Question about Chloe Sakamata

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Why do people say she's fake?

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>>34159969
She loves scamming people and that makes her loveable.

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>>34160082
Source? How is she fake or whatever

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>>34159969
People that say that like it's a bad thing are stupid. Yeah she's fake, it's called a streaming personality. Everyone acts, don't pretend they don't.

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>>34159969
She isnt fake!! She loves me i know she does otherwise she wouldnt say it! She is kind and hosnest as anyone take yur toxicity someplace else

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>>34160156
Probably the same people who complain about “fake voice” while unironically simping for Gura.

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It's the shitters who also think every girl should collab with a male. They don't get along with a reality where people give money to a female that's willing to play a role for their job.

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>>34159969
Because the real one is inside my basement

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>>34159969
She isn’t fake she just has a streaming personality. I never understood why people call her fake either, she’s a nice chuuba who can sing well and makes cute noises

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>>34159969
Her personality is carefully crafted to attract the biggest whale gachikoi and baiting them into constantly super chatting her.
And she succeed in doing this.
It's true that all vtubers are fake to some degree, but she's next level.

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>>34159969
Nice bait, OP.
Now ask about Suisei and Ayame.

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>>34162279
Not baiting, I don't know why people think she isn't real.

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>>34159969
Apparently she's not "genuinely" passionate about vtubing and is "only doing it for the money". If so, a pretty damn stupid reason since it's a job no matter how you look at it.

At least she hasn't bitched out her own gachikois and rallied twitter to attack them.

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I sniffed her smelly vagoo last night, she's real.

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>>34159969
Ghosts aren't real

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>>34159969
You're a filthy EOP, of course you'd ask a question like this.

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>>34159969
Now that your question has been answered by other anons we can save this thread by posting HoloX teetee

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>>34163354
It wasn't. Just people commenting on her being fake or not, no one said why some consider her fake.

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I wish all of Hololive's girls played their role as great as she does hers.

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>>34160438
This. Almost all of them use a streamer voice. Gura's natural voice is deeper than Ame's.

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>>34159969
She flat out admitted she spends a lot of money and maxed out her credit cards for spending too much and that she loves money?
How can she be fake when she has said this before?

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>>34159969
I wanna eat her pussy and lick every drop of her love juice all day long. No bath.

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>>34162189
Gura>>>> fakey bitch

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Faker than Sana. Atleast she admitted she was not into this anymore. Unlike this whorca

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>>34164426
https://files.catbox.moe/oh9zbk.MOV

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She is a fake orca. I still love her though

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>>34160156
problem is, she's doing it like borderline gaslighter narcists

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>>34164780
how?

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[Anonymous No.]

Someone source her being fake or evidence of fakeness PLEASE.

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because she is a woman

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https://youtu.be/INN0m6FfZaY

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>>34163962
She maxed out cards? That's pretty fucking menhera in jap society considering how frugal they normally are

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>>34159969
seething 2views exists in Japan too

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>>34159969
People say every chuuba is fake. welcome to vt

[Anonymous No.]

Well, another orca thread means... IROKURO TEETEE!

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still no answer why she is fake give sauce

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>>34163909
Damn where can i hear that? That probably sounds better than this cute voice

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>>34169509
not sure what they mean by fake, but she is pretty toxic.

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>>34164426
Sounds like cope. Orca admits her voice is fake and that she loves money so she already BTFO out of your EN Ayame.

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>>34166457
Suisei maxed out her cards more than once and no one calls her out on it

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>>34170995
Now now, don't try to run from the problem by blaming others. And we know, Suisei doesn't waste her money on gambling.

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Ramy has said Sakamata acts basically the same off-stream (ignore the TL, too many mistranslations)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJc-bdcYvz4

She's very grateful to her fans, if you watch her SC readings, you'll know it. Her fan appreciation is probably on par with the likes of Kanatan and Ramy.
She knows people might think it's merely a fan service whenever she said she loves you (as an idol, obviously) or expresses her utmost gratitude even though she really means it.
https://youtu.be/mV4OYgSVBYw?t=7190

she also was surprised that a fan tweeted about how he still doesn't know the real her even though she thinks she already showed it all
https://youtu.be/FYXJWdHWkck?t=3763

If you still think everything is an act, then it can be said to every other holomen. For me, as long as she never contradicts what she has said herself, I don't have any option but to believe her.

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>>34162553
Yeah. You could argue that she does it a little too "on the nose"/obvious, but the fact is if people like it regardless then it doesn't matter.
Knowing your role and playing it well is way better than what EN does.

