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/#/ - Numbers Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:23:34 2022 No.34047161 [Reply] [Original]

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Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:24:06 2022 No.34047177
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:25:16 2022 No.34047208
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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>52,721: Subaru (Hololive)
>41,002: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>39,492: Toya (Nijisanji)
>31,018: Miko (Hololive)
>27,948: Ame (Hololive)
>25,486: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,891: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>22,643: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>21,816: Eli (Nijisanji)
>19,713: Fubuki (Hololive)
>19,338: NeruMero (Indie)
>18,787: Korone (Hololive)
>18,668: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,217: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,211: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,809: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>13,525: Rindou (Nijisanji)
>13,336: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,133: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,112: Watame (Hololive)
>12,568: Salome (Nijisanji)
>12,511: Runa (VSPO)
>12,383: Korone (Hololive)
>11,856: Salome (Nijisanji)
>11,842: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>11,764: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>11,184: Nene (Hololive)
>10,962: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,810: Met (774 Inc.)
>10,781: Mito (Nijisanji)
>10,638: Kaida (Nijisanji)
>10,437: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,429: Seki (Meridian Project)
>10,315: Beni (VSPO)
>10,094: Luca (Nijisanji)

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:25:58 2022 No.34047227
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>>34047208
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden
12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,240 - Kuzuha Cup PUBG
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92,264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96,590 - Fate/Grand Order
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89,156 - Fate/Grand Order
21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52,693 - Fate/Grand Order
22) Naruse (Nijisanji) - 34,966 - 3D debut
23) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 67,731 - The Strange Tales of Nijisanji
24) Mito (Nijisanji) - 51,019 - Birthday gyakutotsu
25) Subaru (Hololive) - 52,721 - Persona 4 Golden

>PER COMPANY
19x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko, Nijisanji, Subaru
1x: Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Mito, Moona, Naruse, Sora, Suisei, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
169x: Hololive
88x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
4x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
34x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome
11x: Nijisanji, Subaru
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Fuwa, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:26:45 2022 No.34047241

>>34047056
>>34047110
>>34047117
>>34047201

I mean, assuming the manager's attitude is the same between branches and things like >>34046132, I'd imagine it goes like this:
>Mane-chan: Hey, Kronii, we saw your schedule. So, about this collab with Vesper ... Do you think your viewer is okay with it?
>Kronii, still munching on her 2nd 2-day-old Footlong: Iz oogay I gan handa them, dun woyy ACK-

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:28:19 2022 No.34047278 >>34047241 Goddamnit, I can HEAR those quotes. Yea, Kronii botched things up, but really I'm not that surprised considering she wasn't even aware of how nutso her fanbase is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:28:39 2022 No.34047285 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7IfYZN3EOk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xehHuFbmgvI >Two frames Triangle why ... Just mash them into 1 stream ...

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:29:20 2022 No.34047305
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>>34047186
No, she is not. Baelz is only just barely ahead on average CCV and that's only because Bae streams far less than Kiara and event streams make up a higher number of her overall content as a result. Take into account that Bae streams in US prime time while Kiara streams in the absolute worst timeslot possible and it's obvious that Kiara is stronger than Baelz overall

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:29:22 2022 No.34047306 File: 295 KB, 1614x2048, 6ac1c9a237be8e0bc7fa9acb4a42a89d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34047161 /news/ roundup for 25-09-2022 >>33998509 Recent clip numbers >>33985229 >>33985260 >>33985524 >>33985555

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:29:25 2022 No.34047308 >>34047224 Baes indie friend, Tsunderias former top talent, deadbeat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:29:44 2022 No.34047320 Ame wanted to Collab with Astel over a year ago and she got a similar reaction. You guys need to improve your memories or do your reps

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:30:01 2022 No.34047328 >>34047278 It'll be forgotten by the time she releases her next schedule. The drama is overstated

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:30:02 2022 No.34047329 >>34047278 > considering she wasn't even aware of how nutso her fanbase is. Anon, she created a pretend score of how close she was with her audience, in which they could get or lose points depending on their behavior. She knew how nutso they were

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:30:43 2022 No.34047339 >>34047278 >I'm not that surprised considering she wasn't even aware of how nutso her fanbase is. >Implying She cultivated this shit intentionally by doing her thing in pre-chat

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:31:21 2022 No.34047348 >>34047305 nta but why are you still using like a 4 month old graph

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:31:47 2022 No.34047357

>>34047278
I mean, that's a weakness of the way Holo management approach things
On one hand, their talents has less stress about being micro-managed about stuffs
On the other hand, the responsibility is largely on the talent themselves, since you can't just blame management if you fuck up

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:32:09 2022 No.34047362 I may have been waking up at 4-6 pm for the last week but I would NEVER miss /ourguy/ Roberu's birthday stream. 4 hours is more than enough sleep for today.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:32:09 2022 No.34047361 >>34047329 >>34047339 I dunno, she seemed completely surprised at how the other girls called her fanbase crazy. Like, it's very easy to fall into that parasocial trap and not even realize just how far down that road you've gone.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:32:21 2022 No.34047367

>>34047241
>manager's attitude is the same between branches
Regarding how the talents approach their content? Pretty much 100%.
The only time managers can control the talents' action is when they run afoul of the company's restrictions. Otherwise, they pretty much only give advices or suggestions, while the talents have the last say.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:32:37 2022 No.34047376 >>34047357 That sounds like they have quite a bit of talent freedom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:33:12 2022 No.34047389 >>34047339 Okay, some Kronie have to explain this shit to me How is Kronii the same as someone like, say ... Rushia? Don't nitpick, green woman is the only one I know when it comes to GFE

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:33:53 2022 No.34047404 >>34047224 Bae friend

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:34:02 2022 No.34047408 >>34047361 Is it the Council anniversary when other girls called out kronies are crazy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:34:13 2022 No.34047414 >>34047389 She's not GFE they just thought she was a good grooming target

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:34:13 2022 No.34047413 >>34047376 Anon, NO

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:34:47 2022 No.34047427 Any current ongoing streams + their numbers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:34:52 2022 No.34047430 >>34047389 It's hard to explain. Kronii is a broken woman and she did this parasocial thing by accident

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:35:01 2022 No.34047432
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>>34047389
Voice pack pretending she's your GF? Her most viewed stream this year is ASMR? The fact she's fucking shit at games and being a coombaiter is literally her ONLY redeeming feature? Infinity was renowned for the amount of hornyposting

https://youtu.be/ohsk2FrZ40g

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:35:04 2022 No.34047433 File: 61 KB, 534x535, what the fuck.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lucubs keep winning!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:35:18 2022 No.34047438 >>34047285 Because she's gonna bleed viewers for the SC portion anyways. Might as well make it a different stream

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:35:49 2022 No.34047446 File: 46 KB, 821x264, goooomba.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's that time of the year now huh

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:36:03 2022 No.34047449 >>34047414 >>34047430 So Kronies are just fucking retarded then because it's not even her fault she didn't understand their shits Got it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:36:14 2022 No.34047452 >>34047433 I keep forgetting about their streamlabs earnings

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:36:14 2022 No.34047453 >>34047389 Less GFE, more target for groomers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:36:39 2022 No.34047470 >>34047446 Oh. Well, expect THAT song to pop back up in the algo as HERfags start looping it again then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:36:46 2022 No.34047471 We always said Pekora is a numberfag But how did she get so good at numberfagging? She was just a nobody on NND

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:36:59 2022 No.34047474 >>34047449 Fanbase reflects their oshi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:37:01 2022 No.34047476 File: 532 KB, 700x699, 1644907240659.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34047449 Oh no you don't faggot >>34047432 Kronii deliberately pandered to that audience, she doesn't get to claim ignorance

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:38:03 2022 No.34047493 >>34047432 >Check the ASMR >39:02 - Subway talk Fucking hell, I thought from the last few stream it was a joke

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:38:11 2022 No.34047495 >>34047471 Years of experience. Her pivot from trying to be seiso to a devilish trickster character was a spark of genius

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:38:53 2022 No.34047513 >>34047453 >>34047414 That's what I think about GFE in any form, the viewers are the ones being groomed until the chuuba failed their magic on stream.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:39:08 2022 No.34047516 >>34047204 quite a retarded move. The song is shit without the MV to go with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:39:09 2022 No.34047517 oh, I just realized choco and roboco was okay with male collabs I thought choco was part of no-male collab side https://youtu.be/FLEsYdshc2s

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:39:11 2022 No.34047519 >>34047476 She's literally in SNOT, in fucking Hololive with the most Sex avatar. She 100% knew what she was doing

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:39:22 2022 No.34047523

>>34047389
She's one of the Holos who interacted the most with her papypigs and gave them a fuckton of attention, even said she hoped she would meet some Kronies at a con. On top of that merch like dakimakura, ASMR streams and most of her charm comes from pitybaiting and "I can fix her" vibes. Compare it to someone like Ina who seems pretty distant towards her fans.
Even then Kronii could've gotten away if she just did a few big collabs but she went full on obsessed with Vesper, so much she couldn't resist commenting on his underwear on Twitter just before she said she wouldn't do it on a member stream. Plus 1 on 1 collab.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:39:36 2022 No.34047528 >>34047495 It helps set up an identity for herself, too. How many other antagonists does Hololive have? People love a good villain

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:39:39 2022 No.34047529 >>34047471 like a ton of people in jp internet: copying jun

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:40:01 2022 No.34047536 >>34047513 It went both ways, and really the streamer needs to have a strong enough personality and enough awareness to put some distance if they don't want to fall down into parasocial hell together with their audience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:40:15 2022 No.34047540 >>34047278 >she wasn't even aware of how nutso her fanbase is. The nutsos seem to have been filtered, infinity is actually usable now. She should be fine moving forward, even if her numbers tank a bit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:41:00 2022 No.34047551 >>34047540 Has Gabe banished himself to the shadow realm yet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:41:02 2022 No.34047552 >>34047517 Anon. Choco regularly talks about her dating experiences and her desire to find a husband. I don't think anyone who watches choco fucking CARES, in fact most of them probably just want her to find a goddamn husband before it's too late.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:41:14 2022 No.34047558 >/NijiEN/ OP Oh no no no no

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:41:30 2022 No.34047561 >>34047540 Her numbers will recover. Kronies don't have anywhere else to go

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:41:47 2022 No.34047568 File: 45 KB, 1024x576, 168557894385.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:41:49 2022 No.34047571 >>34047551 Wasn't he banned by her in the waiting room on that Vesper Psychiatry stream?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:42:05 2022 No.34047577 >>34047540 For the best for everyone in the long run. That level of schizo and parasocial is bad for everyone the longer it goes on for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:42:32 2022 No.34047583 >>34047568 The Big Dipper

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:42:38 2022 No.34047587 >>34047517 Bitch you thought you had a "point".

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:42:42 2022 No.34047589 Is this really what Tempus is collabing with? https://twitter.com/shxtou/status/1574315726449483776

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:43:02 2022 No.34047600 >>34047568 the most based man in vtubing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:43:28 2022 No.34047609 >>34047568 Normal Toya thumbnail

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:43:51 2022 No.34047614 >>34047523 Sounds like a huge daddy issues to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:44:16 2022 No.34047618 >>34047540 >She should be fine moving forward I mean, aside from being a subpar streamer. Her schedules are still ass and her solo content is boring, if she didn't have the voice/design buff even fucking Bae would be outperforming her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:44:17 2022 No.34047619 >>34047552 yeah, me LET ME IN ABE

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:45:00 2022 No.34047632 >>34047618 Nah she's more interesting than Bae

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:45:01 2022 No.34047633 >>34047568 Needs some big titty onee-sans ngl

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:45:02 2022 No.34047635 File: 352 KB, 1521x868, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34047551 He's gone full anti-homo schizo, check her prechat, if he isn't around he probably got banned.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:45:03 2022 No.34047636 File: 27 KB, 739x415, Junajpeg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34047568 Arjuna Alter Noble Phantasm

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:45:06 2022 No.34047638 >>34047614 Spot on

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:45:23 2022 No.34047643 >>34047568 shothing star

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:45:30 2022 No.34047645 >>34047619 Anon Abe is dead, Kishida has been the PM since 2021 and you CAN get into Japan right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:45:32 2022 No.34047646 >>34047589 Holobronies are back on the menu, Nijisisters

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:46:23 2022 No.34047658 >>34047561 A bunch of the most schizo kronies were former deadbeats. They’ll just move to whoever in EN3 has the deepest voice and biggest tits and never shut the fuck up about being ex kronies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:46:30 2022 No.34047663 >>34047618 Eh, depends. Some of her fans might slowly leave if she keeps being boring (her coomer/GFE buff is completely gone now).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:46:35 2022 No.34047664 >>34047638 Isn't Vesper also married? Oh boy, this is a doujin plot in making.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:46:38 2022 No.34047667

