/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Is GFE a good or a bad thing?

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if used maliciously to gain internet points and money: bad
if used cutely as a treat for fans: good

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>>36693019
Its bad and you should avoid it and find a real girlfriend

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It’s fine, just don’t be a creep about it to the chuuba. If the chuuba is an actual menhera, don’t bother with her.

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GFE is why I'm still alive. So it's good to me. It's bad for the people that would rather I be dead. But I'm better than all those people put together. And I can believe that when I say it because of GFE.

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a good thing to gatekeep whores and normalfags, vtubing is a hobby made for outcasts

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>>36693177
>If the chuuba is an actual menhera, don’t bother with her.
Menhera GFE is the best GFE

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It's both. All things in moderation. As the Buddha has said.

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>>36693019
>wonton girl

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>>36693019
it's self destructive in the long run.

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>>36693019
Shondo isn't a GFE

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>>36693019
GFE makes me feel good so it has to be a good thing

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>>36693234
I agree when it’s role-playing.

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>>36693052
So it's bad, got it

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>>36693300
yeah, she's my actual wife

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>>36693358
Hard disagree, the less role-play it is, the better

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>>36693019
I would say good but thanks to true schizo retards i will say it's bad, even hearing a girl breathing on stream they think it's GFE

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>>36693783
After Rushia, I have to disagree.

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>>36693863
Rushia was also a retard though

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>>36693863
Based Mike bro

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>>36693180
based, keep going anon, find happiness in whatever the fuck you want to

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>>36693019
someone post the wonton chuuba clip, I need a good laugh

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>>36694224
Jannies don’t like it

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>>36693019
It's like many things, it depends on the person consuming it. For some people it genuinely helps them keep going and fills a gap in their lives they can't/don't want to fill the traditional way but for others they throw endless money at it chasing the good feelings it gives them that distracts them from their sad lives like an addiction.

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>>36694614
ah nevermind then :(

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>>36693019
It can be good or bad depending on if the extra dopamine causes someone to get out of a slump and do their reps. It can be bad if someone becomes an obsessed paypig.

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>>36693052
All GFE are bad then.

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>>36693019
i just want no males onstream.

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>>36693019
it`s a boring crutch to scam lonely desperate nerds. find an actual entertainer.
i.e. >>36695165

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>>36693501
>>36695165
No, example of good GFE is Lamy. She's already rich and doesn't need the money.

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>>36693019
If you want an example just look at Gura.
She does gfe and it goes extremely well.

It's a form of entertainment that works if the woman does it well. If she doesn't it ruins her.

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>>36693019
It's good. Keeps incels from going out and shooting up schools.

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>>36693300
Shondo's GFE is Gay Faggot Experience.

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>>36700260
Lamy is barely GFE, also
>alcoholic
>doesn't need the money
lmao

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>>36700260
>She's already rich and doesn't need the money
When has that stopped anyone from making more money?

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>>36693019
>good or a bad
I'm not a 5yo so I'll limit myself to say it is something that I enjoy very much when done correctly

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>>36701061
>barely GFE
okay EOP

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makes normalfags seethe so its good

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>>36693130
How about the age old saying "people can enjoy whatever they want, stop gatekeep"

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After Rushia I can't help but feel like most GFE streamers are twisted people who prey on the most pathetic, loneliest, and based on how psycho their fans can be, mentally ill people

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It's a nice idea in theory, but in practise it's cynically used as a way to drain money from loners, who in turn take it too far by going beyond roleplay into possessive schizo territory.

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>>36693019
It's retarded and a grift but people can do what they want with their money, similar to anyone that watches any other friend simulator streamer.

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>>36693019
Things are not intrinsically good or bad, brother anon. Only how things act on your spirit are good or bad. Namaste.

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>>36701987
we got a utilitarian over here huh

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>>36693019
it's bad in that it gives me hope

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has it been posted yet?

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>>36693019
GFE saves men from seeking relationships with real women so it's basically an act of philanthropy.

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>>36693019
When done by a honest girl, yes.
When its a liar doing it its bad.

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>>36693130
The average America women is 20 pounds overweight. Around 40% of women who are overweight also fall under the obese category.

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>>36702418
wonton?

