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This is a thread for the discussion of Nijisanji's English branch and their upcoming vtuber unit, LazuLight!

Teaser trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkZPFOI7OkU

Niji EN
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-JSeFfovhNsEhftt1WHMvg
Twitter: https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World

Elira Pendora
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeSUTOTkF9Hs7q3SGcO-Ow
Twitter: https://twitter.com/EliraPendora

Pomu Rainpuff
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP4nMSTdwU1KqYWu3UH5DHQ
Twitter: https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff

Finana Ryugu
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu-J8uIXuLZh16gG-cT1naw
Twitter: https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu

Debut program ft. Hana Macchia & Bonnivier Pranaja from Niji ID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC6yl3CyePA
Debut song "Diamond City Lights": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnP0cKNPE04

Please keep it friendly and on-topic!

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>> No.3614769

I don't mind them but I think they're being way too interactive with their former indie friends by quote RT'ing and shit.

Give my feed a break.

>> No.3614774

The setting looks post apocalyptic. I like the dragons outfit.

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>> No.3614805

Don't forget the Twitch

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I searched up Nijisanji on Twitter and I saw a lot of people who aren't willing to give them a chance just because some of their Tweets are cringey. It makes me really sad. I wish people would wait until debut before judging the girls.

>> No.3614815

thoughts so far
elira is the cutest
pomu follows genzuki so she's based
i have no thoughts on the fish

>> No.3614819

>5 AM
Damn, I'm not going to make it.

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Do they even watch JP niji

>> No.3614845

I'm buying Dragoncoin and Fairycoin. They seem like safe bets, but I'm dumping my Mercoin before it goes down more.

>> No.3614859

I agree like damn, HoloEN also tweeted cringe on their debut

>> No.3614860

Maybe the girls should've thought twice before tweeting out retarded cringe memes prior to their debut.

>> No.3614874

>/jp/'s Nijisanji thread became /hlg/ 2.0 without even realizing it
My fucking sides.

>> No.3614890

All of the HoloENs did that, though.

>> No.3614891

Why does mermaid get art and a fancy title while the others have their default face and text?

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Elira. That's all.

>> No.3614903

I'm happy they get an original debut song with someone like mafumafu working on it. If they can do some good singing streams then I'll watch.

>> No.3614909

Pomu is a big nijifag, known fact both from her roommate and her Twitter follows

>> No.3614912

What the fuck is up with the Nijisanji hate on this board anyway? I'm a filthy EOP so I didn't really bother with them until, but some people on here seem to be really upset at them. Is this just trolls trying to fan the flames or is it some proper corporate tribalism that (mostly) Americans seem to love to engage in?

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>> No.3614935

I already hate these names.

Is the blue one Juniper?

>> No.3614962

hilarious isn't it

>> No.3614963

>Is this just trolls trying to fan the flames or is it some proper corporate tribalism that (mostly) Americans seem to love to engage in?

>> No.3614970

I want Elira to step on me!

>> No.3614984

Mint was an open Nijisanji fangirl. Nova was a nousagi but she used to follow some nijis as well
Don't know jack shit about Yui tbqhfamalam

>> No.3614989

Do they have a bong yet or is it all burgers? Big gap in the market there.

>> No.3614995

The /jp/ Niji thread already banned discussion of ID and KR and IN, this isn't some new thing. They've always discussed the Japanese chuubas only.

>> No.3614997

baiting is fun that is all, don't mind it

>> No.3615018

Dunno, I'm a Holofag but I'm excited for the NijiEN debuts. Probably just trolls/tribalism.

>> No.3615031

Do you know where can I find any nova content? I'm curious if she is based or not.

>> No.3615040

I hate those little wings on her head. No idea why Japs think they look good. Wings do not belong on heads.

>> No.3615056

>is it some proper corporate tribalism that (mostly) Americans seem to love to engage in?
you tell me >>3497570

>> No.3615070

it's just like apple vs android on /g/

>> No.3615080

Going off their tweets, NijiEN is shaping up to become everything that /jp/ was fearing HoloEN would become but didn't.

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>Do you know where can I find any nova content? I'm curious if she is based or not.

>> No.3615111

>no males
>no loli, all are generic late teen/early 20s bodies
>no big tits, all are small/medium
>no cleavage, nothing lewd about designs, feels perfectly sterilized so they can stream on bilibili
>pastel vomit colors that give the designs the feel of low rarity units in gacha games
I was hoping to get something unique that the other corporate EN vtuber groups couldn't offer but it feels like they went the safest possible route ever.

>> No.3615118

Serious question: why does the Niji logo look like a Pac-Man barfing out rainbows?

>> No.3615151

She is special

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it's a gay fish

>> No.3615160

where are the males? this sucks

>> No.3615162

Nova had all her clips up on her twitch channel until yesterday, but now they are gone, you can surely find them somewhere.

>> No.3615188

Based would love to see the seethe

>> No.3615210

>noooooo, they made lewd jokes!
Ichikara is much less restrictive than Cover, so it's not a surprise. They let their streamers do whatever they want for the most part. As long as they don't talk about their sex lives like the Vwhores it's fine.

>> No.3615214

I still gonna check them out, but honestly I agree. Not having at least one cunny or booba is massive disappointment.

>> No.3615218

Think having a stomach exposing cut out is somewhat lewd?

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>> No.3615258

Niji = 虹 = Rainbow
Sanji = 三時 = 3 o'clock
Nijisanji = にじさんじ = 2D3D = Rainbow 3 o'clock

>> No.3615267

>in 3 days

>> No.3615268

Everyone is over 5k now.

>> No.3615274

>No males

>> No.3615277

i need male with a soft voice

>> No.3615286

>only 3 members
>designs look like shit, incredibly generic and boring designs, all the roughly same body type too
>not even any coomer appeal that would at least make the boring designs ok
>especially center girl looks like shit due to wearing fucking dungarees and what appears to be an oversized glove or something
>green color scheme on EVERY character for some reason
>Kiara debut-tier mics
>ERPing, frogposting and dropping reddit memes left and right on twitter
>literally literally LITERALLY ripping off HoloMYTH with their fucking fairy tale character bullshit
>1 of them admitted to being a HoloEN reject (confirming nijisanji only gets sloppy seconds who weren't good enough to get into Hololive)
>low as shit views on their debut teaser (nobody cares)

Anything else?

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No it's not, the itoddler question is settled in /g/

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So what are the expected pre-debut numbers? 20k? 50k?

>> No.3615337

Please get past 15k on your debut Mint. Please.

>> No.3615340

Fuck off.

>> No.3615364

She's some sort of animal trainer, that's the glove they use for training birds

>> No.3615378

Wait. There's only three of them? Does that mean we won't get more for 6 months minimum?

>> No.3615382

>low as shit views on their debut teaser (nobody cares)
20k views in less than 4 hours is good.

>> No.3615395

If the getting Nijis in batches thing is true, then I think that we'll get cunny a little bit later so the cunny hate Twitter backlash isn't so big since NijiEN will already be established. That's my rrat anyway.

>> No.3615399

That makes sense but why the fuck is it so large? It looks like she could grab her genmates skulls with that one hand.
Not to mention that dragonthing she has doesn't even have claws.

>> No.3615401

So I checked out each girls Twitter. Is it just me or are most of these girls' tweets just nonsense that doesn't make any sense? I don't understand why they're talking about seeds and Doritos.

>> No.3615406

No, Nijisanji has been debuting 3 chuubas at a time for awhile now. This is it.

>> No.3615428

Unlikely. The next batch is already teased in the OP pic.
Check out the pink/purple holoscreens on the ruins.

>> No.3615433

if one of them is Nova, they have a Canadian

>> No.3615436

Ryugu is mimicking Ina’s voice/laugh. This is an outrage.

>> No.3615438

Like the other anon said 3 is normal but I doubt it'll take longer than 3 months for a second batch

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>Please get past 15k on your debut Mint. Please.

>> No.3615445

And they're all female too. Suifuel for malefags.

>> No.3615450

A forest fairy tweeting about seeds... is that really hard for you to understand?

>> No.3615469

>ERPing, frogposting and dropping reddit memes left and right on twitter
So they'll fit in right with their fanbase

>> No.3615476

Nova is too recent a graduate. Yui and Mint graduated a couple of months ago. Its someone else.

>> No.3615478

It's just zoomer memes, don't try to understand that stuff

>> No.3615490

Nova graduated a few days before Mint did.

>> No.3615493

It sounded like Pomu was rolling the R so she might be a third worlder

>> No.3615497

Could be alt outfits

>> No.3615498

And it has almost 200k on Twitter

>> No.3615514

Nova was literally the first to graduate out of all of them you retard, she set off the chain of speculation to begin with. It's why the image of potential candidates that always got posted had her first.

>> No.3615518

based numberfag. If a Gurame collab wasn't directy overlapping their debut I'd say 50-60k would be feasible, but with that happening at the same time I'd say 30-40k

>> No.3615520

The shoulders on the one on the left seem a bit too broad for a female.

