Numbers thread

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12th of may, 2021

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>>3577777
Good numbers bro

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>>3577777
Pekola......

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>>3577777
Daaaaamn Gura, I kneel

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Look at my boi Reid

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>>3577777
Lol nijis should retire already

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>>3577777
Miko showing her drawing power today. Drawing a cool 17k for her own stream and then getting Sora's stream up to 15k. Elite performance from Miko today.

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>>3577777
Apex inclining again

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>>3577777
Nijisanji really needs to secure more game permissions. You can't beat your competition by relying on Apex only.

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>>3577777
>number thread OP gets quints
Unbelievable lmao
Anyway a pretty low day all round today, the impromtu collab obviously helped a lot I've never seen Sora that high before, happy for daisenpai

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>>3577891
>>3577901
High hopes for the gen 0 collab. Might finally see Azki, Sora, and RBC break 20k without 3D or megacollab while being cute as hell, especially if the idol gen decides to sing

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>>3577777
La Lion Love~

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Anyone know what happened to Hiyoko? Cant access it.

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>>3577896
They have plenty but its just their Tokyo ghoul survives only on Apex. Whenever he plays anything else his base fucks off and his numbers drop like a meteor. At this point it doesn’t matter what they do, all of it being just a piss in the wind.

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>>3578180
new url
https://vnuma.net/

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>>3577777
GO REID GO

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>>3577777
I wish Gura and Pekora could collab, they would be cute and funny together and the viewcounts would make the numberfags cream themselves.

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>>3577777
It's nice to see Sora up on the chart. Wasn't expecting an impromptu Gen 0 collab ever

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>>3578189
How the fuck is Apex that dominant in JP? It’s not even the genre. Kuzuha has been trying similar games like Valorant and doesn’t get the same numbers. It’s specifically fucking Apex. It’s beyond a seasonal game at this point

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>>3578381
Me too, Nousagi. Me too.

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>>3577777
>#9
who?

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Rushia viewers flocked to Ui's collab I guess.

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>>3578381
What is even the point of putting them together if they can't even speak to each other without making a mess of it all? The only possible choices for a collab are Minecraft (assuming they don't voice chat), Journey (assuming that you can even get them together in the same instance), AmongUs (you can ONLY have a one if there's a clear leader and Kiara is there to translate or it will be a repeat of her second shot at that game) or some manner of variety stream that may have lost humor to either market.

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>>3578621
That they did, because Rushia is amazing in these kinds of collabs because she can fully unleash her yandere side.

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>>3578381
This is the golden numbers collab and probably will break records.

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>>3578649
You are overthinking it. Ame and Roboco literally just had a cute and fun collab despite Ame not understanding a lick of Japanese. As long as they are cute together it will be fun.

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>>3578679
I think it's clear by now that only a special event can break a record, less than a quarter of people watched a full EN collab vs. Gura's costume reveal

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>>3578189
I don't think its whenever he plays literally anything else. Just the games he has been choosing to play instead. When he does other popular games at the right times like Monster Hunter, Ark and Genshin he is still in the 20-30k+ range. Even his Rocket League shill stream was still up there with his Apex streams.

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>>3578381
The thought is already doing things to my number boner. Heck max viewers might be simply additive because I don’t think there’s too much overlap between their regular viewers due to their vastly different schedules. I dont remember Pekora doing a morning JST stream at the same time as Gura

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With niji en debuting soon ish, whats everyone's guess in terms of their debut numbers? I know the last JP branch averaged roughly around 20-25k, and the KR branch didn't break 1k. Anyone know the average for the last ID Gen?

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>>3578832
About 5k-ish? Take it with a grain of slay though, It's been months.

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>>3578832
Dunno I imagine an EN branch will attract more attention than any of the others. But I don't expect it will be anywhere near as big as the JP branch debuts.

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>>3578832
I’ll wait until people start subscribing to their newly launched channels before making a prediction.

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>>3578832
It'll probably peaked at 12k for the first one, 9k for the second and even lower for the third. Those Nijifans didn't even care in the slightest when members other than their oshis got 3D, no way in hell they'll come to check out NijiEN.

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>>3577777
checked

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>>3578832
20-25k for the first stream. Depends on how it plays out they could either sustain it or drop down to the 15k range for subsequent debuts.

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>>3578832
At this rate, NijiEN breaking 1k on debut would already consider a success. As you said about KR, EN will be delegated to a side branch and is probably going to be dropped with barely any fanfare or even if it did, not enough to make a splash. Also, its not as if its the first time they try to have a branch focus on EN. Didn't ID and IN tried the same? The whole NijiEN seems to be them doing another reset button on their other branch.