>>34047357
You could argue that this is the ideal working condition. You could do whatever you want as long as you don't cross the restriction and if you want some help you can just ask your manager. I think the only time manager interfere with was during Haachama's schizo arc. Probably Asacoco after hanging Kanata as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:46:53 2022 No.34047672 >>34047645 Abe is the gatekeeper of waifu heaven anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:46:53 2022 No.34047674 >>34047552 Doesn't she already have a bf and is open about it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:47:20 2022 No.34047682 >>34047664 Please don't talk about your fetish

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:47:23 2022 No.34047683 >that nazuna thread in the catalog Jesus christ I genuinely hope she's just pretending to be lonely to squeeze her paypigs because holy fuck that's pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:47:25 2022 No.34047684 >>34047568 Men in niji>women in niji except for the very few like mito and Hoshikawa (nijiCN need not apply)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:47:34 2022 No.34047687 >>34047664 Too bad Japs don't care about council except for maybe Fauna with that viral Cowkini

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:47:52 2022 No.34047694 >>34047682 shut the fuck up Kronii and lusting after married man

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:47:57 2022 No.34047696

>>34047540
I'm not even a Kronie and I hate seeing those guy getting blamed so fucking much. As discussed Kronii was a complete retard and handled this thing in the absolute worst possible way, people had the right to complain about this without being labeled as schizo incels. You don't throw your fanbase under the bus just so you can get away with shit lying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:48:04 2022 No.34047700 >>34047674 Last I heard, she was still single and using dating apps

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:48:32 2022 No.34047711

>>34047361
>it's very easy to fall into that parasocial trap and not even realize just how far down that road you've gone.
My point is that, in this case, it was a two way street. It was not the chat cultivating a one sided parasocial relationship, it was the chat and the entertainer cultivating a mutual relationship.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:48:53 2022 No.34047718 >>34047683 She the kind of woman that would be lonely even if she was married and had kids

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:48:54 2022 No.34047719 >>34047694 *stop lusting

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:49:53 2022 No.34047740 >>34047719 Make me

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:50:32 2022 No.34047755 >>34047696 This. Kronii fuckiny killed the good will some people had for Tempus, they should avoid Kronii instead imo

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:50:45 2022 No.34047759 >>34047683 Don't worry she still has Orca-kun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:51:01 2022 No.34047764 >>34047683 >Entire Hololive against you now >Vshojo already abandoned you >No other company want to touch her >Mafumafu fucking cut contact with her I mean it’s not that hard to believe

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:51:02 2022 No.34047765 >>34047700 >dating apps Choco-sen's not gonna make it...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:51:15 2022 No.34047770 You guys psychoanalyze too much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:51:20 2022 No.34047771 >>34047683 Man I just can't help but feel bad about her, she's just a dumb menhera...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:51:57 2022 No.34047781 >>34047674 > Doesn't she already have kek, she wishes (and so does her audience so she can stop streaming 48 hours then sleeping 72)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:52:06 2022 No.34047785 >>34047770 was your mom a control freak anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:52:30 2022 No.34047796 >>34047674 she went on dates. no stable bf i don't think anyone can handle her autism just last week, started playing dbd and apex again. crashed/slept for 4 days, got up to stream rust for 7 hrs again was much worse during her ark addiction era

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:52:54 2022 No.34047803 >>34047696 >I hate seeing those guy getting blamed so fucking much I don't. If there's one thing more reprehensible than Nijinigs, it's the fucking containment breakers, and those dipshits regularly break containment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:53:02 2022 No.34047804 >>34047683 Her entire existence is a real life manifestation of greek tragicomedy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:53:52 2022 No.34047824 >>34047781 >>34047796 Ah ok. I read >>33921992 and interpreted "dating" as "dating a bf"

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:54:38 2022 No.34047843 >>34047755 That's definitely what happened to me. Used to occasionally watch a clip of Vesper, but now it just reminds me of Kronii being a fucking sperg on Twitter so I don't watch them anymore

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:55:19 2022 No.34047863
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Personal rrat. EN3 was delayed up till now for 2 reasons. Sana graduation followed by the culling of EN management afterward for mismanaging CouncilRyS. Everything was in disarray and they shot out Tempus to distract us.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:55:39 2022 No.34047869 >>34047764 >>Vshojo already abandoned you Wait, I don't follow the drama. Isn't she part of Vshojo now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:56:25 2022 No.34047888 >>34047803 This. Even for this cesspool of a site, the moment you start going after innocent people who have nothing to do with the whole drama, you deserve anything bad that happens to you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:57:09 2022 No.34047897 >>34047869 Vshojo might be moving to YouTube. Naz is stuck on twitch due to a contract with either cover or bshojo

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:57:56 2022 No.34047914 >>34047869 They probably mean that while She's fucking stuck in that twitch exclusivity deal shoved on her by Vshoujo + twitch, the other vshoujo members are thinking of jumping ship to youtube now thanks to the 50/50 split

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:58:14 2022 No.34047922 >>34047863 >They cull EN management >Then don't replace anyone letting Tempus management control the entire branch Yeah, I could see it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:58:18 2022 No.34047925 >>34047683 She should stop pussyfooting around and open up a cult compound. Live out her dreams of having 500 husbands grow food for her and bathe in their tears and semen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:58:21 2022 No.34047928 >>34047897 You don't have to honor a non-compete if your contract is terminated

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:58:26 2022 No.34047930

>>34047696
> people had the right to complain about this without being labeled as schizo incels.
complaining about male collabs = no
complaining about the lying = yes
> you don't throw your fanbase under the bus just so you can get away with shit lying.
Whether she "gets away" with it or not, is up to the fanbase that she supposedly "betrayed".
There will always be enough "normal" fans who still support her and buy her merch, she will still make a good amount of money.
Whether that money (and viewership) comes from (You) or not, is a choice you're going to have to make.

The only EN VODs I ever watched were the Mythbreakers arc, and almost every Holotalk.
Both programs stopped, and so I stopped watching EN.
Never watched a single council VOD, even Sana's graduation.
I never paid a cent for any of this content, so I can move on and watch something else without a problem. Am I disappointed with some of it? Sure. But I chose to spend my time to watch it, and I'm not choosing not to.
The choice was always mine, not theirs.
And the choice to continue watching her or not - after she blatantly lied to her fanbase - is (You)rs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:58:26 2022 No.34047931 Speaking of menheras, why has festival been tweeting so much from her sub rm account?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:58:31 2022 No.34047934 >>34047771 She's not. You can tell she's incredibly manipulative from the shit she'd do with her deleted tweets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:58:45 2022 No.34047942 >>34047897 >>34047914 Well, that fucking sucks. Should have stuck to her Mikeneko channel

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:58:50 2022 No.34047943 >>34047914 I thought that 70/30 was for the top hitter. Do all of Vshojo included on that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:58:51 2022 No.34047946 >>34047897 Well it can't be vshojo because why would they enforce a contract like that when they could just get her to sign a new one and get her on Youtube with everyone else?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:58:51 2022 No.34047945

>>34047803
Outside of the /infinity/ schizo subhumans I'm sure there were more normal Kronies who didn't deserve this shitshow. For example I liked her and I was never part of that circlejerk, still this chain of events convinced me to drop her forever. Opening Twitter just to see her comment on Vesper's cumstained underwear just to see the schedule two weeks later with two more Vesper collabs is kinda shitty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:59:40 2022 No.34047965 >>34047943 It's for all Twitch Partners.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:59:57 2022 No.34047971 >>34047696 That's what happens when you get a predominant retard like Gabe making noise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:00:28 2022 No.34047989 If Twitch goes under when their money runs out in a year or so I don't think having some kind of exclusivity deal will matter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:00:30 2022 No.34047990 >>34047897 >Naz someone post the Ed, Edd & Eddy picture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:00:33 2022 No.34047991 >>34047683 She deleted the Miguel Gato sub on Twitter didn't she?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:00:41 2022 No.34047997 >>34047945 t. /infinity/ schizo

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:00:58 2022 No.34048004

>>34047843
kek, for me I dropped both Kronii **and** Vesper, tho through no (direct) fault of their own at all.
I used to catch their talking streams while working (listening to it) but their both audiences and the drama surrounding it soured me in such a way I just went back to catching the 80% of the Okayu zatsus my N999 maggot self can understand.

This whole drama (actually starting all the way back on the “cuckbeats” Moro drama, and culminating now) soured me in such a way about HoloEN I just don’t care anymore, I wish well for Gura and brace for the unavoidable recline of the rest

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:01:09 2022 No.34048006 >>34047863 It'd explain the promotion of Jenma and the general mess EN has been in over the past few months.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:01:14 2022 No.34048012 >>34047928 But this is Vshojo contract, not Cover

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:01:34 2022 No.34048020 >>34047928 >>34047946 Guess it’s twitch then

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:01:36 2022 No.34048022 File: 1.52 MB, 1920x1080, kronii sched.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Their finally going up Sana's tower https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1574322727573651456

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:02:16 2022 No.34048037

>>34047361
The other girls probably don't know her fanbase very well, and it'd be really telling of how much of a shit Kronii gave if they did. She just let herself get swept up by them and a handful of sperging members that didn't know how to converse maturely and made the rest of them look all the worse.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:02:17 2022 No.34048040

>>34047930
At the end of the day, you're still watching a streamer to be entertained. And what Kronii was doing went against what her fans were expecting. If Love Live suddenly introduced male members halfway into season 3, people who watched it for the yuribait and female idols would be disappointed and start complaining too

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:02:48 2022 No.34048056 >>34047433 Where is holoid streamlab rank? I keep hearing they have the same SC as jp but no one sends proof

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:03:02 2022 No.34048063 >>34048022 On the same day as Worms finals. Watch it not be hyped more than Worms

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:03:05 2022 No.34048065 File: 229 KB, 449x601, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/livedoornews/status/1574288341629284354 Blue woman is too strong it seems

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:03:08 2022 No.34048067 >>34048022 Gods, FINALLY. After all this time they finally got their shit together.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:03:20 2022 No.34048074 >>34047934 she was dumb enough to interact with Mafu on her work Discord and have it show up on-stream.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:03:24 2022 No.34048077

>>34047863
I'm of the opinion that everything in EN got delayed and messed with because cover shoved omega to the stars, promoting jenma and she saw the shit everywhere and is trying to clean house and is getting her jp colleagues involved to help with things like gura's cancelled then uncancelled live and daki.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:03:39 2022 No.34048084 >>34048056 >I keep hearing they have the same SC as jp Have you tried consuming your meds to stop these voices?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:03:40 2022 No.34048085 >>34048063 Worms have males, minecraft doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:03:42 2022 No.34048086 >>34048022 >Collab >Slime Rancher >Meme stream >Break >Break >Collab >Collab lmao RIP to the Kronies who actually bothered to support her through the homo collabs, this content is your reward

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:03:59 2022 No.34048095

>>34048022
>Doing it after two months
I still find it funny how Sana was one of better Council members outside of no streams thing even when she had to resort to debut jokes and lore
How the fuck was someone with nearly no streaming experience in top 3 of her branch

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:04:12 2022 No.34048100 >>34048022 Pretty excited for the sandwich stream

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:04:19 2022 No.34048101 >>34048065 Don’t mess with the blue woman, they will make anything sold out in a day

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:04:25 2022 No.34048106 >>34048022 What a weird time to go, but at least they're doing it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:04:48 2022 No.34048110 >>34048022 That sandwich taste stream is a good gimmick stream to follow up on the subway memes. But on the other hand, 4 collabs and 2 solo streams? How are Kronies holding up?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:04:59 2022 No.34048120 >>34048065 Who?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:05:12 2022 No.34048132 >>34048095 She was the worst Holo by far

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:05:12 2022 No.34048131 >>34048022 She doesn't want to do solo interaction streams with her chat now doesn't she?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:05:51 2022 No.34048148 >>34047931 She's on break

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:06:34 2022 No.34048165 >>34048110 Cucked and sad. I haven't seen any sex posting in their thread since the drama started that's how dire things are for them

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:06:42 2022 No.34048168 File: 763 KB, 1123x632, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34048120 Za blue

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:06:46 2022 No.34048170 >>34047683 Deserved, that's called karmic retribution.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:07:13 2022 No.34048177

>>34048120
MGO promotion, Suisei
>>34048065
Why does this keep happening?
I swear, cover needs to slip a little disclaimer that their estimates have been consistently lower than the actual amount of demand and that companies should prepare bigger batches of well, anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:07:28 2022 No.34048184 >>34048170 Pekora will see her next year on the anniversary

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:08:24 2022 No.34048203

>>34048132
Eh, she was fine. She never really found her streaming style and only started getting into it during the collab spam at the end, and her fucked up back means she can't do her long marathon streams anymore. She did what she could with what she had, but she just wasn't cut out for streaming

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:08:39 2022 No.34048213 >>34048165 >Meanwhile /ggg/ is just doing their own crazy things to the point where even paid shitposters can't get any traction

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:09:19 2022 No.34048230 >>34047161 Did anyone see what Filian's peak CCV was on her YouTube stream? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUhU2iKvn-Q

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:10:08 2022 No.34048246 File: 155 KB, 448x448, 1644495574786.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34048213 I still can't believe even paid shitposters gave up on that pedohole.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:10:55 2022 No.34048261 File: 2.88 MB, 1500x938, unknown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34048213 /ggg/ is too busy cunnyposting and training AI into making fanart of Gura

