/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

If the all the branches are under Hololive Pro and mixed collabs are not a big deal then why
>are males not allowed on the Rust server?
>are males not allowed on the Minecraft server?
>males can't initiate collabs?
>are concerts separated events?
>are off collabs between branches not allowed?
For being such a supportive and open company they sure have a lot of weird and archaic rules huh?

[Anonymous No.]

do something better with your time

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724739
Nta, what about you? Don't have something better to do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724820
I live to defend Tempus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
What went wrong with your childhood?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724847
I don't mind tempus. I mind mixed collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724937
Tempus ARE mixed collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
It's almost like EN management has a separate agenda from the main company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>Cover fully support all of our activities
Except for all of the chuuba project they canned and not getting genchink perm for sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>males can’t initiate collabs
That’s pretty backwards and disrespectful ngl

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725002
No, Tempus is so much more than that. Stop flanderizing them.
They should just drop the mixed collabs, so their other qualities can truly shine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725119
This. I hate how the females of EN see an opportunity to exploit the boys, not allowing them (especially in their early stages) to fully shine

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Easiest way to get blocked by that account is to ask why the boys are not allowed on the Rust server lmao. You can even do it in the most polite way and you get instantly blocked. It's all just window dressing to appear progressive but they know their whole gender divide is what keeps the company afloat in JP so pointing out their hypocrisy is the most insulting thing you can do to them.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you bitching at us, bitch at that account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724820
i don't know what nta means, but also yes i do and it definitely isn't being mad at virtual youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725566
I'm opening up a discussion, nobody forced you to open the thread and make a post anon. Just don't open it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725843
not that anon you newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725843
are you by any chance a menhera gook with daddy issues?
You sure sound conceited.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725843
>i don't know what nta means

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726093
Everyone starts somewhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725848
>I'm opening up a discussion
No you aren't. You this is a bait thread and you're a massive faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Soon, sister, soon they will be allowed to even have sleepovers with the girls, or explore their fleshy walls with their genitals

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
This would be based if it didn't have any of that pussy suicide shit. Nobody would notice another neet killing himself alone in his room. If he really hated Hololive he could've done A LOT of other things to get the word out. Bring down Hololive with him.

I'm talking of course of making a minecraft server.

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>>33724637
Fuck of with your retard bait thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
Nijification is unstoppable

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724739
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725002
Tempus collabs with each other more than Myth and Council.
Cope harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Touch grass and kill yourself if you can't handle basic human interaction. Its exhausting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
the same chinese managers that refused to let Coco and haachama collab with en also want EN to be another front in the culture wars because it weakens the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>talents crate content under their original branding
>cover fully supports all our talents activities

>cover censors gura's animation last second
So which is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
All of those are handled by JP management. It's EN management that try to nijify Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726458
Because they literally don't have anything else going. Even StarsJP have grandiose ideas of concerts, events, shops, etc. Tempus just joined to collab with Hololive, that is their major goal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726497
Hello "basic human interaction" anon. I see you're still wasting your entire day on 4channel arguing with people and somehow thinking you're better than them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
because fuck you homobeggar that's why

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726504
sounds absurd but I know how ridiculous my countrymen are and this isn't beyond them

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726504
One of them is ethnically chinese but he doesn't really have any ties to China. Believe it or not its way more related to the whole western culture war shit i know it sounds trite and tired after years of this but its as simple as that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
the absolute state of unicornniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726558
Don't ask questions anon, enjoy the content and don't forget to send Supas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726504
I remember the EN girls can't even say Coco's and Haachama's names back then.
Fans kept asking them to collab but Coco revealed that EN management ignored her requests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>males can't initiate collabs?
Someone didn't tell Axel that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7h9cDEMPak&t=726s

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726790
>With EN
Nobody cares about ID.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
>oshi collabs with males
>commits seppuku

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724739
I don't know anon he pretty much blew you the fuck out there

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724929
Penis envy, societal emasculation, and trying to fit in despite not agreeing with the new retarded sjw agendas

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Anon everything you've just listed is a safety measure to protect male talents from the Schizophrenic portion of a female talents fanbase.

Except for men not being allowed to initiate collabs, thats just Misandry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
HoloEN management is working completely in the dark away from covercorp, if you want JP to start tard wrangling EN you need to start sending deepL emails to the home office

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>are off collabs between branches not allowed?
Mori did a singing off collab with Rikka though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726563
>dude trust me

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725843
>Instead i definitely get mad at rando on the internet
lmfao this is not the epic W+R you think it is twitter dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724739
Someone tell gookmoot I'm willing to give him a substantial amount in crypto to change the official board header to,
/vt/ - do something better with your time

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726790
It’s okay, the plan is for Zeta to rape Axel on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>are males not allowed on the Rust server?
Because Cover respects the wishes of the girls who do not wish to interact with males, being allowed on the server would force them into uncomfortable situations.
>are males not allowed on the Minecraft server?
See above
>males can't initiate collabs?
They can, they just choose not to because they feel it's not their place to.
>are concerts separated events?
idk
>are off collabs between branches not allowed?
I know for a fact there has been at least 1 of these at some point in time

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
The answer to all your questions is right there: "The talents of hololive production create content under their own branding." It just so happens that most talents of Hololive don't want to play with males. That's their branding aka business plan to cater to corns and CGDCT fans. Are you aware that no one is stopping talents that are for mixed gender content from creating their own servers or asking staff to host them for that purpose? Forcing people to collab/mix is just ridiculous. If, let's say Mori or Ame ever decides that they want to play MC with Tempus on a regular basis, they'll make arrangements to make it happen.

