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34223790 No.34223790 [Reply] [Original]

Why do normalfags want vtubers to just be normal streamers with anime avatars?

>> No.34223843

>>34223790
maybe they should just fuck off and be indie or 'normal' streamers then

>> No.34223863

>>34223790
I don't mind if they act like normal streamers with an avatar. But I do start to mind when they act like whores or are obnoxious.

>> No.34223867

>>34223790
The abnormal catches their attention but they want things in a familiar box so they try to cut off whatever doesn't fit. Once it fits in the box they get bored and move on.

>> No.34223873
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34223873

They don't really. They're just spineless and want their oshi to always like them no matter how much she changes. It's why you see teacucks posting improve yourself everywhere because the only answer they could imagine to Ame shitting on them was to blame everyone else.

>> No.34223874

>>34223790
because they dont watch them

>> No.34223934

>>34223790
>Normalfags
>Acting like normalfags
Its a real fucking mystery ain't it?

>> No.34224011

>>34223790
Because they're normalfags.

>> No.34224016

>>34223790
>as comfortable as possible
Not having to bother with your real identity and keeping as much privacy as possible despite hololive being so big is the biggest fucking plus imaginable.

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34224047

>>34223790
Why don't these faggots just fuck off and watch vshojo which is exactly what they want?
Better yet, why don't the EN talents that want this (mori) fuck off to vshojo.
Oh right, because Hololive's business model prints money, and Nazuna and Kson aren't doing all the great compared to their Hololive days. Nazuna was even complaining about her massive loss of income after Twitch's policy changes.

>> No.34224112

>>34223790
Sometimes people don't know what they want. I guarantee you this is the type of person that pushes for changes but then realizes they don't actually want them. Or more likely they start to lose interest and are oblivious as to the reason.

>> No.34224181

>>34224016
These retards keep referring to Kiara, Bae as examples of
>Look, they are so uncomfortable of having to keep a secret
Honestly, sounds like a EN problem.

>> No.34224225

You all simp for the most mainstream corporation then get surprised when they adopt mainstream entertainment philosophies? They are entertainers, you don't own them, stop trying to control them. You unicorns are the minority in their fanbase, there are plenty of other streamers out there, why not try groom them into your parasocial relationships instead?

>> No.34224259

>Oh no the theater actors are so oppressed, playing a character for a few hours a week. they should be free to break the 4th wall and go off the script
>ahhh isn't it disturbing that muppets aren't real? I want to hear about the guy with his hand up her butt

>> No.34224323

>>34224225
The ones that are "adoptiong mainstream entertainment philosophies" their viewership numbers have cratered recently. Won't surprise me if they fucking come crawling back to gachikoi. Mori is already spamming coomer thumbnails.

>> No.34224331

>>34224047
>normalfags latch onto the next new hot thing
>try to change the thing to suit them
>ruin the thing
>move on to the next new hot thing

>> No.34224343

>>34223790
Ironic weebs hate anime and are embarrassed by their hobbies, they latched onto vtubers after TT hosted mori and now moved onto nijiEN. You can easily identify them if you go to any clip that mentions >le evil idol culture

>> No.34224363
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34224363

>>34223790
I HATE NORMALFAGS

>> No.34224386

>>34223790
Holy shit western men are fucking pathetic.

>> No.34224511

>>34224225
>le heckin unicorn boogeyman
Listen faggot the only reason I watch Vtubers is because of the Kayfabe and them not getting their personal and professional lives mixed, otherwise I'd just watch normal streamers, that's why a majority of people watch Vtubers.

>> No.34224522

>>34224225
>They are entertainers, you don't own them, stop trying to control them.
Right back at you normalfag. If one of the girls wants fuck all to do with your shitty boy branch then respect her and fuck off.

>> No.34224569
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34224569

THE CASUALS WILL DESTROY HOLOLIVE!
TWO MORE WEEKS!

