How bad is EN Gen2 going to effect EN Gen1?

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How bad is EN Gen2 going to effect EN Gen1? Cookie Cutter Sun May 9 13:24:22 2021 No.3499144 [Reply] [Original]

There’s already so much shit going on between members of EN gen1, what do you think is going to go down when you introduce another 5 girls?

Kiaras shit voice is annoying and she begs for attention basically. Basic humor and singing is bad. Gen2 will take all of her viewers away

Ame is a meme gremlin and doesn’t sing, or draw, only good at apex. Only her humor and streamer vibes is carrying her. Is her character going to be over thrown by Gen2?

Ina is chill and quiet and reserved, she’s only great when viewers want that vibe. A great artist though

Gura doesnt many talents and mostly is a meme gremlin as well. Her cuteness is what’s getting her by, and her humor. Any other cute loli introduced in Gen2 will be the death of Gura

Calli is just some other ara ara personality, a great creative singer though

I believe Gen2 will over saturate Gen1.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:25:39 2021 No.3499175 vtuber market is already saturated 5 more won't make much difference

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:28:01 2021 No.3499222 I can realistically see gura, callie and ame losing their audience for someone better. Kfp are basically chaos cultists and ina's audience is niche.

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:28:19 2021 No.3499230

>>3499144
>Only her humor and streamer vibes is carrying her
Nigga they are literally entertainment streamers, what do you mean she's "only" being carried by being funny and a good streamer? If this was really an idol company then Azki and Sora wouldn't such low views/subscribers

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:30:05 2021 No.3499270 >>3499144 They used to say Polka is going to replace Peko but the rabbit still going strong

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:30:38 2021 No.3499288 >>3499144 You're a complete retard, OP.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:30:41 2021 No.3499290 >>3499144 Considering you have EN gen1 already dropping the N word I don't think it'll be hard for EN gen2 to excel.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:31:05 2021 No.3499301 >>3499144 No, Gura's strength is her singing, that's always how it's been.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:31:10 2021 No.3499302 English speakers don't care about idol autism like many here. Your analysis on the issue is too narrow as a result.

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:32:43 2021 No.3499346

>>3499144
You are thinking like a consumer that is only looking at shit that is handed to you. Never thinking what innovation can happen if things are done differently or some things are added. If hololive stopped at Gen3 since at that point they already 22 girls and technically Gen3 dominated the vtubing scene then you wouldn't have a global push through asacoco. You wouldn't have SCs big hitters like Nene or Lamy. You wouldn't have HoloEN. New Gens functions to draw in new crowds and market to Hololive. It isn't inherently to actually just attract the same people. HoloEN badly needs variety and creative people that knows how to stream stuff other platform games, shitty meme games or Kiara. They can't actually do any big events because noone is creative enough to think of one. People are relying on Kiara but Kiara can only think of gaming collabs. No Mio, Marine or Subaru like creativity.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:32:46 2021 No.3499348 >>3499144 you clearly don't watch them if you do not know of their talents besides the surface level stuff you see from clips.

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:32:58 2021 No.3499352

>>3499222
Not a surprise since a certain angel leech already did something like that and pretty easily at that. Say what you want about KFPs but they’re fiercely loyal to the point of insanity, followed only bu Takodachis. Most people will kill for such a fanbase.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:33:54 2021 No.3499376 >There’s already so much shit going on between members of EN gen1 Like what? They seem to be doing just fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:34:39 2021 No.3499394 Gen2 EN won’t be unique then considering they won’t harbor anything else other than having a “good streamer personality ”, since idol shit doesn’t matter apparently. It’ll just over saturate Gen1.

>>	Vgfc Sun May 9 13:34:58 2021 No.3499402 >>3499376 Just put lilypichu in hololive en gen 2 it will be golden

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:35:08 2021 No.3499405 >>3499144 this is why you're a consoomer and not a producer

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:36:06 2021 No.3499435 >>3499144 >Calli is just some other ara ara personality Nigga, what time are you still living? Mori has never been even ara ara personality?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:36:47 2021 No.3499448 File: 35 KB, 550x366, pepe of time.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3499402 I literally haven't heard than name in over 8 years when I was into league, is she still a thing?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:36:48 2021 No.3499450 >>3499376 There’s many flaws in Gen1

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:37:55 2021 No.3499483 >>3499144 >Ame is a meme gremlin and doesn’t sing, or draw, only good at apex. Only her humor and streamer vibes is carrying her. Is her character going to be over thrown by Gen2? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:38:03 2021 No.3499487 >>3499402 lilypichu is shit at games and her voice gets annoying quick. cringe

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:38:31 2021 No.3499497 I hope HoloEN 2nd gen is good so the garbage that is HoloEN 1st gen can fade into irrelevancy.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:38:42 2021 No.3499499 Once they have 10(+ the vsinger) people we might get some actual MC server interaction so I'd say that's a net positive

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:38:50 2021 No.3499502 >>3499230 >AZKi Not an idol. She's a diva. They're different things in the entertainment industry.

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:38:59 2021 No.3499504

>>3499346
This is literally a product. A consumer thinking like a consumer, imagine that.
>>3499348
Talents per EN:
Kiara - Speaks multiple languages. Sings.
Gura - Forbidden knowledge aside, sings.
Calli - Talented in music, not a bad artist.
Ina - Amazing artist.
Ame - Forbidden knowledge aside, literal streamer.

Let's put it this way, none of them will ever be on the level of Fubuki being able to carry (multiple) chuffed streams or on the level of Choco being able to uno reverse meme gremlins without missing a beat.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:38:59 2021 No.3499505 >>3499450 There's flaws to all things, I'm specifically asking if they've started to become unprofitable or have internal drama that may lead to their early retirement.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:39:27 2021 No.3499515 >>3499222 Same actually, kfp and takos are pretty loyal for the most part.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:40:39 2021 No.3499542 >>3499144 They'll introduce four girls and one transgirl.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:41:07 2021 No.3499555 >>3499222 I don't know about deadbeats leaving Mori. She has pretty loyal fanbase.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:41:15 2021 No.3499558 >>3499505 If you look at it like that, all the girls have something especially those in JP. Probably there’s a higher chance of all of them retiring first given how long they’ve been doing this.

>>	Vgfc Sun May 9 13:41:21 2021 No.3499562 >>3499487 Dumbass think about it gura was popular when she was senzawa she have 4 fucking channel for fuck sake and lilypichu is popular and she isnt even a vtuber soo it will work if lilypichu join

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:41:37 2021 No.3499569 >>3499542 so 5 girls

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:41:39 2021 No.3499571 >>3499144 > le annoying voice > le gremlin > le sleep aid > le loli > it's obvious you didn't even make an effort at this point Watch some streams and/or kys

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:42:16 2021 No.3499581 >>3499542 >one transgirl Lol pleaaaase let this happen

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:42:31 2021 No.3499588 >>3499504 So?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:42:34 2021 No.3499590 >>3499555 Her paypigs literally emptied their entire wallets at the sight of a blue version of Amelia.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:43:21 2021 No.3499614 >>3499569 No >>3499571 I mean, prove them wrong? lol. Kiara's voice is literally annoying. People like it, nothing wrong with that but no point in trying to cope.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:45:09 2021 No.3499668 >>3499614 Ame’s voice is annoying to me. So is Mori's when she does cringe talk that makes it sound like she’s having trouble breathing. I think its safe to say its subjective.

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:45:43 2021 No.3499686

>>3499504
The OP is using oversaturation as if his post is targeted answer thing in business sense. Saying Gen2 does not make sense. I am only pointing out that none of the progress that has been made in Hololive is even close to possible if they Cover didn't push hard enough in looking for the next big thing. HoloEN is at this point at a very slow incline. No variations. Just more of the same. Variations can only be done if you add more components. Those components can either destroy or improve the brand but as far as Cover's recruiting goes, I would say they have been consistently good in picking out their talents. No one is perfect but since they are group, they will buff each other up.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:45:52 2021 No.3499690 EOPs are so starved for content they watch HoloID 5 more streamers won't oversaturate anything, if anything they will generate a lot of fresher content

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:47:48 2021 No.3499736

It will work exactly like HoloJP, there will be higher numbers and lower numbers between the Gens but at least they will have more collab partners and have different relationships with each other, HoloEN2 will still be a massive success even if nobody in the group breaks 1mil subs and probably just one of them will have been a chuuba previously
They will still dominate the western vtuber scene regardless of anything else just because of the Hololive brand

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:48:18 2021 No.3499751 >>3499690 I wonder wouldn't EN2 affect ID numbers than it does to EN1?