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>>33725205
>not allowing them (especially in their early stages) to fully shine
like getting mogged by fucking pickme pippa lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Those rules should stay the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725843
you could have just not responded, but now you've outed yourself as a newfag and completely invalidated your point, nice job

[Anonymous No.]

>>33727534
claiming not to know basic 4chan terms might be the most powerful bait possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33727315
Mori would 100% pitch a bitch fit to get tenpiece in the EN server, if it meant that the EN server had to be cut off from JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>33727223
>girls who do not wish to interact with males
Who and why would anyone wish to not interact with the guys? Also there are people in the Rust server or Minecraft that have never even spoke a word with each other. Just because one guy is on the other side of the island does that mean every Holo is forced to go suck his dick as a welcome.
>They can, they just choose not to because they feel it's not their place to.
why?
>there has been at least 1 of these at some point in time
Just one? Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33727701
Just kill yourself newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
>decides to off himself than live a reality of horrors
He will be buried as japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Anon, they’re saying that mixed-gender collabs are the girls’ decision, and they’re open and supportive about that. Everything you mentioned is done to ensure that it’s solely up to the girls, with no way for girls who don’t want male interaction to accidentally stumble upon the guys. It’s interesting to see people who speak about empowering women railing against stuff that empowers them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>are off collabs between branches not allowed?

Rikka in Mori's concert.
Fubuki and Matsuri in Aruran's anniversary.
Oga in Risu's 3D.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728200
Let me make it more specific then.
>are casual off collabs not allowed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33727676
Good thing she doesn't play Minecraft anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33727701
>why
Personal preferences. Why should they have to explain themselves beyond that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725048
>not getting genchink perm for sana
whatever narrative you're trying to push here, not only you're not doing a good job but also being retarded while at it

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728027
>>33728361
I still don't get an answer why would there be girls that are against male interactions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33727315
If the members are free to pretty much be whatever they want, why bother having them under Hololive a female only idol group and Holostars a male only idol unit?
Why can't they go and do porn like Melody if their image is up to the individuals?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728485
... >:(

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>>are males not allowed on the Rust server?
Because some girls don't want to
>are males not allowed on the Minecraft server?
Because some girls don't want ot
>males can't initiate collabs?
they can, but otherwise because some girls don't want them to
>are concerts separated events?
because some girls don't want them to, if they want them there they'd be invited like Rikka was
>are off collabs between branches not allowed?
because the girls don't want them to

retard can't even follow the post

[Anonymous No.]

>>33727701
Personal branding, Cover said it right then and there.
Honestly this is the best take they could have had. people on either side of this shit website trying to control the talents are acting like possessive girlfriends, its pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728473
because you're a stupid trannyfaggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728473
The answer should be obvious, it will dilute their view as a female only idol group.
Name means nothing if action doesn't back it up. They can say that they're a female only group all they want but if guys are involved in a significant part of their activity then they are objectively not a female only group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Cry more Homobeggar

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF EN MANAGEMENT DOESN'T SUPPORT ME
IF I HAVE TO FIGHT TO GET MY IDOL COMPANY BACK, I WILL FIGHT UNTIL MY DYING BREATH

[Anonymous No.]

>>33727676
All that would do is get them a dead fucking server nobody plays on because that'd give people like gura and fauna even less reason to play minecraft since they want to play with the rest of the fucking company

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724929
No one is born a criminal, and no one achieves anything alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728582
Why would some girls don't want to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728473
Because some girls explicitly joined hololive to avoid having to deal with male co-workers and some girls joined hololive to shamelessly suck money out of the wallets of lonely men.

There are probably other reasons too but I have a penis so I can't think of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725843
>nta
not the asshole
basically it's how you vote if you think OP isn't the asshole in this situation

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728625
Be careful anon you're getting too close to the correct answer someone might tell you to kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728730
Because they don't want to collab with holostars, its just that simple

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Anon it's most likely happening but they wrongly still believe that they still have to 'boil the frog'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728473
Because they don’t want to. Why should they need an explanation beyond that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>are off collabs between branches not allowed?
didn't kiara and reine already offcollab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728730
I know you're being sarcastic but it's funny to see the mental gymnastics of homobeggars trying to reply to your question

>ThEy JuSt DoN't WaNt To CoLlAb WiTh ThEm, OkAy?

lemao

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728896
>>33728825
You people really don't want to think about it lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Post it on twitter and force them to pick a side. Fence sitting is boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728994
you're replying to a homobeggar to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728896
>>33728825
Funny how the same kind of people that first >>33724929 tried to use "psychology" as an argument quickly give up about any deeper thought on the subject.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728994
>he thinks the people who say that girls might not want to collab with guys are the homobeggars
>not the ones who don’t understand that concept and that they should be together

[Anonymous No.]