>> No.3615524

Elira is getting so hyped there's no way it won't backfire with her ending up as dead last of her group.
Nice design however.

>> No.3615529

I dunno i think ill check atleast fiana and elira, i really like eliras voice

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>not even any coomer appeal that would at least make the boring designs ok
But that is wrong

>> No.3615553

I hope so

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>> No.3615582

Wait that sounds based. Link?

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>> No.3615624

>living rent free in your head

>> No.3615626

Luluposter really did get their wish for no males. I just wonder if that means HH will debut in a later wave or if he left for good.

>> No.3615631

spoonfeed me about personalities of them doxxfags, anything I should be concerned about?

>> No.3615640

They approve of coomers?

>> No.3615644

They're all retarded, one is a tranny

>> No.3615658

Of course, how else would they be able to compete?

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One of them is pic related

>> No.3615678

This. I'll see what's up though and whether their personalities are cool.

>> No.3615680

>noooooo you can’t just think about things
We are reaching retardation levels that shouldn’t be possible.

>> No.3615687

>They're all retarded
They are vtubers, that's a given

>> No.3615691

They want to give you the sex friend experience like Sara

>> No.3615693

Why copy the fairy tale/myth theme?
Everything seems so safe

>> No.3615713

they don't even have coomer designs

>> No.3615725

theyre not allowed to because of bilibili

>> No.3615735

Watch this

>> No.3615746

Since when did hololive copyright fantasy characters? That's like half of the vtubers on the planet.

>> No.3615748

It's kind of funny that Niji is always considered the "edgier" company when compared to hololive yet this happens. HoloEN gave us a full blown loli (UOOOOOOHHHH!!) and Mori's fat bouncing tits.

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>> No.3615753

The worst thing about them pre-announcement was that one presented herself as a "Hololive reject" on several occasions.
The worst thing about them now are cringe tweets.
Lize would fry your brain with her extensive knowledge of law and astronomy.

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By the looks of it it's good that they didn't try and be edgier because people are losing their minds over 1 (one) unfunny joke a talent made already.

>> No.3615773

I guess its like how Hololive copied some aspects of Nijisanji when they were the smaller group. Gotta follow the leader first while putting your own small tweest on things before going all in.
I also wonder if they went safer then usual, partially because Nijisanji is scared of going in all heavy on any non-JP branch. That or they read the complaints about their designs being too "safe" with typical high schooler outfits and went too far in the opposite direction.

>> No.3615790

They sound boring, easy skip.

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>only 3 members
>designs look like shit, incredibly generic and boring designs, all the roughly same body type too
These are the worst parts desu. Hana, Taka and Zea were also only three, but the character designs made up for it. Out of the thousands of applicants, they couldn't find an additional two to slot into the first generation to get some different character designs? Not even a single guy in the three as well? How does it take this long for only a 3 member generation to debut, and then when they finally do, they have sub-par designs?

What the fuck is happening at Nijisanji?

>> No.3615804

What unfunny joke

>> No.3615814

Not sure about that

>> No.3615826

I'll give them a chance of course, but I've got a bad feeling about this.
HoloMyth was clearly designed to have mass appeal, everyone knows about mythology and the Lovecraft influences of Ina and Ame were also perfect for a western audience.
Meanwhile, LazuLight looks and sounds like a cheap Chinese gatcha, which has limited appeal and the designs of the girls aren't helping.
But then, who knows? Maybe they'll be incredible, or at least be the most successful vtubers in the company.

This preview screams "we want the deviantart audience" though.

>> No.3615840

I like it, i like it alot

>> No.3615846

The one in the image.
This kind of response is exactly what I mean. You can't even reference sex as a western Vtuber without people thinking you're a whore.

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>> No.3615875

BTW, how is /JP/ doing? Are they fine? Do they pretend it hasn't happened, have they gone full /hlg/?

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Fuck no. That's red flag right there.

>> No.3615888

Doesn’t matter, seiso models being lewd is the appeal. Idk I’m just mad that the fish sounds like shes imitating Ina.

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> LazuLight looks and sounds like a cheap Chinese gatcha

>> No.3615908

why are you acting like you haven't been there yourself shitposter

>> No.3615910

I hate stick and glove shit. But at least her face looks cute

>> No.3615912

One of the girls is debuting at the same time as Meme Review, she'll be lucky to get to 15k in her first month

>> No.3615913

It's a combination of shitty raiders from /vt/ and /hlg/, and disgruntled regulars who are trying their best to not reply.

>> No.3615921

>Fish an' Chips Guv'nah

>> No.3615930

I just noticed that Elira's neck looks a bit long in her model.

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I didnt even see that, maybe my brain protected me because literally everything else about her is so good

>> No.3615944

You'll legit won't find a single /jp/ link in my internet history

>> No.3615945

I want Elira to insult me while she steps on me.

>> No.3615953

It's a unit, not a generation. They will be releasing songs together and shit. Ichikara might release another batch in a couple of weeks.

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>> No.3615963

Lmao shut up faggot. I was calling you out for the “it’s just a JOKE” cope. Wasn’t a joke, didn’t laugh. Into the garbage bin she goes.

>> No.3615970

Anyone else feel this thread glows? I bet some poor sap is paid to lurk 4chan.

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You clearly haven't saw some of the designs VirtuaReal has, like a furry bara daddy in swimtrunks or pic related

>> No.3615983

I was taking about her legs, but I understand your complaints lol

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>> No.3616004

You guys are putting your expectations too high. 10k if they blow up. If not I expect like 5k so I can be pleasantly surprised when they barely reach it.

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>> No.3616019

I love nijisanji JP. I fucking hate nijiEN so far

>> No.3616020

I've never seen someone get this angry about lubing a keyboard.

>> No.3616035

They still haven't renamed themselves to にじさんじ, there's still hope they won't go full retard

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>> No.3616058

>Full blown keyboard autism
I kneel

>> No.3616065

Your opinion is not uncommon

>> No.3616068

What, with some Twitter anon’s coom?

>> No.3616072

they are already considering it

>> No.3616080

These designs seem way too much on the busy side.

>> No.3616085

Feel free to go back to Twitter at any time.

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>> No.3616130

fuck nijiID for hiring boring ass mid tier indie vtubers to join nijiEN. They fucking ruined it. What happened to just grabbing some random talent off the auditions? That's how we got Mito, Noraneko, etc.

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>>pastel vomit colors that give the designs the feel of low rarity units in gacha games
I couldn't pinpoint why I didnt like Bans Hadas colors, but that kind of explains it

>> No.3616194

In a few months from now, when people are kneeling to these girls and green texting about how everyone thought they were gonna be terrible, I want this post to show I believed in them from the start

>> No.3616208

>You guys are putting your expectations too high.
Its Nijisanji not Tsunderia

>> No.3616214

Theyre trying to play it safe in wave 1 to establish anything and will take risks for wave 2.

>> No.3616234

ah, she's one of those

>> No.3616243

I hope you're right, anon. I just can't bring myself to feel optimistic about this batch so far. Maybe they'll surprise me but my expectations are extremely low.

>> No.3616248

if even twitter said that about them, the biggest hugbox there is, then it's really over for them

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And to think people were wondering why their KR, India branches etc failed so hard. Literally the only way these designs, voices etc stand out at all is EOPs going "isn't Nijisanji supposed to be you know, good, if they are the main Holo rival in Japan? So shouldn't these be Holo tier?" Let me answer that: No. No they're not guaranteed to be that at all. Niji is a mixed bag, a hugely fucking mixed bag. There are tons of them who have indie tier subs/views despite being in the company. They don't walk or act as a unified group and are full of cliques and drama shit that have made many of them graduate over the years.

They ARE that black company whose faggot fans stalked Aloe IRL and got her graduated just for calling them out in private (yet this was discovered and people went apeshit when they found out). Niji fans are so fucking toxic against Holo fans that Futuba Channel, our ancestor website, had a vtubers board for a long time but had banned Holo discussion off it until very recently (when it got its own board) due to the fucking shit behavior of Niji fans. Remember that. They couldn't even coexist on a site that normally is extremely calm and polite, so much so they unironically let OPs janitor their own threads and people trust each other enough to not fuck things up.

Also much of Niji's popularity is through its male talents. So are they good? Not really IMO. The most popular one Kuzuha literally just spams Apex streams and almost nothing fucking else. Is too lazy to even make thumbnails for his streams, just is the definition of right place/right time luck. Also he is clearly fucking one of the other Niji chicks and living with her IRL despite supposed to be playing a gay vampire as a char, just kind of a piece of shit overall yet still goes on. That's only a minor yab for Niji. Niji is the fucking rrat hive in Japan and it is not impossible there will be shitty catfights/overall true bitch moves from these girls, either to each other or to other vtubers. Ichikara doesn't manage their people for shit. There is a reason Holo basically clobbers them these days.

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>> No.3616275

I believe in Pomu.

>> No.3616283

Nijisanji is supposed to have low numbers, Imagining anything high for them is delusional thinking.

