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33776767 No.33776767 [Reply] [Original]

Is tempus actually the problem, or is it Mori?

>> No.33776894

>>33776767
I'm the problem

>> No.33776938

Civil war? More like Clone Wars.

Someone is maniputing both sides to "expose" the whole "bad vtuber fanbase"

>> No.33776943

>>33776767
It's all this faggot's fault >>33776894

>> No.33776946

>>33776767
both

>> No.33776948
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33776948

Consider Mori's dream. She's probably working with Omega to shape EN so that he can debut as a nonbinary chuuba.

https://files.catbox.moe/vq61pa.mp4

>> No.33776955

>>33776767
ina collabed with Shien so shes on the wrong side of that lmao

>> No.33776962

>>33776767
>20$ steam giftcard has been sent to your account

Thank you sylvie

>> No.33776969

>>33776767
Tempus are the problem. Not them as people, but them as concept. Without HomoEN we wouldn't be in this situation.

>> No.33776972

>>33776767
it's (You) and people like (You)

>> No.33776981

>>33776767
No just (you)

>> No.33776984

>>33776955
Shien is our guy tho

>> No.33777010

>>33776767
As much as I hate Mori, Tempus is the problem. That's why we doomposted so much before their debut, we knew their existence would be cancer.

>> No.33777042

>>33776894
hey man, fuck you. stop making it a problem.

>> No.33777046
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33777046

>Sylvie pay me with Gabe bucks

>> No.33777071

>>33776767
Tempus are demons and Mori is the one who opened the heavenly gates to the demons. I don't mind the demons at all as long as they don't show up in heaven.

>> No.33777078

>>33776948
It will happen within the next two years

>> No.33777079

>>33776948
holy shit, she would crash down harder than
Challenger if she ever was talent producer

>> No.33777129

Holostars can do their own thing and nobody would fucking care.
We could also just not give a fuck about Mori.
The real problem is faggots bitching.

>> No.33777134

both, tempus are inviting twitch woke psychos onto streams too and banning anyone who points out the insane shit they've said

>> No.33777148

>>33777046
Wtf is this. And why would anyone pay someone for that?

>> No.33777157

>>33777071
>Mori is the one who opened the heavenly gates to the demons
Why does people act like it was a surprise collab with them? It was obvious and nothing new.

>> No.33777168

>>33777010
The emergence of Omega was the first omen. When the male auditions were announced, the doom was already inevitable.

>> No.33777209

>>33777129
Yeah because Mori and all the girls live in a bubble. I never understood that logic, of course they’re going to talk with each other and influence another. The problem isn’t just going away because you don’t acknowledge it, it will creep into all other facets of the hobby too.

>> No.33777219

>>33777129
Ever wonder who are the faggots that kept on pestering the girls for collabs?

>> No.33777244

>>33777219
Falseflaggers?

>> No.33777245

>>33776955
FBK dragged her in, of course she couldn't refuse daisenpai

>> No.33777248

>>33776767
The existence of Tempus is the core of the current problem, Mori is only exploiting it.
Judging by comments I’m sure most of the guys are fine and just going along with it to help their chances of success (I don’t watch them, I don’t know), but their separation from main branch being literally pointless already is what is causing this. Cover shouldn’t have let it happen.

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>>33777209

>> No.33777271

>>33777148
>And why would anyone pay someone for that?
Do you really need to ask?

>> No.33777275

>>33776767
First, are you paid or not?

>> No.33777277
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33777277

Is she cured of her dysphoria?
Of being a whore?
Of being a sjw?

>> No.33777284

>>33776894
Oh hi, treerrat

>> No.33777374

>>33776955
I consider Ina to be neutral neutral.
>>33777245
Do you think Fubuki could have dragged Gura, Fauna, or IRyS? If no, then Ina did it willingly.

>> No.33777375

>>33777244
Falseflaggers don't operate like that. If a falseflagger ask fauna the same question and she agrees to it, then it defeats the goal of that falseflagger.

>> No.33777379

This astroturfing shit is the most boring thing on this board in a long time.

>> No.33777390

Cover hired a bunch of troons to make their decisions for EN and troons hired terrible "talent" like mori kronii and Bae to name a few.
Do your fucking research next time yahoo, if there even is one

>> No.33777410

>>33776767
The real problem are people that don't even watch Hololive trying to act like their opinion matters
that includes a chunk of this board which clearly a thread watchers or numberfaggots

>> No.33777440

>>33777390
Sorry, Sylvie. Gotta pay more. This is no longer the Civil War you're envisioning, this is being exposed for the Clone Wars tier manipulation you're doing to both sides.

>> No.33777453

>>33777277
she only fucks dogs now
Vesper accidentally exorcised the astroprojected sus of Gabe out of her and then immediately started talking about lewding her dog.

