how do they do it?

[Anonymous No.]

what makes someone soldier on with low 2 views or less?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
Hope

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
It's a hobby thing, instead of "just doing" your hobby, they may as well try to get traction and see of they get their 15 minutes of fame.

[Anonymous No.]

Believe it or not vtubing is not a full-time job for 99.9999% of the community, it's a hobby - one that can be done while indulging in other hobbies, like gaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420348
>>36420382
This. Back in the day people used to talk in chatrooms of like 10 people. When forums were still a thing there were sometimes really small communities. To many, streaming as a 2view is just a hobby and a modern version of online interaction like that.

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>>36420288
you can survive on any views if its just your hobby and you actually have an actual job.
however you are fucked if you are a full time streamer with 3views unless you have paypigs and oilbarons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
If you can't do that, you don't have what it takes op.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
>Project Kavvaii
Who? Is this the wish version of Production Kawaii?

[Anonymous No.]

You gotta start somewhere.

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>>36420465
I know a few people who do that, but they’re just using the streaming features of Discord in a private server with friends.
If you join a company and do public stream I don’t think you’re doing it with the expectation of only doing it for your close friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420615
yeah backed by some airline

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420615
SEA rip-off that group. But kawaii is a Hololive 'virtual idol' clone in anyway so whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
>"soldiering on"
>live 66 seconds
how does she do it bros, how does she stream that long

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420810
its been that way for months

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
this is 99% of the streaming world

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
This is the reason why Hololive needs to fucking die.
It makes fucking vomit myself to see an ocean of vtubers struggling to not even break 100 viewers, yet any Holoshit can get 10-20k, Pekwhora can even get up to 50k daily.
Even if you don't watch Holoshit, it takes one fucking clip from a random unrelated vtuber to have an endless sewage of Holotrash streams to start spamming on your home page.
Then you have literal imbeciles throwing memberships and SCs, like WTF is wrong with these idiots... these people are fucking millionaires.
I fucking hate how Hololive made Youtube their personal multi-millionaire monopoly out of a shit inexpensive hobby anybody can do, where any 3view trash corpo can get better designs than Hololive and from their artists themselves, because of course Holoshit commission free lance artists who are desperate to make a buck, that's why there are so many Gura, Fubuki, Ame... 2view clones.
This is not even a "overrated" issue, Holotrash made their success purely by algorithm manipulation, the Uto drama with Hololive meta tags is proof of it.
Hololive killed vtubing for everyone else.

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>>36420288
as a genuine 2view here (male too) I do it because its fun and I like talking to myself and every now and then someone joins and talks, they could be anybody e.g. a groomable egirl or a person to make fun of in my discord server of friends. its like playing the lottery you need a ticket to get anything out of it. and its fun to see just what will come of it. you never know. and like myself I fantasize in my head I have a audience of 10k even when i had 0 views for the whole week. its fun

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>>36420288
at least the person has made it to 4,19k subs, that's not too shabby.
you won't get anywhere without persistence

[Anonymous No.]

>36421929
not even a (you) for that shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
Seething 2view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
vtubing isn't a hobby, streams are just live television, consuming a product makes you equal to every other consumer from the holo tribalist to the 2view groomer, you're no better than any of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420710
>If you join a company and do public stream
Let's make it easy for your 1 brain cell to understand:
>JP
They view it as a side hobby, they aren't focused on numbers. Hence why when their life situation changes (job/family/school etc) they READILY drop vtubing.
>EN
Treats its as a full time job, only focuses on numbers and uses your logic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
The possibility to one day blow up and be granted with the blessing of sitting on your ass playing videogames earning as much as a doctor and leave your 9 to 5 at mcdonalds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
This isn't a Hololive-exclusive thing, all industries are like that. The top Twitch streamers are the same. It's how the web became a handful of megacorporations owning everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36423194
Doing public streams with monetization on is not and will never be "just a hobby, I want to hang out with friends".
If you didn’t expect tourists and newcomers you would’t stream publicly.
If it was a hobby you wouldn’t accept donations.
JP are no exception. The alternative if you want to become anime is to just stream on discord or create an avatar on fucking VRChat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36423430
>Doing public streams with monetization on is not and will never be "just a hobby"
If you knew how it works, you'd know you can still get paid from your hobbies.
>If it was a hobby you wouldn’t accept donations.
Ah..you're American, explains your viewpoint now, I apologize.

