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HOLO FGO ARC INCOMING
>>33561881>Polka is the la creatividad of JP after all.Still sad that there's no EN version of Polka Legend ... Wonder why ...
PEKO LOVE
>>335619890 sex appeal
Bots vs Bots
jp was right
Don't let this thread distract you from the fact that Pekora still owes Marine an offcollab
>>33562051>HOLO FGO ARC INCOMINGDepends on the perms.
Meh, holoen ceiling is decreasing anyway, the walled cgdct approach clearly isn't working. Allowing male collabs might open new possibilities and new markets like the shipper market. Every weeb related thing nowadays have people huffing romance/shipping copium. Holo non male collab image also looks weird to the outsider crowd too (referring to twitch viewers).
You guys should never ask Pekora to get serious again, it will just be unfair
>>33562150I want MGS peko!
>>33562066Cringe
>>33561859Audience feedback is important to every entertainer.What you are saying is that >the audience has no right to any opinion or preference and >they should just take whatever the entertainer is doing as is, or leave completely without even being allowed to voice any preference or discontent.That's not a healthy mentality. I believe the audience can voice discontent whenever they want, and the entertainer can take the audience discontent in consideration or ignore it as they see fit.
>>33562150Well, tell the sisters to stop getting uppity.
>>33561522>Rofu: Are there exceptions to this rule about collaborations with men?>Michael: Maybe. Sponsored streams are fine for me if it is with an outsider because they pay for advertisement and are not really interested in the VTuber itself. They just want to make money. But that’s about it. I also don’t really care about what she does in her free time as long as she never brings it up on stream. the fucking retard is mistaking unicorns with gachikois. This is the one you are fighting with, and the one that "keeps supporting" your oshi.
>>3356209430%*>>33562115PekoMoon will happen before, she will shill it tomorrow in front of 80k viewers.
>>33562066
More blog and matome sites picked up news about Peko's FGO stream, outlining her 96k ccv and obtaining at least 10k subs over the stream itself.http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/224496
EN 3 premiere starts in 3 hours, premieres 9 hours with an announcement
>>33562132This is why EN3 needs a Kobo, someone who admires and idolizes real streamers instead of any of her predecessors in hololive. She'll break down the walls and bring in the big views since holoEN's current walled off approach won't work for much longer.
>>33561551>Open random stream>Streamer immediately greets me as I am the only viewerAAAAHHH I NEVER THOUGHT THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO ME I CAN'T TAB OUT
>>33562181gay
Looks like Lui applied five times before she got in.https://youtu.be/O5xvU3nQf-8Wonder how many times Koyori applied given her current hunger with streaming.
NijiEN won. Luxiem indirectly killed HoloEN.
>>33561891"Schizo" is the keyword.>>33561986Just because it's prevalent doesn't mean it's fucking normal.The common saying of "voting with your money" is just that, you don't give attention to the things you don't like.The fact that you're saying "I would prefer my oshi do x" is fine normal context, but this stuff ain't normal, parasocial stuff is not normal.
*YESTERDAY’S FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*10,983: Amelia (Hololive)8,789: Fauna (Hololive)7,999: Millie (Nijisanji)6,719: Kaela (Hololive)6,040: Iofifteen (Hololive)5,678: Enna (Nijisanji)5,363: Anya (Hololive)>SEPTEMBER 2022 GAIJIN GOLDS1) Gura (Hololive) - 15,128 - Rust2) Kobo (Hololive) - 31,359 - Valorant collab w/ Milyhya and others3) Noir (Holostars) - 14,791 - Boomer vs Zoomer collab w/ Baelz4) Gura (Hololive) - 30,762 - Gura's Big Brain Games w/ 5 HoloEN and 1 HoloID5) Vox (Nijisanji) - 25,137 - Unarchived karaoke6) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,711 - Plants vs Zombies7) Kiara (Hololive) - 21,528 - Holocure8) Baelz (Hololive) - 13,218 - Unarchived karaoke9) Reine (Hololive) - 12,359 - Birthday VRChat Live10) Gura (Hololive) - 22,264 - Rust11) Gura (Hololive) - 32,232 - Gura's Big Brain Games w/ 5 HoloEN and 1 HoloID12) Linglan (The Box) - 16,575 - Monetization celebration with karaoke13) Amelia (Hololive) - 32,545 - Myth 2nd year anniversary w/ Myth14) Gura (Hololive) - 23,664 - 2nd year anniversary15) Gura (Hololive) - 38,413 - Unarchived karaoke and announcement16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase17) Iofi (Hololive) - 52,809 - 3D showcase18) Gura (Hololive) - 92,264 - 3D live19) Amelia (Hololive) - 10,983 - Rust>GOLD PER STREAMER7: Gura2: Amelia, Baelz1: Kobo, Linglan, Vox, Iofi, Kiara, Moona, Noir, Reine>GOLD PER COMPANYCover - 17Anycolor - 1The Box - 1>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)35: Gura18: Amelia14: Baelz8: Kobo, Linglan7: IRyS6: Fauna, Ina, Mumei, Mysta, Vox5: Iofi, Kiara, Moona, Noir, Reine3: Alban, Enna, Petra, Regis, Risu, Shu, Yugo2: Luca1: Calliope, Magni, Millie
>>33562064Cuz EN suck as compare to JP.And they probably don't have connection and asset to do that kind of show too, Polka have a whole crew with director and Cover studio for that shit
>>33562115And Pekomoon offcollab is more likely to occur before Pekomarine
>>33562224announcement of an announcement?
>>33562254i dont think so
>>3356229917-1-1 lol
>>33562187>feedbackCome the fuck on. By your rationale collab begging is just another feedback.
>>33562254Mori and Vshojo are the ones who sowed the seeds for this to be possible in the first place. This is just the the endpoint of her subversive Western mindset.
>>33562325It's only a matter of time before even her numbers recline. Now that HoloEN endorses male x female collabs, viewers will have to accept it or move on. HoloEN viewership will recline as their audience moves onto smaller corpos because they're looking for proper GFE or NijiEN because they have better male x female collabs. They've unironically set themselves up to have their audience poached by NijiEN.
>>33562310Just like the last 2 en announcements
>>33562064Polka Legend came about because Polka was originally planning to do a talk show, got a pilot episode with Nene off the ground, dropped into depression mode, Kiara busted out HoloTalk before Polka got motivated enough to continue, Polka decided to drop the idea to avoid overlap, and ended up doing Polden some time down the road.
>>33562132They never properly got CGDCT up and running aside from a few bursts. They stream too infrequently and rarely interact with eachother.Cover dropped the ball with their debut strategy. EN3 should have been out there over 6 months ago. A few more members could cover individual laziness much better.
>>33562299Hololive is too strong
>>33562224Every day until youre right anon keep it up
>>33557988Hey news anon>>33546613>>33547073Shellin Burgundy also had a stream for:>3rd anniversary>new Chinese costume reveal>300k subs celebration>in a Mario Kart endurance streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMPN5gRXR-c
>>33562223Oh another tick for Gura. Looks like it's cuz the animation and 3D live.
tally doko
>>33562422ඞ
>>33562132>Het shipping cultureBecause that worked for NijiEN, right?>Twitch viewersBecause NijiEN collabs with Twitch streamers also helped them, right?>NijiEN is in a better position than HoloENBut is not because of the points above rumao
>>33562223Kek, they're also shit posting Liz numbers.
>>33562422Cool, talk again when Gura admits they exist, just maybe then your fantasy may come true.
>>33562223>77: It's official, Pekora is the streaming king. No one can beat her>93: Are you really saying that in front of the queen?kek
>>33562422I thought the general consensus of these threads is that she already declined, which one is it? Damn, there are some dimensional travelers in here huh.
i have no more peko lewds so i'm posting randoms
>>33562223Pekora bringing FGO tourist and Salome touristGura bringing anime tourist from her new anime Kobo bringing Indo touristMarine bringing dance tiktok touristToo much kino happening
CUNT-EYEDSHITSKINTHIRD WORLDSUBHUMANJUNGLE MONKEY.There is no creature on this planet more repugnant than a SEANIGGER.A HUT DWELLER from aMUD FLOODEDCONTINENTAL-SIZED SLUMOVERPOPULATED... SHITHOLE.The SEANIGGER is the lowest life form known to humanity. They are brown, short, ugly as fuck, low-income of less than 2 dollars a day, they roam half-naked in their cluttered shacks.It makes me fucking sick that I have to share this planet with these disgusting shit-flinging flat-nosed mentally-ill SEA APESFACTS:SEAniggers are recognized by the world health authorities as most disproportionately schizophrenic people on the planet.SEAniggers have the smallest microdicks on the planet rocking a length shorter than 4 and a half inches fully erect.SEAniggers have a tradition called "pagpag" which consist of rummaging restaurants trash for leftover food to cook.These brown dicklet stinky SEABABOON mongoloids shit up online communities during SEAMONKEY HOURS with their autistic ESL SEATRASH primitive scribbles typed with their DIRTY PAGPAG TAINTED SEADOG HANDS on their made-in-China bootleg devices.SEA PRIMATES should not be allowed communicate with humans, they should be secluded to harvesting bananas in their JUNGLE-APE, BROWN-BUG, SCHIZOPHRENIA-RIDDLED SHITHOLE so no human has ever to hear their INDOG FLIPBUG MALAYRAT speaking PAGI PAGI SEAMAGGOT TRIBAL GRUNTING NOISES.The SEARODENT repugnancy goes beyond their appearance as SEAWORMS gross 'cuisine' consists of FRIED LOCUST, GRILLED RATS, BAT SOUP and SAGO WORMS (which should be considered as cannibalism by civilized people). Even mother nature hates and tries to get rid of SEA INSECTS as they constantly drown in typhoons, get crushed by their CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE during earthquakes and get buried in mudslides.SEAGARBAGE 'culture' is a disgusting mix rip-off of Indian and Chinese that later was raped by Europeans, Muslims, communist and American occupations. SEA ACARIDS got raped so hard through their history they became a global hot bed of ladyboy sex tourism, true to their national nature of sucking foreign cock. SEA ARTHROPODS don't have a culture, language or religion of their own, their shithole manufactures NOTHING, their economy only consist of exporting natural resources to BETTER COUNTRIES.SEAGIBBONS are useless disgusting insects and America should have Napalmed the whole sub-continent.
>>33562506>Chinese themedRoru rumao, what next? Kuzuha being a Chinese vampire?
>>33562223>>33562555AFUCKINGMIRROR
>>33562560Literally us
With all the blamegame going around there's surprisingly little falling on Tempus members themselves
>>33562187Anon, when you're outnumbered (Literally in this case), you pick your fight smartIt's FINE voicing your opinions, but if you know yours is in the minority, you do it in secret, away from the public, where people cannot see and/or twist your words Like, again, the moment they made that shit public, they already lost
>>33562585OUR KING IS BACK
>>33562506tfw youre forced to pander to the chinese
>>33562398I like how you dodged the rest of the post. Did he characterise your position on the subject correctly?
>>33562566We had people actually trying to claim Kronii was the undisputed number 2 talent in EN when she hasn't been anywhere close to that for months
>THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS VERY THREAD WHO STILL DOUBT HERTIME AND TIME AGAIN SHE PROVES YOUR WRONGKNEEL TO THE ANNIHILATOR OF ANYKARA. THE BESTOWER OF BUFFS. THE CONQUEROR OF CCV. THE DELIVERER OF DISCOMMUNICATION. THE ENHANCER OF ENTERTAINMENT. THE FACILITATOR OF FANS. THE GIFTER OF GOLDS. THE HERO OF HOLOLIVE. THE INSPIRATOR OF INDONESIA. THE JOY OF JAPAN. THE KILLER OF KINGS. THE LEVELER OF LANGUAGE BARRIERS. THE MOTIVATOR OF THE MASSES. THE NEGATOR OF NIJISANJI. THE OWNER OF OJOUSAMA TROPES. THE PROSECUTOR OF PURPLE DRAGON POSTS. THE QUEEN OF QUARRELS. THE RESTRAINER OF RRATS. THE SLAYER OF SUSAN. THE TYRANT OF TRENDS. THE USURPER OF UTAUS. THE VINDICATOR OF VODS. THE WINNER OF WARS.USADA PEKORAFIRST OF HER NAMEQUEEN OF NUMBERSAND PROTECTOR OF THE HOLOBOXKNEEL!
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>96,590: Pekora (Hololive)>34,767: Miko (Hololive)>30,866: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>25,169: Lamy (Hololive)>24,243: Miko (Hololive)>20,865: Luna (Hololive)>18,737: Fubuki (Hololive)>18,679: Shigure Ui (Indie)>18,469: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>17,353: Koyori (Hololive)>16,023: Mio (Hololive)>15,971: Polka (Hololive)>15,890: Korone (Hololive)>15,840: Runa (VSPO)>14,554: Sora (Hololive)>14,270: GatchmanV (Indie)>13,478: Chloe (Hololive)>13,170: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>12,392: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>11,723: Fubuki (Hololive)>11,632: Okayu (Hololive)>11,386: Kanae (Nijisanji)>11,085: Lui (Hololive)>10,983: Ame (Hololive)>10,911: Leos (Nijisanji)>10,631: NeruMero (Indie)A smash hit by Pekora, one Luna, one Runa and a bounty of indies at the tally today
>>33562681>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day218) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order>PER COMPANY17x: Hololive2x Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Pekora3x: Miko2x: Ayame, Marine1x: Botan, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji Sora, Subaru, Suisei>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY168x: Hololive84x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER34x: Pekora17x: Miko16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome10x: Nijisanji, Subaru8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>33562603They're hungry for numbers, can't blame them for that in a numbers thread.
