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36887850 No.36887850 [Reply] [Original]

What's up with Mori recently? This isn't a fluke anymore.

>> No.36888079

>numberfagging a stars watch-a-long

>> No.36888087

>>36887850
Pick up one, she do them all :
> no stream
> homo for the rare few stream
> anoucement to drain you money with a new thing every week
> shitty song
> frequent disapearance
> Work on RM
If you can keep up with one of those you already are cuck enought but with them all? she really want to make the cuckbeat the best cuck of hololive and after what happened to the cuckclocks she is doubling effort in getting back the tittle.

>> No.36888157

>>36887850
>Stars watchalong
Please, at least numberfag something worth numberfagging, this is like the fruit that's already on the ground rotting.

>> No.36888180

>>36887850
She keeps streaming in Jap prime for EN speakers.
That's only actual reason.

>> No.36888418
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>>36888180
Doesn't affect Bae at all when she does it.

>> No.36888747
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jesas

>> No.36889212

>>36888087
Based ESLtard

>> No.36889240

>>36888747
GO KIARA GO

>> No.36889316

>>36888087
I hate Mori for this and I hate the deadbeats even more for tolerating this kind of behavior.

>> No.36889336

>>36889212
NTA, but is he wrong, though? Leaving asides the quality of the songs, Mori ticked a lot of his listed reasons, and it's not like those reasons were anything outrageous either.
I'm not totally sure if it was related to the Connor drama either, but Mori's numbers experienced a clear drop after July (her median dropped from 8k to 6.7k), and have been dropping ever since. There likely must be a reason seeing some other girls are still relatively more stable (dropping or gaining within 1k range every month). When did the Connor drama happen, anyway (serious question, I already forgot)?

>> No.36889351

Even if it is a watchalong, she shouldnt lose to fucking yopi

>> No.36889375

Her music career is going down the shitter in Holo.

>> No.36889595

>>36889375
Her rm numbers (at least the visible ones) seem to be going down, too. Is this a case of trying to chase after two hares and ended up catching neither?

>> No.36889675

No one gives a single fuck about Mori besides the fans of her roommate

>> No.36889842

>>36889336
Connor happened way further back than that but the tempus garbage is definitely making even more people drop her

>> No.36889925

That UMG deal, although it may appear as a good thing in the surface, didn't work well in the way holo music "community box" works. If you were a Holo member, even if you liked Mori and her music, you would be willing to deal with the extra layers of permissions needed to make a cover of her music, or even, sing it on an archived Karaoke?

The same can be said to one fan that would like to make an "jazz remix" of one of her recent music, just to discover that his small channel was striked by umg in the next day.

The only thing that Mori can do (and has been doing) ever since the umg deal is doing music and covers alongside with other members, and when she does, it performs well, but her own music performance has been declining ever since.

>> No.36890171

>>36889925
>The same can be said to one fan that would like to make an "jazz remix" of one of her recent music, just to discover that his small channel was striked by umg in the next day.

That actually is a problem, damn. Double-edged sword for sure. It also sounds like Mori is kind of stressed working for a label because they a.) actually expect consistent output and b.) are prone to try to nanny and nitpick your music to make it more marketable, which Mori doubtlessly would get annoyed by real fast. I don't know where in her output pre/post UMG officially is but if I'm Greedy is a track UMG looked over carefully and it's not performing as they had hoped, she's probably hearing about it.

>> No.36890215

>>36887850
>2.6k Holostars paid content watchalong
Holy incline

>> No.36890414

>>36887850
It's been happening for a long time. Her VODs still get reasonably high views though, at least, way above what her CCV would imply.

>> No.36890488

Regarding her music. Mori hopelessly goes for quantity over quality. I'm not sure why she can't see it, but she seems to sing absolutely any trash UMG give her and it's showing with each subsequent song she releases. Apparently she doesn't even write the lyrics anymore. My guess is now that she has the money from the contract and a constant supply of Hololive money, she has no reason to care.

>> No.36890817

>>36887850
Youre telling me there isnt a combined total of 3k Mori, Magni and Stars fans?

>> No.36890917

>>36889336
>Mori's numbers experienced a clear drop after July
Let me tell you the real reason for it. Her going AVOL during summer when she was on her con tour.

>> No.36890979

>>36888747
In fairness 4blood is a pretty hype song

>> No.36891031

>>36890488
The increase in quantity looks like a UMG demand, resulting in the decline in quality. She's probably regretting taking the contract.