>> No.3616292

It falconry except with dragons, so the glove makes sense...not sure if it'll play into the character though.

>> No.3616293

yea, just like with Kiara

>> No.3616311

Seethe more holofag

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>> No.3616332

They rushed it to get ahead of HoloEN gen2

>> No.3616338

Pulling these numbers completely out of my ass, I'd say around 40-50k after debut

>> No.3616340

>Dola and Elira
>Elu and pomu
>Finana and ???

>> No.3616349

Cover interns monitor this place so I don't see why Ichikara wouldn't

>> No.3616363

moron 2ch created hololive board specifically because they kept spamming their trash in nijisanji threads

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>> No.3616381

It depends on if they listen to us or not. They probably get the impression that we want them to be like Holos and Holos generally have an idol veneer over them and if it isn't that there is a lot of mindfulness about what sensible topics to talk about and avoid are. I doubt these girls receive that same kind of training, Nijis are pretty much just given a model and told "go stream" and they do whatever they want within perms.

So they very literally could be identical to twitch thots behind avatars, literally vshojo tier mismatch vs something like Holo, because these are Western girls who probably don't understand this subject that well and simply applied to whatever vtuber things going on because it makes big bucks.

>> No.3616388

My dream of a Mint and Chima song collab might actually get realized

>> No.3616391

There is nothing to seethe about, just straight facts.
It's just more sad then anything else really.

>> No.3616393

Kiara really isn’t that bad, especially when compared these girls.

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tl;dr kys tribalnigger and dont shitpost with my hag wife

>> No.3616401

here's your (You)

>> No.3616415

For the new people, this is Cocohate aka tribalist falseflagger

>> No.3616431

Niji staff is unironically here, restreams get taken incredibly fast.

>> No.3616435

Kuzuha was groomed by a flexible hag while making money from fujoshits, you can’t get any more based than that.
Also didn’t Delta admit to have other shit going on in her personal life that caused her to graduate like her shit dad?

>> No.3616436

Holofag here.
I hope these girls take over Kiara's niche and make her irrelevant. I want that bitch to graduate immediately.
Outside of that, though, I don't give a fuck.

>> No.3616440

There aren't enough holofags on 2ch for that even after they had their own board.

>> No.3616446

So, who will drop a hard R first? What about revealing her powerlevel?

>> No.3616452

Knowing Ichikara and their numbers game, even if NijiEN flounders at first, they'll keep adding new members until they strike gold that elevates the branch, like what we had with NijiKR and Bora.

>> No.3616454

I'll save this as a pasta. Nijifags deserve the rope.

>> No.3616473

As on every board, there's plenty of people who enjoy stirring up shit and their endless efforts make it look like there is some sort of war between nijisansji and hololive, where in fact there is none - except for those few retards, of course.

>> No.3616475

This retard doesn't know about false flagging, elmao

>> No.3616481

>I bet some poor sap is paid to lurk 4chan.
For what purpose? To engage with bait threads? Because they're definitely not researching market trends or researching the EOP demographic.

>> No.3616487

NijiEN are literally all indie western vtubers with about 10k following. So yes, they are idiot twitch thots

>> No.3616488

Nah Kuzuha pulled a huge fanbase from his former life

>> No.3616497

It's Nijisanji in EN. Might as well be Tsunderia.

>> No.3616499

don't think HH is ever gonna be part of NijiEN. There's a twitch vtuber called Yamaguchi glorko, that sounds VERY similar to him, without the voice filter. I might be retarded but to me they seem to have very similar speaking mannerisms

>> No.3616519

Are Niji still bound by the same retarded ass-backwards "permissions" thing that Holo have to do?

>> No.3616524

>even in Nijithreads, Kiara still lives rent free

>> No.3616534

Kiara is annoying and loud egocentric. You don't know anything about theses nijis yet

>> No.3616537

Monitoring potential 炎上 if nothing else.

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>Gurame collab wasn't directy overlapping
You think Shark will be merciful and change timeslot?

>> No.3616555

They are but Ichikara was ahead of the ball so they never had to deal with a holocaust (afaik)

>> No.3616567

Redpill me on Mint. What was she like?

>> No.3616581

I believe he is talking about mod on /jp/ niji thread, he is prob reporting all of the reastreams which are posted on 4channel

>> No.3616590


>> No.3616598


Also, Holo used to really not care too much about permissions, until Niji fans (of course) weaponized it against them which resulted in the Holocaust last July. They are the faggots who double-tap striked Mio's channel over Capcom games and nearly got her channel permanently deleted.

>> No.3616601

Yes, but they have more permissions.

>> No.3616604

just your standard cute small indie

>> No.3616623

>wtf simping for Twitch holes is based now
Anime was a mistake

>> No.3616625

They do, but Ichikara is generally good at securing the perms. They got Nintendo permissions months before Cover did, and they never had anything even close to the Holocaust.

>> No.3616626

That sucks. Not looking forward to yet more of them all playing the same exact thing once they get permissions and then going back to like, Minecraft or some shit.

>> No.3616635

Great. Cute, funny, unique content. Tried her best to be a Vtuber the Japanese way and had Japanese fans as a result, impressive for an indie.

>> No.3616649

Gura barely cares about other Hololive members. Sure as shit doesnt care about niji.

>> No.3616662

So THAT'S why that shit happened. Okay, yeah fuck Niji, then.

>> No.3616663

Niji CEO is son of some big head in entertainment industry of course he doesn't have problems with permissions. Niggersanji who reported holostream didn't help either.

>> No.3616665

futaba was anti hololive central, nijiniggers moved over when their anti threads were nuked on NND. Hololive was given its own board so they could discuss it without getting raided by nijiniggers all the time.

>> No.3616671

>kiara makes people so fucking butthurt that people even shitpost her in niji threads
God my dumb chicken waif is the best.

>> No.3616687

>I wish people would wait until debut before judging the girls.
hell, give them a couple weeks before judging them, just look at Amelia Watson, her debut was seen as a fucking disaster in /jp/

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someone please explain

>> No.3616701

delusional holofag

>> No.3616719

time for your meds schizo

>> No.3616724

Her legs don't go up that high, simple as

>> No.3616726

Roommatefags, did any of them use to play APEX? If they did, how often?

>> No.3616745

That's schizo talk, actually.
It's not Nijifags who are hung up on perms, but Japanese in general.
Remember how Japanese deadbeats got mad at Mori for the stream where she just begged Atlus for permissions? Yeah.

>> No.3616747

How new?

>> No.3616753

what about it, looks hot

>> No.3616759

Belt goes on belly button.

>> No.3616761

She said I'm soaked in cum on stream once
Good times
But when she graduated she said she had some medical condition but I guess she's ok now

>> No.3616763

Just to correct the story for everyone else, 2ch didn't do anything except create a Hololive board for refugees from 5ch. The vtuber board wasn't very active anyways.

The 5ch thread on Hololive was huge, mostly because they kept raiding other people and kept getting raided in return. 5ch decided to move over Hololive threads to live streaming instead of the Youtube board, but then they complained about why Nijisanji was allowed to stay, so they moved the Nijisanji thread too who just said sure. So now you have a way slower Hololive board in streaming, but a ton of people still didn't want to move, so they kept making threads and raiding, and somehow decided to raid the baseball board to get noticed. The baseball board obviously dwarfs them in size and told them to get out and stop complaining, and then went to Youtube/Livestreaming to raid them there too. So now you have the Hololive board on 2ch from refugees, and the Hololive thread on live streaming which is less active, but still pretty active.

>> No.3616765

They could play some older stuff or fun indie shit, but unfortunately Korone seems to be the only one smart enough to understand this.

>> No.3616771

will holoEN be allowed to be near them?

>> No.3616778

You know he's right, nijishits.

>> No.3616800

Mint/Pomu played it only once or twice

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don't reply to that faggot. let him do his schizo ramblings with himself

>> No.3616817

That is exactly what happened nijinigs

>> No.3616825

She was sweet, had a nice voice, had some great live2d, can’t quite get the timing right for karaoke streams, and marathoned the Ace Attorney trilogy pre-graduation.
Also occasionally has to get health checkups.

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Fish lost.

>> No.3616832


>> No.3616839

Niji itself theoretically is just neutral and technically has non-compete agreements with Holo and is fine if Nijis/Holos collab. It's their fans that are something else. They make Holo fans look like fucking angels.

Their internal drama gets much worse than Holo's as well which can even get well-liked talents graduating, as they're not an idol company and are essentially Japan's roster of "just streamers doing what they normally do behind an avatar" - only they're from NND because Twitch isn't really a thing there. So for the West, they'll just be literal twitch thots behind avatars.

>> No.3616844

>somehow decided to raid the baseball board to get noticed
we should have raided /sp/ during the split when we had the chance

>> No.3616845

you're right, though there's not much to discuss except to doompost about nijiEN right now

>> No.3616848

I will subb to the biggest degenerate and so far it seems to the the fish girl

>> No.3616855

Yeah I need a source on that. Because what I saw was a bunch of nijitards and general v-anti.