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:11:01 2022 No.34048268

>>34047930
>complaining about male collabs = no
why? You don't even watch EN as you said, if JPs suddenly started having weekly collabs with some Twitch faggots I'm sure you wouldn't like it either.
It's just a sudden change in HoloEN content and culture after two years and it's absurd that any complain gets shot down by twitter trannies who are more concerned about proving some point than actually watching streams.
>>34047888
>>34047971
What are you even talking about? I genuinely didn't see any sort of massive backlash of harassment campaign against Kronii. And if a single faggot complaining justifies Kronii lying to her fans and any sort of criticism being labeled as incel schizo unicorn shit then you need to seek help. Coco's chink campaign was way fucking worse and she still acted more mature than the retarded blue gook.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:11:29 2022 No.34048283 >>34048065 I'm half sure that holos could collab with some random shoe company and make them top tier brand for next month

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:11:44 2022 No.34048288 File: 774 KB, 1351x1630, v.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34047843 I was just a casual viewer, but yeah. Recent events have completely filtered me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:11:57 2022 No.34048295 >>34048283 Pekora literally wear a pair of Jordan on her outfit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:12:30 2022 No.34048308 PSYCHIATRY WEEKLY SERIES LETS GOOOOOO https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1574324295714873345?t=_GQgRmj6ezA4NrekySQeVQ&s=19

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:13:21 2022 No.34048327 >>34048077 belebable rrat

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:13:21 2022 No.34048328 File: 43 KB, 735x442, 1656093581877.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:13:24 2022 No.34048330 >>34048177 It's fucking mos burger, they know how to stock the appropriate amount. Hoshiyomis are just that unhinged because there's a merch lottery shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:13:24 2022 No.34048329 >>34048177 Isn't MGO a record label or something? How is a sandwich related to that?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:13:27 2022 No.34048335

>>34047696
>people had the right to complain about this without being labeled as schizo incels
Yeah, this is one thing I really hate about streamer culture in general is that they're put on such a pedestal by people above any other form of entertainment. Even if you consider a streamer "just an entertainer" and don't give a shit about any type of muh parasocial stuff, people still have the right to voice complaints about content they don't want to see, it's up to the streamer to do what they will with those complaints whether it be ignore them, respond, take them into account, but we should never be at a point where people who criticize or complain have to do so through an angry mob of redditors insulting them for daring to say they don't like something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:14:14 2022 No.34048348 >>34048213 /ggg/ somehow is the most persistent and most resilience fanbase on this board despite getting shit on the most... i kneel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:14:53 2022 No.34048362 >>34048203 >her fucked up back lol lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:15:21 2022 No.34048374 File: 2.73 MB, 1920x1080, 1664143180371176.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34048022 >all these collabs Literally a NijiEN schedule

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:15:21 2022 No.34048373 >>34048288 You should try being less affected by /vt/'s opinion

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:15:21 2022 No.34048371 >>34048065 that looks fuckin' terrible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:15:25 2022 No.34048376 >>34048348 I mean they are lolicon, they are mentally ill by default Even I eventually grew out of cunny

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:15:41 2022 No.34048385
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>>34048177
>cover
Toy Factory, this collab has nothing to do with Cover.
>>34048329
https://twitter.com/via_label/status/1574205158199742464
https://twitter.com/mos_burger/status/1574204606694965248

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:15:46 2022 No.34048386 >>34048348 isn't that /morig/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:16:04 2022 No.34048395 >>34048330 >Merch lottery Oh. Well this is what I get for not checking the full details, that makes sense >>34048329 Promotions are promotions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:16:18 2022 No.34048403 >>34048283 Didn't that happen to Watame? She ate at a place called Merino, talked about it on stream, fans flocked to the shop, and they ended up just having an official collab with Watame called Watamerino

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:17:05 2022 No.34048414 >>34048385 Fuck, Yea this would be separate from Cover. Egg face moment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:17:18 2022 No.34048421 >>34048362 Well, her RM has only streamed five times since the channel was created in early April, seems to check out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:17:25 2022 No.34048423 >>34048283 It's not without reason some of them are pretty cagey about even mentioning certain products they use

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:17:55 2022 No.34048436 >>34048421 She just made Genshin fanart.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:18:22 2022 No.34048446 >>34048373 It's less /vt/'s opinions and more being reminded of Kronii being a dumbass on Twitter. I still watch Bae and just ignore her Homostar collabs because she never tried to pick a fight with her fanbase

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:18:34 2022 No.34048451 >>34048421 iirc, need to check b2 as well since she said she'd start streaming there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:18:38 2022 No.34048455 >>34048421 She literally tweeted that she was healthy. She's just retarded and doesn't know how to balance her work with her streaming like Ina does.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:21:00 2022 No.34048507 File: 405 KB, 502x1135, TokaiTeio_AnimeFull.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34047161 I miss Teio so much...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:21:23 2022 No.34048518 >>34048330 800k sales what the fuck, I guess putting sailormoon and suisei for otaku works

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:22:17 2022 No.34048538

>>34048446
Yep, once again it comes down to BEING PROFESSIONAL about this.
In fact, most of the issues on the JP side also end up being about this.
Matsuri? Being a dumb girl and constantly canceling stuff just for more Apex and being at odds with her own fanbase over it.
Towa? Lied about the dudes being MANAGEMENT instead of just owning up and saying "Yes, these are my old FPS pals" which made the issue much bigger than it needed to be.
Oh and let's not forget about Rushia, who instead of sitting tight and letting the pros handle it, ran off to a dramanigger and nuked herself as a result.
Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head(I'd include the whole Taiwan dealio, but the factor of B2 being a malicious actor behind the scenes greatly muddies things), but really how you handle the problem is oftentimes the trigger for bigger issues than the problem itself

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:22:29 2022 No.34048542 >>34047540 >She should be fine moving forward, Unless Kronii changes her content, she'll still attract the same schizos. It's not like more normalfags will be attracted to her streams. Her content also filters them too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:22:58 2022 No.34048557 >>34048261 Shit. Great stuff

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:23:16 2022 No.34048561 >>34048436 >>34048455 I thought she was healthy, she just couldn't sit down for a long time and needs to take breaks

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:23:31 2022 No.34048566

>>34048268
>>34048040
Complaining as a first step is good, but if there is no reciprocation to it, then further complaints are a waste of your own time and effort that you could put into something else that satisfies your preference.
Moona is a good example here, she saw the first wave of complaints, apologized on a member stream, and hasn't had any fanbase troubles since.
There is no reciprocation from Kronii. She has decided that she's going to do this. So the only options you have are -
> shit up her chat, keep complaining, hoping she caves to (you)r pressure.
If she caves to ANY pressure, it will be pressure from the culturally dominant side (twitch parasites). You do not want anyone you like to be vulnerable to any kind of pressure. Even if she backtracks on this NOW of all times, the damage is already long done.
> move along, find something better to watch
Plenty of VTubers are out there who provide the CGDCT experience you need. HoloJP, anda lot of the other small corpos or indie groups going for that vibe exist.
And it will be a far better use of your own time as well. Other people's actions and behaviors are not something (You) can control. You can only control your reactions to said behavior.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:23:56 2022 No.34048576 >>34047305 Your data is ridiculously outdated

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:24:03 2022 No.34048578 >>34048403 Merino is a type of sheep.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:24:23 2022 No.34048582 >>34048578 It was a match made in heaven

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:25:53 2022 No.34048615 Can’t wait for the shitposting about peaks, combined CCV and so on from Sanas tower and Worms being the same day.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:27:22 2022 No.34048660

>>34048373
Not really. Even Tempus lied to their audience. Magni and Vesper had initially mentioned that they were fans of StarsJP and wanted to expand the Holostars Box as their main goal, but they broke their collab ban to collab with fucking HoloEN, and have had more HoloEN collabs than StarsJP collabs, making themselves a side-act to HoloEN instead of a pioneer branch.
Holostars brand is as shit as ever, and the first month of effort spend in building a fanbase for themselves have evaporated in two weeks, with the HoloEN fanbase (and more recently, the fujos) evicting the original brotuber fanbase.
Tempus is even playing into this nowadays, with more and more homo related jokes that didn't used to be a staple during their first month.
It's just not worth my time anymore. Plenty of other things I could be doing with my time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:27:58 2022 No.34048674 >>34048615 Yeah I don't know how that's gonna work in the same day. The Sana Tower doesn't have a set time limit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:29:20 2022 No.34048694 >>34048660 So you had unrealistic expectations

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:29:36 2022 No.34048702 File: 1.27 MB, 1339x868, 1655278510601.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Delta is playing Valorant on Twitch

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:29:54 2022 No.34048710 >>34048348 their number is legion.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:29:55 2022 No.34048711

>>34048335
Yeah, I see a lot of schizos in this place seething way too much at anime girls over the silliest fucking reasons. At the same time Twittertrannies seem to forget that this is a job and an extremely privileged one. It's extremely well paid, with a flexible schedules and on top of that their real life identity is well protected compared to other streamers. Some criticism over content or lack of professionality is absolutely well deserved.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:30:15 2022 No.34048717 I won't be surprised if it's only Bae and Fauna who will have a POV for the Sana tower exploration.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:30:58 2022 No.34048731 >>34048717 Irys usually has a POV for these things

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:31:05 2022 No.34048736

>>34048566
What's weird about the Kronii situation is, at first, everything was going pretty fine. Everyone complains about "Gabe" being schizo but all he did at first was write his complaint out in a fairly polite paragraph, even Kronii complimented that style of response after she read it and reprimanded people attacking others. She didn't "get it", but there was nothing uncivil about it and a compromise was worked out in the member's stream.
And then suddenly after her break, a complete about-face and passive aggressive tweet about how she can collab with whomever she wants and you deal with it, completely contrary to any civility she had shown before. Why? What reason was there to suddenly act like that?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:31:16 2022 No.34048741

>>34048660
Magni said he wanted to expand the Holostars brand, not be a fucking piss boy for Holostars JP. He attempted this by collabing with Twitch streamers. Which is an attempt, even if misguided. HoloJP is beyond saving, they don't even speak the same fucking language. As for the homo related jokes, it's all just bantz and literally only Magni does it. Call me when they're talking about sucking each other cocks and moaning like Vox and Mysta do. If you don't want to watch them anymore, fine, but don't operate under false pretenses.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:31:20 2022 No.34048744 >>34048702 >700 Why is she only twitch again?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:31:30 2022 No.34048746

>>34048566
>There is no reciprocation from Kronii.
Actually the whole problem was that it indeed got “reciprocation”.
Her first stream addressing it was the clusterfuck it was because she made it as the whole problem was “shipping”, and also she specifically said in so many words that “people shouldn’t be attacked when voicing discontent or having a different opinion”.
She clearly was trying to stay over the line without crossing it to any side.
Then she 180 on the issue, then 180 twice again for good measure.

Had she made that first stream addressing the issue
>guys, I’ll be collabing with Tempus, these streams will always be schedule so if it is not to your liking you know what streams to skip
there would be no pushback.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:31:37 2022 No.34048749 >>34048710 Empress Gura protects

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:31:50 2022 No.34048755 >>34048268 >What are you even talking about? Handful of her members saying really stupid shit like Gabe led to people painting with a wide brush against the more reasonable camp. Not responding to the rest of it since it's just you being a retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:31:58 2022 No.34048759 >>34048736 The tweet was the opposite of passive aggressive

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:32:31 2022 No.34048769 >>34048744 It has something to do with Valorant. She will stream on Youtube later https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7IfYZN3EOk

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:32:50 2022 No.34048776 >>34048660 >the first month of effort spend in building a fanbase for themselves have evaporated in two weeks Tempus got 10 times the numbers of starsJP usually get though? are you sure it's not an improvement?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:32:51 2022 No.34048777 >>34048288 >recent events Are you mentally ill?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:33:19 2022 No.34048786 >>34048741 Just wait for the Shoto collab. Magni and Shoto are gonna act like fags and /MANS/ is gonna melt down.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:33:24 2022 No.34048790 >>34048566 you can include Ame in the "her comments were more of an issue than the collabs" camp.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:33:28 2022 No.34048792 >>34048736 >Why? What reason was there to suddenly act like that? When in doubt, always blame Mori.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:34:03 2022 No.34048811 >>34048759 After much consideration, I decided that I will not argue with you on the specifics of why you're wrong. Thank you for understanding.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:34:49 2022 No.34048826 >>34048736 >Why? What reason was there to suddenly act like that? as usual she made a bunch of promises she couldn't keep (which was something she already did and had to adress) and had no other way out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:35:04 2022 No.34048836 >>34048790 Ame is 100% that bitch, don't bring her into this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:35:11 2022 No.34048840 >>34048578 I can not tell you how much I love my merino gear, was doubtful at first and only bought on sale but I'm convinced and will gladly pay full price if it's not in sale of course