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>>34159969
I need the scene data

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>>34170995
Suisei... I can believe is a high maintenance woman. I would never say no to loving, marrying, and having Suisei bear my children but even I know she's not necessarily "wife material"

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>>34171228
I don't speak Japanese, but from what you said she seems very likeable, besides looking damn cute.

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>>34171491
Well, she's not perfect either. She's a lazy ass mf who sleeps 10+ hrs a day, can be quite wasteful(her previous house contract is not canceled yet just because she's too lazy to contact the landlord and about to move again soon because of 'ghost'), and likes BL way too much. But she's also kind, grateful, and doesn't do things out of malice.
If you think she's a horrible human being, you must have an absurdly high standard.

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She makes it so obvious she is a fake that it lures people in to try and find something else with her. They find she's kind of a weirdo who's had a shitty life up until now that still be kinda shitty even with the money and fame. They dig deeper and realize she's a huckster since she started vtubing at 19 and scammed her viewers I do feel bad about her closest relative dying 8 months ago though.

Other holomems says she's kinda sweet and polite, but annoying.

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>>34159969
her voice is fake, pretends she's dysfunctional when she really isn't, and even though she possesses near-total English fluency and has demonstrated this many times on stream like when she talks to other EN's, she'll still sometimes pretend she sucks at speaking English because she thinks it's cute (which it is but not really when it's obviously not for real).

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>>34170453
Shark also admits her streaming voice is different than irl voice
I don't know who is making a fuss here. Gift card farmers mayber

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>>34159969
Because it was obvious from day one how she careful chose that personality and behaviors to maximize gachikois.
She can be pretty fun in some solo streams I've seen of her, though, if you don't mind

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>>34161334
Chloe has never been unicorn friendly. Yes, there is no evidence that she has ever collab'd with a male at any point of her career even before hololive, no evidence of even having a male friend, any evidence of her roommate knowing a male, does some joke GFE stuff, has called herself an idol and wants to go deeper with it, and cancelled the only time she'd ever be on stream with a male announcer for the pokemon tourney but she never once said that she'd never collab with a male or that she was unicorn friendly.

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>>34165729

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>>34159969
How can you hear the ghost story and not see the obvious cover up alibi for a boyfriend making noise in the other room?

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>>34173066
A true idol doesn't tell you to your face that males are disgusting and must be avoided

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>>34159969
I have no idea where these fake comments come from.
She said day one she's in it for the money, then proceeds to do everything that makes money.
She said she puts on a cutesy voice because she knows people find it cute.
She's been more honest about things than a lot of chuubas dare to admit, so where's the fake?

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>>34173960
She also said she was a Mashochist who was into blonde seiso girls, and wants Iroha to talk shit to her and spank her butt because it was her kink but it was completely rectconed because of Cover's meddling.

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>>34174656
Cover is the fucking worst.

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>>34159969
Chloe's persona acts like a honey trap character and irl women that behave that way are known to be fake bitches with ulterior motives.
So basically schizos think that her kayfabe is actually Chloe trying to scam you and they call her fake so that others won't fall for her schemes.

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>>34174945
her new year outfit is basically a whore's outfit, she's admitted to be only doing Vtubing for money, and hams up her saccharine cuteness with the burikko act. and people still complain that she's "fake"
No shit faggot

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>>34175092
>be upfront about being fake
>makes her real moments have way more impact
Chloe might be smart.

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>>34169593
It kinda slips out when she's low on energy, there's not much else out there than just trying to hear it in a stream. There's some stuff scattered around but it's scarce.

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Irokuro tee tee~ Iroha helping her dork of a wife.

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Sweaty, unwashed for weeks orca armpits.

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I would imagine that fund raising for a new model then graduating after passing the holo audition is where it's rooted from.

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I'm more curious on why does she thinks ghosts are real and that she's haunted by one?

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>>34159969
she puts a burikko personality on, and acts as the eternal PON

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>>34176833
Lui's ass

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*summons shion yo*

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>>34159969
I would argue that nearly every famous streamer/chuuba is fake to some degree. They kind of have to be in order to please the suits. If you want "real" chuubas, then you have to check out the ones at the bottom of the totem pole, because they have a lot less to lose, and even less people to please.

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>>34171202
>Suisei doesn't waste her money on gambling.
Gacha is gambling, but worse since you don't even get any money back.

>>34171228
All streamers are fake, you can't be that high energy all the time and your job requires you to entertain people. IRL none of the girls will walk around talking about their boing boing or pettan or randomly saying hi honey, etc.
I actually find the fans complaining about things being fake to be weirdos simply because if you want real people, go outside. But thats the thing, real people aren't fun to watch.