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>>36694224
https://streamable.com/gf9iot

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>>36702772
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>36693019
Not exactly. Is a good thing that there is variety of vtubers so is fine for me.
The real problem is when is done by not-so-sane individuals(See Rushia for example).
The main thing is that if is done with genuine feelings from the vtuber, I guess is not a bad thing as long is self contained, but that puts you in a box of limitations of stuff you can do and how you are seen.
For the other hand, if you offer it as part of your content and is not a fundamental part of your identity as a chubba, well that is something more manageable. You offer the Experience as part of the content and not as something you do as part of your own identity.
Just for the record, I believe most GFE chubbas are either people with some serious issues of self-esteem or just very lonely and in search of some validation, or they are professionals who know damn well the game of love and affection, and might and might not have bf or male friends.
Either way, is all part of the ilussion that needs to be treated carefully, as it brings the most lonely, and sometimes, deranged people. But overall is very profitable!.

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>>36702772
editing is cancer, but this is a classic nonetheless

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>>36693019
Not gonna, for some reason I simp more for chubbas that are just good in personality and model. Someone who panders to be my GF usually turns on a mental alarm of caution in my brain, for some reason

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>find GFE vtuber
>fall for GFE vtuber
>start to think about giving her my money
>find out she is used good
Literally happens everytime.

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>>36693019
It’s a tool in the entertainment/audience interaction kit.

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>>36703405
Who?

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>>36704010
OP pic

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>>36702267
that's more of a stoic idea.

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I think it's pretty bad for the consumers of GFE.

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it's a service and exists because there is a market for it. people who say it's manipulative miss that people actively seek the GFE experience out.
it's a willful delusion that is worth money to people, and while morally grey i believe it has its place and should exist.

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>>36693019
Is good if both parts know how to play their role

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someone gonna post the screencap of shondo tweeting about her 6'6 boyfriend or what?

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Japanese vtuber GFE very good
EN vtuber bad

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Terumi

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>>36705136
this is why i laugh when retards say shondo is "based" shes the fucking same as the rest of them, retards will never learn, or they are just that big of faggots and don't care

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>>36705136
I feel like every thread with Shondo in the OP is just baiting for this pic

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>>36706666
>I don't even know who shondo is

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>>36704785
>>36705136
She’s pretty tall for a woman so she needs a fucking giant man to feel like a loli

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it's essentially selling snake oil, so I'd say bad

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>>36693019
I think it's probably bad. If it's just kayfabe it's less harmful probably but feels fake/shallow. If it's like full on GFE no kayfabe then that's essentially a polyamorous relationship where 1 woman is dating hundreds and maybe even thousands of men.

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>>36708686
except nobody is actually dating her, I know what you mean though

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>screenshot almost 3 years old

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>>36693019
Good, It helps us escape this cruel reality for the meantime. We already know that we can't get bitches in the streets because we're ugly asf so vtubers doing GFE is our only hope and motivation to live in this world until the end of our life.

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>>36693019
It's good in moderation. Every one in a while, it's nice to relax in a fantasy date with your ideal GFE. But dont do it too often or you'll go insane and start to think it's real.

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>>36693019
It's good, it's providing an essential service for very lonely men who just want an smidgen love and affection. This sort of thing isn't so uncommon in Japan. Most men know exactly what they're getting into, and both the streamer and the audience are concenting individuals. But normalfags will stand on their high-horses and preach and preach about how 'unhealthy' it is, usually Twitter trannies, for whatever reason they have a real disdain for GFE. Roasties too, they fear the GFE chuuba.

Even better if there is AUTHENTIC gfe (not the pandering one). Something that evolves naturally between the streamer and their audience. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen no matter how much people want to pretend like it's a lie. True GFE is a respectable and something we absolutely need in this society where 3DPD whores are chasing every chad dick available to them while shaming men for being incels or rapists.

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>>36710933
who does "authentic" gfe?

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>>36711037
Basically discount anybody that resides outside of Japan for starters. That is a filter for whether or not it is authentic. There is just something about how people are raised in Wesetern societies that makes this kind of thing impossible for them. It's partly the EoP vtubing space as well, the western scene has a real stigma against anything that resembles GFE/parasocials and will unironically outcast you if you try to make it your stint, or try to change you. This is why there is no Western Rushia. A few have already suggested some JP girls in this thread if you want some form of authenticity.

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>>36702810
>The real problem is when is done by not-so-sane individuals(See Rushia for example).
That is unironically the best version of it though

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occasional subtle gfe is much better than full blown gfe

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>>36711037
>>36711199
There's at least one
https://youtu.be/2GRXNtBOgJg?t=15963
Other anons are right though, the mentally well don't do it for a reason

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>>36693019
Its easy money

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>>36693019
>Is GFE a good or a bad thing?
Are drugs a good or a bad thing?
In both cases resources are expended to create artificial pleasure.
In both cases society seems slanted towards considering it unhealthy for the whole.
IMHO one cannot oppose one and support the other.