>> No.3616864

Ollie is already going full retard so I expect one or two friendly tweets from HoloEN then pretend they don't exist for all eternity.

>> No.3616867

>They don't know about emon

>> No.3616868

This never happened btw

>> No.3616876

you mean what you saw /vt/ hallucinate

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probably less of being able to get close to holoEN, more of holoEN actually giving a fuck to collab with someone outside Hololive, especially someone with NIjisanji. Unless there's some roommate relationship that I dont know about then probably not

>> No.3616899

its a rrat, anon

>> No.3616900

I only watched her once or twice, cute and funny but her personality wasn't super special to me. It wasn't very abrasive either so I guess she's a safe choice

>> No.3616923



>> No.3616932

Mint did a Sonic 2 stream, I think.

>> No.3616944

Ollie just doesn’t chill, huh? Her compulsive need to be liked by everyone is kinda cringe.

>> No.3616946

Dory toes mermaid...

>> No.3616955

Yes, and the original Doom

>> No.3616959

Yikes those numbers are pitiful...

>> No.3616986

Kinda sad how she only sees Moona and Ame as people shes close with since they're the only ones that invited her to a collab.

>> No.3616987


>> No.3616992

>just streamers doing what they normally do behind an avatar
Why do people buy into the meme that Nijis don't do keyfabe again? Lulu alone should be enough to disprove this, and Mayuyu sticks to his character to a degree that's almost scary.

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I'd feel bad for the little yab machine. But she's gonna have to learn sooner or later how to handle people that just don't like you for no reason.

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>> No.3617036

I want to pump my big seed inside of her if you catch my drift

>> No.3617041

It's case by case. Some of them do it if they feel like, others will literally talk about their favorite sex positions on stream. There are no hard filters in the way for NijiEN to be identical to vshojo OR EVEN WORSE. It's all up to what their talents feel like being. If they wanna be like Holos they can, but they really don't have to.

>> No.3617043

Lulu is not in character, just very autistic.

>> No.3617046

do Holoniggers ever shut up? go be a incel and pretend your idols are pure somewhere else. also go watch reddit meme review retards

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>people voting Mermaid
Seriously, why?

>> No.3617059

Who are their mamas? Do they share the same one? Because only Finana has her mama linked in her bio.

>> No.3617075

I mean Debi is a thing

>> No.3617076

even as indies they weren't very interesting so I can't say I'm very excited for them as nijiEN

>> No.3617078

Add to that, if you can use google and vtuber wiki, find Niji male who was suspended almost instantly because someone found his roommate twitter were he talked about becoming vtuber just to fuck girls in offline colabs

>> No.3617080

So which one is Mint? Uma musume looking ne?

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>> No.3617091

I think more girls would want to collab if she dialed back the brute forcing of her “harem building.” Idk I find her entertaining but I can see why the other girls would keep her at arms length.

>> No.3617095

It's uncommon for Nijisanji to do the mama/papa thing. Most times they remain unnamed contractors.

>> No.3617097

Are the designs gimped for bili rules?

>> No.3617102

If it happens it's going to be with Gen 2

>> No.3617108

>admitted to being a HoloEN reject (confirming nijisanji only gets sloppy seconds who weren't good enough to get into Hololive)
t. Newfag
Are you unaware that both niji jp and holo jp have MULTIPLE rejects from both companies, and Holo even has former nijis? Fucking Hoshokawa was a Holo reject, theres nothing special about one of the EN girls being one too

>> No.3617117

no, Elira's artist is https://twitter.com/kamamesigogo123

>> No.3617120

>Based Holofag who doesn’t care about vtubers outside of Hololive.

>> No.3617121


>> No.3617129

No, I just don't get it.

>> No.3617134

the seed girl allegedly

>> No.3617136

>white knighting for Twitch thots
Heckin based?

>> No.3617146

Not really, unnamed artists are an exception, at least in the JP branch.

>> No.3617152

you need to go back

>> No.3617162


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What did she mean by this?

>> No.3617190

She's cute, what's there to get?

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Well then...

>> No.3617197

Don't act like hololive is any better with their constant GFE.

>> No.3617217

Yabe, and people called her the safest choice...

>> No.3617222

It's by far and away the best design, and at this stage is what most people take into account

>> No.3617227

Surprised they didn't go for a Holo mama to get some self generating hype.
5-boobed demon

>> No.3617229

Did they really forget about Ollie's WANGY WANGY WANGY spam under every other Holo member's tweets before her debut?

>> No.3617234

Kek, I guess she was too excited for the debut

>> No.3617236

World record graduation incoming?

>> No.3617238

this is what craving the demon's seed gets you.

>> No.3617257

GFE is only were you see it.

>> No.3617259

Not surprised. Twitter probably flagged them, young accounts getting that many followers and spamming that many replies is bound to trigger Algorithm-kun.
Fairy took one for the team.

>> No.3617261

give Elira 5 boobs or I riot

>> No.3617264

newfags same thing happened to aloe's account once

>> No.3617271


>> No.3617272

Probably since Niji/Holo collabs are nothing new but it would probably fall on the talents themselves to reach out. We just have to wait and see.

>> No.3617273

Didn't this happen to one of Holo gen 5 pre-debut?

>> No.3617280

I don't recall a HoloEN tweet "coom"

>> No.3617292

Not a very confidence-inspiring comparison..

>> No.3617295

I see it in Hololive and in Most Twitch Thot's. What makes them different again?

>> No.3617310

Didn't it happen to one of the KR debutants just recently?

>> No.3617342

Is mermaid going to be the least popular of the girls in terms of numbers?

>> No.3617345

>the one who is the most fluent in Japanese (mermaid) is also the most obnoxious
Oh no.

>> No.3617374

But mermaid has the least votes

>> No.3617377


>> No.3617379

isn't Mermaid formerly Yui, the person who kept bragging that she was a "Hololive finalist"

>> No.3617382

So she will be NijiEN Kiara?

>> No.3617384

The newfags in this thread are astounding
Niji fans have a long history of fucking eith hololive and even JOPs hate them, this isnt a western thing it's something carried over from Japan. If anyone replying to your post actually went to 5ch, even fucking translated, could tell you this. Or fuck, if they were even around for the /jp/ days they would know

>> No.3617392

If she was only Orange too...

>> No.3617396

Nothing is certain until the debuts. Let's see them in action and then judge.
That being said, Mermaid is the lowest in numbers, although with the Twitter Fairy ban, I suspect she'll overtake Pomf soon.

>> No.3617397

Not only that, she’s explicitly marketing her stream as coom b8. Bold move, let’s see if it plays out in her favor.

it will

>> No.3617398

what if it's her friend debuting?

>> No.3617400

Maybe they should have shut the fuck up until their debut if they can't help but tweet out retarded shit. This is their first impression to their potential viewers and they're flubbing it so hard

>> No.3617416

>Niji/Holo collabs
Well since they know each other irl it's a lot easier to collab than to establish everything from 0

>> No.3617440

It happens when a newly created account goes on a reply/tweeting spree, that's typical of most bot accounts so twitter flags it. Depending on how it's set up it could be fixed in a few minutes, or it can take a couple of days to a week.

>> No.3617445

>Joins with the intention of speedrunning graduation
Now thats a fucking power move.

>> No.3617453

Tweets are part of their personality. If that already looks bad it's not a good sign for them. There's basically nothing about this debut that is exciting or fills a new niche.

>mostly boring forgettable designs with weak use of color
>only 3 girls, so limited gen dynamics, variety and interactions
>personalities seem like bland Vshojo rejects, they're not seiso but they don't go full lewd with the designs either
Who are they even meant to appeal to? Who is going to watch these over either HoloEN or Vshojo?

>> No.3617467

Ollie is still an obnoxious bitch, turns out first impressions are typically correct

>> No.3617474

her voice is the best, just you wait

>> No.3617481

At least Tsunderia has SOUL
This shit is the same regurgitated concept we've seen time and time again. Absolutely soulless.

>> No.3617490

Yea, she’s mimicking Ina.

>> No.3617509

botan wrote a script to mass reply everyone with the 100 emote and got suspended

>> No.3617518

What’s Mayuzumi’s thing? I’ve read here that he does different things than the average vtuber, but exactly what?

>> No.3617543

>Who are they even meant to appeal to? Who is going to watch these over either HoloEN or Vshojo?
People who hate corporate tubers? Oh wait..

>> No.3617548

Well it's pretty fun to get "take meds" on things that actually happened.
You should check youtube comments to some of the Niji EN videos, that shit is hilarious. Niji newfags are afraid that holofans will shit on new talents, what a fucking irony.

>> No.3617550

No they didn't.

>> No.3617589

Nijiniggers are responsible for the Holocaust and Aloe.

>> No.3617600

Deep lore RP

>> No.3617626

Man, cocohater really sperging out and talking to himself for most of this thread

>> No.3617636

And by then no one will care since the first batch will already be a failure.