>>33562585CUNT-EYEDSHITSKINTHIRD WORLDSUBHUMANJUNGLE MONKEY.There is no creature on this planet more repugnant than a SEANIGGER.A HUT DWELLER from aMUD FLOODEDCONTINENTAL-SIZED SLUMOVERPOPULATED... SHITHOLE.The SEANIGGER is the lowest life form known to humanity. They are brown, short, ugly as fuck, low-income of less than 2 dollars a day, they roam half-naked in their cluttered shacks.It makes me fucking sick that I have to share this planet with these disgusting shit-flinging flat-nosed mentally-ill SEA APESFACTS:SEAniggers are recognized by the world health authorities as most disproportionately schizophrenic people on the planet.SEAniggers have the smallest microdicks on the planet rocking a length shorter than 4 and a half inches fully erect.SEAniggers have a tradition called "pagpag" which consist of rummaging restaurants trash for leftover food to cook.These brown dicklet stinky SEABABOON mongoloids shit up online communities during SEAMONKEY HOURS with their autistic ESL SEATRASH primitive scribbles typed with their DIRTY PAGPAG TAINTED SEADOG HANDS on their made-in-China bootleg devices.SEA PRIMATES should not be allowed communicate with humans, they should be secluded to harvesting bananas in their JUNGLE-APE, BROWN-BUG, SCHIZOPHRENIA-RIDDLED SHITHOLE so no human has ever to hear their INDOG FLIPBUG MALAYRAT speaking PAGI PAGI SEAMAGGOT TRIBAL GRUNTING NOISES.The SEARODENT repugnancy goes beyond their appearance as SEAWORMS gross 'cuisine' consists of FRIED LOCUST, GRILLED RATS, BAT SOUP and SAGO WORMS (which should be considered as cannibalism by civilized people). Even mother nature hates and tries to get rid of SEA INSECTS as they constantly drown in typhoons, get crushed by their CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE during earthquakes and get buried in mudslides.SEAGARBAGE 'culture' is a disgusting mix rip-off of Indian and Chinese that later was raped by Europeans, Muslims, communist and American occupations. SEA ACARIDS got raped so hard through their history they became a global hot bed of ladyboy sex tourism, true to their national nature of sucking foreign cock. SEA ARTHROPODS don't have a culture, language or religion of their own, their shithole manufactures NOTHING, their economy only consist of exporting natural resources to BETTER COUNTRIES.SEAGIBBONS are useless disgusting insects and America should have Napalmed the whole sub-continent.
>>33562603Why would anyone blame tempiss. The girls fell on the sword of male collabs themselves by choice.
>>33562681>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,240 - Kuzuha Cup PUBG18) Gura (Hololive) - 92,264 - 3D live19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96,590 - Fate/Grand Order>PER COMPANY16x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER4x: Pekora2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko1x: Botan, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY166x: Hololive85x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte4x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER33x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome10x: Nijisanji, Subaru8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya4x: Flare, Fuwa, Noel, Okayu, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>33562560Still feel a little weird they have to say this time and time again. If it is official, announce it once and done. Jeez man, what kind of fans that need to proclaim their talent as a queen or king every now and then as if she is not already.
>>33562681Peko gold. As the world should be.
>wake up>Pekora almost got 100k playing gacha>Gura mogged holy smokes
>>33562679I KNEEL MY QUEEN !
>>33562398>Come the fuck onWhat's ridiculous about this? We all know a good amount of people watch chuubas for this reason. We know a significant amount of the JPs court these types of people and they grew a reputation for this no male content. Why the fuck shouldn't people express their concerns if the content shifts? If you watch a romance show and it suddenly shifts to action schlock do you think that's not valid? Or do you think the prescene of males doesn't effect the content at all? Cause if it didn't then the JP girls wouldn't have avoided males in the first placeAlso I would consider homo begging a form of feedback. I just think it's shit feedback and will voice as much to drone them out.
>>33562456>A few more members could cover individual laziness much better>Even with Council the status quo of streaming hours and average CCV at EN is the same>Even with Tempus there are a lot of empty slots and deads hours still as big as they were when it was just MythUnless EN3 brings a wild card it will change nothing.
>>33562681Fate lewds today?
>>33562681>Pekora gold>Kuzuha bronzeLol.
>>33562632Pekora is not sexy.
>>33562681
>>33562724I don't follow holoEN much, is it true that Tempus reinvigorated the collab game for holoEN and they started being more active after the boys debuted?
>>33562681There are 6 Niji entries in the tally, and 4 entries that are neither Nijisanji nor Hololive. Not a good day for Anycolor.
>>33562181It's quality cringe though, ngl
>>33562566She has declined, she's not #1 in council by any metric except for subs nowadays.floor - fauna is #1ceiling - mumei is #1merch - mumei is #1vod views - fauna is #1the list goes on
>>33562789Bronze boi...
>>33562398>Come the fuck on. By your rationale collab begging is just another feedback.The original example that led to that anon reaction > I wouldn't try to prevent them but I very much prefer they wouldn't collab with Tempusand the paralel was made with> I wouldn't try to prevent them but I very much prefer if Pekora wouldn't play APEXand the point made was that the later is socially acceptable but the former isn't and IMMEDIATELY gets a "morality demerit" associated with it.> By your rationale collab begging is just another feedback.If the feedback is in the same style of the example given> I wouldn't try to force them but I very much prefer they would collab with Tempusyes, of course, it is the exact same situation.
>>33562679I KNEEL
Queens funeral was happening but Pekora was still in the top 10.
>>33562506HAHAHAHA A FUCKING CHINK
>>335626816-16 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>33562566Anon, we've had a few of them drop by (One who didn't know Nobu had reincarnated, making claims about future events that hadn't happened yet etc). No wonder people keep dropping information that makes no sense in the current dimension. God, the poor sods.
>>33562681>>33562814>>33562792GAY
>>33562875Pekora truly is royalty.
>>33562603I saw some kronies try to blame tempus at the start but they were probably just coping. Iic it was something like>Tempus promised to never initiate female collabs>Kronii promised to never initiate male collabsTherefore either Vesper lied or management forced this collab to happen.It was obviously Kronii who initiated the collab given her twitter statement anyway
>>33562823More bodies that are enthusiastic about collabing will do that yeah.
>>33562681Pekora
>>33562681Pekora isn't hot.
>>33562681FIXING HUMANITY HISTORYONE ERA AT A TIMEPRUNING ALL THAT IS UNNECESSARY
The euro shitposter got btfo quickly kek
>>33562681So much Splatoon...
Enna EN gold today?
>>33562681I love that Luna just streamed during EN Primetime and all the kagai niki tuned in.
>>33562681>>33562908
>>33562668What is there to characterize? That I hate unicorn? A blind toddler could see that.>>33562772No one cares about your likes and dislikes, but the moment you're giving the fucking talent problem is the moment you should evaluate yourself.Do you get angry when the media you watch doesn't go the way you want? Of course not, unless you're the type of guy that feels like his opinion should be heard, regardless whether it 's asked or not.
>>33562934Raikou is sex and we need a Raita Holo now but not for EN
>>33562603The people flinging shit are aiming to deconstruct and tear down Hololive, so why attack the vehicle they're using to do it?
>>33562922You forgot your image
>>33562836>Gura >Not #1Rumao
>>33562943 (me)wtf. he is back again.
>>33562566>I thought the general consensus of these threads is that she already declined,The anon making the charts posted this chart the other day, showing that, other than the algo change / end of her debut buff / end of the EN vtuber honeymoon, her number are pretty much stable since march 2021
>>33562681PekoMiko won
>>33562693September is HoloMonth
>>33562681>>33562977
>>33562956Gura is streaming today
>>33563018>Gura>Council>>33563017kek. but he is gone again
>>33563049Gura gold.
>>33563031*PekoMoona
>>33563048>>33563031>>33562681
>>33562853Yet somehow this whole board agrees that collab begging is fucking stupid and bothersome.They're both "feedbacks" but one is universally hated than the other.
>>33563048Unappealing
>>33562681>>33563107
>>33563024what is "true" average?
>>33563101>Pekora gatekeeping the main tally>Gura gatekeeping the cripple tally
>>33563119They both feel weak and needy. I hate them both
>>33562681flatsada chestkora
>>33563094Why did you bring up all those Council's floor and merch in response to a post about Gura, then?
If anyone wants a Kronii membership remember to camp her waiting rooms for the next week, people who wanna own the "unicorns" are gonna be dropping a shit ton of gifted subs.
>>33563172>>33562681
>>33562132>Holo non male collab image also looks weird to the outsider crowd too (referring to twitch viewers)give me one vtuber male x female collab clip that's not weird for those twitch kiddies
>>33563186Luxiem can beat gura just need to find more first time buff streams
>>33563164No need to ask
>>33563172Took a crack at it as well maybe should've adjusted the angle a bit more on mine
>>33563164
>>33562996>No one cares about your likes and dislikesImagine thinking this about in the entertainment world. You never work a day in your life, do you?
>>33562996>Do you get angry when the media you watch doesn't go the way you want? Of course not, unless you're the type of guy that feels like his opinion should be heard, regardless whether it 's asked or notYes you fucking retard. Don't even try to pretend that's not common, you're on fucking 4chan
>>33563245>>33562681
>>33563243Why would I want to listen to her? There should be enough anons or former kroniies around to leak everything she will say anyway
I can never see holoen as cgdct like holojp. It's more of a sub vs dub problem though but i think i am actually not in the minority. Back when holojp exploded on bilibili, the chink users also said the same thing, they cannot watch chink chuubas because it felt fake and awkward compare to sakura girls. Doesn't help that there is no en chuubas who come close to larping like korone, miko, fubuki and etc.
>>33563332
>>33563250Or a full Luxiem collab maybe. I actually wish they would do another full single-POV collab like from June to tell us if and how much they have reclined with tourists.
>>33562996>Do you get angry when the media you watch doesn't go the way you want?retard, literally every media consumer would upset or lose interest if their favorite content not go the way they want
>>33563265ohhh this one is even better ! saved.>>33563245>>33562681
Oh great. Motherfucker, do you not have anything better to do than to spam this nonsense on /#/ at this time of day every day for the past few days?
A bit off topic but did council ever reveal what Sana left on the tower ?
>>33562996>Do you get angry when the media you watch doesn't go the way you want?I literally haven't fucking finished the Cyberpunk anime because I know where it's going and I fucking hate it because Lucy deserves better. It's not only anime or tv shows, if you want I can bitch about the P3P port or Parasite Eve 3rd Birthday until the cows come home because they make me seethe that much. Yes this is a fucking thing, yes people get upset, why the fuck do you think people start worthless petitions?
>>33563263>Male
>>33563024If we assume that Gura is actually reclining, then the explanation of the stability of the graph can be the rarity buff due to less streaming. But having less streams will turn into a debuff in the long run.So it is more accurate to say that she is stable/stagnating.
>>33563119>Yet somehow this whole board agrees that collab begging is fucking stupid and bothersome.In case of the proverbial "collab beggars" tho, the main criticism is their insistence with no morality associated with the statement>I would prefer if Gura had a collab with Tempusin isolation-On the other hand, there is a lot of morality associated with>I would prefer if Kronii didn't have a collab with TempusIn any hobby, when a symmetrical situation like this is judged on "morality values" instead of objectively, the cycle mentioned at >>33559500 always follows, with the last step ALWAYS being >excommunicating the people with the opinion bearing the wrong morality.This, again, is an exercise in futurology, something that might or might not come to be.If it doesn't, feel free to grudgepost but if you do, remember to drop a >anon did mention this X months ago, he was rightcomment too
>>33563306Get off your high horse, you're not "in the entertainment world", none of us are.We are all both just a fucking consumer.>>33563324Again, "prevalent" doesn't mean "normal", and if you're truly that type of guy then I hope you stay the fuck away from my oshis.
>>33562506now i dunno if its chun li and all the wu-shu novels but i do tend to enjoy the more traditional chinese clothing
>>33563459>>33562681
>>33563469NO, THEY HAVEN'T AND NOW I'M ACTUALLY KINDA PISSED THEY STILL HAVEN'T HAULED THEIR ASSES UP THERE!
I still have this question asked again, and I hope I have some meaningful answers since I got shit on before.Pekora brings in a lot of tourists today, beating Gura 3D and everyone agrees it is phenomenal. How come when I say that Lamy getting 27k? on Rust also due to tourists or whatever, beating Gura as well on the same game, thus Lamy is more valuable/relevant/popular/etc than Gura because she still can bring in the tourist while Gura cant, no one agrees, the heck?