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>>3579046
Please don't be ridiculous come on now, I know this has become the console war thread but you can't seriously believe it's going to be anything like 1k

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>>3578996
This might be a good way to predict debut numbers actually since it would give us a good indication as to the level of interest that we can expect. I'll say that if any of them manage to cross 50k subs in 12-16 hours, I'd actually be confident enough to predict a minimum of 40k for debut. If they fail to get 10k subs within that same timespan then I think they'll be lucky to cross 5 digits. Also, the opening has to be perfect. Say what you will about Mori but she was a great opening act to HoloEn. If their opener fucks up I could easily see the next debut after doing way worse.

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>>3580391
Thought Mori was a fumble until she showed off her music (regardless of what you think about it) which basically saved her debut.

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Cool to see Bahroo count. He's getting 3D eventually. And got some upgrades to his model.

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>>3580434
I honestly think that's what made it perfect. It wasn't bad enough that you'd turn the stream off but it also wasn't so polished that it raised the bar too high to the detriment of the others. Mori was able to show that she does have talent but still had room to grow which is important if you wanna hook viewers who are into seeing their oshis grow. Kiara might've been a good opener but the double translation shit would've ruined it and may have caused problems for the rest who aren't fluent in JP. Ina I think wasn't comfortable enough yet as a streamer to be the opener and would've filtered the adhd crowd. Gura would've raised expectations too high for the rest once she started singing and confirmed that she was indeed HER. And I don't even want to think about what would've happened if Ame debuted first (assuming she still does the same thing). The level of doom posting back in JP would've dwarfed the haaton, kiara and ollie schizos.

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>>3577777
seriously westerners are absolutely fucked up. they are like chinks. seem incapable of not being casuals brainwashed by mainstream trends. they "consume" vtubers again just like they do AAA games. they only want to enjoy the same shit everyone else is enjoying.

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>>3578493
Autistic nips love it because apex even has a literal autist in their roster. Ironically, her name is Wattson.

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/vt/s tranny mods are so busy banning every bantz about amerimutts while allowing posters to say nips japs etc.

kill yourselves amerimutt tranny mods.

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>>3580391
The number of pre-debut subs is going to be lower than the number of debut viewers.

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>>3578679
A Pekora Gura collab would get 100k at best, and most likely around 70-80k, don't delude yourself.

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>>3580451
isnt it becasue it is a contest stream?

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>>3578649
That bomb defusal game.

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>>3577777
>Bahroo
I chuckled

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>>3578832
It's hard to say given the level of interest now, but pulling these numbers completely from my ass, I'd wager about 10-15k.

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>>3582562
That Mori and Korone collab was still cure as fuck, I don’t care what people say. The way she called her by her full name Caliopay was adorable.

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>>3582562
>>3582704
Mori and Korone's collab worked because Korone was trying to learn English and Mori was an English teacher living in Japan.

You can't just throw any two of them together knowing only a few words of each other's language.

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>>3578381
>>3582520
If they play something like gtav online gang war version then I can see a new record number, chumbud vs nousagi, add in miko and ame and the 194k record would be gone.

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Is hiyoko broken? I just get an error now.

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Why are Kiara's numbers so erratic? Are those little bursts just people checking out the stream and closing it after 2 minutes?

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>>3578189
Kuzuha don't care at all about views. He plays Apex because he want to, much like he did for years with PUBG and some time or another he goes to Valorant

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>>3579046
KR and ID literally have a lot of things going ton, to the point of original songs released. And ID never focused on EN, most of them speak indonesian.

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>>3577869
Literally a lot are nijisanji members on this. Not even counting the ones out of the top 25 which still are doing good numbers.

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>>3586923
Susan's ribbing working as intended

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>>3586923
That's the so-called "YouTube bug". It's a anti-bot feature that YouTube implemented last year to mitigate "spam views". A large number of those may actually be viewers who are using ad-blockers or viewing the stream via an unauthorized method or even simply opening the stream but not actually on the screen. Theories abound and YouTube is not being particularly clear about beyond what they've disclosed.

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>>3587068
literally the 3 who are in the images are all collabs

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>>3588074
Sounds like cope.

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>>3577777
Jap audio and English subs vs jap audio and dubs. Should thought that one through.

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>>3586923
just youtube retarded AI constantly recalculating if (You) are a bot or not.

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>>3577777
I still wonder why this list stopped showing premieres, the niji show today was around 30k live viewers I think so would have been there.

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>>3588313
It doesnt update too often, meaning theres no point in even trying to collect data on short video premieres.

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>>3588454
It seemed to be working fine before. They are half hour things like TV shows not 3 minute music videos.

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>>3588313
Premieres are probably in the Clips section

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>>3588634
They are there, but it doesn't even collect the live viewer data anymore let alone display it anymore even though it did up until I think sometime around the start of the year.

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>>3588274
Maybe YouTube is more likely to drop the viewers who aren’t engaging in some way? Like they probably have to mainly be watching it (not just have it open) and seem like they are actually there.