>> No.34224581

>>34224225
She's not gonna fuck you saviorfag.

>> No.34224602

>>34224225
If idol culture is evil then why would I, the bad guy, just give up on it? For what?

>> No.34224665

>>34224602
>B-Because I'm the good guy and because I told you, you should!
Yes normalfag niggers think like this.

>> No.34224679

>>34223863
incel

>> No.34224688

>>34224225
Better question faggot, why don't you just go over to twitch where you belong?

>> No.34224691

>>34223790
Normalfags are plague of hobbies. They come to hobby, destroy it and move to another target. They are nothing more than virus.

>> No.34224757

>>34224679
>wanting women to act like decent people in places where people can see them is incel mentality
The west has truly fallen.

>> No.34224779

>>34224691
The true bane is the spineless fucks that listen to them. Here's a tip, if normalfags have shown up then what you're doing is working for mass appeal don't stop what you're doing.

>> No.34224849

>>34224047
people who get all their vtuber knowledge from /#/ are always so funny lmao

>> No.34224942

>>34224691
>and move to another target
I fucking wish. Videogames ad the internet as a whole are fucking ruined and they still haven't fucked off. I'm also also enough to remember when videogames and other "nerdy" things weren't popular and people gave you shit for liking them. Now those people not only claim to have always been fans, but they have no standards and will just consoom everything. I played games but I never bought a bunch of junk merch, "gamer" mice, etc. Now the fucks have even ruined building PCs since so many parts these days have useless RGB bullthit on it to please their retarded brains, why the fuck am I wasting power on useless lights?

Normies never fuck off. They just infest, subvert, destroy and prevent anyone from rebuilding as they don't leave and prevent any changes to return the hobby to its roots (look at all the normies who want more internet censorship and less privacy).

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>>34224779
>Here's a tip, if normalfags have shown up then what you're doing is working for mass appeal don't stop what you're doing.
Trust the plan, anon. I know the road to success.

>> No.34224980

>>34224942
the irony of this post

>> No.34225044

>>34223790
>boring normalfags want everything to be normal and boring

who would have thought?

>> No.34225056

>>34223790
I never watched a female streamer for more than 5 minutes before the Miko n word clip. I will lose interest if they turn they into regular streamers.

>> No.34225115

>>34223867
they are virtue signalling in other words a true plague in the West.

>> No.34225131

>>34224225
It's too bad you normalfags can't practice what you preach, what with you trying to force them to collab with the boys with your incessant collab begging even though some of them avoid the boys of their own volition. Some of you have legit gotten pissed at and given them shit for not even acknowledging the boys. You're all a bunch of fucking hypocrites and no better than the "le heckin evil incel unicorns" you're trying to own. Shut the fuck up and go kill yourselves. You're a blight upon this hobby.

>> No.34225145

>>34223790
Is that not the point of vtubing? Roleplaying as an anime character? Your kind of question also applies to JP as well.

In fact there hasn't been a single Vtuber who's stuck to their lore

>> No.34225148

>>34224849
>nothing he said is wrong but it makes me angry so I'll just throw some shitty twitterfag snark

>> No.34225281

>>34224225
Hololive is not your company, you don't own them, stop trying to control them. You orbiters are the minority in their fanbase, there are plenty of other streamers out there, why not groom them into your parasocial relationship instead? With the small audience, you might finally get attention being a yes man in her audience.

>> No.34225300

>>34224181
That's pretty random, if anything Calli is a good example of someone that doesn't give a fuck and wants to be recognized as her real self (also probably the most active roommate atm).

>> No.34225455

>>34223790
cause a lot of OG vtubers where just normal fucking people that weren't trying to pander to lonely men. .LIVE and Hololive brought in unicorns and Hololive monopolizing the western market set a precedent that all vtubing was like hololive when it never was because the OG vtubers existed and Niji existed and was huge in JP.
>>34224691
>>34224779
>>34224942
Fuck off faggots, you fuckers were the ones that invaded vtubing. I want you gone but that ain't happening so I'll just take the meta for western vtubing moving to more regular non schizo GFE shit instead. Hell I remember in 2019 all the chuuba threads never mentioned shit like this and never lost their minds about men. When EN came out was when western unicorns started to show up in droves.

