 0 0
And IRyS managing 0 weekly subs without being over 1 million subs
The lack of EN3 or JP7 is hurting the entire company.

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>>36898376
Thanks for the reminder, rewatching it right now as well

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>>36898365
You can't blame reclines like this on a single episode, regardless of what it is (and that one in particular seems very silly anyway).

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>>36898345
It's true though, Luxiem is the most popular EN vtuber branch of all time.

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>>36898561
>The lack of EN3 or JP7 is hurting the entire company
EN3 yes, but i doubt the lack of JP7 is that severe as of now

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>>36898543
>Unironically going all in with this narrative
C'mon now anon....you know how dumb your supposed to be "theory" sounds like, right? This is not the first time gura only got below 50k sub per month too, and she only shown her hands recently.

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>>36898561
>lack of JP7
HoloJP is doing amazing retardbro, it's just the whore in EN3 who are failing because they don't try anything new and/or they don't get enough support from Cover.

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>>36898207
>Starting the: Gura dropping to 20k
>Ignoring DMC 3 - 4 and Metrod games.
Try harder shitposterchama or just KYS ALREADY

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>>36898380
You can't say this and then ignore that even the ones who do stream and organize stuff have suffered

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>>36898625
Well it's not just under 50k per month, it's looking like a 20k per month atm. Could be even worse depending on how her sub growth goes during the next few weeks.

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>>36898665
anon....

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>>36898631
timetraveller...

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>>36898678
>yet another VR chat collab

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>>36898681
Nigga, really? You can just do your archive reps and Gura's been in this 20k position too before.
If you want to shitpost at least use something that no one could refute

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>>36898665
20k monthly sub growth you retarded monkey. Gura's growth never dropped that low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36898734
No, she's had 30k per month at the lowest according to Socialblade.

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>>36898631
How is it in the future?

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>>36898207
these upcoming few months are going to be a disaster numbers wise in EN3 doesn't release asap

>We know Mori and Kiara are going on a fucking vacation
>Ina is dead
>who knows when Fauna will be back
>Bae and Mumei are going to busy with school as we gear up to finals season
>Irys is still gone and will be busy with the vacation
>Gura is going to Japan as well

There's a serious possibility it will be down to fucking Ame and Kronii to carry the branch and for all we know they're going on vacation too

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>>36898759
I stand corrected then.
But still
>Could be even worse depending on how her sub growth goes during the next few weeks.
She only gonna start actively streaming again soon for this month so honestly this is just doomposting for nothing

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>>36898365
She hasn't streamed in a week. You don't stream, you don't grow. It's that simple.

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>>36898731
>>36898631
It was objectively more creative than any other VR collab they've done so far which has just been then messing around in VR with no plan
When was the last time JP tried something new? Wait, all they do is play games and have concerts? Damn so new and creative.

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>>36898741
Didn't increased in almost 2 weeks, ohhh nyo. When thata happened before ohh thats right in fucking April-May. Like I said: TRY HARDER SHITPOSTERCHAMA OR JUST KYS ALREADY

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>>36898794
Yeah I have no fucking clue what Cover is thinking right now. Just a shitty company who neglect their EN branch.

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>>36898830
Are you serious?

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>>36898207
I know when it comes to the girls it's all
>Management said they're really happy with how we're doing! We don't need to care about numbers
But surely internally management has to be paying attention to their analytics and seeing the branch reach its absolute lowest point, right?

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>>36898794
>Ame and Kronii
>The debuff queens of EN
Holy shit, this is legitimately grim.
and those fucking retards thought we don't need EN3

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>>36898794
Considering the way Cover seems to think, they'll just expect EN fans to watch Tempus.

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>>36898830
>t. retard

[Anonymous No.]

Slow day, huh?
Someone brought up again the Mori's party yab in the catalog, it's at least interesting the amount of people who still remember that shit.
>>36890546

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>>36898207
I don't see how EN3 can course correct. There's just too much degradation to the EN vTubing scene, with every twitch thot undesirable jumping on the bandwagon who then scoff at the concept of kayfabe and calling people incels and enjoying "ruining their immersion", erasing all the mystique that first captured the heart of the EOP whose first vTuber exposure was a clip of Korone's playful character fueled interactions with her viewers. 5 more HoloEN girls who are going to play kusoge and FOTM, all the while the prospect of them calling their viewers losers who dont have friends of the opposite sex lingering above viewers heads, isn't going to be a huge draw. The promise of what vTubers could be in the English market is dead, replaced by shitty OTV imitations.

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>>36898226
It's fun to read the comments of Jp's getting hit hard by nostalgia. I'm not sure what the equivalent for EOPs would be but seems like middle aged office workers got to relive their youth a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

Si which EN3 do you guys have biggest hopes for?
Alice for me

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking love those EN is reclining because of no events etc etc when JP survived no 3D and no permissions sagas.

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>>36898869
I wonder if those dead hours with only tempus boys streaming and yet they still get their usual numbers will finally dig it in into their heads that they can't just force the culture among fans to change, kek

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>>36898852
Feel free to correct me. Don't tell me the only example you have is sportsfes, which also did worse numbers than last year because people are just bored of Minecraft.
>>36898878
Talk shit get hit.

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>>36898918
Yeah, they're reclining because most of them unironically subscribe to "Don't like don't watch" mentality. And the one who cares are only 3-4 of the entire branch, so it's a tough battle already to carry the brand

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>>36898918
I fucking love those NijiEN is reclining because of no events etc etc when NijJP is doing the same way. Riku should kill himself
NIJISANJI MORE LIKE DEATHSANJI

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>>36898907
The hag.

[Anonymous No.]

Today is the 16th day where Gura has yet to get a 10k sub tick. Feel free to grudgepost me if she doesn't get another tick by the end of the 21st day.

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I love how anons here think EN3 is just gonna magically save all of HoloENs problems.

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>>36898879
someone brought that clip on last /#/ thread and then it was linked it to the catalog naturally

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>>36898879
Stop shilling your dogshit catalog thread retard.

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>>36899057
It could but it could also fuck it up even more.

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>>36898879
Shitposters have been forcing a Gura timeloop in /hlgg/ for hours, which devolved into a Gura vs Mori argument and now it's back at Mori.
To be fair the rave offcollab fiasco was pretty bad and even fucking yesmen in the comments raised some concerns.

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>>36898985
Fucking this. People like to quote Ame shitting on management for the lack of any support

How about you actually compromise once in a while and actually stream something buff for your fans for once? Of course Ame's ego would've prevented this from ever happening

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>>36899057
It won't but at least the branch won't have to depend on Kronii and Ame when everyone fucks off.

[Anonymous No.]

Shut the fuck up about HoloEN, the cripple gold stream has started. Should be easy multiple 10ks

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>>36899057
If they stream they can probably recapture at least part of the preexisting EN fanbase. JP Gen0/1/2 have talents who either barely stream or are usually shitters but it doesn't matter since they paid their dues and other talents took up the slack.

[Anonymous No.]

So this is the hour when Nijishitters shiposters starting to appear?
Their language:recline, numbers, holo vs holo and why Gura still living rent free in my head

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899057
If some of them at least fill dead hours with something it would already be great

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>>36899129
Probably another Nijidrama so they started the: holo vs holo and Gura living rent free in my head again

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>>36898894
probably blink 182/sum 41/linkin park with a live band? other stuff from around that era too.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura
>VODs are down
>Sub growth is down
>CCV still about the same
Gura is becoming Japanese. All she needs now are lower likes per video.

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Holo vs Holo existed long before Niji even crossed anyone's minds here.

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>>36899154
I mean, Gura should be living rent free on anyone's head, it's a proof that she's the top EN vtuber for 2 years running

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899129
Where's Vox POV? Is he hiding from his numbers?

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>>36899154
So the usual time of the day when they come in

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>>36899154
Things have been grim for a while. But yes, they used to show up around this time, but they have nothing noteworthy to show so they just join in.

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>4Blood is closing the gap to Bad End Night
kek
how embarassing would it be if a single girl, the runt of her gen, beat the magnum opus of StarsEN?
they pulled all the stops, gave Ina the spotlight, gathered all the Homo adjacent holos and the entirety of Tempus
they even released on Halloween, after a long teasing campaign

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>>36899176
Anon, you know EN3 is just gonna crowd the already congested 5-8PM PST streaming window. We will get MAYBE 1 EN3 who overlaps Fauna in the 3PM window with Ina now graduated. The rest of EU fags are just gonna have to be happy with Kiara.

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>>36898846
She had 30k in April and 40k in May. We'll see if she can get that this month, but it's not looking like it right now, unless she releases something big like a song.

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>>36899245
Translate: WHY GURA IS LIVING RENT FREE IN MY HEAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>36899310
Wait it's actually catching up to that cover?

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>>36899312
>Implying EU doesn't just watch JP

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>>36899237
The thing is the ENs themselves are nostalgic for those songs so they sing the same kind of stuff in karaokes

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899341
You:>>36899340

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>>36899372
I totally watched Mori that one week she decided to pander to EU while i was working.