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:48:53 2021 No.3499764

>>3499144
>There’s already so much shit going on between members of EN gen1
Such as? Kiara&Calli are good friends. Same goes for Ame&Gura (Ame will not judge Gura for the retardation of her fanbase). And nobody has beef with Ina.
>what do you think is going to go down when you introduce another 5 girls?
A bunch of awkward collabs. At worst, we have another Ollie-esque girl who forces herself too hard on her senpais in order to leech clicks.
>Kiaras shit voice is annoying and she begs for attention basically. Basic humor and singing is bad. Gen2 will take all of her viewers away.
Why? There are already many alternatives to Kiara and her viewers still stay with her. The worst thing that could happen to the annoying orange is if a younter, even more energetic version of herself shows up.
>Ame is a meme gremlin and doesn’t sing, or draw, only good at apex. Only her humor and streamer vibes is carrying her. Is her character going to be over thrown by Gen2?
Ame is not good at apex and although I do not know what her appeal is, she must have something unique to her or else people would not watch. Again: Only when somebody very similar to her appears in Gen2 is there something to worry about but I see no reason why Cover would go for copies of their talents.
>Any other cute loli introduced in Gen2 will be the death of Gura
I highly doubt they can find anybody who is even half as cute as Gura and if they do, then Gura and her will probably just do tons of collabs and grow their audience together.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:49:16 2021 No.3499774 >>3499571 You didn’t get the point you dumbass. Gen2 members there might be a new loli, a new gremlin, a sleep aid that can take over Gen1

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:49:25 2021 No.3499780

it’s simple. I don’t give a fuck if there’s a Gen 6 for JP because I can’t understand them, but I don’t want a EN Gen 2 because I can understand them and i’m already loyal to the five of them although whilst I also don’t care, EN Vsinger might be interesting

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:49:35 2021 No.3499784 >>3499751 it's a possibility, and i imagine it's why management is pushing the ID girls to speak more indonesian

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:50:03 2021 No.3499800

>>3499144
You fucking retaarded OP. By association, EN will not lose much from a new generation or two. A group growing gives it a chance to add variety to the network, thus increasing the potential market that they can reach, especially with all of those dead hour spots waiting to be filled up.

The ones that stand to gain or lose the most are the JP's that are looking to expand their market beyond just Japan.

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:50:11 2021 No.3499802

>>3499690
I stopped watching HoloEN. I mostly watch HoloJP. There is just more interactions there. More variations in streaming content. If majority is playing monhun you know for sure there is one that is not. HoloEN doesn't even stream at the same timeslots to induce collabs. They have to force themselves to wakeup early or stay so late. They are a bunch of sololives.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:50:47 2021 No.3499819 >>3499802 SEAcucks need to hang

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:51:04 2021 No.3499826

>>3499144
I've said it before and I'll say it again, gen 2 need some niche girls.
An EN Korone would be the shit, someone who playes old and obscure games. Imagine an EN Holo who plays old stuff like Quake 1 (probably without music because of youtubes retared copyright, a shame but necessary) and Half Life 1. I'd watch the shit out of that.
Hell, a boomer shooter Holo would be an instant favourite for me.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:51:21 2021 No.3499839 >>3499144 >cookie cutter kys

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:51:57 2021 No.3499852 all i want is for them to not debut in the exact same day like HoloEN, what a dumb managerial decision, literally ruined Ame's debut from how tired she was by that point

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:52:34 2021 No.3499865 Is this the SEANigger COntainment thread?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:52:36 2021 No.3499867 >Any other cute loli introduced in Gen2 will be the death of Gura As Nyanners has already stated, Gura has a 5D chess brain that allows her to play up the character in the most strategic way possible to manipulate uoohh posters, she'll be fine.

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:53:16 2021 No.3499887

>>3499144
Kiara's still has the multilingual niche to fall back on, and can bridge between the JPs and EN, so unless they hire more JP speakers, she has some form of security.
Ame has streamer chops and a dedicated viewerbase, so she's fine. Easily one of the most creative with her streams.
Ina's an industry professional illustrator and plenty of people watch her art streams to learn or even just to see her workflow.
Gura's going to be carried by her voice and design for a while. Non English speakers watch her just because she's cute, and I don't see that stopping.
Mori's music career probably won't take a hit from EN2 either, so she's safe as well.
Cover honestly did a pretty good job picking their talents for EN.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:54:27 2021 No.3499912 >>3499802 HoloEN 1st gen is just 5 untalented generic western women with no entertainment value.

>>	Okido Sun May 9 13:55:34 2021 No.3499936 Hololive en gen 2 didnt even debut and you talking like it will ruin hololive en

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:56:58 2021 No.3499971

Gen 2.
Proper cute gamer that will play AAA games and try in earnest to win. Maybe even do RTAs, like Aqua
A variety streamer that is great in zatsudans and is not GFE, like Subaru
A clutch streamer that can try out games and be entertaining all throughout, like Fubuki
A esports girl that looks hot af, like Ichinose
Someone like Polka.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:57:24 2021 No.3499984 Ogey

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:57:41 2021 No.3499989 >>3499912 > Literally every member is past or pushing a million subs. Okay, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:58:20 2021 No.3500007 i just want someone who will play fighting games with mori, i don't care if they're the worst player out there

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:59:08 2021 No.3500025 >>3499144 Gen. 2 just needs chemistry. That's it. I'm tired of watching introverts force laughter and fail at conversation. Kiara deserves better.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:59:36 2021 No.3500035 >>3499912 Watching Marine's fashion inspection stream with Korone, Kanata, Mio and Ayame made me realize that HoloEN could actually do that too and be funny as well but they won't because they are not that creative to even think of a stream like that.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:01:14 2021 No.3500085 >>3499590 That seems more like they have too much money and less of them stopping supporting their oshi.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:01:36 2021 No.3500097 >>3500035 Maybe, just maybe, because they live in 5 different timezones ?

>>	Yes Sun May 9 14:01:47 2021 No.3500104 Can you all just wait until hololive en gen 2 is debut geez its not like it will ruin hololive

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:03:02 2021 No.3500154 >>3500085 True. I’ve seen the same deadbeats blow their loads on 3 different streams before on the same day. Makes you wonder how they get all that money.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:03:04 2021 No.3500156 >>3499502 her numbers are still shit and that's all that matters

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:03:12 2021 No.3500162 >>3500097 You know they just did a collab right? They also did that jackbox thing? Jackbox is actually funny because the game is funny. It was easy for things to fall into places

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:03:21 2021 No.3500168 >>3500104 I just want to doompost anon. Nothing else matters

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:04:41 2021 No.3500198 >>3500156 She rarely streams and is focus on music. She’s widely well known in Japan and worked for two company at a time. Streaming at this point is just downtime and a way to make extra scratch, like Sora or Kizuna Ai.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:05:45 2021 No.3500226 >>3499487 Her voice is fine, it's her word choice that urks me.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:06:34 2021 No.3500248

>>3499764
>Ame is not good at apex and although I do not know what her appeal is, she must have something unique to her or else people would not watch
Did you watch the outfit reveal stream? Ame's appeal is that she is the entertainer. Lots of creative ways to liven up the stream, between the pokemon reveal, the rocket Ame during karaoke, or other stuff like that.
Also, I'm not sure that she's good at Apex, but fps is definitely the genre she is best in, both from a gameplay perspective and an entertainment perspective - it lets her go full la creatura. There are other games that do that, of course, but they're quite janky and just not good overall from the vtuber perspective to constantly get frustrated at jank rather than getting outplayed.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:09:34 2021 No.3500334 >>3500162 I know bit collabs without an announcement wont be frequent. Ina and Mori are always busy. Kiara is living in another continent. Gura is a yes-girl but other girls have their own plans.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:10:56 2021 No.3500371 >putting an actual name in the name field >obnoxious reddit spacing >the image is likely from facebook It smells like SEAweed in here

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:12:46 2021 No.3500415 >>3499764 >Ame is not good at apex and although I do not know what her appeal is, she must have something unique to her or else people would not watch She know how to entertain people, the outfit reveal is proof of that

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:13:11 2021 No.3500423 Hopefully it will get the EN Minecraft server more busy so stuff like the tako-launch happens more often

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:13:40 2021 No.3500433 >>3499144 ENs have potential audience of like 2 billion JPs have potential audience of 50-70 million, maybe? ENs will be fine, don't you worry

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:14:23 2021 No.3500448 >>3499290 Lmao when did this happen?

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:14:55 2021 No.3500458

>>3500423
This. The minecraft streams only lasted three months or so and died in the new year. Yes, they occasionally play minecraft to this day, but its a once a month thing at best now.
I miss the crazy shit they pulled off in that time. Ame alone managed to build some insane things.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:15:38 2021 No.3500473 If Gen 2 ends up being really good, do you think Gura will finally start giving a shit about her job?

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:15:50 2021 No.3500480

People are serioisly underplaying just how talented EN gen 1 is and how much Cover knocked it out of the park with that audition process. Everybody always mentions singing, dancing, and drawing as talents, but being entertaining and being able to hold an audience is just as much a talent as the former. Every one of the EN girls maintains very strong viewer numbers even after the initial hype has died down, that is talent.