>>33729008
What is there to consider?
>>33729127
Why are you bringing up unrelated posts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33729008
>>33729127
there are members who have gone on record to address this, if you really want a 'reason' so bad just go watch clips because I know they exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33729231
You know, but you won't say it because it would diminish your whole rhetoric.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33729457
What rhetoric?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33729008
NTA why is it matter anyway ? either the reason is for farming unicorn or just socially awkward with opposite gender etc isn't the point is to support anyone and each of them can build their own image brand ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>males can't initiate collabs?
That's not the case anymore. Oga and Robel invited FBK to collab several times recently while Papa also invited Matuli

[Anonymous No.]

why are all these twitter troons trying to essentially rape women? is that because that's what they do irl as well?????

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
So the sum total of Idol Culture is
>NO DON'T HAVE A MAN APPEAR
And literally nothing else right? That's the only thing that makes an idol otaku different from being a fan of any other media/personality/franchise?

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>>33729725
The actual point was that the girls have to approach first. Fubuki is willing to accept requests from them, so they do it. For whatever reason, anons started treating it like an iron rule within company policy, rather than the guys showing professional courtesy.

[Anonymous No.]

this is all Gura's fault for pretending TEMPUS doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728267
They should be, but why would any JP members do it? There aren't any male/female pairs that are close enough to just visit the other's house casually. Japanese people are very reserved, even some of the girls get really shy and weird with their same-sex co-workers.

Casual 3D streams may happen more often in the future, the boys only just got their 3D last year. Let them have their first lives and stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33730085
LMAO gura is the only one that will survive EN's continued plummet

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
It's EN management bending over backwards to make mixed collabs happen between EN. That's literally it. Omega fucked off and became the project manager for the holostarsEN brand and that's his goal and arguably has always been his goal since he used to make weird posts about the JP Stars too. The JP Stars had no fucking idea the EN guys were a thing, by the way.

You wanna point fingers? EN management and the tempus guys for accepting every single collab and not caring about other fanbases and their reactions to their presence. EN management even more because they know about fans getting mad and they STILL push it on purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728715
So basically no change to how it is now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33730331
would be even deader actually since the only person doing shit on it would just stop playing

[Anonymous No.]

>>33730277
Yeah point the finger at the people accepting the collabs not the one creating them, u should go hang ureself unicuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>33730067
>that the girls have to approach first.
Again anon, for the past few months that was not the case anymore. Robel also the one that initiate every collab with Rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
>i liked idol culture
>doesn't even know that real idols do collab with males
either falseflagger or usual EOP talking about shit they don't even know

[Anonymous No.]

>getting mad at the Tempus boys for accepting collabs
>not getting mad at the lazy, uninspired whores you call an "oshi" jumping on NEWTHING because the alternative is them actually putting in some effort with their streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725949
you retard nta IS the fag newspeak from redditors and twitter faggots who are uncomfortable with an anonymous message board

[Anonymous No.]

>>33730632
Anon, the girls approached first originally and made themselves available, now the guys are free to request it. You’re looking at it too narrowly as though I’m saying the girls have to take the first step every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33730861
There is a difference between an idol group going to a morning tv show to do some promotion next to a male idol group and an idol going live on IG hanging out with a member of a male idol group in her house.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33731035
But there's actually a period when Holostars don't initiate collab with Hololive and even refusing collab invitation from the girls. Funny enough it was also the period when Robel and Festival stopped interacting with each others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33731429
yeah next thing these retards will talk about how the live band for hololive commonly has males in it like that's some gotcha. Like they don't understand that niji EN style shit is what people don't want to happen and that's literally where holo EN is 100% going. Just with way less hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33729008
What are you getting at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
If you want an actual response then superchat these questions to Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33730887
>>33730887
>>33730887
>>33730887
>>33730887

[Anonymous No.]

>>33731595
And people also forget that NijiEN didn't start like this https://twitter.com/MillieParfait/status/1572368599490375680 it took months for it to get to this level. Right now everyone is coping with the whole
>Oh the collabs are very professional, nothing weird is going on~
While we're already seeing shit like HoloENs commenting on pics of the Homo's underwear. At this point i wouldn't be surprised if we have blatant flirting and lusting on Twitter by the next year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33731538
We’re probably talking about completely different things then. In either case, the ball is in the girls’ court. They choose whether to make first contact.

[Anonymous No.]

wonder how many of her stans understand the whole "I love myself" gimmick was created due to her insecurity and inability/disdain to deal with male fans affection

[Anonymous No.]