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>>36899346
yeah
just above 100k difference more

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>>36898850
What do you want them to do, tell the ENs to not go to Japan? Even if they debuted EN3 today, half of them would go visit their families during the point EN1/EN2 would not be streaming.

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>>36899310
Mori losing to Fauna's cover is more embarrassing imo

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>>36899340
I mean, I'm just pointing out the facts. Plus it's genuincely concerning that she hasn't ticked in 16 days when her lowest was 30k per month.

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>>36899408
In case you missed it Koyo's news are now at 11PM due to winter time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJuBXsMPWvE

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>>36899346
Bad end night is at 493k 12 days in
Black cherry at 91k 8 days in
4blood at 389k 11 days in

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899310
Anon, Kiara has 10x the subs that orange homo does, obviously it's gonna do better. The main person in that cover is literally retired.

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>>36899449
genuinely*

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>>36899475
Oh right, i've actually come to appreciate those streams a lot before heading off to bed

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>>36899341
Well she has 2 songs that she said would release by this year with her highlighting one being alot more important.. ... hm maybe her going to japan has something to do with it.

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>>36899312
>you know EN3 is just gonna crowd the already congested 5-8PM PST streaming window
They've been having trouble filling even that timeslot recently. Too many overlapping breaks, and this is far from the first time they've been in this situation.

[Anonymous No.]

So like, why don't EN even pretend that they care about each other anymore?
Isn't that kinda their job?

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>>36899312
Nigga we don't even have people streaming at that slot most of the time these days

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>>36899499
Bad end night is a garbage song it was never gonna perform well. They should have done Alice in Musicland.

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>>36899449
>Translate: WHY gura didn't stream 24 hours per day I need more increaseee. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Why she stilll living in my head REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Your point she doesn't deserve a week away she just need to stream like fucking Koyo every fucking day. Like i said TRY HARDER SHITPOSTERCHAMA AND JUST KYS ALREADY.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899312
Why would I subject myself to an inferior product when the main branch is available during EU hours

[Anonymous No.]

So, Cover needs to hire more people to manage EN or should kick those who are there and hire new ones?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899630
Can you show me in the job description where it says that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899630
They like to keep it real even at the cost of their image and general wellbeing of their career.

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>>36899057
>>36899105
There's too many risks in EN3(If it's not Tempiss) by judging the direction EN is going:
>Male collabers.
>Mixed Gender.
>StarsEN2.
Being realistic, the chance that EN3 will bring something good is very low. We also have Niji as an example, that things can get much worse.

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>>36899664
Because most EU fags know English and not Japanese?

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>>36899650
What are you even talking about? Gura has had long gaps in the past where she hasn't streamed, and her sub growth has never been this bad back then. I'm starting to think you are falseflagging as a chumbud numberfag just to make them look bad.

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>>36899630
They opened the door to niji's and ecelebs so they dont see the reason why they should.

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>>36899630
I mean, snot cares with each other, same with chadcast.

Actually the dynamic in EN is actually similar with the JP, the problem is just there's only 10 girls there so the cliques really very apparent compared to their jp counterpart.

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>>36899312
I would be more than happy with someone just taking Ina's slot, maybe a hour earlier. She used to stream at 11PM for me, which meant I could watch a couple hours before going to sleep. Now it's dead hours until 4 AM after Kiara ends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899630
Its better this way, none of them would be able to keep up the act for long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899700
That's why you watch the smith penguin

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899449
You didn't realize that susan substracted 10k on the first week of october?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899700
The thing about EU fans is that if they know English they also probably don't really mind watching chuubas they can't perfectly understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899699
Actually, how the fuck did they manage to miss so badly with Iluna? Did they seriously think that gaybaiting was the only way to stay relevant?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899650
Imagine squandering a lifetime opportunity cause you're a lazy whore. Even going as low as copying stream ideas from Pekora and other popular JP members while your own branch is dying kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899699
>Mixed gender
>There are retards who actually believe this is a possibility
Jesus christ

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899757
And what does that have to do with her 16 day gap without sub growth spanning the end of October to now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899700
Skill issues, not my problem, also there are TLs during streams which help when your nihongo can't quite catch up

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899498
that's dumb, if that was the reason Mori and Irys would always get better views than all of Council

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899642
Alice in Musicland is worse. I actually don't even know a single good group vocaloid song, they all kinda suck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899663
EN's problems are a combo of managers + the talents. It's easier to blame the management but half the talents aren't doing themselves any favors recently. I'm not even talking about the homo collab boogieman here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899770
>a retarded idea is possible
well anon, EN management has shown us that they themselves are retarded so why shouldn't that be a possibility?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899770
>Mixed gender
Holy fucking retard, so you basically want half of the gen won't be able to participate a company-wide event.
actually, imagine the shitpost when half of the EN3 is on hololive channel then we have the other half on holostars channel once we hit holofes kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899838
They do, Mori has a 30M original and IRyS music does better than Councils.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899711
>chumbud numberfag
suuuuureeee. You are just a ELS schizo with Gura living rent free in your head

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder what inspired Marine to keep the swimsuit on during the Ina song

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899770
Yeah its tough arguing with some of these retarded doomposters who can't reel in their cynicism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899770
I don't think it's likely, but I can't really say there's a 0% chance of it happening now. Just look at the twitter banner on that garbage holopro twitter account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899881
>>36899699

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899129
>easy multiple 10ks
oh nyoo

[Anonymous No.]

>even Gura is reclining
GRIM GANG STATUS?

[Anonymous No.]

Current Nijibox. Actually pretty decent given the ass timeslot but now I get why Vox didn't want to stream his POV given thr numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899838
Speaking of Mori, her vod is looking good

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899881
That would be hilarious desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899769
>translate: holo vs holo
KYS ALREADY

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899915
Cause ina can't be sexier than marine

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899919
I remember when people saying that EN will collab with homos with any regularity were called doomposters

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899943
Grinning ear to ear. Or should I say grimming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899310
>ISRAEL
GO KIARA GOOOOOOOO
The fag solo is doing worse than Bae as well HAHAHAHAHA get rekt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899726
And yet Chadcast never does anything together outside of their podcast. SNOT maybe will do a collab a month if you're lucky. Current EN has less hype stuff going on then when their were only five of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899948
WE STAY WINNING BABY

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899948
>vox no pov
look at the time anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899498
Anon, you also have to consider that it's a solo Kiara cover, against a 8 person cover, featuring not only Ina (insanely popular in cover, in fact Kiara best duo cover is also with Ina), Mori (biggest musician in holo), Kronii, Reine (one of the cover machine in holoID).

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899943
more than half banned and raped and don't worry you are next

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899995
To be fair, that solo cover is incredibly hard for a straight man to listen to, much less loop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899700
All the europoors I know watch JP, and all of them dislike Kiara. Funny how that works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899999
*there

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900028
Proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899991
There hasn't been that many collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899888
>IRyS music does better than Councils
she doesn't
and Mori's best performing original was her debut one, when she barely had subs
subs don't really matter for views cause YT is basically phasing them out and replacing them with a tiktok-like algo

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899911
>>36899650
>Your point she doesn't deserve a week away she just need to stream like fucking Koyo every fucking day.
Imagine being the ESL poster and calling others ESL schizos. Couldn't be me. I also never claimed to be a chumbud numberfag, read what I wrote again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899969
It's ok anon. JP would most likely keep Gura as a sideshow pet after EN branch officially dies

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899948
Isn't this a pretty massive decline from their last AmongUs a few months ago?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899995
Actually what's up with this cover? some anon said Axel basically went open invitation with this collab cover, but another anon also said Kiara wasn't invited for the cover so what gives?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900068
try harder shitposterchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899866
>Management wanted to block Gura's cunny animation
3.3million views
>wanted to block both her lives
1.2 million on each
>wanted to block her merch ideas
sells everything out and breaks records with some. Why even block a daki?

Imagine all the other crap they have actually block that would have brought numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900048
yes anon, your social circle is autists who are absolutely not representive of the general public
we're aware of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900128
Learn English, ESL-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899699
Mixed gender would mean completely isolating them from any sort of big event and any JP interaction, it would be a fucking shitshow with nonstop drama from all sides.
Male collabers would just mean having an entire gen of debuffed Mori and Bae types.
StarsEN2 would just mean killing HoloEN for good while having 8-9 shitters competing for a 5k box.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900059
There hasn't been anything anon, even streams are sparse let alone events, the only thing I'm even interested in EN right now is the possibility of them going to Nipon by December

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900098
Why your shitters
still getting worse everyday nijinniger: >>36899948

[Anonymous No.]