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>>36421929
>IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME!!!!!!! I SHOULD BE THE ONE GETTING THE MONEY NOT THEM!!!!!
Nigga you couldn't even be more obvious lmao, if anything Hololive and Nijisanji made streaming easier for you fags, keep streaming, join a corpo and then get the fuck out when you think you had leech enough, you're a sad excuse of a man/woman if you don't see the oportunities ahead of you and just whine like a little entitled bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

With 4 viewers she's already in the top 10% who make it that high

[Anonymous No.]

>>36423603
>it's actually meritocratic, just work harder!!
rumao, sage goes in entry field

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>>36420288
A lot of the current JPs in Nijisanji or Hololive were forever 2views on NND live or whatever JP streaming site existed back in the day. If you've ever been on /b/ in... maybe 2006-2010 you may have come across a thread where they'll link to a random japanese girl livestreaming, maybe one of them was the 4-5view you now know as a vtuber in a major corpo. A lot of these girls have been streaming into pretty much empty rooms for a long time because they had their reasons to. It's different for everyone really. Maybe they just enjoy being a public figure, or they need constant validation from strangers on the internet, or they substitute it for social interaction, or some combination of a these things. It all depends on the individual predisposition and/or end goal they have in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
>t. hololive reject

[Anonymous No.]

>>36423948
Late nights watching mangakas on livestream.com...

[Anonymous No.]

>>36423948
>If you've ever been on /b/ in... maybe 2006-2010
half the posters here were probably born in 2010

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
2view is the best chat experience by far. It's like being a cast member of Cheers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420525
That honestly depends. Low 3views of 100s yes.
As soon as you break 300 or so you're able to live comfortably. (pay your bills, buy food, save a bit for future or spend for leisure)
Do note however that is a streamer statistic, not a vtuber only one.

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>>36421929
>if Hololive is gone I would get the money
>if niggersanji
>if vshitshow
>if kawaii
>if phaseconnect
>if wactor
>if filian
is this what real seethe looks like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36425331
why am i still here with all these children

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck are you supposed to pronounce kavvaii? Did they think people wouldn't notice it's not a W?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
well, vtubing for a corpo is looking more like a regular office job where you need to have years of experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
a 2view I watch has been doing streams to an audience of 7 people (peak hours) every single day for over two years. these girls don't do it for the money or fame, but for the fun of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>36422424
>0 views for the whole week
You are not a 2view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
>the Uto drama with Hololive meta tags
I'm only here to laugh at this statement since youtube confirmed that tags have affected nothing for like two years

[Anonymous No.]

>>36423603
Stupidest motherfucker I've seen today

[Anonymous No.]

>>36429418
Disingenous cunt

>Hololive
Multi-million dollar, 100k+ live viewers daily
>Nijersanji
Multi-million dollar, 100k live viewers daily
>Vshojo
million dollar, 50k live viewers daily (Mainly on Twitch)
(Oceanic power gap)
>if kawaii
Thousands of dollars, 10k live viewers daily
>if phaseconnect
Thousands of dollars, 10k live viewers daily
>if wactor
Pennies, 5k live viewers daily
>if filian
Pennies, YTshorts spammer

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929

[Anonymous No.]

>>36431632
I'll give you a view if you blow me

[Anonymous No.]