>> No.3617638

They look strangely similar to several of the HoloCNs, both with a mermaid themed one, color palette and looking like gacha chars.

>> No.3617660

Niji livers illegally stream with emulators all the time, no one reports them because harassing the streamers is psychotic. Nijifags aren’t like that except when they harassed (and still harass) Hololive girls over permissions, doxxed, harassed and sent death threats to Aloe (some of them were taken to court). Created and spread the Janitor drama that nearly gave Lamy a mental breakdown, mass reported Mori’s and Ina’s JPLT streams to get them taken down, mass reported Mori’s Persona joke stream for playing a pitch shifted, sped up and reversed version of Burn my Dread to get it taken down. Spread the fujo artists tweets and clips of Miko and Marine joking about the doujin, in order to get Miko and Marine in trouble. The best part is that nijifags attack their livers as well.

>> No.3617671

Meds schizo

>> No.3617684

ogey rrat

>> No.3617686

Yeah that didn't make any fucking sense

>> No.3617695

What's gen dynamics? This isn't Hololive. LazuLight is only the first group, they wouldn't be sneaking in character designs of the next batch if their debuts were half a year away.

>> No.3617704

Nijisanji fans live in your head rent free

>> No.3617732

I want to plant my seed inside the fairy.

>> No.3617737

Thanks for summing it up. I didn't wanna rag on and on but yeah the history is fucking astounding. To clarify Niji itself isn't the problem, its JP fans however certainly are. To all lurking newfags here it would be a very bad idea to try to model yourself off them or even associate with them. They've thrown more bricks through Holo's windows than anyone. Metaphorically of course, but it wouldn't surprise me if sooner or later one of them actually-does that to Cover's corporate office.

>> No.3617751

That happened before vt existed retard. NNDnijiggers raided Mori’s Persona begging stream to report it.

>> No.3617753

try asking in the niji male thread or the general niji thread. I've never watched him but I'm told he's very different from his roommate in terms of personality.

>> No.3617757

If you are so new even for fujo drama then i don't know, go watch some stream instead of shitposting here

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also /vt/:

>> No.3617762

It's hard to not let them when they attack you all the time.

>> No.3617772

Ironic how trying to blame every hololive anti moment on nijifags just proves how toxic and tribilist holofags are on their quest to turn everything into a console wars "us vs them" shitfest.

>> No.3617796

nijisanji fans also burned down subaru's house and got chris fired from hololive.

>> No.3617816 [DELETED] 

Nijisanji is responsible for everything bad that ever happens to hololive.

>> No.3617819

"Hacking to the gate" Opening Vtuber

>> No.3617829

you see anon, when a woman talks about sex herself she is a whore. They should be pure and get fucked by my virgin 2 inch schlong

>> No.3617830

So they are already whoring on twitter huh? I don't know why people are surprised since NijiJP is full of whores who willingly collab with males and whose content is mainly comprised of "pee pee poo poo funny".

Thankfully I'm a hololive fan and I know that my oshi will never collab with a male. Niji really is for the cucks and NijiEN is looking no different.

>> No.3617831

go back

>> No.3617836

How embarrassing, HSKW never applied to Hololive she thought about applying for Haato’s role but decided against it.

>> No.3617844

>got chris fired
They are not all bad then, I guess?

>> No.3617857

It's up to Ame, not her, but I doubt either of them are inclined towards caring that much about a rival company.

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Does Pomu sell feed and seed?

>> No.3617864

Shiba also gave Miko her illness that forced her to take her 3 month break. That is why Miko and Shiba don't talk anymore.

>> No.3617867

nijifags punched pekora infront of yagoo.

>> No.3617877

Are you just replying to yourself?

>> No.3617880

>/vt/ is one person
hang yourself, faggot

>> No.3617881

That was v-antis not nijifags

>> No.3617885

to people who don't want the giga slutty peepee poopoo vshojo, but also don't want the uptight puritan holoEN shit

>> No.3617892

This but unironically

>> No.3617893

are they whores?

>> No.3617895

What do you mean meds, this isn't even a rrat, this is factual history. How new are you?

>> No.3617898

But I love whores

>> No.3617911

To obvious mate if you pretend to be a new fag would have been better

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>Thankfully I'm a hololive fan and I know that my oshi will never collab with a male

>> No.3617932

>but I'm told he's very different from his roommate in terms of personality.
No, he's still a fucking nerd, just talks faster.

>> No.3617933

Man, all of their designs are a downgrade to what they used to have

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Let's ask the real question - will they play Minecraft on the JP server or have their own EN one.

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I don't hate the nijinigs but I worry their lazy hiring practices will end up ruining our little haven away from the normal fags.

>> No.3617954

>What the fuck is up with the Nijisanji hate on this board
Nijisanji is the Vshojo of Japan. Just a bunch of talentless whores whose content is simply sex jokes. They also have the most obnoxious fanbase in the world.

>> No.3617956

This is your brain on nijisanji

>> No.3617965

At least 2 out of 3 will be safer than Kiara though.

>> No.3617968

>but also don't want the uptight puritan holoEN shit
HoloEN isn't that puritan, they're just classier and more subtle about their lewdness.

This Niji shit looks like it's got all the downside of VShojo's bluntness and lack of subtlety but without even leaning into it with coomer pandering designs that would actually make those people interested.

They're basically taking the worst of each side and playing it too safe. They'll just be fucking forgotten in a few months except as a joke like "haha remember when people though NijiEN would overtake HoloEN? What ever happened to them are they even still streaming?"

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I wouldn't worry about that.

>> No.3617974

If the rumors about Pomu's past life are true, she's gonna be the most professional and least cringey of the three, but also a very safe cutesy vtuber who doesn't break any boundaries.

>> No.3617976

Aha, twitter account who leaked fujos break down when she locked her twitter was surprisingly using niji icon and followed a lot of them with active retweeting. yeah v-anti 100%

>> No.3617996

Nijisanji have a separate server for international collaboration. Since there's only three of them not likely that they will get their own so they would have to play on that one for a while.

>> No.3618002

Because it's already late, elmao

>> No.3618009 [DELETED] 

Nice narratives.

>> No.3618014

Factual history is Nijisanji fans having the power to force Capcom to give Hololive a takedown request? Are you drunk? No one even knew Hololive didn't have permissions until the companies themselves had to DMCA.

It was only after that, that the Holocaust was memed into existence because people started questioning whether they actually obtained permissions for their huge list of games in the first place, to which Cover themselves caused the Holocaust to prevent anyone from having their channel completely deleted. You act like reporting videos actually has any sway in causing something that huge.

>> No.3618015

>haha remember when people though NijiEN would overtake HoloEN?
I don't think anyone claimed that except the most delusional retards. I'm not going to compare them to the biggest fish in the market, I'm just hoping they reach a moderate level of success and are the type to deserve it.

>> No.3618022

But that actually happened fucking retard

>> No.3618029

Wait people already know about their past? How in the fuck?

>> No.3618030

Do any of the EN girls have Giga Stacy potential?

>> No.3618031

>no evidence
cool rrats newfag

>> No.3618041

Yeah, about that. You should check her twitter... oh wait, you can't

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Never watched a Niji, but I'm buying dragon coin and I hope their debuts go well

>> No.3618060

okay? go watch her, all for you.

>> No.3618067

holy rrat, literally just making shit up

>> No.3618073

She can be fairly chaotic. She covered this, instance.
There was a webm of it, but my retarded ass forgot to save it.

>> No.3618080

Every branch has their own server, but there'san international server that every branch can get easily whitelisted on. Haruka and Sara both got permissions on it recently and Ban Hada from nijiKR said she applied to get whitelisted on the server too. Also I think everyone from nijiID and nijiKR are already whitelisted on the international server.

>> No.3618082

She got rate-limited by Twitter's algorithm, for getting too many followers and likes too quickly. Happens to most new big coropo vtubers.

>> No.3618090

You're so fucking new

>> No.3618091

You can? You just get a warning and have to click the "Yes, view profile" button.

>> No.3618103

People were already speculating for months when 3 indies randomly graduated out of nowhere

>> No.3618108

Fanbases are huge, there's obviously going to be Niji fans among the people who spread shit on twitter. That's not even why Marine/Miko had to apologize.

They had to apologize for all the Holo fans harassing the artist and fujo doujin communities off of reading a matome site exaggerating about how the author hates how vtubers are profiting off other people's work because "my oshi can do no wrong".

>> No.3618116

Here you can see niggersanji in active damage control

>> No.3618125

Oh yeah, there's also nothing stopping them from paying for a server from their own pocket. I know some members of nijiJP have done it in the past.

>> No.3618138

Fuck you Twitter!

>> No.3618142

you posted racism, not evidence
tick tock holoshart

>> No.3618147 [DELETED] 

It's kind of funny really, yes Nijisanji fans forced Capcom to copystrike hololive apparently and then also forced their managers to retardedly delete the majority of their videos and also forced them not to bother to get the permissions they should have had in the first place.