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>>36715790
The same is technically true of entertainment too
Ultimately, GFE at the very least doesn't involve adverse physical changes to your body as an inherent trait. It is in the eye of the beholder. Drugs have context-independent physical ramifications

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>>36693019
Good thing in moderation.

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Drop your GFE chuuba, ai chatbots are the future

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>>36704442
People actively seek out illicit drugs and drug dealers are still manipulative.

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>>36693019
>Do GFE
>Get AIDS
RIP Shondo

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>>36693019
I've been enjoying it for a long time now with Rushia and still am with her right now. She had a stream scheduled today but was cancelled due to her medication did something to make her ill. As long as you know what you're getting into and don't turn into some anti mf or schizo nut case then all good. I don't like how some of you calling my wife Rushia not so pleasant words. Nobody helped her or sided with her but people like myself when that shit went down. She's still affected by it to this day so lay off.

Anyways, I have high doubts any girl polluted by the west will be any good at GFE. I really believed Finana of Nijisanji was a good potential as her color scheme and all reminded me of Rushia but then nope it was too good to be true. I'm not really sure about Nene Amano of kawaii and her whole history but she seemed one. Remillia of phase connect is interesting to watch too on occasion.

I also wanna point out there are some vtubers that play around with GFE in a teasing way like Reimu of Nijisanji. I don't know anybody else.

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>>36693019
There's nothing inherently bad about it. People turn to streamers (and streaming, really) because their basic social needs aren't being met. For a lot of people romance is part of that.

I think it's wholesome when it's people with the same circumstances coming together to support each other, and if there's actual empathy.

I think it's sinister when it's just opportunistic haves targeting have-nots.

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>>36716714
>I really believed Finana of Nijisanji was a good potential as her color scheme and all reminded me of Rushia but then nope it was too good to be true
Lol, your criteria for being potentially good at GFE was a color scheme? Bless your heart fandead, I do support you guys and your chuuba though, I hope you find a lot of love and hapiness with her in the future, you guys deserve it for all that you've been through.

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>>36716857
I really like this post and I agree with it wholeheartedly.

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>>36717302
Sure if that's what you think I meant. Whatever suits you.

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I don't really care for it and it's a bit annoying but I'd sooner side with GFEfags than the opposing side who just want to tear existing things down

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>>36716392
Its not worth to change a drug to another more powerfull

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>>36711199
The west is still too obsessed with irony. Any GFE on stream will always be passed off as "ironic".

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>>36711199
>>36719049
Wrong

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>>36718161
I think there's truth in the femanon meme. I expect a lot of anti's are actually seething femanons and competing vtubers trying to damage their opponents.

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>>36719806
Femanons competing for my affection...

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>>36720073
I mean lets not delude ourselves, anon. Not any more than we already are anyway. They don't receive or want your affection. They want your money. While to you, they are an intimate girlfriend that fills your every waking thought, to them you are not even a human being. You're not even a pet. You are cattle, livestock in the fields, to be fattened and slaughtered for profit.

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>>36693019
good if you know what youre doing

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>>36702810
Is for this reason that any male association is poison for female vtubers who have GFE as part of their core identity. Because it attracts a public with a lot of lonely men, seeing a male presence can enrage them make them feel as third wheel.
Another thing to point out is that we don't have a defined rule set that makes a chubba GFE. People rather "Perceive" if a Chubba is GFE in certain degrees.

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>>36721283
the vtuber or the viewer?

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>>36721790
Yes

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only menheras can do proper GFE because they're unironically in love with a bunch of strangers on the internet

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>>36693019
depends on the chuuba and on the watcher
some biyches shouldnt be doing gfe and some niggas shouldnt be watching it

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>>36725029
>they're unironically in love with a bunch of strangers on the internet
Except they're not.

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>>36720283
it's not fair...

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>>36725029
Until you realize that BPD bitches are extremely promiscuous, and pathological liars that are pretty much garunteed to cheat on you the second they don't feel they are getting enough validation from your attention

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>>36693180
Seek mental help, being this delusional isn't good.

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>>36693019
It's good. Doesn't hurt others and makes people happy.

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>>36725029
>they're unironically in love with a bunch of strangers on the internet
lol
lmao
no

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>>36693019
In a very short term it can be good, but in the long term it's cancer and as a viewer you shouldn't rely on it.