Mixed gender grouping is possible, I don't know why you guys think it isn't. For example, they debut a 6 member gen. They call it HoloMix (recall that HoloEN gens don't use numbers). 3 members are female and officially a part of Hololive. 3 members are male and officially a part of Holostars. They're still the same group and branding within HoloProEN, but are still in different branches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899995
Ill support the chicken just this once. Hope the song is actually good, i havent heard it yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900145
no gracias

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899770
>retards who actually believe this is a possibility
After they debut Tempus THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DAYS after Council, I genuinely wouldn’t doubt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900102
That was in prime CN time so not really comparable even if they've declined. This is like, Euro primetime. So I guess there is an audience out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899310
>the runt of her gen
that doesnì't apply when it comes to music. She's just after Mori and Gura when it comes with music views (tied with Ina I guess)

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900198
that sounds terrible

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900198
Sounds like a recipe for disaster, desu.
Of course, the twittard and leddit gonna clamoured this as game-changing moment, but we know they don't even watch stream, otherwise Kronii is the top EN now after her homocollab tweet declaration

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899557
You forgot the most important part of that sentence, “maybe”

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900141
Are you saying that EU is watching Kiara? Can you back up your claims please?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899847
>I actually don't even know a single good group vocaloid song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiEC329xPos

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900098
If JP management hasn't folded ID into themselves like Niji did with their version I doubt Cover will disband EN until the entire branch is 3 views or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900021
Once again, Ina is retired and therefore can't shill it. Two, the song is garbage. Three, subs are important for traction. Four, you're erroneously operating under a false belief that more people = more views for a cover. That isn't necessarily the case. Do you really believe a cover that only had Ina, Kronii, and Mori in it wouldn't do better than this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900183
>nijinigger

Nah I'm a JPchad. I'm still salty when Myth first debuted and mogged JP daily for over a year. Now the time has come for you tourists to realize that it was only a fad for westerners. Your numbers are dwindling rapidly and it shows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900135
Don't forget that they want to use default art for everything. The Halloween merch would have been defaults if the talents hadn't yelled at them.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright Kiara you have my 5 views a day and like, i wont turn on my toast for you tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900258
I would say she overall do better than Ina, Sparks/Violet released around the same time and it's an almost 1M advantage for sparks, Ina biggest cover song is on Kiara's channel (Iya x3) while Kiara still have her solo sengen cover above it

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900141
Then can you provide proof of your statement faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900323
>hello fellow Holo livers
>EN vs. JP amirite

[Anonymous No.]

New drama pls
Preferably HoloEN because NijiEN is worthless

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900323
>holo vs holo
>pretending be holoJP
still salyt about Kuzuha lost the gold in his BD, I see

[Anonymous No.]

Why doesn't EN have a tardwrangler yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900334
How about 1 smart bulb?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
You can't tard wrangle a group as diverse as HoloEN, its a lost cause from the start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900323
Myth didn't even mog JP for half a year if you're talking about CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
Mori is there. It's not possible to tardrangle Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900317
>cover that only had Ina, Kronii, and Mori in it wouldn't do better than this?
>All of the recent mori cover were a disaster
>Kronii's mafia cover did pretty meh
I can't honestly say I do believe it, only Ina still have any kind of pull in the trio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
There is no EN Fubuki that everyone in the branch looks up to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900104
Axel said he put out an open discord invitation and the slots were filled in 5 minutes
Kiara complained about not being able to join but honestly she was probably asleep when it filled up. Either that or she got ghosted by Axel because we already knew that at least one person (Bae or Risu, I forget who) had to drop out and got replaced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
half of them are retarded. The other half are doormats

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900323
Kys falseflagger

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899310
Kiaras music has always performed great, it doesn't surprise me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900327
Oh yeah i forgot about that. At least Gura has some level of quality control with her rejected crap that just post their face on stuff and calls it merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900198
Because then you'd have the problem of an extremely close gen with half of its members excluded from almost all the events. It would be a complete fucking disasters with beggars crying nonstop and drama from all sides. And worst of all the drama would actually spill to JP too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900317
>Once again, Ina is retired and therefore can't shill it.
>Ina actually raise for the death to shill her appearance in Marine's 3D
What did Ina mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900417
Kronii cover was doing pretty well but the drama killed it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900323
Nice larp, now go kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
She gave up

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900442
>>36900104
The funniest thing about this whole thing is that Kiara basically implied she was ghosted on purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

1m in 8hrs

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900487
>Ina actually raises for the death
Ina actually rises from the dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
Kiara gave up after the one year mark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900461
I guess the one silver lining is that we at least don't get the nijisanji recolored badges as merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
You are never going to be able to get the kind of organization you see in ID/JP from EN, even if you somehow got them all into one timezone for a long time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900355
You are right, but I still appriciated Ina's consistency, while Kiara had some oopsies in the past. But now that I look back at it, it seems like Ina's first bust is her cover with Sana, it's doing way worse than I thought it would.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900529
Only if it's on Kanatans channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900529
its Reines channel anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900529
on Reine channel? the only ones who can do that is Gura or Marine

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900532
Sorry, it;s just my usual esl ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900534
yep thats basically what i got from that too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900538
Now that you mention it even fucking ID has better cohesion than EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
It's pretty much impossible to wrangle Gura or Mori, let alone both at once when they're following such different paths.

[Anonymous No.]

So can Ame actually become EN Fubuki with her attitude?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900602
I mean, no shit, they all basically live next to each other except for maybe Kaela? ID1 even had an co habitation arc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900602
>Even fucking ID
>Why do the people who basically live in walking distance from each other are closer than people who're all over the world ?
retardchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900602
Of course nigga they lived at most an hour between each other. They're concentrated in Jakarta.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900602
living in the same city may help

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900602
Why the fuck wouldn't they? They all live in the same country and most of them live in Jakarta. Same with JP, they basically all live in Tokyo. Anyone expecting cohesion from EN when they all live scattered across 5 fucking countries is retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900624
Hell no, she doesn't have the charisma nor the entertainment factor that Fubuki has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900602
>>>>>>>>even fucking ID
they are closer than the JPs, it helps that there are only 9 of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900624
Nope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900629
Oh yeah I forgot about that. Glad they all made enough money to get their own places and equipment, I remember Risu was streaming off some shitty 6 year old gaming laptop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900371
Yeah no shit retardchama. We all knew before Myth's existence that if EN vtubing became a thing it'll be a disgusting mess full of western influence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900538
>MUUUUH TIMEZONES
They're streamers. They're not bound to the normal 9-5 workday. Many JP Holos stream at midnight JST and sleep til noon why can't the ENs do the same?

Any professional who works in a global team would be expected to wake up at night for zoom meetings set in another timezone why is it too much to ask a femoid earning more money than most surgeons to do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900668
Hell nah. She has too much ego and bitterness to actually become the EN Fubuki.

Unironically Bae is more fitting than Ame for that comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900624
She can try but as long as she keeps doing stuff like complaining she's not in the SNOT discord chat where they organized their first Rust collab, it'll come across as forced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900198
That would be fine as a cold start, not so much as doubling down on a failed attempt that already created a rift in the fanbase as-is.

The silent majority is silent, but as a rule they like the status quo, and dislike anything that detracts from it. Mixed gender Tempus colabs weren't just content they didn't want to watch - it also meant having less of the content they did want. Or they set off a total course change in content a la Kronii and now a bunch of people ended up stranded outta nowhere.

>>36900439
I'm willing to bet that person is actually Ina. Problem is, she's dead, mostly radio silent even internally, and is non-confrontational in general so she won't tardwrangle her coworkers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900713
>>36900624

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900630
You think personality doesn't come into play with this? Even if you're just a stone's throw away if you don't have synergy with each other then it still won't work

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900371
Global was kicked out on its ass because the JPchads knew it would turn into a reddit style shitfest. Don't pretend that at any point ENfags have been wanted or liked by JP viewers. Lets put it this way EN is to JP as Tempus is to EN

[Anonymous No.]

Remember Fauna?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900602
Anon ther are 10 Ens:
1 lives in Aussie land
2 live in japan (counting mori)
1 lives Austria
1 lives in East coast (gura)
2 live in Canada (both Koreans)
1 lives in Cali (ame)
Idk where Fauna or Moomers live but everyone is spread around. The equivalent would be if all ENs would live in Texas or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900770
>The equivalent would be if all ENs would live in Texas or something.
OTK v2 Hololive Bogaloo

[Anonymous No.]

I don't remember her whipping out the swimsuits this early

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900624
Fubuki has no problem making her unicorns/idol fags happy throwing them a bone their way a few times a month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900770
Even if they were all in the same city, they have different genes and backgrounds compared to ID or JP so it'll never be the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900770
Them all being in Texas wouldn't mean much, it has bigger area than all the places you mentioned put together

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900801
>OTK
Oh I wouldn't want that, some of them never even do solo streams anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900770
I don't know why they don't just move somewhere close to each other. Or like Cover can give them a base/studio to hangout at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900821
Maybe her fans are less retarded than the /vt/ population

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900861
Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900767
how could i forget

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900871
Maybe the problem isn't the fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900767
I wonder if she is bonding with Sana now

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900871
well, the EN girls shouldn't compete with /vt/ on retardation department then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900861
All of those pets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900770
Even if they were just neighbors in a single compound, Mori would Mori, the chicken would still be a stacy, it's not like living near to each other would magically solve their issues, it would help but they still wouldn't be enough

[Anonymous No.]