>>33563489>rarity buffShe streams way too much for it to be a rarity buff and even if it was we know that stuff like return streams barely have an affect for EN streams
>>33562681>>33563518
>>33562675>We had people actually trying to claim Kronii was the undisputed number 2 talent in EN when she hasn't been anywhere close to that for monthsWho the hell said that? I remember saying that Kronii threw away the opportunity to be the #2 girl in HoloEN in the last thread by being lazy and boring.
>>33563545>>33562681
>>33563516>consumerSo as one, I should just swallow whatever they offer on the table even if it's shit? Is that how being a customer works for you?
>>33563238I am actually NTA. And the Council post is actually about Kronii.
>>33563472You misunderstand me, getting upset if fine, what is not fine is if you send DM to the director of Cyberpunk anime to voice your displeasure.Feedback is not just some words, giving it when unasked is a sign of narcissism.
>>33562681.
>>33563568EN tourists are switching to nijiensimple as that
>>33563469Who?- everyone in HoloEn probaby
>>33563605>>33562681
>>33563469Don't think so. They wanted to do it together but don't seem able to synchronize and haven't even mentioned it in a while. At this point we'll probably end up seeing it the next time Haachama or someone goes meandering around in the EN server.
>>33563176>what is "true" average?It's in the chart title, it is the average of the streams in the period stitched together.>why "true"Because it was not possible to compute this based on publicly available data back then (before vrabi and vstats), people simply did a simpler>average of peakswhich is not as relevant as the "true" average>>33563489>If we assume that Gura is actually reclining, then the explanation of the stability of the graphIf you start from the conclusion and try to reason your way to fit the data you don't really have a very good model, just an attempt to fit your existing idea into what you measured.Gura CCV is very consistent and, other than in periods of very poor choice of entertainment, always hover around 20k as the chart shows
>>33563548Oh, I thought they were going to do it on the anniversary and I miss it. Guess everyone just.. forgot
>>33563568Shhhh, you'll wake the gen 5 schizo who is also an ENshart.>>33562681>>33563590
>>33562996You are completely delusional. Everyone expresses their opinion about media all the time.
>>33563568Because it's not true? Noone would argue in good faith that Lamy is more popular than Gura, EN vs JP timeloops are just retarded in general
>>33563651Uh, wouldn't it have been the best idea to do it shortly after Sana left? Leaving it off until now just makes it seem like they don't give a shit about her.
What's their monthly median
>>33563250Sure they can for a handful of days a year. Then they will spend the rest of the year seething that they are unable to capture an audience that big for regular streams like Vox.
>>33562681>>33563676
>>33563647>>33562681
>>33563690True, EN can't even compete against JP after all.
>>33563627>, what is not fine is if you send DM to the director of Cyberpunk anime to voice your displeasure.REMINDER THAT PEOPLE WERE SENDING LAURA BAILEY DEATH THREATS BECAUSE OF HER JUST VOICING A FUCKING CHARACTER IN THE LAST OF US 2
>>33562681>>33563750
>>33563568Rust is an established streaming environment with regulars from other Holo members streams, not tourists. Fate was for the most part uncharted territory to Holo and a lot of people watching were new people coming in to see what's the big deal thanks to the Twitter trend it generated, hence tourists. Nousagi on Peko's chat even went out of their way to gift memberships to keep the new people around
>>33563765>>33562681
>>33563703They don't give a shit about minecraft and they probably barely give a shit about her. Fauna is the only one who's even booted up the game in like a month
>>33563502Anon, none of the collab beggars turns into anti when they got ignored, at last none that I saw.On the other hand, we got some fine specimens from the unicorn side that literally said they're gonna anti. Do you see why I got so fucking upset?All I want is to just watch my oshis stream, yet this fucking issue would hung heavy on their heads and preventing them from being productive.
>>33563469>A bit off topic but did council ever reveal what Sana left on the tower ?Fauna keeps on bringing it up every time she passes by the tower but nothing ever comes of it.
>>33562681>>33563813
>>33563832>>33562681
>>33562681all me
>>33563385It’s the fundamental differences of “I do what my audiences want” vs EN “I will and can do whatever I want” mentality
>>33563385you will never be japanese, ken-sama
Seems like this is just another pekora thread now
>>33563469Fauna is the only one who remembers, and has mentioned that it's been difficult getting people together for it.
>>33563568>Pekora brings in a lot of tourists today (...) everyone agrees it is phenomenal> How come when I say that Lamy getting 27k? on Rust (...) beating Gura (...) thus Lamy is more valuable/relevant/popular/etc than Gura >no one agrees, the heck?The answer to your question is in the question itself.People consider Pekora feat phenomenal because it is just that, a phenomenon, something that happened to happen with an exceptional and remarkable result.There is no comparison with anything (except maybe Salome equally touristic first weeks ,Fubuki Akai Naa or Miko WWE) and specially no attempt to generalize this one happenstance to anything greater than itself.Now saying "Lamy is more X than Gura because she got 27k on Rust" is not only not the same thing, it is also silly and, unlike the Pekora example, goes straight into the contextless comparison
>>33563900>>33562681
>>33563608Yes, as long as you're not asked then you should just stay silent, or at least grumble to yourself.If you have some displeasure with said media then find other media.
>Earnestly track VODs and have a good time with seeing the rate of views of which a VOD gets from the vtuber community>See Pekora already has 700k views in 2 hours processing for FGO because of the twitter outsiders and rabid FGO fansAlright well, you guys won’t need me to track this one. It’s big lol though I’m wondering how big it’ll go
>>33562681>>33563896
>>33562681>all those viewers for a shitty gacha """""game"""""Japan has fallen.
>>33562681end
>>33563489I think it's more accurate to say that Gura doesn't really bring in tourists like she used to, but that applies to all of Myth generally. If anything I think she might have increased her devoted fanbase since she can get 20k on almost anything nowadays when she was fairly commonly below that at certain points earlier this year.
>>33564004
>Enna doomposting about how ugly she is IRLjesus lord Enna calm down
>>33564013sex
>>33563826I have never seen a fanbase like nousagi, they just KNOW what they need to do and when to increase her number in anyway possible. Also they constantly advertise her on TwitterHaving such a cooperative fanbase is the dream of many chuuba
>>33563952But the others don't even need to stream, they can just be in on voice chat while Fauna does the sole POV...
>>33562064Uhh, Polden has EN subtitles though?Unless you mean actual variety show stuff from HoloEN, in case roru
>>33563966Too big, Pekora has barely anything there.
>>33563679Again, JUST BECAUSE IT'S PREVALENT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOOD.Ever noticed why the current state of media is so risk averse? It's because of this.
>>33562084
>>33563966>>33562681
>>33563990Wonder if Sony will cave and grant full permissions
>>33563651Fauna does mention it whenever she plays Minecraft, but she doesn't seem to be able to get it organized. They also still need to build the ID portal.
>>33563948You seem to be a newfag heh? It's always like that 5 days per month at the very least.>>33562681>>33563997
>>33563948>now
I wonder what holoEN would look like if they actually got like 20 members over their first 2 years like jp did.
>>33564098i love all tiddies simple as>>33564130>>33562681
>>33563880>none of the collab beggars turns into antiWe literally have this thread favorite punching bag as an biggest example. Obo* fucker behavior is inline with what anti do.
>>33563988Ah, so now I no longer have the freedom of speech? Maybe I should live move uo North Korea while I'm at it?
>>33563948I was hoping we'd get Fate thread but I guess the only ones actually putting effort in posting images are the usual Pekoposters
>>33562681>>33564166
>>33563627>if you send DM to the director of Cyberpunk anime to voice your displeasure.That's just poor form, DM'ing a stranger on social media is as crass as cold calling their home number, even if it was to give a raving praise.Now, they have a clear path for feedback to be givenhttps://support.cdprojektred.com/en/cyberpunk/xbox/content-policies/issue/1589/i-want-to-give-feedback-3>I want to give feedback >To share your ideas and suggestions with us, please visit our forums.>Give Feedbackhttps://forums.cdprojektred.com/index.php?forums/cyberpunk.31/In your opinion, if someone follow these instructions and make the following post at their forum>I live your game but I would prefer another voice actor for the role of Xwould you consider that "narcisistic" as well, or just feedback as requested?
>>33563802> twitter """death threats"""another multiversal traveler, welcome.are murders over twitter common over there?
>>33564131>SonyWhat? You mean FGO global perms?I thought Cover already has that.
>>33563502Homobeggers will be homobeggers, but its clear that cover wouldnt make any of them collab with someone they dont want to. if we're allowed to draw from holoJP as an example, towa collabs with males all the time, luna, kanata, and watame have done no such thing (unless tamaki counts which i dont)
https://youtu.be/fDeXAg3EnR0Kenzokus......
>>33563948She tried her best to not get gold for the first half of this month but still failed and still got the most number of gold
>>33564192>>33562681
>>33564030Iirc median chart anon has said as much. That when you look past her initial several months after debut she's been having some of the best months of her career.
>>33563826You can see good amount of greynames in every Rust streams, Miko even turns her member only chat to filter these niggers. They're all tourist from streamer server
>>33564194Accelerated drama since they'd also have male members early and the same shit would happen, except maybe worse because Cover had less time to vet the grifter-filled pool of western streaming
>>33564204Anon, in case you haven't realized it yet, you're speaking to a chink. They have no idea wha freedom is.
>>33563990Always feel weird that Pekora can get this big, but if she upload a short 5-10m clip of her playing the same thing, it will flop. Almost as if her subscribers are not active at all and those Japanese use app or website to check Live. Very similar to smart TV usage in Asian countries.
>>33564131It’s still up to TypeMoonSony only give financial support and Studio A-1
>>33563669>If you start from the conclusion and try to reason your way to fit the data you don't really have a very good model, just an attempt to fit your existing idea into what you measured.I know. That is exactly why I used that reasoning (forcing the data to agree on your preconceived notions) to show that the notion that Gura reclined is false because we cannot force the data to agree with it.
>>33563880>Do you see why I got so fucking upset?Yes. You take the worst examples of the side you attributed a negative morality mark, and ignore the worst examples of the side you attributed a positive morality mark.
lol, what the hell. Just playing the right games is more popular than expensive 3D Lives. Cover should be putting more people on game permissions, not having one guy take a vacation.
>>33564265>>33562681
>>33563880>preventing them from being productive.>HoloEN
>>33562603There's already a thread in the catalogue discussing this. Simply put, the boys are alright. They didn't do anything wrong except possibly always accepting collab requests from HoloEN (but can I blame them? They need to grow somehow). They also indicated that they won't collab with HoloEN unless invited by them, which shows they know their place. The girls (i.e. Kronii) have more autonomy and power in deciding collabs with Tempus which is why most of unicorns' ire is directed towards the girls.
>>33564227FGO fags BTFO'D!>>33562681>>33564240
>>33564388Check Kronii's latest schedule, she's the most productive she's ever been in ages now that she resolved the unicorn problem.
>>33562224what day is it in your universe anon?
>>33564385>>33562681
>>33564202Do you see Oboretai typing on Kronii prechat on how they would anti her?>>33564204This is why I hate burger version of "freedom of speech". It literally turns into "I do whatever the fuck I want, other people be damned".Why don't you try and criticize people on the street to their face, see how far your beloved "freedom of speech" would take you.
>>33564301I said holoen not starsen or holoproenMore bodies for collabs. More overlap but also less dead slots. Meh oh well
>>33564363Before the permissions arc happened isn't that what everyone did? Just stream whatever they felt like streaming?
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*Here it goes>9/19 Daily Tally10,983: Amelia (Hololive)8,789: Fauna (Hololive)7,999: Millie (Nijisanji)5,678: Enna (Nijisanji)>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR SEPTEMBER1. Gura (Hololive) - 15,128 (RUST)2. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 21,274 (English Telephone Game)3. Noir (Hololive) - 14,791 (Boomer vs. Zoomer game w/Baelz)4. Gura (Hololive) - 30,762 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)5. Vox (Nijisanji) – 25,137 (Unarchived Karaoke)6. Baelz (Hololive) - 11,711 (Plants vs. Zombies)7. Kiara (Hololive) - 21,528 (Holocure: Save the Fans)8. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,218 (Unarchived Karaoke)9. Ina (Hololive) - 12,053 (RUST)10. Gura (Hololive) - 22,264 (Holocure: Save the Fans)11. Gura (Hololive) - 32,232 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)12. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,560 (Holocure: Save the Fans)13. Amelia (Hololive) - 32,545 (Myth 2nd Year Anniversary)14. Gura (Hololive) - 23,667 (2 year anniversary)15. Gura (Hololive) - 38,413 (Unarchived Karaoke + Announcements)16. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,687 (Holocure: Save the Fans)17. Amelia (Hololive) - 16,478 (Worms Tournament w/Mori, Reine, Regis, Axel, Magni, and Noir)18. Gura (Hololive) - 92,297 (Gura 3D Live)19. Amelia (Hololive) - 10,983 (RUST)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 17Nijisanji - 2Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER7x: Gura3x: Amelia2x: Baelz, IRyS1x: Yugo, Noir, Vox, Kiara, Ina>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)35p: Gura20p: Amelia16p: Baelz12p: IRyS8p: Ina, Mysta, Fauna7p: Mumei, Vox, Luca6p: Shu5p: Yugo, Noir, Kiara4p: Enna3p: Alban, Regis, Mori, Petra, Magni1p: Rosemi, Maria, Millie
>>33562249Oh she beat Nene's record.