And before you say the brand is carrying them that was only true for the beginning. The people wayltching them 8 months after debut are very there for them.

Also, on the topic of the traditional talents listed above. Ina is the best artist in hololive by a long shot and Calli's music is the most successful music in hololive drawing the most views and engagement.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:17:03 2021 No.3500519 >>3499912 Disagree. Mori has talent for a lot things and can be very entertaining when ever she is in good mood like this whole week. >>3500035 I think Ame has tons of creative ideas but it seems to me that her ideas get shot down by management.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:17:24 2021 No.3500534 >>3499144 I believe this is the most shallow post I've ever seen trying to be serious

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:18:15 2021 No.3500558 >>3500480 Considering they followed it up with a solid ID2 group im pretty confidant in Cover putting together a great EN gen 2 as well

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:18:36 2021 No.3500568

>>3500035
For all the "Ame is so creative" posts we see she basically never does anything creative outside of special events. It's all standard gaming streams and superchat readings, plus the occasional watch along/ karaoke. It's a shame, she's totally capable of doing more creative things, so I wonder what's holding her back.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:19:07 2021 No.3500585

>>3500334
Marine's collab was not a guerrilla one. It was scheduled. All multi person collabs are at least scheduled a week ahead. Some even a month before. Suisei did a stream where she showed how she asked a bunch of girls for collabs. Only guerrilla ones are the ones they do in monhun where they just shout in discord and see who responds. Pekora did this and she waited 30mins. And did you not forget that guerrilla collab that gura did where everyone except for Kiara was there. Just the fact that they can do a group collab means it is possible. My whole point is that streaming content itself is not creative. It's always a fucking game. The only creative effort they did was the Christmas one and the Jackbox game which incidentally is the best "game" they have done together. They are not gamers so collabs should be at least an opportunity to show what else they can be good at. At least the Uno collab was decent because Kiara thought of ways to make it entertaining like the punishments but the baby shit was still unforgivable

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:21:25 2021 No.3500639

>>3500480
They won't find a better artist than Ina and "anime girl rapping and saying fuck" won't happen a second time.
Ina and Calli are safe.

The KFP is a cult and they will never leave Kiara. They'll probably even follow her when she graduates.
Kiara is fine.

Gura and Ame are the only ones that could get replaced if they find some more special people.
They are great streamers but there are many great streamers out there.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:21:36 2021 No.3500641 >>3500154 Deadbeats have a much higher percentage of working adults, allowing us to blow s on e extra paycheck money

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:22:31 2021 No.3500662 File: 18 KB, 500x500, bc62aa7e3f49497e676e1d20047b600d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3499144 Gee OP, will Phase 2 of Marvel movies oversaturate Phase 1? Think before you ask.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:23:29 2021 No.3500674 It's the other way around. Gen 2 has some massive shoes to fill, let's see who has enough balls to step up to the plate.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:24:12 2021 No.3500689

>>3500568
Anon said she might be getting shot down >>3500519

I remember her talking about sharing her frustrations that she wants to do more creative stuff which she shared to her manager. Manager said to not sweat it and just play games because that's essentially why they hired her. She was funny playing pokemon snap btw. She was gremlin trolly.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:24:20 2021 No.3500693 File: 59 KB, 810x572, 1616057536961.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3500448 https://files.catbox.moe/x7nz68.mp4 It was just a matter of time

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:25:14 2021 No.3500714 >>3499912 This, they only got by because of hololive, they were no ones aside from senzawa who's got popular because of meme songs

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:27:58 2021 No.3500775 >>3500154 the music industry (even a niece like Jrap) has a larger overall reach than just uwu anime girls but that also reduces the amount of hardcore fans

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:28:53 2021 No.3500801 >>3500480 All 4 en aside from gura is below 10k, i wouldnt call that strong

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:29:04 2021 No.3500805 >>3499487 wow, you just described 2/3 of Hololive what a unsuspected twist!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:31:13 2021 No.3500858 >>3500639 >"anime girl rapping and saying fuck" won't happen a second time Much less won't and more can't. If we get a second Mori, then we will know that Cover peaked and is just pandering.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:31:18 2021 No.3500861 >>3499144 oh stop crying for fuck's sakes holojp has 30+ girls and they're doing fine. it's almost as if people can watch multiple streamers

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:32:07 2021 No.3500878

>>3499774
None of those labels even get close to describing the appeal of the EN1 talents. They're extremely superficial, and if that was all they had going for them they would not each have a million subs (or close enough) and regularly pull 10k+ concurrents this late in the game. So there is plenty of room for an EN2 loli, gremlin, or sleep aid, because there's no way there will be an EN2 Gura, Ame, or Ina. If loli/gremlin/sleep aid is your level of understanding of EN1, then you clearly don't actually watch streams. So no, you didn't get the point.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:32:27 2021 No.3500888

>>3500585
What I mean is that the EN gals so far has only done full collabs on big events with some sort of announcement on their own projects. That's mostly the only occasion where they are required to show up together. The rest is depending on their own free time and schedule. So it's not that convenient for them to do frequent as it seems.
Gura had been waiting for months to play with her genmates. I don't think they have problem with being creative themselves. It's just that the situation is different for them compared to JP gals.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:32:57 2021 No.3500900

>>3500639
Anon. The argument that Gen2 will "steal" viewers is fucking hilarious. If you really think that the viewers is just like a bowl of water that has to be shared with everyone then you are thinking small. There's practically hundreds of millions of people watching Twitch girls and boys do stuff. It's all about spreading the hololive reach and attracting more new viewers.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:33:48 2021 No.3500934 >>3500693 Wow! Character development!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:34:58 2021 No.3500961 >>3500858 idk about that, the zoomer audience is a future market to expand to and with the large reach cover has they could be able to hire someone even more talented. (not to pull moir down, she is good, but the rap niche can offer so much more)

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:35:33 2021 No.3500975 >>3500714 That doesn't mean they aren't talented. Like with case of Mori J-rap filters even hardcore weeaboos a lot times so no wonder she wasn't all that popular.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:37:31 2021 No.3501034 >>3499912 >untalented Ina literally made a career off her art talent you fucking monkey.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:38:17 2021 No.3501050

>implying KFP cultists will drop Kiara
>implying tentacultists drop Ina
>implying deadbeats drop Mori for a new wigger rapper
i see Ame and Gura getting hurt the most by gen 2 which won't happen if you look at the JP holos and how previous gens weren't affected by new gens.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:38:31 2021 No.3501056 File: 189 KB, 463x453, 1600067713110.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3499144 >holoEN gen 1 >only one of them is native english speaker

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:38:43 2021 No.3501063

>>3500888
It doesn't have to be all five. And we know for a fact that they have done a variety of streams together like that Uno or the takamori or Ame with Ina. These are not special events. Ang again, they just did guerrilla collab on MC. There is opportunity to be creative. It's doesn't even have to be with all EN to be creative. That drawing song that Miko did only has Korone and Subaru. The rest were submissions done by other members offstream. F. A. M. S does collabs and they are only four.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:40:10 2021 No.3501103
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I'm excited for more EN girls because western girls are bitchy and toxic as fuck the more of them there are. They'll start getting possessive over each other and cliques will start forming.. These threads will be gold.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:42:50 2021 No.3501174 >>3501103 This anon gets it. EN needs more people regardless, the relationship between the members are seriously lacking. Just to put in perspective Miko has more potential amazing collab partners than EN has members.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:44:26 2021 No.3501214

>>3500801
Maybe for Hololive, but Vtubers in general would dream to average into the triple digits, let alone make it to thousands of viewers. People like Gura, Pekora and the like are the A-list celebrities of the community, so there's no need to set the bar so high. That they average in the thousands consistently is impressive and worth commendation.

t. Rosetai

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:44:52 2021 No.3501221 >>3500714 The purpose of a talent agency is to take people with potential but not much success and put the spotlight on them.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:49:07 2021 No.3501352 >>3501214 Aki is awesome. She gets a lot of SCs and she's quite active outside of Hololive. She's gonna be in the 1st Gen live concert too. She has a great base community. That's all that matters.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:50:10 2021 No.3501378 Gura has completely surpassed not only every single hololive member but literally all vtubers in just about every metric possible aside from SCs but sure cover will manage to somehow win the lottery twice and EN 2 will magically surpass her.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:51:26 2021 No.3501413

>>3500639
>The KFP is a cult and they will never leave Kiara. They'll probably even follow her when she graduates.
Most of her viewers are not KFP though, just like with everyone else its a (in her case rather large) minority surrounded by casual viewers. Its the loss of those casual viewers that this is about.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 14:52:40 2021 No.3501442 >>3501413 >gen 2 will make all the normie shitters fuck off good, the REAL fans will stay.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:53:12 2021 No.3501455

>>3501063
The MC collab was on golden week though. But yeah, I can see what you are saying. I just feel that currently they are prioritizing different things, everyone mention deadlines and stuffs rather than that. I do hope they experimenting more later. Many of them were good content creators before so I strongly doubt this part
> not that creative to even think of a stream like that.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:53:21 2021 No.3501461

>>3501378
>in just about every metric possible
Literally just subscribers and 'maybe' memberships (if that even matters considering how many predate that system or don't stream on youtube to begin with). And no, didn't surpass everyone in live views because 200k has been broken on BiliBili multiple times.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:57:52 2021 No.3501568

>>3500961
There is only so many times that you can repeat something before it becomes stale and is perceived as pandering and there was only one chance for the "ill mouthed rapper" archetype since that is niche enough in Japan to be novel and out of place enough to western perceptions of the anime industry to be acceptable... and Mori struck both points dead center. Before her, there was Coco as the "delinquent foreigner" which was highly successful, so all they needed was someone that could actually sing on top of that.

