/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

So who is the next HoloEN to fall from grace? I bet it's going to be Fauna

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>>33706931
>So who is the next HoloEN to fall from grace?
No one. The rest of them are too smart to commit idiotic career fuckups.

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Ina is the only remaining one that would do it but knowing her she's probably waiting it out and seeing how it affects Kronii's income.

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>>33706931
>not letting yourself be controlled by thousands of faceless individuals is a fall from grace

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>>33707053
>Women
>Too smart

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>>33707126
>Women only have free will when they agree with my viewpoint
This post reeks of reddit.

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>>33706931
What are you saying anon, Gura is the only one trying hard, the rest are whores

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>>33707150
Not all women are as dumb as your whore mother, Anon

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>>33706931
>Fauna
She knows her audience and her job, and her roommate gets actual dick. She's as well-adjusted as a chuuba could be and highly unlikely to go menhera.

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>>33707053
as long as greed isn't their sole reason for being a vtuber they'll all do it eventually.

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>>33707239
You're assuming women would act rationally when maximizing profit is their goal. Unfortunately that's now how their thought process works.

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>>33707183
name 1 reason to not collab with men that doesn't have to do with their fans getting uppity.

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>>33707239
>they'll all do it eventually
Except they won't.

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definitely Mumei so she can take some heat off Kronii, it's the dumbest way to show support for her genmate and therefore the route she's most likely to take. Then fauna and lastly Ina. You're welcome

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>>33707309
How about you name a reason to collab with men instead?

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>>33707309
Milking gachikoi.
Being an idolfag yourself and respecting the culture (they exist in JP).
Being a manhating dyke.
Being in a position where you have nothing to gain from doing it.

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>>33707212
Can you not say such things about Fauna?

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>>33707309
because half of them are chinks who hate white people.

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>>33707309
>name one reason not to collab with men that doesn't involve the main reason they shouldn't collab with men
Fans will get uppity.

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>>33707372
that's not how that works. if there is no reason to not collab with men, then i don't have to provide a reason to do it. the only difference between a collab with a man and another woman is that when you collab with a man it triggers the kind of people in your audience that no one with dignity would want in their audience.

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>>33707525
>if you refuse to collab with men you have no dignity
Very progressive of you my dude. Have an updoot.

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>>33707525
So your reason to collab with males is to placate nonfans, got it.
There is no reason you shouldn't work out yet i don't see your fat ass running rounds around the block. You're shitposting here instead.

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>>33707525
So you can't name a single reason. Got it.

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>>33707525
>Collabing with men is a great idea but I can't explain why
wew

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>>33707354
nah, Mumei explicitly said that hololive is one in a life time chance to her, she won't throw it away

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>>33707412
>Milking gachikoi.
that falls under letting your own fans control you
>Being an idolfag yourself and respecting the culture (they exist in JP).
idol culture doesn't involve idols never
>interacting with men in any capacity.
>Being a manhating dyke.
fair enough actually
>Being in a position where you have nothing to gain from doing it.
dignity

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>>33707525
>no reason not to do something is a reason to do it
Actual insane person, you cannot possibly believe this.

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>>33707412
>Milking gachikoi.
that falls under letting your own fans control you
>Being an idolfag yourself and respecting the culture (they exist in JP).
idol culture doesn't involve idols never interacting with men in any capacity.
>Being a manhating dyke.
fair enough actually
>Being in a position where you have nothing to gain from doing it.
dignity

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>>33707525
name a reason to collab with women

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>>33707698
>dignity
There's no dignity in chasing cock

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>>33707803
meant for >>33707372

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>>33707309
Look at how much money a cocksleeve like reimu makes from niji en.

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>EN content so dull that the source of entertainment is to see which girl will talk to a guy next
Darkest timeline.

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>>33707803
Experience is subjective, so any reason given to or to not do anything is a mood.
Joy is easier to take away than to create, so I do not intend to give up something special, a constant source of joy, so people like you can have fun just once.

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>>33707763
>that falls under letting your own fans control you
>women that decide to maximize their profits have no free will
>idol culture doesn't involve idols never interacting with men in any capacity.
Yeah, I never said it did. You seem to not understand Idol culture in the first place, retard. You probably don't know that Usada "I will never collab with males" Pekora was on a stream with a male mahjong pro just last month and that her gachikoi didn't fucking lose it. And you'll be unable to tell me why that is because you're an EOP newfag.
>dignity
I don't understand you homobeggars. You claim that unicorns are all women hating misogynist but then shit on women that refuse to collab with males. Your fucking position makes no sense/ Feels like you're only doing this to virtue signal while completely ignoring the chuubas' wishes At least the other side admit they want to force their position on chuubas and don't give a fuck.