>>33563884I guess at this point it would get reveal when someone just fly by it
>>33564426>she's the most productive she's ever been in agesshe has literally 1 solo public stream and 1 collab stream and the rest of the streams collabs aren't even on her channel
>>33562422are you from the timeline where the Queen installed her brain into a jar?
>>33564329Fuck off burger, your Freedom of Speech fucking suck, I would rather prefer Japan version.
>>33564338She cultivated an audience who watch stream, GAMES stream specificallyIt’s just natural seeing how 99% of her VODs are game stream
>>33564464>3 AmeNICE
>>33564448>>33562681
>>33564487The thing is Fauna is the only one that plays anymore lol
>>33564453You can't have one without the other, if they accelerated the female gens they'd also accelerate the males if you want it to be the exact same situation with JP.
>>33562681>>33564423
>>33564544>>33562681
Amerimut's freedom of speech go against your normal vtuber culture. Freedom of speech is more suitable for twitch streamer culture but look what happens there daily kek.
>crytoscams still theregood to know that the ccvid happened for fucking nothing
>>33564517So basically business as usual.
>>33562681>>33564591
>>33563952It's just going up the tower and seeing it and maybe talking about Sana. It would be an hour or 2 at best, how do they not have the time for that ?
>>33562506>endurance stream>1hr
>>33562681>>33564610
>>33562249Didn't Mel and IRyS get her in?
>>33564450>>33564531Nijiseethe.
>>33563489Gura is reclining a bit because the rest of HoloEN is imploding, which means fewer viewers for the EN timezone box.
>>33564464>4 entries in wheelchair tallyAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>33563880Also this board is a poor example anon. The board has always leaned more on preferring girls only, when sth go opposite to this stance, retard anti for this reason will come from here first. Now let do the opposite with a group that always pro collab and one member suddenly decide they'd stop mentioning and collabing with another member, you'll see anti crawling out from the collab beggars side more clearly.
>>33564255>but its clear that cover wouldnt make any of themI am not saying they would.Everything I said so far was about the behaviour of thei audience, not the company.Cover already said in unambiguous terms in multiple times that they neither exercise any editorial control over what the girls do nor exercise any control over what the girls do outside their streams in their personal lives.I do not believe they would force the girls to do anything.All I am saying can be summarize with this simple sentence>From the moment the audience accepts that>I would prefer X to happenis an acceptable opinion but>I would prefer X not to happenis *not* an acceptable opinion and carries a morally reprehensible connotation, it is a matter of time until "X must happen" becomes the new demand from the same audience, because anyone objecting is automatically excommunicated
>>33562603Kronii is killing her brand, Tempus is just a weapon to her.Sane folks blame whoever holds the weapon.
>>33564246How is that not similar to writing multiple paragraphs of your displeasure on Kronii's comment?Again, I would prefer people to voice their displeasure civilly, but you know they can't.Saying "I would rather have this actor playing x" on twitter is fine, sending the related parties DM is not.
>>33564363You only realize this now? Miko WWE, Aqua Apex, Subaru Persona, Pekora MGS back then and Marine Passpartout didn’t cue you in?Actually might as well change Pekora to “Any gacha/gambling game ever”. Some people have natural affinity with certain kind of contents, games are no differences
>>33564681>>33562681
>>33562679I fucking kneel PekoGil-sama
>>33564641its only >freedom of speech to say whatever twitter fucking wants you to
>>33564646PekoMetronome's numbers, gone to dust...>>33562681>>33564664
>>33564670She tried doing exactly that almost immediately after Sana graduated and both Mumei and her had Minecraft on their schedule but literally NO ONE wanted to bend their schedules (IRyS had a schedule out at the time and a stream like an hour or two after) so no they clearly don't have the time or don't care.
I'm going to join ayamy's fanbox bros..
>>33562731you're getting slow anon >>33562693
>>33564464>10 Nijis in 1 stream losing to part 14 of Fauna playing Skyrim like an autist.Jesus fuck that's grim.
>>33564744>>33562681
>>33564354Again, I never saw someone turned anti because their collab begging "feedback" was ignored.If you have the evidence that says otherwise I would be thankful if you could point me to it.
So who are the good ENs left?
What numbers are ID1 getting tomorrow?
>>33562681>>33564804
>>33564532Yeah, even Watame over time was able to get her skit series running with great number so it's just nature of the fanbase.
>>3356484912 Nijis
>>33563669What is it averaging? Average CCV?
the daily fykkuu 500$ donation to leader, the bois eating well
>>33564700The problem is, it never stays on this fucking board.
>>33564882Enna
>>33564895below pekora
I think I understand Ennaschizo now. She's so relatable.
>>33562681>>33564911
Guy check out who notSana is following. We might find clues about EN3 lmao
>>33564868>>33562681
>>33564882towa
>>33564820It's not like they had to go out of their way either, have Fauna/Mumei stream, have the others log into MC and discord but not put up a stream, everyone go up to the top and take a peek, talk a bit, maybe they're done in like 15 min and everyone besides those who wanted to play MC can go fuck off to do whatever they want...
>>3356489570k
>>33564450I saw that faggot repeatedly shaming other Holomem cuz they wouldn't collab with Stars, like what he did with La+.
>glance at the views>over 700k already
>>33562681>>33565009
>>33565032>>33562681
>>33565026she wouldnt be so retarded, right?
>>33564732>How is that not similar to writing multiple paragraphs of your displeasure on Kronii's comment?>Again, I would prefer people to voice their displeasure civilly, but you know they can't.I agree and I'm not talking about that either. I am talking about the audience talking among themselves, it is rude as fuck to pester the talent with one's demands, in that respect you are right that collab beggars and "unicorns" are equally as distasteful. But if the audience, in an audience's forum (let's say, Reddit), assign different morality to these two symmetrical statemetns>I would prefer if Kronii would collab with Tempus>I would prefer if Kronii would not collab with Tempusand if the later is considered a "morally reprehensible opinion" even in this mild, meek state, it is a matter of time until the "dominance" step because the "forced inclusion" is already setting in.
>>33565071Shaming them on their stream comment section?Can you share the link?
>>33564464Ame 3 gold...EN Finished
>>33562681>>33565104
>>33564450Nigger, if a fucking asshole comes into the park I like and frequent and start shitting willy nilly on the grass, I am morally and legally within my rights to fucking dunk on him.No fucking wonder you fucking chinks are getting assblasted daily by the CCP if you got brainwashed that even complaining is being a fucking narcissist.
>>33564895Less than Pekora unfortunately...I'll try to shill the live in her chat for the FGO tourists but this will most likely not change anything to the IDs numbers.>>33562681>>33565091
>>33564895I would like a horse race between Pekora and ID1, dont know if its possible though
>>33565154Pretty sure he is talking about Oroboretai, Nijifag/homo clipper.
>>33564960Ennaschizo already ditched her and moved to Noir, if that anon is not larping. I wonder how the schizo felt after the Noir Kronii 1-1 collab. It feels like he is the bringer of disaster.
>>33565172>>33562681
>>33564072Pure pitybait. She looks like the most generic Asian Canadian ever, not bad looking at all. Honestly she's probably one of the best looking girls in NijiEN. Top 5 easily.
I thought that was Mumei for a second and my heart stopped
>>33564742Miko WWE is kind of an outliner, she made a shite game into a spectacle over time, not using already popular ones. In that case it is not because of the content but because of her. Marine is her normal chatting stream in disguise so I agree.
>>33565230Will never be sexy
>>33562681>>33565182Gilgamesh<<<<Erza Scarlet :^ )
>>33564945Yes. There is the median of peak CCV, which is taken from the peaks>the number which half the set is above it and half the set is below itand the true average, which is>sum of (average of stream * stream time) / sum of (stream time)
>>33565139Anon, you don't have to doompost when we literally have the proof it wouldn't likely to happen in the form of JP holomen.Matsuri and Fubuki collabed with stars multiple times yet Haachama is still doing her own thing.
>>33564958Nothing is anon, the sisters don't stay on their dox site either. When sth is big enough, there'll always be containment breaker.
>>33563469They don’t care except Fauna. Council unity barely existed when Sana was around and now it’s completely dead. Kinda feel bad for her cause she was the one trying to keep it alive iirc
>>33562681>>33565230
>>33563385EN doesn't really have "cute" girls other than Gura, Ina, Fauna and Irys I would say.Mori is... well y'know.Kiara was and is a banshee.Amelia WAS a cute girl, but the salt on stream often went beyond the level of acceptance, which eroded her "cute" factor over time.So even with Myth, we were at 2/5 cute girls.Council, well...Kronii was "cool" but never cute. Dorky, sure, and that can be "cute" to some people but it's not the general definition of "cute".Mumei is cute but her autism often reduces the cuteness buff rather than enhances it (idk how Migo manages to do it).Bae is too zoomer. Cute as a retarded sister-like figure, but not as a girl (ew).Sana was too bogan.That's a total of 4/11 girls who are "cute".HoloEN was just "retarded girls occasionally being cute" as a brand. Even from the start, their sole advantage was that they were somewhat like HoloJP and spoke English (just like how Hana got her initial audience). That charm has long since faded for most of them (other than the ones who have managed to figure out their identity and brand).
>>33562603I've seen all this before. When the blame game shifts to Tempus they'll be in much more hot water. Right now the thinking is that everything will be fine if the girls just ignore Tempus, so the girls are being blamed for not doing that. But over time the thinking will change into wanting Tempus to stop existing, since the girls won't control themselves.
>>33562681>>33565286
I wonder if the JPs are now allowed to overlap ID. I think the ID1 live is not that big of an event as the 3D showcase. If overlaps are allowed, then I predict 20k minimum. If not, then 45k minimum.
>>33564742Pekora's stream today was pure tourists who won't be back. If she streams this again it won't come close to the numbers she got today. Miko's WWE on the other hand kept growing everytime she did it capped off with a 100k+ stream. Now that is a true phenomenon.I don't know why it's ok to trash Niji when they rely tourists but it's not ok to trash Pekora when she relies on tourists. Either way, I can't wait to grudgepost noutoddlers the next time Pekora streams with stuff like "where did the 96k go?" You fags do that to Niji all the time.
>>33565327>>33562681
>>33565338How did holoJP avoid this from happening?
>>33565272It’s the same thing. It was Miko who was able to make it big, no one else would be able toMy point is that people have natural affinity with different games. That’s why I shrug when people try to apply JP buff games to EN
>>33562681>>33565346
>>33565186I know, you're saying Oboretai named and shamed holomen whom he perceived don't like male collab, right?I'm asking if you can point me to the evidence, even screenshot is fine, I could work with it.
Its a good to be amamy's boyfriend
>>33565336>EN doesn't really have "cute" girls other than Gura, Ina, Fauna and Irys I would say>Ina, Fauna and Irys
>>33565401>>33562681
>>33565234Damn... I might have to become an aloupeep now
>>33565323I thought when Council debuted they were dubbed the unity gen compared to Myth, something about chemistry and stuff.
>already swept the month in Gaijin, EN and Regular tallywhen will niji get serious? they have more "livers" as they always say. may be its because it's livers and not vtubers.
>>33565379>If she streams this again it won't come close to the numbers she got todayof course not, yesterday was a holiday in japan also there is a typhoon
>>33565336>Bae is too zoomer. Cute as a retarded sister-like figure, but not as a girl (ew).I want to mate press your sister.
>>33565434*day
>>33565379>relythat's because you dont know the meaning of that word
>>33565442Fauna is cute you nigger.Ina is too but she's boring.IRyS' personality is somewhat cute but her model is awful
>>33565451>>33562681
>>33565379So where did the 100k WWE tourist go?Just be honest and say you are assblasted Nijisis instead of trying to make argument that make you look even dumber
>>33565336>La goblina>Cute girl
>>33565415They didn't, they were flamed heavily and some even got death threats.
>>33562681>>33565419
>>33565139The difference is Kronii has already said that she will collab with Tempus therefore> I would prefer if Kronii would not collab with TempusIs seen as people trying to control the streamer.
>>33565154Anon you're very nitpicky rn. You said none would turn anti if they're being ignored, i gave you the biggest example. Now you're asking for this specific method of anti?
>>33565525>>33562681
>>33565416Well, it is still not an affinity, those you list are already popular ones (save for Marine's) so it attracts the outsider (because it is popular), not an affinity. An affinity is something like an inherent thing, this talent plays this and immediately attract the outsiders which Miko didnt have at first at all. Of course over time it built up but technically speaking it is not an affinity.
>>33565379>Let's trash Pekora because she got good numbersDo Nijifans really?
>>33565467They basically grew apart faster than myth did. It didn’t help Sana never fucking streamed.