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>they're just classier and more subtle about their lewdness

>> No.3618153

It's not about her getting restricted, it's about coomer content of her tweets and replies.

>> No.3618154

fuck, meant only for >>3618031

>> No.3618163

Anon I hope you know aloe literally was harassed for "leaking" info and "trashtalking" a graduated niji.

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Yes, you can. It's restricted but you can still push the little button to see the tweets.

>> No.3618180

The coomer content was fishgirl, not fairy

>> No.3618187

Minecraft world that the main branch is playing on till' this day was made by Dola.

>> No.3618199

Yes i agree that 35p went over board, but all of this started after niji account reposted her seething from already locked account.

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I hope so and I wish them well. I don't watch many holos and I was worried about them but thankfully cover has shit under control. Everything I hear about the nigs is that anything goes for conversation subjects...
That really worries me. Do the japs know how mental infiltrators in the west will go to push their politics?

>> No.3618232

Ah yes, please enlighten me about how singular fans can cause Cover to forcibly delete their own videos. Or why don't you try pointing out the 5ch threads about people questioning whether Cover had permissions or not in the first place? Because they don't exist. Prior to Capcom striking Mio for Ghost Trick, no one was even questioning their game permissions. Incredible how Niji fans had the power to get Nintendo to update their permissions policy too and not include Cover till later on.

>> No.3618238

I hope they fail. NijiHATE, HoloLOVE. Simple as.

>> No.3618254

Mass reporting for strikes in fact, does do something. If you are blissfully unaware of the massive Holo hatebase on NND and 5ch then all the more power to you. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Cover went and nuked a bunch of its old content -upon realizing it could be weaponized like that-. Mio's ban was a flashing neon sign of a vulnerability they could exploit across the company so they pre-empted it. As was just said Niji does much more flagrant perms violations all the time and yet they get away with it. Why? It's not a company or Youtube thing, it's a reaction thing from fans and Holo fans don't brigade to attack Nijis like that (even though they had every right to IMO).

In other words if Cover had nothing to fear, they wouldn't have done the Holocaust in response to Mio's ban. There is no way dozens of random companies over years who never gave a shit are suddenly all going to suddenly come and check permissions and stack strikes to delete Holo channels just because they heard Capcom striked someone. It's the people who realized that they had a weapon to use against Holo that would be the ones to manually go down such list reporting everything they possibly can in sequence. Holocaust was to prevent antis from getting even worse things through.

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>> No.3618270

Unless she wants you to seed her I dont see the coomer content. Plus that's fishsticks.

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Not really surprised but everyone's freaking out over them being "cringe" when they haven't even debuted yet? Do they not remember what the HoloID2 or HoloEN pre-debuts were like? They're just nervous and desperate to appeal to cringey redditors because that's the easiest way to attract the EN audience. Keep in mind the EN audience is more than just Americans, and ESLs find shitty zoomer memes like "sus" and "coom" hilarious.

Besides from what we know of their past lives they're decently professional, significantly more than VShojo. Within Nijisanji they'll probably be considered pretty tame compared to the shit the JP branch do.

>> No.3618280 [DELETED] 

So if the japanese Nijisanji fans are so powerful harass hololive members into graduation and they all hate hololive so much why are there still hololive members? Can't they just go through them one by one?

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>> No.3618286

Unlike HoloEN there's not specific info to tie their past yet, if they really are THEM it should be obvious in their debuts.

>> No.3618305

I'd rather just ignore it, I'm too busy being excited about Elira's sick looking design

>> No.3618332

That will never be not funny...

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>> No.3618335

Why the fuck does the EN debut teaser trailer not at least list one North American time zone? I know it's in the video description, but some people are too dumb to read it and will only see the video.

>> No.3618341

they need the competition to show that they'll always be on top
that's the basics of business anon

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I like those designs more with every passing hour. I just hope their content is good.

>> No.3618355

I just like to post my first impressions. I have no intention of turning off other people from them, and I'm still willing to give them a fair chance myself.

>> No.3618392

I really hope Pomu is her, she was my favorite since I discovered her

>> No.3618400

>never watched more than one Niji
You realise there are idolfag nijis as well right?

>> No.3618405

How long do we have to deal with shitposts like this realistically?

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Haven't even watch the roommates, but I hope Fairy is good.

>> No.3618436

General NND haters aren't nijifags you faggot

>> No.3618447

Sounds like they got burned once and took down the rest because it was a legal liability.

>> No.3618455

If EN will take off then there would local shizos, if not, then I'd say a month and then everyone gets bored unless it's a special occasion.

>> No.3618466

Been seeing a lot of people confused as to when they're actually debuting.
Miscommunication right from the start.

>> No.3618481

Do tribalfags really?

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There is cringe and there are red flags. Kiara and Ollie were obnoxious on pre-debut twitter and they turned out to be obnoxious streamers. I understand it's not exactly an easy time for them and hope that they will all make it but first impressions are first impressions.

>> No.3618553

It only takes 3 strikes to have your channel deleted.

>In other words if Cover had nothing to fear, they wouldn't have done the Holocaust in response to Mio's ban
It doesn't take dozens of companies sending a strike, and it's per video. Capcom+Nintendo+any random company from all the games they've played could result in a deleted channel. Fearing people reporting your channel for not having permission to do something is misplaced when they should be fearing the companies who are going to strike them, and they probably did both.

>Niji does much more flagrant perms violations all the time and yet they get away with it. Holo fans don't brigade to attack Nijis like that
Any violation you're talking about in particular? Or are you the same anon going on about how Lize/Fuwa are using emulators to play Pokemon? Also Holo fans do bridge to attack Niji all the time, and Niji isn't the only one they constantly attack. The difference is to blow something up you need actual ground behind it. Just this week Kenmochi gets attacked for playing Tetris on a private server for "permissions", but there's no actual justification for that. Imagine the faces of the people attacking him when they realized Suisei also played with them on the server.

>> No.3618558

Toxic twat is gone

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It never ends.
t. KFP

>> No.3618571

Just enjoy

>> No.3618593

Does that tweet really bother you? It's so tame I could see Ina tweeting it and she's the least yab HoloEN by far.
So far the only red flag for me happened months ago but mermaid's design is the best so I'll overlook it.
The coom tweet is pretty cringe but not as cringe as Ollie in general, and I find Ollie fine in small doses. I guess I have a lower expectation of female streamers, they're all pretty cringe.

>> No.3618594

Probably for a while. Any Niji thread on this board that isn't the general containment thread gets raided and turns into a shit show. Not saying I condone this behavior, that is just the way it is. Niji doesn't seem very welcome on this board.

>> No.3618614

If you watched Aqua's lates 3D concert you would see more then 1k dislikes only because there was at the same time slot Ratna's 3D release stream.
It tells you everything you need to know about Niji fans

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>127 IPs
Bros, I think they'll make it.

>> No.3618637

Tbh even threads about indies and vshojo get the same treatment.

>> No.3618643

Ok so how long do you think it will be until these girls show up on ame’s new podcast?

>> No.3618647

Basically anyone who accuses Holo fans of being tribal has got the biggest, fucking greasiest gooiest egg on their face considering Niji fans are 10x worse.

>> No.3618649 [DELETED] 

Prove that was nijisanji fans.

>> No.3618653

Yes and I'm proud of it. I picked a side and I want my side to have absolute victory. Sorry you are a spineless fence sitter who can't make decisions and doesn't have strength in your convictions.

>> No.3618695

Half of the thread is just dirty laundry / bootcamp education for newfags about Niji/its fans, and cringing at the NijiEN tweets.

That's not to say NijiEN will be a bust, we just don't know, but it's really up to the talents themselves on how it'll go because Ichikara is way more freeform than Cover in how they direct/guide their talents. If they succeed it'll be purely in spite of Ichikara's track record, not because of them.

>> No.3618716

It's hilarious how people forget that HoloEN debut streams were generally crap.

Ame was full on autism and terrible to watch. Kiara talked japanese 2/3 of the time and had mic issues. Mori was decent but raped by tech issues. Gura was horrible until song saved it. Only Ina as generally good but people called it boring.

>> No.3618725

>Niji doesn't seem very welcome on this board.
The Holocaust and the Aloe incident really colored western perspectives on Nijifans and Nijisanji (by extension). It doesn't help that Nijis never really had the viral moments that Holos had, and the only real viral moments to make the rounds were BECAUSE of a Holo (Matsuri's obsession with Hoshikawa and the latter's treatment of the former).

>> No.3618737

where the dudes at

>> No.3618740

An incredible 1k dislikes with 76k likes, and clearly the 400 dislikes on Ratna's video are all from Holo fans too. Are you going to pretend vtubers don't have any haters disliking the clearly larger event either?

>> No.3618742

It's going to be hilarious if they crush JP branch in superchats.

>> No.3618772


It's angry chinks you dumb retards.

>> No.3618773 [DELETED] 

I think most people realize by now that hololive fans will blame everything bad that happens to their company on Nijisanji. There really isn't any need for the education.