>> No.33777456

>>33776938
>Theres a fucking plot now

>> No.33777475

>>33777375
Trolls then?

>> No.33777719

>>33776955
Don't know if you're baiting or serious but recording lines for some shill animation doesn't really count since the part that hurts gachis is seeing their oshi interacting with a guy and having fun. If she actually streamed with him it would count.
That said I agree with >>33777374 that she's probably neutral on this matter and only hasn't done collabs with guys because she can't be bothered to deal with the fallout, not because she actually has a problem with it.

>> No.33777759

>>33776767
both

>> No.33777809

>>33776767
Omega and Mori are the problem.

>> No.33777855

>>33777475
Trolls always aim for max damage with minimum resources. Sending sc just to troll is laughable.

>> No.33777898

>>33776767
I can’t take this seriously knowing you’re all drama fakers from discord

>> No.33777953

>>33776767
Both, Tempus boys say yes to every single collab request.

>> No.33778021

>>33776767
It's one of reasons Mori has been ignoring Gura. The other thing that got Mori mad at Gura was Rust. No, not when Gura killed her but when Mori had her retarded peace pool party. Gura said she didn't go because it was stupid. That's what really got mori angry

>> No.33778047

>>33776767
It's your fault.
Also this guy's fault.>>33776894
And it's kinda my fault too for knowing this is bait and still taking it ..

Thank you Sylvie-kun

>> No.33778053

Do you guys ever consider that NijiEN fags are the ones behind all this collabbegging? Multiple Reddit screenshots already prove it.

>> No.33778059

>>33778021
To be fair, it was stupid

>> No.33778073

>>33778021
she's still raging about "Try minecraft"
two words, that's all it took
jesus fuck I wish I had that level of troll power

>> No.33778081

>>33777374
>iRys
Freakin Kiara dragged her in dkm collab

>> No.33778101

>>33777256
I love this pic

>> No.33778136

>>33777453
>>33777277
jesus christ Sylvie calm down

>> No.33778161

>>33778053
Like what's being said: this isn't Civil War. It's the fucking Clone Wars.

>> No.33778172

>>33776767
It's all on team Mori

>> No.33778182
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>>33776767
The recent drama is all on kronii. She's the one who mishandled breaking the news to her simps, and got omega to unnecessarily weigh in on the situation. Granted, the latter is probably a team full of woke fuckers, but she was the one who asked. Maybe mori did, or did not, teach her to be rude and snide as fuck, but ultimately she (kronii) was the one who typed those things and clicked the send button. She's not a fucking baby.

Trying to broadly put the blame on either mori or tempus is disingenuous at best.

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>>33776938
Mandatory posting now that SW has been namedropped.

>> No.33778207

>>33778073
qrd on try minecraft?

>> No.33778216

>>33778081
catboy good
homostar bad

>> No.33778228

>>33778189
We need Sylvie to be palpatine, quick!

>> No.33778237

>>33777277
What did she mean by this?

>> No.33778361

>>33776767
It's all on mori, she's been trying to get back on gura for ruining her hololive "vision" since gura is CGDCT and will always have a bigger influence just by being
So now she teamed up with omega to start cracking hololive from the inside, like a tumor that will eventually lead to hololive x Ecelebs collabs as the norm
All in the name of simpimg for that c*nner cock

>> No.33778447

>>33778361
>Mori
>Teaming up with Omega
Literal wrestling storyline bullshit, anon. It exposes how new you are.

>> No.33778458

>>33776767
There's no winner for this war.
Those who don't collab with males will be frowned upon Twitter for sticking up with the unicorn audience.
Those who collab with males will be frowned upon by unicorns for sticking up toTwitter.
There's no win condition, only chaos.

>> No.33778500

>>33778458
Don't you see the puppets and the puppet master?

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>>33776948
I suspect that some of the girls played a role in picking Tempus and it seems it was either Mori, Ame, or both.

>> No.33778525

Mori handles it well honestly. She never brings the guys up outside of the streams where she collabs. This is all on Kronii

>People react badly to her collabing with guys
>She does a stream responding to it
>She then continues to respond to it in the comments of clipper streams
>She then takes a two week break
>Returns and decides to bring it up all again

>> No.33778529

>>33778458
Every war has it's winner. And only the winner writes history. You don't want to be in the wrong side after this.

>> No.33778530

>>33778361
>>33778447

It's very possible. >>33776948
Her dream is to be the talent producer. Let me repeat: her DREAM.
Omega needs someone to destroy the foundations of Holo EN to rebuild it so that his nonbinary LGBT character debut is welcomed. Mori fits the bill. A deal might have been made.