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>>36702582
So they're the same as you fatso

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>>36727001
No, it's not. Unfortunately I had a religious realization of the same kind about Christian God. Everything is termed in allegories of wheat and chaff and fields and harvests and reaping and it hit me: God doesn't love you either. God just wants to harvest you and eat you, and if you're unfit for eating you get tossed into the furnace for fuel. And religion is the exact same parasocial relationship, real or not you're in a completely one-sided relationship where your every waking thought it filled with the deity and then the deity doesn't really know you exist in any form outside of an amorphous collective of "worshipers".

What's going in with vtubers is like religion. These girls are like deities and oracles that are worshiped, given offerings, and obsessed about by otherwise lonely and empty souls. You're not just getting the Girlfriend Experience. You're getting the Godfriend Experience.

Why does man need this? It's clearly a need, because look at where we are. We've re-invented religion to satisfy some urge within us. Why?

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>>36729242
>Christian God
No such thing exists in the bible. You have no idea what's going on with the book. You don't even know it never taught religion. Everything else you've written is nutty af too. It's amusing what foreign people who grabs hold of the book that has nothing to do with them has all these strange ideologies. Put the book down dude.

GFE has positive and negative connotations concerning male and female desire for connection. It could be beneficial for the streamer too who lacks self-confidence and such. They're not a deity do you even know what a oracle even means? They're not worshipped this shit is hilarious. Willingly giving money are not offerings lmao. I'd be so embarrassed to write such utter bullshit as you did.

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>>36693180
Remember to always seek your own happiness. If GFE makes you happy then good. These Reddit fags and twitter trannies would prefer that everyone be as miserable as them

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Is Shondo really that good?

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>>36731282
she's entertaining, calls her chat her husbands and can be very loving and sweet, stalks her gachis and seems flattered by them being obsessed with her, won't collab with men (both for the sake of her viewers and personally she hates watching coed collabs or male vtubers at all generally)
she doesn't like being labeled anything like GFE because I think above all she just wants to be a good streamer in the image of holo JP
for being an actual schizo she's really kept to her word all year long
I can understand people getting filtered by her voice though but I find it cute

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>>36731711
Has anyone ever questioned her if she hates men? The huge majority of her fans being males I doubt she does but she seems REALLY autistic about male collabs, which while I like, she’s still very autistic about it

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>>36731711
>call her chat husbands
cringe
>>36732189
I mean anyone with common sense can tell her stance on men is "men who give me money = good. men who don't give me money = bad" but people with common sense don't watch Shondo. She has a small company of mentally ill simps who don't challenge anything she says or does

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>>36729242
Funny thing that, I recently came to the realisation that I view certain GFE and similar Vtubers as a kind of extension of God or maybe more specifically God's love. I'm not talking about the classic father figure like God everyone seems to think of but some unexplainable, unknowable force that encompasses everything and is expressed in reality in abstract ways. I blame my love of excessive dosages of psychedelics

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>>36732189
she doesn't but I get how it looks when you have this strict policy and occasionally make a tongue in cheek rip at MALES on stream etc etc
recently some people on twitter got upset with her for her sperging about male collabs and calling her sexist, and she took issue both with that and with people taking her words to be sexist towards men, even told a fan not to call males icky
you're free not to buy it on grounds that she doesn't want to alienate her fans, in my experience she's tried not to generalize men even when talking about her childhood experiences or stuff like being catcalled

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>>36731711
>she doesn't like being labeled anything like GFE
That's silly, why half ass it just for clout, if she doesn't put her heart into it for fear of how others will perceive her then why should I?

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>>36731282
I didn't originally think much of her but my gf kept having me watch clips and she's genuinely entertaining

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>>36733002 (me)
caveat being she did kinda generalize male vtubers somewhere in that thread, something like "male vtubers haven't been the nicest people in my experience" which I kinda get people getting upset over
>>36733103
She doesn't care about her or her fans being called parasocial; she's well aware of how it looks and doesn't care. She doesn't want to be given a label that holes her into some expectation for a type of content. She just enjoys thinking of chat this way and does what comes naturally.

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Isn't Shondo literally dying right now? Something about coughing up and sneezing blood? I wonder what's happening to her

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>>36733399
moldy yogurt
https://twitter.com/shadowchama/status/1589671922148601856

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>>36733399
Her period

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>>36693019
Bad because all the girls have boyfriends, unless you're into cucking.