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:35:12 2022 No.34048841 >>34047568 >7 small blue stars align >1 big star with Salami color So Hololive will get exactly 7 blue cunnies and they together will shit on Salami death corpse ? Is this some kind of prophecy ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:35:22 2022 No.34048847 >>34047614 thats why i told you guys, Vesper is the most dangerous one no broken young woman can resist a gentle father like figure. watch out for any EN3 girl who seems to have a daddy issue, high chance she might collab with vespie

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:35:25 2022 No.34048850 >>34048374 Ask for solo streams or watch someone else. If she's even streaming at all it's an improvement from what we were getting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:36:12 2022 No.34048875 >>34048746 yeah, it seems obvious to me that she did care about their opinion, she just didn't know how to handle it and how this would come off. (she might be autistic.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:36:42 2022 No.34048886 >>34048403 I don't know if fans flocked to the shop, but she did mention in her stream with Noel that she'd like to have a collab with them someday which led to it happening.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:37:00 2022 No.34048896 File: 1.17 MB, 4096x2378, 20220926_023640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >that schedule Holy fucking shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:37:26 2022 No.34048905 >>34048736 >after her break No, she already did a 180 on her stance from her reply to her comment on that clipper channel. The biggest mystery is why she did that unarchived member stream in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:37:49 2022 No.34048915 >>34048875 >she might be autistic Might is an understatement

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:37:51 2022 No.34048916 File: 207 KB, 601x985, 01-25 092022 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] One would expect Subaru to be first by a mile with her persona 4 streams but no wtf the Pecock is too strong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:38:07 2022 No.34048920 >>34048446 If you think that was picking a fight you need thicker skin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:38:09 2022 No.34048925 >2 threads of Kronii posting I know /infi/ and the rest of the board abandoned you sad fucks but there’s other places to go cry about shit than here. Jesus fuck this topic is beyond pathetic. No one cares anymore

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:38:16 2022 No.34048932 >>34048896 Why can't HoloEN have a schedule like this...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:38:25 2022 No.34048935 >>34048896 She deserves more success than Enna or even in her own gen, be more successful than Maria...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:38:26 2022 No.34048936 >>34048896 I respect the grind and hope she gets a following, that's all I can say of her

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:38:43 2022 No.34048946 >>34048905 >unarchived member stream in the first place woman moment of trying to have her cake and eat it too

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:39:05 2022 No.34048959 >>34048896 does she wanted to copy koyori/kaela schedule? i respect the hustle, but unfortunately she's in nijiEN...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:39:22 2022 No.34048963 >>34048932 They're allowed to be lazy whores

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:39:22 2022 No.34048962 >>34048836 >>34048790 - Ame comment was meant for >>34048538.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:39:33 2022 No.34048970 >>34048896 >No breaks What? She doesn't want to use the break and come back stream meta?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:39:39 2022 No.34048974 >>34048896 >Time for things to change... Handcam

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:39:57 2022 No.34048981 >>34048925 The sisters do, that's why it's always brought up

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:40:07 2022 No.34048983 >>34048935 Wasn't she the most popular Iluna member at debut? Is she just that bad of a streamer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:40:26 2022 No.34048993 >>34048916 she doesn't always get gold with Persona.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:40:34 2022 No.34048998 >>34048896 This is why I don't want to shit on her and maybe Aia despite her being a bitch on debut.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:40:55 2022 No.34049006 >>34048932 Scarle has a schedule like this because nobody wants to watch her and she needs to desperately farm as much supers and views as possible for relevance.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:40:57 2022 No.34049008
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>>34048741
>Which is an attempt, even if misguided
Terribly misguided

>it's all just bantz and literally only Magni does it.
>Call me when they're talking about sucking each other cocks and moaning
That’s just a rehash of the “Salome has a 20k floor”. They went from
>a standalone brotuber act
to
>a brotuber act that had to break collab ban earlier due to popular demand to collaborate with the girls
to
>a brotuber part of the whole #HoloPro ensemble
to
>a group of streamers that is trying to branch into the overall EN market by collabing with Twitch “stars”
to
>a group of streamers which gaybaits but still don’t talk about sucking cocks on stream at least yet

Big stress on the “yet” because he’s already fully pulled into Vox orbit and from the start too

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:41:00 2022 No.34049010

>>34048736
>>34048811
>>34048826
She realized doing that wasn't really want she wanted to do and that having to walk on eggshells for potential collabs or avoiding group events like Worms because people would sperg wasn't worth the stress. You sound like retards and it's obvious why she'd communicate in a clear-cut way how she want to move forward.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:41:32 2022 No.34049027 >>34048896 Is this what fear looks like?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:41:36 2022 No.34049028 How much time does Luca really need for this stream? He's been milking his fans for hours already. The same kind as when Vox had to do ASMr + Karaoke + goodbye zatsu. When are they gonna be ashamed from doing that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:41:39 2022 No.34049029 >>34048983 Debut, Maria mogged all of them par Ren

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:41:42 2022 No.34049031 >>34048983 Bad and boring. Half her content is aim at women and the other is aimed at men.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:41:43 2022 No.34049032 >>34048993 ? But she always gets above 40k on a 4hour+ stream, whereas Pekora does not with DQMJ2.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:41:57 2022 No.34049039
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>>34048983
it was 100% pre-debut hype off design alone. her debut was such a disaster itself due to internet and her content to my knowledge is not what coomer design chasers were after at all

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:42:11 2022 No.34049049 Schedule Sunday is my favorite day of the week

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:42:25 2022 No.34049054 >>34048896 Hopefully this is just her being passionate about streaming, not being forced by Paul Li to pursue certain milestones.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:42:43 2022 No.34049062 >>34048896 she need dem supas

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:43:01 2022 No.34049071 >>34049008 Magni is a literal faggot, I can't argue with you there just don't watch him. The rest of the boys tolerate his faggotry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:43:14 2022 No.34049077 >>34049039 Did the Debut 2.0 not save her? She got maybe half the numbers of her scuffed debut

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:43:35 2022 No.34049084 >>34049054 roru rumao, there had been 4-5 iluna members stream in JP last week. Not frequently, but it's way out of their schedule.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:43:38 2022 No.34049086 >>34048896 I don't think I've ever seen a thicker schedule

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:43:39 2022 No.34049087

>>34049010
I understand. I still think the way she handled it was poor. I'm of the opinion that if the opinion she's about-facing on was brought up in a member's stream to avoid potential controversy, the about-face should be in a member's stream too for the same reason. This issue doesn't concern every fucking retard on Twatter looking for good boy points.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:44:08 2022 No.34049096 >>34049008 You seem to keep focusing on Dez. Just don't watch him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:44:28 2022 No.34049109 >>34048896 How does NijiEN manage to find full-timers but HoloEN recruitment team can only find part-timers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:44:28 2022 No.34049108 >>34048702 damn that's like donut's ceiling during her diamond rank grind

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:44:42 2022 No.34049114 >>34049086 It pales in comparison to how massive Selen's is

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:45:10 2022 No.34049129 >>34049054 >>34049084 This sounds like the opposite situation of what Vesper said about his manager numberfagging

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:45:29 2022 No.34049135 >>34048916 Well she only get the Persona buff for 2 days per week

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:45:45 2022 No.34049142 >>34049071 I'm just glad he didn't end up becoming the ace of Tempus. Vesper turning out to be the most popular member even though he's just some old tech guy who mainly does zatsus was a nice surprise

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:46:12 2022 No.34049153 >>34048582 ("heaven" = board room.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:46:27 2022 No.34049161 >>34049109 tbf 3 of myth should theoretically be full-timers. Kiara does put in hours. Amelia is up and down, but what the fuck does Gura even do that isnt always just chumbud 1 year plans cope?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:46:40 2022 No.34049163 >>34049109 Hiring Mumei and Sana was stupid, but I guess they had no choice. I mean just look at Ethyria and iLuna, they're skimming the bottom of the barrel at this point. Nobody talented wants to be a vtuber.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:46:53 2022 No.34049166 >>34049032 Yes but Persona is Subarus strongest content while DQMJ2 is Pekoras weakest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:47:20 2022 No.34049185 >>34049054 Proof of NijiEN management micromanaging the streamers to reach certain milestones?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:47:22 2022 No.34049186 File: 1.92 MB, 1170x2122, 8F4F5AAE-3857-4346-984D-485E19B6CE1C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Current ongoing streams + their ccv taken from vrabi Not much going on right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:47:37 2022 No.34049193 >>34048896 if only she's good at games and have good bants

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:47:39 2022 No.34049194 >>34049142 Unfortunately Cover has a tendency to not try to cast and copy their best performing talents for some fucking reason.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:47:52 2022 No.34049198

>>34049010
>minecraft and offcollab fiasco force her to make a member stream where she admits her mistakes and says she'll try to be more honest and better at communicating with her fans
>homos debut and collabs with them
>makes a member stream saying she understands her fans and will try to cool it down with the collabs
>makes a point about even avoiding Twitter interactions
>comments on Vesper's underwear the very next day
>all while having some retarded menhera breakdown on a clipper channel while completely missing the point
>also has a 1 on 1 collab with Vesper despite both of them claiming they'll only join if invited
stop being fucking retardedm she dug her own hole and realize she had no other way of getting out. It's not like she could make yet another member stream addressing her lies in the other two member streams.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:47:53 2022 No.34049199 >>34048998 No Aia deserves to get shit on. Scarle is OK but her voice is dog shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:47:55 2022 No.34049202 >>34049163 She has to gather the courage to stream, like the the spirit bomb

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:48:21 2022 No.34049219 >>34049163 Mumei's a good streamer and gets good numbers, but her being a student means she's always busy

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:48:27 2022 No.34049221

>>34049163
you say that when gura actually joined myth. An experienced singer+VA took the risk to join the first EN vtuber group with hopes of 100k subs by the end of the year only to be the biggest fad in 2020 for anime. Pretty sure cover could find someone with moderate talents and groom them to be big.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:48:29 2022 No.34049222 >>34049109 It doesn’t matter how many hours you stream if nobody wants to watch you and Scarle is in serious danger of falling into having a 3view average.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:49:27 2022 No.34049247

>>34049071
>The rest of the boys tolerate his faggotry.
My criticism of him is not the faggotry. Astel is my favorite StarsJP and he stated he’s bisexual and I don’t give a fuck, he can shoot niggers on APEX like a genius and make it entertaining too (see: Mad Maggie arc).
My criticism of Magni in particular but of all of Tempus by contact is simple:
>they were awarded a branch of an existing and established brand to be the pioneer caretakers
>they are doing the OPPOSITE of what kept the brand afloat and thriving, in an attempt of inclining themselves on the cheap at the expense of the rest of the brand
They could have had success with more hard work involved but they’re just thinking they can shortcut and “beat the system” by breaking convention.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:49:29 2022 No.34049248 >>34049163 Sana >Nepo hire Mumei >Big following and Gura 2.0 vibe They absolutely went lax on hiring the girls

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:49:32 2022 No.34049253 File: 602 KB, 3500x3500, 20220926_024841.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34049071 Magni is the gay friend you keep around to dress up as a girl and give you and the boys head.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:49:32 2022 No.34049250 >>34049186 who are those two above shien? what corpo are they in?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:49:47 2022 No.34049262 >>34049194 Didn't even try to get a cunny streamer for Council despite Gura being a runaway success. Every company would have at LEAST one loli after that

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:50:14 2022 No.34049274 >>34049163 Enna is way better than Mumei, she should have been in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:50:41 2022 No.34049283 >>34049163 sana was a nepo hire I dont exactly think mumei was the greatest hire but she can get decent numbers if she wants to and sells the most merch in council so why not

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:50:46 2022 No.34049284 >>34049262 >Every company would have at LEAST one loli Every gen needs one loli.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:50:48 2022 No.34049287 >>34049250 Forte (white hair) and Yui (brown hair) from Neoporte. In other words, they’re Hal’s kids

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:50:51 2022 No.34049289 >>34049006 I mean there should be a good middle point between Kaela type streamer and Gura type streamer

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:51:00 2022 No.34049294 >>34049262 >Every company would have at LEAST one loli after that You want to accelerate the Cunny?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:51:01 2022 No.34049295 >>34049247 So you're a StarsJP fag who's butthurt that Tempus didn't go full saviorfag for JP, gotcha.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:51:09 2022 No.34049298 >>34049086 HoloX first week was crazy

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:51:13 2022 No.34049299 >>34049221 >An experienced singer+VA Wasn't Gura just a shitposter who was bordering on being a 3view because of her inconsistent stream schedules?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:51:28 2022 No.34049303 >>34049222 She already has 3 view average alongside Aia

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:51:39 2022 No.34049308 >>34049221 Describing her as an experienced singer+VA is a bit generous. She was a meme gremlin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:51:55 2022 No.34049314 >>34049274 mumei or irys, make up your mind

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:52:25 2022 No.34049326 >>34049314 Both are true

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:52:44 2022 No.34049334 >>34049250 Hals' vtubers in Neoporte

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:52:44 2022 No.34049335 >>34049303 Oh…

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:52:48 2022 No.34049338 >>34049221 >An experienced singer+VA Anon she's not that, she really like to sing and do some VA work for her friend group but i wouldn't call her like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:52:51 2022 No.34049339 >Still no EN hags What the fuck is Cover doing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:53:05 2022 No.34049344 >>34048932 If there's anyone in EN3 with that thick of schedule on debut, she will be the hero of EN. No joke

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:53:32 2022 No.34049359

>>34049163
I genuinely don't get why people target Mumei for comments like this yet conveniently ignore Laplus on the other side.