Adding yet another person that raps and says "fuck" is the equivalent of an overused Reddit tier meme.

Anonymous Sun May 9 14:58:33 2021 No.3501583

>>3501461
>didn't surpass everyone in live views because 200k has been broken on BiliBili multiple times.
Considering no one not even niji shitters ever bring up bilibli and that anyone talking about the record before literally only ever mentions miko's comeback stream and Niji's baseball one I think you're full of shit

Anonymous Sun May 9 15:00:32 2021 No.3501637

>>3501461
> orange vs apple
Yeah, seems about right.
You can check on holostats and see that Gura and Mori are the only ones that CNs still subscribe over the last 30 days even though their channels have basically nothing.
CNs love EN especially Gura, you cant never be so wrong like this. But yeah.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:03:15 2021 No.3501700 >>3501461 >>3501583 bilibili doesn't even track viewership publicly, it uses a bullshit activity score metric which is basically whatever they want it to be

Anonymous Sun May 9 15:04:05 2021 No.3501723

In my opinion, EN1 will benefit from EN2. Or as anon put it a few weeks back in a thread similar to this one: "A rising tide lifts all ships."

After all, with EN2, we will/might have the following:

>more spontaneous collab opportunities in Minecraft, which has, for better or for worse become a staple for all of Hololive
>more potential collab pairings
>potential for bigger collabs
>potential for new ships (I dislike shipping unless it started and occurs naturally, but ships are a huge draw nonetheless)
>more people with more talents (who knows, maybe we'll get a skilled video editor, animator or voice actor in EN2, who might each be able to produce yet-to-be-fathomed content or even work together on big projects)

Feel free to add onto this list if you agree with me.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:04:17 2021 No.3501729 >>3501461 >BiliBili Anon, those numbers will forever be put into question due to their retarded "view booster" feature, so let's not even discuss the matter on that end.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:05:20 2021 No.3501761 >>3499402 Fuck no. I aint up for another annoying squeky voice shit

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:05:40 2021 No.3501774 >>3499222 I HOPE gura loses the number 1 spot to an attention whore that WANTS IT, for her sake. I doubt it'll happen.

Anonymous Sun May 9 15:06:02 2021 No.3501782

>>3501413
She has the lowest viewership anyways yet is among the highest donations constantly.
Kiara is probably the least affected by the loss of grey names - outside of getting fewer sponsorship deals.
Hell, the KFP might spend even more on her if her numbers drop, they are crazy.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:06:42 2021 No.3501799 >>3500801 Your perception is warped from seeing the big numbers. Any streamer, vtuber or not, would love to stream to an audience of 6-9k every stream. Those are insanily strong numbers outside of the very tippy top of streaming superstars.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:07:26 2021 No.3501812 >>3501378 A lot of JP holos average more viewers than Gura. Pekora especially is nearly impossible to dislodge from the top, and for a good reason. Anything she touches is entertainment gold.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:08:33 2021 No.3501826 >>3499402 Can't happen. You might as well say nyanners for HoloEN2. That's not to say I don't like lily, she's just too established and opens the door to twitchthots by association.

Anonymous Sun May 9 15:10:17 2021 No.3501879

On the topic of traditional talents. Freaking Kiara used to be an actual idol so why does she insist on using her character voice when she sings? I'm sure she would sound a lot better if she used her regular singing voice. Even freaking Miko has enough sense to drop the baby voice when she sings and she sounds pretty damn good when she does so.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:12:20 2021 No.3501938 >>3499144 no nigga, you are retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:13:03 2021 No.3501953 >>3501879 Probably so she doesn't get recognized. Noel for example got recognized by her singing voice. Kiara already has her ex-coworkers snooping around her - and they knew of her weeb ways.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:13:54 2021 No.3501980 >>3501879 This is as close as a "true" voice she's gonna have and it's her worst performing cover/song. I like her cover though. https://youtu.be/98Yx9TuE09A

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:15:56 2021 No.3502048 >>3501953 I mean, anyone who looks around for 10 minutes can figure out everything about her roommate.Not doing a very good job at the whole hiding when her patreon was still active until last month.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:18:16 2021 No.3502114 >>3501953 Not really. She has explained in her Q&A stream 2hr19mins that she wanted to be a cute streamer or something. Thus the voice. https://youtu.be/q7WWwEnMHFs Which astounds me because voice is such a stacy. It can't be cute at all.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:18:39 2021 No.3502129 >>3501812 Different audience demographics. It's not suitable to compare.

Anonymous Sun May 9 15:19:45 2021 No.3502152

>>3501812
>A lot of JP holos
Gura ranked 4th in average views last month and this is after her "decline". That is not "a lot" of holos. She has been very consistant and any sort of big event that draws the casuals back to her will put her right up there to competing with Pekora again.

Anonymous Sun May 9 15:24:17 2021 No.3502301

>>3502152
It's not a competition though. Likw anon said. Different demo and market. Pekora hits a blend of majority JP and minority EN. Gura hits majority EN and minority JP at different timeslots. You can only make a good comparison if you ask them to play the same game at the same time for same viewers and let them choose who they will watch for that time period. But we all know that majority will probably want to either be playing together in that timeslot rather than separate, otherwise, they will just open two tabs for both girls if that was the case.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:27:04 2021 No.3502401 >>3501980 >and it's her worst performing cover/song Which is more due to the nature of it meaning she didn't really shill it a lot or try to advertise it. I would be surprised if a lot of people thougt it was actually a bad cover.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:38:17 2021 No.3502728 >>3502129 I don't think Pekora and Gura have that much different demographics, it's just that Pekora speaks only jp and her audience is more "focused" on her because she streams at Japan hours

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:45:28 2021 No.3502893 >>3502728 Language is, quite literally a demographic category. It's not just about age, gender and level of IQ.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 15:59:21 2021 No.3503293 Ame has a bunch of gachikois, she'll be fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 16:03:48 2021 No.3503480 >>3502893 wrong, language and iq are literally the same demographic. the spanish audience and the 80 iq audience are literally the same demographic

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 16:06:35 2021 No.3503579 >>3499144 what a garbage thread, kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 16:07:47 2021 No.3503611 Here's your Gen2. Enjoy. https://files.catbox.moe/ili4mj.mp4

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 16:58:13 2021 No.3505204 >>3499402 >lilypichu >2 million + Twitch followers >11,000+ average viewers >Making a shit ton of money on her own >Would have to move platforms, rebrand herself, and give up money to HL I sincerely doubt Hololive could offer her anything.

Anonymous Sun May 9 17:14:33 2021 No.3505704

>>3499144
Considering we know literally nothing about Gen 2 this is the most idle of speculation. Time zones will probably be the biggest factor DESU since none of Gen 1 really compete with each other.

>>3500693
>F-bomb F-bomb F-bomb
>Nigger
>Mumble mumble giberish gibberish
Kawaii seiso idol desu.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 17:17:12 2021 No.3505782 >>3501056 One? I thought Gura, Ame and Calli were native English speakers

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 17:23:44 2021 No.3505977 File: 135 KB, 247x329, 1620510711305.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >3499144 not even (You)

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 17:43:16 2021 No.3506556 >>3499971 >>3500007 >>3501103 would be nice >>3503480 we are counting aave as a seperate language now?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 17:45:54 2021 No.3506623 >>3499352 Dont bring Kanata into this

Anonymous Sun May 9 17:53:41 2021 No.3506835

>>3499144
Mori will stay solid for music. Ina will stay for artistry (I doubt they can sign anyone better than her).
Gura and Ame is definitely shaky if they can get more crude humor personality that delivers, but I doubt they'll try to get someone like Ollie or Vshojocore humor.
If they do, the plus side would be both Gura and Ame will be cleansed from shitty fanbase.
Kiara has loyal and strong fanbase, just like Towa and Luna. They'll stay and I'm sure she's fine no matter what is your opinion of her.