>>33731538
I swear its all newfags that keep bringing up HoloJP and StarsJP as some sort of gotcha. When even the most male friendly Holos don't come close to the level of collabs HoloEN is having in just two months. They're comparing 3 years of collabs with 3 months lmao, and they don't think its at all weird that they're even comparable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724739
if you answer the question we could be done with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>are males not allowed on the Rust server?
The admin of Rust server is part of anti-male faction.
>are males not allowed on the Minecraft server?
Miko is the head of that faction.
>males can't initiate collabs?
They can try, just like Lack can try asking Flare to collab with her siblings.
>are concerts separated events?
Because these are separate branches.
>are off collabs between branches not allowed?
Oga was in Risu's 3D.
Any more questions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33732698
>Because these are separate branches.
why?
>why are casual off collabs between branches not allowed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>males can't initiate collabs?
Heh, update your info

[Anonymous No.]

>>33730085
Gura was always a disappointment, from not streaming, ghosting her audience and now pandering to the schizos and anti-male trannies. Her attitude will bite her in ass eventually so I'm not worried

[Anonymous No.]

>>33733026
>why?
Different target audience, it's like BMW and VW are parts of the same company and are both produced in the same factory but VW is a budget family car and BMW is sport "luxury" car for manchildren.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33731429
yes there is a difference and the difference is that idols don't act like a whore and be professional when collabing with male, so back to the point, whoever that guy is, saying collabing with male = denying idol culture, which isn't true at all showing that he is just EOP who know jackshit about idol culture, if your oshi can't be professional and act like a whore then they are not real idol and you should leave them if they can't be corrected, not being retarded trying to make excuses using idol culture

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
True they should allow males on Rust, Minecraft, concerts, off collabs and everything. If they actually have rules against that it would be pretty hypocritical and dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33733820
Without using a metaphor, what are the different target audiences?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33732356
>They're comparing 3 years of collabs with 3 months lmao
Because there was interaction ban between Stars and Live until Holocomi stream happened. Maybe EN should've have the same thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>33729941
nah, any actual idolfag knows that this, while a part of idol culture, definitely isn't a major trait of it. these fags that support talentless bitches just because they have an anime pfp aren't idolfags and have no fucking idea what idol culture even is. they just use buzzwords and an appeal to authority to justify their menhera delusions. any actual idolfag wouldn't support such lazy retards such as the hololive girls, and definitely not the holoen ones.
entertainers and streamers with anime pfps are all they are. which isn't a bad thing, but it's retarded to act like they are true idols.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33730887
this

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724739
Homobeggar deflection

[Anonymous No.]

>>33734839
Even recently collabs between the JP branches are not really that regular. A couple each month. EN and ID are spamming the shit out of them. It's kinda funny, one of the Homos was crying about in a member's stream about how much the Worms collab impacted him and how it made him feel he had made it.

Not meeting his Stars senpais, not collabing with them... fucking Worms lol. If that doesn't tell you the priorities of Tempus lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728625
biggest samefag of the century

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>33735407
Stars JP have animare for the male female interaction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
this got deleted instantly right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33734334
People who want to watch male vtubers and those who don’t. Also, I’m pretty sure that anon’s metaphor is wrong and that VW and BMW are under separate companies. A more accurate one would be Dodge and FIAT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33736272
But Hololive features male vtubers all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33734334
Vtubers have almost exactly the same spread of audience as host bars, for male vtubers they are mostly OLs, faggots and college students, for female vtubers they are mostly salarymen, college students and freeters.
I was surprised that stereotypical neet otaku had no representation in statistics but apparently RabuRaibu did wonders to that demographic(read they either killed themselves or got a job).

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Good strat. If this is what Omegatranny wants to do then make him choke on it. Kick up a stink about the minecraft segregation and how its pandering to incels. Weaponize the twitter trannies against EN management and destroy the cancer for good

[Anonymous No.]

>>33736505
Try watch Towa

[Anonymous No.]

>>33736505
There are Hololive-only fans and there are Holostars-only fans. The first group won't want to watch the Stars performing on HoloFes, the second group won't want to watch Live members performing on StarsAct. Maybe in the future Cover will make a third concert for both branches, but until then these events will keep being separate.

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone forgets the Oga and Fubuki off collabs....

[Anonymous No.]

>>33733820
>manchildren.
go back tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>33727023
AZKI also did. OP is just a turbofaggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>33737272
better yet give en their own containment concert. No need to waste slots on Ame, Kroni Bae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33730887
PLEASE UNDERSTAND!!
ACTUAL VIDEO GAMES ARE A MASSIVE NUMBERS DEBUFF!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33736752
Unironically this

[Anonymous No.]