>> No.34225558

>>34224047
Mori is bound by the UMG shit but she's like one leg outside of the holobox this days, she doesn't even try anymore.

>> No.34225624

>>34225455
>OG vtubers where just normal fucking people
They weren't.

>> No.34225724

>>34225455
>OG vtubers where just normal fucking people
Holy fucking Larp. Is this what it looks like when normies try to convince you that they are the OG's and their way was always the way it was done and that you are the invaders? The entire concept of Larping as an animated woman from a Monoglian kids cartoon character really reeks of normal doesn't it, fucking faggot.

>> No.34225728

>>34225455
niji panders to fujoshis and yumejos not normal people

>> No.34225875
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>>34225455
>OG vtubers where just normal people
No, the most normal person in this image is Sora

>> No.34225888

>>34224343
> Ironic weebs hate anime
what
> are embarrassed by their hobbies
this is healthy behavior

>> No.34225928

>>34223790
Do those idiots not consider the fact that some of them would prefer their face NOT be fucking everywhere?

Or the fact that some of these VTubers want to separate their two lives?

Hell, why the hell are they targeting just Hololive? What about Nijisanji? VSPO?

>> No.34225950

>>34225888
rope now redditor

>> No.34225994

>>34225148
kson is making a fuckton of money from sponsors and merch
nazuna and kson never had the 70-30 split on twitch so they're not affected by the changes

>> No.34225995

>>34223790
The best part is they seem to think the big streamers arent playing a character. You little ones are VERY naive...

>> No.34226074

>>34225300
to bad her rm is so fugly she's the one who had the most to gain in keeping her private

>> No.34226129

>>34226074
You need to work on your bait

>> No.34226135

>>34224225
What the hell does this even relate to the kayfabe of VTubers?

Hell, if anything, VT is actually right here in telling you to keep your kayfabe this time.

>> No.34226184

>>34223863
I don't mind if they act like normal streamers with an avatar. But I do start to mind when they act like like normal streamers.

>> No.34226209

>>34225131
twitter-brain "fans" care about owning the "incel" more than they do about the talents, most of all they hate it how hololive panders to heterosexual men.

>> No.34226225

>>34223790
>normalfags
>ruining everything
Name a more obvious universal constant.

>> No.34226247

>>34225994
what merch?

>> No.34226266

>>34223790
>Why do normalfags want X to just be normal
Yes

>> No.34226339

>>34225455
Nijisanji JP is doing the same thing you're accusing you know.

Plus Nijisanji EN but for fujoshits.

>> No.34226369

>>34226209
and now those people post here as well

>> No.34226404

>>34225875
Ah, Sora.

The forgotten reason why Hololive went the Idol route.

>> No.34226432

>>34223790
>authoritarian
kek

>> No.34226440

>>34223790
Where can I find this post, Anon?

>> No.34226455

>>34224225
Do your reading comprehension reps and stop letting unicorns live rent free in your head
And if they want the vtubers to show their face might as well ask vtubers to stop vtubing and become fleshstreamer instead
Or even better just ask normalfags to watch fleshstreamers and stop ruining vtubers

>> No.34226528

>>34224047
nazuna likely did not have 70/30 as it is (was) special for only HUGE streamers. I doubt she had it in her partner contract. it just means vshojo can't bring her in on any deal that the other girls might be grandfathered into

>> No.34226545

>>34226129
In her current state, he isn't wrong.