>> No.3618796

People have been saying this for months but the English market is extremely poor for male vtubers compared to every other market.

>> No.3618804

>The Holocaust and the Aloe incident really colored western perspectives on Nijifans and Nijisanji (by extension)
The power of rrats that get amplified by /hlg/ and /hlgg/ echo chambers is truly frightening.
Apparenltly, some still believe that "$103.50" is some sort of own.

>> No.3618827

They probably will. The JP branch already makes very little in superchats when they can buy voice packs or goods instead, and superchats are basically "who had a big event this month"? It would probably help if they put up EN digital goods on the official store and promoted it more on the overseas side. They would also have to stop asking for a Japanese address even for digital goods, even though you can fill it with literally anything for digital.

>> No.3618828

That was chinks you moron not nijis

>> No.3618842

Chink dislikes were deleted, when stream aired it had more then 1.5k dislikes.

>> No.3618846

No? I posted it because some people don't seem to realize that the girls are under a lot of stress right now. I don't think that some cringy tweets now are indicative of their content.
What bothers me is how mermaid is posting in general. Can't say that I like her personality and I'm not sure if it's a temporary thing or she is just like that.

>> No.3618850

amplified by the /jp/ nijis off in their own island shunning everyone and having a personal meido

>> No.3618862

Not really, it's just none of the english male vtubers are any good because men are held to a higher standard.
Take someone who is entertaining and actually good at games like Astel or Kuzuha and turn them into an EN vtuber and he'll do well. It's not like all the top Twitch streamers are men because viewers like looking at their ugly balding face, it's because they're entertaining.

>> No.3618865

Base on the voice alone, I like Elira the best. Does anyone know if she audition for hololive en before? I would be surprise if she didn’t get in with her voice. The other two are also new but Elira sound the best for me.

>> No.3618875

400 dislikes are a normal for such big streams, what aqua had was at least questionable.

>> No.3618906

I think of the 3 she's probably the most "ironic weeb" so I could see her being polarizing. Maybe not as bad as Kiara but she might end up being the Ame of the gen. Remember how bad Ame's debut was and she's still pretty cringe at times, especially during collabs, and still tweets dumb stuff all the time.

>> No.3618918

That's true for indies. When the market is cut-throat and full of thousands of indies, it's just that much harder to gain attention as a nobody male. We simply DO NOT KNOW if that's the case for corporate male vtubers because nobody has tried yet, and I'm sick of people trying to apply indie logic without considering the kind of advantages a male NijiEN liver would have with collabs and brand recognition. Before Kuzuha and Kanae/etc blew up people said the exact same shit about JP male vtubers. Just wait until NijiEN's first male before making huge assumptions.

>> No.3618951

The ID thread is fine, obviously ENs are more likely to attract schizos but people were saying the board will go into meltdown when they're announced while in reality it's not been that bad

>> No.3618970

An all girls gen was the obvious choice for EN, yesterday that white homostar was doing a EN only stream and despite all the shilling twitter and reddit hugbox do about them it didnt break over 300 viewers, there is just more "social justice" kind of support for the male vtubers than actual support.

>> No.3618977

Her white mascot is the one male of the group and acts like the raven from DMC5.

>> No.3618988

Aqua had twice as many viewers and twice as many dislikes and likes. Literally the same ratio.

>> No.3618990

Aloe was never graduated for the horny tweets, nobody really gives a shit about that. It's because she said Niji is a black company and Niji fans got wind of it. They just threw everything at the wall to see what stuck and wound up doxxing her so hard they were ringing up her family's home phone to make threats. Apparently the volume of this was so much that was what really cracked Aloe - they antis were coming after her family too. It is very difficult to forgive such behavior, and by "very difficult" I mean "fucking impossible" at least for me personally. If Aloe had said nothing about nijis and graduated anyway there would be no connection, but I'm afraid the connection is quite obvious. Horny tweets don't even mean shit. Towa's voice yab only got a week suspension.

She was suspended for some random test video that was technically against the rules - that indeed was Cover's hand, but acting in an extremely Japanese corporate way of handling things, like how Towa was suspended for lying about who the male voice in the background of a vid was - not directly because there was a voice that caused a giant furor demanding her head on a platter (interestingly, /jp/ stood up for her back then, although I don't know if they or /vt/ would have done something similar today). They cannot say "yeah we know people are mad she shittalked niji, here we'll suspend her to try to appease you so we can move on." Japanese companies are NEVER that direct, but people following the situation all knew what it was really about. It still wasn't enough however because it was in fact following that, that the harassment worsened leading to her quitting.

>> No.3619002

>The first two debuts overlap with the Gurame podcast.
>The last debut is scheduled at the exact same time as Coco's meme review, which like it or not, consistently pulls extremely high numbers.

It's dead on arrival. Unless they reschedule I'd be surprised if one can pull over 10k.

>> No.3619030

Go back to your groomer containment thread, no one cares

>> No.3619033

>social justice
>for males
are you retarded?

>> No.3619044

The problem is the higher standard. There're a dozen hypothetical ideas on how to produce a successful male indie and no evidence any of them apply. The english male vtuber market is not the same as the japanese male vtuber market and it's not the same as the english male flesh market.
Dudes like Merryweather and Takahata101 debut with massive numbers, entertainment background, good voices and strong connections and they still do far worse than women who have way shittier starts. The successful English male vtuber is basically a cryptid.

>Before Kuzuha and Kanae/etc blew up people said the exact same shit about JP male vtubers.
This isn't true. One of the four kings was babiniku. We had people like Gorilla and Inui since the early days. Male indies have always had a presence. I agree that a male Niji would probably do fine but the corporation obviously has no reason to take the risk.

>> No.3619054

Holo streams usually get like 20 dislikes while going. For a 100k stream I'd have thought maybe 50-100 max so 1k+ is a giant anomaly.

People thought it was Chinese angry she wasn't streaming on Bilibili, but it was probably both that and the fact she clashed with a Niji's 3D combined IMO.

>> No.3619056

Just like with the 3 girls themselves, I'm going to wait till post debut to form any opinions (on the girls and this board)

>> No.3619067 [DELETED] 

Prove that any of that doxxing, calling or making threats was nijisanji fans. You can't it's a narrative made up in your head.

>> No.3619069

>the event that made everyone here truly fucking hate nijisanji doesn't matter guys, just ignore it

Are you Ichikara staff? Because that's how they operate.

>> No.3619092

All the other Gen 5s got doxxed fucking immediately (thanks Nene) and only Aloe got that treatment. Only Aloe was on record trash talking Niji. Be in denial all you want but it isn't healthy mentally.

>> No.3619110

Just to clarify, it was her own idea to get apology video, cover forced nothing on her. And irl doxxing was the main problem since it activated her kusojiji who was the biggest anti in her life.

>> No.3619121

Have you ever seen reddit Holostar advocates? Half of their argument is "we should watch stars because females getting more views just for being females is not fair".

>> No.3619137 [DELETED] 

You are literally making things up that you cannot prove.

>> No.3619152

Good job outing yourself as someone who wasn't around before the gen 5 debuts

>> No.3619155

wow, nijiniggers are so powerful they is literally living in your head

>> No.3619181

You're wrong dude, Nijis don't harass Holos for completely inconsequential shit like overlapping 3D events. They do it for even more retarded and petty reasons like the Aloe drama. The Aqua dislike spam was 100% just chinese that are bitter she abandoned them.

>> No.3619184

Bro I was fucking there when all this happened last August. We all saw it, they were full doxed and it was because people recognized Nene's art and the other Gen5s didn't have good opsec on their Twitter accounts. Do your archive reps.

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>> No.3619206

I think being a whore was the reason she got harassed

>> No.3619220

I think that's you who are trying to fit in too hard

>> No.3619226 [DELETED] 

Now prove that it was nijisanji fans doxxed, harrased and threatened her and her family. You can't it's made up. That's the definition of a narrative.

>> No.3619227

Aloe faced what a lot of streamers face. She just broke due to extremely fucked situation at home.

>> No.3619236

A mermaid if what I've been wanting from hololive

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>> No.3619277

Nice headcanon

>> No.3619289

That isn't any kind of counter or meaningful rebuttal. What I, and I think many of us overall want to hear, is that Western niji followers ought to denounce such behavior. Instead you lot are trying real hard to pretend either it didn't happen or throw "proofs? proofs" bullshit doubt in the way or straight-up act like it's not a big deal that Niji JP fans are actively harmful and destructive to their rival beyond just shittalking. This is a serious problem and shoulod be acknowledged, if Niji fans are hoping to get along peacefully here.

The ball is in Niji's court for grievances committed against Holo. If you are good neutral representatives and had nothing directly to do with the fucking horrible Japanese fans it shouldn't be hard at all to distance yourself from them. If it is, we may have a problem here going forward.

>> No.3619293

angry holoturds already mass reporting her lmao

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There's a significant amount of vtuber hyperantis who jump on any vtuber drama to fuel the flames. I know Japanese and I've seen them myself. You can't convince me that it was Nijifags who fucked with your Holos and not those fuckards.