Moving forward, the growth now lies on further integration with JP talents which the old fanbase will look forward to. Newcomers just want clipshit, baiting reactions and FOMO on catchphrases before transitioning into actually tuning into streams. And there is another factor of timezone diversity, which Hololive desperately needs right now.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 17:56:45 2021 No.3506932 File: 235 KB, 240x320, 1490996160013.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3500693 That slightly panicked screeching she does has such incredible Aqua energy.

Anonymous Sun May 9 17:57:24 2021 No.3506949

>>3501214
>>3501799

One thing a lot of people seem to be overlooking is that vtubing is still very much a niche in regards to western streaming audiences, whereas it's a lot more established in Japan.

While the argument can definitely be made that HoloEN has access to a bigger market compared to HoloJP, the fact that vtubing also isn't nearly as mainstream as it is in Japan is effectively working against them at the same time - for every potential new viewer who'll see a vtuber clip and thinks "hey, that looks interesting", there's one who'll take one look at the anime girl avatar they're using and immediately write them off because "anime bad" is a mindset that's prevalent in large swathes of the western streaming market.

Anonymous Sun May 9 18:03:27 2021 No.3507139

Kiara is vulnerable if there's someone else who streams in her timeslot and/or speaks Japanese well, but she has a loyal core audience that will stay with her.

Mori tend to stream in JP primetime or really late at night, it's a very unattractive spot for someone for Gen 2 to stream in, don't see her getting overlapped unless they hire another person actually in Japan. Even then, Mori's livestream numbers don't really matter much to her success and role within Hololive.

Ina could have a few K shaved off her average if there's an EU streamer that overlaps her, basically the effect you see when Kiara streams at the same time, or when Ina streams into Ame's hours and loses viewers to her.

Ame is probably the most vulnerable, she's a variety streamer with no niche and streams at a very lucrative time that'll probably get overlapped by 1 or more of the Gen 2, and she doesn't have the extra viewers to lose like Gura does.

Gura's in the same boat as Ame but in an even better timeslot, but she has crazy name brand recognition among casual fans and a big cushion to where she could lose some viewers and still easily be #1.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 18:08:31 2021 No.3507311 >>3499144 HoloEN Gen1 is over if HoloEN Gen2 ends up like HoloJP Gen3, a powerhouse.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 18:23:12 2021 No.3507821 They just have to come up with better content to compete, I don't see a problem here

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 18:26:55 2021 No.3507961 >>3499504 Speaking multiple languages isn't a talent. Half the world has that skill.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 18:30:01 2021 No.3508061 >>3507961 2 languages? Sure. 3+? Not so much.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 18:34:22 2021 No.3508225 >>3508061 Technically she knows Korean but has she ever even spoke it on stream?

Anonymous Sun May 9 18:51:47 2021 No.3508888

>>3499144
>Gura doesnt many talents and mostly is a meme gremlin as well. Her cuteness is what’s getting her by, and her humor.
So a meme gremlin that’s cute, sings well, and funny. That’s is not career killing anon. It’s why she’s successful. She just broke a record for fucks sake.
>Any other cute loli introduced in Gen2 will be the death of Gura
You mean like Anya? Loli without any ability to entertain is useless. It would be different if you said Gura wouldn’t do as well, but still remain. If she was removed than almost all of Hololive wouldn’t be good enough to stay either.

The ones at risk at the ones with under 10k live viewers, like Kiara and Ame. Ina should survive, and Calli and Gura will definitely survive. Can’t we all just be honest about all this.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:02:06 2021 No.3509227 >>3507961 Speaking japanese in a japan-oriented platform is a talent, though

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:02:14 2021 No.3509234 >>3507961 Speaking Japanese is a talent since it's rather difficult to learn for English speakers and very useful for being employed by a Japanese vtubing company. Knowing like..Estonian and English or whatever isn't particularly useful.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:06:06 2021 No.3509378 >>3507961 Kiara unironically did her reps. You can't say the same for 99% of the other posters on this board.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:06:25 2021 No.3509389 File: 75 KB, 909x768, Mori.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3499144 >Calli is just some other ara ara personality Cookie Cutterchaama wrong timeline

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:06:40 2021 No.3509396 >>3507961 Japanese is hard as fuck, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:09:11 2021 No.3509476 >>3499581 Hell no, that would be gross

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:09:14 2021 No.3509484 >>3499542 >four girls and a man This isn’t Vshojo, anon..

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:09:37 2021 No.3509493 File: 111 KB, 236x224, 1612797685668.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Good. My oshi will be happy. She doesn't like being this successful, and when someone overtakes her, she'll much happier being 2nd or 3rd or whatever place.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:11:14 2021 No.3509554 Hot take: Everything is gonna be fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:13:56 2021 No.3509651 >>3507961 Lots of non EOPs speak a good bit of English, but not remotely to Kiaras level of fluency. And thats not even mentioning Japanese as well

Anonymous Sun May 9 19:17:39 2021 No.3509779

>>3507139
Ame is not a variety streamer. The most shit she has done is the little skits she does on her super chat readings. She's pretty much the "gamer" but doesn't really game but just rages and faps around. Gura has played better AAA games than her. Ina has played more insightful games than her. She has no niche because she faps around a lot. A variety streamer is someone like Polka or Subaru or Marine.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:18:26 2021 No.3509801 File: 142 KB, 600x600, cultistchan02.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3499222 HWEE CAPTOORD EET FOR KAY-OHS!!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:19:25 2021 No.3509853 >>3499346 true, we need someone who has the creativity and improv of Miko who can organize interesting events. Ame is creative, but only as far as her own streams go, she doesnt quite have that organizational ability.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:20:06 2021 No.3509876 >>3509779 I thought a variety streamer is just someone who doesn't have a main game? Like Asmongold is a WoW streamer even if he occasionally streams other games, but Ame is not associated with any particular game.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:20:41 2021 No.3509897 >>3509779 >The most shit she has done is the little skits she does on her super chat readings She's done a ton of stuff for special events (the parade, the costume reveal, her new years countdown)

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:24:43 2021 No.3510029 >>3499497 based purely on results, there is no universe where EN1 is garbage. Its very successful.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:27:47 2021 No.3510139 >>3509897 Those are two. 5 months apart. 5 months of fapping about doing test streams or whatever. She's not a variety streamer.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:30:59 2021 No.3510254 >>3499562 depends if lilypichu is depressed and wants to get away from her persona. Gura did, does lily?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:32:36 2021 No.3510312 >>3510139 >Those are two 3. She also had stuff like the Amelias concoction stream >She's not a variety streamer Could you define variety streamer? Because you seem to be using a definition i've never seen anyone use before

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:34:47 2021 No.3510380 >>3508061 Damn, guess I'm talented

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:40:32 2021 No.3510609 >>3499852 I think they learned from that.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:41:43 2021 No.3510657 >>3499435 She's more the cool friend who talks to the quiet person playing with the dog at the party

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:42:56 2021 No.3510695 >>3499887 Actual Japanese have mentioned quite a bit how overpowered the basic stats of HoloEN are. Given how much was riding on them breaking into the market, its no surprise that they went all out.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:43:47 2021 No.3510728 >>3499569 4 girls and one soon to be statistic

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:44:48 2021 No.3510766 >>3499542 No way Japan doesn't care about inclusion

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:45:43 2021 No.3510800 >>3510766 There's already been a trans person in hololive anyway

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:46:50 2021 No.3510838 >>3500558 Reine's solid, Ollie has potential but she's completely unstable and Anya was basically a miss. They're still probably better than ID1 but it's a mixed bag.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:47:00 2021 No.3510847 >>3499751 Ollie really should have waited and applied for en2

Anonymous Sun May 9 19:47:23 2021 No.3510857

>>3510312
Variety streaming is basically what they do apart from gaming and zatsudans. It's either collaborative "game" shows like the holo sport fest, talk shows like Holotalk, competitions like the Mio's haiku or Miko's Holo sports fest, 1hr special skits like the Hosts Call-in treams. Even Polka's 10min weekly specials is Variety content. Those are variety streams. What Amelia does is not variety streamer. She's more like streamer that plays games that would have very occasionally do variety specials. She has done 2. The new year and the Halloween. That's it.

Anonymous Sun May 9 19:49:55 2021 No.3510923

>>3505782
Anon's being dumb or trolling. Ame, Calli and Gura are obviously native English speakers. You could even call Ina a native English speaker since she probably spoke both English and Korean growing up. English is Kiara's third language so she's the only one whose not.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:50:04 2021 No.3510927 >>3499780 But think more friends for our girls

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:50:14 2021 No.3510934 >>3500689 sounds like Jenma just doesn't want to work to vet what Ame does. She should be berated

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:50:22 2021 No.3510942 >>3509876 Apex is her main game but there's plenty of weeks she doesn't even play it, so it would be a stretch to call her an Apex streamer.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:51:22 2021 No.3510988 >>3506623 I think he mean Uto....