I'm only getting a few people watching my stuff as VODs. I'm just playing games in my backlog and giving commentary.
I was gonna play the games anyway so why not stream it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
Success truly does breed jealousy, huh? Seethe more 2view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
Pekora's audience is unique to her, if she suddenly disappeared it'd mostly be 11-13 year olds finding something else to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
I like how much you are seething 2view anon but its also fun how you would change your mindset like a cheap bitch for a place in hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>36423836
Yes it is, some orc dude who had like 10 regulars is now getting 3k because he got into Hololive.
Several indie groups following the Hololive BOX method but offering something unique are getting viewers (VSen for example).
Hell there's even a 3rd corpo (VSPO) who's edging in on Holo-tier views just from using their BOX on FPS related stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly, as a 1 view vtuber I have loads of fun. Sometimes it sucks streaming to nobody or just a dead chat, but when you somehow get to 20 viewers, or get a big raid from somebody it's a blast. I know for a fact I am having way more fun with a great (for me) stream of 20 viewers than some Holo is on a shit day with 1k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420465
>When forums were still a thing
I miss them.I actually liked some of the people that I talked to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36432239
How you know that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
not everyone does it for /numbers/

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
if you are gonna play a game anyway
why not stream it?
the only way to get something done is by doing it

friggin Tokino Sora started with 13 viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>36432239
As another 1view I needa ask.
Are you just naturally good at not having dead air or does it come with experience? I've been told by my viewers that I am entertaining when I talk but I'm quiet a bit too much or I take too long to respond to people (30 seconds?)

[Anonymous No.]

>>36435866
I think I am probably naturally better than most with filling dead air when I was just starting out. But I also got better at it over time. Responding to chat promptly is just something you have to practice and get better at. Experiment with your setup, you could even do an audio notification on chat settup if you need to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36432239
sounds like cope to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
Just treat it as a glorified lets play channel. If you got anyone to interact with good for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
>hololive dies
>you're still a seething 1view

LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420525
3views get paid well. Especially on Twitch where ads can't be blocked or skipped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
Hololive is just better than all your 2view nobodies. Sorry! Hololove IS vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36431632
You had no comeback at all lol
The reason you amd your vtweeter friends will always fail is because you just don’t have that Hololive charisma. You just aren’t good enough. You’re lesser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36423836
You just aren’t good enough. That’s why Vesper got in to begin with and you never could. The same reason I have a house and a vacation home and rental properties, but you’re paying me rent. I’m just better than you. Just like Vesper is just objectively above you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36431632
>10k live viewers
where? in your schizo head?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36432239
Your attitude is more likely to get you picked up by a corpo and lead to success some day than the faggy tryhard seethe attitude of vtweeters whining about their failure. You’ll notice that one of the things they try to select for is humility and appreciation and positivity. If you can learn and grow a bit while keeping a good outlook, you have a chance. Cringe, seething entitled babies are automatically sussed out and disqualified.

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>>36439109
Imagine somebody who has hustled like 10man for years, made it into a corpo and has support and merch, and still has to struggle to break into 4 viewdom. But you never hear her whining about how she’s entitled to more. She just keeps working.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
2 views all have a main job and vtubing is either a hobby or side job.

[Anonymous No.]

WAAAAH WHY DO HOLOLIVE AND THE OTHER CORPOS ONLY HIRE THE CREAM OF THE CROP WAAAAHHH
I COULD MAKE MICHAEL JORDAN MONEY TOO! HE ONLY MADE A BILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE HE WAS IN THE NBA!

[Anonymous No.]

>>36439353
Some are NEETs and are trying to do or die, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36439353
>he doesn't know that hololive is a sidejob for almost all of them
Lol how clueless are you tourists? First time watching a vtuber?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36432049
what is the Hololive BOX method, this is the first time I’m hearing of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36429418
>if hololive and nijisanji
yes.
they're not vtubers they're corps that pumped a fuck ton of money into making it popular.

vshojo at least started from the bottom and built their empire on their own talent and sweat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36439548
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>36439738
Laugh all you want, you can't deny facts.
There's a good reason jshojo is the most respected and admired vtubing group in the west. Only the Japanese branches are able to match their personability and creativity, and even then its only the top echelons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36439151
Honestly, I dont even want to join a corpo any more. Thinking of abandoning the people I have gotten to know and who have supported me through both fun and diffictime would just be too much for me. Worse would not being able to tell people where I am going, or lying and telling them I a quitting. That would suck way too much. I would rather stay as a nobody indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>4k subs
not even bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>36420288
why would anyone toil in hell if not for the hope that one day theyll be in holo?