This is how the topic always goes:
>Laplus is lazy and doesn't stream, and has essentially used Hololive to promote her rm
>Yeah
>..
>Mumei is busy and has to miss days streaming
>It was a fucking MISTAKE of cover to hire her and a failure in scouting. Fucking cover

Like what? I don't get it. And Mumei's always been pretty strong. She streams a decent amount given her position and outside of overlap she's always been able to at least get some eyes watching.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:53:47 2022 No.34049368 >>34049344 rye...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:54:04 2022 No.34049378 >>34049339 Do Western hags even want to be anime girl streamers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:54:07 2022 No.34049379 >>34049335 Where were you? They both drop to sub 500 ccv even

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:54:10 2022 No.34049380 >>34049071 sexual orientation has little to do with faggotry.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:54:27 2022 No.34049391

>>34049338
You can be an experienced singer without being a professional. Experienced and professional are two different words, they're not even synonyms. Technically speaking even I could call myself an experienced singer because I've been doing it as a hobby for years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:55:07 2022 No.34049410 >>34049379 You got a median ccv chart? I wanna see how everyone stacks up now

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:55:11 2022 No.34049412 >>34049299 >stream schedules What schedule? Her main content had been shitposting not streaming.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:55:24 2022 No.34049422

>>34049087
I imagine with the clips and all the member stream leaks that happened she felt she may as well just say it on Twitter to avoid people trying to misrepresent to the public the things behind a paywall. Especially when a lot of her fans that heard that stuff weren't members. May as well just tell all of them. It's also doubly convenient in that Cover could also publicly reiterate their position that talents choose how they run their channel's content.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:55:32 2022 No.34049427 >>34049359 It's because there simply aren't enough bodies around in HoloEN. JP can tolerate slackers and low-stream counts from individuals more due to having way more people around. That's it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:55:44 2022 No.34049431 >>34049049 but it's Monday.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:55:59 2022 No.34049436 File: 96 KB, 262x360, 798.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34049368 nigga some guy posted Ryes stats before she had like 80 hours streamed over 3 months, in a way that'd be a perfect fit for HoloEN

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:56:09 2022 No.34049441 >>34049412 She had a Twitch account she streamed on once in a blue moon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:56:10 2022 No.34049442 >>34049378 Some of them for sure

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:56:32 2022 No.34049454

>>34049295
Anon, you’re not on twitter or Reddit, people won’t uptweet or upvote your post just because you think you got a “discussion ending” one liner ad hominem “gotcha”.
There is plenty of criticism about both Magni and Tempus, criticism that won’t go away because you “disqualify” the person making it. Again, this is not reddit or twitter, people won’t agree with you and disagree with the other party just because you accuse them of something

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:56:52 2022 No.34049461 >>34049359 dont get me wrong, I love mumei, but there are only 10 ENs atm, they need people who are able to stream full time

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:56:55 2022 No.34049465 >>34049359 Laplus is more entertaining.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:57:07 2022 No.34049472 >>34049436 She wasn't motivated by money, then, when money is involved, she'd be motivated

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:57:25 2022 No.34049482 >>34049436 Yeah but Rye is boring and talentless. Even more so than the most boring and talentless EN member currently, which was Sana but now it's probably Mumei

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:58:05 2022 No.34049496 >>34049287 >>34049334 i see. thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:58:06 2022 No.34049497 >>34049359 >yet conveniently ignore Laplus on the other side. They don’t. She gets her fair share of criticism. It is just that her gen has Koyori, putting out enough hours and content for both of them while Council has…. Sana

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:58:15 2022 No.34049501 Desu being light on streaming isn't the problem itself, it's being light on content Sora in early days did shitton of collabs with other agencies and was shitting out songs at fast rate, EN meanwhile has total of two girls with more than one orisong

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:58:21 2022 No.34049506 >>34049186 Man, even when bossu is just farming the event he’s still buffed by fgo

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:58:37 2022 No.34049515 >>34049454 Anon, all I'm saying is that it's not worth continuing this discussion since you're obviously biased and arguing in bad faith. No point in trying to change your mind when it's set in stone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:58:37 2022 No.34049516 I wish there is at least one good singer in EN3 and I wish she will do a karaoke stream regularly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:58:44 2022 No.34049519 >>34049339 Western hags is full of Karen, you don't want that

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:58:47 2022 No.34049521 >>34049359 because this place doesn't actually care about holox despite trying to pretend they're different than reddit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:59:06 2022 No.34049532 >>34049441 was like a 500~ view back in late 2019 before vtubing had its boom in 2020. Ironmouse back then was a 2view

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:59:35 2022 No.34049544 >>34049359 both are lazy whores that haven't even come close to fulfilling their potential

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:59:41 2022 No.34049549 >>34048538 Ame, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:59:45 2022 No.34049555 >>34049472 The only good holos are the ones who don't stream for the money.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:59:47 2022 No.34049557

>>34048694
Not really.
I simply wanted them to be the HoloMyth of StarsJP.
Not in terms of numbers, obviously, but in terms of that early culture they had. 4 adventurers, against the odds, holding the banner of HoloStars high as their own thing and building a Box of their own.
Instead they just became side characters in HoloEN's story.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:59:58 2022 No.34049563 PEKORA IS SEXY

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:59:58 2022 No.34049562 >>34048423 Rushia mentioning a type of candy she wanted to buy only to have her fans buy all of the stock before she made her order Nene mentioned her perfume once and it became second most sold one for that day

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:00:39 2022 No.34049578 >>34049359 There are tons of criticism against Lap on /hlg/ since they can discuss roommate freely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:00:46 2022 No.34049583 >>34049454 just ignore that guy, most tempissfag are hugboxxer you either get called schizo or unicorn or JP beggar for criticizing them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:00:52 2022 No.34049584 >>34049557 So are you saying that you wanted them to have idol journey?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:01:02 2022 No.34049586 >>34049391 The point is experienced singer has never been the thing people know her rm for and never her main content. And no, when people talk about her song they talk about it being a meme, not how well she sing it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:01:02 2022 No.34049587
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>>34048736
>And then suddenly after her break, a complete about-face and passive aggressive tweet about how she can collab with whomever she wants and you deal with it, completely contrary to any civility she had shown before.
>Why? What reason was there to suddenly act like that?
winner winner
chicken dinner

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:01:17 2022 No.34049592
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>>34049163
>Nobody talented wants to be a vtuber
you don't need to. Look at Fauna, she was hired for her ASMR content yet it turns out she's a genuinely funny streamer with decent straming hours. She can't even sing and her ASMR sucks yet she's arguably the best Council member rn.
Sana on the other hand was a relatively big name as an artist but ended up being the worst HoloEN hire.
Just find someone with a cute voice who isn't a complete menhera retard and has some decent working ethic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:01:19 2022 No.34049593 >>34049501 Quality over quantity, all of EN's songs are doing great, far better than 90% of JP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:01:37 2022 No.34049604 >>34049378 Some of them for sure, maybe not as much as in JP but i can definitely imagine some people of that age being interested while also being of a somewhat sound mind.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:01:53 2022 No.34049612

So overall who are the winners and losers in this homo drama?
Big winner Kiara/Fauna.
Slightly winner Bae.
Slightly loser Ame.
Big loser Mori/Kronii
Biggest loser Homos.
Others just on the neutral but HoloEN box surely takes some hit and probably in the loser side also.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:01:58 2022 No.34049616 >>34049359 >ignore Laplus you're clearly looking at the wrong places hope she'll be more consistent when she returns

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:02:11 2022 No.34049622 >>34049555 And which are those?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:02:54 2022 No.34049637 >>34049592 >her ASMR sucks Are we talking about the same Fauna here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:03:51 2022 No.34049667 >>34049622 Most of EN sans Kiara, all of ID, Sora and Fubuki.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:03:52 2022 No.34049668 >>34049557 Myth didn't build a box you retard. They got the massive EOP and clipfag audience that Hololive cultivated. Alter your expectations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:04:14 2022 No.34049679 >>34049637 nta but I dislike fauna asmr as well

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:04:18 2022 No.34049682 >>34049637 she needs better soundproofing. theres an ASMR where I can literally hear traffic

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:04:34 2022 No.34049688 >>34049637 Yes. She is awful at ASMR man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:04:36 2022 No.34049690 >>34049612 It's shocking how Bae is somehow uninvolved in all this homo drama considering she's one of the most open about supporting the homos

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:04:39 2022 No.34049691 >>34049637 NTA, but yeah, Fauna's ASMR is aggressively average and she's probably the worst of the ASMR artist in hololive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:05:07 2022 No.34049709 >>34048776 Yes, and now those numbers are getting churned with a completely different audience, which is what I addressed in the second half. HoloENfags will never watch StarsJP. Tempus' original audience probably would have.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:05:27 2022 No.34049720 >>34049668 Cover didn't expect them to be anything more than 3views you retard, they had to succeed and capture their own audience due to their sheer charisma

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:05:29 2022 No.34049722 >>34049359 mumei would've been a great hire if they had more en members

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:05:35 2022 No.34049725 >>34049612 Big Loser: Your moms cunt LMAO

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:05:39 2022 No.34049726 >>34049637 Yes? Is Fauna's the first ASMR you have ever heard?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:06:39 2022 No.34049749

>>34049583
yesterday there's anon on /stars/ who raise valid concern for tempus direction, hell they didnt even attacking tempus just mild dissatisfaction at best & plenty of anon agree with them.
Somehow still get called as schizo and discord raider, it just funny how tempusfag has a lot hugboxxer. it's like you can't criticize them

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:06:50 2022 No.34049753 >>34049691 is she? some of the jps asmrs are literally just whispering

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:06:58 2022 No.34049759 >>34049667 >Watame >Streams for money

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:07:14 2022 No.34049764

>>34049436
It's mostly because she's balancing irl shit with her streaming job and pressure from parents to "make something of yourself".
Guarantee you that once a well dressed EN manager visits their home, and shake their parents' hands to congratulate them, and then see the big money roll in after a month, their tune will change.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:07:15 2022 No.34049765 Guys Pekora Clips fucking did it Dude already get to 5 digits video view after just 28 clips posted and 2 fucking thousands subs He get more clip view than his subs

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:08:02 2022 No.34049787 >>34048998 Aia is still doing "they/them" shit ON STREAM, so no pity from me. Let her choke on that juice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:08:04 2022 No.34049789 >>34049587 This is the most retarded attempt at deflection I’ve ever seen. If Mori paid you rent you could probably just start your own Hololive at this point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:08:16 2022 No.34049793 >>34049720 I don't give a shit what Cover expected from them when they started recruiting. Hololive's EN audience was massive in summer 2020. That's a fucking box, retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:08:24 2022 No.34049795 File: 217 KB, 393x385, Die Retard.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34049667 Ogey ENshart.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:08:33 2022 No.34049798 >>34049749 Looking at the numbers there's nothing wrong with Tempus's direction. Only people who are trying to kick up a fuss about it are nijiniggers in disguise. Are you one?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:08:33 2022 No.34049800 >>34049765 I've been getting more recommendations from his channel as of late, that Moona clip really did him good

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:08:36 2022 No.34049802

>>34049515
>since you're obviously biased and arguing in bad faith
Anon, the fact I mentioned I like Astel does not mean (and I quote from >>34049295) that I am a “StarsJP fag who's butthurt that Tempus didn't go full saviorfag for JP”.
That’s your attempt to “win the argument” big disqualifying the other party. It might work on twitter and Reddit but not in this place.

My criticism about Tempus has nothing to do with StarsJP, it has to do with Tempus and their lack of focus on their own growth strategy and their reliance on others to try to dig themselves out of the mud hole they’re in.
Think about it: from the very start Magni bitched about “people paying attention to numbers” and shut one fan down for a benign compliment on his 100k(150k?) milestone.
Both himself and Regis chose the debuffiest type of content to be their first month content.
Now they’re stuck with regards to their “signature content” (other than Vesper and talking, they have none) and are going for the “tag along for growth” strat.
Trying so with the Holo girls was already a mistake, trying with Twitch retards will be even a bigger mistake with all of the baggage they bring.
Magni got fucking lucky the Twitch Armageddon drama happened because 39_daph was already getting ready to make
>Incel weebs are attacking me because I collab with Hololive
as her main content.