Was pekora made for breeding? she is a rabbit after all
>>33563703>makes it seem like they don't give a shit about her.This was not obvious?The two instances where a beloved HoloJP talent left the company (Coco and Rushia) you felt the ripples of their absence for MONTHS.Kanata's Wonder Ladder song came out just a few days after she left and had a stealth reference, almost every Holo had an emotional moment with her, and the mood in general was dour as HELL for a while while they picked up the pieces.Rushia was a different circumstance, but no less remembered. Fubuki said she wanted her to be there on stage with them after Holofes. In every sankisei live since she left, they sang a song in memory of her. Pekora still mentions her on stream from time to time when looking back on her career.Sana...Watame referenced how they talked and played games off stream.No other EN really brought her up since then afaik.
>>33565592>>33562681
>>33565574i dont see twitter retards stopping with the guy ships even though kronii the dyke said shes not confortable with them
>>33562681>>33565575
>>33565602Right but those specific game are buff for them and only them
>>33564517This combined with indie debuff games is basically the Kronii experience at this point.
>>33565604Tourists don't count so yes, I will trash her. She had to create a tourist trap stream to get numbers. That is what Nijisanji does and we trash them for it all the time. Pekora deserves to be trashed too.
>>33565630yeah by me>>33565662>>33562681
>>33565467They are more Unity than Myth in the sense that they don't seem to fucking hate each other so it's a low bar.
>>33564252only up to a certain point (which she will reach next stream).
>>33565379Where is your amogus skin, 35pagpag?>>33562681>>33565686
>>33565583Uh, are you saying that Oboretai "anti'd" the girls...by doing what exactly?I have the extreme example of unicorn-turned-anti in the form of Gabe, I don't have the opposite side example, that's why I'm asking you if you have any evidence at all.
This guy still going after HoloEn members. Towa followed Luca after that bgm drama, you think Ren will finally get a reply?https://twitter.com/RenZott0/status/1571911241731538945
Kiara likes her numbers!
>>33565729>>33562681
>>33565427He deleted his first post so this is what's left. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvX5WR21vRQtA9Fy9GVcGDw/communityHe has also multiple times complained about The girls not shilling the boys and blaming them for their poor numbers, but those are also gone.https://www.reddit.com/user/OboretaiHe also went on a giant nijibeggar tirade on the holo sub on his reddit account.
>>33562681>>33565752
>>33565427You're asking for him chatting in a talent stream telling them he'd anti them for not collabing then hell no do i have that shit. I do have his community post cand clip comment though.
>>33565691That is quite a big "may be", if Marine plays FGO and still gets big number then it is not the affinity. Pekora can play Persona and get more than Subaru I bet (she has 40k playing Yakuza), that game and JRPG 2 huge buffs so not affinity. Now, Subaru watchalong though, I can say that is an affinity.
>>33565795>>33562681
>>33565719Let’s not forget that she beat your King number playing the same game just yesterdayToday was purely a flex to make you seethe. She never need it to beat NijiJP, let along NijiEN, so keep seething
>>33562681>>33565813
I don't keep up with EN but my impression from these threads is it's 2 generations of Shion/Ayames with how much they take breaks or stream to the minimum quota each week
>>33565336I find mumei cute but I'm also into her brand of white girl retardation. It's probably not for everyone.
>>33565685Did those shipper posted their opinion on her comment section?Did any of those filthy shippers anti her because their ships got ignored?You can't really control what people do on the internet anon.
>>33565868>>33562681
>>33565681Ewww>>33565719>Pekora deserves to be trashed too.Cringe
>>33565158>Ame 3 gold...EN FinishedWhich EN?
>>33565467Anything looks like unity when you have Ame calling her genmate fucking bitch and Kiara talking about how lonely she feels once every couple days
>>33565336>Mori is cute she the en with biggest gap moe.>Kiara is cute and girly Provides the best gfe for holo en and loves her fan.>Amelia is cute and sweet like a childhood friend that teases.>Kronii is cute the fact that when she nervous she laugh is cute. The fact she kind of nerdish is hella cute.>Mumei is really cute has nice singing voice that relaxes you. Her autism add onto her cuteness at the end of the day.>Bae is cute her zoomer personality is like having a younger girl that into you that cute.>Sana was the cute seeing her geek out about art and having fun play kirby game. Was peak cutness.All of holo en are cute girls in their own way.
>>33565306>Matsuri and Fubuki collabed with stars multiple times yet Haachama is still doing her own thing.That's mostly because>I would prefer Lamy not to collab with the Starsis a perfectly acceptable statement among the JP crowd, carrying no different morality from >I would prefer Fubuki to collab more with the StarsThat's the point you (guys) may be missing. I am definitely not saying "collabing with boys" carries any positive or negative morality, and I am not saying it carries any numerical consequence one way or another.What I am saying is that>when a neutral statement of opinion cannot be done without getting a negative morality based trait assigned, not soon after anyone with that opinion will be excommunicated and doing the opposite of that opinion will be a moral imperative
>>33565772Yeah, good luck with taht.Tower only interested in diamond rank or above.
>>33565941>>33562681
>>33565796>>33565757I have this one too.
>>33564641Freedom of speech goes both ways, currently there's a chilling effect on CGDCT and Gachikoi fans from raising their voice due to majority backlash against them.They are an oppressed minority and their voices are being suppressed.
why does "3D live" trigger nijifans in this board so much like, what the fuck man its part of the industry
>>33562681>>33565920
>>33566008Doesn't count
>>33566004>>33562681
>>33564882Gura and Ina are the only one that you can be sure of.If another year passes with Fauna and Irys still being around, you can add them too.
>>33565442Chumniggers
Didn't some male NijiEN get into trouble because fujos were shipping him with some other guy but a nijiEN female got too close to him?
>>33562681>>33566038
>>33565796>>33566008It's not quite Gabe level, but I appreciate it all the same, thank you anon-tachi.
>>33562051>FGO ARC INCOMINGYou're like 2 months late, bro.
>>33565955All EN
>>33566034We're talking about vtubers, not the fucking Holocaust lmao
>>33566078>>33562681
>>33564958>The problem is, it never stays on this fucking board.All you need is one baitposting tourist wanting to start shit.
Alright which one of you is running a Peko number shill campaign in /hlgg/?
>>33565969Agreed, they are all cute.Except for Kiara. She won't be cute until she stops using the chicken voice.
>>33565567she's like the quintessential girl next door anon, it's really cute
>>33562681>>33566130
>>33565633Sana will be less remembered than fucking Aloe in a year.
>>33566190Go back
>>33566161>>33562681
>>33566129yea, vox, multiple death threats from his fans to reimu. Twiitter forced him to "denounce" those fans. He regretted and apologized to those crazy fans instead a day later.
>>33565772repeatedly doing this is just going to cause him to blend in to the barrage of people responding to everyone.
>>33562051Not with the retarded perm
>>33565891NTA but is this about Kuzuha? Outside of the 1st stream, he in turn had better number playing Cult of the Lamb subsequently than Pekora though. She relies on buff game just as much so not exactly a "beat" or something.
>>33562681>>33566198
>>33565975>I would prefer Fubuki to not collab with the Starswill get the same negative reaction as>I would prefer Lamy to collab with the Starsbecause they go against what the talents are currently doing/want
>>33565975I'm saying that it wouldn't likely to happen, because the only gen 1 that hasn't collabed with males are haachama and Mel, so you could say the "male collab" faction is the majority there.Yet Mel and Haachama hasn't shown any inclination to follow FBK, Matsuri, and Aki's step.
>>33565633Fauna has brought her up quite a bit about how she still messages her and feels she might even be a bit too clingy. Other than that I can't recall any other EN's.
>>33566227>>33562681
>>33566008>>33566133>It's not quite Gabe leveIt is somewhat worse than Gabe. Gabe is a known retard that even he himself wouldn't deny.Oboretai considers himself (and is considered by many), for being a clipper, to be a voice of the community, a powerful figure doing more for the holo boys than even the company itself.What you see at >>33566008 is him literally badging the new debut, in a very similar way Gabe does, except with the weight the community gives to "clippers"
>>33562681>>33566278Pekomoon cringe kino on the 21st, don't forget.https://youtu.be/n7BBlOeDOfE
>>33566325>>33562681
Look at that Watame posting on reddit and not pinning it unlike what Kiara didhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/xihy2o/september_20_1900jst_overlord_iv_openinghollow/
>>33562681>>33566400
>>33566400thanks anon>>33566404>>33562681
>>33566346I mean, he has the freedom of speech to say whatever he wants on his youtube channel, but Gabe arguably was veering into criminal activity.
>>33566400Pekora is straight
>>33565923EN's deal is basically that a lot of them have sparse schedules, and when they stream they're stressed out, hostile and grumpy and have trouble even arranging 2 person collabs. And then Tempus debuted and suddenly the girls are having a ton of fun ignoring their existing viewerbase and effortlessly collabing with the boys. If holoEN had been delivering plenty of solo and in-branch collabs and maintained a good mood / relationship with the viewers, very few people would've become butthurt by the cross branch stuff.
>>33565633>beloved HoloJP member>RushiaFucking kek. You could see everybodies mood immediately got better after she was gone. She was hated, not beloved.
>>33566488>>33562681
>>33562681>>33566461
>>33566400What are they gonna do tho
>>33566561>>33562681
>>33566133Oh also just found this guy on reddit, swell dude.
2022年ホロライブソロゲーム配信最大同接TOP10 22/06/05 98,961 さくらみこ WWE2K2222/09/19 96,489 兎田ぺこら FGO(ガチャ含む)22/05/23 87,824 さくらみこ WWE2K2222/05/13 76,778 さくらみこ WWE2K2222/06/08 71,446 さくらみこ WWE2K2222/06/19 67,332 兎田ぺこら グラブルガチャ22/05/09 63,689 さくらみこ WWE2K2222/02/08 62,603 湊あくあ APEXガチャ22/06/25 62,465 兎田ぺこら holo cure22/06/16 60,095 さくらみこ WWE2K22
>>33566552Pekora, Marine...
>>33565633Well, uh, Lamy has used her in Holocure a lot because she's easy to use, if that counts... But really that's pretty bad, you'd think she'd have left more of an impression on her genmates besides Fauna at least. A year isn't that short of a time.
>>33566552Sankisei still love her, Marine and Pekora said so.
>>33566133The fag is actually much worst than Gabe consider him being a clipper with more reach and Gabe is just one of her hundred Gachikoi. Still i haven't followed the drama much after her member stream so any pic of that? In the member stream time he seems self aware, did he really went full anti?
>>33565415They just dealt with the fallout, and now they have a lot of girls who don't do male collabs, so viewers can just pick one of them and be happy.They need a new gen of girls for EN with at least 2-3 who won't do male collabs, and hope disgruntled viewers will still check them out.
>>33566587sex with me>>33566627>>33562681
>>33566637>DownvotedSasuga Reddit.
>>33566587Either off Collab at the studio since they are staying for around one more week in Japan, or some cringe Collab like this one https://youtu.be/3ECEZoCuS-Y>>33562681>>33566571
>>33562066I like you cause you got that something that I need in my life so give it to me, cause you got that
>>33566698>>33562681
>>33562693>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY>168x: Hololive>84x: NijisanjiFucking double.
>>33566642>Dominated by PekoMiko>Most of them are Miko WWE
>>33566587They won't offcollab for sure, both peko and moona are too autistic to do that
>>33566768And 16 of those from Niji are from Salome lol.
>>33566756>>33562681
>>33562681>>33566726
>>33566813Who?
>>33566768Don’t look at the personal gold list
>>33566637Again, this is arguably fine. You can't really put muzzle on people's opinion moreso in public space afterall. It's the equivalent of screaming into the void.Anti is when you make it your life mission to let them know how much you hated them.
So, can we finally remove Gura's blue woman title now?
>>33566726That collab turned out so bad even Moona seemed to feel guilty about it midstream while Peko continued trying to get it to work
>>33566241That sounds like actual trouble, did NijiEN management even say anything. This Gabe fan of Kronii's must have done much worse shit to make Cover release a statement.
>>33566833Salami*
>>33566821>>33562681
>>33562681>>33566827
>>33566298>the only gen 1 that hasn't collabed with males are haachamaHaachama did, she organized a mixer with various vtubers, male and femaleIt was a kino clusterfuck because she didn't schedule them so it was "first one to call her on skype would get patched in" and her skype ringtone was MOTHERFUCKING LOUD AS FUCK!Among the new blood that called her was >Hirasaka Meiwhich got a very good incline out of it, but also assorted 2 views including one that got literally interrupted by his mom kek.
So what now?
>>33566833salmonella
Patra is nearly 20k. 4 times her own 3D live.
>>33566642I believe there was a WWE one with 100k+, you miss it or it didnt happen? Aqua also has an Apex with 120k+ too, or it only count strictly 1 person? Aqua did play with 2 other but they have their own POVs too.
>>33566882>>33562681
>>33562681>>33566888
>>33566865Their relationship should honestly just stay in MinecraftThey communicate better with MC chat
>>33566932those are collabs
>>33566895>Totsu Doesn't count.
>>33566932That one is counted as a collab anon.