[Anonymous No.]

If you're a neet or a wagie working part time or a student or a bored housewife you can just stream for "fun".

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
laughs in peko

[Anonymous No.]

>>36439831
>jshojo is the most respected and admired vtubing group in the west
They are everything that's wrong with vtubing in the west, anon, the fact 2views look up to them and try to become like them is the reason they'll only be 2views forever.

[Anonymous No.]

If something i learned during many years in the internet (Over 15 years already) is that if you really want to do something, you have to do it or you will live in regret and resent on others how they get what you couldn't. For v-tubers, many people do it as a hobby, something to have fun and disconnect themselves from the awfulness of the daily life and play some videogames. But sometimes people like to dream big and being a corpo tuba with connections and thing going on behind the scenes more than playing games.

But this is where expections and reality clash because every single fucking time i saw more people waiting to be a v-tuber or being fun instead of actually having fun. One of the things why this post >>36421929 is so tragic is because you can feel how he/she expected to be big but has to deal with his own limitations as a human, and he/she has to cope with the fact he's not good enough to be in a corpo.

Like, if you want to be a v-tuber, make a shitty model, start knowing how 2D Live or 3D Modeling works and be creative, make your own space and let people flow in with some pick you like, no what people want to see, because if you go for trend, the moment you don't do it, they will drop you. But i know you motherfuckers, i had the fortune to do classes to younger generations and i know how uncreative and worthless you're. People has to take your hands to actually something and even then you comply about everything.

tl;dr don't make your hobbies your job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36423194
This literally couldn't be more wrong

[Anonymous No.]

I'm literally watching a stream with 7 viewers right now
it's called doing this as a hobby, for fun. I don't think some of you people understand that concept.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36440391
>Modeling works and be creative, make your own space and let people flow in with some pick you like, no what people want to see, because if you go for trend, the moment you don't do it, they will drop you.
As someone who has seen the behind the scenes of 2-3 views chuubas over this last year, most turn to this for numbers once they stagnate/fail while trying to do the things they enjoy. I have seen girls who averaged 14 views turning to twitch meta in desperation the same as I've seen a girl averaging 111 telling others to "just do what's fun", without understanding she's carried hard by raw(mostly wasted) talent, and that everyone has tried that first.

The wall hits everyone, and the harsh truth is that 99.9% of people just aren't good enough. So they find solace in the usual copes, that there's a system, or big bad, holding them down, that the sucessful ones were just that lucky, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

passion

[Anonymous No.]

>>36440567
Have you ever heard the phrase about not doing anything for free if you're good at it?
Your 1view chuuba is clearly not good it, not talented nor cute enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36440649
Hey girl, i will pay you 1000 USD if you let me creampie you

[Anonymous No.]

>>36440649
I dunno I'm havin fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>36440773
>muh fun
explain yourself properly instead of falling back on meaningless buzzwords

[Anonymous No.]

>>36440845
>muh fun
Absolutely miserable, do you just do things to get money? Why do you post on this fucking board if you don't like fun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36440845
>explain yourself properly
I'm having fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
i'm not sure if this is bait or a seething 2views discordtranny after seeing people in his cord talks more about holos than his streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>36440611
The cope of not having success is big among v-tweeters, they twist words and concepts like fun because "how dare people having fun and actually having views while I TRIED TO HAVE FUN AND I COULDN'T GET A SINGLE VIEW", like what else did you expect? Some random oil baron start giving you tons of donations along side with friends and pretend to be the corpo v-tuber you never meant to be?