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>>3582486
Accurate but so safe it’s only valuable as a shitpost

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Miko and Suisei are carrying gen 0 so hard

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>>3588840
Yea pretty much, and if you're doing anything on a second tab, like browsing /vt/, it likely will count you out as well

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>>3577777
A bit of everything, very nice.

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>>3585383
EN gen2 presentation will break the record for sure

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>>3578597
>He doesn't know

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>>3589395
I struggle to find that believable. There is a lot of content on youtube where just listening is a totally legitimate and even intended way of consuming it. I imagine for mobile though if you change apps it probably wouldn't count anymore.

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>>3589846
It would count if you're capable of using Picture-in-Picture. As for listening content, YouTube literally has an app (YouTube music, which allows for back-grounding).

This specific AI is aimed at live streams though, so I don't know how that will work out for everything else.

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>>3585383
Vsinger will beat. Its popularity going to at kpop level (blackpink level not bts)

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>>3589919
Yeah I just meant using the normal app then you minimise it and go to something else. If you have premium though videos keep playing normally in the background on the actual app so that is probably fine too I think.

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When Nijisanji EN is announced, what numbers do they need for it to be considered a success. I don’t mean what numbers will be needed to beat Holo EN. Just what can be considered fairly good.

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>>3590477
I'd say about 10k on debut, goal would probably 100k

Although I'd be inclined to say at least 50k because "there are more Western viewers than JP"

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>>3590608
I don’t know. Western viewers seem more casual, and less likely to show unless it’s a well promoted event. If they can somehow establish themselves by having other YouTubers point out their launch, then it would help them a lot.

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>>3590710
You also forget that Western viewers tend to sub to show interest, not necessarily to actively watch the talents.

They will have inflated sub counts like HoloEN (to a lesser degree of course), concurrent viewership numbers is a different thing altogether though

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>>3590477
NijiKR is considered a success despite most of them being unable to break triple digits on most streams. I'm pretty sure there's no scenario in which NijiEN would be considered to not be a success short of one of the talents yelling nigger fifty times during their debut stream.

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>>3589674
No?
That's why he asked, isn't it?

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>>3594602
>one of the talents yelling nigger fifty times during their debut stream.
That might actually be the most successful thing they can do. Get a ghetto as mofo in there for EN and will be controversial enough to rile up the twitter faggots, but also enough that it will bring saviorfags once the twitterfags start their attack. This could actually be the big break Nijisanji is looking for to get into the EOP market.

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>>3594943
Popularity with a twitter war is double-edged. hololive's taiwan incident had one side legally unable to tweet, which meant the west was generally on one side or uninterested. A war over n-words would bring in the people that sane gachis actively try to avoid. They'd autistically remain in the non-controversial holobubble like a non-swimmer on a raft

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>>3594602
>NijiKR is considered a success
What are you talking about? NijiIN got higher viewership and yet they were still canned.

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>>3596750
NijiKR continually gets additional generations and support, so while they might not appear successful to us the nijisanji management certainly thinks otherwise.

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Wasn’t Kiara up by 4k after YouTube “corrected” the subscriber amounts?

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>>3597192
The race to 1 mill

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>>3597192
Ina and Kiara are always neck to neck. Nothing out of the ordinary.

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>>3597241
This is like a Paralympics race at this point

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>>3594602
Bora is carrying it. 90% of their views all from her.

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>>3597268
Ina had 1k more than Kiara for the first 2 weeks of April. So Kiara threw a pity party marathon to artificially gain 6k subscribers just to hit 900k first. Looks like that was all for nothing. It’s not neck and neck if you have to beg to force it. It’s just embarrassing, and gross.

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>>3597581
They have their own audience type, and their numbers have been close since December last year.

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>>3597364
Jesus, Bora at one time streamed for almost 24 hrs in a single day followed by another 6 hrs the next day. Nijisanji should not overwork their talents like that.

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>>3597834
Shes taking a break after CR I think or atleast streaming 2-3 times a week.

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>>3597581
Retard, every Holo except EN/ID does karaoke milestone streams. Just because Kiara does it doesn't make her unique.

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>>3594602
Niji management is keeping KR afloat in hopes of breaking into the Korean market someday. It’s hard to take what Nijisanji deems successful when Korean FBK is lucky to break 100 ccv.

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>>3597897
Kiara is the only one in EN that desperate, and it doesn’t mean shit because she can’t maintain the lead. No one is actually subscribing, because her views never increase. It’s just gaining 6k dead subs from KFP making dupe accounts or using bots. She isn’t celebrating milestones she is demanding them.

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>>3597988
In before Webtoon + Samsung debut their own vtubers, and kill NijiKR.