Not a single Niji stream from this collab is gonna get on the cripple tally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900953
I mean the one time they did a full gen offcollab ended up killing their unity entirely so you tell me kek

[Anonymous No.]

Slow...

[Anonymous No.]

>muh timezones when some Holos casually boots up Minecraft or retro games until 7 AM
Imagine having less stamina in your 20s than Japanese hags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900989
>Pomu mogging Luca
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900624
That's Bae

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900871
She does what she can, she streams often and does ASMR every now and then, she knows they're there and support her, and she doesn't lash out at her fans who actually care about her, she just does what she does

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900953
EN has like a 7/10 menhera ratio lol. Them living together would probably make things worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
Sana was a tardwrangler if you watched streams. She refused to read creepy SC's that people sent her and as a result her chat was chill and well behaved. Dunno why the other girls still can't wrangle their chats yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900998
Even until this day i have only watched the taste test stream of that whole collab event

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900861
Theres no location everyone would be happy with and wouldn't entail at least half of them uprooting their entire life
Not to mention issues like Internet. What place can handle 10 girls streaming all at once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900989
pretty decent numbers for Pomu tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901085
Austin, Texas

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901095
It's great for Pomu, shit for everyone else. It's probably because Pomu is the only popular girl streaming so she doesn't overlap much with the guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901061
>Dunno why the other girls still can't wrangle their chats yet.
They do, but it usually ends with them insulting them or telling them to stop watching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900989
>20k watching
Seems pretty good to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900989
Pomu passed Shu now
I guess quality just naturally rises to the top and Pomu's fans are way more loyal than the Luxiemsisters were

[Anonymous No.]

I always got the impression EN side treats this as a part-time job while JP/ID have it as their full-time job, some having quit their day job to fully commit to it

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901061
Nigga their idea of wrangling chat is basically to antagonize all of their fans and immediately went "Don't watch if you don't like".

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
Maybe it's just the cultural difference? JP is autistic when it comes to senior-junior relationship. Also the JP tardwrangler (Fubuki/Mio) are generally older and have more industry experience so their advices are taken seriously even if they don't have big numbers like Marine or Pekora. If you have an EN who tries to tell others how to act she would just be laughed at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900998
Yeah and Mori chose TT instead of doing her DnD and the chicken's collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901183
Well of course, luxiem was the porn gen that got discarded as soon as their fans had masturbated for the evening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900989
Feel bad for Pomu being stuck in such a shitty company. With her work ethic and talent she would have done amazingly well in Holo EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
Mori's incredibly successful and hasn't gotten into any trouble outside of the cuckbeat comic, no one in EN really needs wrangling

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901187
Calli alone has been more active in her RM, dividing her attention between Holo and her RM, trying to juggle both while failing at both

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901196
I wonder their insistence on not caring about seniority would allow for someone to become a tardwrangler in EN3 in some roundabout way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901220
Kek it's still funny how she scheduled it outta nowhere because she knows that there will be a backlash. The delay it in favor of TT's DnD

And i guess it's pretty much cancelled now at this point lmao. I said it before and I'll say it again, the dead of Myth's unity started after notMori did that infamous "Applebee's" stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900998
Heh, I saw that thread. It really felt like the end watching that offcollab. Felt like they had a good ride and an offcollab was a good way to cap it, they had pretty much done all there is it do. They debuted 3Ds, had anniversaries and birthdays, albums, works, projects done. I feel like it's it for Myth, their idol journey is kinda over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901308
What did she say about applebitches again, that she hates Myth?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901273
Is she even big enough to fail as her RM?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901250
She wanted to choose Niji so it's all on her. She probably would have been an easy Holo hire if she went for Council after having more streaming experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901344
Likes the company and her coworkers, doesn't like the fans.

[Anonymous No.]

The en branch is trying their branch when their management are legit animals. The members can only do so much. This the type of person running holo en keep that in mind.
https://streamable.com/4xg8dq

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901344
Nah about the customers being ass or shit. When I said it it's more on the moment where unity won't be possible anymore because Mori is not fully committed as "Mori" from that point on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901250
yeah her and Selen have an unstoppable work ethic but they're really wasted on Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901380
I actually feel kinda bad for the deadbeats

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901308
She herself said on her first collab with vesper that she doesn't consider myth dnd but i really don't see them picking it up anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901417
She obviously meant the unicorns which she had an obvious disdain for, not her own fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901392
My esl ass couldn't understand what's happening here, qrd anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901392
What am I listening for here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901455
No she meant the trolls

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901250
nice bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901419
*doesn't consider myth dnd DEAD

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901406
They've still done good for themselves but there's kind of a hard limit on what you can achieve with that devalued brand dragging you down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901398
Didn't the tempus faggot do something similar recently?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901491
>>36901504
You can legit hear their manager making animal noises in the background.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901568
Yeah, notMagni. In tweet form. He actually openly trashed his model too kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901568
Yeah, Altare. Pretty much made the same Applebitches analogy and shit on the fans who don't support tempus because they're male

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901568
what he did was make some diner analogy about how he can't succeed because he doesn't have the right uniform (implying his model sucks ass and it's hurting his growth)
he didn't shit on the fans though

>>36901647
Did he do RM shit? I thought he just threatened to fight a chatter who called them leeches

[Anonymous No.]

Lucubs on suicide watch after this terrible showing. He's pretty shit at this game now that he can't read chat and cheat. Pomuchads stay winning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901632
>>36901647
Wait who? I knew that the blue faggot cracked due to a single comment on his stream but i don't think i heard about him tweeting about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901392
That's Pekora's monkey, stop baiting anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901726
you can make up anything on the internet

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901694
>implying his model sucks ass and it's hurting his growth
Magni "I will stream debuff the first week so that people will only tune in for me" Dezmond

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901726
Magni is the who shit on his model on rm
Altare didn't do roommate shit he just gets aggressive with people in his chat who shits on tempiss

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901535
>>36901374
>>36901406
holoniggers really are fucking full of themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901705
Oh right, that's the dude who blatantly cheats in Amogus by getting his chat to tell him who the imposter is. Did they make a disabled chat rule or something just to make him play fair?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901535
At this point Pomu and Selen can get low tier HoloEN numbers sometimes and for whatever reason were spared the general EN decline of the past few months, so their sitting pretty good right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901705
>13k on backrooms
>10k on Niji clip reactions
Luca is doing great retard kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901705
Bruh why are they doing this on EU primetime wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901308
Engish

[Anonymous No.]

we love lucubs here

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901813
?? it's a nijibeggar implying that the brand is holding them back

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901836
>the niji girls that do the best are the ones with the highest holo overlap
really makes you think

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901857
go all in and post the tweet, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901855
because a good bunch of them live in europe/australia

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901417
Why do these western bitches not understand that they're in the entertainment industry, the fans prop them up, and if they have any issues with bad actors then they should address it properly without antagonizing their fans, if you can't keep it shut then seek advice, always address this kind of things with decorum, keeping it real isn't always the best option

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901823
Every new thing I hear about Luca makes out to be even more of an asshole than I already thought he was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901872
Go back to your stream faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901187
That’s because you’re a retarded fucking EOP who has no fucking clue how many in JP have active roommates with open Fanboxes who actively stream, put out music or other things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901872
Luca shouldn't you be focused on your stream right now and not shitposting /here/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901872
we love niji here

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901876
Funny considering how Furen, Mito, Salome, Lize, Ange, Nui, Sasaki and many others are fair above them and dont have overlap

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901872
Wrong thread, try here >>36896959

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901876
I wonder if one of the reasons they didn't decline along with the others is because they siphoned a few viewers off the Holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901874
then he's just as fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901913
Who apart from La+ does it at a detriment to their hololive persona?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901929
You can bring up nijiJP when Kuzuha can win a gold again

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900764
That’s why /hlg/ is so active nowadays? Oh wait no, you had to come squat here because you killed yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36898561
>jp7
I don’t want the jp branch to accelerate

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901974
>Bronze boi on his birthday

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901843
>Leeching off Shu
>Leeching off of literally the rest of NijiEN
Damn what a powerhouse lol. Fuck off back to /nenmen/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901843
I dunno man you just made him sounded like a shameless leech

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901972
Just off the top of my head you could easily list Mel and AZKi, Robocos been active on her roommate while on a dead cat break. That is 0 research just off the top of my head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902072
Oh so you just mean some of the least popular members in all of hololive lmao
Most of the ones who have the active fanboxes also happen to be the least successful. Noel is like the one exception.
Laplus with a game stream fucking lost to a watame SC reading today so it doesn't seem like that shit flies in japan either

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900568
Pretty sure that one was post algorithm change similar to Fever Night or the Pavonashi Animal cover.
And while you can say that Ina is more consistent there's also the fact that she has a lot fewer covers and originals out compared to Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902072
>does it at a detriment to their hololive persona?
I love the girls but the ones you've listed were never that popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>36897708
>no EN
How do we save EN market?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902146
>The biggest vtuber in both EN and JP are the one who does not have active RMs
Makes you think

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900568
I completely forgot that they had a cover together

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902191
Has it occurred to you maybe AZKi would perhaps be more popular if she streamed more than once a month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900021
>in fact Kiara best duo cover is also with Ina
That's because it's by far the best song with both amazing performance and MV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902207 (me)
>>36902139

[Anonymous No.]