>>34171377
I cant really see Suisei as high maintenance since she's also pretty independent and strong minded. She's one of the girls who can look after herself easily, now Pekora or a menhera would be a totally different story.

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>>34166457
wtf they all max out their cards whaling all the time it's fucking insane.

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>>34172712
what the fuck she was no where near english fluency when talking to EN members

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Why is Sakamata sexually frustrated?

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>>34171228
I’ve seen anons claim that she was a bit more plastic before her grandmother died, so maybe it’s just debut impressions being hard to shake. Even moreso for a JP on this site, since at least with EN and ID you don’t have the language barrier to hide those sorts of changes.

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>>34173506
But the ghost noise was a female voice.

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>>34182007
Personally I don't count having higher energy on stream as being fake. It's always about what they say and what they do.

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>>34159969
If you can't notice her sociopathic tendencies, you should just give up.

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>>34159969
She is as fake as american cheese, it is nor real cheese at all, but some people love it, just like chloe

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>>34162496
For starters, she's a 2D girl.

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If you watch her streams and can understand what she's saying, you know that she makes it clear that she wants her fans to keep a certain distance from her. It's kinda turned into a repeating joke that people try to cross the line and she tells them how creepy they are and to stay away from her.

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>>34182173
Because the ghost didn't touch her enough.

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>>34159969
She pretends to be an orca, while in reality she’s 0% orca.

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>spent hours last night jerking my dick to her VR MMD videos
this semen demon orca is going to kill me

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>>34182653
Might be the case. Then again most members have changed compared to their debut days.

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Funny how you never see those threads about chuubas like Pekora or Miko who are always overracting.
It's always clipfags who deduce the girls' personality from random jokes and then decide if they're "fake" or "genuine". Same obsession with "real" voices.
I guess Sakamata's reputation took a hit from overrusing the bath jokes. The ghost thing though seemed too elaborated to be a bit, so she probably has a menhera side.

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>>34159969
>Why do people say she's fake?
She's an anime character played by a 3D woman.

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>>34186549
pekora IS a bunny girl that lives in pekoland, peko

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>>34185556
That MMD model is lewder than a lot of nude ones.

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>>34186982
the model they use looks so much like her real one it made me wonder if it had been officially distributed. its got me fucking addicted i literally cannot stop myself from fapping to her in VR as much as possible, she's going to fucking kill me

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>>34185556
Where can I get it? Is that on iwara?

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>>34187830
theres a fuckton of people making videos with her model now. the ones i watched in VR were done by MMDpasta
https://kemono.party/fantia/user/144056

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>>34170453
>en ayame
you don't even know what you're talking about tourist

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>>34187955
Bless

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>>34187190
I thought the same exact thing about the model. But sometimes retreat is the only option, you need to live to coom another day.

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>>34189933
i cant do it, the moment i remember her or see her again ive got the VR headset back on, its over

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>>34172712
do you think pekora’s voice is real too?? all of them have a streamer voice it’s nothing new. and her english isn’t anywhere near fluency kys anon

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>>34187190
Semen demon

[Anonymous No.]

>another Sakamata thread
>Irohashit spam
Fuck off, She's mine

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>>34177809
Apparently it’s a popular phenomenon in Japan, some other girls like Lui said they visited Sakamata’s house and even bought salt to get rid of the ghost. Her ghost arc is over now and she’s back to streaming consistently, thankfully

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>>34160082
based. people deserve to be scaMmed. me especially

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I want to sniff her unwashed cunt and shithole so god damn bad.

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The only things fake about her are her boobs.

[Anonymous No.]

The only problem with Chloe is that she's too young for me. If only she was born 5-10 years earlier...

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>>34196812
Nah.

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>>34196812
You are the spam.

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>>34177809
it's a stat that more people believe in ghosts than don't, honestly you can just look at the state of the world and realize most people are schizophrenic

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>>34159969
I mean... she is.
But she's a hired actress and that's literally her job.
She's good at it.
I like Chloe.

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>>34160156
It's a problem when the primary thing you feel from the performance is it being fake.

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>>34159969
The real answer is because her debut stream came off as pandering to every single money-making stereotype imaginable and most people haven't watched her since.

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>>34162553
That's literally what early Subaru was. She even lied being an otaku just to get accepted

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>>34159969
They're jealous

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>>34159969
Because she is

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>>34159969
Chloe is just the tamed JP version of Shylily

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>>34160438
>>34163909
this is only a problem when the fake voice is worse than their real voice, which I suspect Chloe's is.

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>>34220326
If you want to play this game, shylily is just the tamed version of veibae.

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>>34159969
Its better to ask /jp/