>> No.33778544

>>33777277
>>33778237
Seems like putting up a brave front. Probably implying that she's mentally "cured" of pain after all the recent drama.

>> No.33778828

>>33776767
Just take Kronii, Mori, and Ame, and we can make peace

>> No.33778890

>>33778544
It means the brainwashing is complete

>> No.33778893

>>33778530
Anon, Mori isn't Lelouch Lamperouge. Stop making this OC version of her that reads like Saturday Night anime villain. It's embarrassing.

>> No.33779351

>>33778361
Fuck off, Kronie.

>> No.33779512

>>33778136
>>33777440
Idk who that is but please take your meds

>> No.33779558

>>33776948
Whoever allows that to happen should be gassed and executed

>> No.33779574

>>33779512
>Still pretend that this whole "war" isn't the product of Nijishills latest scheme to slander HoloEN.

>> No.33779948

>>33779574
I hate nijiwhores

>> No.33779992

>>33777209
Of course they all talk. And yet Kiara and IRyS have made it clear they will not collab with males, and Gura doesn't seem like she will either.
Mori may be a cancer in Hololive, but she does not have the power to absolutely persuade or coerce every single girl to collab with Holostars. And depending on the stream, these mixed gender collabs may be harmless, like the Worms tournament. Even the Kronii-Vesper collab was fine because it was essentially an hour-long improv skit.
A mixed gender environment will not become the norm like it is in NijiEN. Not when some Holo girls outright refuse male collabs, and the male collabs that do happen are akin to special events.

>> No.33780074

Western w*men were a mistake

>> No.33780145

>>33779992
>Muh Cancer
She's the only one along with Bae who handled the situation correctly and even prefaced that people shouldn't bug the other girls about collabs.

This really reeks of astroturfing and maniputing both sides.

>> No.33780181

>>33780074
>Nijishills were a mistake
ftfy.

>> No.33780463

>>33780145
Ah sure
>Just remember to not pester the girls for homocollabs ok? *wink wink*

>> No.33780528

>>33780463
Anon, the reveal of the Nijishill discord obliterates your slander.

>> No.33780566

>>33780181
Holo and niji both have en, this isn't contained to any single company

>> No.33780641

>>33777010
Mori has been the primary problem of HoloEN from the beginning, long before Tempiss ever appeared

>> No.33780782

>>33777010
I hate them but I'll still apply for the next round of holo stars.
I just straight up wouldn't collab with anyone if I made it tho. Collabing with other guys is gay, the girls that would wanna collab piss me off, and I wouldn't wanna damage the girls like gura who seen alright for the time being.

>> No.33780847

>>33776894
Fuck you!!!

>> No.33780870

>>33780528
The niji boogeyman doesn't chance the fact that mori has been advocating for homos since day one, nor the fact that kronii's "own the haterz" behavior was probably supported by her
I stand by pink woman being bad

>> No.33780880

>>33778053
You're coping because you don't want to admit that half of the talent of HoloEN and all of management want to turn HoloEN into NijiEN by themselves.

It's convenient to blame evil outside forces "le nijinigger discord bogeyman" because the alternative is having to face the fact that people inside the company already feel the same - they don't need any prompting from discord to turn Holo into Niji, continue the destruction of muh toxic idol culture, and just want to ride the shiny new cock carousel.
If they didn't, those collabbeggers and nijiniggers you deflect blame on would have no power over them and couldn't force them to.

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More like

>> No.33780979

>>33780870
>doesn't chance the fact that mori has been advocating for homos since day one
So why be surprised when she collabs with them?

>> No.33781018

>>33780979
She's also the first one saying to NOT collab beg.

>> No.33781047

>>33778525
>Mori handles it well honestly

Roru. Already forgot the Lean/Connor/Cuckbeat meltdown arc she had? She only appears to be handling it "well" because she already got the meltdown out of her system over a year ago and already filtered her fanbase into accepting cuck culture by hopping on the cock carousel from day one, as opposed to other girls like Kronii who are only now hopping on so their fallout is fresh.

>> No.33781100

>>33780979
I'm not, everyone knows mori is shit clockbeat, the problem is her shilling for others to eat shit like she does
See kroni after she fell for it

>> No.33781196

>That Star wars parody thread turned out to be truer than this stupid "CIVIL WAR"

This is Kino.

>> No.33781230

>>33781100
>the problem is her shilling for others to eat shit like she does
That is pure cope from Kronies.

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>>33777046
>pic
do shills really?

>> No.33781369

>>33777079
>challenger
that's too far bro
delete this post

>> No.33781403

>>33780782
>A unicorn who hates holostars will join them
Epic storyline
Hope you make it

>> No.33781602

>>33780145
This is my first post. >>33777129
Though I'm not a fan of Calli, I'm saying this whole thing about collabs is not that big of a deal.
But if you're gonna bring up manipulation, you could say this whole thread was bait and we all fell for it.