Now that you are talking about RMs, I've just realised that all the top members don't have an active RM account

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902207
I think you replied to the wrong post buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

what kind of name is ars anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902277
I already corrected it anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902234
Has it occurred to you maybe AZKi never streamed regularly and was only officially a part of hololive recently where she saw most of her incline?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
Kiara was Myths tardwrangler in the beginning but being the tardwrangler is a generally thankless, loveless job and not worth the reward.
For Council I think people thought it'd be Bae but I guess it turned out to be Fauna? Idk Council never really needed it the same way Myth did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902258
Doesn't Pekora rm have a twitter? Does that count?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902258
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
ANON IS BAITING FOR DOXX
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902323
Active, and I don't consider tweeting a sentence each 2-3 weeks an active account (not talking about Pekora)

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902323
When was her last tweet? October of 2021? So no

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902323
Not what I call an active account. But yes all the first army holos don't have active RM accounts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902258
Pekora wanted to do some sinful womanposting so she's finally opened a second Twitter account at least

[Anonymous No.]

wrong board kings

[Anonymous No.]

While we’re here is Katamari buff, debuff? Who’s played it before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902387
Heck even 2nd army doesn't

[Anonymous No.]

Personally I think girls are at their cutest when they pee themselves while wearing clothes, holos should get onto this trend to bolster their CGDCT level

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902471
On the top of my head Matsuri has somewhat already done this, Mio to a certain extent and I seem to vaguely recall other holos but can't quite remember

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902471
Noel wore a diaper when doing the horror 3D punishment game with Peko since she was worried she'd piss herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902471
How about menstruate on-stream? Gura experienced it kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902548
>not having a menstruation app to avoid that situation
Peko was ahead of the curve all along

[Anonymous No.]

Any cripple gold candidate from HoloEN tonight, lads?

[Anonymous No.]

I find it fascinating that we managed to hit the bump limit without even spending that much more than a footnote talking about ongoing streams, maybe we are EN3 that provides the entertainment to ourselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901392
A FUCKING MONKEY

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902703
Funny enough, we have 4 holoEN stream tonight, and I don't think any have a chance to break 5K. Kromei will if it's a single POV but in a split pov, no way

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902703
Maybe the kronmei collab, unless Kronii managed to sink that whole dynamic to the bottom of the ocean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902796
Split POV + shit game. The homo collab will beat it

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901956
Those two are just outright the best vtubers in the branch. Say what you will about Niji's vicious survival-of-the-fittest strategy, it can force people to stay on their A game rather than just being successful by default and get lazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902815
I'm not sure it's a split pov, the last time they streamed the game, they did it as a single POV (which is retarded, but whatever)

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901892
>Why do these western bitches not understand that they're in the entertainment industry
They do understand, it’s the dissonance between being
>an entertainer
and being
>an artist
that is lost in the western world of entertainment.

An entertainer is a professional paid to keep an audience, well, entertained.
If the audience is thinning from a previous height it’s a sign of a bad entertainer or a bad choice of entertainment and it’s the duty of the professional and his team to figure out how to turn the ship around.
That is because, ultimately, the audience are the customers of the product being provided.

An artist, conversely, does not even need to be a professional and in most cases he’s not.
The ultimate goal of an artists in most cases is to find an outlet to express their creativity and find self satisfaction.
If that expression finds an audience to appreciate it, even better, but the purpose of creating art is not to please the audience but to satisfy THE ARTIST and if the audience doesn’t appreciate it, well, they should just leave and stop being an audience to it.

The main difference between the entertainment industries in the western world and elsewhere is that, in the modern western entertainment industry, the content creator is viewed as an artist (as described above) and not as an entertainer.
And that’s how their audience behaves as well and demands anyone expressing even justified displeasure to just go the fuck away because you can’t really request improvement from an artist, his output is by definition always perfect as it is.

[Anonymous No.]

KONKOYO MOTHERFUCKERS, GATHER AND WATCH KOYORI'S HOT NEWS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJuBXsMPWvE

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902703
NijiEN lineup today is really weak so unless there's a guerilla buff stream it'll just be Kromei single POV with like 7k. Their last one was single POV 8.3k

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902788
Bae can probably get 6-7k with Little Nightmares at Gura time

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902737
I was surprised no one brought up vesper's pony stream but tbf there was no way I was watching that shit either

>>36902796
They got pretty pathetic numbers the last time. Very slippable

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902885
I really don't think so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902703
Oh wait I forgot Magni Vesper drunk offcollab karaoke. That should win, right? It's like the buffest thing they can do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902889
I missed the first 5 minutes but he never even brought up the pony thing during the rest of the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902861
>And that’s how their audience behaves as well and demands anyone expressing even justified displeasure to just go the fuck away because you can’t really request improvement from an artist, his output is by definition always perfect as it is.
No wonder Ame-Kiara-Kronii are the shitter of the branch kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902909
not him but you're a retard, but I guess that's to be expected considering this the numbers thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902934
Sub 10k. Neither one can sing or is a cute girl with sovl

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902861
So what you are saying is... western entertainers are all the "me me me" shitposts personified?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900383
EN is on HoloJP Gen2 state and it needs its Gamers.
EN needs Hags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902972
Sub 10k will be enough to win today I'm pretty certain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903069
The reason it takes such a long time is because they are waiting for the current candidates to become hags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902965
Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903153
>no u
I accept your concession

[Anonymous No.]

>The reason Cvoer doesn't want to expand into Europe is because Europeans only watch JP and ID while ignoring EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903153
That was under heavy overlap in a worse timeslot, so we'll see how that affects numbers

[Anonymous No.]

/hlg/ reclined
/vt/ reclined
Western VTubing reclined
JP didn't recline
So where did the people go?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903240
I mean euro only have Kiara as their holo chuba so I can understand why they ignored EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900417
>>Kronii's mafia cover did pretty meh
yet hers and mumei's cover dropped a few days apart and mumei's still at 400K while kronii's is over a million. keep reaching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903288
anon... dan dan is about to hit 2 million...

[Anonymous No.]

I was thinking about Nodoka and what the purpose of someone like her is. We know from Mito that she does work on setting up behind the scenes. I was thinking it's really strange for someone as popular as nodoka to be doing labor type stuff. Then maybe she's there to set up for popular people. In hollywood you hear about superstars that won't talk to staffers. Perhaps you make one of the staff a bit of a star to put them on, an if not even then a somewhat similar playing field.
There must be a few of those in the vtuber industry that consider themselves above the staff. Nodoka builds rapport with the stars through events while still being staff and someone they can become comfortable working along side without feeling too superior. Maybe I'm overthinking it but that's what comes to mind when I hear that she just happens to be the staff member setting up for Mito.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903276
I want my spanish mamasita, thick accent british lady, latex wearing dom german mama, husky french girl, loli swede

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903240
Euros don't watch or donate to anyone. If no one's kicking a ball around for 60 minutes without scoring once, they aren't interested.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903370
>the purpose of someone like her is
To relieve the sexual frustrations of A-chan, the primary reason that they put a ban between talent and staff relationships was solely to save the talents from her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903312
And it probably lost a million with the take down and reupload time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903240
The only metric we have to determinate viewership per country is superchat, and no, EU viewers don't watch JP, nor ID. Even this almost one year old document with the viewership per continent brekadown for Gura, Moona and one JP I forgot had almost no EU viewership. Kiara failed to open the EU market, but she still have BY FAR the most EU donation, so supposedly the biggest EU viewership in holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903370
You are overthinking. Nodoka is just normal staff, she just has a model

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903376
NijiEN really dropped the ball with Scarle's casting

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903240
Euros don’t watch anyone.

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>>36902979
>western entertainers are all the "me me me" shitposts personified
No, I am saying something even more encompassing: for the longest time in western orthodoxy there is no such thing as an "entertainer" anymore, and anyone expressing themselves creatively is considered an "artist" and treated as such, even when it is clear that the output of their work has no artist merit or creativity attached to it.

I'll give an example of one of the last pure entertainers: Frank Sinatra.
His job from 1935 to 1995 was to sing and, for the second half of his career, to sing the same 10 to 20 songs which he did pretty much until he died.

And as a counterpoint, here is an example of one of the first modern "artists": John Lennon.
For four years he toured with the Beatles to entertain a HUGE crowd of adoring fans. Then for two more years he helped to create some more masterpieces, recorded in the studio.