>> No.34226782

>>34226247
https://twitter.com/fancy_fukuya/status/1564085463341678592
https://twitter.com/eeo_store/status/1569249567652331522
https://twitter.com/SceStarcube/status/1573285770538131456
https://ksononair.booth.pm/items/4089115

>> No.34226800

>>34226247
The plushie, for one. She had tens of thousands manufactured and it's already sold out.
https://shop.geekjack.net/collections/kson

>> No.34227033

>>34225455
Oldfag larpers are always the funniest shit.

>> No.34227584

>>34224181
tf happened to bae

>> No.34227655

>>34227584
I don't know, but I've seen someone complaining about how Bae is upset she can't connect with old fans of her past life or something.

>> No.34227683

>>34223790
Watching Vtubers without the parasocial component makes you a way bigger retard than someone that is seeking some type of emotional connection that would help him cope with their day to day life.
Vtubing content is so subpar, that if you unironically watch them "just for entertainment" your taste is beyond garbage and you should fucking kill yourself.

>> No.34227717

>>34227655
wow i can't believe the toxic idol culture did this

>> No.34227740

>>34226247
Jesas you numberpeople are clueless

>> No.34227769

>>34223790
>balancing their real life with their personas
But they aren't? That's one of the pros of V-Tubers.
You can hide your real self to be someone else, Some people like that which is why V-Tubers have become so popular.

>> No.34227789

>>34223790
cuz that's what Vtubers are, not your imaginary girlfriend that you use to cope with your social anxiety

>> No.34227838

>>34227789
hello raddish

>> No.34227876

>your imaginary girlfriend that you use to cope with your social anxiety
that's what vtubers are

>> No.34227887

>>34223790
Because EOP niggers doesn't understand the concept of vtubing and are getting more and more pissed off t hey can't groom them to fuck like normal streamers.

>> No.34227988

>>34224849
>le boogeyman

>> No.34228009

>>34224849
kill yourself deadbeat

>> No.34228041

>>34225455
What a stupid retard you are. Kill yourself

>> No.34228040

>>34225455
look at this retarded newfag larping as oldfag, .Live and Hololive have Siro and Sora, Mito is a newfag compared to them, lmao

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>>34223873
Only Ame's antis keep bringing up her "improve yourself line" because it actually cut through their thin skin.

>> No.34228314

>>34227683
Seeking an emotional connection with a streamer outside of just pure entertainment is more retarded than that. And I do mean clinically retarded. Go outside and talk to people before your social skills completely plummet.

>> No.34228315

>>34223790
What persona? They all just act like themselves once they got comfortable.

>> No.34228401

>>34228314
All celebrity based entertainment is parasocial.

>> No.34228504

>>34228401
I watch a lot of Jerma streams, and aside from actually watching him and occasionally typing in chat, I wouldn't say that I'm in a parasocial relationship with him. Unless you define the mere act of watching a streamer's content to be parasocial in and of itself.

>> No.34228517

>>34228314
what if the entertainment I get from them is derived from the parasocial nature of it?

>> No.34228541

>>34228504
Pretty much, yeah.

>> No.34228553

>>34228504
On some level he's hitting that part of your brain that makes friends. There's no reason to follow one person at that frequency otherwise.

>> No.34228584

>>34228401
My personal, close best friend Nick Mullen would disagree with you

>> No.34228615

The only purpose in life of normalfags is going from hobby to hobby destroying it, they are the worst type of cancer you can think of

>> No.34228621

>>34227584
nothing, the dude is pulling out stuff from his ass
As far as I know, Bae tries really hard to distance herself from the roommate
I have no idea why he chose her as an example

>> No.34228674

Normies can't even get their story straight about whether parasocial idolfag incels are dangerous or insignificant. Somehow we're simultaneously morbidly obese basement dwellers who couldn't crawl up a flight of stairs and also psycho killers/kidnappers or domestic terrorists. Which is it, normies? Am I coming to get you or not?

>> No.34228705

>>34228674
It's typical propaganda tactics. The enemy is both a bumbling, useless idiot, and also the most dangerous thing to ever exist.