>>33735407
Who cried?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33735407
Uh bro? There was a JP stars collab yesterday?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33738352
That will never happen because of the other girls, especially Gura, Ina and Kiara. The JP side doesn't care if some of the members collab with the Stars as long as they don't force it on the others who don't want to, like how Fubuki and Matsuri weren't ostracized for being their first "shills". I doubt the EN side will try anything funny about it, but only time will tell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>So that people who don't want to collab cross-gender don't suddenly end up forced into an impromptu collab by encountering someone through happenstance of gameplay. Also so that there are some projects that are uniquely the product of one branch or the other.
>See above
>They can, they just choose not to do so in many cases.
>Anon apparently has never heard of the concept of music groups or bands before.
>Hololive and Holostars have never appeared together in the studio for 3d collabs befo--oh,wait, yes they have.
If you're not genuinely this stupid, then please try harder in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33737272
It's funny how vesper continues to be right in how fan bases refuse to mesh and how collaborations do nothing for growth.
Tribes will stick to their tribes while the few open minded will find new favorites.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33738352
Marine won’t stand for that, no way you’re denying Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724739
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>33738720
Axel. He privated the membership stream.
>>33735700
What would be the EN animare, Phase Connect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33730085
And that's a good thing!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33739718
>>33738720
Axel was the one that spilled the beans about Ame talking the guys for a while before and after the stream, that she reached out to them, not an open invitation like the rrats were saying and that she wants to play Apex with them.

Magni was the one that cried about feeling like he "made it" and how Ame gave him a new purpose in life and shit like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33740046
That's not exactly a new feeling. Even JP holostars have said the same thing when they managed to get in a good spot despite the hate that they get for existing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33740046
>Magni cried over a fucking worms collab
This faggot...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
Sacrifice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33740242
I understand the feeling, my problem with it is that he got it after doing a shitty collab with Hololive. My hope for StarsEN is that they were fans of the Stars, that they wanted to join because of them. But they barely show any interest or reverence towards the Stars brand, instead they seem starstruck by Hololive. And when you learn about their pl shit then it becomes completely obvious and it doesn't sit right with me. Just as if a girl auditioned for Hololive just because she loved Holostars and had no interest in the Live side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33739718
I still wonder if they're allowed to collab with the smaller agencies. In 2 years the EN side has barely interacted with the western scene other than Vshojo, NijiEN and the rare indie friend from their pls, and while I hope it's just the members being uninterested in going outside of the Holopro bubble it wouldn't surprise me if Cover is actually blocking them from doing so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33740540
It can't be helped because its basically the same thing for EN hololive. They barely do things with their JP senpai outside of the big events due to the language barrier.
They've had a three year head start and they also have more JP senpai to interact with, but they squandered it.
Compared to Tempus who pretty much did two big collabs with holostars in minecraft, left 4 dead, and the collab that magni did yesterday.
It does not surprise me that people call the girls lazy fucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33740808
And Magni should've had that members breakdown after the Minecraft collab, not Worms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33741054
The one who had the breakdown for minecraft was for Altare, Vesper, and Axel.
The worms thing happened for Magni obviously because it was a larger event and represented a complete acceptance into the community since it completed the integration of Tempus into stars JP, Myth, Council, and ID. Magni also did a solo JP collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
>Each talent carefully considers what is best for that talent and surrounding community.
>COVER Corporation fully supports all of our talents'activities
except all those times they had projects vetoed, like when matsuri and towa wanted to join the streamer server and they put out a statement because laplus was caught in it without informing management

[Anonymous No.]

>>33741386
Magni used to do thirst content about Hololive, he was a huge fan. Never even once mentioned Holostars previously. The reason he had a mental breakdown after a dumb shit like Worms was because he was on stream with the girls he was wanking to a couple months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33740800
Aside from NijiEN collabs, which could be something on the other end, and Veibae backing off due to Hololive fan backlash, HoloEN management hasn’t really stopped the talents from doing outside collabs. The perception of HoloEN being a “walled garden” is almost entirely because the girls choose to make it that way. Bae and Miori were planning their offcollab while the latter was still at Tsunderia, for example. Ame and Silvervale allegedly knew each other beforehand, but choose not to collab.

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>>33741698
Or when Pekora almost killed herself because they didn't let her do an idea. Or Gura with anything she wants to do. Oh but i bet if Gura wanted to develop a full concert with Tempus they would give her a full budget with a stadium.

Honestly at this point if any girl has an idea all she needs to do is involve Tempus, free permissions and support.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725843
Tourist! Dirty, smelly tourist! Fuck off tourist!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726157
Lurk 10 years before posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
oof poor guy
he trust whores...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33741939
Honestly if Gura is smart she'll learn enough japanese to switch over to jp management.
EN's are clearly a bunch of american saboteurs if their americhink managers cutting off Coco collabs didn't make it clear already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33741939
this whole thing is retarded, putting out a statement with a half-truth just to address some stupid unicorn drama because the clock can't keep her mouth shut

[Anonymous No.]

>>33741801
>HoloEN management hasn’t really stopped the talents from doing outside collabs
That we know of. I'm being optimistic here and believing they just don't want to, but I still find it weird how even the more extroverted members don't try to reach out to smaller agencies since it's a stark difference from both the JP and ID sides.