There is nothing in my criticism that is about StarsJP and nothing about anything but Tempus

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:09:06 2022 No.34049813 >>34049690 Because bae wants to collab with the stars (both en and jp) for the sake of forging friendships with them, not because she wants to “stick it to the haters/incels” or to spite her audience

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:09:14 2022 No.34049815 >>34049753 You can literally hear the fucking traffic. You spent 10k on a KU100 you can afford soundproofing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:09:22 2022 No.34049819 >>34049667 >Gura >doesn't stream for money very good joke

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:09:30 2022 No.34049820 >>34049753 I mean among the one who are somewhat seriously doing ASMR (Noel, Choco, Okayu, etc)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:09:34 2022 No.34049823 >>34049690 She doesn't have mire of deceit around herself

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:09:36 2022 No.34049824 >>34049764 >Guarantee you that once a well dressed EN manager visits their home You need to let it go.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:09:43 2022 No.34049829

>>34049584
NTA but pretty much anyone who's exposed to Holo want that shit for their streamer (unless they're in dire need of financial improvement, which no one who has the Holo part in their name is). I don't watch those fag but even then still i don't understand why did they have to build their legacy from leeching this much. You got at least 1k viewer whenever you stream, the top 0.1% of streaming, very well off that out earn most doctors, all you need to do is improve your own content and more people will eventually come.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:10:05 2022 No.34049838 >>34049819 If she did stream for money, she'd actually stream

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:10:07 2022 No.34049842 >>34049765 who?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:10:15 2022 No.34049849 >>34049501 Mumei (and to a lesser extent, Fauna) make some shitposts, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:10:15 2022 No.34049850 >>34049819 >Gura >Doesn’t stream

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:10:31 2022 No.34049860 File: 269 KB, 839x679, 4961964.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] man, i saw the noel thread earlier, if there was an EN girl with that kind of side hustle what would vt even be like.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:10:33 2022 No.34049863

>>34049359
I mean, Laplus makes it pretty clear that she has a bad constitution.
Also there's no dearth of choice when it comes to HoloJP. If Lap is not streaming, I'll watch whoever else is, because one of them will always be streaming in Japanese prime time.
That's not the case for HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:10:34 2022 No.34049864 >>34049690 Bae was already known to interact with JP homos, plus while her initial tackling of the topic was pretty tone deaf she apparently backpedaled on that, and isn't she one of the ENs who streams consistently and isn't a mega cunt to her chat?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:10:39 2022 No.34049868

>>34049722
I think cover failing to push out more EN members is largely to blame for that though. I think everyone here agrees that between council and an eventual EN3, They've been horrendously slow. Council should've come out like, fucking 6-8 months after Myth, not almost an entire year. And now we're in an even more pathetic spot.

We've yet to see EN3 for what's coming up to be 14 months!!! That's about as long as it took HoloX to come out after gen 5, except JP already had like 30 fucking members, which was already 3 TIMES the amount of members EN has.

This slow, drawn out expansion has severely hampered EN, outside all the bullshit issues Youtube seems to have thrown their way over the 2 years too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:11:02 2022 No.34049886 >>34049501 > EN meanwhile has total of two girls with more than one orisong I'm not sure if you forgot about IRyS or Kiara

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:11:06 2022 No.34049888 >>34049820 you mean like the ones that buy equipment? i don't think she can be worse than koyo, that woman can't into audio

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:11:09 2022 No.34049891 >>34049838 She stream the least possible to collect her paycheck

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:11:11 2022 No.34049892 >>34049764 >a well dressed EN manager Unless you mean JP one the best you are getting is zoom call with some dude wearing dirty shirt

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:11:30 2022 No.34049897 Be a member now, listen to my faqing cute wolfu waifu's ASMR's

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:11:50 2022 No.34049904 en3 doko

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:12:16 2022 No.34049921 >>34049501 they're not all singers, Anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:12:17 2022 No.34049924 File: 149 KB, 1280x939, median 14th en.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34049410 This is from 14th, but it's probably gonna be the same towards the end of the month.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:12:31 2022 No.34049931 File: 559 KB, 1079x592, 11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >holos avoiding overlap with lobel's 3d >autistic onion just streams over it rab u onyon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:12:36 2022 No.34049934 >>34049798 Looking only at numbers without taking into account things surrounding them is how we got capitalism and endless growth memes anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:12:38 2022 No.34049938 >>34049860 Glad you brought it up, as I remembered that I need to get a magnet for that, just saw the clips and by Allah, I was drained for the whole afternoon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:13:07 2022 No.34049945 >>34049800 He successfully infiltrated the algorithm, along with Vtuber Fan \| Pekora & Hololive But if you look up “Pekora” on YouTube right now, Vtuber Fan channel is still stronger than him but he have more entries in the algorithm

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:13:10 2022 No.34049948 >>34048925 see >>34049186

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:13:17 2022 No.34049953 >>34049815 I like field recordings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:13:19 2022 No.34049957 >>34049924 When does CCV table anon post? I've missed most of his September updates.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:13:56 2022 No.34049973 >>34049378 Would Juniper Actias fit in as a Holo?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:13:57 2022 No.34049974 >>34049924 G R I M

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:13:59 2022 No.34049978 >>34049501 I know it doesn't really matter but mumei and bae have mentioned working on new originals recently

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:14:02 2022 No.34049979 >>34049931 nice, at least now I have something to watch

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:14:15 2022 No.34049987 >>34049819 If she cares about money then she will stream everyday. If the stats Ludwig told us was right then Gura could easily get $1000-$4000 ad money just from one stream without counting Superchat

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:14:32 2022 No.34049994

>>34049798
>oh you must be X
way to go to prove my point, retard.
have you ever thought some people can dislike something without means they're hating them or from opposite sides?
funny you mention number yet their collab with non holo get dogshit number and their collab with hologirls doesnt translate well with their growth, fuck off.
yeah let see how will that translate on long term. Despite their data, their number is bleeding little by little.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:14:47 2022 No.34049998 >>34049886 IRyS... To be fair Cover does too

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:15:07 2022 No.34050007

>>34049868
Yeah no shit. Things were already pretty GRIM a few months ago with talents like Ina starting to burn out and Gura barely streaming. Plus after the offcollab arc there wasn't much to look forward to.
Tempus debut was unironically the best time to actually release EN3, especially while riding on the Sana graduation buff.
Even if you wanna argue that Tempus didn't kill HoloEN with a bunch of drama the fact that they brought zero new fans and hype into this branch is pretty obvious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:15:44 2022 No.34050023 >>34048308 >>34049198 the psych stream was actually a cool idea. (I haven't watched it yet, it might be bad.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:15:55 2022 No.34050029 >>34049957 Whenever the month ends and half the month after the prior month so expect the next one at the beginning of October

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:16:01 2022 No.34050031 >>34049868 Something tells me they count Tempus as EN3

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:16:01 2022 No.34050032

>>34049584
I suppose that's what it amounts to in the end, so yeah.

>>34049668
you new or something? Myth was quite a big deal back in the day. The amount of fanworks they got was fucking insane. The vibe worked because it was just the 5 of them and you could tell they were close, and they had stories small and big going for them throughout their first year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:16:02 2022 No.34050033 >>34049994 (me) *despite there's data fuck autocorrect man

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:16:10 2022 No.34050035 >>34049593 >>34049921 >Missing the point >>34049978 I have high hopes for Bae's, her music tastes are pretty good

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:16:32 2022 No.34050046 >>34049904 Next year

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:16:52 2022 No.34050051 >>34049987 Ludwig might know what the stats are but people shouldn't look to him for advice. He's not really a streamer, and he's more about money than the content and his strategy is to do as little as possible for the most money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:16:55 2022 No.34050054 >>34049690 Bae has had more StarsJP collabs than Tempus btw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:17:01 2022 No.34050056 >>34049987 She doesn't stream everyday because she's just lazy. I didn't say she's greey and wants the highest amount of money possible. She wants to do as little as possible to get her paycheck, but she's in exclusively for the money

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:17:22 2022 No.34050063 >>34049973 >another deadbeat The curse of hiring indies

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:17:55 2022 No.34050083

How many times numberanons gonna be wrong again? You guys are already wrong about luxiem and holoen. Let's face it, myth is reclining because of the walled garden approach clearly isn't working like the jps.

>noooooo tempiss can't collab with the girls
>noooo tempiss can't collab with the twitch streamers.

Their subs aren't even growing that well. Keeping them in the walled garden might turn them into 3view faster instead of letting them try to connect with the communities outside. This thread should be praising magni for leeching from shoto. If this was pekora leeching from hikakin, people here would call her based despite hikakin can be pretty cringe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:17:57 2022 No.34050084 >>34049378 There was that one who had her audition video leaked a while back

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:18:04 2022 No.34050089 >>34049924 How the fuck is Bae the third ranked Holo and why is only Gura above 10k

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:18:41 2022 No.34050105 >>34049924 >Mori is now the Runt of EN and even Kiara beats her >Bae is now the third most popular EN member what kind of fucking clown reality I live in lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:18:43 2022 No.34050106 >>34049690 bae doesn't antagonize her fans and genuinely huge fans of stars, also the way she handled male-female collab is very professional

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:19:04 2022 No.34050117 >>34049924 >Mori at 4k Holy shit, she fell off

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:19:11 2022 No.34050123 >>34050089 she's further down now, this was way earlier in the month

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:19:20 2022 No.34050127 >>34049578 there's also plenty on this board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:19:34 2022 No.34050137 >>34050105 Magic Susan CCV numbers aren't a sign of popularity

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:20:20 2022 No.34050157 >>34049924 i am so glad to see bae and fauna incline. they deserve it

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:20:20 2022 No.34050156

>>34050007
Yeah at least for JP's case it's like every fucking day is an event. You got 30+ anniversaries, 30+ 3D lives, 30+ possible bday lives, sponsorship event streams, this and that, this and that
On EN's side it's like oh.. cool, a birthday I guess? A 3D live that had to be cut in half because Cover couldn't provide more resources to the biggest vtuber on the planet? Council has yet to get new outfits while HoloX has 3D and like 3-4 new 3D outfits that can all be used on Home3D as well.

There's just been absolutely no hype about anything for EN. Fans can't get happy, they don't have things to look forward to because they don't happen. I get EN should be "better streamers" but the lack of members puts too much strain on the already existing ones yknow

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:20:23 2022 No.34050159 File: 431 KB, 750x750, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34050083 Oboretai good work, you've been at it non stop, the mango pie is good

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:20:31 2022 No.34050162

>>34049860
Board would be on fire constantly calling her a slut, a whore, that she should graduate, etc.
Of course, only if she was in HoloEN, otherwise Nijiniggers would stay dead silent if it was a NijiEN talent (actually are they even allowed a side hustle like that???) and HoloEN watchers would just ignore it because "not our problem". Wouldn't stop the dramasisters from trying to start shit though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:20:40 2022 No.34050168 >>34047589 Honorary NijiEN kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:21:22 2022 No.34050187 >>34049924 so i saw mumei's shit numbers this month and went to check some stuff out on vstats. Currently she's having her worst month since ccvid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:21:24 2022 No.34050191 >>34050137 inhales copium

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:22:31 2022 No.34050216

>>34050156
That's all on Cover for being retarded. Imagine if the resources they wasted on scouting and hiring gen 5 and gen 6 went into making sure they had everything an EN branch would ever need including having 30 members within 2 years. In the end they killed the EN market while debuting two flop gens in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:23:01 2022 No.34050233 >>34049957 > When does CCV table anon post End of the month for sure, randomly across the month

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:24:06 2022 No.34050260 >>34050187 what the fuck happened, the last few months were a 11k, 3 9ks in a row and an 11k again, and this month is a sub 8k

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:24:34 2022 No.34050272 >>34050157 unfortunately for you fauna has reclined since last month and with bae's recent streams she's way down on the list rn

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:24:41 2022 No.34050277

>>34050156
The only way EN can survive is a hard break away from Myth. They were the first, that's great, but they're all mentally checked out and the precedent they set is weighing the branch down and should be completely discarded. Rapid-fire debut EN3 AND EN4 and spam content until people no longer think of holoEN as the Myth branch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:25:03 2022 No.34050284 >>34050083 >This thread should be praising magni for leeching from shoto. I don't think anyone can outleech shoto

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:25:26 2022 No.34050296 >>34050272 So what's the current HoloEN ranking? I just wanna know who the top 3 are, aside from Gura because no fucking shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:25:47 2022 No.34050305 >>34048165 That still happens but isn't as intense as before, quite sad to see the death of a thread unfold desu even if there are a lot of schizos there

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:25:57 2022 No.34050306 >>34050277 Yeah like, at least JP have the whole First Army to rely on, EN only have Myth

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:26:33 2022 No.34050325 >>34050296 Gura, ina and last one is a toss up between fauna and mumei. I'll give it to fauna because mumei has been piss tier dogshit numbers this month.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:26:41 2022 No.34050327 >>34050284 kek, that’s the worst part. It is more likely that Shoto will absorb the disillusioned part of Tempus audience that likes gay baiting than the other way around

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:26:48 2022 No.34050330 >>34049086 Anon doesn't know Choco back in the day, this is nothing burger. Nobody can top that woman when she goes full autism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:27:15 2022 No.34050349 File: 1.66 MB, 2048x2048, kronii pepe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] EN and CN are dying, they keep spamming big collabs to make their numbers look half good, but its clear to see on their solo numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:27:16 2022 No.34050351 >>34050277 That would need JP management to get their heads out of their asses and stop siphoning EN's resources away to holos that don't deserve it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:27:20 2022 No.34050354 >>34050305 Probably Ame with the collab spam hosting. Fauna is still #2 though with the others doing even worse than her