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>>3578822
Pekora streamed while Gura was doing her 10 AM EST Ring Fit stream. Gura led most of the time but Pekora ended up topping her near the end of the stream. Not entirely sure what Pekora played but it was probably Minecraft. Pekora's also played stuff like Dragon Quest at midnight EST, I don't specifically remember Gura overlapping her but it's probably happened at least once since Gura semi-regularly streams past midnight on longer streams.

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>>3597897
Name one that celebrates milestones when they haven’t actually reached the milestone? I just checked Pekora, Rushia, Korone, Haato, and Watame, and none of them have done it. They naturally gained subscribers at a steady pace until reaching the nearest 100k milestone. No one just demands 6k-9k subscribers for no apparent reason.

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>>3598094
Actually the v market in Korea is so dead that any sort of high profile Vtuber debut from the domestic market will help NijisanjiKR just by virtue of it getting more people actually looking into it.

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>>3596903
Could just be sunk cost. "The Korean market will break open any day now if we keep trying, I just know it!"

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>>3598237
If it's a sunk cost issue they wouldn't keep debuting new gens, they'd keep it on life support just like NijiIN. Somehow, they must be profitable, or at least not unprofitable.

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>>3598027
Her content is always about sufferporn. Saviorfags eat that shit like heroines.

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>>3598178
Interesting... makes me want to check numbers on ame-rbc collabs to see if there is a possible pattern. But my mind is too sleepy to do more than post on things. Maybe I’ll bother tomorrow

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>>3598094
NijiKR who?

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>>3598178
Even highlighted it for you.
The sub beg streams from JP in the past month or so.

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>>3598647
Forgot to highlight Choco's guerilla 580k endurance stream.

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Can a person play Apex this long without getting sick of it?

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>>3598267
I dont think you quite understand how nijisanji overseas works, a certain ID said that overseas just has to pay a yearly fee for live 2d support and get more and more features the bigger they get like everyone else
merch seems to sell for both ID and KR even though its mostly voice
it honestly doesnt take much for anyone to be sustainable for a year

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>>3598753
ask shibuya hal

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>>3598753
Apex is life.
It's like all the league streamers on twitch.

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>>3598753
Ask Chihiro.

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every last one of the HoloID girls are underrated and they need more numebrs

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>>3599131
I'm subbed to Moona because of the whole Hey, Moona! thing. Turns out her speaking in Indonesian is pretty cute.

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>>3599131
they are already pulling good numbers than the 3 niji overseas branches combined. >>3597364

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>>3597834
Nijisanji don't overwork anyone. They are doing it by choice. lol There's literally people who haven't streamed for 2 years and isn't graduated.

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>>3598825
Niji doesn’t take a cut from the overseas branches? You got a source?

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>>3597364
>>3599247
NijiKR: 12,790 subs gained, 1.42M video views
NijiID: 13,700 subs gained, 673.8k video views
NijiIN: 3450 subs gained, 265.5k video views
HoloID: 63k subs gained, 2.85M video views
Bora mogging the entire NijiID branch is a sight to be seen.

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>>3599316
He didn't mention about income. Niji doesn't give salary.

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>>3599247
None of the HoloID girls do Bora numbers though. Even with more subscription.

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>>3599287
I would like to believe you but if I'm not mistaken, a similar incident in the past where in Lulu also fainted due to exhaustion while live streaming, so I'm not so sure about that. I really hope Nijisanji management will perform due diligence especially when it comes to ensuring their talents health and wellbeing.

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>>3597364
To be fair, KR was already considered a success even before 2021 when Bora began to get more popularity. I guess the success of Bora just became more reason for them to not dissolve the branch.

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>>3599420
I mean, that's really no different than Korone doing 24 hours and shit. It's not really a case of the company going and obligating them to do that but the own talents doing it. After all, not all of Nijisanji or HOlolive do that kind of thing, right? In Nijisanji from what I see, a lot don't stream even 10 times per month.

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>>3599420
Let's assume you are being genuine here. Do you really think the company that has a not insignificant number of members that stream once a week at best and allowed it's top earning girl to stop streaming entirely for nearly an entire year is forcing anyone to do anything?

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>>3599440
Iirc NijiIN wasn’t even able to sell voice packs so them getting low viewership meant that they were just a money pit.

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>>3599633
I'm not sure if this is real but i saw some anons saying that ichikara said before how they were satisfied with niji kr/id but In was below expectations.

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>>3599362
The Apex buff

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>>3599362
Bora is their biggest overseas vtuber after all. I laugh every time I see someone saying Hana just because of subs, when Hana is almost at the same level of live viewers as Zea.

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>>3598825
Who from id said that? in what video?

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>>3599848
So what happens to Bora if apex dies out in Japan? Is she just gonna nosedive or what.

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>>3599969
I imagine her viewer numbers would probably take somewhat of a hit but not completely tank. She still manages to attract a decent sized audience when she plays FPS that aren't Apex currently. Think she was around 3.5-4k when playing Overwatch, Fornite and Valorant. And when she does her singing streams they are around 1.5-2k.