Anonymous Sun May 9 19:51:51 2021 No.3510995

>>3510857
Funny enough, Kiara has done more variety streams because of Holotalk compared to Ame but noone will tag her as a variety streamer. She's pretty much a light gamer that does long ass zatsudans afterwards through SC readings. People stay for the SC readings. Much like how Watame is for JP.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:53:02 2021 No.3511034 >>3500025 Except she's the biggest social retard of the lot

Anonymous Sun May 9 19:57:29 2021 No.3511186

>>3509876
Variety is a form of content mainly focused featuring content you see in variety shows or something of the sort. If you play games and that is what you stream most of the time then you are a gaming channel. If you stream more fps games compared to any type then you are the fps gaming streamer... And so on and so forth.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:57:29 2021 No.3511187 >>3499571 he will NOT watch the streams, he will NOT take his meds.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:57:31 2021 No.3511190 >>3500448 >https://streamable.com/a9ppbj

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:59:10 2021 No.3511242 Still don't get how Kiara could/can do collabs, both IRL and in ther interview format with JP and ID, but everyone else is encouraged not to How Calli literally lives in JP but does 0 collabs with JP girls

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 20:00:43 2021 No.3511301 >>3511034 she's actually not. if you did your reps you'd realize she was quite the world traveler and speaks at least 3 languages and has connections in every noteworthy fields. She's 1 of maybe 5 extroverts total, in a company of introverts.

Anonymous Sun May 9 20:05:33 2021 No.3511526

>>3511301
Kiara's clearly the most extroverted out of the 5 EN girls but that doesn't mean she's the most socially competent, and she really isn't. She's had a huge problem not being able to deal with any perceived "dead air" and constantly talked over her genmates or made constant noises during group collabs. It's only recently that she's gotten better and not constantly interrupting people.

Anonymous Sun May 9 20:06:33 2021 No.3511559

>>3511301
I think what anon means is that Kiara doesn't know how to read the room. You know, that she's abrasive. Too self-centered or something. I think she's fine, she just needs to practice in landing her jokes or remarks in a group setting. She's getting a hang of it. Somewhat.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 20:11:48 2021 No.3511755 >>3501461 only zhangs care about bilibili, zhang.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 20:12:55 2021 No.3511790 >>3500473 She actively nerfs herself and still at the top. Do you think she will be not happy that someone else finally takes over her place?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 20:16:32 2021 No.3511918 >another garbage EN anti thread

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 20:17:52 2021 No.3511983 >>3499581 I hope you get AIDs and die

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 20:19:14 2021 No.3512031 >>3499144 How many of the Vshojo proxy girls do you think are doing application round 2?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 20:22:41 2021 No.3512159 >>3511190 based as fuck, like her even more now

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 20:24:16 2021 No.3512211 >>3500693 based chicken

Anonymous Sun May 9 20:25:04 2021 No.3512233

I don't know if people here are retarded or just want to see how much can troll Cumkeks

Gura is easily in the top percentage of Holotalents, she's unlikely to be "easily replaceable" even if they get fucking Nyanners into HoloEN.

Kiara, Ame and Ina are more likely to be btfo by Gen 2, and they still have a long ways to go to even touch Gura or Calli

Anonymous Sun May 9 20:32:10 2021 No.3512499

>>3499764
>>Kiaras shit voice is annoying and she begs for attention basically. Basic humor and singing is bad. Gen2 will take all of her viewers away.
>Why? There are already many alternatives to Kiara and her viewers still stay with her. The worst thing that could happen to the annoying orange is if a younter, even more energetic version of herself shows up.

This would actually be very interesting, I'd like to see them both colab with third ara ara person and fight about who will be the center of attention the whole stream

Anonymous Sun May 9 20:46:33 2021 No.3512998

>>3512499
Most of the people that are continuing to watch Kiara have already "invested" in her; they've already fallen to the Sunken Cost Fallacy.

They supported Kiara early on in her career thinking they will be able to make her one of the bigger, if not biggest, Hololive Talents (they threw money at her for new computer, new apartment, when she was sad, etc)

They get frustrated whenever they see that Kiara is still the lowest EN in terms of viewers and subs and think that if they keep throwing money at her, she'll finally get her one big break that'll blow away all the competition

KFP need to understand that Kiara sucks as an entertainer and no amount of money they donate is going to change that

Anonymous Sun May 9 20:46:53 2021 No.3513011
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>>3512233
>even if they get fucking Nyanners into HoloEN.
>even if they get a rabid anti otaku grifter into Hololive
Pls don't say that, not even as a joke or a hypothetical
People who don't separate 2D from 3D deserve nothing but bad things

Anonymous Sun May 9 20:54:15 2021 No.3513293

>>3512233
>they get fucking Nyanners into HoloEN
I know it was used as an exaggerative example, but Yagoo wouldn't aim for Melody or Nyanners, they're too integral to Vshojo ergo too expensive, also they carry way too much retard weight that wouldn't translate well for the JP market
If Yagoo wants to poach the VShojo crop, Ironmouse is probably the only good pickings, as Veibae is too gangsta themed raunchy and probably would stress ENMa to breaking.
He should, or is, aiming at Murmaider, Haruka, Momo, Bao, Snuffy, and/or that Pandabear girl.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 20:54:38 2021 No.3513312 >>3499784 It's probably just to not piss off their Indo viewers I guess, doesn't make sense since it seems like they have more EN fans than anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:22:35 2021 No.3514471 Who would have thought that a bait thread would be this full of bad takes

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:26:28 2021 No.3514621 File: 90 KB, 415x1013, 1620596908244.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3499144 >How bad is EN Gen2 going to effect EN Gen1? Gen 2 doesn't have to do shit when Gen 1 is doing a fine job fucking up on their own

Anonymous Sun May 9 21:27:55 2021 No.3514667

>>3509493
I'd rather have Gura be the most popular Holo than for the HoloEN fanbase to become just like the genshin twitter fandom
It would be an overall net decrease in happiness, especially Gura's, if she wasn't the face of HoloEN
I've seen Gura immediately filter all the prospecting retards who want to shit everything up

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:28:49 2021 No.3514695 >>3514667 I don't think gura herself wants to be the most popular holo. I think she picked a bland outfit with no accessories to blend into the background more

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:30:36 2021 No.3514746 >>3514695 >I don't think gura herself wants to be the most popular holo this is true

Anonymous Sun May 9 21:35:55 2021 No.3514940
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>>3514695
Well it's either Gura remain as the face of Hololive, or Hololive fanbase becomes the Redditor/Discord SJW shithole that everyone despises, especially what HER despised. Gura is really doing a good job just existing as the most popular and that's why I love her the most despite her not being my oshi. She's like a non-stop constant cunnypost.

Anonymous Sun May 9 21:41:08 2021 No.3515165

>>3514621
Because Anon-chama is a faggot

Gen 3
Gen 2
Gamers
EN
Gen 5
Gen 2
Gen 0
Gen 1

Gen 3 being 1st isn't surprising

Gen 2 is kinda carried by Ayame having
less streams with high volume of viewers which screws up averages, which even carried Choco's pitiful average viewers

Gamers have nice averages across the park

EN isn't doing bad per say; they're pretty much average, with the bottom 2 dragging the whole team down

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:42:14 2021 No.3515205 File: 6 KB, 474x266, 1620610934742.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3514940 >her not being my oshi

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:43:08 2021 No.3515239 Actually, I'm kinda surprised that Mel has more viewers than Aki

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:44:43 2021 No.3515328 >>3515165 >bottom 2 >2 Ame...

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:45:04 2021 No.3515349 >>3499144 >Gura doesnt many talents and mostly is a meme gremlin as well. Her cuteness is what’s getting her by, and her humor. Any other cute loli introduced in Gen2 will be the death of Gura imagine being this ignorant and delusional

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:46:28 2021 No.3515439 >>3515328 Kinda suprised with Amelia dropping off I remember she used to have the 10k-ish viewers average

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:48:18 2021 No.3515514 >>3510800 crossdressing gay men who identify as men aren't trans dumbass

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:57:29 2021 No.3515910 >>3514621 >Marine and Pekora doing heavy lifting Sausage, Senchou toe Shachou!