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>>33724637
1. Not everyone wants to collab with males so separating them is the best move
2. Same as number one, only one time they were allowed to play in girls server was when ID server still separated and it was in ID server
3. They can, but they also smart enough to know which one who will accept the invitation
4. Allowed, if both parties agrees

[Anonymous No.]

>>33739267
Vesper is also a huge hypocrite who hasn't stopped leeching since the collab ban ended.

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>>33742277
Jenma seems like an angel tho. Part of me think its because she's actually Japanese working in Japan. The other EN managers are mostly just Amerimutts working online trying to do the classic Amerimutt activism and fixing Hololive's toxic idol culture.

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>>33742465
Pretty much, I get that impression too. Gura desperately needs a JP manager to free her from the incompetence that pervades EN. She has enough cash to move to Japan by now, she should seriously consider it. She needs 300k liquid cash to get a no questions asked rich mans visa.

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>>33742400
Almost all of them, from Live and Stars, said shit like that about how
>things wont change
>maybe we'll collab once in a while
>for big events
but immediately started speedrunning collabs even before the collab ban was over. Kiara was the only that actually maintained her comments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33742277
She's been doing Japanese lessons for a while now at least so there's a chance. Anything to get away from Omega.

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>>33742759
Mori lied so blatantly it's actually hilarious
>I won't collab with them just because guys, I'll need a good reason to do it
That "good reason"? She wants Tempus cock. Nice one Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>33742357
The more extroverted members are also the type who would complain about management blocking shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33742400
>L buzzword
Bro why are you conceding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33742759
The only thing that has changed is that unicorns are having more meltdowns which is a big plus.
Maybe now they'll learn how to be actual human beings instead of sub human filth who can only watch rom coms and cute girls doing cute things and fears every man in existence.

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>>33743124
Vesper is a hypocrite, leech and a raging faggot who is just as bad if not worse than the rest of the Homos. Look at his old pre-holo clique if you want to know just how cancerous that faggot is

[Anonymous No.]

I do not want to see Tempus female fans start insulting Holo girls. I saw it somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33743216
Fuck off back to Vox roastie

[Anonymous No.]

>>33743216
omg sister so truuuuuuuuuuuuu slay those incels queeeeeen

[Anonymous No.]

>>33742759
Yeah it's really sad to see. I don't know if they're aware that their completely changing the image of their entire branch or if that's the goal.
>>33742876
I remember that I even defended Mori before the collab ban was lifted saying that since she said that it would probably just be like her Rikka collabs.
Someone just laughed and told me I was a moron for believing that. Sadly, it turned out that I was a moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33743218
>Gets called out for conceding
>Proceeds to concede harder

[Anonymous No.]

>>33743431
>Vesper isn't a leech because...Well he just isn't ok!
You have no arguments to make because you know Vesper was full of shit when he talked about collabs because he's the biggest collab whore in Tempus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33743540
Buzz buzz buzz
If you're not going to put any thought into your responses then don't bother replying. Just keep seething and begging for collabs then proceed to bitch on /vt/ because a collab happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725048
And a ching chong to you too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33743790
Vesper is free to turn down collabs. If he actually cared about being part of Stars he would.
Instead he and the rest of Tempus spend a large part of their time trying to escape Stars and become Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725843
nice bait, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
Based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725843
Hi Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726932
it's not a rule, it's something tempus agree amongst themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>33743790
>Collabs don't help you grow
>Please Kronii sama let me collab with you I'll lick your feet for those numbers
Imagine actually defending this pathetic backtracking faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>33741801
>Veibae backing off due to Hololive fan backlash
She was blacklisted after she doubled down on calling hololive a black company.

If she told her fans that hololive banned her, they'd have gone after the company.

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>>33745450
Collabs don't help you grow. Sorry, but its true. Just because i watched the among us collab doesn't mean i'm going to go watch polka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728685
And by fighting you of course mean crying on a taiwanese basket weaving forum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724739
>not responding to the painfully obvious hypocrisies

Fuck off, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724739
fpbp

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>>33725162
How about just answering him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33745749
The answer for those "hypocrisies" is because the majority of the JP side doesn't want to, both Hololive and Holostars. If EN wants to then they can create their own shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33745424
That was a rule the jp stars made for themselves, there has been no indication whatsoever that Tempus has been smart enough to follow it. If anything there's evidence they're too retarded to.

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>>33745614
>doesn't mean i'm going to go watch polka.
Not arguing with your point, but you probably should though, she's a great entertainer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33745614
>>33746724
I personally wasn't sold on her until I watched the Legend of Polka. Now I watch her frequently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33747486
Based. She's incredibly entertaining. Why don't the JP bros watch her more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33747647
Mostly hours and how much she streams a week varies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Gender segregation is the only way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33747735
Though have certainly been clamoring for her for live events as of late.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33736752
This unironically

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>>33724637
Every company will try new things to open to a wider audience. Always has been, always will be. Starting with a community doesn't mean they have to bend to it when they do something else. Hololive still have idols, the ones crying about the male collabs are retarded degenerates that can't just get the whore that fits their tastes because they are too obsessed with the one they were following. Just get over it like everything else.
Also, collabing with males isn't against idol culture, at last not the recent one. Western unicorns are just stuck in time.