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>>3599393
Bora numbers is like 3k right? Moona gets those numbers when playing minecraft.

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>>3599362
note that NijiIN's number was inflated with saviorfags in April

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>>3599969
Bora has still quite a big public without playing apex at this point. Heck, she has more than a lot of JP members from both Niji and holo with just 150k subs lmao

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>>3597241
Don’t even bother, Kiara is gonna win. Not due to quality or anything just because she does the boosts when she gets near the milestones. Meanwhile ina doesn’t give a fuck about numbers and will do nothing aside from maybe a karaoke/thanks after the milestone.

Here’s how it will go down:
>Ina and Kiara are both at 995k at the exact same time.
>Kiara does a “——- until 1 million stream” and reaches the milestone before Ina does.
>Ina gets the milestone like 2 days later.
>Ina then catches up to Kiara’s sub count quickly because Ina has a more consistent growth rate.
>from this point on, Ina will always be ahead of Kiara because Ina has the better growth rate and Kiara has run out of arbitrary subscriber milestones to boost to.

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>>3600688
That already happened at 900k, but Kiara lost her 6k lead and will keep slipping behind for the next 40 day. Unless she plans on prematurely celebrating at 975k it’s as you described but its already happening.

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>>3600688
That already happened at 900k, but Kiara lost her 6k lead and will keep slipping behind for the next 40 days. Unless she plans on prematurely celebrating at 975k it’s as you described but its already happening.

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>>3600688
>from this point on, Ina will always be ahead of Kiara because Ina has the better growth rate and Kiara has run out of arbitrary subscriber milestones to boost to.
idk, she'll probably keep doing it every 100K

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>>3602642
I wonder what her subscriber count would really look like if it wasn’t already artificially inflated every 100k? She rarely gets over 100k views on VOD, so probably the same as any other Holo with similar views.

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>>3602748
After checking Playboard the closest I could find with similar VOD view numbers is Polka. So realistically Kiara has around 700k subscribers and 250k dupe/bot subscribers.

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Since this is a number thread then I will ask, does anyone knows how much live viewers iron mouse got in her new model reveal stream? Just find out she got one.

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>>3602833
Views vs. sub counts ratio massively varies though, that would actually something I or someone else should look into, who has the highest and lowest

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>>3602748
After checking Playboard these are the closest I could find with similar VOD view numbers, more than Polka but less than Mio. So realistically Kiara has around 700k subscribers and 250k dupe/bot subscribers.

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>>3602858
vnuma shows it at 14k I think

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>>3602748
>>3602833
You're either retarded or plain newfags
>>3598647
This is standard idol thing, Polka does same shit

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>>3602907
Thanks

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>>3602931

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>>3602931
Seethe in to her cloaca more, you literal crying faggot.

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>>3602975
I'm talking about endurance streams for milestones you braindead rigger

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>>3602994
Go back

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>>3602867
Kiara’s gets BTFO by Shion’s VOD so her closest contemporaries are Mio and Polka based on viewer engagement.

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>>3602867
Kiara gets BTFO by Shion’s VOD so her closest contemporaries are Mio and Polka based on viewer engagement.

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>>3603073
Shion hasn’t gotten less then 100k since 12/2020

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>>3602642
I think at a certain point she will be called out on it, or maybe she will just realize it’s gotten absurd.
Think about how stupid the title “karaoke until 1.3 M” is. It’s so stupid. The only milestones that matter after 1 mil are the 1.5 mil and the 2 mil.

>>3602424
Ina pulls ahead during this time because there is no milestone for Kiara to boost to, but trust me once both of them get to the 10-5k range away from 1 mil, Kiara will pull ahead by doing the karaoke.

>>3602748
Something in the range of 775k - 850k I imagine.

>>3602881
I wouldn’t say they are bots. I think it’s more likely that they are hololive fans who wouldn’t normally sub to Kiara, but simply did because she was streaming until a milestone. That and the hardcore KFP viewers subbing on multiple google accounts.

>>3602931
It’s disrespectful to the senpais to be destroying them in sub count and then beg for more subs. That’s why none of the other ENs beg for subs, they actually have a sense of dignity and respect for their senpais