Anonymous Sun May 9 22:13:27 2021 No.3516856

>>3515165
Gen 2 is not actually saved by Ayame. Because Gen2 was always great as far as numbers goes. She is on par with Shion. Choco is the lowest and Aqua/Subaru are top. Aqua at peak consistent streams beat everyone by viewership and SCs. Subaru tops as far as viewership. Her SCs is not that far off too. Shion before when she was consistent gets better numbers than Ayame. Now they're just comparably the same.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 22:24:04 2021 No.3517524 >>3514621 >Those Towa numbers Christ, letting a man speak for 10 seconds is a death sentence in JP land

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 22:27:13 2021 No.3517726 File: 154 KB, 242x318, whatsdoing2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 22:48:14 2021 No.3518641 >>3514621 real talk though how come the super boring one gets higher numbers than even calli?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 22:49:32 2021 No.3518681 >>3517524 I mean, in the end it's alright. Like consistent 4 digits is a lot in the streaming landscape, so even tho some seem lacking compared to some of their Hololive peers, in the bigger scheme of things they all doing well.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 22:50:09 2021 No.3518726 >>3509651 >>3509378 Kiara's English makes me sick. Her accent is incredibly irritating and so is her nails-on-chalkboard voice.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 22:50:46 2021 No.3518765 >>3518641 Consistently cute and chill. You don't need to pay attention to it as well, you can enjoy while doing something else, even studying or trying to sleep.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 22:51:39 2021 No.3518801 >>3499222 >Calli losing her Deadbeats Unlikely >Ame and Gura losing fans Possibly, especially some of their less loyal fans.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 22:52:57 2021 No.3518844 Hopefully they learned from their mistakes with Gen 1.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 22:58:26 2021 No.3519107 >>3499402 lmao you're retarded Lily is too successful of a streamer to downgrade herself to hololive

Anonymous Sun May 9 23:01:49 2021 No.3519236

>>3518641
Because it turns out just being consistently calm and pleasant is what gets the older and female audience, which is substantial.
Takos tend to skew older and closer to a 50:50 gender ratio, it's why Ina, despite being niche, has a decent audience.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:02:52 2021 No.3519281 >>3499144 so far https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKxyLmbOc0Q this girl and +4. What about an apex or fps autist?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:06:01 2021 No.3519399 >>3499376 OP is a fag, dont bump the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:06:11 2021 No.3519406 >>3519281 Is that a vtuber cover with 94 million views? No Hololive or Nijisanji song will ever get even close to a number like that.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:10:06 2021 No.3519580 >>3510695 >overpowered what do they mean by that?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:11:44 2021 No.3519631 >>3505782 Ina is native, you can just tell she was born outside of the US or in a heavy asian speaking family.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:14:17 2021 No.3519714 >>3519406 ye. her last stream before hiatus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOIGvsamPog either shes a vsinger or nijien debuting this week.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:14:48 2021 No.3519729 >>3506835 >Mori will stay solid for music Yes but if the schizo theory that they will sign namirin holds true she might have some competition.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:16:00 2021 No.3519767 >>3519281 My favourite of hers is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPSQ23NRED8 because I'm a fuckin, pedophile i guess

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:17:43 2021 No.3519831 >>3499144 namefagchama...

Anonymous Sun May 9 23:19:56 2021 No.3519889
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>>3512998
To say that Kiara sucks as an entertainer would be saying that over 955k people have fallen to this fallacy. Shes still a huge chunk bigger than some of the JP girls. Shes not going anywhere, no matter how bad this retarded board hates her.

Anonymous Sun May 9 23:24:42 2021 No.3520056

>>3519889
Comparing sub numbers is ultimately meaningless because JP has the language barrier. That's my Hybrid Theory as to why Botan is doing so well vs everyone else, she is better at playing more language groups than the rest of her gen, although Nene will gap her eventually if she starts stringing cohesive English sentences together with any regularity.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:26:05 2021 No.3520100 >>3519889 Plus the fact that she was fairly successful before hololive and already had a group of fans

Anonymous Sun May 9 23:29:47 2021 No.3520218

>>3499144
Kiara and Ina are probably going to be the least impacted, since KFP and Takodachi are loyal to fault. The final yab could happen and you'd still have Octopi and Chickens showing up to watch their oshi stream among the rubble.

Gura, Mori and Amelia are the ones most likely to Haemorrhage viewers, in that order. Mori especially if some one comes around next gen who can GFE to an even comparable degree to her, or worse yet some one who can do more than pass as a tough alt girl.

The secret victims here though are the ID's. unless one of the gen 2's takes special interest in them for whatever reason, I don't see any one bar Reine (for similar reasons to Ina and Kiara) not losing at least a decent chunk of their regulars.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:40:45 2021 No.3520633 >>3519406 I wouldn't call it a vtuber cover just because this was made back when vtubers weren't a thing. But is it a damn good thing on your resume.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:44:34 2021 No.3520784 File: 12 KB, 445x172, 698346378468934634.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this new?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:50:08 2021 No.3521053 >>3513293 Out of all of vshoujo, froot would most likely leave to join

Anonymous Mon May 10 00:25:27 2021 No.3522808

>>3499144
Takodachis will likely stay. I first watched Ina for the comfy vibes, but now I genuinely find her conversation topics interesting and love her personality.

KFP would probably die for Kiara, so no issues there.

Calli will keep the wageslaves and musicfags unless there's an upgraded version of her in EN2.

Gura is still the most popular of her gen. Unless Cover recruits someone of a similar background and skillset, I don't see her declining too much.

Ame already lost viewers to her cousin a few months ago. I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen again with EN2 if Cover recruits someone who can actually play games well. She's probably the only one I'd be worried about.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 00:34:14 2021 No.3523132 >>3522808 >Ame To be honest even the EN equivalent of Korone/Okayu came along, Ame would still have her goslings who only watch her for the GFE

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 00:47:39 2021 No.3523596 Now that the waters have been tested I guarantee the next gen is going to be even better.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 00:48:27 2021 No.3523638 >>3510923 >>3505782 Gura is clearly not native, too many comprehension and pronunciation mistakes.

Anonymous Mon May 10 01:02:21 2021 No.3524290
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>>3499144
>I believe Gen2 will over saturate Gen1.
The V Tuber market has been saturated since the Vtweeter wave of late 2020. As for how it will affect it, possibly not much, since if we go off JPs gens while the new gen will initially get a giant rocket push that hype will die down and itll be up to the talents themsevles to pull the weight. Miko is a 0th gen tuber and she still pulls in as many if not more views than most of her successors. Same with Pekora, Korone, etc. So unless this new group of EN is somehow not only head and shoulders above in terms of talent, but also entertainment value to the point where the old gen seems useless, no one has to worry.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 01:05:04 2021 No.3524395 >>3523638 No anon, thats just her being a mental midget (and years of alcohol and med abuse) . She is confirmed to be 100% full American.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 01:12:23 2021 No.3524771 >>3520056 super nenechi power is growing chat at ~11:45pm est had a ton of english speakers whenever she would try an english sentence

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 02:07:50 2021 No.3526980 >>3523132 Ame shouldn't be worried about a Korone or Okayu. She should be worried about someone like Aqua, Botan or Luna.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 02:15:13 2021 No.3527204 >>3506623 >Dont bring Kanata into this Anon what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 02:34:02 2021 No.3527708 >>3524290 The new gen is pretty much expected to be the best in term of talent. Cover can pretty much pick and choose what they want.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 02:42:21 2021 No.3527906 >>3511301 I'm the anon the other 2 described what I ment

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 02:42:25 2021 No.3527910 >>3518641 Ina is decent at video games and has btter game taste

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 02:44:01 2021 No.3527938 >>3518641 Callie streams during jp primetime

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 02:45:00 2021 No.3527954 >>3499542 I doubt they'd introduce a vtuber for them to die so soon

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 02:46:36 2021 No.3527980 >>3499542 pls cover don't actually hire gayshit that applied 'for the lolz'

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 02:47:24 2021 No.3527996 >>3524290 >The V Tuber market has been saturated since the Vtweeter wave of late 2020 A bunch of social justice bullies on Twitter that never stream aren't affecting the actual market because they don't take up actual viewers.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 02:48:25 2021 No.3528020 >>3518844 Which are?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 02:58:50 2021 No.3528249 >>3528020 hiring Kiara

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 03:09:35 2021 No.3528456 >>3499989 >thinking subs are an actual metric for talent kekw

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 03:14:12 2021 No.3528532 I'm thinking EN2 is going to have maybe 2-3 euros, then Kiara will have some people in a better timezone to actively collab with.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 03:47:57 2021 No.3529099 File: 32 KB, 271x403, 1619556144596.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3499562

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 03:48:09 2021 No.3529102 >>3528532 Its possible, there's plenty of EU candidates who have a decent shot of getting in like Kanizawa Kani, eliemonty, and ky0resu.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 03:52:11 2021 No.3529161 >>3500035 Kiara and Ina did that Arknights waifu tier stream once, I think that was the only "unique" Collab so far from EN

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 04:00:36 2021 No.3529292 >>3515439 I must admit I am membered to Ame since day 1 but didn't watch a live stream for 2 months now. Between working/ watching other holos/ doing my own thing I kind of totaly forgot about her.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 04:02:10 2021 No.3529311 >>3500035 >e they are not that creative to even think of a stream like that. There is a creative deficiency in EN for sure but to be fair a lack of creativity is a constant problem with the Vtubing sphere as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 04:04:03 2021 No.3529336 Anyone who thinks LilyPichu has any chance of being a holo is actually retarded. Not because she wouldn't make the cut but because she wouldn't want to. She has small VA career, music, streamer house, and well established audience.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 04:05:03 2021 No.3529348 >>3529102 Imagine kyoresu collabing with Gura