>> No.36891127

>>36890817
You're working under the assumption that
>there's no Mori fans who hate Stars
>no Mori fans who hate Magni
>no stars fans who hate Mori
>no Magni fans who hate Mori
t. magmite who can't tolerate watching Mori for more than a minute

>> No.36891178

>>36891127
But I thought all cuckbeats were anti unicorn and that all starsfags were pro unity?!
The ones posting on social media and this shithole seem to repeat that ad nauseum.

>> No.36891261

>>36891178
I'm pro unity minus Mori.
She is literally the only talent in this entire company that I can't stand watching.

>> No.36891410 [DELETED] 

>>36891178
>But I thought all cuckbeats were anti unicorn
I doubt any deadbeat is unircorn but I have seen some of her members discuss their opinion on the frequency of these homo collabs.

>> No.36892969 [DELETED] 

>>36891410
>YAASSS QUEEN SLAY FUCK UP THOSE INCELS
>O-o-ok Mori, the Incels got defeated, you can stop now

>> No.36893068

>>36888418
Bae attracts WAY more SEAfans than Mori. The N.A. reddit crowd is asleep when Mori is streaming. But she streams when she does because her non-Holo stuff takes priority.

>> No.36893215

>>36890979
exactly, thus supporting >>36888087
>shitty song

Mori did some good music in the early days, but it has been months or maybe already a year she did something that you would want to listen on repeat

>> No.36893478

>>36893068
I seriously can't tell cuckbeat cope and bait apart anymore.

>> No.36893541
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>>36888747
She's catching up on Fauna desu

>> No.36893611

>>36893541
GO KIARA GO

>> No.36893633

>>36893541
"Catching up" to the girl who literally admits herself she can't sing for shit isn't the win you think it is.

>> No.36893757

>>36893633
Let's be frank, most of the views aren't there because people appreciated the song quality or the chuuba's singing skills (or lack thereof).

>> No.36893774

>>36893541
> artist with record deal finally catching up to ASMRtist cover song who cant sing(although her cover was good imo)
Big win

>> No.36893775

>>36893633
She mentioned J-chad told her it was doing amazingly well on JP music streaming and J-chad is numberfagprime. Looks like it appealed alot more to the normalfag non-vtuber crowd vs the ones in the vtuber bubble, which I think was the point.

>> No.36893798

>>36893541
>can't catch up to Kiara
Imagine being mogged by the runt of your gen

>> No.36893847 [DELETED] 

>>36891031
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-music/
>Universal Music Group:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Music_Group
>Doug Morris(Ashkenazi Jew) – Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
http://www.notablebiographies.com/newsmakers2/2005-La-Pr/Morris-Doug.html
>Lucian Grainge(Ashkenazi Jew) – Co-Chief Executive Officer(Current CEO)
http://www.vivendi.com/vivendi/Lucian-Grainge
>Zach Horowitz(Ashkenazi Jew) – President & Chief Operating Officer
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=1285684
>Owners: Tencent Holdings Ltd. (20%)
Zogged and Chang'd

>> No.36893923 [DELETED] 

>>36893847
How long till they make Mori spill out tranny and nigger propaganda?

>> No.36893958 [DELETED] 

>>36893847
>the jews are responsible for Mori's music failing
The absolute state of cuckbeats.

>> No.36894008

>>36893923
Well she is still in hololive so never.

>> No.36894301 [DELETED] 

>>36893923
They'll have the RM do it on her socials sooner or later. Mori can claim Hololive wants to keep her out of politics.

>> No.36894917

>>36894008
I can see a big company like universal try to buy hololive

>> No.36894935

>>36893541
Mogged by chicken voice and the noel of holoEN, does the heart good

>> No.36895170

>>36889336
It was my comment and i'll tone down the trolling a little bit to add to the conversation. Like you said none of those reason are outrageous, like almost all hololive member tick at least one or two of those. What start being anoying is when you start ticking most of those thing. It's like you can tolerate a good amount of various shit, but when you start cumulating then it become a problem and her view are tanking.

>> No.36895172

>>36893541
Wow, finally catching up to someone with 1/4 of subscribers. Really makes you think.

>> No.36895376

Every poster on this board is a Deadbeat since they can't stop discussing Mori and following everything she does.
>but I hate her
She's your oshi. You watch her streams, you listen to her music, you even buy her membership just to keep tabs on it all. Mori and her antis have a symbiotic relationship.

>> No.36895788

>>36895376
Nah, i just browse these threads and perpetuate the rrats that i see

>> No.36895886

>>36888079
>coping from cancer that is called tempiss

>> No.36895966

>>36887850
What's up with Mori? Not her numbers that's for sure.

>> No.36896166

>>36889925
Not to mention Mori might be earning less than she did thanks to the contract, assuming she signed the 360 deal, UMG now profits from every single thing Mori makes and that's yet another cut from her paycheck. But then again, we're talking about the same girl who paid 80% taxes.