>>33566937>>33562681
>>33566285>I would prefer Fubuki to not collab with the Stars>will get the same negative reaction as>I would prefer Lamy to collab with the Stars>because they go against what the talents are currently doing/wantIn Japan? Maybe both would be seen as negative as you say, maybe both would be seeing as neutral. It is a symmetrical situation.In the western forums? First statement would IMMEDIATELY get "morality checked", all niceties society grants to a person would be right out of the window and insulting the person saying it with any insult would be acceptable>incel>unicorn>parasocial retardSecond one would get a couple of people agreeing, a couple of people disagreeing with no morality attached to it.
>>33566932There’s a few WWE and Apex that was collab so it doesn’t count
How much will Moona, Iofi and Risu incline after their 3D showcases? They should all be 10k now, right?
>>33566898We look forward to JP7 and ID4.
>>33567004>>33562681
>>33566956Text chat works the best for them since it gives them time to parse each other's messages (and in Peko's case, get translations from nousagi). The english collab with Lui was good though, Moona being able to interpret exactly what Peko was trying to convey
>>33566920Her ASMR is inclining by the week, last one got what, 18k?
>>33566664Maybe, but as long as they don't bother said talent directly then it's fine.It's a little unfair, but that's the price of freedom of speech.
>>33566771>Most of them are Miko WWE when all of the other from the first army were outFTFY>>33562681>>33566947
>>33566430You can only have a maximum of 2 pinned threads at a time on Reddit. Watame is a nice girl, she didn't want to unpin either treerat or Kiara's thread
>>33567010The second would also get people talking about how idol culture prevents Lamy from collabing with the Stars.
>>33566797Bet your balls on it faggot.
>pekora dox popping up in my recsjesas how many tourist newfags looking her up did she attrract
>>33566871It was more because Kronii can't keep her mouth shut and just let things cool down.
>>33567085>>33562681
>A snake>A French>A Babylonian >A fucking LizPekora got a good team going on there
>>33566642it's either wwe or gachas......
I'm already bored by the Kronii drama. I need the next episode.We have a bunch of Hologirls streaming today including supposedly Gura. Will any of them address this and how?
>>33567117>Maybe, but as long as they don't bother said talent directly then it's fine.Oboretai LITERALLY @ Zeta, did you miss that part? It can't be any more direct than that.You asked for proof of a similar situation, you got shown a similar situation and now you are trying your hardest to differentiate them when they're exactly the same.
>>33567149Accurate representation of Pekora: a child.
>>33567199>>33562681
>>33567243They're trying to play neutral arbiter when it seems more and more clear they want to excuse the behavior of one troublemaker while (correctly) dunking on another.
>>33567152And Kiara caused Iofi's live thread to be unpinned just so she can promote her original on the front page.
>>33567182>Scared of Pekora doxThere’s almost nothing worth talking about. /hlg/ already spend years trying to see her face and they failed
>>33567235>I'm already bored by the Kronii drama. I need the next episode.There is not a lot going on in the EN side and Kronii drama couldn't have come in a worst time, right after Gura's marvellous video to steal part of its thunder
Top 30 Solo game delivery leaderboard, Peko just got in top 10 that used to be dominated by Salome!!!If you are EN fan, there is Gura in here!!1位 127,609 サロメ バイオ72位 114,132 サロメ Yakiniku Simulation3位 113,309 サロメ バイオ74位 108,297 サロメ バイオ75位 106,333 サロメ バイオ76位 102,921 サロメ バイオ77位 99,770 サロメ バイオ78位 97,905 サロメ バイオ79位 96,590 ぺこら FGO NEW!!!10位 96,584 サロメ GTAV—————————–11位 94,823 サロメ バイオ712位 94,246 サロメ バイオ713位 93,631 サロメ Euro Truck Simulator 214位 91,717 サロメ 空気読み。15位 88,268 サロメ バイオ716位 84,534 サロメ バイオ717位 81,030 サロメ 絶体絶命都市218位 78,230 サロメ バイオ719位 76,387 ぺこら ポケモンBD20位 74,800 クロヱ 深夜放送—————————–21位 70,073 ぺこら FF1022位 67,339 ぺこら グラブル23位 67,237 ぺこら プリコネR24位 65,142 ぺこら ジャンプキング25位 62,603 あくあ APEX26位 62,144 サロメ 絶体絶命都市227位 61,049 ぐ_ら RFA28位 59,035 ぐ_ら プラグ&プレイ29位 58,649 サロメ リズム天国30位 56,449 ぐ_ら ミューズダッシュ
>>33567010This, but it's not just forums, it's holoEN itself. They're actively deleting comments like the first one from Kronii's channel now.
>>33567010>western forumNow, do you consider this board as "forum"?
>>33567264>>33562681
>>33567186Not much of an anti if he hasn't sent out any death threats to Tempus or Kronii, he should probably get started on it soon to justify the drama.
>>33562681>>33567144
Patra ASMR 20k
>>33567339>>33562681
>>33567243I'm the one who posted that pic. Did he really @ Zeta of HoloID?
>>33562681>>33567376
>>33567322Ina's room review is today right? Should be hype if people didn't forget about it with all the Kronii stuff.
>>33567296I am trying to make this exact point but somehow it gets sidetracked. If saying "I like X" and "I don't like X" are assigned different moral values by the audience, "liking X" will become the only socially accepted thing and "doing X" will become mandatory under penalty of being assigned the same morality of those saying "I don't like X".It happens all the time, all around people every day.
>>33562681Another day/week/month another Holo gold
>>33567411>>33562681
>>33567359Since when is death threat the threshold of being an anti? That's as retarded as saying you can only commit murders with a gun.
>>33567324>Almost all of the top 10 is just サロメholy mogging
>>33567243>>33567296It's on his fucking channel anon, are you seriously saying that it has the same weight as Gabe outright saying he would anti on Kronii's fucking pre-chat?Also, i don't think @-ing someone on youtube works, so Zeta could very possibly missed that
>>33567504Debut Salome was something else anon
>>33567336Not in the same sense because you can't really assigned a morality based trait into an anonymous person.This place is one of the last places in the whole internet where you can say whatever you want, and be told a retard for it regardless of your opinion
>>33567489Of course, anon, if I beat you to death with my fists it is not a murder, it is a public humiliation.
>>33567474>>33562681
>>33562681>>33567457
>>33567550Not really, you still can get banned here
>>33567520isn't @ in youtube a tag for the engine?
>Ironmouse: i love vshojo>during the kronii drama
>>33567574>>33562681
>>33562681>>33567577My POV
>>33567463I wonder if some of the girls are starting to get annoyed by Kronii's inability to leave the drama shit alone.
>>33566552do you come from a timeline where people can't read?
>>33567489What else is he going to do as an anti? Has he at least started calling Kronii a whore?
>>33567550But you could still gauge the mood of the board and whatever run against mood of the board gets assigned negative value.
>>33567541Record is record, not many gonna know the name of that 3rd place, but everyone will know Usain Bolt.
>>33567633can't wait for the mori like
>>33567636>>33562681
>>33567585kek, what you mean is that your *IP* can get banned here but you yourself can't possibly be banned.There is no "you" here, there is no permanent existence for either your personality or your posts.You can just come back in the same thread (in boards without thread ids) and make another post and be judged exclusively by the quality of that last post, no matter how retarded the previous one was.
>>33567324Where are the WWE streams?
>>33567013Naisu moonaI hope her new indo song can compete with kobo's orisong
>>33567696>>33562681
>>33567712gone
>>33562681>>33567642
>>33567606Don't you have to be specific to @ someone on youtube?Like does @-ing Zeta works or you have to put her entire channel name in order for it to work?
>>33567712Its time has passed. Miko probably didn't plan on doing it long-term anyway.
>>33567645I can't imagine anyone loves it. It's probably causing a lot of internal stress behind the scenes too because now everyone has to figure out how they want to address the situation if it ever comes up on stream.
>>33567766>>33562681
>>33567667Not really watches the NFL, anon.
>>33567324All those tourist went to pekora and miko thanks to riku’s decision to wall off salome
>>33567664There is no "the board". "The board" is not one person.>and whatever run against mood of the board gets assigned negative value.See >>33567700, there is no (you) either.There is no telling if the anon making the talies and the anon doing the "there won't EN3" and the anon posting Pekora lewds and the anon seething about Koyori aren't the same anon.Actually, it is the oldest epistemological question in philosophy. For all that matters you cannot be sure the people in this thread is not just you and myself with 101 smart fridges pretending to be everybody else.You can't possibly assign any "morality based trait" on that
>>33567834>>33562681
>>33567774Why did she steal Moona's hair?
>>33567659Since he's a retard he's probably going to send her free money in the form of schizo SCs. And Kronii doesn't skip SCs so she'll probably read them.I can't wait to timeloop all over again during the next SC reading. Holy shit Kronii it's okay to not read drananigger superchats.
>>33562681>>33567777
Man that line up for the Steam Deck in TGS is massive, I can see JOPs loving this machine, wonder if the girls will buy when it's availablehttps://twitter.com/ondeckjp/status/1571374063217692673?s=46&t=pOVZBocZqmSUZHRl_gkFYg
>>33567835Case in point.
>>33567879
>>33567324Gura has plenty of Minecraft with over 70k+
>>33567821they probably more concerned for her and brainstorming how to go around this shit togheter, in those "trying times" people tend to group up, evenmoreso if the harm isn't this widespread as the other EN talent received almost no blowback
Is it just me or Calli unliked and removed the rt of gura's tweets
>>33567867But you could, it doesn't have to be individual, you could assign value to anything, idea or even collective consciousness.Anonimity don't really matter in grand scheme of thing.
>>33567821Don’t forget all the additional meetings
>>33567879>>33562681
>>33562681>>33567918
>>33567926what steam games can you even play in a handheld device? all the good steams games are the PC games
>>33563250First time eating Vox cum on stream
>>33562681>>33568020
>>33567809Not that. They are missing from his shitty list. Only the 100k+ one was a collab. All the others were solo gaming streams.
>>33567982Sounds based, let Reddit know about this.
>>33567982Big if true
>>33568028I don't know about you but I love it to bits and I have a gaming rig, doing a 2nd playthough of Elden ring, just got emulation on the thing and I've been playing BOTW on it as well, and some HoloCure on the side
>>33568063>>33562681
>>33567982I mean she has hardcore ignored anything from Gura to do with her 3d live, but did she ever like it in the first place?
>>33561989I don't feel hyped for EN3 anymore, bros
You know what's amazing? Enna is only 3-4 months away from being able to fight toe-to-toe against the shark. Enna's median is growing by something like 3k per month and the shark is reclining hard.
>>33568028Anon, it's literally a PC
>>33567821Things are far worse than that.Kronii opening this can of worms also set a bomb ticking for the rest of the branch.Remember pic related?What happens when Kronii gets almost zero visible backlash in terms of her CCV, VOD numbers, SCs, new memberships, member gifts or any other metrics that are used for Youtube success?What would that show to them?That they can collab with males and get away with it completely scot free, with zero net loss to anything they do.And all they have to do is ignore the screeching of a few schizos for a couple of days.What will happen to the currently abstaining chuubas when everyone else slowly start to warm up to the idea of male collabs? I mean, it's fresh content, it will bring a fresh audience, and you'll suffer no REAL backlash for it (your numbers will be fine).What happens when Gura realizes that she can collab with whoever she wants and suffer absolutely zero detrimental effects?
>>33568028You could play any games on Steam.Someone even played a DOTA on steam deck.Of course not every PC game translate to joystick but it works.
>>33562681>>33568021
>>33568120wrong thread
>>33555499When did shaka say he was a nousagi?
>>33567970I'm sure that's how ones like Mori or Bae are handling it, but I don't someone like Mumei is putting her neck out there for some dumb shit when she's already busy with school
>>33568117>>33562681
>>33566895Chama's still a good example. Her fans don't hold male collabs (or anything) against her because she clearly really is thankful to them for sticking with her through her bad times, stupid ideas, and half-done projects. Idol culture!EN "unicorns" wouldn't hate the girls collabing with the fags so much if the girls weren't so cunty about it. When Ame and Kronii stream with dudes, it's A STATEMENT: "Fuck you, loser nerds." But when Mumei joined the Stars it was just another of her goofy HaachamaEN streams.
>>33568133With her new model she'll be the top nijiEN talent in no time
>>33568137I just kinda don't want my Oshi to collab with anyone to begin with and just solo stream.
>>33568120It's the same with anything in life. When things you used to enjoy goes to shit, you drop it and just trash talk whenever someone brings it up thus the brand is forever tarnished in your eyes.
>>33568178>>33562681
>>33567982nah so only ever liked the first tweet gura made and its still there
>>33567982I don't think she ever retweeted Gura's live anon.
>>33568137>That they can collab with males and get away with it completely scot freeYou mean like what HoloJP did?