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>>33707803
There's no reason for male to collab with women and vice versa.

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>>33708153
name a reason for a woman to collab with another woman you illiterate faggot.

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>>33706931

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>>33708217
Name a reason for a women to collab with a man. You literally can't.

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>>33708501
the reasons for a woman to collab with a man are exactly the same as with another woman. the only caviat is that you can only do it if you're not a greedy whore only it in for the money.

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>>33707102
Ina just bought a house. She's too smart to make big moves that could negatively impact her job stability.

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>>33708620
hololive is her side gig. gacha companies pay more than gachikoi ever could.

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>>33706931
Saplings would go wild if Fauna would do it.
She is THE GFE mommy vtuber of Hololive EN, her entire schtick is centered on it and her fans are there specifically for it. I don't think that Fauna is that stupid but in case of her actually being... rest in piece for her.

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>>33708562
If they are smart enough they are thinking a fucking lot about the fucking money they cant do this job for the next 40 fucking years you retarded faggot. Its not all about the fucking money sure twitter tranny tell that kronii again when she doesnt have any fucking money in 15 years and a 5 year gap in her fucking resume cause she worked as a fucking woke animegirl and working in fucking starbucks because she doesnt have anything fucking else.

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>>33708843
but imagine all the sapling posting. as someone who finds sapling posting incredibly arousing, there is nothing i want more than for fauna to collab with a man.

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>>33708562
>the reasons for a woman to collab with a man are exactly the same as with another woman.
no they aren't, there are things you don't talk about with men or women, if you think so you are saying men and women are the same thing, which by nature aren't.
>the only caviat is that you can only do it if you're not a greedy whore only it in for the money.
Why are you assuming woman doing independent choices with her carrier are motivated by greed, that's very misogynistic of you... That won't get you reddit gold my dude

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>>33708957
/vt/ will be renamed to /sap/ and be just 24/7 of saplings ranting and posting edited images of dead Fauna till inevitably one of them will track her location and move their wishes to irl.

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>>33706931
KEEP MY MOMMY'S NAME OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MOUTH!!!

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>>33708562
>I want to force you to do things you don’t want to do to push my social agenda
Thanks for admitting you never cared about the talents’ health or wellbeing, you were always just as much of a bully only focused on forcing your standards on everyone else. At least unicorns aren’t hypocrites

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>>33707228
Ironically those with an SO are the safest.
E-boy keeping us safe.

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>>33708992
>no they aren't, there are things you don't talk about with men or women, if you think so you are saying men and women are the same thing, which by nature aren't.
men and women being different doesn't mean that they're absolutely nothing alike and everything is completely different. what even are these "things you don't talk about"?
>Why are you assuming woman doing independent choices with her carrier are motivated by greed
because that's the only reason to not collab with men. it scares away the people who are the easiest to seperate from their money.

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>>33709133
can you read? how did you get any of that from my post? also,
>unicorns aren’t hypocrites
lol

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>>33709156
>what even are these "things you don't talk about"?
he never talked to a woman lmao
>because that's the only reason to not collab with men
again with the misogyny, go back to twitter, before you neck yourself from embarrassment

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>>33709133
I hate woke people so much. We never did any thing to them we're just in our corner of the internet and they still want to shit on us and our hobbies and destroy everything we enjoy. Go watch jersey shore if you want men and women on screen so badly.

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>>33708562
>the reasons for a woman to collab with a man are exactly the same as with another woman
Women should collab with other women because female bonding is very heartwarming and the implications of girl-on-girl sex are hot. Meanwhile, there's absolutely nothing heatwarming about watching a male vtuber flirt with a female vtuber and the implications of man-on-woman sex are cuckoldry which isn't hot at all. Now I've explained why women should collab with women but you still can't explain why women should collab with men because you know there's no good reason for it.

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>>33709156
So if men and women aren’t all that different, what advantages do you get from collabing with a man that you don’t get from collabing from a woman? And no, avoiding alienating your core audience isn’t greed, it’s literally doing your job.Imagine if Mori in her next stream did a Roman salute and started praising Hitler. Of course, that will scare away a lot of people who would be paying customers. Is it greed for her to not be a Nazi on stream? No, that’s just doing her job.

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>>33709295
>I hate woke people so much. We never did any thing to them
They can't tolerate you sitting there in your own corner having a different opinion. They have to take over your corner and destroy you in order to create their perfect world where everyone agrees with them and no dissent exists.