>>33726103
>This is a suicide note with my last thoughts
Opinion discarded, I don't listen to bitching

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724739
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726819
D E D I C A T I O N

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724929
either not enough love from their mom, or too much love from their uncle

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>>33724637
For all of these it's because the talents themselves (as in the JP girls) don't want to do these things. No formal rules against them, at least not anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33749551
>Every company will try new things to open to a wider audience.
American bullshit.
The main reason why you're becoming increasingly irrelevant in the global market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33749551
Such an american mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>33750582
Not an American thing, but it’s a recent American thing to shoot yourself in the foot by alienating your core audience in the process, while trying appeal to people who won’t buy what you’re selling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33751624
Funnily enough a lot of Japanese companies that are now focusing on the western (read American) market are also experiencing the same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33751624
>well we're successful with this market but if we captured more of a different market we'd be even more successful. we can't possible lose the customers we already have even if we drastically alter our product! NUMBER MUST GO UP!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724739
BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
We, as real fans, have to keep pushing for the boys to be allowed on those servers. You can tell Yagoo regrets the whole idol gimmick, get rid of it and UNITY.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Thank god they have those rules

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
because their most popular chuuba refuses to (sankisei, gura, aqua)

[Anonymous No.]

>>33747647
She was depressed for awhile and it made people get the wrong impression of her that she's always just kayfabe

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>>33724637
I think you can answer that question yourself. I love the boys, and they've gotten me to check out the JP side more often as well.
>a supportive and open company
No, they are not. Not even to the girls. They are a company, that's all they are.

[Anonymous No.]

Holobronies on suicide watch frfr no cap LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>33759540
kyo has said before that he likes hololive and thinks all vtubers are in it together and should be on good terms with each other
use a fulgur or vox pic instead if you want to be like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
fuck that here knockoff sub filled with faggots and tranny mods.

[Anonymous No.]

aaa

[Anonymous No.]

>>33730085
As someone who loves my goob and also Tempus, based goob

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Males aren't allowed to do shit because they are second-class citizen and deservedly so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33750582
There are ways to try new things that don’t alienate your audience. HoloEN isn’t doing that, but it’s possible.
The audience in the west is just different. The most successful companies are going to be the ones that match that taste, and it’s not JP’s.
Face it, if you want groups of only girls that act like idols/JP vtubers, you’re going to have to look at the smaller corpos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33760196
Fuck right back off to lolcow/crystal cafe, you filthy fucking femcel

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
Yea if you can talk to a girl that mean you can walk into a girl washroom is that what you mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33760583
Hololive was doing just fine as they were though, there is literally no business reason to change. All they’re going to do is make core fans mad while not getting any new fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724739
bump for u :)

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>>33724637
>are males not allowed on the Rust server?
The Rust Server is mostly HoloJP-populated. Most of the girls don't want guys over there.
>are males not allowed on the Minecraft server?
Ever since HoloID merged with HoloEN and HoloJP via the portal, the boys are no longer allowed in HoloID. However. That doesn't apply to the girls coming into StarsJP and StarsEN Minecraft server.
>males can't initiate collabs
StarsJP are more respectful about the girls but are kinda hindered by the culture StarsEN are the same but are given more attention because of the English Language buff.
>are concerts separated events?
Same reason as the first question. Hololive concerts are the girls' performance and Holostars concerts are the boys' performance but if an individual Holotalent has a 3D concert of their own, they can invite the other.
>are off collabs between branches not allowed?
That's a big red flag on stream and is a surefire way to actually get the unicorns riled up. The only exceptions are after their 3D concerts as long as they aren't streamed live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
imagine killing yourself over anime women, I'm glad this faggot is dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33760583
lmao they aren't going to beat fleshtubers with normies. it might get normies to tune in for a hot minute but they'll go back to flesh because normies crave it.

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>>33754494
It's the problem when the population of extremely low revenue (like childrens) are the predominant voice in the internet, all data are biased by the noise of insuferable, short-witted, short attention spam, low purchasing power people who believe they are somehow great because of echo chambers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
When are the NIjiEN collabs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33740046
the axel stuff was made up
the magni thing was true

[Anonymous No.]

>>33769772
Magni was a PoS and a problem I saw coming since the start.
His first stream was him shitting on kayfabe, shitting on people who liked sub milestones, shitting on management. The last one is alright with me, but the fact that he did it right out the gate made it feel like he was just some cocky asshole who felt like he could do anything.
Then I looked up his past and the friends he had and it made sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33728027
They should just stop playing rust and minecraft then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725433
That's not hypocrisy anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33769115
only they are allowed

[Anonymous No.]