Please transfer Gura and IRyS to JP if they're going to disband EN
>>33564294You think every Nousagui has membership to all the other girls or that every 35p watching pekora is a member too? Of course there is a lot of tourists but the buff comes from viewers from other Holos camping streams to see if their oshi shows up
>>33568116>likeNot sure, but the rt for the live announcement sure is gone
>>33567995It matters a great deal, it is what allows people here (in this board and in the others) to spout the most abhorrent, politically incorrect (as considered by contemporary society) opinions with zero fear of any repercussion other than being called a retard that one time.Take reddit, for instance, as the example in the other direction. Some bloke was such a huge Mel fan he was always making posts about her which got to their Page 1 or whatever, to a point he got acknowledged by Mel herself and AChan IIRC.Then in some unrelated forum in that site, he said something about vaccines that carries a negative morality based trait and he didn't just get banned from there. He got banned from the whole site and the general opinion of his previously valuable posts changed from>what nice poststo>who would say those posts came from such a monsterLucky for him reddit is "pseudonymous" so, unlike twitter, it didn't followed him home if he practice the min amount of OPSec, unlike Twitter, for instance.Huge difference being able to speak in this site (Fed honeypot and whatnot) and reddit or any other site that demands authentication to post.
>>33568133>>33568186
>>33568228>>33562681
>>33568137>what will happen?nothing
I already count and it was:Q: First placeTreasure Box Second place.Hour of diference is a pain fo the neck but yeah Q still high.
>>33562681>>33568284
>>33568257neither of them are worthy of JP
>>33568270>Lucky for him reddit is "pseudonymous">Unlike twitterWhen your "value" hinged entirely on how tech savvy that person is, then maybe you're assigning it to the wrong variable.
>>33568028You can play any emulator on it and nearly every game available on any console as long as it can work on a Linux OShttps://twitter.com/OrdinaryGamers/status/1548792619387559937https://twitter.com/OrdinaryGamers/status/1550797417104244736>>33562681>>33568161
>>33568175He had a nousagi plush>>33164257
>>33568387>>33562681
>>33562681BRONZE>1) 31,878: Miko (Hololive) RUST Season 2 Finale [17]>2) 31,244: Kobo (Hololive) Valorant [15]>3) 43,980: Marine (Hololive) MariFure Offcollab Rhythm Tengoku [26]>4) 37,932: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden #10 [27]>5) 28,969: Kanata (Hololive) Uma Musume [17]>6) 41,504: Toya (Nijisanji) Konnichiwa [22]>7) 35,036: Subaru (Hololive) NamaSubaru [25]>8) 41,292: Miko (Hololive) RUST [24]>9) 24,931: Polka (Hololive) RUST [22]>10) 42,234: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Splatoon 3 [31]>11) 32,232: Gura (Hololive) Gura's Big Brain Games [26]>12) 27,525: Koyori (Hololive) RUST [21]>13) 31,288: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Splatoon 3 [24]>14) 24,492: Voltaction (Nijisanji) English Quiz [23]>15) 32,731: Miko (Hololive) Splatoon 3 Totsumachi [25]>16) 55,236: Subaru (Hololive) 4th Year Anniversary [22]>17) 38,995: Miko (Hololive) FF10 Finale [27]>18) 40,618: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX CR CUP [29]>19) 30,866: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Splatoon 3 [26]> PER COMPANY13x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER4x: Miko, Kuzuha3x: Subaru1x: Kobo, Marine, Kanata, Toya, Polka, Koyori, Voltaction, GuraDon't let all these podium/medal sweeps and tally posting distract you from the fact that BRONZE isn't locked in yet for Holols. It's not over yet, sisters!
>>33568137There’s one flaw in your argumentYou are assuming everyone want to collab with the dude for no real reason as if it’s something they must do
>>33568137This only really applies to people who wanted to collab with males in the first place. Kronii never showed any sign she was against male collabs, it was just Kronies coping by claiming she was lesbian. This is the same girl who talked in a space about how she gave her number to a random guy at an airport. Idk why this was unexpected.Also, no one is going to chase after the collab beggar audience unless they're planning to make that a key portion of their content. Collabs with each other also bring in new members but the girls can't even set up those regularly.
>>33568177i'm sure ame/ina/fauna are doing some guidance, kiara is just happy to maybe get some gachikoi from the whole ordeal and mumei way of helping is doing the collab where they will be autistically cute togheter, not everyone is suited for the same answer.Gura is sending stupid memes and cursed gifs on discord to lighten the mood.
>>33568395IRyS can speak Japanese and Gura can be forced to learn. I guess they can move Kiara over as well
>>33568442>>33562681
>>33568239> every HoloJP that regularly collabs with males are in the absolute bottom tier in terms of numbers> the first army and the biggest Holos in terms of numbers are ALL those who never collab with males in a non-professional capacityYes
>>33568180I agree with this for the most part. It happened on JP side too, although in a different form: Matsuri and spamming APEX.Her audience>we are not satisfied with these many APEX collabsHer attitude>I'll not only do EVEN MORE of those but will start doing it on other channels while cancelling scheduled streams on mineShe had a come to Jesus moment tho so it was all forgiven in the end
>>33568487they get shit numbers. they have no place in JP.
>>33568454KING BRONZE SWEEPI BELIEB
>>33568487No. Kiara and Bae get sent to HoloKR instead.
>>33568506>>33562681
>>33568270> not having multiple accounts with separated topics> posting politics on mainI would say he failed in opsec
>>33562681SILVER>1) 36,151: Rion (Nijisanji) 3D Stream>2) 31,563: Marine (Hololive) Touhou Project Koumakyou>3) 70,948: Botan (Hololive) New outfit>4) 76,937: Choco (Hololive) 4th Anniversary LIVE>5) 31,040: Marine (Hololive) Horror game*>6) 43,473: Pekora (Hololive) Plants vs. Zombies>7) 70,876: Hololive (Hololive) Hololive 5th Anniversary>8) 51,274: Pekora (Hololive) RUST>9) 34,980: Suisei (Hololive) HoloCure>10) 46,213: Pekora (Hololive) HoloCure>11) 32,344: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2P>12) 38,454: Miko (Hololive) RUST>13) 32,564: Amelia (Hololive) 2 Year Anniversary>14) 26,197: Toya (Nijisanji) Toya>15) 38,413: Gura (Hololive) UNARCHIVED KARAOKE + SHARK NEWS>16) 76,923: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) KZHCUP PUBG Day1>17) 52,809: Iofi (Hololive) 3D Showcase>18) 66,656: Risu (Hololive) 3D Showcase>19) 34,767: Miko (Hololive) RUST> PER COMPANY3x: Nijisanji16x: Hololive> PER STREAMER4x: Pekora2x: Marine, Miko1x: Rion, Botan, Choco, Hololive, Suisei, Amelia, Toya, Gura, Nijisanji, lofi, RisuSILVER locked in for Hololwill also post RUST tally and HoloCure tally at end of month
>>33562681>>33568429
>>33568510I think FBK literally has higher median than Shion, doesn't she?
>>33568570>>33562681
>>33568510>Towa>10k median
>>33568470>no one is going to chase after the collab beggar audience unless they're planning to make that a key portion of their content.* laughs in NijiEN *
>>33562681>>33568590
>>33568443That's pretty funny. Mine's still in the plastic in the box it shipped in.
>>33568180What? Retards here still claiming to this day that Mumei was forced to do Gartic Phone collab with Stars because Bae forced her.
>>33562681>>33568654
>>33568639>>33562681
>>3356864510k median in holo is barely enough to scrape mid tier nowadays huh
>>33568510Suisei? Fubuki? Towa?
>>33568587Man, Holo domination even for second place.
>>33567712>series based on leeching off other holomendoesn't count as solo sorry
welp, here come the moralfags
>>33568578>ever ever ever EVER EVER posting anything of value in a site that requires authenticationYou might think keeping separate accounts would shield you but this very thread matched containment breakers to their alt accounts and their real accounts based on vague clues and writing style patterns alone.
>greyname in Kiara's chat asking why she doesn't stream with malesShe just brought up the Yagoo collab, had the image ready and everything
>>33568652And that's how Ren killed his audience over time. Even in NijiEN it's a bad idea to rely on collabs. The top performers there are all people who have strong core fanbases, not just the Niji tourist box who will drop you after a few months like they did for Nina.
>>33568725>>33562681
>>33568718idk how people came to this conclusion in the first place
>>33568728It's still strong 2nd army tier.
>>33562681>>33568723
>>33568120You never were, nijinigger.
>>33568758This guy still relevant?
>>33568780My point is that it's not "no one", there is always someone dumb enough to try
>>33568429It fucking runs BOTW better than the switch after you have all the shaders
>>33568783>>33562681
>>33568766kek
>>33562681>>33568811
>>33568758Expected to be honest, half of this shit could have been avoided if Kronii shut the fuck up.
>>33568766Lol german autism.
>>33568849>>33562681
>>33568800is it? there are like 20 holos with above 10k median nowadays
>>33568758They whine so much harder than the unicorns ever did.
>>33568910>>33562681
>>33568758Wonder if any of these guys will talk about Pekora FGO or it will be kept to the JP side mostly.
kek, this was a funny way to promote the live
>>33568790It's because people keep using her as a shitpost to deflect from Kronii or bludgeon other Holos. It helps that Mumei seems to have memoryholed the collab completely so people are free to come up with their own narratives.
>>33568959>>33562681
>>33568762redditors are lazy and non-autistic anonsimple account separation goes a long way there
>>33568766normies seem to hate Kiara for some reason
the girls holding out against male collabs will get>homobeggars in chat>twitter crusaders in commentsis this increase in numbers worth the negativity they'll have to deal with?
>>33569002Does she still do weird Jaden Smith tweets like the old days?
>>33568969it will be kept on the JOP side thank fucking god for the language barrier
>>33568454It's not fair, Nijis clear out all the shitters for their bronze attempts while Holos have to scrap and scrounge JP primetime looking for bronze content. I say that the rule moving forward should be if you've won bronze 3 times in a month you're banned from another until the beginning of the next month
>>33568766Screenshot or timestamp?
>>33569022>>33562681
>>33569022what do you think of Koyori as Pekora's disciple?
>>33568766LMAO FUNNY SHIT. Might as well bring up that guy from Tales of Arise
>>33568758Drama tubers circling like sharks, and not even the cute kind.
>>33569053Not really.Risu still tweets weird stuff tho.
>>33568941One look at he catalog says otherwise. lol why can't these unicorns see how dumb and unhinged they look?
>>33569003can't wait for the next mumei male collab
>>33568766Wonder if Pekora even remembers that Yagoo Clubhouse collab. Pekomari offcollab will probably happen before that
>>33569143This entire shebang happened because some kronies were retarded enough to try and doxx Tempus.Fuck you Gabe.
>>33567744Feel like she fumble a bit with not releasing right away to capitalizing on the 3D hype
>>33569105i like her shes very hardworking and she deserves what she has right now>>33569102>>33562681
>>33567744I think so, I saw the song garnering hype on ID sphere due to it's composer.The song is also very earwormy.
>>33568137kek, mori and ame have been getting horrible views anon, just look at their regular content instead of collabs
>>33568819Fuck you
>>33569221based gang
>>33569307>>33562681
>>33569143>UnicornsSome of them are unicorns but a lot of them are just garden variety Holo antis
>>33569091
>>33569417>>33562681
>>33569406>inori hazukibased map painter enjoyer
>>33568766I don't like unicorns but collab beggars can sometimes be even worse
>>33569161Find yourself a chair, you might be waiting for a while.
>>33569052You just do the same thing the other side should: ignore them.It's just words on the internet, they can't hurt you. In this case it's not even from the people giving you money.
>>33569483>>33562681
>>33562681>>33568881
>>33568515Both of them are still above half or a third of HoloJP members respectively number-wise
>>33569535>>33562681
New schedule just dropped. Numbers?
>>33569493heh
>>33568766based, pekora has finally showed her the light
>>33562681>>33569541
>>33569587>>33562681
>>33569579holoJP must be in real trouble lmao
>>33569589Wrong thread sister
Miko Babyhttps://youtu.be/WY-zFQJWNMQ
>>33568969these leeches dont ever watch streams, only clips
>>33569484Member since day 1. I hate how that whore from phase connect got the moniker of being the Queen of /vst/ when she rarely plays one
>>33569640>>33562681
>>33569589>all that ValorantHoly shit, what is wrong with this faggot, do fujos actually enjoy Valorant or what?
>>33568515Discard all those HoloJP trash tier with less number than them and no notable achievements then as well? Are you a parasite not from this fandom and are just hating on Hololive then?
>>33569703>>33562681
>>33568969What's there to talk about? I meant, its number is amazing, but is there anything else? Is there anything meaningful or discussion-worthy about it? In the big picture, it's just another gaming stream, and not even first FGO stream ever from Hololive.
>>33562681>>33569625
>>33569709numbertrannies just follow the numbers, they dont ask questions
>>33569221and the statement was supposed to fix that?it really seems to have just made things 10x worse
>>33569750>>33562681
>>33562681>>33569765
>>33569655You are aware that you are talking about a 20k+ and a 8k+ medians, right?
>>33569800>>33562681
>>33569700She's just shilled hard here because her schizo mods literally run interference for her on the board.
When I saw Kronii RT'ing the Cover posts I thought she actually went all the way back to the posts made during Rushia's incident to support her decision
>>33569778Do you expect Cover to stay silent and let it happen? At least by releasing that statement they're setting up clear boundary and help lessen the risk to Tempus AND Kronii.