Then he was convinced all of that was worthless and that it was not the true expression of his creativity and he and Yoko Ono went to make this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj98tqAsuD4
Try to listen to this without closing in 60 seconds
(hard mode: no portals)

That mentality, more or less since then, is what is the new normal in the western entertainment. There are no more entertainers, for the most part, everybody is an "artist".

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903370
Cover is just mirroring Idolmaster lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903370
She's basically a staffer who is A-chan's (producer/director) assistant that also works PR.
Seeing as she's corporate personnel, it makes sense that she would want to promote Stars as much as she can if she thinks it might help them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903276
The thing about Kiara is that she didn't actually stream for EU for a good while early on
Whenever it was a good thing for her EU popularity or not is up to question

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902451
Really? Nobody has any idea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903495
God fucking damn it, her model was nice then when she opened her mouth she sounded like a southern burger

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903509
This might be the very reason i gravitated towards japanese entertainment now when i think about it, not that it's some superior folded a thousand times bullshit, but simply because it's easier to find entertainers that actually entertain

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902451
https://youtu.be/Wh-RIZq3GMQ
Subaru has

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903495
Everyone in ILuna was a missed opportunity. If those models had fit the voices people would have been shitting on Tempus during that time instead. I bet Cover was sweating bullets when they saw the models then started laughing when they heard the voices and social views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903573
would be justified to swap models with Reimu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903616
Meanwhile in reality, 3 of them have more than decent views and SC while the other two are making bank in SC. Only Aster is on a not ideal situation

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara doesn't even stream for euros, by the time she reaches actual EU prime time she's reading fucking SCs for the 2-3 fucking hours of EU prime time, her time schedule is literally the worst, there is no way to debuff herself more than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903509
>John Lennon
I blame Yoko Ono.
https://youtu.be/ZbGuxGGOIV0?t=116

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903616
Except for Kyo, all voices fit

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901694
>how he can't succeed
not true. He said he's lucky the uniform doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903616
Those initial tweets set such a fucking grim tone that even the nijien thread /here/ was in despair

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903679
>Decent views
nta but example? because i feel whenever I see iLuna's ccv on vrabi they always stuck on 1k-ish viewers, with Scarle, Aia, and Aster already on 3 views now

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder what Pekora has planned for next year, she has basically free reign to do whatever she can imagine to take advantage of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903681
>by the time she reaches actual EU prime time she's reading fucking SCs for the 2-3 fucking hours of EU prime time
That's 4-6 am JST, so it's whenever Ina stream started, isn't it? Then was Ina actually the EU chuba of Holo after all?
Saying this because I genuinely don't know when is what considered as EU prime time

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903837
I don't know either and i'm yuro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902465
eh shion tried, but then she got relentlessly shit on so she retreated to higher tiers of fanbox

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903733
Kyo and Scarle are huge miscasts for me, Aia social views, Maria male live in, Ren couldn't entertain his way out of a wet paper bag. The whole thing was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903598
This is one of the reasons why I seek foreign entertainment, JP comedy for example goes to certain extents that the west would barely touch, I like the boke tsukomi dynamic, and the slapstick humor that they still do, for burgerland I like standup but that also is taking a hit from being too political and there haven't been that much that really stood out

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903837
Ina started at like 11PM most of the time, still better than six hours long stream starting at 3PM

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903737
He was being sarcastic you troglodyte. That's the point of the analogy. Because uniforms DO help diners

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903598
Japan has their share of artist - entertainers as well.
Actually, you don't need to go too far to figure that out, Nijisanji's very own Hajime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGb6iAEA914

Hajime spent the first 30 minutes of his 3D debut sat in perfect seiza doing a style of japanese entertainment called Yose (寄席), which is pretty much a stand up comedy act except it's sit and not very comedic.
It fits his character lore and is actually a form of japanese art but it is DEFINITELY not entertaining, it is an expression of art and creativity to be appreciated by few.

Japan has several of these forms of entertainment which aren't really "entertainment" in the sense described and more on the "art" side.
The only thing that separates that from what I described in the western world is that I am not in position to call it "crap" or "genius" because I wouldn't be able to differentiate one from another.

The western world has its share of good entertainment. Japan has their share of crap pseudo artistic expressions.
You and I are lucky to have found entertainment at the other side of the kaigai pond but there is nothing inherent in their entertainment that would make it easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903738
I don't follow any Niji's outside of JP so I didn't see the initial tweets. I just saw the models and thought they looked good before they started talking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903991
There are people so dumb that "punctuation" like the reddit
>/s
or the twitter
>:^)
had to be invented because they can't figure out sarcasm from context

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903976
ywnbj

[Anonymous No.]

Can you guys stop talking about my oshi? Thankiez

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904118
Why would I? I never wanted to be one, I just want to wife my oshi

[Anonymous No.]

AsaKoyo is reclining...

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903987
I mean Ina starting time for the past 2 years has always been hovering aroung 5-7 am JST, and that's Kiara SC reading time most of the time (assuming she's not fucked off already). So if eubros problem is due to Kiara already on SC reading whenever they watch her stream, It's starting to make sense why Ina used to be "Ms. 10k" back then, isn't it? Because the eu watched her instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903837
EU primetime is roughly 10:00 to 15:00 PST, at least based on what I remember from Twitch numbers. Like others said, Kiara's doing SCs by the time primetime rolls around, and only Ina consistently offers anything at all in that timeslot; Fauna's timeslot in this block is usually a smidge too late.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904211
Can't even reach 18k naturally anymore!

Anyway, is it me or Koyori talks SUPER FAST but her japanese is very easy to understand?
Compared with Luna, Haachama, Marine and Miko it's a fucking breeze

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904008
Rakugo is rough, I only appreciated it a bit more because of the anime and Yamasaki and even then in JP it's a dying form of entertainment

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904248
There's no proof of EU watching Ina. 80% of her SC are from NA., a good 15% is from Asia, maybe 5% are from EU, at most, and that's VERY generous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904264
It's not as much as it's dying, but that it is not meant for mass consumption.
It's a lot like their tea ceremony, it is meant as a bonding ritual between the host and the audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903775
You can see their median. Maria, Kyo and Ren are most of the times either above 1k or over 2k. Aster is the one below and without much going on for him

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904258
>>>/jp/hlg

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904331
Why the fuck would you SC while falling asleep in your bed

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904331
Or, the alternative way to look at it is
>EU wont' SC for whatever reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904248
yup soothing streams to concile the bed, some of the early fauna streams are good tho, i miss you inya...

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904008
Rakugo is a 19th century popular entertainment, not an art form.
Today, it remains only as a traditional culture.
It may not be enjoyed as a comedy now.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck it give me your predictions for Katamari and Little Nightmares. Expected, underperformance and overperformance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904407
anything with mori is underperformance. Rrat gonna do LN in Gura slot uncontested tho so expect 6-7k

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904371
It wouldn't explain Kiara managing to get decent EU sc, despite not streaming in EU primetime. If we accept that EU watch Ina and not Kiara : Either EU do SC, and Ina should get the most of it while Kiara would get less (in percentage of their total SC, of course), or EU don't SC and neither Kiara nor Ina should get much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904396
>It may not be enjoyed as a comedy now.
Is it because it's no longer funny nowadays due to cultural shift or is because the people performing it didn't update their material?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904341
There have been breakouts that have helped it but didn't they have fewer masters handing down their names? Like Tsukitei, and as I recall lesser traditional halls as well since they were repurposed or torn down

[Anonymous No.]

Mayori talking about numbers on the news

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904371
I certainly don't, but i buy merch whenever it's available, dunno how it is for the rest of them though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904439
I dunno man, just throwing theories out there, because it's just weird if we assume EU problem with Holo is due to Kiara already on sc reading whenever they hit prime time, since Kiara's sc reading slots are most of the time coincide with Ina's starting time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904477
Ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904371
No tips. I'll keep my money for something tangible, like merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904490
The actual truth is that euros don't give a shit about tipping so SCs are mostly no go and with their choice of streams holos are no go as well outside of occasional stream so they don't get to experience the box and thus don't really care about hololive as a whole

[Anonymous No.]

Counter point, EU is watching Watame and Flare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904459
>the people performing it didn't update their material?
Come on mang, they traditionally used the same stories but expressed them differently through different performers, if I'm not mistaken that's what the anime tried to convey that tradition is good but the art also needs to adapt

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904371
Euro's seems to be more willing to SC for events or celebrations. While still nowhere near the NA SC she got, Fauna still got quite a respectable amount in different European currencies for her Anniversary considering she usually starts at Midnight for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904434
Why do I even fucking bother?