The fact they can't cope with failure, is the reason why they're not corpo and why people don't want to watch them, because no in a fucking way i will watch something reminding me i'm also a failure too lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>36440649
I mean, you would have a point if streaming was difficult or unpleasant or something. But it really isn't. Lots of people can stream for hours and hours no problem.

[Anonymous No.]

Some ppl are just fucking bored at home and have no friends. Not everyone streams for numbers. some ppl just want others to hang out with. Hard to believe right LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>36441777
>the fact they can't cope with failure, is the reason why they're not corpo
I don't think you quite got it anon. You can do everything right and just not be good enough, because while raw talent can be overcome with effort... the top tier stuff is filled with people who are both talented AND worked hard. At least until they got their cushy positions.

I kinda get why people can become incredibly bitter over this. Insisting on things that'll never work out, no matter what you do, tends to do that to people.

[Anonymous No.]

I used to stream a good bit, probably the most I ever got was 50 viewers. Never really bothered me, not everyone who streams is going to be a star. What I don't get is literal 0-1views, I don't know how you even get that low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
You are right that so much of Hololive is low effort. Nobody really deserves the views for most of the content they put out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36441368
I'd assume the latter because I see so many of these faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

I make enough money to pay my bills, buy ingredients to cook meals that are more than 10 dollars, spend at leisure for things like games or to go out, and save for future things.
I still do my 1/2view hobby as a vtuber in my free time getting anywhere from 5 to 25 viewers because I'm having fun and they're having fun watching.
If they aren't then idk why they're there because it certainly isn't to get with a male and I don't have a fujo/yume audience.
>But anon, why aren't you just a fleshtuber then?
I'm lazy as shit outside of work. When I'm relaxing at home I can just turn on my model without having to care about how my hair, face or eyes look. Plus all that just sounds extra for what's meant to be a fun hobby

[Anonymous No.]

>>36442141
It used to be easier to start off as a streamer. Nowadays there is a lot more competition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36440132
I like buying and fixing old cars, doesn't mean I want to be a mechanic or anything I just enjoy doing it. Seems like the same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36442869
Based boomer hobbyist

[Anonymous No.]

corpofags are so soulless they can't imagine someone enjoying streaming to a small audience as a hobby. sad!

[Anonymous No.]

>>36440391
>many years on the internet
>15 years
you're probably 15 years old

[Anonymous No.]

She's Malay lamo

[Anonymous No.]

>>36440845
>>36440649
What a pathetic response. I like playing hockey, but that doesn't mean I'm going to try to be a fucking professional hockey player.
Some people like doing things for personal enjoyment for literally no reason other than liking the activity. It's called being human.
Imagine thinking life revolves around monetary gain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36443946
spoken like a true poorfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>36432049
>10 regulars
You really are exaggerating and he had a model debuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>36422424
>groomable egirl
Moids

[Anonymous No.]

>>36443602
27 years old faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>36444707
this post was made by a 1view tuba

[Anonymous No.]

Normal people have hobbies and activities that they engage in, regardless if they're poor or rich.
You're the odd one out if you think that anything you do which doesn't result in income is useless.
Millions of people play video games every day. streaming those games isn't really a tough thing to do. People with double digit viewerships don't care about their numbers because the point was never to get numbers in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36445455
>People with double digit viewerships don't care about their numbers because the point was never to get numbers in the first place.
Nta but this reeks of cope revisionism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36445455
>People with double digit viewerships don't care about their numbers because the point was never to get numbers in the first place.
it literally is though.
the entire point of STREAMING is streaming to an audience, if there's no audience you're just playing by yourself and not streaming.

streamers want an audience otherwise they're failing at the 1 thing their hobby is about doing.
Its like playing hockey but not playing against another team. hitting pucks into a net might work for practice but anyone who plays hockey wants people to play against.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36445806
i stream for the voices in my head
they always watch and are very pleasing

[Anonymous No.]