>> No.3619311

I can't believe she said the Gamer Word so soon, that's gotta be a graduation speedrun or something. Very based.

>> No.3619318

You should try vshojo

>> No.3619323

>singular fans
You make it sound like if hundreds of people all do the same thing that youtube doesnt notice when we know that's demonstrably false, nijinigger

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why do they hate their overseas branch?

>> No.3619329 [DELETED] 

You make a retarded claim you can't prove of course nobody is going to believe you without evidence.

>> No.3619336

I can't believe holofags would do this...

>> No.3619344

any time 4chan hates on someone that person usually end up being successful, refer to kiara, ollie and nyanner.

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>> No.3619352

Aloe got caught having a boyfriend.

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Update from Pomu

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>> No.3619388

you keep confusing general NND anti schizos and chuuba haters for nijifags. rent free

>> No.3619401

yeah, I'm thinking based

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>It's real

>> No.3619411

>proofs? proofs? no way Aloe shittalking niji and getting harassed 100x harder than everyone is a connection, oh ho ho ho what a silly fantasy you are a silly man


>> No.3619430

wrong faggot

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>every time pomu talks

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>> No.3619441

samefag trying to stir shit up

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>> No.3619452

didn't ask

>> No.3619483

oh so you have never seen the redditors posts about "watch muh holostars" ? It's rampant, none of them do what they try to make others do tho

>> No.3619485

Where is this from?

>> No.3619495

She is smaller than a bird cute

>> No.3619502


>> No.3619516 [DELETED] 

Don't go around spreading dumb narratives you have no evidence for if you don't like to be asked for proof.

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It's only first day, they even not debuted yet, and people already angry, talk shit to each other and start holy war with shit tons of texts, why can't we live in peace.

>> No.3619561

The proof is in its own fucking statement, it's an occam's razor dumbass.

>> No.3619586

anger is a drug

>> No.3619600

first time 4chan?

>> No.3619629 [DELETED] 

So what you are saying is you just arbitrarily decided it was nijisanji fans and that qualifies as proof.

>> No.3619701


You fucking newfags are annoying retards
Here is the Aloe twitcast talking about a graduated niji, the only reason this all happened, now fuck off and do your fucking reps.

>> No.3619752 [DELETED] 

But where is the proof that nijisanji fans were responsible for the doxxing and harassment?

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>> No.3619768

Don't bother it's a niji faggot trying to derail. If lurkers have a little bit of brain they will check archives to see what really happened. Moreover everything they need to know why niji is not liked in here was already posted in this thread.

>> No.3619774

have you guys seriously already figured out their roommates?

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it's literally just 1 or 2 schizo samefags shitting up all the big threads with falseflagging and hate. It's been proved multiple times. >>3619441

>> No.3619778

This just proves she's a whore.

>> No.3619805 [DELETED] 

They're never going to find any proof for your narrative though.

>> No.3619806

Why is Twitter so stupid?

>> No.3619822

Yeah you are right, it was holofans who didn't want to have literal slut who shit talks about rival company, basic logic and social cues reading

>> No.3619845

based okayuposter

>> No.3619851

link to these ""holofans"" harrassing aloe or didn't happen

>> No.3619872

Vkeemstar covered the ordeal, took Aloe's side, and treated that shit as a footnote, even using "other vtuber company" instead of "Nijisanji."
If it's as big as you say it is, there's no way he would've handled it like that.

>> No.3619903

So what you are saying is denying logical connections and what people had said both here and in Japan for almost a year now don't matter and suddenly it's all in doubt somehow just because it's inconvenient to your bottom line. This is disingenuous, purposefully trying to weasel around the obvious. You seem to think you can defeat this and clear Niji's name by just asking "proofs? proofs?" over and over and over. That does not, and will not work to change my mind, nor the minds of millions of Holo fans. You're only making yourself look like a stubborn prick which does not help the case for Niji one fucking bit.

How about I ask you to disprove it? Show me posts, tweets etc proving that literally all of Aloe's harassers, everyone single one, had nothing at all to do with Niji, and had no motive to act in response to news of her comments about it. Sound unreasonable? Oh gee. Too bad.

>> No.3619907

How can you be an Aloe supporter and not even realize that she didn't even call Niji a black company? Oh wait, that's because you're the same dude posting this shit all over again and replying to yourself if no one bites.

>> No.3619921

Nijis had nothing to do with it, but after interacting with you I wish they had

>> No.3619995
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Meido please

>> No.3619998

Even if the biggest holofag NRKM who got BTFO'd by nijis multiple times didn't say a word about nijisanji it was a nothing burger

>> No.3620002 [DELETED] 

I don't aim to change your mind. I'm just pointing out that you are making things up that you cannot prove. Spreading false narratives.

>> No.3620019 [DELETED] 

The burden of proof is on you tribalfag seething aloecuck

>> No.3620028

I'm not even the same you were answering to fucking faggot, end yourself.

>> No.3620052

She talked about seyuu agencies in that very clip. By your logic it's seyuufags that harassed her.

>> No.3620068

Something that can be neither proven nor disproven doesn't just automatically become a falsehood. Also when there are tangible premises for why Niji fans would attack her, but essentially nothing proving or suggesting otherwise, you can lean far harder towards one likely conclusion than another.

>> No.3620072

Lize and Sukoya

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>> No.3620130

>the bird has trapped me in its cage

>> No.3620148 [DELETED] 

That sounds an awful lot like someone who can't prove their narrative and is just believing what they want to me.

>> No.3620173

here https://youtube.com/watch?v=SVhSRmoGehg

>> No.3620223

As you know, there is no proofs in this industry and never was, all the incidents are either leaks, deduction or in the worst case pure speculations, as companies are never giving clear answers. And i can to spam "proofs?" for your every accusation.
People even use "proofs" "take meds" on stuff like when Pekora was caught watching Jun on twitch and you could go and check it yourself, elmao.
If 4channel archives are too complicated there are reddit summaries for the biggest dramas for fuck sake.

>> No.3620273

Niji faggot detected, say hi for your discord brothers for me, i'm going to sleep, chuu~

>> No.3620281

kek, this 100% reads like the stuff Mint used to shitpost on Twitter

>> No.3620294

>baited by photoshopped images

>> No.3620322 [DELETED] 

I didn't make any accusations though? Just said that a made up narrative was made up and didn't have any proof.

>> No.3620382

Are you talking about Pegora? I was there myself and triple checked that it was her account, so eat a turd.

>> No.3620396

You sound an awful lot like someone desperately grasping at straws while providing no counter-evidence yet pretending he's in the lead. You're not. You're only fooling yourself and putting on full display the fucking cognitive dissonance Niji fans practice. Is it that hard to say "sorry Niji fans were fucking faggots about Aloe, we won't be like that"? Apparently so. I'll keep that in mind, to not treat you like a reasonable logical mind, next time I talk to nijifags.

>> No.3620435

It lies on you to provide evidence that what i talked about is narratives and never happened btw

>> No.3620489

I also suck my own genital

>> No.3620554

Yes, but there's a difference between using that as "Pekora knows who Jun is" and "Jun is Pekora's boyfriend". Just like your moronic attempt at strawmanning here >>3619903

>Show me posts, tweets etc proving that literally all of Aloe's harassers, everyone single one, had nothing at all to do with Niji, and had no motive to act in response to news of her comments about it.
No one is saying "No one who harassed Aloe watched Niji at all". They're saying that a rabid part of the fanbase doesn't represent it as a whole, and it certainly doesn't justify "Niji fans caused Aloe to retire". By your logic Holo fans also caused Aloe to retire, and unless you disprove it by showing posts and tweets of every harasser that they had nothing to do with Hololive that it's too bad. Or gems like "Holofans caused the Holocaust because a few people asking for permissions had a Hololive profile pic".

>> No.3620690 [DELETED] 

Why power trip when you lose an argument?

>> No.3620770

If they were going to power trip they would do it way earlier. It's usually just spam reporting until one of them hits a janny who doesn't care enough about this shit and just hands out the ban.

>> No.3621007

That's not what a strawman even is; you sound like one of those "mature for my age" 12 year olds.

Asking for incontrovertible proof that Niji did -not- graduate Aloe, is simply the other way to rebutt the premise that they did. Apparently -now- it's totally bad faith logic and unprovable when the exact same question is being asked from the other way around. So you admit that it is unprovable. Thus, if it is unprovable, then why do you pretend it's "proven" a false narrative? It can't be false, if it can't be proven true or false to begin with. Even just being ambiguous isn't enough?

It can't even be fucking remotely plausible Niji had something to do with Aloe graduating despite the various strings of evidence and 0 disproof about them? Can I buy whatever you're smoking?

>> No.3621019

Oh, hello, racismposter. Still assblasted about your meme ban?

>> No.3621054

Apparently asking for proof of anti niji narratives in a nijisanji thread is bannable?

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