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't been here in a while
How grim was the EN side without Gura and Fauna?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904643
CAD and EURO is at about 12 euro difference with the current conversion

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904459
I don't know about that, but it would be good to try some 新作落語 to find out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904643
When did that stream start and end in yuro time? If she started the usual time some yuros might have been able to catch her before heading out to work

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904764
We only have Kiara, Mori, Ame, and Kronii as active streamers now.
The debuff queens of HoloEN.
So you tell me, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904764
very

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904795
It was her 12 Hour, and I remember it starting some hours earlier than her usual slot, so the start was good for Euros.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904789
What's the difference? I only know that the traditional rakugo always used the same stories, how do they do the new form?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904459
>Is it because it's no longer funny nowadays due to cultural shift or is because the people performing it didn't update their material?
They're not supposed to. It's similar to their shamizen tradition, same pieces, minute differences in execution.

It's not that different from western opera as well, there is a handful of pieces and most modern attempts are subpar.

[Anonymous No.]

What happened? Why did she recline?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904781
I was just lumping US and Canada together when I said NA SC. But lumping the different European currencies together in my head quickly I think it comes out to around 300k yen at the time.

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>>36904764
don't look at the grim posting from the top of this thread

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>>36904901
I see, some friends of mine are fucking weird about watching anime and steams in the morning instead of the evening so i thought maybe it was the case for more yuros

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>>36904944
>shamizen tradition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx76YPgZviE

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>>36904952
What are you talking about?

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>>36904985
nta, but that's an outlier, not the norm unless something changed already

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>>36904643
isn't this still kinda bad? I mean the hours were pretty bad for JP and yet she got more yen

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently hlgg is arguing about the amount of streams, are one of you there to rile them up?

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>>36905014
I was trying to get her to 14k before tarot reading but I failed….

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>>36904917
新作落語 is Rakugo that tells a newly created story.
It is adapted to the modern sense of laughter.

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>>36905084
There are other European currencies than just the Euro.

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>>36905107
>willingly going to global
I may be retarded but I still have some self respect

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>>36897116
I mean, is it really a surprise that she would get help from someone who has experience in dealing with management and can speak Japanese?

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>>36897610
I drew something for today's tally

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>claim EU is huge untapped market but consistently gave shit number to any stream on their primetime
>claim EU has huge purchasing power but curency barely visible on any stream's superchat
>barely support their chuuba, the one who catered to them the most can't even sell her merch faster than a fucking ID
>yet constantly beg to be catered to and wish for more chuuba to stream at EU friendly hour
Yuropoors don't deserve shit

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>>36905134
Sure but adding those on doesn't make the performance significantly better than the yen
Which considering that she went through EU prime time, is really pathetic

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>>36905212
noice

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>>36905107
You mean everyone is calling you a retarded faggot who can’t make a good graph to save his life?

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>>36905212
Not bad, keep it up

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>>36905130
Holostats caught the 14k at least.

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>>36905247
I'm not him, but feel free to go off if that makes you feel better.

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>>36905030
>unless something changed already
It didn't.

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I will kill Omega

[Anonymous No.]

This consistency and incline is a thing of beauty.
>Ninety nine Asakoyo since Dec 01
She's inclining too, from humble beginnings under 10k to never failing to beat 12k

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>>36905282
>Claim Tempus killed collabs
>people point out it stops before Tempus debuted, arbitrarily excludes collabs, is a dogshit, poorly labeled graph and ignores context
>Tries to run to # to go come look hoping people will side with him

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>>36897712
Would Amelia organize another collab marathon to make us like this faggots? I bet even reddit shills would be pretty bored with homos at this point. Anyway I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped homoEN2 around the same time niji is doing their all male gamers. No idea who would get bigger numbers out of this two, it doesn't matter anyway.

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>>36905388
BASED MAYO DOG

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>>36895279
I would be okay with roommate shit if it was actually some artsy style "that they couldn't sell" but if you actually read the lyrics it's not even subtle that it's a message to her fans about how she really feel about them and her whole Mori persona but in the same time it's stuff she doesn't have the guts to say in their face from behind her avatar. I remember Mori thread had a bit of a meltdown at the time because turns out she finds her goslings cringe.
Anyway I don't want to call Mori a parasite when Kronii exists, she produced quite a bit of music that did good or even great numbers and came up with stuff like eikawa even in her "I don't care anymore" phase, at least you can't say she's lazy (unlike some other members) because we know she actually have things to do when she's not streaming as Mori but a lot of this things are a waste of time and energy.

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>>36905519
>5 hour old crosspost
I actually remember defending her way back then outside of /here/ because i didn't know any better.

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>>36897712
I think even the biggest homobeggars would complain

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>>36905519
that's the thing isn't it? Mori has the the perfect start to be a very big holo, yet she squandered it.
Like we already have the perfect template for any musically-incline holo in Suisei, but for whatever reason she decided to went full retard with that oppurtunity.

Like it's not even a coincidence that all top holos does not have an active RM. meanwhile Mori "Used to be" a decently big holo but she decided to went fuck all with it just because some fans called her retarded

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>>36905519
That's what really turned me off of her. I checked out her roommate once and got the impression that she finds holo fans gross and cringes every time she has to be Mori. Then I just couldn't help but notice it a bit more every time I watched her stream. So I just bailed.

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ENshart status?

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>>36905700
Good morning

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>>36905680
>Like we already have the perfect template for any musically-incline holo in Suisei
Anon, there's a reason there's only ONE Suisei in all of V-Tubing
You talking like "Just do as Gura bruh", which only sounds attractive in theory, not practice

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>>36905519
For Kronii she refuses to use her persona to boost her VA career, while in Mori's case her RM got boosted by her Holo identity, she did produce some but it's not in the realm where it really pushed Holo forward more than it already had, the time, and effort she puts on her RM is less time she does with her Holo career.
If she really is shitting on her fans then at least it shows on her current numbers, the fans will eventually leave if you keep on antagonizing them, Mori would not be where she is if not for her fans

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>>36905388
sasuga leeching queen

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>>36902451
katamari should have a good formula for being a buff; simple story and good gameplay. it unfortunately has its very short heyday on the ps2 era that only have half the millenials know what it is.

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>>36905851
Nta but literally all she had to emulate from Suisei is
>going all in with your Holo career
That should be easy for anyone to emulate. But Mori gonna mori, i guess.

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I can't really explain this and need help
>Pomu unironically outranked 3 Luxiem boys in a collab
No funny business, no Z, no nothing, they were collabing and she outranked them.

What the absolute fuck happened with Luxiem?!?
It is not even the two with the biggest exposure to China and SEA, it's the other three.

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>>36905913
Does Suisei even have another RM account to fall back to? If I remember correctly, she's already started as a VTuber before joining Cover, no?

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>>36905950
Was she the imposter a majority of the time? I find that whoever gets imposter gets a buff.

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>>36905950
imposter buff?

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>>36905969
>Does Suisei even have another RM account to fall back to?
She owns "Hoshimashi Suisei" lock stock and barrel. She might now own any model provided by Cover but whenever she would want she could simply commission a new model and continue being Suisei.
Between Hololive and Nijisanji there are only vtubers in this situation
>Suisei
>Kuzuha

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>>36905969
Suisei has no active roommate activity after she nuked her twitter

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>>36905950
Selen was in the collab but didn't stream her POV, so they probably opted to watch Pomu's POV.
>>36905986
She was only an imposter for the first two rounds. She hit higher peaks as the stream went on.

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>>36905950
Might be a combination of Being Imposter and having little overlap with the others streaming compared to the 4 boys that share an audience.

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Reminder that Suzy was a nobody until she got to 500k subs. Some people bloom late. I'm still waiting for Chloe to get her hit song.

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>>36905969
By the time she left Cover, she will retire back home, together with me, and build a happy family with 10 children

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>Mori has another announcement stream coming soon
She's really killing this announcement buff isn't she?

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>>36905851
It's called a template for a reason anon. You can modify it, but you generally gonna follow through it.

And like another anon has said, all she had to do is the most basic stuff from Suisei, and that is focusing all of your passion on your Holo career. Hell, Mori already has a better start than Suisei back then.

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Pomu is absolutely the strongest Nijigirl now. Selen and Enna BTFO. She gets Kiara numbers on a regular basis.

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>>36905986
>>36906016
>>36906075
Being the impostor might have buffed her POV but it doesn't look like that would be it. She just never stopped inclining

>>36906068
>Selen was in the collab but didn't stream her POV, so they probably opted to watch Pomu's POV.
My amazement is less about her number (4k would be par for her course in a buffed stream lately) but how the fuck not a single of the Luxiem boys in the collab hit 5k.

AmongUs is not that type of game collab that would their their girls off, is it?

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>>36906080
If I remember right she got her stride after hololive first fes

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>>36906152
Just what happened to Selen? She used to be 4k and crawling to that 5k awhile ago. Seems the algo change hurt her or something

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>>36905969
Suisei put all her chips on Suisei. She owns the IP as far as I can tell but she didn't divide her fan base. Mori on the other hand has RM fans that seem to hate holofans so they don't watch Mori and holofans that don't want to be looked down on so they don't watch RM. She perfectly divided her fanbase and in the process ran off a lot of it by not being able to really commit.