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>>3603321
>It’s disrespectful to the senpais to be destroying them in sub count and then beg for more subs.
>That’s why none of the other ENs beg for subs, they actually have a sense of dignity and respect for their senpais
You cannot get more newfag than this...
>Mori - 【1 MILLION SUBS ENDURANCE STREAM】Until the End!!! 8} #Holomyth #HololiveEnglish
>Ame -【Oblivion】ROAD to 1 MILLION | ES:IV #1
>Noel -【Million間近!】100万人まで全力で歌う とまらない団長【白銀ノエル/ホロライブ】
>Coco -【目指せ110万人】伸びしろ歌カウントダウン!【桐生ココ】
Now kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>3602867
Alright, I did it. Percentage of subs as average live viewers, numbers from playboard which probably aren't the most accurate but it gives a rough idea
1.799% - Mio
1.619% - Pekora
1.566% - Ayame
1.463% - Aqua
1.328% - Kanata
1.297% - Ina
1.286% - Shion
1.243% - Subaru
1.126% - Marine
1.121% - Miko
1.030% - Lamy
1.002% - Rushia
0.997% - Amelia
0.987% - Gura
0.962% - Suisei
0.927% - Botan
0.815% - Okayu
0.810% - Coco
0.791% - Kiara
0.771% - Haachama
0.761% - Azki
0.758% - Calli
0.733% - Towa
0.729% - Nene
0.726% - Flare
0.709% - Luna
0.709% - Watame
0.668% - Korone
0.607% - Choco
0.565% - Fubuki
0.557% - Noel
0.550% - Polka
0.526% - Roboco
0.423% - Aki
0.368% - Sora
0.367% - Reine
0.336% - Mel
0.323% - Ollie
0.274% - Matsuri
0.269% - Anya
0.247% - Moona
0.195% - Iofi
0.186% - Risu

[Anonymous No.]

>Bahroo
What the fuck? When the fuck did he- why that character even? Is he babiniku now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3598178
Out of the girls you gave only Haachama didn't do karaoke til whatever sub goal. Pekora reached 1M while singing and did speech about it. Rushia called Marine when reaching 1M. She did have reach while doing a stream for it. Only Fubuki as far as I know reached it without making a stream dedicated for it. It's a standard. It's like a birthday countdown. It gives the simps a reason to donate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603602
fucking hell festival...
over what period did you do this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603602
Yeah, playboard only tracks like the last 2 weeks when giving their average viewers stat. The most obvious outlier of this effecting the results is Mio who got massive viewership for her morning call in streams during Golden Week. She normally gets nowhere near that viewership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603659
The panda is his character, the girl holding it his mascot (who doesn't talk)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3602748
I'm don't buy the subscriber inflation rrat but judging by holo fashion week, Kiara performed like a 750k to 800k holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603706
Oh god I didn't even see the panda. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. I was wondering why he'd just ditch his old branding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3599362
Include HoloEN to complete the foreign branches. That would be funny to compare, lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603752
adding en on the week they had their outfit streams would not give us good accurate numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603752
HoloEN: 117.8k subs gained, 9.21M video views
Whats more interesting is Nijisanji JP putting out 159 more videos/streams than Hololive JP but got 15.5M less video views

[Anonymous No.]

>>3600568
Bora's one of the best niji's at Apex and panders to nips, why wouldn't she be popular?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603832
>15.5 million less views despite 159 more videos
That is such a massive difference it almost doesn't feel like it could possibly be a real number. Wow!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603602
Jesas
>>3603680
>2 weeks when giving their average viewers stat
>average
could you use a median? It will at least get rid of some of the abnormally high numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603541
Doing a single stream for 1 million is not the same as doing a stream for every possible thing that can be considered a milestone. Also you included noel and coco when we were talking about ENs.
You’re only defending kiara because you are a mentally ill KFP saviorfag. If Ollie did the same thing you wouldn’t be defending her right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603602
>Kiara has more inactive subs than both Ame and Gura
LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603902
Bringing up Ollie out of nowhere. Ok you had your fun, now go back to shitting up the Kiara split threads schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603902
Your idols are chill with one another, you tribal fags

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603602
>0.274% - Matsuri
What's happening to Matsuri, she's bleeding viewers like crazy lately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603969
chill is okay, but i prefer it when they're gay with each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603973
Apex. Apex is only a buff if you're good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603680
It would be more accurate if I calculated the averages manually, but that's a lot of effort for something that wouldn't change the list all that much

[Anonymous No.]

>>3604011
She really needs to get over her autistic shitfit already. It's been what, a year?

[Anonymous No.]

But where are the trends? THE TRENDS. The point is seeing where things are going. Who's inclining, who's reclining. CHARTS AND GRAPHS

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603973
Thats what happens when you tell your fans to fuck off if they don't like apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603933
I brought her up because she is also destroying her senpais in sub count. Not everything is about your little rrat theories.
Go back to your containment thread: >>3573978 . The board would dramatically improve if you all stayed in there.

>>3603969
>goes into the numbers thread
>it’s not a competition!!!
So suddenly we aren’t allowed to talk numbers when they paint kiara in a negative light?

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>>3604011
This + it's only a buff if your audience is autistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>3604012
Dont calculate averages. Use the median over the two week period to get rid of abnormally high numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603902
No you rigger, what I'm doing is pointing out that you're full of shit and a newfag that should go back.