>> No.36896295

>>36888747
WTF, those are some dedicated saplings

>> No.36896312

>>36889336
if you want a concrete answer, thats when all she played for was Live a Live and Valhalla, which barely get more than 3500 ccv, Elden Ring and collabs kept the average up but it didnt quite reach the earlier months and then for october and mid september she went for full breaks, streaming kusoges every 3 days, she needs to pick up a game series that doesnt suck number wise and be consistent

>> No.36896518

>>36896166
She actually didn't pay 80%, it's something she was told she would do butafter mentioning it on stream she talked to an accountant after that to clarify

>> No.36896623

Do people actually unironically listen to her music? For me the novelty of "anime girl rapping" wore off after Your Mori and I haven't really cared about it since

>> No.36896699

>>36896623
I don't listen to her music but singing Mori is really good, rapping Mori is ass.
though both songs she did with Suisei this year were decent.

>> No.36896730

>>36896518
why does she always talk so confidently about shit she has no clue about

>> No.36896737

>>36896623
UnAlive had some good stuff with her showing off vocal improvements. Shinigami Note had a few enjoyable songs but she admitted it was trying to be more mainstream and not everything was done how she would have liked. Sinderella sounds like it has a lot going for it, but the only release so far was one of her weakest songs because it someone else did the lyrics.

>> No.36896783

>>36896623
I like a few songs, tho mostly like her other music

>> No.36897552

>>36896699
This. I hate Mori for other reasons, but I'll admit that her singing is nice. Unfortunately, she prefers to rap instead, which is just garbage no matter how you look at it.

>> No.36897645

>>36896730
She's a white woman

>> No.36897658

>>36897552
Austin Jones was talented but he was a disgusting pedo, horrible people can be talented

>> No.36898091

>>36888087
RM work is particularly shitty, it's practically taken over her life now and Mori is second fiddle.
>But muh recordings, she works so hard as Mori
It comes off more like she can only tolerates it and her audience because she enjoys making music. Rather than using good chunk of spare time to arrange events, be a good entertainer and give back to people that care about her as a Hololive entity she's pursuing a coattail career. All of her work lately has been one-sided and selfish, completely disconnected from that sense of growth and development with a community, she's fundamentally missing the whole magic behind this style of music production. Fans are beginning to clock onto that, even if subconsciously, and lose motivation to watch knowing she's just filling the hours until she can get back on her tour of empty self-expression.
>"Real" fans support all her work
"Real" fans in the face of rapidly reclining numbers is just a measure of pity.

>> No.36898202

>>36893215
>A year since End of a Life
That's harrowing to realize, and EoaL is generous, I'd say Red was the last actually loopable song she released.

>> No.36898438

>>36896699
Some of her better songs are ruined by some rap segments. When she's spitting lyrics to a fast beat it's alright, it's when she has the obnoxious deep talking rap that completely kills a song, like that one segment in end of a life where you're taken out of a nice somber song to be reminded oh yeah this is scene kid Eminem.
I wish people made rapless edits of her songs like the Kanon ending theme.

>> No.36898755

Q was the last song that people actually cared for her. She does do well in collab songs still but most of them are off her channel. Even if technically she still gets a huge number of total views even from a terrible song that do better than her normal streams, the subtext is she has definitely killed interest in her music career, even with having 60+ songs and covers to her name on her channel. The trade off wasn't worth it.

>> No.36899020 [SPOILER] 

>>36887850
>Watchalong
>Of a paid concert
>By the least popular group under cover by a mile
Most watchalongs of movies, even popular ones are doing well if they’re above 3k. You must be deliberately being retarded.

>> No.36899029

There is no mori, just #morgni

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>>36899020
Anon, watchalong of paid concert are the most watched watchalong in holos. In fact, they barely beat the Ollie solo watchalong of the previous star paid concert.

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>>36887850
actually doing better numbers than watchalongs on that day.
An I don't know why are you using an unboxing from 3 months ago to compare. was it so hard to find one with good numbers?

>> No.36901134

So, since we're talking Mori decline here, how low do the haters think her Katamari stream will be? 4k? 5k? Give me some numbers so I can laugh when she beats them because it's not a fucking watchalong of a paid concert for the least popular branch of Hololive Productions.

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>>36887850
too busy signing gameboys

>> No.36901363

>>36901134
Nobody cares that you're about to buy a shitload of bots for one stream to "prove us wrong" retard.
Let's see if she can keep high numbers for more than a week.

>> No.36902135

>>36901363
Aww, what's the matter, anon? No balls for a prediction?