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>>36905626
Biggest homobeggars tend to be nijis who want hololive to fail so I doubt it, the reception would be much more negative all across the board in comparison to tempiss that actually took some time to swing the pendulum against themselves (that Kronii stuff in particular) now we know to expect: more mixed gender collabs, entitled faggots who want to feel like the main branch, more twitch e-celebs, more fujos and probably some shipping.

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>>36905862
kys nijishit

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>>36906133
There is one funny thing about Mori that can be seen between her first and her second appearance on Trash Taste

In her first appearance she was
>I fought really hard and now I got to the top, and I'll do my best to go even higher
and in the second
>yeah, I understand what I said in the first show was a little cringe. I didn't reach this point because of hard work, it was luck
(and the hosts agreed)

This is not a literal quote but a paraphrase but the sentiment is there.
Her "friends" figuratively BEAT the hard work mentality out of her and, at the same time, imbued her with the same "vtubers are cringe" mentality that is pervasive in the western scene.

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>>36906176
I think it might be because the collab was during EU hours, and Luxiem very rarely streams during EU hours (it's usually Vox/Mysta/Ike in Asia hours, Shu NA hours, and Luca very late NA), so they never built much of an EU fanbase, and the EU fanbase they do have was split between 3 POVs, resulting in low peaks for all of them.

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>>36906318
Luxiem reclined massively in the past few month
>pic related
It might be more than the slot, but it makes sense

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>>36905969
Suisei has a roommate account in the same way ame does
you can point to a bunch of links but nothing's there anymore

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>>36906304
>I didn't reach this point because of hard work, it was luck
Fucking twat, luck is a part of it but you wouldn't be able to get in if it not for the hard work you've put into it

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>>36906373
luxiem really needed a full male gen instead of a mixed one to keep the things interesting for the sisters

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>>36906120
She gets Mori announcements, Hololive announcemenz and UMG announcements.

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>>36906304
>Her "friends" figuratively BEAT the hard work mentality out of her and, at the same time, imbued her with the same "vtubers are cringe" mentality that is pervasive in the western scene.
Eh, I'd say the "Hard work" Mori is still there, is just that if you split your 100% of your effort across 2 accounts, it will just be 50% compare to if you spend 70% on only 1

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>>36906080
Wrong. She was starting to get popular after her first 3D and her clips and memes started booming.

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>>36906373
Damn, what the fuck happened after August that caused almost everyone to decline?

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>>36906304
Kind of takes me back to the off collab when she had to break off from the party to stream. It got overlooked cause of the Gura stuff but, I remember she was saying something about the guests having a negative reaction to her going off to stream and she told them that she has to do this to afford all the stuff they see there. She didn't defend it but explained that she had to do this for the money. Those are the kinds of friends that look down on Vtubing while leeching off her and she can't even defend herself while they're using her money in her Airbnb. All she can do is tell them it's about the money.

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>>36906579
school

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>>36906579
Tempus and Iluna

>>36906607
if it was school then why are they still reclining through october and november

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https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/9a2bfa4f927d418928a7013b87b7afbce9c1b1a4
Pekora on the news. Truly the protagonist of Hololive.

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>>36906600
They weren't her friends, and she wasn't the one who invited them, it was her sister birthday, and her sister's friends.

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>>36906579
Yo momma, apparently. I'm not Chinese enough to understand B2 rrats myself, but the timing lines up, and the constant recline isn't explained by normies touching grass alone.

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>>36906600
>t. nada cahoona calli

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>>36906579
tempus and iluna pretty much killed the entire EN corpo momentum

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>>36906304
Mori really needed a successful mentor to talk to, someone who has achieved even more than she has, rather than her friend group of failed internet rappers and failed vtubers and mediocre streamers who pull her down with crabs-in-a-bucket talk because they secretly didn't like seeing her achieve so much. Oh well

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>>36906600
Those were her sister's friends.
That aside, her family seems to have the same attitude, they don't respect her vtuber/streamer gig at all. They seem to think Mori makes all her money from music alone.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqbtTwIpEno
Collab seems to be on Mumei's channel today. The last time they did it, it was a 1 PoV stream, right?

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>>36906120
>promoting your stuff is ad now

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>>36906832
Are there even any smallcorps or indies doing well? Phase's new gen seemed to lose steam, VShojo are lazy and sliding back, even leech king Shoto has reclined.

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>>36897610
Recent clip numbers
>>36880720
>>36880750
>>36880805
>>36880822
>>36880847

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>>36906908
I meant bad but it’s funnier this way

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>>36906908
If everything is a "special announcement" nothing is special and NijiEN more than proved that.
People in her very own fandom are already going
>yeah, another song yay!
with the accompanying eye rolling

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>>36906860
if Mori debuted while being in USA the family would mindfuck her, and in japan TT&Friends took the honor, so the problem in the end is herself

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>>36906897
As much as I love Mumei this is a hard skip for me. Fuck Kronii.

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>>36906897
She said it will be 2 POV this time because she mistakenly thought people could follow both POV last time and it turned out she was wrong.

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>>36907035
no one asked

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>>36907059
PREDICTIONS FOR 2 POV?

Will ANY beat 5k?

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>>36907059
Fair enough, doubt either gonna make it on the cripple tally then.

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>>36907094
so Bae is the queen of the cripples once again?

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>>36897610
list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **
>Sayu Okami https://twitter.com/SayuOkami
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>LexParteVT https://twitter.com/LexParteVT
>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Juliet Winters https://twitter.com/juiietwinters
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeari


places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri

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>>36907022
When you do all that to gain the respect of others instead of respecting yourself, that's how it goes. If she had self respect she'd know she never would have gotten where she is without hard work and would be able to see the people trying to drag her down for what they are. Instead she got on her knees hoping they'd let her be one of the cool kids. By saying she just got lucky she's also indirectly saying that no holo deserves their fame, it's not hard work it's just luck and getting the right opportunity.

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>>36901966
Is he wrong, holonigger?

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>>36907116
Happy for her honestly considering she's always been streaming as much as she is with school and normie activities.

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>>36907135
Speaking of Rye, did anyone hear the short the ghost girl put out today? Is that what she sounds like? I don't really watch her so I don't know.

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>>36907225
>By saying she just got lucky she's also indirectly saying that no holo deserves their fame, it's not hard work it's just luck and getting the right opportunity.
and saying that on TT part2 is just giving credit to the infamous connur speech and his audience of closeted weebs. That's the unforgivable part.

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>>36907294
this one
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vH5JqVTPxlU

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>>36902861
I still remember Mori said something like "yeah, vtubing is a bit dying" at the start, imagine saying this when Hololive itself (or Niji when comes to tourist pull in events) are getting even bigger.

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>>36907090
I asked.

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>>36907380
>Saying that on TT part2 is just giving credit to the infamous connur speech and his audience of closeted weebs
Nigga of course, she also had a drama herself with connor so it's probably just another way for her to own da haterz by agreeing with connor

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>>36907225
And this is why I don't like that statement of hers, it labels the other girls undeserving as they were only able to get in because of their luck, imagine saying that to the faces of her senpais who struggled to get Holo where it is right now

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>>36907094
Kronii 4,3k
Mumei 4k

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>>36907440
then as he said,
>no one asked.

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>>36907429
You of course have a source and didn’t make this up on the spot?

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>>36907468
The only times that the chicken was based were when she refuted Mori's statements

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>>36907429
I know we're shitting on Mori but you don't have to make shit up

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>>36907475
Hell imagine saying that to Suisei. Being in hololive is just luck and a free ticket to fame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36907429
Nigga there's literally lot of things you can use to shit on mori, you don't even need to make stuff up like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>36907509
>>36907572
I'm rewatching that podcast simply want to look for that moment because it sticks to my memory the most. Comeback to you guys when I find it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36907035
Which is a shame because that initial collab they had where they went mad at the end was great. RIP Kromei

[Anonymous No.]

I think Gura said she's playing that Katamari game so I'll just wait for her to play it and check out Mumei POV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36907713
She said Friday

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>>36907713
It's for tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/scRX96wDNQQ
Nene Mel. I guess RE6 is the new Collab game, thanks Pekora.

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>>36907581
Though Suisei herself has said multiple times that she has been lucky as hell and that the Hololive brand is the reason she is anything. Sure she knows she has worked hard, but I wouldn't be surprised if she hid some bitterness about hard work hardly working within her.

[Anonymous No.]

How can Regis incline... he always begins as a 3 view and edges around the 999-1k line...

Vesper's peak waiting room for his morning zatsu today was 2k...

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>>36907776
>>36907747
Yea but I like watching stuff for the first time with Gura, I'd rather not know what's going to happen before she does it. This is only if I know she's doing it soon though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36907847
stop threatening to fight his chat. Do more yume bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>36907884
Talking about fighting the chat, I wonder if anyone notice that Magni went on a subdued "rentfree" rant on his sonic frontier stream yesterday, before Vesper joined kek