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>>33709217
You want to force vTubers to collab with men. If they don’t collab with men, you think they’re (in your own words) greedy whores that should be harassed. The option of them simply not wanting to collab with men doesn’t even exist in your mind. How is that any different from being just as bad as an “evil unicorn”? You both want to force others into acting the way you want. And you’re a hypocrite because at least unicorns on this board admit they want to control the talents. You on the other hand constantly hide behind the facade of “freedom” and “the streamers’ health”, but the second they don’t do what you want you turn on them as well. And unicorns at least put their money where their mouth is - they watch streams, donate, buy merchandise. What do you do? Nothing. You have no investment, yet you feel like you’re entitled to preach from your ivory tower and everyone else isn’t. Disgusting.

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>>33707053
I disagree, women give into peer pressure all the time, its only a matter of time for the rest of EN to break.

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>>33709620
>they watch streams, donate, buy merchandise
you say that like it's a good thing. the "people" who willingly give their money to vtubers are the lowest of the low.

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>>33709677
>peer pressure
of future bottom feeders kek

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>>33709677
>peer pressure
There is no peer pressure. Kiara for example clearly doesn't give a fuck if Ame if collabs with Tempus and Ame doesn't give a fuck if Kiara never collabs with Tempus.

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>>33709788
so now you jump the shark, that paying to entertainer for entertainment is being mentally ill

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holy shit unicucks are retarded. the lengths they go to further delude themselves. i don't even have anything to say to half the posts itt just because they don't make any sense.

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>>33709788
You're not even pretending anymore

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>>33709896

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>>33706931
IRyS is too close to Mori to survive much longer.

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>>33709883
>paying for free entertainment
you are the ultimate cuck. you might as well burn your money. at least the fire can't "betray" you.

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>>33707309
How about keeping Hololive's best niche strong? If people want to watch big name corpo vtubers and they want girls and boys, they go Nijisanji, if people want just the girls, they go Hololive. If Hololive ends up being like Nijisanji, then what? Now theres two brands giving the same product? What about the long time fans that chose Hololive because they just want the girls? They gotta leave right? I think this is a dumb business move alienating long time fans and if they want the best of both worlds, they should absolutely not shit on either side, find a way to cater to both or accept ruin.

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>>33709969
nothing is free you communist troon

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>>33706931
>I bet it's going to be Fauna
How did you get this thought you fucking idiot?

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>>33710022 (me)
>>33709969
burning money in fire is stupid anecdote, since i use money to watch it burn i paid for it in a sense, but of course your iq is roomtemp to comprehend even that

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>>33707102
>Ina
>not only collabing once a full moon
she is basically an indie at this point

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>>33709295
>only woke people hate unicorns
so this is the cope you're going with now?

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>>33709788
>watching and contributing to streams is bad
And the twitter tranny reveals his final form. If people who watch and give money to vTubers are bad and are driven out of the hobby, then no one will be left to actually watch - this will mean no more vTubers at all. Of course, this was the leftists’ goal all along; it was never about protecting talents, or male female collabs, you just hate vTubing as a whole and want to see it destroyed. It’s nice to see you actually just come out, stop arguing in bad faith, and admit it. And we can all see you for the subversive Jew rat you really are now.

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>>33710116
that's a fact not a cope, before you showed up for gathering reddit gold material, everything was nice and peaceful

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>>33710106
>since i use money to watch it burn i paid for it in a sense
so what you're saying is, giving your money to a vtuber is even more wasteful than burning it. since you couldn't watch the fire without burning your money, but the stream is free regaress.

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>>33706931
The girls with actual boyfriends won't collab unironically, except for some outliers like Mori and Ame I guess

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>>33709969
>paying for free entertainment
The content can't exist without funding from superchats, memberships, and merch sales. It isn't actually free.

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>>33710116
You just admitted you hate vTubing as a whole, you hate all vTuber fans, and you want the entire industry to disappear. Yes you’re woke, yes you’re the problem, and that’s not cope that’s the truth. Unicorns at least actually like vTubers, it’s clear that you don’t

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>>33710234
>but the stream is free regaress.
tell that to all 2views that stopped streaming since they had no income from it

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>>33710206
that doesn't even make any sense you fucking nigger faggot. i can hate unicorns and trannies at the same time. just by talking to you i'm doing both at the same time.

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Why do you keep arguing with the reditroon anons?

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>>33710234
>he talks aobut how girls that don't do male collabs are greedy bitches
>turns out he's the greedy poorfag
pottery

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>>33710404
gatekeeping, something you forget to do all the time

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>>33710367
Unicorns want to preserve vTubing. Twitter trannies want to destroy it.
No, you can’t “hate both”, we all know which side you’re on. At least have the decency to be honest about it.

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>>33710185
i never said watching streams is bad. i don't even understand what made you think i said that. and yes, giving your money to some anime girl on the internet just so she thinks about you for 2 seconds makes you a retard. admitting this doesn't make me a leftist, or a jew, or mean i want to destroy vtubing.