>>33568758Checked. Kneejerk reaction, couldnt even get his reference right. Probably just went through Kronii and holopro tweets
>>33569866>>33562681
>>33569221Serious home address tier dox or just the tame past life stuff everyone already knows for the girls?
>>33568800You'd have to get to 3rd-4th army before you get to girls who hover around 10k.
>>33562681>>33569809
So did the Rushia's yab killed GFE as Twitter promised?
https://youtu.be/GCP1ERiN0hcgaijin gold
>>33568969What are they going to said ? "Pekora play FGO for the first time! It got massive view! She did the gacha! Yay". She only play the tutorial too so not much to discuss content wise
>>33569933 (me)But glad yt comments are now calling out the collab begging. This is a good compromise.
>>33569924this isn't the first time people have tried to doxx talents so why not do what they've done in the past? making the announcement has just brought more attention to it and given the drama a boost
>>33569941Home address, SSN, etc.Real sensitive stuff.
>>33569879I used to shill her too, until she pulled a Kronii on us. I was also on the Moom hype train but you know how that ended. I just want a map painter holo chuuba
>>33570043Again, I don't know whether the dox rrat is true, but the timing is pretty close to be coincidental.This is not your usual curiosity doxx, they're clearly planning to do something nasty to Tempus.
>>33570040Post screenshot? I refuse to watch the video.
>MAX IMAGE LIMITgood job everyone thank you for your contributions o7
>>33568758Kek he's actually legitimately upset, that was funny
>>33570173again, even if it is true, this is not the first time talents have been doxxed
>>33570173I read that daph has real antis. So I guess that collab brought them over to tempus.
Feel like this drama shit gets more attention than Gura 3D Live, 0 CCV supreme?
>>33570269QRD i ain't giving him a view
>>33570344Cover breaking into the livestreamfail meta. Just need a front page post there now.
>>33570173These people need to get off the Internet and literally touch grass and evaluate why they'd do this. It's like people who commit violent acts in support of some cause only to discredit said cause.
>>33568800Dude there's like 15 Holos ahead of Towa and Foobs this month
>>33570287I don't remember any doxxing attempt in attempt that has real target and not just your usual selfie and some old twitter posts.>>33570331Nope, this is all on kronies.beside it's pretty dumb for daph antis to doxx Tempus instead of going at daph herself.
>>33569988Rushia's yab didn't even stop Micheal Feline from continuing GFE, so take your guess
>>33569954Hey, quick, tell me the main requirement to be classified as 2nd army?
>>33570492It doesn't stop her, but the number isn't as good as it was.
>>33569221I don't think this ever happened in our universe titor-kun.
>>33570549This was discussed here like 13 hours ago anon.
>>33570547That's more on being kicked out of Hololive and being forced to live on Twitch because VShojo locked her into a shitty deal. If she was still in Hololive her numbers wouldn't have changed much given how much fandead were already rallying around her.
>>33570549People are getting their wires crossed and confusing the 39daph antis with Kronii's fanbase>>33570617You're talking about literally one larper in /infinity/ who never even did anything
>>33569589Top 5 secured all week!>19th September Twitch top 518,361: Gosegu (Isegye Idol) 17,549: Jingburger (Isegye Idol) 14,338: Lilpa (Isegye Idol) 12,630: Shoto (Indie) 7,102: Shylily (Indie) In all seriousness, it's impressive how Shoto hasn't had a single stream peak under 10k since June 25th.60 streams in a row!https://twitchtracker.com/shxtou/streams
>>33570617by "discussed" you mean you trying to make everyone think they're in your universe?I think you messed up the jump somewhere.
>>33570547Not because of the mfmf msg but because she lost the box and had to do with whatever she got left in her personal fandom
>>3357066118k holy shit. Didn't realize Isegye was already that big.
There's nothing to Kronii without the parasocialness. I honestly can't believe this lazy bitched looked at her "content" and said "yep this is why people are here".
>>33570660Maybe, but you have to agree the timing on that statement is pretty suspicious.
all im gonna say is this.LOL at the EN fans that wanted their branch to be just like JP. never gonna happen and gura will probably get forced to collab with tempus because of this kronii bullshit. starsJP doesn't even collab as often with HoloJP as what's gonna happen at the EN branch. pray that your EN3 won't be shitters like EN1 (barring gura) and EN2
>>33570755I guess people like me who truly enjoy her content doesn't exist then, I must've been a figment of your imagination the entire time.
>>33570832ok ken-sama
>>33570436i mean you've had people try and dox gura and moris addresses among other things, kiara with her eggs, amegeddon, and mumei's schizos just to name a few off the top of my head
>>33570832Gura transferred to HoloJP after her 3D Live
>>33570009SHE'S MILKING IT BABY, GO GOOBERS GO
>>33570861What fucking content, nigger? Even women who's given up like Choco and Mel put out more interesting shit.When's the last time Kronii did anything unique? Anything that involved a tiny modicum of effort? I dunno, organize a collab, do a gimmick stream...anything?
>>33570832I counted 9 Stars and JP collabs this year and 6 8 with the Worm and Vesper collab of Tempus and HoloEN collabs.
word of wisdom from number queen herselfhttps://youtu.be/-9iU-ZfzR2Y
>>33570873 people just like to play where's wally, can't blame them.
Crunchyroll is doing interviews with Tempus now, including one with Yagoohttps://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2022/09/19/interview-vtuber-noir-vesper-on-how-vtubing-helps-his-social-anxiety
>>33570930Why are you getting defensive faggot? Can I just enjoy her streams as it is?Why are you trying to force your taste on me, fuck off already.
>>33570356He goes on a mega rant basically calling the people complaining everything from pathetic to motherfuckers, to go rub one out, to go outside and touch grass, to saying "based take" to people calling them out on Twitter, to giving shit to a guy who said Kronii made this decision knowing it would upset her specific unicorn fans calling it a load of bullshit and making a shit analogy to burger king and mcdonalds.tl;dr he basically acts like your average homobeggar and he's actually seethingI don't particularly care about the situation as a whole. I just found him being legitimately upset and seething about all this extremely funny.
>>33570930She did male kronii ASMR once which was a disaster.
>>33570930>mel>contentgood one
>>33570661Koreans getting huge numbers now. I remember Vshoujo used to be somewhat competitive. Now it looks like their 12k ceiling for normal streams isn't even gonna touch Isegye.
>>33570752Usually they're around 11-14k daily peaks, Twitch audience is more consistent than YT, because no tab ins issue and they don't have anything else to do but watch the streams they always watch.Anyway, higher numbers because today had the most 'event streams' they've had in a long time.Jing had a "fan date" with a new VRChat twintails model and Gosegu did a shock lie detector stream.btw, what a garbage coded site>image limit reachedbut you can't deselect files
>>33570945when you say 9 for starsJP you mean from January to September? also, it will be 9 for tempus because of the upcoming kronii/vesper collab, unless you counted that as well
>>33570436> any doxxing attempt in attempt that has real target and not just your usual selfie and some old twitter posts.Nah, those exist. You are just not in the right place to find them. For example: when Mori drag Gura to that party, people were trying to find out where it is by tracking Mori sister and guests Instagram post.
>>33571027I'm asking you to give me something that you think makes your worthless oshi stand out. Anything. Any effort she made. I think I can actually start naming examples for every girl BUT Kronii. It's at that level.
Its really simple, why can't fans understand their favorite content.Hololive = was really meant to be an Idol Group of VtubersGirls like Noel, Rushia, Fauna and others who lean on GFE are expected to NOT collab with Males. But girls like Fubuki, Ollie, Kobo who don't really promise on GFE should have the freedom to collab with males. (These 3 don't get backlash for it, except a few on numbers thread but that's because their ccv lowered)As a former kronie, my former Oshi didn't really lean on GFE. Though A bit into yuribait yes.I moved on to Mumei and Fauna now, since i got sick of her mood swings. As for Tempus, they too should've stayed away from HoloEN. They don't bait Male to male shipping so they give off Fun Idiots Friends Vibes which i liked until Mori and Ollie collabed with to them.
>>33571051God that stream was horrific, I lasted like 20 seconds. However many people sat through that are true dedicated fans, that kind of loyalty isn't easy to come by. I wouldn't have listened to that stream even if my oshi was doing it
>>33571051I mean, 4k for joke ASMR is not bad
>>33571074vshojo's getting bullied by korean vtubers and the guy that stole Luxiem's fanbase.
>>33571049This is the guy that got featured by Coco isn't it?I can imagine his end goal is a holo collab of some kind.
>>33570832When has Hololive management ever been successful in forcing a talent to collab with another against their wills? They can't even force some members to acknowledge homos' existence
>>33571049Thanks for your sacrifice
>>33571109Yes and I already included their collab along with this sunday Worms collab
>800k+ views
>>33571165He’s the guy that did all the Hololive reaction videos
>>33571171if you haven't been paying attention EN management is fucked
>>33571062>he doesn't know
>>33570647Check ironmouse's tweet of "i love vhojo". Hololive lives rent free to vhojocucks
>>33571146are people really this dumb and new?Or just pushing the "they're successful because they're idols" agenda just to shit up the catalog with more unicorn bait?
>>33571123Good on you I guess, maybe if you focus on that you don't have to be this defensive about people liking something that you don't .
>>33571146In short.Tempus should've avoided collabs with females (and never collab with GFEs) for atleast 2 more months to gather loyal fans.Let Kronii collab with who she want but i don't like her dragging along whole HoloEN with that mindset.
>>33571121That image got posted here, didn't it? Someone even crosslinked all the lamps and windows and stuff.I'm just surprised nothing happened given they found the exact house. Guess there aren't that many schizos looking inside generals who know how to use the archives.
>>33571225Sugoi Peko. Anyone who can be bothered to check if it's trending in JP?
>>33571225Are you talking about Gura's 3D Live?
>>33571146Noel's a glorified slut-tuber. Fauna isn't GFE either, her ASMR is very technical not "ear licking" and shit like that. Rushia was the only true GFE streamer in the entire company. There's a few others like Lamy that are sort of hybrids. No one in EN is even remotely close.
>>33571297God this is such a woman post.
>>33571165His goal is to be a leech and make money from youtube. He doesn't give a shit how he does it. He used to do content for fighting games until holo stuff he did started doing well and he completely dropped that community
>>33571146>kobono one gives her backlash because on DAY 1 she said she wanted to collab with males. so did zeta and kaela(?). no one gives a shit what Ollie does because she's a shitter by most people's standards and fubuki is friend.
>>33565796>>33566430>>33566637Go back faggot
>>33571327812 vs 808k, weirdly enough I don't see any cumpedo doing the VOD race at the moment, I wonder why...
>>33570861Serious question, what do you enjoy about her streams? Hard mode: you can't mention her voice, model, or 'sarcasm'.
>>33571237Omega is a kindred that's why
>>33571389ID by default collab with males. It's not even really a question with them.
>>33571349I don't have to answer to you faggot, especially when you already made your mind about Kronii. Now kindly fuck off, git.
>>33571308>i don't like her dragging along whole HoloEN with that mindset.This for fuck's sake. Don't make it a fanbase wide drama. Don't get management to stand behind you with a defensive tweet.Good job putting all the other girls in a >how come you never mention tempus or collab with them. do you AGREE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO HARRASSED AND ATTACKED KRONII?Which might unironically drag a few of the women into this shitfest because muh solidarity.Dumb fucking menhera bitch actually needed to make this a HoloEN thing. Nay, a holopro thing. If I was a homo I'd bury my head in the sand after this, but I bet they don't give a fuck about the damage they're doing. Hell magni went on a sappy rant about how he now feels he's part of hololive. What a fucking joke.
>>33571291Its simple, you can't force the mindset of others.Like i said, only GFE Holos are the ones who deserve backlash if they collab with males.And also those who force genmates to collab with males.I personally enjoyed watching Tempus as well until they were forced to collab with ID and EN
what's the record for mogu spam
>>33571237EN management has never forced collabs and their recent statement even points out all of them are responsible for their own content. In fact if I was a schizo I'd use this as proof that management is throwing Kronii under the bus by making her take full responsibility.No idea where people are getting the idea that Kronii was forced to collab with Tempus. Is it coping Kronies? She made her own decision.
>>33571415Must be a special kind of stupid to even think about doing that in the first place, incomparable contents. If it is those MC Summer or Rust then it makes sense, or compared Gura's to that Peko bday one months ago instead.
>>33571415It's going to end up at 1m-2m, which is great.
>>33571415I mean, Pekora won it. It's how Gacha usually goes. Does Gura have to win every fight there? Wait why the fuck am I responding to a Gura vs Pekora timeloop goddamnit
>>33571418Why the arbitrary limitation?
>>33570009>New frameWhy?
>>33571478Hahah you ARE a woman. Jesas.Or maybe you just think you are.
>>33571555Why not, what's with new frame?
>>33571492more than 200,000
>>33571484>deserve backlashThank god we have you as the arbiter on what deserve backlash and not.
>>33571492Gura 3d live has the single-thread record, 244.4k I think