>>36445806
youre retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>36446163
>>36446260
0 view cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36439502
The hololive box is a label for the (closed) ecosystem Hololive has set up for themselves and their viewers. The good vibes between hololive members is reflected in their viewers willingness to watch other hololive streams. So when one stream finishes, there's a good chance those viewers will go to another member still streaming. It's beneficial in many ways but that's the gist of it
You may find it unfair that it's closed but I am told it formed during the period where they were blacklisted from the Coco-Taiwan situation. No one else to collab with but each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36445502
>>36445806
I've never even streamed before or had a youtube channel. I'm not coping or damage controlling.

Imagine someone who likes to snowboard. Is a snowboarder a failure if they don't have an entire crowd watching them do tricks? No. Is he a failure if he only uses easy paths? No. it's all completely relative and subjective. The entire point is that it's literally for personal enjoyment and that is it.
Maybe streamers with low views just want to stream whatever it is that they're streaming for archival purposes. Maybe they just want to stream to a couple close friends.
Now if a snowboarder is whining because he doesn't have a crowd watching him do tricks, or if a streamer is whining because no one is watching him play some video game, the individual may consider himself a failure for not achieving some lofty goal he set for himself. But if he never had a goal in the first place and was just doing it for fun, then how is he a failure?
It would be like someone calling you a failure because the breakfast you prepared for yourself this morning wasn't on par with a 5-star Gordon Ramsay breakfast. Do you see how ridiculous that is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36446786
The analogy falls flat because you're describing things that don't require other people while talking about entertainers, who live and die by their audiences. Let's use singers as an example instead: you can sing to yourself as a hobby just fine. But if you're singing at bars and getting money out of it, it's going to be very hard for you to convince people you "never wanted to be famous/have a bigger audience anyway" without sounding like sour grapes. Because, in most cases, it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36446786
The difference is snowboarding is about snowboarding. The appeal is riding a snowboard.

The point of streaming is to interact with an audience, otherwise you'd be making lets plays or gameplay videos, and not streaming.
You're failing at streaming because you're failing at doing the activity of streaming to an audience.

Its more like snowboarding on a flat plain with no snow. You might be able to sort of half assed move around for a bit if things get muddy, but you're not going to be having fun "snowboarding"

[Anonymous No.]

>>36445455
>People with double digit viewerships don't care about their numbers
Either i happened to hang arround in wrong place or you are wrong, from what i seen so far they are also numberfags as if they are femanons from /#/
One of them even seethes at irys when she gets the vsinger spot because that girl thinks she has better potential (kek)

[Anonymous No.]

>>36446969
>>36447938
how miserable is your life to not be able to have fun while playing games? If you're not having fun with the game while streaming, then maybe is the reason why you're not corpo, you soulless whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
The girls built the brand name with their effort, what have you built in your life? keep seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>36449668
>how miserable is your life to not be able to have fun while playing games?
>>>/v/
I have no idea what this has to do with the comments you quoted though, since you didn't answer either

[Anonymous No.]

>>36449668
>but its playing games
then just play games on your own.
streaming just you sitting there playing games is why there's so many 0 views.

when actually streaming you have to fill the dead air and worry about reading chats and all that other bs. you're not just sitting there playing games, and it actively makes the game un-fun unless there's entertaining audience members.
and more importantly you're actively trying to stream to an audience which when you're failing that it makes everything else you're doing suck too.

yes I am a 2 view, and while I don't put that much investment into streaming I can tell you it fucking sucks when you have no viewers or just giant lapses of silence from them. when i'm playing games by myself i'm just sitting there relaxing, not constantly making noises or trying to be entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36449845
I will stream games and have fun with it only to make you seethe, people can do whatever it want with the streaming platforms, from sleeping, to play games, watch movies, talk, etc. It's up to the public if they want to come by or not. The fact you think so much about the content instead of what makes you relevant speak volumes of yourself you sad attempt of corpo tuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36450339
post your channel faggot.
$10 says you're a tranny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36450759
>self doxxing
what with this childish behavior on 4chan? What the fuck are you doing here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
Take your free (You) and get the fuck out of my face