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>>33707763
I watch vtubers that collab with males, and hate the whole simp culture that dominates vtubing, but
>dignity
Almost all of these women are doing things like hiding their boyfriends, lying about themselves to appear more pure (very introverted/strict parents/uninterested in relationships, as if), baiting parasocial relationships, and selling things like pillow cases and voice packs. All of that is done to pander to gachis, and extract money from irresponsible lonely men, which they do with no shame. Doing something to spite unicorns in the middle of all that is not going to restore your dignity, it just makes you a dumb whore and an ingrate.
Speaking of ingrates, if you get success suddenly handed to your loser ass by being associated with a brand that was built, in large part, by catering to gachis, maybe you should be a bit careful about how you handle them, if you decide to take your content in a different direction.

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>>33710299
when did i say that? please kill youself. it's the only way to make the voices stop.

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>>33710572
>and yes, giving your money to some regular streamer on the internet just so they thinks about you for 2 seconds makes you a retard.

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>>33710300
if you become an indie vtuber with the expectation of making a profit you're retarded.

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>>33710676
>if you become a freelancer with the expectation of making a profit you're retarded.

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>>33710638
that too. donating to fleshtubers isn't any better. vtubers are just more relevent to the topic at hand

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>>33710751
>that too. donating to fleshtubers isn't any better. vtubers are just more relevent to the topic at hand
TRUE COLORS REVEALED
EVERYONE POINT AND LAUGH AT THE POORFAG

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>>33710532
i refuse to believe you're actually this retarded. not everything is about politics, and not everyone who disagrees with you on one topic nessisarily disagrees with you on everything else.

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>>33710796
not an argument.

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>>33710893
i stopped arguing with you over you being poor, now skedaddle to twitter and cry about how mean hacker 4chan was to you

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>>33710796
>giving your money to millionares good
>being responsible with your money bad

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>>33711029
keep donating to streamers and we'll see who the poorfag is.

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>>33711032
>giving your money to millionares good
he thinks they are millionaires, ULTIMATE COMMIE FAG

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>>33707102
Ina is the ultimate conflict avoider, she won't do it.

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>>33711087
it will still be you

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>>33706931
>Fauna
Yeah, sure. Keep begging homofart, mommy knows what's she is doing you fucking retard.

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>>33706931
Ina is most likely actually because she isn't clearly for either side in streaming, but clearly isn't opposed to showing up with males for professional events.

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>>33710252
It runs on charity. That doesn't mean it's not free.

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>>33707309
boyfriend doesn't like it.

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>>33711032
>vtubers
>millionares
kek. You're so retarded you don't even understand that vtubers can't exist without donations. To be this retarded about economics you really must be a literal commie troon.

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>>33711186
>It runs on charity. That doesn't mean it's not free.
backpedaling already
just stop man, you lost. people want to donate on their own, you won't stop that by being a shizo on /vt/

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>>33711292
is this cope? It's pure ignorance to believe that vtubers can't exist for the sake of existing after all these years

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>>33711186
Something that requires money to operate is, by definition, not free.

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>>33711397
It is free for the consumer.

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>>33711292
donations are not how vtubers make most of their money. merch, sponsored streams, and even normal ads all make more money for a vtuber than an army of retards who shouldn't be trusted with money.

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>>33707150
All of HoloEN (yes, even mori and kronii) are smarter than you

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>>33711395
A person who has living expenses can't be a vtuber for the sake of being a vtuber. They need to make money so they can afford to live. I'm absolutely positive you're a commie troon now.

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>>33706931
It's either Bae or IRyS thanks to their proximity to Mori.

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>>33711460
>It is free for the consumer.
Vtuber content isn't even free for the consumer because they still have to fund it to keep it going. It's only free for freeloaders.

>>33711477
>donations are not how vtubers make most of their money. merch, sponsored streams, and even normal ads all make more money
I'm sure you have numbers to back this up. Just kidding. I know you don't.

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>>33711498
hololive is communisim incarnate, distributing wealth to people who don't deserve it. Also yeah you're fucking ignorant about 98% of vtubers that just pay a one time avatar fee and make content for little to no returns because they like it

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>>33711498
being a vtuber doesn't have to be your full time job. if it is your full time job; you'll at least be used to living off donations when you're homeless.

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>>33711484
Almost all of HoloEN can't cook and at least 30% of them don't know how to use physical money

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>>33711720
>hololive is communisim incarnate
>consumers freely get to decide whether or not to spend money on Hololive
>consumers freely get to decide how much money each individual talent receives
>the very definition of free market capitalism
>communism
Holy fucking kek. Are you 14 years old?