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:27:36 2022 No.34050360 >>34050277 It's insane how people still consider HoloEN the Myth branch considering how Ame, Mori and Kiara have some of the lowest ccv in the branch

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:27:58 2022 No.34050374 File: 14 KB, 93x108, d.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34049789 > t.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:28:25 2022 No.34050387 >>34050360 CCV is a retarded metric and no one uses it outside of this shitty thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:28:56 2022 No.34050399 >>34050360 Gura and Mori alone offset all the bad number of the other 3 Just like how PekoMari and Rushia used to make up for Noel and Flare lack of numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:29:14 2022 No.34050405 >>34050325 Ina's numbers are always interesting to me because she always seemed to be in the background. She very rarely collabs and is usually off doing her own thing away from everyone else

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:29:51 2022 No.34050431 >>34049892 I mean, HoloJP already has taken over EN recruitment since December, which is why EN3 is taking so long in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:29:57 2022 No.34050434 >>34050387 What should streamer use then? Mind you XQC channel have less sub than a bunch of Holos It might be wrong but calling it useless is even more wrong

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:30:01 2022 No.34050435

my personal rrat on EN3 being late is because there's gazillion applicant and cover had to look every applicant.
people forgot that the reason why JP branch has a lot member was because they're not popular until in late 2019 and 2020. thus their applicant is still small (hell gamer is just fubuki nepo and most early holomem were being poached).
the EN circumstance is different because they already got massive popularity from myth and get much wider exposure and council probably get hired when the applicant isn't too massive.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:30:28 2022 No.34050443

>>34050360
Mori just had a concert, an album, and she have her music career
Ame is the creatividad and organize events.
Kiara's just kind of there, but even then, her music mogs pretty much everything council released be it cover or OG and she organizes some stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:30:45 2022 No.34050451 >>34050434 Don't reply to retards. If CCV doesn't matter there's no point in being a livestreamer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:30:59 2022 No.34050463 >>34050435 Even more than NijiEN 30k applicants?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:31:02 2022 No.34050465 >>34047568 Omg all you trash zoomers need to do your anime reps This is a hokuto no ken thing, if you can see the red star you will die soon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:31:42 2022 No.34050480 >>34050431 Was that when Omega got fired?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:32:17 2022 No.34050489

>>34050159
I hate oboretai for making a fuss about holojp girls. I am a last samurai and i don't even watch tempiss. I just dislike anons here who want tempiss to stick to the walled garden approach when the result they gonna get is slow recline due to casual viewers leaving like salome and holoen. Let's face it, the only way to incline for en is there is a viral moment or they try to network with other type of audience to increase their exposure. It is also why large twitch streamers do react content and constantly network with each other even if they hate each other behind the scenes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:32:24 2022 No.34050493 >>34050451 CCV matters, but comparing CCVs when we know it's a broken metric is very retarded tbdesu

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:32:35 2022 No.34050501 >>34047922 They could just take the Reine approuch and just be willing to respond to some of their shenanigans on twitter, and collab with them in groups. Of course this means being a functional human being.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:32:50 2022 No.34050507 >>34050296 Gura > Ina = Fauna > Kronii, if we're sorting them by floor. Everyone else will be stuck with ~2.5-3k core audience under heavy overlap with debuff content.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:32:51 2022 No.34050509 >>34050451 doesnt ludwig the youtube especialist say the opposite?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:32:51 2022 No.34050508
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More clip numbers.
Gura(9->1) barely breaks Pekora's(1->2) 6 day streak with Among Us (and an animation rEwK8CBa218, +82k/2), with the latter relying on older clips. Amelia(8->3) with Among Us/Pico Park/other streams (there's a lot of material). Miko(10->4) with Need for Speed/zatsu. Korone(13->5) with date zatsu.
Kuzuha(5->6) with Splatoon, HL Official with shorts, Kobo(14->8) with Among Us, Subaru(4->9) and Marine(2->10) with old clips.
Good performances by Baelz(35->12) with Minecraft/RFA, Chloe(28->15) with Splatoon, Toya(46->17) with Splatoon, Fuwa(33->18) with Splatoon, Watame(30->19) with Splatoon, Nene(44->21) with Splatoon + Animation (_I7ENXq3--Y, +102k), Furen(84->31) with Splatoon (one clip in particular fAiD0BEjGrM, +167k), Choco(83->33) with Rust suffer kino, Ange(55->38) with Splatoon.
Split today is 18.0M(+26k) HL to 10.5M(-260k) NJ.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:32:53 2022 No.34050510 >>34050435 At this point it feels like something went wrong with a candidate. A year between gens when you're just building up a branch is already too long, and this is dragged out even more.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:32:54 2022 No.34050511
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I wonder if another algo change hit or if vtubing is STILL slowing down. Council are all UNDER 20k subscribers gained for the last month, i feel like just a month or two again they were all at least 20-30k range prior pretty steadily.
Even Niji subs this month hit a slog hard as fuck Selen went from 50k subs a month in July/August to 18k so far in September only. Pomus at 17k so far this month after having 35-45k months in last 2. Theres 5 days left so i doubt theyll even get to 23k. I was tracking these to see when they'd catch up to Council and pass them soon but at these rates they might not instead at least not anytime soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:33:00 2022 No.34050514 >>34050277 >Rapid-fire debut EN3 AND EN4 Guys... what if... what if the reason for the delay is that they're getting 2 new gens for EN?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:33:01 2022 No.34050515

>>34050463
1000% it is.
With holo en mindshare and popularity? im not surprised if it's double or triple than that.
people here might shit holoen reclining and yadayada but in reality holoEN still popular as ever and got the biggest mindshare in english sphere vtubing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:33:52 2022 No.34050537 File: 103 KB, 481x1604, 26-09-22-rank.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34050508 Table. Got the images mixed up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:33:54 2022 No.34050538 >>34050514 Tempus2

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:34:34 2022 No.34050555 Now that I think about it, did Council ever organized a non-council event ? Not just a collab but any kind of event ?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:34:37 2022 No.34050556

>>34050434
VOD views, because the fanbase for EN spans the globe.
I will never be able to watch an EN stream without ruining my sleep schedule, so VODs are how I watch them.
Although CCV is also important, since it shows you how many dedicated fans you have.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:34:44 2022 No.34050560 >>34050435 I would like to add that the holoEN managers are probably retarded enough to take some extra time because they don't see the issue with only two gens so far.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:34:58 2022 No.34050569

>>34050405
I thonk she prefers to solo stream due to the limited amount of streams she does (RM activities + moving out) and she gives her subscribers what they expect. As a bonus, she's avoiding drama. Thanks to these conditions, Homo collabs seem unlikely

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:35:04 2022 No.34050573 >>34050514 some1 slap this anon back to reality

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:35:09 2022 No.34050577 >>34050032 >you new or something? If you don't understand the conversation, don't respond.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:35:11 2022 No.34050579 >>34050063 "never meet your heroes" could work in her favor here.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:35:14 2022 No.34050581

>>34050509
Ludwig is a "content creator", not a streamer. He does stream, but he's all about gaming the system. It's why he switched to Youtube, so he could stream less and rake in VOD revenue. He's so out of touch with his content and his audience that he doesn't understand why his Mogul Mail channel is doing better than his main one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:35:34 2022 No.34050592 >>34050509 >Suzan's lapdog* FTFY.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:35:39 2022 No.34050594 >>34050514 This might be possible. But instead EN4 we will get sub branch like GAMER EN >>34050510 not surprise if thats the case or they're being very careful to not repeat Council underwhelming performance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:36:30 2022 No.34050628 >>34050555 Anon, nobody in council is capable of leading. Even Gura was able to set up stuff like the Big Brain Games

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:36:36 2022 No.34050631 >>34050514 I did not mean to inspire this rrat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:37:04 2022 No.34050648 >>34050507 >Kronii Kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:37:34 2022 No.34050659 >>34050594 >EN4 we will get sub branch like GAMER EN So IRyS will finally have genmates?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:37:42 2022 No.34050664 >>34050510 >feels like something went wrong with a candidate Ryeschizo...

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:37:45 2022 No.34050665

>>34050560
Recruitment is controlled by JP HQ, they haven't debuted more than two EN gens because they decided to waste their money debuting two JP gens. Instead of building up their EN branch into a mega success more than equal to that of JP they ended up making zero impact in the JP market producing no new stars. Par for the course for retarded nip companies too blind and xenophobic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:37:49 2022 No.34050666 what do we do if EN3 debuts and they're just... ok

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:38:02 2022 No.34050670 >>34050489 Mori networks with just anyone willing to deal with her, yet she's heading to the bottom of the entire holo en. below kiara and almost tempus level. pretty sure she's allowed to collab with other en fleshtubers too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:38:21 2022 No.34050680 >>34050594 make it 5 en3 + 3 krs - making them sister gens would make it easier for them collab and get associated with the box

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:38:22 2022 No.34050681 >>34050480 Back in December, yes. Omega stopped tweeting for a long time after than until Tempus came around.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:38:57 2022 No.34050702 >>34050665 anon, gen 5 debuted before myth and after myth both branches have just debuted 1 gen, what the fuck are you talking about

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:39:07 2022 No.34050711 >>34050581 Yeah whom should I believe a creator who knows ins and out of the industry and is worth millions of dollars for yt or a retard in this thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:39:08 2022 No.34050714 >>34050666 If EN3 is underwhelming it's because Cover debuted them too late, they should've been pushed out last year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:39:09 2022 No.34050716 >>34050666 >EN3 didn't do as well as expected.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:39:11 2022 No.34050717 >>34050666 sanest post in #

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:39:17 2022 No.34050718

>>34050556
Yeah I don’t deny that but anyone saying ccv does not matter is just plain wrong. Honestly it all depend on your career path, for someone like Pekora then ccv is the most important since she is a streamer, not a video maker or music creator, VOD view is secondary to her
Other Holos like Marine find more success in short views and musics view

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:39:41 2022 No.34050723 >>34050666 Then we'll have another Council situation on our hands. No breakout stars, but they'll have their fans and probably have some fun dynamics with some of the older members like SNOT or BaeRys

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:40:07 2022 No.34050731 >>34050666 At the very least they should mog council in subcount

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:40:20 2022 No.34050738
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>>34050443
>Kiara's just kind of there
kek, this reminds me of one of my “expeditionary” visits to a certain African country, one their supermarkets had an unironic TV ad with this as the main claim
>and our rice is 100% WEEVIL FREE!

I mean, that’s good and all but having to praise this type of thing isn’t highlighting there is nothing to praise at all?
I agree with Mori and her music but the rest is just expected from a live streamer at best, or expected from management at worst (with the streamer having to waste her precious time with tasks that should be provided to her)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:40:27 2022 No.34050740 File: 128 KB, 463x453, 1660561070399284.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What if EN3 gonna be mixed gen with 5 males & 5 females?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:40:30 2022 No.34050742 >>34050435 They don't want another Sana.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:40:32 2022 No.34050744 If worst comes to worst and Tempus do collab with NijiEN, who are the most inoffensive ones you will be ok with including Luxiem and Noctyx

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:40:33 2022 No.34050745
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Have faith with EN3 brothers.
3 is a lucky number in holo.
it already happened with ID3 revitalizing and incline holoID brand.
im sure it will happen on EN branch too

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:40:36 2022 No.34050749

>>34050577
They had a lot of fans (just like Tempus) but they also did work in maintaining these fans by passing them around with other HoloENs during their first year, and not letting any of them get exposed to anyone else (didn't help that there weren't that many EN VTubers around at the time).
Tempus had a similar start (pre-made audience) but they're leaking them everywhere by not having proper BOX barriers and continuously collabing with outsiders (Holos or otherwise).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:40:42 2022 No.34050753 >>34050666 I'll trash on them for a few weeks because you fags would have hyped them too much and ruined many threads for absolutely nothing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:41:07 2022 No.34050760 >>34050594 >But instead EN4 we will get sub branch like GAMER EN I'm going to fucking laugh if HoloEN gets VSPO EN before VSPO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:41:17 2022 No.34050768 >>34050666 EN market is dead

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:41:17 2022 No.34050766 >>34050666 That would be better than council I guess. Council were legitimate failures a month after debut due to Susan fuckery. They have inclined alot since then though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:41:17 2022 No.34050767 >>34050723 Kronii was a breakout star but she horribly fumbled it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:41:33 2022 No.34050776 >>34050744 All of them are fine except for Fulgur, Uki, Yugo, and Mysta.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:41:35 2022 No.34050780 >>34050744 shu or alban

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:41:38 2022 No.34050783 >>34050702 Myth was already in the planning at the same time as gen 5 retard, they could've just not wasted money on making a gen 5 and released Myth earlier, then quickly follow up with Council using all that money they saved.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:41:52 2022 No.34050789 >>34050670 same thing happened to ren only does collabs, spent zero time developing your own content. bottom of the barrel unless in a collab with someone bigger mori at least has her music that she does spend time developing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:42:02 2022 No.34050796 >>34050648 Do you have any data to prove me wrong?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:42:06 2022 No.34050801 >>34050509 They often care about vods, but CCV is important when you're streaming because that's what will get you noticed. People see the big number and they go look.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:42:08 2022 No.34050802 >>34050716 kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:42:17 2022 No.34050804 >>34050744 Luca, Shu, and Vox.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:42:25 2022 No.34050814 >>34050767 I repeat what I said. No breakout stars

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:42:27 2022 No.34050816 ID2 to ID3 has 15 months gap. I'd say wait till that point to see what's wrong with the EN3 delay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:42:38 2022 No.34050817 >>34050783 stop writing fanfiction retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:42:39 2022 No.34050818 >>34050666 so, failures then?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:42:50 2022 No.34050824 >>34050666 Not possible, Satan. They either did bad or good. No in between.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:43:17 2022 No.34050836 >>34050670 Most of the networks are on her roommate channel though. Majority of her fault is playing a lot of numbers poison game for the nth time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:43:33 2022 No.34050838 >>34050776 You forgot Vox

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:43:43 2022 No.34050844 >>34049163 Look at this nijifaggot wanting Mumei out. Did orangutan beat Mumei's chatting stream yet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:43:47 2022 No.34050848 >>34050776 >>34050804 You will be ok with Vox collab, why??