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 04:07:15 2021 No.3529379 Can EN ever be great, or are they genetically deficient, because western culture is never creative?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 04:10:13 2021 No.3529418 >>3529348 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E9tunNKJF4 Kyoresu is heading to that point and I'm really betting on her being in EN 2 already

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 04:35:40 2021 No.3529754 File: 925 KB, 1164x882, ky0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3529348 you just know ky0resu have a cunny design if she got into en2

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 04:37:51 2021 No.3529786 Bait thread with 300 replies... Pain tako...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 04:54:24 2021 No.3530053 >>3529786 all gura threads are bait threads. stfu and post cute shorts, toris or takos.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 06:21:57 2021 No.3531205 >>3499402 Wouldn't be that bad desu Especially since she browses /cgl/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 06:33:25 2021 No.3531397 >>3500714 As opposed to who exactly? like 80% of JP holos were similarly nothing before.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 06:34:06 2021 No.3531414 >>3501879 >Freaking Kiara used to be an actual idol If she had got anywhere with that then there wouldn't be a Kiara.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 07:31:03 2021 No.3532791 >>3501953 literally everyone who knows who Kiara is knows who her roommate is

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 07:56:06 2021 No.3533534 >>3508061 German, English and Japanese you stupid cunt

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 08:05:22 2021 No.3533863 >>3499144 Nice description of the girls, bet you know Jackshit about them except what you know from clips. Know any words other than "gremlin"?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 08:09:25 2021 No.3534031 I wonder if a homostars EN would ever include a rapper, as even almost all youtube rappers are better than calli on a technical perspective. It'd be funny to see the mental gymnastics.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 08:41:56 2021 No.3534926 >>3500693 wtf I love Kiara now

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 08:42:33 2021 No.3534941 >>3499144 Enough to make orange bird seethe

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 08:43:45 2021 No.3534965 >>3499144 >Calli is just some other ara ara personality Literally not >a great creative singer though lol

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 09:21:29 2021 No.3536015 >>3533863 kremlin

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 09:22:52 2021 No.3536062 >>3528456 They're talented at getting fags like you butthurt over their success.

Anonymous Mon May 10 09:47:38 2021 No.3536869

>>3519580
That the EN girls actually have way more talent than the JP ones. There's a handful that genuinely are talented, and they're usually some of the lowest sub count holos. Of all the JPs with 1 million subs...

Korone: Just plays old games for a really long time. Not a talent.
Pekora: Plays minecraft and is retarded. Not a talent
Fubuki: Is cute. Not a talent.
Marine: Is an actually talented artist, but is mostly famous for being horny, which isn't a talent
Aqua: Is autistic. Not a talent
Rushia: Is cute and screams a lot. Not a talent.
Coco: Bilingual, which is a talent. Uses it exclusively to read Reddit posts, so it's wasted.
Haato: Schizo shitposts with barely understandable engrish, not a talent
Noel: Has fat tits. Not a talent
Okayu: Has a quiet voice. Not a talent
Miko: Said the N word once. Not a talent

So basically, the only ones who actually have any talent to speak of don't even really use that talent. Shit, there's girls like Subaru who literally just talks into a camera for the majority of her streams, occasionally breaking up the "action" with a dick joke phone game. The EN girls absolutely destroy JP in talent.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:04:49 2021 No.3537325 >>3510766 Doesn't matter I can totally see them doing it to make a headline

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:11:18 2021 No.3537557 >>3536062 i'm not even arguing they're not talented i'm just saying subs alone don't define that retarcdchama

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:11:19 2021 No.3537559 >>3537325 You mean you can totally see Nijisanji doing it for a headline.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:16:20 2021 No.3537736 >>3537559 Melissa is a legit talented singer. Don't know about Ryuushen. And Chaika is a great comedian. So they are not just meme lgbtqrstuv.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:18:58 2021 No.3537828 >>3499144 I hope they have a British EN vtuber

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:22:27 2021 No.3537924 >>3537736 Chaika is not gay, he's just a crossdresser.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:24:56 2021 No.3537993 >>3537924 Well, straight Drag Queen did exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:30:13 2021 No.3538134 >>3499144 Is this post what people refer to as a rat? What is a rat?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:31:20 2021 No.3538169 >>3538134 a rodent. It normaly lives in high grass, sewers and dark places

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:37:35 2021 No.3538328 >>3537828 Same. They had a Sherlock Holmes themed girl but made her American for some reason, it was a wasted opportunity for a pleasant Brit girl accent. I want someone who sounds a bit like Froot, she's got a nice voice.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:37:41 2021 No.3538333 >>3538134 A miserable little pile of secrets.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:51:04 2021 No.3538683 >>3538134 watch rick astley's never gonna give you up (video) on youtube for an awesome rick roll, fellow memer :))

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 11:18:44 2021 No.3539439 File: 25 KB, 480x480, 1529448083326.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ITT: OP being a rrat, and a faggot.

Anonymous Mon May 10 11:23:50 2021 No.3539585

>>3523638
I mean, forbidden knowledge says you're an idiot if you believe this.
>>3531397
Incorrect, most if not all of them were something before, to the point of being in the actual entertainment industry. The magic of reducing your online presence is amazing.
>>3536869
>Korone: Just plays old games for a really long time. Not a talent.
Nice bait
>Pekora: Plays minecraft and is retarded. Not a talent
Nice bait
>Fubuki: Is cute. Not a talent.
Clipfag
>Marine: Is an actually talented artist, but is mostly famous for being horny, which isn't a talent
Clipfag
>Coco: Bilingual, which is a talent. Uses it exclusively to read Reddit posts, so it's wasted.
Clipfag
>Haato: Schizo shitposts with barely understandable engrish, not a talent
Clipfag
>The EN girls absolutely
You could have just said you only watch the EN girls because you can't understand Japanese, no need to shit on actual talent.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 11:30:08 2021 No.3539761 File: 31 KB, 640x480, 1517196731366.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3499402 lily has an avatar when she doesn't want to see her face already and she already rakes in thousands. I would mindbreak the fuck out of her with my dick tho.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 11:44:52 2021 No.3540160 >>3539585 This about right, Anon. >3536869 suffered a heavy blunt trauma to the head when he was a younger.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 13:26:41 2021 No.3542799 Man, how many are they shitting out? Hasn't it been only 5 months or so? Are people really getting that bored with streamers, attention span of a fly. Where will Hololive stop? Does Yagoo want a thousand member strong vtuba army?

Anonymous Mon May 10 13:36:14 2021 No.3543018

>>3507961
sure, learning to speak spanish, french, or german (or other languages closely related to English) isn't hard at all if you are native in English. But leaning an asian language is hard as fuck because there are no similarities. You have to start from scratch.

Anonymous Mon May 10 14:04:37 2021 No.3543653

>Kiara
Already only watched by loyalists, nobody else gives a shit about her.
>Ina
Fills a niche, and it is highly doubtful that someone else could fill it "better". Even if we do get someone like her they'll most likely just be an inferior version.
>Mori
Unless they hire some super-star song producer nobody is taking away her niche.
>Gura
Is Gura, nothing will ever affect her numbers.
>Ame
By far the most threatened, she doesn't have any great talents and her "gamer" niche can EASILY be filled by someone who is simply better at video games.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 14:39:40 2021 No.3544341 >>3543653 this screams clipfaggot all over

Anonymous Mon May 10 15:06:26 2021 No.3544815

>>3544341
They're not wrong though and I don't actually watch clippers (why give them money for the vtuber's work?) Kiara has a following for..reasons, she won't gain but she won't lose unless a gravure model becomes a vtuber with an active career outside of hollow. Ina is extremely niche and chill. Mori has multiple followings, she's losing no one on the music side, no one is there for her gaming. Gura...comes from a cultured background, it's impossible to beat someone who was ALREADY on top. Ame is legit the only one without anything special, even prior to holo. She is who she is but her gimmick can easily be overshadowed by actual good gamers. You don't need to like clips to see their talent. Ame also seems like the least invested in the sense she heavily goes with the flow.

Anonymous Mon May 10 15:12:08 2021 No.3544920

>>3544815
Different anon. I mostly agree, but imo Ame is more about her entertainer skills and the technical efforts she puts into her streams than her gamer skills. Her best streams are the ones where she sucks at the game. That is still a less safe niche than the other ones though.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 15:16:03 2021 No.3545018 >>3543653 >>3544815 >clearly not members

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 15:24:29 2021 No.3545207 File: 52 KB, 720x1127, lol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3544341 Do more reps before you post sounding like a moron. >>3544815 Clearly the same dude replying to his own post. Do your reps

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