>>33744117
being a part of stars and wanting to grow your channel aren't mutually exclusive, if there's an opportunity to grow, they're gonna take it

[Anonymous No.]

>>33770718
Collabs don't help like people think they do. It gives the person a chance to show how interesting they're and boost themselves in the algorithm.
But the current viewers of the bigger streamer will not jump ship unless the smaller one is a god. And this is not a good thing as that is not bringing in new people just poaching viewers and making the other people loose viewers. Which is why you don't spam them, you use them to get some clips out using the bigger guys name to draw people in.
And if it didn't work the first time doing it over and over in a short amount of time isn't going to help. At best you just end up poaching viewers from the bigger streamer(which is what happened to Mori), at worse you alienate both your own and their viewers who then leave for another person or leave the pool altogether.
Magni and Vesper should know this going by their past lives. Why they're ignoring this I do not know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33770932
>And this is not a good thing as that is not bringing in new people just poaching viewers and making the other people loose viewers.
no that's not entirely true, both of them benefit from it. I've seen several Vesties in Kronii's chat and vice versa.

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>>33770718
>if there's an opportunity to grow, they're gonna take it
by causing a fuckton of drama and problems for the girls that made HoloEN succesful in the first place? If you wanna defend them blame the girls and management and say they can't really refuse. Otherwise they really look like a bunch of leeches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
holostars isn't hololive and they will never be

[Anonymous No.]

>>33770932
>>33771421
Collabs can be used as a way to make lower activity or inactive subs show up. A solo game stream? People might sleep on it because they've been subbed to that person for a year and don't feel like they need to show up for every one of them. New or interesting collab partners? People might turn out for that when they'd otherwise not. While it's up to the streamers to make it work, it's another type of potentially fresh content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33771421
Vesties were in Kronii's chat because the collab was on her stream.
Unless you mean in general.
But that goes to same to the girls as well. They're all using the same pool so people who watch Gura probably watch Ame who also watches Mori etc.
What I am getting at is that this is only spreading the hololive EN pool thinner not bringing in new people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33771564
>by causing a fuckton of drama and problems for the girls that made HoloEN succesful in the first place?
only dramaniggers are forcing it, I don't care about that sort of thing when watching vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>33771816
If you mean wake Kronii subs up. She just had her anniversary, Sana graduation, and EN anniversary + Gura 3d live.
If those subs are not awake from that then this wont bring them back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
If the whores want to play with men they can make their own Rust and Minecraft server

[Anonymous No.]

>>33772003
Only one of those on Kronii's channel was the anniversary and it was basically a zatsudan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33772107
I remember the only reason why ID took so long to integrate because Ollie wanted to bring in her male e-celebs and friends to tour the server, and after the long stall and how it went no where since the other IDs also avoided the server she gave in. Never ceases to amuse me along her reclining channel, that one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
EN holds no power over JP rules this was just omegay rage tweeting again and most non retarded people understand that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33772193
Kronii shares a fan pool with all the girls. Outside of Myth most of those fans just magically spawned from a hidden resource.
They were all fans of myth who proceeded to sub to the next branch.
They could of had brought in more people which would of made what you're saying make sense. But they spent the better part of 8 months not streaming that their sub growth slowed to a crawl, and they all overlap on the same hours except Fauna.
So if Gura or Sana has a big event, most of kronii fans will get the alert as they will be subbed to Gura and Sana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33772829 (me)
Most of those fans don't just magically spawn fro m a hidden source*
Late night typo

[Anonymous No.]

>>33772107
Sounds like exactly what Laplus and Towa tried to do and they both got btfo. Towa rejected out right and Laplus caught for it when she tried to sneak in to the e-celeb rust server and discord.
Damn, no wonder the nips hate La+ so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724637
GSH

[Anonymous No.]

>>33772829
>>33772193
>>33772003
>>33771816
>>33770932
>>33770718
>>33744117
Jumping in on this conversation. I think it's clear that EN management is pressuring Holostar EN to collab with females due to how underwhelming their numbers are and they feel that co-collabs is one of the ways to stop the current stagnation of hololives numbers. Since NijisanjiEN is enjoying some growth there even though ACCELERATION is leaving some of their talents in the dust.
The problem with this strategy is it might cripple the growth of the girls who haven't come out in favor of male collabs from the beginning, with Kronii being a good example. She enjoyed a 16k CCVs for her collab with Vesper, but how many of those people clamoring for the collab will be around in the coming months. also her memberships are being heavily padded by gifting now as well, I think it's at least 400-500 gifted members?
Honestly Kronii might buck trends, but seeing how Mori is crashing and burning proving you can only alienate so many people before you run out of viewers, I wouldn't be surprised Kronii's numbers dive after she effectively gave the middle finger to her gachakois.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33725843
(You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>33726103
based, I wish I was brave enough to commit sudoku

[Anonymous No.]

>>33724929
nothing