>> No.34228752

>>34227655
Didn’t she and her genmates leave because they were being forced to stick with the early kayfabe instead of being allowed to evolve their characters to fit their content?

>> No.34228794

Why does /vt/ want vtubers to just be daycare for incels?

>> No.34228818

>>34228541
>>34228553
Then in that case, its impossible to watch vtubers even in passing without making a parasocial connection like this anon claims >>34227683
I personally think that definition is a bit broad, and when you see most people talking about unhealthy parasocial connections, they mean those fans freakishly obesessed with a particular celebrity, or those with the delusion that they're in a romantic relationship with said celebrity.

>> No.34228827

>>34228794
$25 credit has been deposited into your Steam wallet.

>> No.34228853

>>34228674
Probably because parasocial idolfag incels aren't one person, but a group of people including fat fucks, and actual potentially dangerous lunatics.

>> No.34228894

>>34228794
I miss when we could spam guro, CP and copypasta to filter useless shits like you and those of your kind

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>>34223790
[red]Because they insist on shitting up peoples hobbies[/red]

>> No.34228993

>>34223790
>Hey Coca-Cola, you're one of the biggest soft drink companies in the world. However sugar is evil let's completely change your formula!

>> No.34229020

>>34228894
Be the change you want in the world.

>> No.34229066

>>34228818
That just means people who claim to be watching vtubers "for the entertainment" only are in denial. Or they just don't care about vtubers at all and just want in on the new trendy thing.

>> No.34229137

>>34228076
thanks for the feedback lol

>> No.34229177

>>34228993
We gave you both Diet Coke and Coke Zero, and last time we changed the formula, you faggots bitched and moaned. Fuck off and drink the aspartame

>> No.34229373

>>34228674
Yeah, they treat idolfags like /pol/fags treat jews.

>> No.34229386

>>34228818
Well, that's the thing. The word 'parasocial' gets thrown about with such abandon in vtuber discussions that it really has lost whatever meaning it was supposed to have in the first place. Besides, the way it's used makes me think the poster must be very young or esle hasn't really seen much world or even internet if they think these parasocial tendencies are somehow new or unique to vtubers. Indeed, as with the image in OP, the poster appears quite blind to his own parasocial attachment to facecam streamers.

>> No.34229464

>>34229386
In a way he's the most parasocial. He feels the compulsion to 'save' the vtubers from being oppressed.

>> No.34229551

>>34228818
Exactly, they don't understand parasocial interactions/relationships. Everyone who consumes media engages in it and it's healthy in it's most common form.

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>>34223790
Mori, Kronii, Ollie and Kobo are going to be the biggest problems moving forward.
Ame, Bae are at least on the same wavelength as Fubuki, even if they collab with homos. The former 4 are just cancer

>> No.34232907

>>34228894
Right there with you, Anon.

>> No.34233511

>>34226369
that why i see Vtuber recline as a blessing not even in disguise, it will purge those fucker first, all chuba will come crawling back to their core audience and never ever pander to the twitfag ever again, and we will gatekeep them harder than ever.

>> No.34233951

>>34233511
No community has proven that normies can be driven out once the scene has been infiltrated. What makes you think we can succeed where comic books, anime, video games, tabletop RPGs, etc. have all failed? We can't even drive them out of this very site.

>> No.34235250

normalfag here. thanks for the free entertainment lol

>> No.34235668

>>34235250
See? The girls have nothing to be afraid of. We're harmless, amusing even! Isn't that nice?

>> No.34235701

>>34223790
Because everything anime related is shallow and lacks originality. If you take the "uwu" and "ara ara" out of the equation vtubers will need to put some effort in their content

>> No.34235763

Anime has reached mainstream appeal, normies invading vtubers was an inevitable outcome. Best we can do is hope they get distracted by something else, tell them a latinx train is reading children's books for donations or something

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>>34223790

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