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:44:03 2022 No.34050852 >>34050666 Another average gen like council. Nothing wrong with that

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:44:18 2022 No.34050857 >>34050838 Vox is fine since he will go full brotuber and we will see the side of him that isn't gay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:44:23 2022 No.34050858 good morning fags. say it back...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:44:37 2022 No.34050866 >>34050666 Define good. No one expects the next Gura killer, as long as it's just Council but without Sana's shit schedule and Kronii's menhera autism I'd say they are a huge success.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:44:38 2022 No.34050867 >>34050744 none of them are, keep the fuck away

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:44:45 2022 No.34050869

>>34050702
Speaking of this I think JP7 is gonna arrive soon. Cover can tell that Lapu blew it and out of the remaining four only Koyori has any kind of traction as a solo streamer. The gen 2 slackers void hasn't been filled and 1st army is coughing themselves to death, Cover can't just sit on their ass and do nothing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:44:47 2022 No.34050872 >>34050510 Even if something went wrong, they'd have people that made it to the last round still. They'd on-board them pretty quickly because they can't make everyone else in the gen wait for months..

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:45:18 2022 No.34050885

>>34050509
The reason he made about "viewership doesn't matter" is that he thinks viewership fluctuation is normal and needs to stop bothering about it, he still emphasizes pulling big viewership when needed like big events. We really need someone posting that link again because this thread is starting to twist his words to fit their narratives.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:45:20 2022 No.34050886

>>34050817
Let me spell it out for you since you're so retarded. holoJP does not need gen 5 and gen 6 at all because they added nothing to the box, if Cover were any competent they'd have debuted Myth instead of gen 5 and EN3 instead of holoX and we wouldn't have the problem with the lack of EN streamers we have now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:45:24 2022 No.34050888 >>34050801 Actually is it the same in Twitch? I figure VOD view wouldn’t be that important on a live streaming site

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:45:35 2022 No.34050889 >>34050869 chloe and iroha are healing, it's not too late

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:45:46 2022 No.34050896

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FOR FUCKS SAKE IDOL JOURNEY IS THE ENTIRE REASON PEOPLE WATCH HOLOS
IT'S TO SUPPORT THEM IN THEIR GOALS AND FEEL LIKE THEY WERE PART OF IT
WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T EN HAVE ANY FUCKING GOALS, EVEN JUST FUCKING GOAL OF BUILDING SOMETHING IN MICRA COUNTS FOR IT
HAVE SOME FUCKING GOALS TO AIM FOR

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:46:06 2022 No.34050906 >>34050836 nah, she's done the most collabs with outside of the box as mori. sent birthday video message to others as mori, etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:46:26 2022 No.34050913 >>34050844 Mumei's numbers this month deserves to be shit on

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:46:36 2022 No.34050915 >>34050886 go bait people somewhere else retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:47:00 2022 No.34050925 >>34050896 Maybe they'd have some fucking goals if management supported them better and debuted more companion chuubas, ever think about that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:47:06 2022 No.34050926 >>34050869 They need a new gen who can actually help the First Army carrying the company. Koyori is a first step in the right direction, she at least know the basic and can somewhat attract audience

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:47:25 2022 No.34050934

>>34050666
You mean what if they're just,,,whelming?
I think that's fine as well. More bodies in EN means that there's going to be more chances for things to happen and HOPEFULLY they don't all decide to stuff themselves into the same hours and spread out a bit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:47:39 2022 No.34050938 >>34050913 By delusional retards, yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:47:55 2022 No.34050944 >>34050896 Bae said she wants to dance on the stage like her JP senpais.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:48:04 2022 No.34050950 >>34050926 Myth would've been that gen but Cover fucked it up and is still fucking it up, Gura's the only one who can do it now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:48:45 2022 No.34050965 >>34050925 FUCK MANAGEMENT, YOU DON'T NEED PERMS TO SPEEDRUN JUMP KING OR DO SIX HOUR KARAOKE, ACCOMPLISHING GOALS BOOSTS THEIR IMAGE AND MAKES THEIR FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT FOLLOWING THEM

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:48:49 2022 No.34050968 >>34050938 Look at her numbers this month and tell me they aren't shit compared to what she's capable of.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:49:09 2022 No.34050978 >>34050888 Twitch sorts from High/Low CCV or Low/High CCV.\ It's why 'the rich get richer' is very true on Twitch, and why the top dominates so hard. Finding someone in the middle is a pain in the arse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:49:10 2022 No.34050980 >>34050915 Keep seething last samurai

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:49:12 2022 No.34050981

>>34050866
Basically. What EN3 desperately needs is at least SOMEONE who has a fondness for streaming, someone who can fill that 1pm-4pm EST slot and people who are willing to actually organize and set up collabs. EN needs CONTENT, because content is what drives fan work. It’s what drives clips, animations, art, fucking just about everything. When the fans are involved, it gives you the best shot at having eyes ready to watch you stream. And unlike say, Tempus, Hololive and HoloEN are already established and have a culture already built that provides EN3 already with a community eager to watch

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:49:25 2022 No.34050986 Roberu in 10 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:49:26 2022 No.34050987 >>34050749 They had vastly more fans than Tempus. Also as far as this discussion goes I don't give a shit what Tempus is doing. My point was Myth didn't make a box, they inherited one from what Holo JP had established.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:49:44 2022 No.34050993
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More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>34050508
Amelia(5->1) in first with Pico Park and some Among Us, though from a fairly strong foundation from the previous streams that are still being clipped. (R2qgm7hXwHA, +71k; zhWf_8WK4YU, +47k; 0X0MK0gNTWc, +40k)
Gura(56->2) with Among Us + Animation (rEwK8CBa218, +82k/2, dw6CRkF-H9I, +52k/2). (t8zPdCj-j2c, +33k; 6SDqR_LF9LQ, +28k; GRJ0HlJ4ZAk, +26k)
Korone(16->3) with zatsu about her Mio/Risu date. (pq8FKMpU6vQ, +107k; vmSWQTCtIHE, +65k; a8LKnur4HIw, +36k)
Kobo(59->4) with Among Us, with a lot of moments due to the imposter weighting. (Qx5ShM19GJw, +88k; hFvCG1LG4jM, +35k; NvfGNj02l80, +31k)
Miko(32->5) with Need for Speed + related zatsu. (pj4nLPMSrjk, +67k; RQe_g9BquPc, +40k; ANu4RFf67uk, +21k)
Baelz(36->6) with Minecraft/Ring Fit Adventure/Other. A very surprising number of these are KR. Jacob pls. (mRDTcxz8904, +101k; 9mUGV6sFO-E, +46k; GueK0wL4ZnA, +31k)
Kuzuha(6->7) with Splatoon and a few animations. (yLXeXz_sJuI, +97k; XKkmdiXFcsY, +103k/3; YgP79L69yzk, +65k/2)
Pekora(7->8) with variety. (-N18XClla_4, +37k; yBGF8LxHM64, +32k; otdDMy7soRY, +31k)
Mumei(8->9) with some Among Us and zatsu. (gGVoTBObffs, +60k; GhQ1WAUQAes, +43k; fc8AP2vaOgI, +61k/4)
Subaru(4->10) with older clips/zatsu. (VPaUe6r6WF4, +55k; JaT1ME4v_1w, +37k; QZgv6hcMstg, +28k)
Split today is 7.2M(+460k) HL to 2.7M(-470k) NJ.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:49:47 2022 No.34050997 >>34050801 Basically this, you either get big VODs for people having an interest checking it out afterward or big CCV for people who wants to tune in at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:49:53 2022 No.34051003 >>34050944 That's a long term goal, they are nice but unless it's something you are actively pursuing they don't have that much appeal until payoff

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:50:05 2022 No.34051009 File: 65 KB, 460x459, ddeners..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34047614 Man, now you made me fear any menhera getting into EN 3 just to get close to him. Pic hopefully not related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:50:19 2022 No.34051013 >>34050950 Nah that’s not Myth job, Myth job is to grow and maintain Cover position in the EN market, not JP

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:50:42 2022 No.34051024 >>34050925 Is this a preemptive cope? My oshi is a failure because wah wah no support from management?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:50:45 2022 No.34051026 File: 82 KB, 1794x793, 26-09-22-recent.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34050993 Graph.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:50:57 2022 No.34051038 >>34050968 Shes doing well post-summer.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:50:57 2022 No.34051037

>>34050738
>I agree with Mori and her music but the rest is just expected from a live streamer at best, or expected from management at worst (with the streamer having to waste her precious time with tasks that should be provided to her)
Yeah but Council don't do it so it's still a "Myth" branch because they're at the center of 95% of the memorable content. The day to day content is in Council favor, but the thing people will still talk about in 3 months are from Myth members.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:51:03 2022 No.34051040

Reminder your en3 candidates are

Adrianah lee, kiarakitty, neekolul, qtcinderella, justaminx

Can't be disappointed if you don't have high expectations to begin with. Anons here are gonna go full schizos if en3 doesn't fit the image they have even after a few months of content.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:51:19 2022 No.34051044 >>34050670 >yet she's heading to the bottom of the entire holo en Why do you retards even come into this thread when people can see what she's been doing for content?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:51:24 2022 No.34051046 >>34050980 i mean, what the fuck do you expect people to reply to you when your post boils down to the jp branch should have debuted nobody for over 3 years literally fake post

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:51:31 2022 No.34051047 >>34050981 EN3 would also help for collabs so that they don't have to drag in ID and Tempus because enough ENs didn't join.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:52:01 2022 No.34051058 Nijikiller gold today?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:52:22 2022 No.34051066 >>34050858 no

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:52:27 2022 No.34051070 >>34051038 She's having her worst month since January you retard. How is that anywhere near doing well?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:52:57 2022 No.34051085 how many "dreams" and "wishes" did the EN holod make that they actually achieved?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:53:04 2022 No.34051086 >>34051058 Pekora DQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:53:07 2022 No.34051087 >>34051058 probably, the rust thing seems deflated, there's only like 4 povs up from the 13 and there's an hour left, and the overlap is definitely gonna kneecap miko

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:53:12 2022 No.34051091 >>34050981 You want a talent with a mentality of Niji in a Hololive then, to get their head down and stream. But would you do it if you get the maximum reward for minimum input?? And how can you find this out during interview phase?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:53:19 2022 No.34051094 >>34050981 >EN3 >1pm-4pm EST slot Good luck with that. Better off doing your reps and watching Watame.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:53:31 2022 No.34051099 >>34051040 At this point the superior strategy is to cast literal whos and train them to be good in a way that fits Hololive branding.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:54:06 2022 No.34051111

>>34051047
Yeah no shit. It's obvious some EN members can barely stand each other (Gura and Kiara) which is normal if we look at JP. Problem is they are forced to collab with each other because compared to JP there are only 10 members. 4 more members will surely spice shit up, and if they find the next Takamori/Gurame shit it's gonna be a goldmine.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:54:14 2022 No.34051114

>>34051040
>Spoiler
Anons have already gaslight themselves into hating EN3 by hyping them up so much. If they're not all Gura killer cunny-hags that can stream 8 hours a day all day with pekora level CCV and shit out a cover or orisong every second week they're going to be called failures.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:54:45 2022 No.34051128 >>34051070 You are the retard, calm the fuck down. Its not the end of the world, she barely did buff content. Geez, take your meds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:54:59 2022 No.34051133 File: 128 KB, 1486x415, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34047824 juuust in case someone takes this seriously

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:55:30 2022 No.34051145 >>34051091 >And how can you find this out during interview phase? By changing the holoEN 1st year contract to have really, really shitty payout and benefits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:55:32 2022 No.34051146 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-hwTE_O8WY 999k

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