>>It’s disrespectful to the senpais to be destroying them in sub count and then beg for more subs.
>Also you included noel and coco when we were talking about ENs.
JPs can disrespect their senpais but ENs shouldn't - do you even read what you type faggot?

>>That’s why none of the other ENs beg for subs, they actually have a sense of dignity and respect for their senpais
>Doing a single stream for 1 million is not the same as doing a stream for every possible thing that can be considered a milestone.
Keep backpedalling to wherever you came from

kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603969
It's the numbers thread anon, if you want a hugbox for your oshi go to her thread or reddit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3604190
Imagine defending a number obsessed whore this much. Nobody in JP or EN numberfags even half as much as kiara does. I’d like you to find one holo that even compares to the amount of begging kiara does on a daily basis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3604190
Kiara shut the fuck up, and quite flirting with your favorite word.
Kiara is the least popular member of HoloEN by a substantial margin.
She has the lowest VOD numbers of all of HoloEN, and lower than 2/3rds of all members of Hololive.
She will never maintain any artificially inflated advantage over Ina because she is genuinely not well liked.
Any attempt to force people to like her actually has the opposite effect, because people instinctively despise desperation.
Be grateful for what you have and maybe people will get tired of hating you.

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>>3604190
Kiara shut the fuck up, and quit flirting with your favorite word.
Kiara is the least popular member of HoloEN by a substantial margin.
She has the lowest VOD numbers of all of HoloEN, and lower than 2/3rds of all members of Hololive.
She will never maintain any artificially inflated advantage over Ina because she is genuinely not well liked.
Any attempt to force people to like her actually has the opposite effect, because people instinctively despise desperation.
Be grateful for what you have and maybe people will get tired of hating you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603832
Not really surprising. Niji's quantity over quality is basically their mantra at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3604332
Nigger, you proved yourself to be a newfag and got called out. Go back

>>3604368
Meds

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/w/2021-05-17/p/5/
Third week sales for Bouquet
16,138 (first two weeks) + 681 = 16,819

[Anonymous No.]

Just a quick update

I said in Monday's number thread that Gura's RE8 stream would be at 1 million views by the end of the week and people called me crazy. It is Wednesday and it's already here (pic related).

1 million is practically guaranteed. Apologize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3604832
How many views did it start with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3604862
It was at like 590k after the stream ended

[Anonymous No.]

>>3604862
1

[Anonymous No.]

>>3604478
No I didn't, you just imagined that I was a newfag. You're the one who needs to go back to r*ddit for watching the r*ddit meme spouting BLM whore.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiarafags and Kiaraantis, kindly take your fight to your own threads instead of this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3604478
Going hard R, how brave of you Kiara.
No one agreed with you so you just look retarded. You seem to have a fraud complex because you are probably from Reddit yourself. So you keep spouting the same bullshit trying to overcompensate and act like you belong.
Now go back, and kys faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3605089
Nice RP, but seriously - meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>3578381
Actual build up brings more numbers than just 2 big vtubers. Ayame Marine did better than any other Marine collab for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3605150
>seethe
>cope
>dilate
>go back
>meds
>aisle 4
Got anything else tourist faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3597192
Ina got some numbers from her collab with Mori, I think

[Anonymous No.]

>>3605268
PekoMoona was months of build up which resulted in bringing HoloID into relevancy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3605305
>Doesn't know how common Holo endurance milestone streams are
>Not a newfag
kys
>>3598647

[Anonymous No.]

>>3605698
The guy you replied to isn’t even me. But you totally proved his point by adding “kys” to the list of words that expose you as a tourist trying too hard to blend in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603602
Holy shit why are Korone and Fubuki so low. What went wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3602907
That's actually impressive. I wonder how that compares with her viewer average...

[Anonymous No.]

NIjiEN is out
Finana - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu-J8uIXuLZh16gG-cT1naw - 1.8K
Pomu - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP4nMSTdwU1KqYWu3UH5DHQ - 1.8K
Elira - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeSUTOTkF9Hs7q3SGcO-Ow - 2K

Growth estimate by tomorrow?
I still think debut predictions are too soon but there are some numbers now to work with now. Predictions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3603894
I believe Playboard already uses a median stat unless they're absolutely retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3604875
Technically, zero since most people in waiting got shitcanned before refresh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3608348
10k by tomorrow, 15k by debut

[Anonymous No.]

Can anybody remember holoEN's subscriber growth to compare to this >>3608348

[Anonymous No.]

>>3606002
HoloEN, that's what went wrong. Everyone started to bleed viewers since they debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3609245
https://youtu.be/ibWJwbZqzHw?t=166
According to this Holoen has 150k subs on debut day and exploded from there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3611730
HoloEN debuted on september, korone kept on the highest tiers until november, which is when I think she went back to playing her shitty 20+ years old games nonstop

[Anonymous No.]