>> No.36902438 [DELETED] 

>>36901228
Didn't she go to some con as both Mori and her rm? At that point why even bother with having 2 personal?

>> No.36902492

>>36887850
>Mori
Literally who?

>> No.36903217

>>36902135
3k if anyone else is streaming in the same timeslot.

>> No.36903291

>>36903217
Well bae is streaming the same time.

>> No.36903351

>>36903291
3k it is then.
How many tabs will you have open for her?

>> No.36903612

>>36901134
Below 6k for sure. Might go below 5k as well, but that depends on how strong game itself is.

>> No.36903676

>>36899369
>>36900993
Based retard

>> No.36904011

>>36901134
Typically her streams are lucky to go above 6k, usually fluttering around 5 on average. 3k would be a fucking hilariously bad day for her, usually only happening when there's someone streaming she has actual fan overlap with since pretty few people choose to watch her over anyone else. I'd wager her usual 4-5k since it's not the usual fotm shit. Regardless I am obligated to make sure you know you're pathetic since someone with over 2 million subs only able to pull 5k is hilariously bad and worse than even some twitch vtubers, and trying to act like she's anything short of a debasing failure is nothing but outright delusion at this point, but I don't actually expect a deadbeat to listen to that.

>> No.36904116

>>36903217
>>36904011
Don't reply to this retard. Certain Mori streams have had the "Z" botting pattern in the viewership graph ever since people have started pointing out how she's bleeding viewers and this guy is probably the guy botting her views since he's ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN she'll have amazing numbers today.

>> No.36904216

>>36904011
>she's anything short of a debasing failure
I don't think she cares though. She got her core fanbase and is fine with that. Only one who seems to care is J-chad.

>> No.36905471

>>36889336
It's not any one standout problem. It's an aggregate of problems. Not only does she do male collabs (by itself not necessarily bad), but she's crass about it to her fans (by itself not necessarily bad), and she frequently disappears (by itself not necessarily bad), breaks promises and goes back on her word (by itself not necessarily bad), treats her peers like garbage until she has a use for them (by itself not necessarily bad), sold out (by itself not necessarily bad), got lazy on her own productions (by itself not necessarily bad), procrastinates super hard (by itself not necessarily bad)...

Well, you kind of get the point. If she cleaned up half her problems her stream would stabilize. She won't though.

>> No.36905523

>>36889925
>The same can be said to one fan that would like to make an "jazz remix" of one of her recent music, just to discover that his small channel was striked by umg in the next day.
UMG is filled with fucking morons. Like, they don't even get their attacking customers with this.

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>>36893541
lmao

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>>36906179
holoen is dead

>> No.36907869

>>36889925
>>The only thing that Mori can do (and has been doing) ever since the umg deal is doing music and covers alongside with other members, and when she does, it performs well, but her own music performance has been declining ever since.
this is literally just because her music with UMG is worse. the other stuff hurts but it is literally just worse music specifically designed to appeal to a normie jp audience (which if I'm greedy is anything to go by, is working based on the apple music stats)

but its not anything her core fans give a shit about, and she's very clearly aware of this and not happy about it

>> No.36907943

>>36891031
she talked constantly about how exhausted recording so much made her and then there was that tweet about figuring out how to love her work (which was specifically about her music, not being a vtuber)

anyway, unsurprisingly everything she's released that has nothing to do with universal is doing just fine and up to her old quality. reaper vs sheep is excellent as is all her rm music and its all doing up to her standards number wise.

>> No.36911273

>>36887850
>Having your homo collab mogged by the biggest Stars fangirl

>> No.36911337

>>36891178
>all starsfags were pro unity?!
starfags fucking hate Mori lmao

>> No.36911833

>>36906179
>>36906179
>>36906179
>>36906179
>>36906179
>>36906179

>> No.36914432

She's being beaten by fucking Baelz of all people right now btw

>> No.36915099

>>36895376
You see, i get more of her attention by talking shit instead of being a supportive deadbeat since she made a lot more songs for her 'haters'

>> No.36916314

>>36907943
>reaper vs sheep is excellent as is all her rm music and its all doing up to her standards number wise.
Watame buff.
Also another collab.

>> No.36918824

>>36914432
RUMAO

>> No.36919975

>>36887850
Very few people in EN care about a paid JP Holostars concert. Those that did probably enjoyed the earlier watchalongs ft. actual stars fans and have no reason to watch 2 clueless people's commentary.

>> No.36920016

>>36907869
>on the apple music stats
where are those stats ?

>> No.36921058

>>36887850
She just hates women in general. Then they ghost her. She turned to the men to cope. The end

>> No.36921154
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>>36916314
>Watame buff

>> No.36923001

>>36889675
Her roommate fans hate Mori

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