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
>Pekwhora
I kek'd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36422424
>they could be anybody e.g. a groomable egirl
I swear to God it's like being pond scum is a requirement to be a male vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36442141
That's literally just how the internet is though. Most of the money and fame to be farmed from a popular trend go to the people with either the luck or foresight to hop on that trend early and with some degree of competence. Yeah sure, you can say that there's nothing really separating them from the people who try to get on the bandwagon later in terms of talent or entertainment value or whatever, but getting involved with something before it's popularity has completely exploded is a talent in and of itself these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36451799
>t. Groomed e-girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>36451910
they weren't even the first.
i have literally no idea why hololive got as big as it did other than random luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36432244
Forums were great, instead of all interests being balled up into a social media feed; you could pick and choose what you wanted to care about. I think 4chan may be the last bastion of this mentality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36453055
everything is great in retrospect.
forums were also shithole circlejerks filled with pointless shit and didn't lend well to casual discussion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36453452
This.
A chief reason I came to 4chinz was forums always degenerating into stupid cliques ruining it for faggots with less social skills like me, and often times for newfriends too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36439548
>>36439831
Why are Vshojoshills so retarded? LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>36449715
Fucking kill yourself.
Pekora herself was 2view trash before Hololive.

Nobody on Hololive build their success through honest means, Hololive made all it by algorithm manipulation. Even the biggest Holoshit vtuber will lose all their audience as soon the Holoshit brand is removed from their algorithm.

Call me when Kson gets a 100k 3D livestream or 20k karaoke... Kson is the biggest proof the same exact streamer can lose all their follow up without the Holoshit algorithm spam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36457427
Or maybe... juuuuuust maybe.... she shat on all of her fans way too much? well, it's her ''freedom'' after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>36438755
>Hololive is just better than all your 2view nobodies.
Retards like you are so sad.
Ayamina was a 2view shitter
Meccha-Babumi was a 2view with 8k subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>36421929
Damn anon look at that you got more (you)s than views again

[Anonymous No.]

>>36453055
Facebook works as a decent semi-normie forum if you delete most people you know irl and stick to specific hobby groups. That depends a lot on the mods of said groups though.
>>36457427
Kson is judas, she has far too many views for what she is and what she has done, not far too little. Same goes for Mikeneko, but squared.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does it have to be black and white opposite ends of the extreme to you faggots? Let's assume your goal is to move from being a 2view into a comfortable full-time 3 or 4view. Let's take out hobbyists from the equation. Yes, personality and hardwork is essential to success but it's also a matter of knowing how to market yourself or play the algorithm. If you want to be a full-time streamer you need to accept that you are making yourself a product, a commodity, and products do not sell themselves. You can be an amazing chef that makes the best food in the world but no one is gonna know about it if you don't move past your small hick town of Bumfucknowhere, Nebraska. You can do that by innovating your product e.g offering deliveries, moving into the bigger cities, getting a food truck etc. or maybe fucking Food Network decided to visit your small village one day and feature your little diner and now you've got niggers from across the country flying out just to eat at your place, it's also possible that all these things happen and still you're not gonna get anywhere. There are different avenues to success, especially with entertainment, doubly so in the internet. There's no secret sauce and there's no such thing as a guaranteed win formula even if you do everything right, that's fucking life, deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36439287
Yeah... keep working hard in the face of a corrupt rigged system and maybe, only maybe, you will reach 1000 viewers. Even though you do the same shit, which is booting a vtuber model and play a videogame!

Get the fuck out. Hololive needs to be overthrown, fucking trash shill corpo syphons all the viewership for themselves. That's the great thing about Hololive, Even you watch non-Hololive vtubers, Youtube will spam Hololive streams in your feed, but once you watch Hololive, Youtube will only recommend Hololive.
It's such a trash system... Hololive needs to be arson'd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36460106
Seething because you are a boring faggot with zero personality isn't gonna get you more views lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>entire thread filled with butthurt 1views
post your channel so that we can laugh at everything wrong that you are doing with vtubing
bonus points if your pinned tweet is a 3dpd image of yourself