>>3611944
Thanks. Nice dubs.
>150k on debut
>max viewers were about 70-100k
NijiEN might get maybe 2/3 viewers of their subcount on debut date. Although this is probably another holo number behavior that can't be replicated by another agency

[Anonymous No.]

>>3609245
trackholo.live has figures for the 12th of September which is when Mori and Kiara debuted, the other three were the next day
Mori: 99,200
Kiara: 86,600
Gura: 82,000
Ina: 75,300
Ame: 74,400

[Anonymous No.]

Today's numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>3613914
SHUBA

[Anonymous No.]

>>3613914
Those Kuzuha streams I am guessing thee 14k one is the 28k one in the OP and the 12k one is an aborted stream for the 24k one further up? Going by the titles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3613914
So niji had been developing this kind of trick to win against holo, cloning their best vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3614045
>>3614047
One is from the day before that’s there because it crossed into today and one is a stream that went offline

[Anonymous No.]

>>3614182
Yeah that is what I was trying to say in a somewhat more retarded and less succinct fashion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3613914
>silently inclining the fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>>3613914
Shuba above Peko's MC, Sui's singing, Ghoul Apex and an EN collaboration?
Interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3613914
Reid was the "god" view for the APEX scrims for those that want to know
>>3606002
Didn't Korone's usual time for streams change?
>>3603675
Most Matsurisus do not care for APEX. Reminder that she made community posts/tweets/etc to assure her fans that APEX scrims and shit would not affect some of her other stuff.
>>3611730
HoloEN definitely sucked in EOPs from some holos and non-holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3614264
Suisei's singing streams usually do good. I guess Ghost and the latest live made her fresh again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3614383
It's a totsu? Those are guaranteed viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3614383
It's a totsumachi, those always attract more viewers than usual because holofans who might not normally tune in to that particular holo's stream do it anyways just in case their holo shows up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3612288
Thanks as well. And great dubs. These numbers seem to indicate that viewers equals 80-120% of subcount?

[Anonymous No.]

Which holomem are unironically millionaires?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3614795
thats on a time they had no En competition. You should cut that % by some portion, but hard to tell how much

[Anonymous No.]

>>3614841
Lamy and Reine, but not because of Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>3612288
How the fuck did Kiara blow that lead

[Anonymous No.]

>>3614886
i'm not too familiar with any of them, are their parents that rich?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3615030
Therrat is that Reine's family is *really* powerful, and therefore fairly rich. Some people attempted to doxx her and quickly found out that they were being tracked by a an actual hired team instead.
Reine paid for her spot in HoloID (her family, at least) and all equipment for the gen. In exchange, she got her 2 pals (who she befriended in her indie chuuba days) to join the gen too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3614846
>competition
NijiEN will be facing GurAme and meme review. Does ichikara hate EOP viewers for their EN branch? GurAme might be unavoidable since ichikara wouldnt know when it would happen but meme review?! They threw their chuubas on hardmode and added more variables to predictive numberfaggotry

[Anonymous No.]

>>3615150
>Reine paid for her spot in HoloID and all equipment for the gen
>all equipment for the gen
Anya......

[Anonymous No.]

>>3588313

Because the list is ass. Go view Playboard.co

[Anonymous No.]

>>3604452

> This again, even though any Holodummy only watches two of their livers and that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3615492
I said it was a rrat, and most rrats are full of shit. Personally I don't believe it, but that's what people like to say

[Anonymous No.]

>>3614484
Well other chuubas totsus certainly dont get that high. Shuba's ones are pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>3615155
so they are dead on arrival after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>3617556
Depends which ones you are talking about really. Some random indie probably not, Choco probably not, some really small Niji probably not. Mid level holo and upper-mid tier Niji ones probably would though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3615155
This is a difficult situation, but Niji can look into it and make adjustments right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3621056
not so easy to reschedule times with 3 ENs + 2 or 3 IDs, plus their managers most likely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3621056
They will look absolutely pathetic if they change the time now to avoid a Holo stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>3621207
At any rate if they do debuts and actually get a good number despite, it might actually work in their favor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3621252
The only good this does for them is that they don't have to deal with Gura, Ame or Coco's (and whoever's with her) fans. The downside is that They don't get Gura, Ame or Coco's fans. Hololive is so deeply entrenched, they may well be the VTuber company.

They could have rushed it out during one of the few days Gura was out since that would have given them breathing room, but now they're in for a battering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3621407
>The only good this does for them is that they don't have to deal with fans of those streamers.
Actually, they want to win some of those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3608956
Maybe undershot a little? The top one is at 8.33 after 7 hours. Doesn't look far off though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3621634
That's the whole point of that line, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3615724
I prefer to believe this rrat just because its so funny... and fairly harmless.