>> No.33781660

>>33778525
Unironically.
I don't even think I'd be mad if she just ignored the issue, scheduled the Vesper collab and did that. It would've just reaffirmed my hatred in EN and I could've been watching holos in peace.

The dumbass drama baiting shit response from Kronii ruined everything. It's another fucking Coco situation where some people think they're the biggest heroes who shield their oshi from the evil antis. You can't bring honest criticism into this autistic community anymore, people just get mad and try to silence your opinion.

>> No.33781775

>>33781660
Yeah I used to really like and defend her. Genuinely wouldn't care if she male collabed. But that last tweet coming off a long break was just a spit in your fans face moment. Glad I'm an IRyStocrat

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>>33777953
>they must be accepting all the collabs offers because I keep getting them
You don’t know how many collab offers were made that were declined rejected scheduled or accepted behind the scenes you dumb fuck. You are basically experiencing survivorship bias.

>> No.33781943

Unironically it's covid's fault
Then Coco
Then EN as a whole

>> No.33782016

>>33778521
i can believe this
the girls picked these boys now they are trying to groom them towards success

>> No.33782150

>>33780782
Bro, I wish for your success.

>> No.33782258

>>33776948
This better not be the case because I already dislike Mori as a Tempus watcher. This just makes the boys look like her guinea pigs.

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33782350

I hate the homos because I see the unity from adversity is creating stronger generational bonds and they all bring something to the table for their gen. It makes me seethe that Tempus has what I wish Council and Myth still had past their initial debuts.

CLEARLY HOLOLIVE CAN PUT TOGETHER A DECENT GEN WITH GREAT INTERPERSONAL CHEMISTRY, WHY COULDN'T THEY DO IT WITH THE GIRLS.

>> No.33782382

>>33782258
Anon, Omega is literally a hated HoloEN producer, by all of them. Not just the "good ones" but by all of them. Anyone who theorizes this collusion is a wrestling addict because this is literally

"AUSTIN JOINED MCMAHON, HE HAD THE DEAL WITH THE DEVIL" tier fanfiction.

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>>33782382
What's with you and wrestling? It's well known that Mori influences other girls to collab with males and Omega is literally a nonbinary trans character who introduced himself during Council's debut (even the girls were weirded out by this).
Consider that it's Mori's DREAM. Her DREAM is to be the talent producer. How is she going to get there? Omega needs a helping hand in re-shaping Holo EN. It's not hard to see that a deal might have been made.

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>>33782350
The girls had success dropped in their laps. I won't deny that they've worked hard, but EN buff created a perfect storm that resulted in their skyrocketing success being inflated.

>> No.33782709

>>33782598
What's you're obsession with fanfiction, because there are lots of formless characters in anime.

Also, Mori is one of the people dunking on Omega. This is a known fact. Do not twist something you heard on /morig/ from members, anon, they can easily fact check you.

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>>33778893
>foreigner in japan
>from a rich family
>has an alter ego
>amassed a following to overthrow the status quo
hmmm...

>> No.33783001

>>33782775
>from a rich family
Mori?

>> No.33783038

>>33782598
wait, the girls were weirded out by omega? lmao

>> No.33783254

>>33782709
Mori taking jabs at Omega is meaningless and more suspicious since she's the main male collab influencer. It divided the EN girls into SNOT and CHAD already. And now the homobeggars vs CGDCT is made even clearer. The whole thing's being torn apart and you're calling it fanfiction? Well, go ahead. Maybe you're scared or something. I don't know what your reaction is.

>> No.33783274

>>33776767
Tempus is not the cause, it's the catalyst

>> No.33783306

>>33783254
Kek no, go astroturf more.

>> No.33783324

>>33783001
>he lacks the critical information

>> No.33783374

>>33776767
falseflaggers. follows the discord leak perfectly. make shit up to rile people. amplify the drama. make it look like holo is doing worse. use the tempus boys or existing mori hate to try to siphon views from holoen to dying nijien. gets revealed to be niji shills. enough doubt casted now on the drama and reddit holo are not taking the moderate route. actually helps holo. kek.

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33783454

>>33783374
So instead of OP, This is actually what's happening.


That SW parody thread was totally right.

>> No.33783861

>>33782598
>It's well known that Mori influences other girls to collab with males
You know that is just cope from people who can't believe Kronii chose male collabs side.

>> No.33784761

>>33780463
The definition of schizophrenia.

>> No.33784790

>>33783454
Watch as it is all a plot by hoomans to peg nijitrannies against holotards and bring down kroni so mumei can be the top council

>> No.33784972

Vengeance has consumed them. And it has consumed you.

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